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Speaker 4: filling in for Kelvin Washington was off for a few

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Speaker 4: tomorrow for people wondering. So there you go. But let's

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Speaker 4: go here Solemn news. Today in the college football world,

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Speaker 4: Rob G. Lou Holtz passed away. It was the eighty nine,

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Speaker 4: eighty nine years old. Eighty nine years that's a long life.

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Speaker 4: But whenever you have a long life, you know there's

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Speaker 4: more things can happen, controversies, things that fill out your

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Speaker 7: That is very much true. They're gonna say the same

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Speaker 7: thing about Rob Parker in a couple of years that rock. Yes,

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Speaker 7: lou Holt's best known for, you know, leading Notre Dame

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Speaker 4: I thought of Lou Holtz today, it wasn't about him

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Speaker 4: It was the later stuff that really bothered me about him,

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Speaker 4: I'm always amazed that people have those kind of thoughts

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Speaker 4: I'm not here to rain on his you know, death

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Speaker 4: Lou Holtz, I could not think of him as the

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Speaker 6: And that's okay because that's that's his doing. And it's

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Speaker 6: not like you're kicking dirt on his grave, not alone.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'll say this, I immediately thought of

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Speaker 6: Hulk Hogan, right because when Hulk Hogan passed, I saw

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Speaker 6: the internet's reaction to that, and a lot of black

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Speaker 6: no well wishes to him, We're not celebrate and his

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Speaker 6: like remember what he said and what he did. Now,

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Speaker 6: I think you have to be a man of a

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Speaker 6: him as college game day and just being like a

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: And it's complicated, and we said it his life was

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Speaker 4: complicated because in the beginning there was a lot of good.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of good. And I'm with you

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Speaker 4: just because you get older, We've seen it. It happened

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Speaker 4: why is this hat? Why would you after all this?

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Speaker 4: But is it I don't know, Keith, is it that

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Speaker 4: whatever I want. I could say whatever I want. Nobody

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Speaker 4: I'm an old man. What are you gonna do to me.

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Speaker 4: You can't fire me, you can't reprimand me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say what I want. And maybe this is the way

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Speaker 4: he thought the whole way through. But he needed people,

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Speaker 4: He needed the minorities and the black people in order

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Speaker 5: It's really not for nothing. You maybe, I said, HAWLK.

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Speaker 8: Hogan.

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Speaker 6: You're talking about Lou Holtz in that manner made me

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Speaker 6: You can't change him. He's he's shown who he is

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Speaker 5: But it's not an excuse.

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Speaker 4: And you notice we're big Hulk Hogan fans and that

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Speaker 4: what I guess, rob g I'll get you here on this.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was him on television because that's how

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Speaker 7: And then even more recently, this is I didn't even mention

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Speaker 4: You wondered about that life, like really, like why would

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Speaker 4: Where are you on Lou Holtz? Michael in Florida? You're

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Speaker 2: What's up, Michael? How are you sit?

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Speaker 10: Eating guys?

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Speaker 11: Hey, good topic here. You just brought it up sore

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Speaker 2: And if you were black, Jesse Helms was not your friend.

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Speaker 10: Uh yeah, exactly, and then I'll go back. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you, ressing.

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Speaker 10: Piece of points. Unfortunately, he was a misguided soul. And

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Speaker 4: Govern You know what, Michael, We're never afraid to talk

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Michael Daniel in Alabama. You're on

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Speaker 8: What's up?

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Speaker 12: Problem? Well?

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Speaker 2: How about you doing great?

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Speaker 12: Hey man? I just want to say I'm a little disgusted. Honestly,

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Speaker 12: you're not saying that articles don't need to lead, that

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, we gave the story. We gave the

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Speaker 4: That's why they write obituaries, Daniel.

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Speaker 4: Did we mention did we mention him that he won

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Speaker 2: And oh, we gave you his record. We gave you

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Speaker 4: We talked about the whole story. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: Okay, there you go, racism and conservative in the same It's.

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Speaker 4: Not about just being conservative called what do you call immigrants?

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Speaker 2: What we heard. Thank you, Daniel. We wait.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 6: Even I mentioned I knew him from TV where he

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Speaker 13: You cannot leave it out, not if you're gonna do

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Speaker 13: six year the guy six years start, rest in peace,

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Speaker 7: Endorsed as a politician, opposed civil rights, disability rights, hello feminism,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, that's the that's the football coach.

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Speaker 7: You guys, you gotta tell all the information.

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Speaker 4: That's all eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Tim

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Speaker 15: Guys? Well, you know I'm from North Carolina. I grew

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Speaker 15: and they was like, it was not about that. Michael

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 15: And he still has not been forgiven in a lot

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Speaker 15: because that's how when Alabamicans started taking out black football

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Speaker 15: players until they got beat by USC the speed and everything.

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Speaker 15: So let's keep it real. Let's tell I know people

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Speaker 15: want to white watch the history of this country, but

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Speaker 15: it's here to say. And Lou Holtes and Bobby Bells

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Speaker 15: and all those yeah, they were great coaches, but you

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Speaker 15: know they made those things. They made those comments when

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Speaker 15: they left football, and it's a part of their story.

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Speaker 2: And that's just the way, a part of the story.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to them appreciate it. And that's all we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: It's not the entire story, but it's a part of

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Speaker 4: the story, and we refuse to act like it didn't happen,

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Speaker 4: because it did happen. All right, let's get you caught up.

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Speaker 4: Monty Bolanos is here with a update.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Manti a great night.

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Speaker 9: We appreciate you too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah.

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Speaker 2: No doubt appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: It is the couple on a worship Wednesday, Rob Parker,

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Speaker 4: Keith McPherson in for kelvin Washington, got a few days off.

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Speaker 4: Keith filling in and not one of my favorite people.

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Speaker 4: Love seeing him at the ballpark. He does a great

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Speaker 4: job for MOB network and he's an insider. Russell Dorsey

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Speaker 4: say hello to Keith McPherson, How are you, Russ?

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Speaker 8: What up? Guys? How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: George? What up?

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Speaker 12: Bro?

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Speaker 5: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 6: The three of us are like three of the only

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Speaker 6: brothers to be on MLB network, never played in the

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Speaker 6: show that never went pro.

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Speaker 8: Listen. That is an honor in and of itself, you

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Speaker 8: know what I mean. Like when you have the brothers

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Speaker 8: on the network and you didn't lace them up, that

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Speaker 8: means you're doing something right.

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Speaker 2: That's rare air, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the WBC, which has been a you know,

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Speaker 4: a good find for Major League baseball numbers are good, crowds,

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Speaker 4: people are into it.

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Speaker 2: Is this a.

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Speaker 4: Japan, the United States, Dominican Republic? What are we what

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Speaker 4: are we looking at here? Is this Japan's to lose?

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Speaker 4: Or can the United States win this?

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Speaker 8: Look, I think the team that I'm looking at and saying,

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Speaker 8: if they don't make it to at least the WBC Final,

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Speaker 8: it's a disappointment, it's the Dominican Republic. And I think

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Speaker 8: when you look at their lineup, it is as star

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Speaker 8: studded as.

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Speaker 2: Any like DTA Tigers, like a drum last night in

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Speaker 2: the exhibition.

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Speaker 8: You know what I mean. I know, I know you

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Speaker 8: people look at the that team, you'll say and say,

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Speaker 8: oh my god, they got Judge, you got cayl Raley,

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Speaker 8: Kyle schwar Over, Bobby I get it. But that Dominican

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Speaker 8: Republic lineup, if they play like they expect to play,

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Speaker 8: that's gonna be a tough out, regardless of if it's

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Speaker 8: a Japan or Team USA that has to go through them.

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Speaker 8: That's the team to me that I look at and

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Speaker 8: I say, this team has the most pressure of any

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Speaker 8: team in the field, including Japan. That's coming off with

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty three victory, including Team USA that lost to

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Speaker 8: Japan in the final. I think the Dominican Republic there's

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Speaker 8: so much pressure on them, just because from a watching

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Speaker 8: standpoint as a country, you know, it's a big deal

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Speaker 8: over there. Like I have Dominican friends and they tell

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Speaker 8: me how their families watch WBC when it comes around

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Speaker 8: every four years, like it's a thing. And they had

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Speaker 8: a bad showing in twenty twenty three and they're looking

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Speaker 8: to avenge that this time.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I remember a big poppy calling them

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Speaker 6: out saying they weren't ready to go, and they look

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Speaker 6: ready to go now they're vibing. But when I look

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Speaker 6: at the Dominican team, obviously they're stacked. Lineup is stacked.

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Speaker 6: Will they have the pitching this year, because the pitching

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Speaker 6: is so important. The pitching is what I think loses games. Like,

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Speaker 6: you know, the United States didn't have enough pitching this year,

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Speaker 6: like Trek Skubal will only pitch fifty five pitches in

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Speaker 6: one game. Do you think that the Dominican this year

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Speaker 6: has enough pitching to get them through.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Like, I think that's the biggest concern I have

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Speaker 8: with the United States is that they have you looking

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Speaker 8: on Paper, right, you have Trek Schoob, we have Paul Skins,

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Speaker 8: you have Nolan Claim like.

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Speaker 2: You have dudes.

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Speaker 8: But if Schoolball, who to me is the best pitcher

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Speaker 8: in the world, is only going to pitch one game,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you don't necessarily have enough to

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Speaker 8: get there. But for me, the Dominican Republican you have

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Speaker 8: Sandy Alcontada, right, you have him as being, you know,

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Speaker 8: the guy in that rotation, Brian Bay. You still have

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Speaker 8: Luis Severino, like you have legitimate starters. Christopher Sanchez is

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Speaker 8: going to be the eighth of that staff, and he

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Speaker 8: was one of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 8: last year. I think the Dominican Republic because I think

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Speaker 8: some of their guys are going to be able to

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Speaker 8: go longer in some of these games, even though it's

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Speaker 8: still spring training. Guys don't want to go too long.

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Speaker 8: I think that is going to be the reason that

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Speaker 8: I might take them over a team like Team USA.

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Speaker 2: Our guest is Russell Dorsey.

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Speaker 4: Of course MLB network analysts insider Russ Let me go here.

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Speaker 4: You just mentioned school Ball. Will he be traded at

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Speaker 4: the trade deadline? Because if I'm the Tigers, I don't

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Speaker 4: know what they're doing. You just talked about it the best,

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Speaker 4: you said, the best picture on the planet, or at

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Speaker 4: least one of them. Uh, they probably should just sign

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Speaker 4: the guy they went to arbitration, took a blood path

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Speaker 4: in that.

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Speaker 2: Does does he get traded if the Tigers are out

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Speaker 2: of it?

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Speaker 12: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Midway through the season.

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Speaker 8: Here's the thing, Rob, Like, you know the good people

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Speaker 8: of Detroit. I got a lot of family up there,

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Speaker 8: and the thing they always say is they want trek

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Speaker 8: School in Detroit, wearing the old English be long term.

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Speaker 8: And I think the Tigers would like that. But I

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Speaker 8: think you've gotten yourself to the point where it's gonna

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Speaker 8: be very hard to do that without going to the

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Speaker 8: off season and free agency to do it. But I

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Speaker 8: don't see it as him being traded anymore, because now

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Speaker 8: you're here and now there's nobody else to beat. You know,

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Speaker 8: in the American League Central, they are the team to beat.

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Speaker 8: And they went and got from Berveldez at the end

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Speaker 8: of free agency.

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Speaker 4: But he looked at I looked at that as the

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Speaker 4: backup plan to me, like, in case we gotta get

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Speaker 4: rid of him, we'll have a frontline starter for three years.

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Speaker 8: That's how you head if he leaves in free agency

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Speaker 8: for Rob. If the Tigers aren't the best team in

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Speaker 8: the American League, Tinchel, something went horribly wrong, Like there's

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Speaker 8: no reason they shouldn't win the Elkins of this season.

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Speaker 8: You think Cleveland's better than them, you think the Wilds

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Speaker 8: are better than them. I don't, no, I.

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Speaker 4: Get it, but it doesn't always work out like that

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Speaker 4: in baseball. I hear you, and you would think that

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Speaker 4: they'd have a good shot at doing that. I do

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Speaker 4: want to ask you ahead, Keith, you got one? I

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Speaker 4: got one?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'll bring it back to the World Baseball Classic. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: I'm a Yankees fan and a homer, and I think

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Speaker 6: that this does mean something for Aaron Judge playing in

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Speaker 6: this tournament as the captain, coming off a postseason where

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Speaker 6: he actually did show up five hundred critics. He silenced

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Speaker 6: a lot of critics, but at the same time there's

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Speaker 6: still people like, oh, he can't give a good hype speech,

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Speaker 6: like they're critical of it again. And so Russ, do

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Speaker 6: you think if he goes out there and performs well,

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Speaker 6: people will get off his back a little bit again.

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Speaker 6: And then if he wins something, then they can say

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Speaker 6: he is a champion. I mean, it's not the Yankees.

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Speaker 6: But if he wins something, they can't say he didn't

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Speaker 6: win anything in his whole career.

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Speaker 8: You know how you lovely folks in New York. You

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Speaker 8: know that's not gonna happen, right, They're gonna say it

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Speaker 8: didn't matter because it wasn't gains to counted and it

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Speaker 8: wasn't for the Yankees. Like it'll be cool to you know,

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Speaker 8: Like I think for me, some of these moments in WBC, No,

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Speaker 8: the games don't matter, but people are watching. The world

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Speaker 8: is watching. Like when show Hay struck out Mike dumb

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Speaker 8: in the WBC in twenty twenty three, that was an

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Speaker 8: elite baseball moment and it was to me the coronation

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Speaker 8: of show Hey is the best player in the world

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Speaker 8: taking the baton from Mike Trout, who was his teammate

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Speaker 8: at the time. So yeah, there are great moments that

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Speaker 8: you can have, and sometimes that launches you into the

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Speaker 8: season you're about to go into. For a lot of guys.

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Speaker 8: But no, I think if he USA is able to

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Speaker 8: win the WBC and Aaron Judge is the MVP of

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Speaker 8: the tournament, has a great showing, but the Yankees end

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Speaker 8: up not winning the World Series this year. I don't

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Speaker 8: think people are gonna be able to say, you know,

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Speaker 8: the Yankees didn't win the World Series.

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Speaker 4: But Aaron Judge, Hey Russ, I'm with you, ain't knowing

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Speaker 4: and that ain't gonna that ain't gonna fly.

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Speaker 2: You know it.

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Speaker 4: Here's another one, No way know how the columns is

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Speaker 4: for the New York Post who had an issue with

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Speaker 4: the Yankees retiring CC Sabbathia's number, which I cannot understand.

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Speaker 4: First of all, CC goes into the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Fame. How can you be a

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Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Fame and not have your number retired?

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Speaker 4: He won a championship for the Yankees, right He's in

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Speaker 4: the three thousand strikeout club. He won the ALCS MVP

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine, the last time they won

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Speaker 4: a World Series. Did that make sense to you?

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Speaker 8: No? No, it didn't. But I also know, uh the

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Speaker 8: columnists who wrote that.

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Speaker 2: Bill Bushnick say his name, Phil Bushton.

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Speaker 8: No, he will not.

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Speaker 12: He will not give me the saying same.

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Speaker 8: I won't even dignify him by saying his name. I

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Speaker 8: think it's one of those things that in our business,

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Speaker 8: you know, you have a lot of reporters that do

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Speaker 8: great work, a lot of columnists do great work, and

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Speaker 8: then you have a lot of people that stir things up.

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Speaker 8: And this is one of those times where somebody stirs

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Speaker 8: things up and it makes it harder for those of

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Speaker 8: us who are in the clubhouses every day talking to people,

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Speaker 8: really telling people what's going on. It's unfortunate, but anybody

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Speaker 8: who watches baseball knows that c Seed is not only

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Speaker 8: a first battle for Hall of Famer, but deserves to

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Speaker 8: get his number retired.

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Speaker 3: In New York one.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not taking anything away from Paul O'Neill who.

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Speaker 2: Got his number retire.

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Speaker 4: And I know he's a part of four World Series championships,

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Speaker 4: but he what he's not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame supersedes everything I just said. The

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Speaker 4: like it's lunacy, I don't know, crazy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think it's a multiplayer, right, Like when

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Speaker 8: you get into Cooperstown that there's there's it's hard to

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Speaker 8: get in for a reason, like you're in the elite

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Speaker 8: company and those who have played Major League Baseball and

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Speaker 8: so yeah, you're gonna get the nod over some people

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Speaker 8: who are deserving, but you know they're just they're not

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Speaker 8: Hall of Favors.

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Speaker 6: The same guy Phil Muschnick, Like I don't think he

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Speaker 6: writes so much anymore, Like he's not regularly you know, published,

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Speaker 6: And I want to say that he wrote an article

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Speaker 6: when Ricky Henderson passed saying that Ricky Henderson wasn't the

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Speaker 6: greatest base stealer.

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Speaker 5: And it's like, come on, bro, we know what.

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Speaker 2: You're going for.

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Speaker 6: You're going for clicks. You know you're trying to get attention.

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Speaker 6: Like I can't take you seriously.

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Speaker 4: I remember that, no doubt. All Right, Hey, I want

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Speaker 4: to put you on the spot. I know, I know

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Speaker 4: the season is about to start. Are you gonna tell

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Speaker 4: me anybody other than the Dodgers are coming out of

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Speaker 4: the National League for the World Series.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna be a tough right. I know people don't

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Speaker 8: like hearing that. They're really they were a really good

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Speaker 8: baseball team, right, And the two weaknesses that they had

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Speaker 8: corner outfield and a closer, they got both. They got

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Speaker 8: two of the best guys on the market. You can

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Speaker 8: make the argument they got the best closer and the

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Speaker 8: best position player available. This winner in Kyle Tucker and

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Speaker 8: Edwin Diez. It would be really good. I think the

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Speaker 8: one thing that it's always the issue for the Dodgers

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Speaker 8: when the rubberend meets the road is can they stay

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Speaker 8: healthy enough to get themselves through the end of October.

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Speaker 8: That's the big thing, because you're a show Hay injury,

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Speaker 8: a Blake Snell injury, a Mookie Betts injury away from

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Speaker 8: saying okay, we really have some problems. So I think

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Speaker 8: they have created a lot of depths, especially in that

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Speaker 8: rotation where you don't need five guys to make thirty starts.

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Speaker 8: You can probably have six or seven guys make twenty

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Speaker 8: to fifteen to twenty starts and be okay. But it's

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Speaker 8: trying to make sure you have the healthiest rotation you

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Speaker 8: can in October, which they did last year, and that's

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Speaker 8: how the end of win the World Series.

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Speaker 2: All Right, his name is Russell Dorsey.

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Speaker 4: Check him out MLB Network and listen inside of my man.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you, thanks for the knowledge, my brother, We

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Speaker 4: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: All Right, last calls coming up here on the odd couple.

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Speaker 4: If you want to get in and beat the last caller.

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Speaker 4: You might want to talk about Lou Holtz. You might

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Speaker 4: want to rip us bring it. You know what you

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Speaker 4: need to do though, what's up.

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Speaker 9: Rob stick and stay to find out just how many

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Speaker 9: types of GLIZZI Rob Parker has had in all.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

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Speaker 3: listen live.

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Speaker 4: It's a worship Wednesday here on the Odd Couple. Rob Parker,

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Speaker 4: Keith McPherson making this national radio debut here on the Couple,

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're gonna be thankful. Here we go, let

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Speaker 2: it breathe. You got a tea show for me?

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Speaker 4: And you know what it is now? Time for last call?

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Speaker 4: All right, let's call Sewan in Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are the last call here on the Couple.

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Speaker 2: Of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sean?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, oh mygo for but another mother cousin Keith and

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Speaker 14: my brother's behind the boy, Alex Man. You sounded good

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Speaker 14: back behind their baby. Hey you stop it, man, look

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Speaker 14: real talk though, man to that last caller. The reason

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Speaker 14: why Unk and Keith going on here and don't just

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Speaker 14: spit it on one side is because of guys like me.

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Speaker 14: When I think of little holts, I think of like

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Speaker 14: a football Dick Vitale, a fun loving guy with a

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Speaker 14: funny lisp. I had no idea he was on that

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Speaker 14: the other side of the fence. Man for me, a

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Speaker 14: person of color, a person born to immigrants to be

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Speaker 14: celebrating the guy's death, who possibly could give two f's

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Speaker 14: about me? You know what I mean? I need all

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Speaker 14: the information. It's called journalism.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 14: Listen to the radio, just hearing what you want to hear.

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Speaker 14: Get it mad because people are spilling the whole thing

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Speaker 14: out there. Listen to what Unk can keep her saying,

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Speaker 14: Digest it, and maybe you should change your own opinion

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Speaker 14: before you start ragging on everybody else. And to be

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Speaker 14: mad and saying, oh don't, don't, don't put conservatism inside

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Speaker 14: the same boat. As racism. This is worship Wednesday. The

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Speaker 14: X host was one of the biggest conservatives. Thank you

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Speaker 14: do your homework. And besides all that, the other host

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Speaker 14: is a Jewish guy. Of course he's conservative. Man, you

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Speaker 14: got to do your home. A couple of babies, Hank

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Speaker 14: and Keith Man. What a bang up show.

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Speaker 8: Keith with a pin debut.

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Speaker 14: Man, y'all keep it up. Can't wait for tomorrow. Brothers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, miss Sean. We appreciate that.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 2: I know. Keith was like, I don't get these kind

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Speaker 2: of calls in New York.

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Speaker 4: When you're getting these kind of crazy calls, my goodness, gration.

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Speaker 5: He cussed. I think we could cuss on here.

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Speaker 2: He cuss on air. He was going in.

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Speaker 5: He was big mad.

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Speaker 2: Well, it ain't get on the air for us.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're trying to keep off but exactly all that,

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Speaker 4: uh last thing we wanted to we got.

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Speaker 2: We don't have time to get there anyway. No, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to do that.

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Speaker 4: But Keith, we appreciate you coming through, uh filling in

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Speaker 4: for Alvin Washington again.

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Speaker 2: Keith will be back for show number two tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I know it's gonna be totally different because now you

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Speaker 4: got the feel for it right.

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Speaker 2: It was so different from what you're used to.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's different. We'll run it back room for improvement.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to everybody in the chat that we're showing love.

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Speaker 6: People watch the whole three hours, and I'm excited for tomorrow, man,

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Speaker 6: because after you do that first, when you get those

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Speaker 6: first reps, you're ready.

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Speaker 5: You're ready to go. I'll be ready, stay ready, so

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Speaker 5: you don't have to get ready, right.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Keith McPherson, Great job, man, Appreciate you, and the Odd

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Speaker 4: Couple will return tomorrow. The Jason Smith Show with Mike

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Speaker 4: Harmon is coming up next.

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Speaker 3: I never miss your radio show.

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Speaker 2: I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did

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Speaker 2: you hear that