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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 4: My name is ty Hildebrand joining me again my good

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you part two? Tye?

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Speaker 2: Part ar duh Pardieu Pardieu. I'm excited, Tye. We have again.

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Speaker 2: We have like seventeen now, we have eighteen pages of

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Speaker 2: to do this mega Q and a preseason show. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Part one came out on Wednesday. Thrilled uh to welcome

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Speaker 2: forget what you defined Wisconsin offense, Wisconsin's office their beefy,

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Speaker 2: but it was like optimal beef poenis there was a

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeffy.

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Speaker 4: Well, we had a fun time on Wednesday. We've got

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Speaker 4: more questions that we're going to pull from here. I

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Speaker 4: you a very important question about Italian food, just to

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Speaker 4: get things kicked off here. When we're talking about lasagna,

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Speaker 2: I like that we're starting this out with previously on

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Speaker 2: the solid verb. That's right exactly, and it's about lasagna.

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Speaker 4: My thing is not lasagna, but some sort of dish

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Speaker 2: It's like a creamy, a creamy tomato sauce.

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Speaker 2: I most certainly did tie and it was wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Well, don't forget that Chicago Live Show is going to

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Speaker 4: be posted on Wednesday if you're interested in hearing who

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Speaker 4: we selected at our Fantasy Things draft at the Vidim Theater.

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Speaker 4: We had a great crowd, We had great fun. Afterwards.

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Speaker 4: of you playing the home game. And yes, as I

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Speaker 1: Was a dumb thing to say. I know it.

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Speaker 2: I love the fire though. I love that you were

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Speaker 4: But I wasn't confident. This is what happens when I

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Speaker 2: All Right, I tease this question in part one Corny

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, I'm actually going to switch to ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Dino Babers.

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Speaker 4: Here's the question that I would answer this question with,

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Speaker 1: I think Dino Babers is a good coach.

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Speaker 4: Dan sure, I'm not sure Syracuse is necessarily a school

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Speaker 2: Maybe my answer is Jeff Monkin. But I think the

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Speaker 4: Why are you convinced that the option is going to

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Speaker 2: Ty, I'm old enough to remember the twenty fourteen Orange Bowl.

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Speaker 1: What have they done since then?

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Speaker 2: They've been fine? Okay, they haven't been They've been going

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Speaker 4: Listen, I'm all about thinking differently. I'm just unconvinced. I'm

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Speaker 2: I love the option, Tie, I know.

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Speaker 4: I think that's why you answer the way you do.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm getting at here, which is fine. That's

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Speaker 2: Who is the standalone This comes to us from Richard.

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Speaker 2: Who is the standalone most exciting quarterback in the Power

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Speaker 4: I think the answer is Kyler Murray. What the answer

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Speaker 1: The answer is Kyle Shocked by that answer? Why?

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Speaker 2: Why is he the most exciting quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Because there is that secondary element to Kyler Murray, because

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Speaker 2: So most exciting because the most thrilling, intense. At any moment,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the thrill of victory and agony of defeat

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Speaker 1: How exciting? Wow?

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Speaker 2: What you took this in such a dark way?

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Speaker 1: I think so you're living on the edge of your seat.

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Speaker 2: Man, I was I was just gonna say, Khalil Tait.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Will it's probably the right answer. Yeah's million

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Speaker 2: Man, I love that you went dark, though I was unexpected.

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Speaker 2: You're usually the bright shining light of this show. Next question, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I like this question. Somebody asked about Stanford and Notre

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Speaker 1: And I think the same.

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Speaker 2: For no real reason. In particular, I feel like you

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Speaker 2: Rapid fire, rapid fire. I'm scrolling way up. I just

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Speaker 2: want to talk about Ed and Lisa McCaffrey some more.

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Speaker 2: Okay with you, Maui beer guy, I feel like I

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Speaker 2: know you. Yeah, Dan, you live in New York City,

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Speaker 2: They're extremely fun. You just have to do some scouting.

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Speaker 2: Like all things in life.

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Speaker 1: You got a scout, you got a scout, all right.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've been. I feel like I was

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Speaker 2: I went to Professor Toms that's a Michigan bar in

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Speaker 4: Right, real quick, Dan Jim wants to know, is it

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Speaker 4: too early to drink pumpkin beer? Watching games during weeks

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Speaker 4: one through four of the college football season. So pumpkin

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Speaker 4: beer in September? Now, this is like poking at whether

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Speaker 4: or not you like pumpkin beer. I'm gonna put that

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Speaker 4: off to the side for a second and say that

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Speaker 4: I saw pumpkin beer at Wegmans like two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: So it seems like they're trying to out pumpkin beer

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Speaker 4: their competition by putting their pumpkin beer out earlier and

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Speaker 4: earlier every year. And so if you're into pumpkin beer,

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Speaker 4: I think your best option is probably to drink it

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Speaker 4: some time in September because the good ones are out

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Speaker 4: really early. Now that is separate from the fact of

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Speaker 4: whether or not you should be drinking pumpkin beer. And

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Speaker 4: while we could probably do a whole other podcast episode

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Speaker 4: on that, but the answer, Jim, I think is it

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Speaker 4: is not too early, because if you're into it, it

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Speaker 4: is required.

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Speaker 2: Consume what you'd like when you like time of year

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Speaker 2: wise responsibly, and if you like pumpkin beer, drink your

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Speaker 2: pumpkin beer. If you're hit by a bus and you

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Speaker 2: haven't touched your pumpkin beer, nobody can say he went

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Speaker 2: out like he lived full of pumpkin beer. Now you

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Speaker 2: take advantage while we're all here.

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Speaker 4: Jordan says that LSU has now had four of their

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Speaker 4: last twenty scholarship quarterbacks finish their college careers at LSU.

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Speaker 1: Not a question.

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Speaker 4: Just wanted to complain. Thanks forward, and I'm sorry. Lowell

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Speaker 4: Narcis has announced that he is transferring. I believe I

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Speaker 4: saw that McMillan maybe transferring as well, so that quarterback

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Speaker 4: competition between Joe Burrow and Miles Brennan appears to be

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Speaker 4: at least somewhat narrowed down. We will find out more

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Speaker 4: about that as obviously we get closer to the football season.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully some folks are reading the Attle Athletic, the Athletic

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Speaker 4: dot com slash solid Verbal and check it out.

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Speaker 1: Bless you.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Ty got overwhelmed. What is what is your what

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Speaker 2: is your view of that LSU situation? It is troubling, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's troubling looking at the future and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I compared it from the Solid Verbal account to a

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Speaker 2: restaurant space that no matter who moves in. If it's

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Speaker 2: a kebab place, if it's a pizza place, if it's

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Speaker 2: a cookie place, nobody's succeeding. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: a if it's just cursed burial ground.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is not a talent thing. It is not

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Speaker 1: a talent thing.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of changed positions. If you remember Russell Sheppard

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Speaker 2: coming a safety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's a talent thing.

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Speaker 4: I think the talent that they're bringing in is obviously

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Speaker 4: high end enough to support having a really good quarterback

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Speaker 4: at LSU. It is either recruiting the wrong kind of

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Speaker 4: quarterback for a system, or the coaching one or the other.

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Speaker 4: It has to be one of those two things, because

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Speaker 4: I really don't think it's the raw talent.

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Speaker 2: I think Russell Sheppard moved to receiver, by the way,

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Speaker 2: more I think about it, not safety. But we'll see, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think it's because there

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Speaker 2: has been weird continuity and at a certain point every

496
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Speaker 2: program needs to be torn down and rebuilt back up.

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Speaker 2: And you know ed Origron is a less Miles assistant,

498
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Speaker 2: less miles being there forever, there's just certain ideas and

499
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Speaker 2: certain ways of doing things that carry over and perhaps offensively.

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Speaker 2: Now Steve Wensminger takes over the offense. He was the

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Speaker 2: previous interim coach under ed Oorgron when he took over

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Now that Matt Canada's gone,

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Speaker 2: there's just something that I just it needs to be

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Speaker 2: rethought with new people. And I think eventually LSU will

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Speaker 2: develop and succeed with quarterbacks that they themselves recruits. I

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Speaker 2: just and Joe Burrow could succeed, but he's not a

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Speaker 2: you know, not an LSU quarterback in the way that

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Speaker 2: recruits are. He wasn't developed through that system. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: All right, Dan, We're going to do two rapid fire

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Speaker 4: questions and then we've got a special interview to bring people.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take one for myself here and then you

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Speaker 4: get to pick one for your all right. Uh, Anthony

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Speaker 4: wants to know, especially for Tie, am I a sheets.

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Speaker 1: Guy or a wah wah guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Tye, please answer.

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Speaker 4: The answer here is woah wah. Okay, the only answer

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Speaker 4: is wah wah here, So count me down to guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's start at the beginning, because I assume we have

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Speaker 2: people that are listening outside of Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so what does this question mean? Yea two?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, these are two convenience stores slash gas stations slash

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Speaker 4: places where you can go and get an mto sandwich

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Speaker 4: that are what may to order, Oh my god, one

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Speaker 4: of the little time screens. Sure so, sheets I think

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Speaker 4: started up around your state college or Altoona, and wah

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Speaker 4: Wah started here in eastern Pennsylvania. It's kind of like

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Speaker 4: a staple here in eastern Pennsylvania. I think the wah

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Speaker 4: wah subs and certainly the wah Wah coffee are a

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Speaker 4: lot better than sheets.

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Speaker 2: What makes I've seen this all over My friend Sam

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Speaker 2: goes to New Jersey. I think it's from New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: and he's always taken pictures of his woah wah sub

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Speaker 2: wa wa. What makes it so good?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: I've never been able to pinpoint it, but all I

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Speaker 4: can say is it's it's probably the bread on the

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Speaker 4: sandwich that feels a little fresher, whereas sheets is more

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Speaker 4: of like a subway, kind of like manufactured sub It

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Speaker 4: feels like wah Wah has a freshness quotient that's a

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Speaker 4: little higher.

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Speaker 2: Wah wah the freshness quotient. It's a free advertise, so

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Speaker 2: it's sort of like how people in Florida and the

543
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Speaker 2: Southeast feel about publics. I don't think not comparing the

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Speaker 2: quality of the two, but there is just something locally

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Speaker 2: and tribal about locally desirous about the WA. I need

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Speaker 2: to try it the next time I come out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we gotta go. Okay, sometime this season will do it.

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Speaker 2: And final question, you get to pick Okay, we don't

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Speaker 2: talk about this enough, even though we've mentioned it before.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to our old friend Dan, who I believe

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Speaker 2: is talking about taking his dad to football games and

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Speaker 2: where to go Like the bucket listing miss because there

553
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Speaker 2: is an element of people listen to the show, people

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Speaker 2: who are just college football fans. There's like that second

555
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Speaker 2: Bachelor party. Me and my buddies get together every year

556
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Speaker 2: we try to see a new college football place. Sure,

557
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Speaker 2: we've taken a form of this question many times, but

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Speaker 2: he's taking his dad to LSU, which is absolutely on

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Speaker 2: that list, if not the top of the list. It's

560
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Speaker 2: the first time going on a trip like this. What

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Speaker 2: other stadiums should they or anybody see? And is Michigan,

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Speaker 2: his home state, A good pick for twenty nineteen. To

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Speaker 2: answer his quiet first question, absolutely, and arbors great. The

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Speaker 2: Big House is great. It's something that everybody should see.

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Speaker 2: It is one of those places, one of those locales

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Speaker 2: that helped to define what college football is. And if

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Speaker 2: you haven't been, I've never I take that back. I

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Speaker 2: went to Michigan Ohio State in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 2: but it's been a long time since I've been to

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Speaker 2: the Big House for a game, and I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to go back. Ty, you have not traveled extensively in

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Speaker 2: the way that I have no facts only what would

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Speaker 2: you say if you were getting together with the fellas? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: go see a college town. Nobody's been to go see

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Speaker 2: a stadium a big game. What boxes would you try

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Speaker 2: to check?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean one that I'm dynasty is Clemson a

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Speaker 4: great time. I'm dynasty.

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Speaker 2: Clemson tougher to get to, yeah, but worth it.

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Speaker 4: Tougher to get to and kind of along the same lines,

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Speaker 4: Blacksburg is another one than that has really tough to

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Speaker 4: get to. Yeah, a rich tradition, but maybe a little

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Speaker 4: bit off the beaten path. The super fun third that

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Speaker 4: I would throw out there be Madison, Wisconsin because you know,

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Speaker 4: it might not be in a deep South and the

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Speaker 4: weather might be a bit colder come middle to the

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Speaker 4: end of the season, but everyone talks about the incredible

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Speaker 4: tradition in Madison, and you know, I know our two

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Speaker 4: Q and AH shows have been pretty heavy on Wisconsin here,

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Speaker 4: but Madison, Wisconsin continually comes up among people who I

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Speaker 4: know and trust as one of the coolest places to

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Speaker 4: watch college football.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is very fun. Ole miss is fun and different

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Speaker 2: within the SEC I've been to most place, most of

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Speaker 2: the bigger places. Tennessee it's enormous, and it's like the

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Speaker 2: Big House in that it houses you know, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten thousand people or something like that, but it's

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Speaker 2: banked a lot more dramatically. The stands are so you

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Speaker 2: really feel fans on top of you down by the field.

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Speaker 2: So I would definitely say Tennessee Washington is a great

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Speaker 2: time and it's also red on the lake and people

602
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Speaker 2: are also tailgating on boats across the Big twelve. Austin

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Speaker 2: is a great town, but the experience of going to

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Speaker 2: a Texas game is not all that overwhelming, So I

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Speaker 2: would say, you know, still Water is a little out

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Speaker 2: there in terms of distance from a major airport, but

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Speaker 2: not too bad. Norman as well. Norman's not that far

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Speaker 2: from Oklahoma City. I'm trying to think it's stadiums I

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Speaker 2: haven't been to that I'd like to go to. Ohio

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Speaker 2: State's fun Ohio Stadium is also one of those enormous places.

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Speaker 2: But getting out of the Big Ten, getting out of

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Speaker 2: the SEC. Clemson is a good answer. Miami does, probably

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Speaker 2: not worth it. Florida State is fine, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I'm putting it up with the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: I think that's everything I really have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of other ones that

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Speaker 4: we've been to that are really good, you know, like

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Speaker 4: Notre Dames and Experience and Penn State's and Experience. But

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Speaker 4: for me anyway, those are my three answers. Clemson, Penn State,

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Speaker 4: is Wisconsin difficult to get to, Yeah, Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I flew into Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh is no Pennsylvania tie.

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Speaker 4: It's long, Manross Holy and it's well, it's five hours across,

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Speaker 4: and then you drive an hour and a half and

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Speaker 4: it's like ooh, detour real quick, yep, and then you're

625
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Speaker 4: going around things and there are no lights on the

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Speaker 4: highways or the interstates.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a far away drive from everything.

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Speaker 2: That's well, that's what I will say. You know what,

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Speaker 2: I'll give one more answer. West Virginia is a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Morgantown, baby.

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Speaker 2: West Virginia, Morgantown, you can you can fly into Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: It's not that far from Pittsburgh. Morgantown's a good time.

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Speaker 1: So here's how we're going to close out.

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Speaker 4: We talked about how we didn't have a chance to

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Speaker 4: really preview Conference USSA right.

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Speaker 2: Well at Conference USA West.

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Speaker 4: I believe Conference to USA West we have done something

638
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Speaker 4: that no other college football podcast has done. That's right,

639
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Speaker 4: previewing their conferences before the start of the season. Dan,

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Speaker 4: We're going to close out on that note, correct.

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Speaker 2: We are going to close out on this note. Obviously,

642
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Conference the Western Division of Conference USA has a lot

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Speaker 2: of interesting teams, a lot of teams who have made

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00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: noise in various way in recent years. We had seth

645
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Speaker 2: latrelle on the North Texas head coach earlier during our

646
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Speaker 2: scheme theme month, and I just figured why not actually

647
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Speaker 2: go to the source. So I had a conversation with

648
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Speaker 2: starting tight end Kelvin Smith, about all things North Texas,

649
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Speaker 2: How camp is going, how the season's looking, the rest

650
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Speaker 2: of the team's across Conference USA, where the Mean Green

651
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Speaker 2: might improve a little bit, And let me tell you something,

652
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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit higher on Mason Fine and the

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Speaker 2: Mean Green than I was before. So here it is.

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Speaker 2: And with that we are now joined by Kelvin Smith,

655
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Speaker 2: tight end h back North Texas the Mean Green. Yes, sir, successful,

656
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: huge offense. They go nine and three last year. And

657
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: to everybody who says we are not looking out for

658
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: really really good group of five teams, my goodness, we've

659
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: got a star in the making. Kelvin, how are you?

660
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Speaker 3: I'm going good?

661
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: How bout just?

662
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: I am wonderful. I am pump to talk to you.

663
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: You guys were extraordinarily fun to watch last year. I

664
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: expect more fun things this year. You're on the John

665
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: McKie Award watch list. So everything is looking good. In August,

666
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: how's camp so far?

667
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: It's going good. We're about midway through and we're just

668
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: going outside, going out there and competing, flying around and

669
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: just making each other bet every single day.

670
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: Is what's the difference. Obviously this will be your third

671
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: year on the field for North Texas. What's the difference

672
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: between I guess the year two off season last year

673
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: when the offense is installed, you know, the team improves,

674
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, it becomes sort of feisty, and then last

675
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: year going to a flat out winning team. What's an

676
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: off season like after that kind of improvement?

677
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: It was just changing the standard, just continuing to raise

678
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: it because everybody has an understanding of the playbook of

679
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: the scheme, So now it's just time to just continue

680
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: to raise the standard and expect more out of each other.

681
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: So do you feel like the playbook is going to

682
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: be I mean, not to give state secrets away, but

683
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: similar do you think you know you're staying ahead of

684
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: the curve? Do you think there are tweaks? Do you

685
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: think there are things that are being overhauled? How do

686
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: you look at what your responsibility is going to be

687
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: as this offense evolves?

688
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: I think the playbook, I mean, it's about the same

689
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: every now and then we add in different tweeks and

690
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: adjustments for specific things. But I mean our mindset is

691
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: always we can go out there with two or three plays,

692
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: and our mindset is just go out there and execute

693
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: those two or three plays all game and nobody should

694
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: be able to stop with That's just the mentality we

695
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: have when we step on a field.

696
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: What is your view of the teams you played last year?

697
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Obviously some top teams getting a lot of attention. You

698
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: finish out the season in somewhat disappointing fashion in the

699
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: bowl game. But North Texas in a bowl game is

700
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's a big deal, It's an accomplishment. How

701
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: do you view Conference USA as it stands now? You

702
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: feel like it's getting to a really good place. You know,

703
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: who stands out in your mind right now within the conference.

704
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: I'll say FAU Louisiana Tech, but honestly, up and down.

705
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: I feel like the whole schedule and the whole conference

706
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: is starting to rise. And it's not many guys that

707
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: you can look past them and be like, oh, that's

708
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: the easy duve. I mean, every single team is going

709
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: to come out here and give.

710
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Us all they have a couple of a few weeks

711
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: last year, you know you had to score forty to

712
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: win some games. Obviously, the defense is a work in progress.

713
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: You're looking into this defense every practice against the ones,

714
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: against the twos, wherever, where do you expect this defense

715
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: to improve with another year of experience.

716
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: I expect them to just continue to just improve in

717
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: every phase.

718
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean another year in the scheme.

719
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: Coach Reford is taking over full time for his second year,

720
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: so they just they're settling it into that scheme real well,

721
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: and they're competing with us every day and making us

722
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: better every single day.

723
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: And give me a name on offense that you expect.

724
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 2: You know, obviously Mason's name is one that is growing

725
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: and growing. But among the pass catchers, who do you

726
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: expect to outside of you to to increase their visibility?

727
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: Who do you think America will find more out about

728
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: this year?

729
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: You're going to see a.

730
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: Lot of Jalen Darden.

731
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: He switches number one, so he'll be wearing number one.

732
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 3: But he's electric with the ball in his hand. And

733
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: I usually get a lot of credit for my versatility,

734
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: but I think he's right up there with me from

735
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: a versatility standpoint. You can literally put him anywhere on

736
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: that offense and you go to see, uh, just him

737
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 3: make plays all over the field.

738
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: So you have Coach Latrelle's ear. Obviously he's called you

739
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: very versatile. But within a versatile offense, and you bring

740
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: a tight end in h back if you have his

741
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 2: ear and you're able to say, use me like this,

742
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: put me in this kind of position, Put use me

743
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: on this kind of play. Do you want you know,

744
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: do you want to carry out of the backfield? Do

745
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: you want a trick play pass? Do you want you know,

746
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: to be up the scene more? What is your desire

747
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: out of the tight end position for twenty eighteen?

748
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really about the same as it

749
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: was with twenty seventeen. Just continuing to expand my role

750
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 3: in the passing game. But my mindset has always been

751
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm a primary blocker and that's that's just what I

752
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: love to do. I have a pass for blocking, and

753
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: I'll get I'll get excited when they dial up a

754
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: run play more more excited when they dial up a

755
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: run play rather than the pass play for me.

756
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Excellent. And what do you expect out of the offense

757
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: outside of you this year? What has been the big

758
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: difference in in your quarterback? Mason Fine as he enters

759
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: year three, putting up big numbers and becoming a bigger name.

760
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: Just more confidence. I mean I remember him coming in

761
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: as a freshman, in coming in that first game against

762
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: SMU and the season opener, and he came out there

763
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: with a lot of confidence, but throughout the season it

764
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: got shattered and shaped up a little bit. But over

765
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: the past two years he's just showing just more confident

766
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: taking the offense and the team by to him and

767
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: just being a great leader for US.

768
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Kelvin Smith, thank you very much for your time and

769
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: good luck this year.

770
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

771
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

772
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: Boom.

773
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: There you go, Dan Yep, And to go through the

774
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: rest quickly of the division. Louisiana Tech Skip Holtz should

775
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: be pretty decent and balanced on offense. I like them

776
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: a good amount. Southern Miss just not there yet. UAB

777
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: should have a really good defense, replacing a couple of

778
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: key parts, but remains an unbelievable story. Bill Clark has

779
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: hired his old offensive coordinator back to that position to

780
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: sort of regain the old magic UTSA. You know, they

781
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: lose Marcus Davenport in a couple of big pieces on defense,

782
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: but I think they're still going to be there. I

783
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: would file them under your very exclusive pluckiness rankings.

784
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Ty Yeah, and.

785
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: UTEP is going to They're going to struggle first year

786
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: coach former Kansas State. I think offensive coordinator Dana Demmel.

787
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: I'm pronouncing everything wrong. UTEP's going to struggle. But that's

788
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: all I have on you go, Minors.

789
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: Go miners.

790
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, thank you again to everyone who downloaded the

791
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: show who listened in. We've got our Fantasy Things show

792
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: coming up on Wednesday. Dan and I will be back

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00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: to record next Sunday, a new show as we gear

794
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: up for the college football season. The next show after

795
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Speaker 4: our next show is going to be our Week one preview.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, ty we did it?

797
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: The dull drums are we got through? About over? Yeah?

798
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

799
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: We've got a cool show, by the way planned for

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Speaker 2: So the Fantasy Things Draft Live from Chicago is Wednesday, yes,

801
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: and then Sunday, So a week from this episode will

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00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: be a new type of episode that we've never done.

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00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: And it's just sort of a tweaked System System season preview.

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Speaker 1: In our own way, entirely naked.

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Speaker 2: I am pretty pomped for this time. Yeah, I'm good

806
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: to go.

807
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