1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. It is Mental Health. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Awareness Month, as it is what we do each and 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: every May May fifth, to be exact, Silence the Shame Day, 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: and we have a very special guest, Shanty D. How 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: are you are you feeling? 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: Actually, so ten years ago I almost took my own life. Well, 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 4: it'll be ten years in September, so this is like 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: my year of rebirth, That's what I'm calling it. And 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm in such a good place in space, and I 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 4: have really accepted being like this mental health advocate and 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: doing this work and not being stressed about going back 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 4: in the music industry, even though I'm still proud of 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 4: my boys, Like okayst I just got it going to 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: be inducted into the Hall of Fame, and so it's. 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: Just it's good. I'm feeling really good. Thanks for asking. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: Before we get into Silence the Shame Day and Mental 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 5: Health Awareness Month, I do want to ask you what 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 5: does Outcast being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 5: of Fame mean to you? 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: You was there, from day one. 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: It means everything. They zero. Actually, yeah, plays Ball. 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: Was the first record I ever worked, and so shout 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 4: out to Andre Big, the late Rico A organized noise. 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: It's like the holy grail right of music. And so 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: they finally achieved that, and I couldn't be more proud 29 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: and just to have been there passing out like cassettes 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: doing freak neck and you know the Southern playlist that 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: could be. 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Documentary with documentary. Yeah, they were talking about you giving 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: out you have to go get back today. 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: It's crazy, Like whenever I see too Short, he was like, yo, 35 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: you gave me that cassette and was like, y'all check 36 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 4: out my new group Outcast. 37 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna be dope. And we laugh about it all 38 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: the time. 39 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 5: Did you know that Outcasts would become the global iconic 40 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: superstars that they became. 41 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you never know, right, but I had the 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: oh on my chest, right, the hell on my chest 43 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: LA face Outcasts, and I just was really committed and 44 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: dedicated because I knew that the A was gonna support them. 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: It was a different. 46 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Sound and like you know, in Atlanta, we grew up 47 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: supporting East Coast rap what's cosp but we didn't really 48 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: have our own even though we had people like Shaddy, 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: they hadn't really received national attention, right, and we will 50 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: always wear like Dodger's hats or Yankees hats. But finally 51 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 4: we could wear like the Falcons, you know, logo in 52 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 4: the year and the Braves gear because Big Boy and 53 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: Drey made that cool. 54 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: And they really brought like. 55 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: Atlanta to the world like Ush's doing now on his tour, right, 56 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: he bringing the aid to the world. But Outcasts set 57 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: that up initially and really transform hip hop absolutely. Now, 58 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: I know they transformed Southern hip hop, but look at 59 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: like a lot of the artists that are still influential, 60 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: they're still from the South. And so to have been 61 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 4: at the forefront of that and been right there with them, 62 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: like I can't explain it, like it kind of solidified 63 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: even just me in my journey and what I've been 64 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: able to contribute to the music cultures. 65 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 5: Is arguably the greatest hip hop group of all time 66 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 5: and one of the greatest group's period in music of 67 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 5: all time. 68 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: You know, So when you started the show, you were 69 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: talking about your rebirth right. You thought about committing suicide 70 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: ten years ago. Now with this day and age, What 71 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: do you tell somebody that's possibly thinking the same thing. 72 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's stressful. 73 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: You know they're looking at the price of everything going up, 74 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: it's hard to get a job, they're looking at politics, 75 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: and they might feel left out. They might feel like 76 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: there's no place for them. So what do you tell 77 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: that person, especially in this social media world where nobody 78 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: wants to be your friend and it's a very evil place, 79 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: what do you tell that person that individual? 80 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: First of all, it's like honor your feelings. If you're 81 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: not feeling good, you gotta acknowledge that right I coin 82 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: this new little acronym rapping through your problems. The R 83 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: is being able to recognize those unfamiliar feelings, the A 84 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: and RAP is acknowledging and accepting right that somebody, right, 85 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: I don't. 86 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Feel like myself. 87 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: And the P is being able to process through those 88 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: feelings with a licensed professional counselor or someone you know 89 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: that can actually help you. Even if you call your PCP, 90 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: your primary doctor, say I'm not feeling like myself. So 91 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: you gotta be able to recognize, accept and acknowledge those 92 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: feelings and understand that you got to protect your peace. 93 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: At all costs. 94 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: You got to be unapologetic right now, more so than ever, 95 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: because like you said, like we're getting hit in a 96 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: lot of different directions and people be like, oh, yeah, 97 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: we all in this together. 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: Not really, we might be in. 99 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: The same storm, but wean in the same boat, right, 100 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: and whether it's socioeconomic factors, lack of access to care, like, 101 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: it's not the same, and we can't pretend that it's 102 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: the same. And I know we have people that you 103 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: know want to help and do more, but you gotta 104 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: dig deep inside yourself because even when I was going 105 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: through my suicidal ideation, I had to dig into my 106 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: faith in my spirituality, and I had to also talk 107 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 4: to people and let people in. 108 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: So that's truly important. 109 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: And then I tell people, you gotta remove things that 110 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: aren't serving you anymore. 111 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: You can't just be a people pleaser, like let. 112 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: Go of the scrolling, the doom scrolling and all of 113 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: that and really focus and be present with yourself. And 114 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: sometimes therapy isn't for everyone, but doing like sound baths 115 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: or getting out walking, immersing yourself in nature, like all 116 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: of that really matters. And like for me now, if 117 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm not feeling good because still go through my moments, 118 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: I'll just get up and go outside and take a walk, 119 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: or I'll tell people like, hey, I need a minute, 120 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: and it's okay. That's your time, that's your mind, that's 121 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: your body, that's your spirit. So you gotta really take 122 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: ownership of your mental health and wellness, because every day, 123 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: y'all is something different. Like I'm like, am I in 124 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: a movie? Like did that get scripted into something I 125 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: didn't sign up for? Because it's really scary. And then 126 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: even seeing yesterday, I know you can't believe everything you 127 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: see on social media, but I try to go to reputable. 128 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: Outlets, right, like the breakfast Club. 129 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: But I saw on one of the other outlets that 130 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: the federal government is considering like canceling one billion dollars 131 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: of funding for mental health for students being able to 132 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: provide additional counselors and that sort of thing in school 133 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: systems across the nation. 134 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: And that's really scary. 135 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: And we know how mental health is affecting young kids 136 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: because of this little thing right here, right. And I 137 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: don't just only I don't only blame social media, but 138 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: it's a lot of pressure and these kids need the support. 139 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: So y'all, we gotta fight back and fight back in 140 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: terms of protecting your peace, get the help you need, 141 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: reaching out to organizations like Silence to Shame. There's a 142 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: super dope lady I met last week at they accelerate 143 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: her conference in Miami. Her name is Ashante, and she 144 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 4: does a lot of healing, and so she just talked 145 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: about the importance of like really immersing yourself in these 146 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: healing practices with everything that's going on right and so 147 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: I'm recommitting myself right to whatever I'm doing is giving 148 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: time for Shanti. If I got to set an appointment 149 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: at three o'clock during the day for Shanty to like 150 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: step away and take a moment and breathe or get 151 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: them aside to do something like you just gotta. 152 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: Do it, y'all. 153 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: What do you advise for people to find their happy place? Right? 154 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: So I realized, like, my biggest happy place is my family, right, 155 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: I can cut off. I enjoy watching my daughter's dance. 156 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: I enjoy watching my son play soccer, I enjoy talking 157 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: to the kids cooking. 158 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: So I found my. 159 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Happy place, right. How do you tell somebody to find 160 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: their happy place where? You know, how do you do that? 161 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Because it has to be a place where they just 162 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: let go and release. 163 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. But think about some of the most 164 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: joyful times. And I know every body's life wasn't the same. 165 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 4: To let me start with that. Some people did not 166 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: have a happy upbringing, and I'm sorry for that, right, 167 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: and if that was your truth and your journey, But 168 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: if you did have fun when you were growing up, 169 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: go back to when you were like eight years old, 170 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: like what. 171 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 6: Whatever that mean? 172 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: I mean, what do you and what did you used 173 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: to do to make you happy? 174 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 5: Playing outside? That's why I love grounding so much. I 175 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: tell the dots that all the time. Take your shoes 176 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 5: offespecially now, I just want to take your shoes off, 177 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: taket socks off, go walking around barefoot in the grass, 178 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: just run around the yard, your there, ride your bike, Like, 179 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: think about how joy as you felt as a kid 180 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 5: when you simply played outside. 181 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: I was over at my cousin's house the other day 182 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: and I started playing with the Rube's cue and I 183 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I forgot how much I love this 184 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: and it had me going for like an hour. But 185 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: just find things that used to bring you joy. 186 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Get your Bobbie Doll, Jess Herriet. 187 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm already happy and over, Joey, you gotta find 188 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 6: that inner child that is so important. Yeah, I'm glad 189 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 6: that you are actually like somebody that can speak who 190 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 6: has gone through the whole thoughts of suicide and everything 191 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: like that, because you had to be going through some 192 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 6: real things. It's this guy on social media who is 193 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 6: documenting like he's planning to take his own life, you know, 194 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 6: and he's documenting every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on 195 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 6: social media. And one of my people who fixed their 196 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 6: mess on that's what the mess they sent this person 197 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: to me. And so he's just every day he's leading up. 198 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: So he's going around like spending time, spending his last 199 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 6: moments with like with his friends and his loved ones 200 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: and stuff. 201 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: And then nobody stepped in enough. 202 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 6: He's not telling them, he's not telling everybody what he's doing. 203 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 6: But I'm like, how is how nobody's seeing Like because 204 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 6: he's online, he document says, he doesn't delete it, his 205 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 6: lives and stuff, he posts them, right, And so he's 206 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 6: going to dinner with his people just talking about life, 207 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 6: going around the world, talking to strangers about life and 208 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: things like that. And then just last week, like he 209 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: went on his date, you know, with a guy or whatever, 210 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 6: and then you know, like he had sex with the 211 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 6: guy and everything, and he got online to say how 212 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 6: great it was. So he's just doing things that like 213 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 6: he thinks it would bring him to that list right 214 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 6: right before he go and then like he was on 215 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 6: Live Happy just like a couple of days ago, and 216 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 6: I'm like, so, are you doing this for you know, 217 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 6: the clout and some dick or you just you know 218 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. 219 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Are you you know what I mean? 220 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 6: But it's well in that case real, but this is 221 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 6: like his he's like thirty days countdown and it's like 222 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 6: he got like nine days left. 223 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: I hope that someone is intervening, Yeah, because if it's 224 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: out there like that, then somebody in his family or 225 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 4: his friend circle should be intervening and having him called 226 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: nine to eight eight, which is the National Courts's life. 227 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: Yes, super important. 228 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: And that's the thing. 229 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm not being judgmental, but we I hope he knows 230 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: that his life is important and that help is available 231 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: if he really is truly hurting that bad, because all 232 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: he's doing is putting band aids over the situation and 233 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: what's going on, or he's happy moments could just be 234 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: band aids if he's really in crisis. 235 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 6: Put the phone down, though, Like, how are you documenting 236 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 6: something that is so that's leading to. 237 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Sound like help with me, you know it? So I 238 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: want to ask you this bout suicide. 239 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: Like sometimes I'm sure you're familiar with the mail robins 240 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 5: let them theory, right, which is basically, let people make 241 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: their own choices whatever they want to do. So sometimes 242 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 5: you hear adults complaining, you know, nothing is ever going 243 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 5: right for them. They all they're always telling you, you know, 244 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 5: about all the bad that's happening in their world. They 245 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 5: talk to you about wanting to commit suicide, and you 246 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 5: strangely start to understand where they where they're where they're 247 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: coming from. Oh you know, uh, and you realize encouraging 248 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: them to get help isn't working. So do you just 249 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 5: let those people make their own choices? 250 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: Like that's a that's a really great question. 251 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: It's a tough question at the same time, you know 252 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: the thing about it, the reason why with silence of shame, 253 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: we try to provide as many resources as possible. But 254 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: you can't make someone do something right that they don't 255 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: want to do. But you can try to be a 256 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: positive influence in their lives. And so I've talked to 257 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: people you know who have been contemplating, and I shared 258 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: my story. That's why I storytelling is so important and 259 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: people have to speak up and share their stories around it. 260 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: I don't think you just kind of like relinquish everything 261 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: and let it go, but you try to be there 262 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: for them and keep encouraging them as much as possible 263 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: and putting resources in front of them and showing them 264 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: how other people have survived, because you know, the last 265 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: thing you want to do is kind of wash your 266 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 4: hands of it, and then you know a week or 267 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: two later or something happened. 268 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: But then, yes, you're right, But then we also got 269 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: to protect. 270 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: Our people, so you do it to the extent to 271 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: your point that you are kind of protecting your peace 272 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 4: because again, you know, people have choices, right, God gave 273 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: man and woman choice, so you can only do so much. 274 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: But and then you know faith comes into play. You know, 275 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: I'm a woman of faith, and so I'll continue to 276 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 4: pray for that person. So yeah, do what you can 277 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: as much as possible, put the resources in front of them, 278 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: and you know. 279 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: Let's hope and pray for the best. But a lot of. 280 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: Times when people are in crisis, they don't know how 281 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 4: to get the help right, or they need somebody to say, hey, 282 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: I'll go to the with you, or I'll help y'all walk. 283 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: With you through this process. And you can only do 284 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: what you can do. 285 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: And you were right. 286 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 5: So Trump administration did discontinue one billion dollars in school 287 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 5: mental health grants, and the grants supported hiring school psychologists 288 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: and counselors, and it was funded by bipartisan legislation that 289 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 5: was passed after the twenty twenty two massacre. 290 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: At you you what is it? You all day? You've 291 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: all day? 292 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: You can see a lot of schools. 293 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Sometimes they might have one counselor for like ten schools, 294 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: and it's like the number of kids that are in crisis, 295 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: Like that's just not enough help and support. And sometimes 296 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: they're not licensed professional counselors. They just may be social workers, 297 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: which social workers are great, but oftentimes if these kids 298 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: need to learn how to get through the crisis that 299 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: they're in, they need someone that's license right and more 300 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: of a professional counselor. So you know, y'all got to 301 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: call your you know, your legislators, you know, talk to 302 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: your senators, talk to your congressmen and women, and you know, 303 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: we got to push back on this because we need 304 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: that funding, right, they need to keep pouring into our kids. 305 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: And it is as you see the suicide rates going 306 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: up and depression going up or do you see it 307 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: stabilized or do you see it coming down? With all 308 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: the mental health talk and all the you know, platforms 309 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: and places where people have to go. 310 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: Now, what do you see? 311 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: So for what I think the last study that I 312 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: saw was like from twenty twenty one or either twenty 313 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: twenty two, and suicide rates, particularly for black youth who. 314 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: Are up thirty percent. 315 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: You know a lot of those studies, they don't happen 316 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: every single year, right, those large pool of research studies. 317 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: But there has been an end tick, I mean an 318 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: uptick rather even just two weeks ago, there was a 319 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 4: young man in Atlanta who happened to have gone to 320 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: Palm two years ago, and then some of my other 321 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: friend's cousins knew him. 322 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: He took his own life. 323 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: You know, so I still see I'm still getting texts 324 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 4: and comments about these young people like taking their own lives, 325 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: and so it's still prevalent. 326 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Are they limited on social media. Is that what they're 327 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: saying it is, or they're saying lack. 328 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: Of resources in the school, or like what are they saying? 329 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: The reason is I'm always curious because I just feel like, 330 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: you know, when we were growing up, we would we 331 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: were just as bad, but we just didn't have that 332 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: social media element where people were constantly going at it. 333 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: I don't think we had the language, nor do I 334 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: think we had the same spaces to even express those issues. 335 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 5: Like my dad was dealing with all types of mental 336 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: health issues that he never talked talked to me about 337 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: until I was like forty years old. 338 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: But we didn't know how to name it or what 339 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: to call it. 340 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Is right, But even with all that, it's getting worse. 341 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: It feels like it should be getting better now that 342 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: your dad could talk, and that I can talk and 343 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: be open and just could talk. But I feel like 344 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: it should be getting better, but it doesn't seem like 345 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: it is. 346 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't know if I can pinpoint 347 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: it on one particular thing, envy, but I do think 348 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: it's still a lack of resources in some areas because 349 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: it's still in underserved communities. People know about it, but 350 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: they aren't taking that next step. That's why I'm proud 351 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: I have an announcement. So we created this PSA campaign 352 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: and it was around black men's mental health and it 353 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: was called Healing the Spaces between Us and so it 354 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: was a grandfather, a father, and a son and we 355 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: just got nominated for Southeast Emmy. Y'all shout out to 356 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: making Sure Jopringo, who is our creative direct there, and 357 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: Oak Films who put it together. But you know, we're 358 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: really trying to push that narrative, especially to you know, 359 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: young black men and their grandparents and their fathers. Y'all 360 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: get together and talk about it. 361 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: Nothing to be ashamed. 362 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: About, but you got to put your cars out on 363 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: the table and talk about it. 364 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: Yesterday in Atlanta or not yesterday the last week with 365 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: Black Children's Mental Health Day, right yep. 366 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Yes. 367 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: So two years ago, Senator Anderson in the State of 368 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: Georgia road a resolution designating May first as Black Children's 369 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: Mental Health Day in Georgia on behalf. 370 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: Of Silence of Shame. 371 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: We'd love to do that in New York. So maybe 372 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: we could partner with the Mental Health Alliance. Let's do 373 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: it designate May first in New York State because Again, 374 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: we're trying to just bring awareness to the problems that's 375 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: going on, so we can try to you know, cut 376 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: off those the numbers right that keep increasing for suicides. 377 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and you know this is Mental Health Awareness Month, 378 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: and there's always a lot of focus on raising awareness, right, 379 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: but how do we move past just awareness and start 380 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: like action steps for actual healing. 381 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: Again, I think you know, you got to meet people 382 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: where they're at again, you talked about the uncertain times. 383 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: Like part of our we have a mental health toolkit 384 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: on Silence, toshame dot com, a number of things that 385 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: you can do to honor the month and to push 386 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: resources out to the community. So one of the areas 387 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: we're focusing on is fire and rescue because you know, 388 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: we're seeing all these natural disasters and things happening in 389 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: the world. So we're pushing out resources that are targeted, 390 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: you know, to the firefighters and to people that are 391 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: out there on the front lines. Also, we did a 392 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: toolkit for the federal workers. Right, a lot of people 393 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: that have been let go. I think maybe half of 394 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: the people that got let go were due to the 395 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: cuts within this administration, and so we want to talk 396 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: directly to those that are suffering from a federal employee perspective, 397 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: letting them know to establish a routine, even though you 398 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: got let go get your daily routine going, even if 399 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: it's like looking for that next job, Like establish a 400 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: routine so you can protect your peace and practice mindfulness 401 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: and reach out if you need support. So we're trying 402 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: to target specific subgroups and people within the community, and 403 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: so you just gotta you gotta be forceful in a 404 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: way about it, so that we are unapologetic about healing 405 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 4: and getting help that we need, but looking at specific 406 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: groups of people because we can all say we're all 407 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: in this together. Mental health is important. We know we 408 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: got to take care of it. But when you talk 409 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: directly at a specific group of people, I think that's 410 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: when you start moving the needle and getting people to listen. 411 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely well. 412 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: How can people if they want to tap in and 413 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: they want to hear it or more information or they 414 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: want to help, how can they get involved? 415 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: First of all, visit our website silences Shame dot com again. 416 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: Today is National Silence a Shame Day and we have 417 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: a campaign. 418 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: It's May fifth. 419 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: We just want people to get five dollars, you know, 420 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 4: and the five dollars. I will say, if it's too 421 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: difficult for you, please save your money, pay your rent, 422 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 4: you do whatever you gotta do. But if you can 423 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: spare five dollars or more, you can text the words 424 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 4: silence to seven oh seven O seven O. Also understand 425 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: that nine eight eight is a free resources out there. 426 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: We recently partnered with the City of Atlanta. Shout out 427 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 4: to Mayor Dickens and Courtney English who came together with us, 428 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 4: and we're pushing nine eight eight out to everybody that 429 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: in you know, the city of Atlanta and beyond, and 430 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: you know, just really trying to make sure that we're 431 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: pushing as many resources to the community as possible. 432 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: So please support us. Y'all talk about it. 433 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: Don't just you know, if you're a young person and 434 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: you listen to the Breakfast Club and you are, you know, 435 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: going through something with a friend, talk about it. Don't 436 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: just like throw some foul stuff on social media about 437 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: that person. You know, be the bigger person, you know, 438 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: be unapologetic about healing and letting go the things that 439 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: don't serve you anymore. 440 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and one more question, Shanty, there's nobody that protects 441 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 5: the piece more than Andre three thousand. Do you think 442 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 5: he's even. 443 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: Gonna come to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? 444 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: What's the under old pheamony, I say he gonna be there. 445 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: I think he's coming. I will say. 446 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: I call both Big Andre after you know, the announcement 447 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 4: came out and Andrea, both of them were so excited. 448 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: Drey was really excited. 449 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: Okay, so we're gonna we're gonna keep home alive. 450 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, today is silenced, the shame day mental 451 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: health away in this month. 452 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Of course, we appreciate you for joining us. 453 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 454 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, wake that ass up 455 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: in the morning. The Breakfast Club 456 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: M