1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Lauren Vogelbon and 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: i am Annie Rees and today it's the Julia Child episode. Yes, 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: it's finally here. Laurens so excited. I am oh, I'm 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: freaking out just a little bit. But okay, okay, So 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: you know we we have intended to start doing a 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: series of sort of biographical episodes about famous food personalities, chefs, 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: uh and and other humans. Yes, and Julia Child is 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: a great place to start. So what is it? Nope, 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: force of habit but brief bio In case you don't know, 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Julia Child was a best selling author, well known TV 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: chef personality and CIA operative kind of. She was well 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: known for her love of French food and she was 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: quite quite quite quite popular. Um there have been movies 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: about her, Meryl Street playter, um TV shows made about her, 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: and I think one's about to come out Julia Cool. Yeah, 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: so she made quite the impact. Yes, and she she 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: to be super honest, dear listeners. She made quite an 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: impact on me. I grew up with my my My 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: father was a chef and a cook, and my mom 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: was a huge fan of cooking, and so I grew 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: up watching Julia child when I was a child, and 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: watching her videos now still elicits this extreme nostalgia response. 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: It just makes me so happy because she's she's so 24 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: joyous about cooking. She's so capable and and very physical. 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: She just beats the crap out of stuff continually, but 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: in a useful way. And I don't know, her whole 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: attitude is just very positive. Yes, And I actually knew 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: very little about Julia Child, so this has been quite 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: a joyous thing for me to learn about her. So 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: let's let's start with her early life. Julia Child was 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: born Juliet Caroline McWilliams on August fifteenth, nineteen twelve, in Pasadena, California, 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: to John Jr. And Julia Carroll Caroline excuse me McWilliams 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: nay Weston, called Carol yep. She was the oldest of 34 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: three children and went by several pet names like Jukes 35 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: and Juju. Her father was a consultant and financier. He 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: was a second generation gold pioneer who inherited a lot 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: of his father's kind of business dealings gold pioneer and 38 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: her mother was the heiress of a paper company from 39 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: her father, and her father was also the Lieutenant governor 40 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: of Massachusetts. Uh. Julia's great grandparents on her mother's western 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: side might have known Dr Sylvester Graham. Everyone is connected 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: to doctor Graham. Oh, it's crazy. They lived just a 43 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: town over from where Graham did a lot of his preaching. Um. 44 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: The Western family, by the way, also traced back to 45 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Plymouth Rock Like. They were some of the first people 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to come over to the United States or to to 47 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: America at the time, it was not yet united through 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the Brewster line. Anyway, the mick Williams must have been 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: doing pretty well for themselves because all of their children 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: went to private schools and the family had a cook 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: and other servants. Julia was very active and known as 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a prankster at her school. UM. She 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: was always tall, taking after her father, and topped out 54 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: at six ft two inches. Her sister, Dorothy was six 55 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: ft three. Julia was kind of a rabble rouser and 56 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: a bit of a ham She always took part in 57 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: school plays, though she noted that do perhaps to her 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: height and the fact that she attended an all girls school, 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: she was always casts as the man or as a beast, 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: never the princess, and random fact, on a family trip 61 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: to Tijuana. A young Julia encountered Caesar Cardini at his restaurant, 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Ak the guy who came up with the Caesar salad. 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: The dude made the salad table side for them to enjoy. 64 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: And years later, when Julia child had become a famous 65 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: chef herself, she got Cardini's daughter Rosa to give her 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the origin recipe. Uh, speaking of food as we are 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: want to do. Julia's mother, Carol didn't care for cooking, 68 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: so Julia never really touched a kitchen when she was younger. 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: She she grew up in the kind of family that 70 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: eats well, but very plainly. It was also an arrow 71 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: when prepackaged foods were kind of trendy. You know, being 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: able to serve like Hinz meant jelly with your lamb 73 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: was a sign of wealth and modernity. Hines mint jelly 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: in n She graduated from Smith College in Massachusetts with 75 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: a b a Bachelor of Arts in history. Her mom 76 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: was an alum, and Julia was enrolled at birth day 77 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: of her birth and she's enrolled in college. Okay. After graduation, 78 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: she started working for furniture company W and J. Sloan 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: in New York as an ad copywriter her goal was 80 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: to become a writer, but she wrote in her diary, 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I am sadly. I am sadly an ordinary person with 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: talents I do not use. Yeah, young Julia, harsh on yourself. 83 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: She was also very active and outgoing during her college career, 84 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: where among things like drama and basketball, she was the 85 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: chair of refreshment committee for senior prom and fall dance. 86 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: And I found this tidbit on the CIA's website, by 87 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, more on that in a second, but yeah, 88 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: So three years would pass before she returned to Pasadena. 89 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: She transferred to the Los Angeles w j Salone branch, 90 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: but she was soon fired for gross and sword in subordination, 91 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite facts of this whole thing. 92 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: I love that. So she started taking ob jobs as 93 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: a writer, mostly for various advertising firms, while also doing 94 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: volunteer work for the Junior League Pasadena. She was a 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: little bit restless at the time. It was expected in 96 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: her circles for women to, you know, get married and 97 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: have fancy children and have fancy parties, and she just 98 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: wasn't interested. She turned down a marriage proposal from what 99 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: was considered a smart match um and inspired by her 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: mother's really of independence. She insisted on marriage being based 101 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: on love. I'm good for you, Julia. Then World War 102 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: two happened and Julia moved to Washington, d C. To 103 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: help in nine but she ran into a snag her height. 104 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Both the Woman accepted for Volunteer Emergency Services or WAVES 105 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and Woman's Army Corps w a C rejected her on 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: the grounds of her being too tall at as Lauren said, 107 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: six ft two inches. So she joined what would eventually 108 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: become the CIA, the Office of Strategic Services instead, as 109 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: one of the four thousand, five hundred women OSS employed. 110 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: She started doing mostly clerical work as a research assistant 111 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: for the Secret Intelligence Division under the organization's leader, General 112 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: William J. Donovan. According to the CIA's website, she typed 113 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: up the names of thousands of officers on little white 114 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: note cards to keep track of them before or you know, 115 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: computers and stuff. She had a great drive for for 116 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: detail work and organization and this this is thematic, yes, 117 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: but that partly probably sucked. It probably wasn't the most stimulating. Then, 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: in one of my other favorite facts of this episode, 119 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: she transferred to the Emergency Sea Rescue Equipment section. You 120 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: ask what could she be doing there developing a shark repellent? 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: That's right, She helped come up with a shark repellent 122 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: that was actually super useful as a coding for explosives 123 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: used against German U boats that clumsy sharks would sometimes 124 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: bump into and set off. Um from Julia Child in 125 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: the book Sister of Spies, I understand the shark repellent 126 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 1: we developed is being used today for down to space 127 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: equipment strapped around it so the sharks won't attack when 128 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: it lands in the ocean. This is the only fact 129 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I knew about Julia Child going in because I used 130 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: to edit videos for Shark Week and I remembered Julia 131 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Child was involved somehow, and I was like, wow, what 132 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: could it be? Now I know chakra pellent. Yes. In 133 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Julia Child was sent overseas to Ceylon modern day Sri 134 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Lanka as you might remember from our Cinnamon episode, and 135 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: eventually to Kunming, China, where she worked for the OSS 136 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Registry and had top security clearance. She knew the contents 137 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: of all incoming and outgoing messages, especially dealing with the 138 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: invasion of Malay. During her time at the OSS and Ceylon, 139 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: she met her future husband and fellow O S S 140 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: officer Paul Cushing child. Paul was working designing war rooms 141 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: for the generals that were stationed there and and in China. 142 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Their romance was not always assured. However, Paul, who spoke 143 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: fluent French, was a black belt in Judo, was an artist, 144 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: was ten years older than Julia. In letters to his brother, 145 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: Paul described her as wildly emotional and an extremely sloppy thinker, 146 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: unable to sustain ideas for very long. Julia was similarly 147 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: similarly unimpressed, writing Paul as having light hair which is 148 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: not on top, an unbecoming blonde mustache, and a long, 149 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: unbecoming nose. Light hair which is not on top might 150 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: be my new favorite. Like subtle dists. That's a good one, um. 151 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: He was also compared to her six to just five 152 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: ft ten inches. However, they both got over these gripes 153 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: about each other and were soon in love. Paul now 154 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: wrote to his brother, she frankly likes to eat and 155 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: user senses and has a keen nose, and she also 156 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: washes my shirts. What a dame. They also would bond 157 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: over the adventure of trying new foods in China. They 158 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: decided to take a few months to get to know 159 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: each other in civilian clothes once the World War had ended, 160 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: meeting each other's friends and family, traveling across country before 161 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: getting married in September nine. Inside note she'd been in 162 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: a car accident the previous day and got married with 163 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: a bandage on her head. It's actually kind of a 164 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: cute picture, um, and Paul was the one who introduced 165 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: her to cooking. Previous to meeting him, she pretty much 166 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: lived off frozen dinners and once exploded a duck in 167 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: the oven and caused a fire, haven't we all? I know, 168 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I've been there. Paul worked for the United States Information 169 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: Service after the war and was stationed in the American 170 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: Embassy in Paris, France. Julia accompanied him, and on the 171 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: way to Paris, they stopped in the town of Rouen 172 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: at La Corone, said to be the oldest inn in 173 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: the country, and they had a lunch there that Julia 174 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: would later call the most exciting meal of my life. 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: It featured raw oysters, fresh rye bread, and fresh better sulmoniere, 176 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: which is a whole fush a whole fish that's cooked 177 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: too simply with browned butter and parsley um, a green 178 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: salad after the main course, a baguette, cheese and coffee, 179 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: and a bottle of white wine, which absolutely shocked shocked Julia, 180 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: who was still kind of young at thirty six. Wine 181 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: at lunch, My goodness, what an exciting meal. Julia absolutely 182 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: adored the experience and fell head over heels for France 183 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: and French cuisine, later writing, the whole experience was an 184 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: opening up of the soul and spirit for me. I 185 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: was hooked and for life, as it turned out. So 186 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: that brings us to the beginning of Julia Child's food adventures. 187 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: But first let's pause for a quick word from our sponsor, 188 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you sponsor. So as Paul and 189 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Julia settled into Paris, they found themselves not quite servantless 190 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: that the small two occupant building that they rented floors 191 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: on employed a maid, but they were basically cookless. As 192 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: they explored the city and especially its restaurants, Julia became 193 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: more and more fascinated by French food and culinary culture 194 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: and started teaching herself how to cook. She she basically 195 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: learned French so that she could communicate with her grocers. 196 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: She decided to enroll at the Cordon Blue, which is 197 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: a well established hobbyists and sort of pre professional cooking 198 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: school in the city, because you know, she finally had 199 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: something to be serious about, and she was very serious 200 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: about it. She quickly transferred from housewives classes to professional 201 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: classes where she would learn under Chef Max Bulna, who 202 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: had learned under the great cuisine chef Augustus Scoffier. She 203 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: she had the idea that she might eventually contribute to 204 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: her in Paul's household, and you know, keep her self 205 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: busy by publishing a cooking pamphlet and teaching cooking classes 206 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: for other American expats in Paris and France in general. Um, 207 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: she was learning a great deal of technique and kitchen 208 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: science at the time. Plus between the connections that she 209 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: made through Chef Bunjar and Paul's connections via the embassy, 210 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: she was getting exposure to the art and culture a 211 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: French cuisine. Well, I mean all those connections plus just 212 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: both her and Paul's shine. Like the two of them 213 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: seem like they were the absolute best folks to have 214 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: at parties. I know. I mean, Paul speaks ten languages 215 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: and does black belt judo and photographer and a poet. 216 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: It's it's very very worldly kind of dude. Um oh. 217 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: I should also mention that the Cordon Blue offered demonstrations 218 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: in the afternoons and a sort of kitchen theater. Julia 219 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: would compare it to to a surgical theater where students 220 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: and any civilian with the interest in the money could 221 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: come and watch professional chefs and ask questions as they 222 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: presented and explained their work. I go check those out. Eventually, 223 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Julia would meet through her friends in France, two women 224 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: who were working on a cookbook of French cuisine for Americans, 225 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Simone Beck known as Simca and Louisette Bartol. They got 226 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: along really well and began offering cooking classes under the 227 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: name Nicole gormant Uh without the s on the end. 228 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Y'all get the picture. I don't speak French. Through this, though, 229 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: Julia became interested in collaborating on their book, though she 230 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: wanted to go even further into detail than Simca and 231 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Louisette had been doing, and her idea here was that 232 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: people are intimidated by cooking or not so good at 233 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: cooking because they don't have access to what amounts to 234 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the feel of it. She thought that the cold science 235 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: approach to cooking that was built up by you know, 236 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: esthetic nutritionists like Kellogg and by function over form home 237 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: mack classes had had left American cooks lacking. They didn't 238 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: know that the properties of their ingredients, or why certain 239 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: techniques work the way they do, or what recipe should 240 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: look like and feel like during different points in the process, 241 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: or or how to troubleshoot any problems that arise. So 242 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: starting in the three of them worked and researched and 243 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: reworked and tested and re reworked every recipe with the 244 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: help of Paul and other family and friends on both 245 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: sides of the pond. This process would take ten years 246 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: and three publishers. UM the first was uncommunicative and they 247 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: they never signed a contract. Then UM Houghton Mifflin signed on, 248 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: but the deal fell through as deadlines whooshed on by 249 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: and the writings started sagging under the weight of its 250 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: own detail. Meanwhile, the Child's were moving every few years 251 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: with Paul's job, from Paris to Marseille, then Bond, then Washington, 252 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: d C. Then Oslo. And Julia would have to learn 253 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: another art along the way, writing in order to make 254 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: their their voices and their intentions come through in the book. Finally, 255 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: with help from long time penpal Avis Devoto, the editors 256 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: at Not Publishing finally accepted the book, and so the 257 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: first volume of Mastering the Art of French Cooking published 258 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty one. Two. Just tremendous praise. That was 259 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: our trumendous praise. Noise. Yeah, it was probably much more 260 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: enthused than that. Yeah, yeah, that. There were like really 261 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: good reviews everywhere. Most people really liked it. It's old 262 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: a bunch. Paul had retired early from the Foreign Service 263 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a year earlier, and the childs were living in Cambridge, Massachusetts. 264 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Paul had designed the kitchen with Julia's tremendous collection of 265 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: cookery and equally tremendous sense of organization in mind. There 266 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: were outlines on the pegboard walls for every pot and 267 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: every favorite device, and magnetic strips on the walls for knives, 268 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and raised counters to accommodate Julia's height. That's awesome. Then, 269 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two, as Julia was working on volume 270 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: two of Mastering the Art of French Cooking, she was 271 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: invited to speak about it on local public television station 272 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: w g b H on a show about books, UM, 273 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: a live lit interview kind of show. She brought along 274 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: a few props and showed showed viewers how to make 275 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: an omelet. The station received twenty seven letters about it. 276 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: Seven it was it was unheard of at the time. 277 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: It was very it was very impressive. Um. The station 278 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: asked if she would consider filming a pilot for a 279 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: cooking series. The pilot was such a such a success 280 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: with their with their producers that they signed on for 281 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: twenty six black and white episodes of The French Chef, 282 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: which went into production in nineteen sixty three and would 283 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: continue filming on and off for nine years and over 284 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: two hundred episodes, eventually moving to color in nineteen seventy. 285 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: And it was a little bit ramshackle starting out. Um 286 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Paul took up various roles backstage. He was the sux chef. 287 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: He basically created all the museum, plus he did he 288 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: did most of the washing of the dishes. They eventually 289 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: had a volunteer crew members to help out, some half 290 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a dozen to a dozen women who Julia called her 291 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: associate cook and would introduce by saying, it's so much 292 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: more fun to cook with friends, don't you think? Oh, 293 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: I agree with that right. Um. To avoid the expensive editing, 294 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: they filmed these half hour episodes each in one continuous take. 295 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: But because troubleshooting was always part of Julia's kind of 296 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: concept as as a cooking teacher, they only ever had 297 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: to stop and reshoot maybe like half a dozen times. Ever, 298 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: that's astounding, I know. Uh child would turn mistakes into 299 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: into teaching moments. Um, Like when I when a gelatine 300 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: began losing its shape after unmolding, she said, never apologize. 301 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: Nobody knows what you're aiming at, so just bring it 302 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: to the table. So when the butter for a recipe 303 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: hadn't been taken out to soften before filming, she just 304 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: explained what to do when that happens. And of course 305 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: there's the famous potato pancake incident. During a flip, this 306 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: thing just escaped her pan and wound up on the 307 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: counter and she just sort of scooped it back in. 308 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: You can always pick it up. And if you're alone 309 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, who's going to see? She's not wrong? Right? 310 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: Why we've all done it? Wise and beautiful words. The 311 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: title The French Chef was chosen because it fit easily 312 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: onto a single line in the TV guide, I mean 313 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: makes sense. She didn't really like it. She she felt 314 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: badly about positing herself as either French or a chef 315 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: when really she was an American cook. Total difference. UM. 316 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: At any rate, the show was hugely popular. Child was 317 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: basically the first celebrity to emerge from public broadcasting, and 318 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: she was the first PBS personality to win an Emmy. 319 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: It was also the first show to include captions for 320 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: the hearing impaired, and it said that the popularity of 321 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: this basically made public television possible. Wow. Also, people seem 322 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: to have the idea that Child was often drinking during 323 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: filming UM, but Paul In one of the show's producers, 324 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Ruth Lockwood, maintain that that any antics that appear on 325 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: film are really just Julia being Julia and uh, and 326 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: they arose out of spontaneity. Lockwood once said, there's a 327 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: sort of rough script, but there's just no telling what's 328 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: going to happen. We always say it's the only real 329 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: suspense show on television. UM. Although Child often did appear 330 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: with a wine glass on camera, rumor has it that 331 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: the glass contained watered down gravy master a dark colored 332 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: sauce seasoning. She wasn't really drinking it. Okay, that's about 333 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: to say, is she dolling gravy? My world? That was 334 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: a strong stuff. And it's it's been suggested that that 335 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: all of this happened at just the right time. You know, 336 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: the the elegant Kennedy's were employing a French chef in 337 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: their white house kitchen. And there's still a little bit 338 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: of a post war Francophilia that was influencing American culture, 339 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: and and TV broadcasting technology and home TV set technology, 340 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: we're really coming into their own and and the American 341 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: zeitgeist was leaning towards these modern, exciting interpretations of of 342 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: physicality and sensuality, and and here was this woman showing 343 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: you that all of that was within reach and that 344 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: you didn't even have to be poised or perfect, you 345 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: just had to be willing to try. Within a couple 346 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: of years, the French Chefs was syndicated to over ninety stations, 347 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: and Mastering had sold hundreds of thousands of copies. It 348 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: was a legit phenomenon, and it was changing the way 349 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: that Americans thought about food and cooking. Speaking of technology, 350 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Julia embraced it. Gadgets electronic or analog, from non stick 351 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: pans to food processors to the microwave, anything that could 352 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: make things more simple or less laborious. She was in 353 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: four and she had always been a bit of a 354 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: gadget feet their stories of her just haunting shops around 355 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Paris and buying way too many things, filling up all 356 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: of their kitchens. Wasn't she a bit of a knife 357 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: fend as well? Oh yeah, they had hundreds. She had 358 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: like one she called the Monster or something. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, 359 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: she hasn't had a bag that all of her Oh 360 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: the sacred bag. Yeah. She would carry it around with 361 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: her on on or into into sets, and it would 362 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: have just these like essential items, like there was this 363 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: one measuring cup made of bone that she just really liked. 364 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: She was like, this one, this one is important. You know, 365 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: you have your go to things, I understand, but also 366 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: stuff like extension cords because you know, filmmaking you need them. Meanwhile, 367 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: the child had built a vacation home in Provence, which 368 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: they spent as much time and was allowed. She was 369 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: writing a lot, working on a book based on her 370 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: TV series and on Volume two of mastering at the 371 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: time she was struggling with cancer and Paul with various 372 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: cardiovascular issues. But but both of them just kind of 373 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: moved through it with the sort of joy de viv 374 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: that both of them embodied. She would wind up moving 375 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: away from her working relationship though with with Simca and Louisette, 376 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: and both of them had different ideas about how best 377 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: to work with recipes and even what French cooking really meant. 378 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: Julia also implied that her sudden fame in America made 379 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: her relationship with Simca tents, but she would wear a 380 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: badge from the cooking school that called a gourmand for 381 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: the entire run of The French Chef. After The French 382 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: Chef ended, Child would go on to do a number 383 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: of other shows for public television, preferring to quote stick 384 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: with the educators, and she would write companion books for 385 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: each of them. For a couple she actually filmed in 386 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: her own Cambridge home, necessitating a rig to be mounted 387 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: to the ceiling for lights. The two that I think 388 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: are particularly of note are The Way to Cook, which 389 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: is this extensive book from n nine with an accompanying 390 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: myriad of videotapes that have since been put on DVD. 391 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: There's like hundreds of chapters. It's great. Um. Also her 392 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: collaborations with other celebrity chef and a personal friend, Jacques 393 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: po penn Uh, including the nine ish series Julia and 394 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: Jacques Cooking at Home, in which they improvised their recipes. 395 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: That sounds so fun. Oh, they're they're terrific together. Like 396 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: they had this amazing banter on screen. They would you know, 397 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: if his back was turned, she would add butter. If 398 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: her back was turned, he would add are Like it 399 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: was really cute anyway, Um a child. Would also do 400 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: numerous cooking demonstrations at local colleges and on tour, both 401 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: alone and with folks like Jack. She sounds like she 402 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: was a very genuine person. She supposedly had her her 403 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: name and phone number in the local phone book in 404 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Cambridge and answered her her own phone. Her her publisher 405 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: was stunned by this. You know people. She said that 406 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: people like like locals would call in and ask her 407 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: for help with a recipe, and she would just give 408 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: it to them. She's like the first iteration of the 409 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: butter Ball hotline. Much I'm sure far superior. Well, I 410 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, Sorry, Butterball, I don't know 411 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: anything about it, but but perhaps perhaps less. I think 412 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: it's okay if you're less delightful than Julia Child. I agree, 413 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: she sounds very delightful. We have a few more delightful 414 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: tidbits about her, but first we've got another quick break 415 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor. 416 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: In Julia Child joined the CIA, no, not that one, 417 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: the Culinary Institute of America. She later became the first 418 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: woman inducted into their Hall of Fame. And this wasn't 419 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: the only award Child would receive, Oh no. She was 420 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: awarded the Lugean don Donneur from Jacques Papa in two 421 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: thousand and in two thousand three, George W. Bush awarded 422 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: her the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I'm not sure if 423 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: it counts as an award, but SNL did a sketch 424 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: of the French Chef with Child portrayed by Dan Ackroyd 425 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: in ninety eight in in the In the sketch, she 426 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: turns a slip of the knife into one of those 427 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: teaching moments, spraying the set with blood and walking the 428 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: audience through making a tourniquet out of like available chicken scraps. 429 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: It's it's real grizzly and real gross and hilarious. Julia 430 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: said that she loved it and kept taped copy of 431 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: the sketch by her television at all times. UM. She 432 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: also received an honorary doctorate from Harvard in after her 433 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: eightieth birthday. UM. The inscription was a Harvard friend and 434 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: neighbor who was filled the air with common sense and 435 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: uncommon sense. Long may her Souflet's rise. That's pretty excellent 436 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: good words. She donated two thousand, five hundred books and 437 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: other papers to the Library of Gastronomic Literature there, which 438 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: is the largest cookbook collection in the country, or at 439 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: least it was at the time, And thanks to two 440 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: thousand one donation from Julia, you can see the kitchen 441 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: Paul designed at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. 442 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: It's got three viewpoints and loads of memos, framed recipes, 443 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: various articles, and a television of course, playing her show 444 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: on a loop. In two thousand two, a blogger began 445 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: working her way through the entirety of mastering the art 446 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: of French cooking, which became the inspiration for a novel 447 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: and then the film Julie and Julia in two thousand 448 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: nine starring Meryl Streep. Her biography says it's Streep reincarnated 449 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: a child m HM. The relationship and marriage between Julia 450 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: and Paul is often pointed to as being ahead of 451 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: its time. Once Julia's show became successful, Paul supported her 452 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: in her career, testing all the recipes, acting as an agent, 453 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: washing the dishes, all those things we said. This was 454 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: unusual for the time. In Julia Child's own words, middle 455 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: class women did not have careers. You were to marry 456 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: and have children and be a nice mother. You didn't 457 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: go out and do anything. Paul's attitude toward the whole 458 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: thing could be summed up with this quote, how fortunate 459 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: we are at this moment in our lives, each doing 460 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: what he most wants, in a marvelous, marvelously adapted place, 461 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: close to each other, superbly fed and housed with excellent health. 462 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: He devoted most of his time to helping Julia succeed 463 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: in the later part of their lives in her endeavors 464 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: and um The New York Times wrote in a nineteen 465 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: seventy four profile of Julia Child that Paul suffered from 466 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: no apparent insecurities of may help you go. He would 467 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: tour with her, and at one press conference. At that 468 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: New York Times article references they were both encouraging newcomers 469 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: to cooking to be daring. Paul said they should not 470 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: be afraid of hard work. Julia said cooking wasn't really 471 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: hard once he mastered the essential techniques. Paul said that 472 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: mastering the techniques required much hard work. It just sounds 473 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: so cute, um, he would. He would pass away in 474 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: nine at the age of ninety two, and she would 475 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: follow ten years later. In two thousand four, two days 476 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: before her ninety second birthday, what was meant to be 477 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: a birthday party turned into a wake and a celebration 478 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: of her life before she died, though Julius at the 479 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: stage for one last public series of sorts. The Julia 480 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: Child Foundation for Gastronomy and the Culinary Arts. It's a 481 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: nonprofit based in Santa bar where Julia moved just a 482 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: few years before her death, and it makes grants and 483 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: awards to other nonprofits and schools and individuals to support 484 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: historical research and culinary training and food writing and food literacy. 485 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: And uh, we're we're kind of getting to the to 486 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: the wrap up point of the episode, if you couldn't tell, so, 487 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to do a quick shout out to two 488 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: of the sources that I drew on extensively for some 489 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: of this history. UM. One is a memoir that Julia 490 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: Child wrote with her grand nephew, Alex prulom Um, called 491 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: My Life in France. And the other is a biography 492 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: that Child came to like well enough that she would 493 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: actually sign copies of UM frequently alongside the author. It's 494 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: called Appetite for Life, and that's by Noel Riley Fitch. 495 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: There are really numerous biographies of her, including her relationship 496 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: with cats, but but those are the two that I 497 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: glommed onto. UM. And let's let's end with a quote. 498 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I find Julia Child just endlessly quotable. UM. I 499 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: found one from just before her death in two thousand 500 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: four from Time magazine that I think kind of sums 501 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: everything up. Food is very friendly. Just looking at a potato, 502 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I like to pat it. There's something so pleasant about 503 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: a big baking potato or a whole bunch of peas 504 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: in their shells. To me, the kitchen has never stopped 505 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: being a place just full of possibilities and pleasures. That's lovely. 506 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ge, I mean there's so much about her. Um, 507 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you're like me and you don't 508 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: know too much about her, there's so much out there. 509 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Um you can you can also, uh, you can watch 510 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: a number of her things on either PBS or YouTube 511 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: if you if you're so inclined. Um, and uh, I 512 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I I'm I'm a little bit for clumped. 513 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: Like I like, I don't usually get nervous before I 514 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: come into the studio, but I got genuinely nervous coming in. 515 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I was like, Julia is going to be listening, she 516 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: can hear me. I don't want to let her down. Um, yeah, 517 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's I find her very inspiring to watch 518 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: because she's so so just in control of everything in 519 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: a very wild and entertaining way. So if you haven't, 520 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen too much video ever, check her out. 521 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: Once you've seen a few episodes, maybe check out that 522 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: Dana Chroid skit. It's really great. Um and uh, yeah, 523 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: this brings us to mal I don't know why I 524 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: would have done something to that, but don't. Yeah, no, 525 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: it'd be terrifying. It could be the first one is, Oh, 526 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: it is about the tomato worm. Alicia wrote, I study 527 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: insects and thought I would fill you in on the 528 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: worm you discussed in your episodes about tomatoes. The tomato 529 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: hornworm is a hawk moth caterpillar that is fairly large 530 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: as far as caterpillars go, growing to over three inches. 531 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: It can make a bird sick if eaten, but it's 532 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: not poisonous to people and certainly doesn't spit poison. It 533 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: is closely related to the tobacco hornworm, which is used 534 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: as a model organism in research studies, like a fruit 535 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: flour mouse. There's a whole lot of research on them. 536 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: I think they are really cute and they grow well 537 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: eating artificial diets, so they make a great class project 538 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: for kids. Okay, I mean conflicting reports about I maybe 539 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: there's regional spitting varieties. I think if I had been 540 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: given a class project that would basically take care of 541 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: a worm, I would have been very excited at first, 542 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: like gross, and then then oh it's my buddy the worm. 543 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's how kids are. Oh definitely, yeah, I 544 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: got to I got to take care of some some 545 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: shrieking cockroaches what in elementary school? And it was it 546 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: was a great It was a great experience. That's crazy 547 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: to me. They just kind of squeak occasionally. It's they're 548 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: They're really cute. I like them. We also got a 549 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: response to our oyster episode, and I hope that I'm 550 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: saying your name right, Jacinta said. Mainly, I wanted to 551 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: write in about the oysters Kirkpatrick you mentioned in the episode. 552 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: Here in Australia we call them oysters Killpatrick, and they 553 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: feature commonly on menus and are an easy way we 554 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: think for cooks to prepare oysters. However, I've never seen 555 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: them done with ketchup. Here we have tomato sauce, which 556 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: is essentially catch up but much less sweet as we 557 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: usually make it with less sugar than catch up. Rather 558 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: every oysters Killpatrick I've ever seen both on menus and 559 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: prepared by home cooks, is with Worcestershire sauce and bacon. 560 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: There may also be spring onions, scallons, shallots. I don't 561 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: know which word is used in the USA, but here 562 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: it can be any of those and or cheese depending 563 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: on the recipe. But the bacon and Worcestershire sauce are 564 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: the requirements. They add a salty, mediumami flavor to the 565 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: oysters and can be a great way for novices to 566 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: learn to enjoy them, as they're slightly less intimidating than 567 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: oysters raw and they sound delicious. Oh yeah, and she 568 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: sent the picture and they looked delicien. They look delicious too. 569 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: Oh I'm hungry now, I know I end so many 570 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: of these episodes. Hungry almost everyone. Yes, Well, if you 571 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: would like to write us like these listeners did, thank you, um, 572 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: you can do so. Our email address as food stuff 573 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: at how stuff work dot com. We're also on social media. 574 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook and Twitter at food 575 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: stuff hs W and on Instagram at food stuff. We 576 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: hope so much that we'll hear from you, and we 577 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: hope that lots more good things are coming your way.