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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict was Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with you.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to unpack on the show. That

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Speaker 2: includes who is lying to US, Russia or the President

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Speaker 2: of the United States of America on the nord Stream

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Speaker 2: pipeline and who blew it up? Also the FBI Director

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Speaker 2: Ray could be held in contempt of Congress, what does

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Speaker 2: that mean? And the Southern Poverty Law Center coming after

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Speaker 2: good conservative Christian American jet Again. Senator, let's first start

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Speaker 2: with this shocking news on the Nordstream pipeline. This seems

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Speaker 2: to be a major change in the White House's position

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Speaker 2: despite we now know they were briefed back in June

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two that apparently, and this is coming

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Speaker 2: from the CIA, that Ukraine was planning and even practicing

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Speaker 2: to blow up the nord Stream pipeline. Biden, if you

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Speaker 2: fast forward from June to September of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: he came out and said this, after that pipeline was exploded. Quote,

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Speaker 2: let me say this, it was a deliberate act of sabotage,

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Speaker 2: and now the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies.

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Speaker 2: The President went on to say we'll work with our

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Speaker 2: allies to get to the bottom of exactly what happened

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Speaker 2: with precisely what happened. At my direction, I've already begun

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Speaker 2: to help our allies enhance the protection of this critical infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: And then, Senator, he said this quote, and at the

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Speaker 2: appropriate moment, when things calm down, we're going to send

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Speaker 2: the divers down to find out exactly what happened. We

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Speaker 2: don't know what yet, we don't know exactly. But just

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Speaker 2: don't listen to what Putin's saying, because he's saying, we

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Speaker 2: know it's not true. Now I think he was trying

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Speaker 2: to say because what he was saying, we know is

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Speaker 2: not true. Senator, you hear this now. And if you

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Speaker 2: look at the headline coming from the liberal Washington Post,

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Speaker 2: Biden blamed Russia for the nord Stream pipeline attack, despite

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Speaker 2: the CIA being briefed earlier on a uk Ukrainian plot

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Speaker 2: to do exactly that.

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Speaker 1: Blow it up.

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Speaker 3: Your reaction, Well, today's story in the Washington Post is

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Speaker 3: a big deal. And let's step back for a minute.

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Speaker 3: On this podcast, we've walked through at great length what

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Speaker 3: caused the war in Ukraine. There are many things that

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Speaker 3: are frustrating about this war, but the most fundamental is

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Speaker 3: that it was utterly preventable. This war did not have

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Speaker 3: to happen, and it was caused by Biden's weakness and

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Speaker 3: his complete capitulation to Russia. And to retread a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but this is important to understand why this story in

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Speaker 3: the post is significant. Putin has long wanted to invade Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: He wants to reassemble the old Soviet Union. He longs

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Speaker 3: for the days of what he perceives as Soviet greatness.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to reassemble the old Soviet Union, Ukraine

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Speaker 3: is the most important piece of it. And Putin previously

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Speaker 3: invaded Ukraine. In twenty fourteen, he invaded Ukraine, invaded Crimea,

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Speaker 3: which is the southern portion of Ukraine, but he stopped

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Speaker 3: because Russia's primary source of revenue is selling oil and

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Speaker 3: natural gas, and the natural gas pipelines run right through

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Speaker 3: the middle of Ukraine, and if he invaded the whole country,

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Speaker 3: he risked damaging or destroying those pipelines. So the next year,

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Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, he launched the nord Stream two pipeline.

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Speaker 3: Nordstream two is an under sea pipeline underneath the Baltic

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Speaker 3: Sea that runs directly from Russia to Germany. The entire

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Speaker 3: purpose of it was to circumvent Ukraine so that when

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Speaker 3: the pipeline became complete and active, Russia could invade Ukraine

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Speaker 3: and not worry about the pipelines because it could get

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Speaker 3: its natural gas to market. As you know, in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: I authored sanctions legislation that shut the nord Stream two

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Speaker 3: pipeline down. Putin halted construction of the pipeline literally the

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Speaker 3: day Donald Trump signed my sanctions legislation. At the law

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Speaker 3: For over a year, from December twenty nineteen to January

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Speaker 3: and nothing happened because the sanctions legislation that I authored

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Speaker 3: and Trump signed had stopped it. Joe Biden became president

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Speaker 3: on January twentieth, twenty twenty one. Four days later, January

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Speaker 3: twenty fourth, Putin resumed deep sea construction of Nordstream two

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Speaker 3: because Biden had foreshadowed incredible weakness that he was going

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Speaker 3: to give into Russia. That foreshadowing proved accurate. Several months later,

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Speaker 3: Biden formally waives sanctions on Nordstream two, gave putin a

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Speaker 3: multi billion dollar gift. Fast forward to January of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two. I forced a vote on the Senate floor

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Speaker 3: to reimpose sanctions on Nordstream two. Every Democrat had voted

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Speaker 3: with me twice to impose those sanctions. On the day

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Speaker 3: in favor of Putin, and forty four Democrats flipped their votes.

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Speaker 3: They had voted with me twice, but at Biden's behest,

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Speaker 3: they put partisan politics above us, national security, above standing

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Speaker 3: with our allies. Now, when that vote was pending, President

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Speaker 3: Zelenski of Ukraine publicly begged the Senate pass cruises sanctions legislation.

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Speaker 3: It's the only way to stop Russia from invading Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: The government of Poland put out a formal statement said

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Speaker 3: pass cruises sanctions legislation. Without it, Russia will invade Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats flipped, the legislation failed, and just a few

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Speaker 3: weeks later, Russia invaded Ukraine. Fast forward, We've now had

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Speaker 3: the biggest land war in Europe since World War II,

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Speaker 3: waging for over a year. Biden was so weak to Russia.

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Speaker 3: He capitulated to Russia. He allowed Putin to complete Nordstream two.

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Speaker 3: And the result was exactly what Zelenski predicted, exactly what

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Speaker 3: Poland predicted, exactly what I predicted on the Senate floor.

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Speaker 3: Russia invaded Ukraine. Now several months ago, as we know,

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Speaker 3: the nord Stream two pipeline was blown up. That was

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Speaker 3: Putin to complete, and when it exploded with undersea munitions,

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Speaker 3: the Biden White House had a spin, and their foreign

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Speaker 3: policy talkers had a spin. They said, Russia blew it up. Now,

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Speaker 3: I got to admit, Ben I always found that a

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Speaker 3: weird talking point. Sure, look, Putin's number one priority was

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Speaker 3: to build the damn pipeline in order to enable him

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Speaker 3: to invade Ukraine. Why would Putin blow up his own pipeline,

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Speaker 3: which is what gave him the ability to engage in

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Speaker 3: the war to re establish and recreate the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 3: I always found that crap. So the alternative hypothesis was

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Speaker 3: that the United States blew it up. Seymour Hirsch, who

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Speaker 3: is a journalist who has done some good work, but

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Speaker 3: he engages in a lot of fantastical work that has

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Speaker 3: very questionable moorings to reality. He wrote a long article

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Speaker 3: arguing in the United States blew it up. I have

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Speaker 3: to admit I read Hirsch's article and I was pretty

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Speaker 3: skeptical of it. And I was skeptical of it mostly

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Speaker 3: because the Biden administration lacks the spinal fortitude to do it.

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Speaker 3: It may well be in the United States' interest to

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Speaker 3: Biden and had the guts to give that order. So

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration was saying Russia did it. That always

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Speaker 3: struck me as boloney. Other people were saying, maybe the

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Speaker 3: United States did it. That actually struck me as bolooney

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Speaker 3: as well. I just don't believe Biden would be willing

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Speaker 3: a good analysis on foreign policy to ask who benefits.

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Speaker 3: The obvious player that benefits is Ukraine. And so my

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Speaker 3: view on the day this happened is the obvious player

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Speaker 3: who have done this is Ukraine. If if and This

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Speaker 3: to do it. And what I didn't know and I

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Speaker 3: go nearly three hundred feet underwater and blow up that pipeline.

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Speaker 3: If they did, it's a no brainer that blowing up

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Speaker 3: Nordstream too benefits Ukraine and hurts Russia. This story in

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Speaker 3: the Washington Post yesterday asserts that the CIA, the Biden

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Speaker 3: CIA had credible intelligence that Ukraine blew up the pipeline.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: on lots and lots of topics. I've had zero classified

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Speaker 3: briefings with information on this question. So I don't have

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Speaker 3: any specialized information on who blew it up. Whether it

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Speaker 3: or whether it was someone else.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But I've read this Washington Post article, and I know

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Speaker 3: the incentives and who benefits, and it strikes me as

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Speaker 3: utterly plausible that Ukraine did this with the caveat that

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they had the technological sophistication to

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Speaker 3: have that capability, I absolutely believe Ukraine would do it

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Speaker 3: and would benefit from doing it. If that is true,

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Speaker 3: it means Joe Biden and the Biden White House lied

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Speaker 3: to America over and over again from the moment this happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you about the lies because

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Speaker 2: Biden administration that the Ukrainian military had planned a covert

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Speaker 2: He blamed Russia for this, And you talked about the

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, let me be clear. I don't know for

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Speaker 3: a fact that Biden was lying. What I do know

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Speaker 3: is their story never made sense. Why would Putin blow

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Speaker 3: being able to sell natural gas to Europe. Why would

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Speaker 3: Putin blow up the pipeline that enabled the invasion of Ukraine?

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Speaker 3: Why would Putin blow up the pipeline that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: had wrapped in gift wrap and given him as a giant,

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Speaker 3: multi billion dollar present, and that capitulation is what caused

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Speaker 3: the invasion of Ukraine. It never made sense to me,

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Speaker 3: of sophisticated psyops that he blows it and blows it

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Speaker 3: I just that that seems so attenuated to me. It

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Speaker 3: sounds like boloney.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think Putin's a very bad guy who does

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Speaker 2: was the vice president. James Comer, who saw that letter,

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Speaker 2: he still doesn't have a copy of it himself, but

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Speaker 2: was able to read it, had this to say on

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Speaker 2: Capitol Hill after he walked out of that meeting.

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Speaker 4: The claims made in the document are consistent with what

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Speaker 4: we found and disclosed to you all in Romania. It

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Speaker 4: suggests a pattern of bribery where payments would be made

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Speaker 4: through shell accounts and multiple banks. There's a term for that,

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Speaker 4: it's called money launder.

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Speaker 1: That again, is.

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Speaker 4: What the majority of the suspicious activity reports also said.

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Speaker 4: So we feel that this accusation is consistent with a

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Speaker 4: pattern that we're seeing frankly in other countries too.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty damning when you start connecting the Dots center.

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Speaker 2: You've got these documents, now you've got the suspicious activity reports,

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Speaker 2: you've got the Hunter Biden laptop that is connecting a

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Speaker 2: lot of these dots as well, and you've got now

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Speaker 2: whistleblowers coming forward that are sharing information Intel. This is

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Speaker 2: panning an extremely damning picture to the Biden crime family.

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Speaker 2: And that is also why the White House must be

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Speaker 2: feeling it because this is unprecedented. The White House has

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Speaker 2: actually come out and claimed that the Biden family business

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Speaker 2: quote represents no national security threat, and they even use

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Speaker 2: John Kirby, the National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications.

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Speaker 2: He denied that the Biden family business schemes represent a

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Speaker 2: national security threat, despite admitting he had not read the

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Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee's report on the matter.

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Speaker 1: Your reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the FBI is facing a crisis of

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Speaker 3: integrity and in the last podcast, and you're right, if

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Speaker 3: folks have not listened to Monday's podcast, they should because

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Speaker 3: we did a deep dive into this issue. The FBI

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Speaker 3: has a report that was written because a whistle blow

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Speaker 3: or an informant called in and said that they had

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Speaker 3: evidence that Joe Biden as Vice president was directly involved

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Speaker 3: in a bribery scheme, according to the leaks, in excess

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Speaker 3: of five million dollars involving a foreign country, and apparently

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Speaker 3: the foreign country is not China. The House of Representatives

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Speaker 3: investigating this wanted to see that report. Initially, they subpoened

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Speaker 3: that report, and the FBI said, go jump in a lake.

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Speaker 1: We won't give it to you.

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Speaker 3: And the House was prepared to hold Christopher Ray in contempt,

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Speaker 3: and Chris Ray blinked and said, Okay, we'll give you

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Speaker 3: the report, but James Comber and Jamie Raskin the chairman

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Speaker 3: and ranking member of the committee investigating can review it yourselves.

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Speaker 3: But you can't make it public, and so they brought

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Speaker 3: it over, they showed it to him.

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Speaker 2: Why is that normal, by the way, and why would

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Speaker 2: you do that? Explain that?

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Speaker 3: So, yes, and no, it's not bizarre. There are times

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Speaker 3: when there's classified materials or confidential materials where the administration

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Speaker 3: will say, we'll show this to you privately, and a

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Speaker 3: classified briefing, you're confidential briefing. And what we talked about

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Speaker 3: in Monday in the podcast is listen when you're dealing

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Speaker 3: with a confidential informant. There are lots of instances where

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Speaker 3: some informant provides some information, say on a drug cartel

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Speaker 3: or the mafia. You know, you get some hit man

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Speaker 3: who says, Okay, I'm going to tell you about the

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Speaker 3: don and what he did that. You don't want the

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Speaker 3: report from the informant made public because if it is

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Speaker 3: made public, the crime boss will have that guy killed.

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Speaker 3: And so it's not classified. Classified typically involves national security issues,

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Speaker 3: it involves foreign policy issues. In law enforcement, it's not classified,

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Speaker 3: but it is confidential. And law enforcement confidential is a serious,

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Speaker 3: serious status because you want to protect the integrity of

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Speaker 3: a law enforcement investigation and you want to protect the

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Speaker 3: identity of an informant. What you and I talked about

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Speaker 3: two days ago is the circumstances here are very different.

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Speaker 3: Number One, presumably this informant is advising not on a

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Speaker 3: mafia boss, not on El Chapo, not on some drug kingpin,

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Speaker 3: but on Joseph Robinette Biden Junior, then the Vice President

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Speaker 3: of the United States, now the President of the United States.

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Speaker 3: One would assume the law enforcement interests are markedly less

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Speaker 3: in that Biden is not going to have the guy whacked.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, lefty Twitter went insane this week

508
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Speaker 3: because we said in Monday's podcast, I said, it's reasonable

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Speaker 3: to assume the threat to the informant's life is less

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Speaker 3: given that he was informing on Joe Biden. And they said,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you know, Cruz is suggesting that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden is going to have someone murdered.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 1: No, Actually, what I.

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Speaker 3: Said is, presumably I would hope Joe Biden is not

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Speaker 3: going to have someone murdered. But if that's the case,

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Speaker 3: the FBI's interest in keeping this confidential is much less. Moreover,

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Speaker 3: the public interest, a serious, credible allegation of bribery and

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Speaker 3: corruption by the then vice president, now the president of

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Speaker 3: the United States. That's a big damn deal. And so

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Speaker 3: Comer saw the document and he left the briefing and said,

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Speaker 3: the American public has a right to know what's in

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Speaker 3: this document. We want to make it public. And Chris

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Speaker 3: Ray said, Nope, not going to do it. And so

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen tomorrow on Thursday, is the House

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Speaker 3: is going to vote to hold Chris Ray in contempt

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Speaker 3: of Congress. Now, let me give a couple of consequences

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Speaker 3: of this one.

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Speaker 1: This is a real.

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Speaker 3: Problem for the FBI. Look, the FBI uses subpoenas every day.

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Speaker 3: They use subpoena as all the time to get information

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Speaker 3: they need in law enforcement investigations. To have the director

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Speaker 3: held in contempt for failing to comply with a subpoena

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Speaker 3: is a big problem for all of the rest of

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Speaker 3: the FBI's ambit. But secondly, this is I believe a

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Speaker 3: crisis in integrity for the FBI, and so I want

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Speaker 3: to make a very direct appeal. I went this week

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Speaker 3: on Hannity and I made this appeal to Chris Ray.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna make it on this podcast as well.

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Speaker 3: I know Chris Ray, Well, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Don't do this to the FBI.

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Speaker 3: If Chris Ray stiff arms the House, if he forces

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Speaker 3: the House of Representatives to hold him in contempt, it

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Speaker 3: will do massive damage to the integrity of the FBI.

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Speaker 3: Chris Ray is a company man. He believes he's defending

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Speaker 3: the FBI by circling the wagons and not handing material over.

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Speaker 3: But your job is not to protect the hardcore left

548
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Speaker 3: wing partisans who burrowed into senior career positions at the FBI. Instead,

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Speaker 3: it's to protect the institution, to protect the rule of law,

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Speaker 3: to protect the Constitution. You are ultimately accountable to the

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Speaker 3: American people, and the American people have a right to

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Speaker 3: know if there's credible evidence that the president of the

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Speaker 3: United States was involved in bribery from a foreign nation.

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Speaker 3: It is difficult to imagine an issue of greater public importance.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm calling on Chris Ray. Do the right thing.

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Speaker 3: Hand this document over, don't dig in as a stubborn

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Speaker 3: institutional warrior and end up being held in contempt of Congress.

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Speaker 3: Now you might think, gosh, I'll be fine because the

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Speaker 3: Biden DOJ is so politicized, they'll never prosecute the contempt holding.

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Speaker 3: And that's true. The chances that Merrick Garland will prosecute

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Speaker 3: Chris Ray for contempt are zero point zero percent. But

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Speaker 3: the damage to the integrity of the FBI will be

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Speaker 3: massive if Chris Ray refuses to give in to public accountability.

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Speaker 3: So I'm calling on the director of the FBI, Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump appointed you. You're not a left wing partisan. Your

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Speaker 3: loyalty is not to the rabid partisans and the senior

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Speaker 3: positions of the FBI. Your loyalty should be to the

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Speaker 3: Constitution and the American people. And that means you should

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Speaker 3: hand this document over for the people to assess it

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Speaker 3: on the.

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Speaker 2: Merits when it comes to the investigation side of it.

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Speaker 2: And this is obviously a little bit separate from Ray,

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Speaker 2: but the House Oversight Committee's probe found that the Biden

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Speaker 2: family businesses over the course of several years received and

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Speaker 2: this is the most important part about the whistleblower and

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Speaker 2: also this new accusation that there was five million dollars

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Speaker 2: in a bribery scheme to then Vice President Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: for favors from America over the course of several years.

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Speaker 1: And this is what we at least know of now.

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Speaker 2: The Biden family businesses and their shell companies center received

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Speaker 2: at least ten million from business schemes in Romania and China.

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Speaker 2: You look at how much money we're finding here, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of people believe this other five million is

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Speaker 2: going to be coming in from Romania. This is a

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Speaker 2: massive amount of money coming in, and it's coming in

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Speaker 2: to business associates designing a web of companies over twenty

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Speaker 2: that we know of, many of which were formed during

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's vice presidency, and the committee said.

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Speaker 1: In total, of the Biden.

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Speaker 2: Family business associates and their companies received over ten million

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Speaker 2: from foreign national companies, the committee found. And that's just

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Speaker 2: ten million alone, outside of everything else.

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Speaker 3: Look, this is utterly bizarre. I do not know any

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Speaker 3: person in public life. I don't know any senator, I

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Speaker 3: don't know any House member. I don't know any member

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Speaker 3: of the executive branch whose family members received millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars from foreign nations and foreign companies. This is not typical,

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Speaker 3: This is not usual. It is utterly bizarre. We know

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Speaker 3: that Hunter Biden received over a million dollars a year

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Speaker 3: from Barisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company. We know that

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Speaker 3: up to a dozen Biden family members received millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars from Chinese communist countries. Now they're these allegations about

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Speaker 3: a mysterious third country. We don't know what that is.

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Speaker 3: Now that there's additional allegations about Romania, we don't know

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Speaker 3: the details of that. It is bizarre. Why are your

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Speaker 3: family members getting millions of bucks? Look foreign nations, Ben,

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Speaker 3: You're a really successful guy. You're a well respected radio host.

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Speaker 3: You've been you've been a talk radio host with a

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Speaker 3: national following since you were literally twelve years old, which

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Speaker 3: is a little bit bizarre.

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Speaker 1: A freakish prodigy. I'll take that compliment any day.

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Speaker 3: But okay, let me just ask you right now on

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Speaker 3: the record, under oath. Yeah, have the Chinese communists paid

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Speaker 3: you millions of dollars?

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Speaker 1: Never? Have they paid you a dollar?

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Speaker 3: No? Like, who the hell does that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Who the hell has all of these companies either?

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Speaker 3: And by the way, even worse, like your aunt Bertha

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Speaker 3: is getting millions of bucks. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: have an aunt birth I don't know if Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: has an aunt Bertha. But what the hell they're like

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Speaker 3: rounding up any Biden family member. You know, idiot cousin

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Speaker 3: Lenny who's like babbling to himself let's give him one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars. Like that reeks of corruption at a

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Speaker 3: level that is weird. And the only way the corporate

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00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: media can can whitewash this is to ignore it because

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Speaker 3: you can't explain, well, gosh, isn't everybody on the take

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Speaker 3: from communist China? No, no, they're not. This is a

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Speaker 3: big damn problem, and it's why Chris ray owes it

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Speaker 3: to the American people to be forthcoming. He doesn't work

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Speaker 3: for the bureaucrats, he doesn't work for Merrick Garland. He

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Speaker 3: works for the American people and he should behave like

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Speaker 3: it this money.

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Speaker 2: And again it was very clear that James Comer was

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Speaker 2: tipping his hat a little bit that this five million

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Speaker 2: bribery scheme has dealt something with probably Romania. The reporting

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Speaker 2: that we have, and this has again before this report,

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Speaker 2: was that from November twenty fifteen to May twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: there was a company called Bladen Enterprises. They paid Robinson

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Speaker 2: Walker LLC over three million. Now, this Blade and Enterprise

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00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: is a report to be this company that was used

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Speaker 2: to conduct business in Romania from a shady Romanian oligarch.

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Speaker 2: Robinson Walker is the Biden family business partner who collectively

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Speaker 2: sent the Biden family that one point three million to

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Speaker 2: all of those Biden family members from the Biden crime

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Speaker 2: family really exploded in the number of Biden's and the

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Speaker 2: Biden family accounts. Now we know received approximately one million,

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Speaker 2: thirty eight thousand from the Robinson Walker LLC. Account after

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Speaker 2: this Romanian company deposit money in his accounts. Now the

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Speaker 2: committee revealed all of this based upon wire transfers that

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Speaker 2: was part of all these suspicious activity reports. And in total,

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Speaker 2: sixteen of the seventeen payments from this bladant enterprises to

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Speaker 2: Robinson Walker LLC were made while Joe Biden was the

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Speaker 2: Vice President of the United States of America, knowing that

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Speaker 2: money was coming in when he was the vice president. Senator,

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Speaker 2: Is there going to be any accountability.

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Speaker 3: For that from the Biden Department of Justice. I don't

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Speaker 3: believe their will, But from the House of Representatives, I

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Speaker 3: hope and believe their will. I will commend James Comer,

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Speaker 3: I'll commend Jim Jordan. They had been I have been

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Speaker 3: trying to drive this from the Senate. I had been

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Speaker 3: pushing this from the Senate. The problem is the Senate

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Speaker 3: Democrats have the majority and Senate Democrats. There is not

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Speaker 3: a single Democrat, not one who gives a damn about

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Speaker 3: whether the President of the United States is directly implicated

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Speaker 3: in a bribery scheme involving foreign nations, because if they

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Speaker 3: gave a damn, they'd do something about it. Look, I'm

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Speaker 3: in hearings every week from the Judiciary Committee. One of

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Speaker 3: the Democrats could ask a witness about it. None of

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Speaker 3: them ever have. Dick Durban as chairman of the Judiciary Committee,

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Speaker 3: he could convene a hearing, he hasn't. Bob Benendez is

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Speaker 3: chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. I serve on that

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Speaker 3: as well. He could convene a hearing he hasn't. He

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Speaker 3: could ask a question, he hasn't. None of the Democrats

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Speaker 3: in the committee have asked questions. They don't care, And

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Speaker 3: unfortunately Senate Democrats are putting partisan politics. Go to Richard

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Speaker 3: Nixon and Watergate. You want to know why the Nixon

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Speaker 3: It was because Republicans had the testicular fortitude to stand

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Speaker 3: up and say this is corrupt, and will stand up

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Speaker 3: to our own party and say no. Is there even

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Speaker 3: one Democrat and by the way, they don't need to

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Speaker 3: call him out and say it's corrupt that they could

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Speaker 3: just start by saying, wow, these allegations are serious. We

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Speaker 3: need answers like that's not much. That's asking for a

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Speaker 3: tiny little mustard seed of integrity in the House. If

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Speaker 3: there's been a House Democrat who's done that, I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen it. Every hearing they have. The House Democrats all

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Speaker 3: act like the Praetorian Guard, or actually more like the

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Speaker 3: sort of legally blonde cheerleaders with mini skirts and pom

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Speaker 3: poms surrounding Joe Biden in the White House. But none

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Speaker 3: of them that I've seen, has a shred of integrity

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Speaker 3: to say, gosh, that would be a problem. If the

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Speaker 3: President of the United States on the is on the

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Speaker 3: take from a foreign nation, one of them should do so.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, when was the last time CNN

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Speaker 3: asked about this? MSNBC asked about this, ABC asked about this.

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Speaker 3: I will say CBS, to their credit, has covered this

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Speaker 3: a little bit, so it's almost the only outlier from

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Speaker 3: the corporate media who's dared to cover it. But where's

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Speaker 3: the where's the sixty minute special? Where's the uh? You

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Speaker 3: remember Ted Koppa, Where's Nightline? Yeah, corruption in the White House.

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Speaker 3: The corporate media does not care. Where are Woodward in Bernstein?

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Speaker 3: There are no Woodward in Bernstein's. Apparently reporters don't exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: Great point.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you quickly about something else, and

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Speaker 2: that deals with the Southern Poverty Law Center has now

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Speaker 1: Now the clue clicks Klan.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, Senator, the Southern Poverty Law Centers added parental rights groups,

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Speaker 2: including a group that I've had on my show Moms

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Speaker 2: for Liberty several others to its hate map, which plots

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Speaker 2: conservative groups a lot side chapters of the Klux Klan.

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Speaker 1: Your reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Southern Property Law Center, unfortunately, is a profoundly dishonest,

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Speaker 3: rapidly partisan left wing organization. It has a business model

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Speaker 3: them big checks in order to try to tar anyone

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Speaker 3: right of center and to call them hate groups. Among

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Speaker 3: other groups, they've called the Alliance Defending Freedom, which is

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Speaker 3: one of the most important organizations nationally for defending religious liberty,

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Speaker 3: for litigating and winning national Supreme Court victories in front

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Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court. So you literally have this organization

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Speaker 3: of public interest lawyers who are winning religious liberty victories

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Speaker 3: before the Supreme Court, that the Southern Poverty Law Center

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Speaker 3: calls a hate group like the Nazis of the kak.

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Speaker 3: They also call the Family Research Center, which is a

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Speaker 3: fantastic family research council with a fantastic organization that that

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Speaker 3: is is pro life, is pro traditional values, that fights

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Speaker 3: for family values across this country. They labeled them as

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Speaker 3: a hate group, and in fact, the Southern Poverty Law

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Speaker 3: Center's direction. Designation of the FRC as a hate group

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Speaker 3: led one radical, deranged, angry leftist to show up with

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Speaker 3: a gun trying to murder people at the FRC, and

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Speaker 3: thankfully there was a security guard who heroically stopped this crazed,

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Speaker 3: attempted murderer from carrying out the hate that was inspired

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Speaker 3: by the SPLC. SPLC is so radical. They had a

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Speaker 3: lawyer just recently that worked for them who was arrested

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Speaker 3: for being an Antifa terrorist in Atlanta and participating in

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Speaker 3: terrorist riots against law enforcement. Mind USPLC said when their

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Speaker 3: own employee was nominated to be was indicted as being

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Speaker 3: an Antifa terrorist, said, we stand by our employee. That's

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Speaker 3: who they are. By the way, their director of litigation,

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Speaker 3: a radical left winger Joe Biden, is dominated to be

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Speaker 3: a Federal Court of Appeals judge, and the Democrats happily

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Speaker 3: stood with her. Well, now the Southern Poverty Law Center

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Speaker 3: is going on offense, and they've decided to target moms

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Speaker 3: for Liberty. Let me say moms for liberty. They are

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Speaker 3: phenomenal women. They are moms who are standing up for

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Speaker 3: their kids. And you want to know the power of

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Speaker 3: moms for liberty. Let me tell you someone who would

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Speaker 3: not have the first name in his title, and that

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Speaker 3: would be Governor Glen Youngkin. Without moms for liberty, Governor

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Speaker 3: Glen Youngkin would be Glen Youngkin. There'd be no governor.

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Speaker 3: We'd have Governor Terry mccauliffe. Because Virginia, which Biden won

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Speaker 3: by nearly ten points, Virginia flipped red and white of

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Speaker 3: Virginia flip read it flipped red because moms stood up

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Speaker 3: and they were ticked off at the left wing takeover

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Speaker 3: their schools. They were ticked off at the woke ideology.

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Speaker 3: They were ticked off at Loud County, at the school

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Speaker 3: district covering up for a sexual predator, a boy wearing

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Speaker 3: a skirt the girl's restroom assaulted and raped a girl.

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Speaker 3: They were ticked off at the critical race theory being

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Speaker 3: taught to their kids. And Moms for Liberty energized moms

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Speaker 3: in Virginia across the country. They also energize moms who

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Speaker 3: were mad at the school shutdowns and said, look, our

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Speaker 3: kids deserve schooling. These radical ideologues are shutting down schools

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Speaker 3: and hurting our children. And these moms engaged, They spoke

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Speaker 3: out they're powerful. They flipped Virginia from blue to red

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Speaker 3: to the shock of the left wing establishment. What as

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Speaker 3: the Southern Property Law Center said, moms they're defending their

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Speaker 3: kids are a hate group. I'm gonna say right now,

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Speaker 3: the SPLC is a radical left wing hate group. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna use that term. They hate you, they hate me,

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Speaker 3: they hate America, they hate conservatives, they hate the Constitution,

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Speaker 3: they hate the Bill of Rights, they hate families, they

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Speaker 3: hate moms, they hate dads, they hate anyone who stands

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Speaker 3: up for this country. And I gotta say for the

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Speaker 3: SPLC to go after moms for liberty is disgusting.

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