1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome on in. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: It's off the edge of me your host Cam Jordan, 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: and as your host, I get to have phenomenal guests 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: on the pod. I'm so excited to get an Arizona legend, 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: a Chandler legend, a man who started off at Chandler High, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: finished at Hamilton High. And we'll talk about it. But 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: he's the president of faul Sohar University. He's a guy 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: who went to ASU and set all types of records, 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Hotowl Hero. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie Defensive Player of. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: The Year, seven time pro bowler, won Super Bowls not 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: only with the Ravens, but with the Chiefs, and the 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: future probably this year Hall of Famer. I'm talking to 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: existence already because I mean, he's got the accolades to 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: do it. 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: My guy, Terrell suggs akat Cecils. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation presented 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: by Toyota. 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Let's go places. Man. I appreciate you ten. You know 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I used to watch you. 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: I watched you as a running back over at the 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: channels at Hamilton. 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: I was gonna say. 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: High, but we get and say you don't claim Chandler, 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: and it hurts me to the core. 27 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: I claimed the city, right, we all Chandler, I claimed 28 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: the city. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's all love, 29 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: but we we this is the Huskies, man. I mean, 30 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure you heard about the game. How many years 31 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 3: are there? How many years would I wear? I was 32 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: at Hamilton one? So how many years were your Chandler two? 33 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: But I graduated from Hamilton? You gotta you just was. 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: I did two at Chandler and one at at Hamilton. 35 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: And when I first moved are Zon, I went to 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: Corona for a little bit and then I went to 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: camel Back. 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Yeah that was all all right, Yeah, it's true. 39 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: How many schools you go to the one that's winning. 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: The one is I mean, hey, we got the titles. 41 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: Man. 42 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: I graduated there and that's where the rivalry started. 43 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: So absolutely. 44 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: Man. 45 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, then you go to a su of course, you know, 46 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Sack records on Sack records. Man, it was a good time. 47 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: It's a good time. Of it was a good time. 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just you know, just like me, I 50 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: started off, you know and born in Minnesota, you know, yeah, uh, 51 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: he was born in Minnesota, as well, I was. 52 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: Born in Minnesota as well. It's connection all over all through, 53 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: that's all say. Yeah, I was a big Vikings fan 54 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: with your dad, Brad Jordan and them. But you know 55 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: they had that Tony Dungee defense maybe you know what 56 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that's when I started playing ball. Like 57 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: that Minnesota Vikings defense was iconic, you know, John Randall. 58 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Joey Brown back in. 59 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had del Rio, you know what I'm saying. 60 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: So we had some guys up there, man, and then 61 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: we got Randy. 62 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: So no doubt Randy, Randy Mossa, Chris Carter, that Chris Carter, 63 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely. 64 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, Minnesota and team surprised. They ain't want those Super 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: Bowls yet. 66 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: They they're just like I did. We got to n 67 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: C Championship and hurts. 68 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it hurt. 69 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: That hurts hurts. That's why you know, I just tin 70 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: you're playing seventeen. We may have to find two more. 71 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: You know, you just gotta you gotta get it away. 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: It's getting good, man, man, you gotta get it way 73 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: of getting good. 74 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I'll say. But then you got to go home and 75 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: play for the Cardinals. 76 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: Oh man, you know how that it's good to go 77 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 3: play for your hometown you know what I mean teams 78 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: that I mean, Yeah, you have fans that like grow 79 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: up that watched you in high school and then you know, 80 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: I went to a s U, so, uh, they watched 81 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: me in college. It's good to kind of like ride 82 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: off in the sunset like front of the whole time. Yeah, 83 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: in your hometown city. So that's pretty cool. 84 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: You just just you know, go from from growing up 85 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: there to yeah, I played for everything in Arizona. 86 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah I played. That's that's pretty good. Yeah, went to 87 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: high school college and you know, played in the Cardinals 88 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: for a little bit, and then you know, went to 89 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: Kansas City when the. 90 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, when there's another super Bowl to go just 91 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: ride off in the sunset. Yea. 92 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: They say, quitting while you're ahead is not necessarily quitting. 93 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, man, I I could understand it. I don't 94 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: know when the Super yet, but I can understand it. 95 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: Stay in there. 96 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: I got two, I got two one. 97 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: Oh man. I ain't gonna say it's better than seeing 98 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: your baby being born. Yeah, but it's close. It's it's close, man, 99 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: It's a it's an unimaginable feeling. 100 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's. 101 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: In fact How did it feel like playing in Baltimore 102 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: Week two, twenty nineteen with the Cardinals. 103 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh, man, go back to the beginnings. 104 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: It was. It was very I was very like emotional 105 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: going into the game, but I was like, you know, 106 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: we competitive. I wanted to win. I wanted to win bad, 107 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But you know they got it. 108 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: That was Lamar's first MVP year, you know what I'm saying, 109 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, Like he was the 110 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: best player in the league that Yeah, you saw me 111 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: practice league, yeah, first inter league Yeah, and you saw 112 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: him on adversary Like that jump that he made was 113 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: just like whoa right, Like I never I mean the 114 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: only jump I seen like that was JJ Watt when 115 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: his rookie year he had five sacks and did his 116 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: sophomore year he had twenty two. I was like, damn, 117 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I probably need to go down there and 118 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: work out with him. But if I'm in Houston, I 119 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: ain't gonna be doing no working out man. I mean, 120 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: I'm just keeping a man like Houston the greatest city 121 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: on earth to me, Oh my god, I'm like, dude, 122 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: if I go out there, I ain't gonna be working out, 123 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: it's probably best. Like God knew what he was doing 124 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: when he sent me to Baltimore. He didn't send me 125 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: to Miami, didn't send me to Atlanta or Houston Dallas. 126 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: Like nah, man, were sending your ass to Baltimore. Yeah, 127 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: he's gonna sit your ass down somewhere. 128 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: You know, absolutely all right, So I probably already know 129 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: this question. But which one do you value more? Baltimore 130 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: Ravens or the Chiefs Super Ravens. Yeah, I mean Ravens 131 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: throwing through. But you know, I thought we could get 132 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: to because it was the last season Ravens throwing through. 133 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: But I when I got took Kansas City, you know, 134 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: you's a new team, I'm like, you know, like curious, 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: like seeing how it's gonna go, because it did become 136 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: like a little rivalry over the years. And I see, 137 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: I seen why the two teams class because they so alike. 138 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You never crossed paths without 139 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: a couple of things in common. And like the locker room, 140 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: it was so relaxed. And you know that organization when 141 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: they value their players like that, that's when you're gonna 142 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: get good production. Like on the field, you know what 143 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: I mean when the front office in the locker room 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: is in Unison, you know what I'm saying, when you 145 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: got that going, magical things that happened, and like when 146 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: I got there, it wasn't it was it was just 147 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: different people, but it was the same kind of like team, 148 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: same team atmosphere. 149 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: It was dope. You know. 150 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: We had the Tyreek Hill we in the locker room, 151 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: you know, hooping before practice. You know what I'm saying. 152 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: It's like you can't play hard you get hurt in 153 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: the locker room like that. Everybody like yeah, like everybody 154 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: days would be numbered. So we you know, we just 155 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: had a little fun games in the locker room. And 156 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: in Kansas City we was playing basketball. In Baltimore's playing 157 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: corn hole like every day, you know what I'm saying, 158 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: like getting after it straight up competitive tournaments and stuff. 159 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: So when you have a good lax locker room and 160 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: and your front of office is like being like, ain't sink, 161 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: great things happen, man, And that's why those two organizations win. Mann. 162 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: I was like, you talk about get hurt. You the 163 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: reason why I stop playing basketball in. 164 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: The off season. Oh man, you gotta gotta be careful. 165 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: That's a rumor, though we're not gonna confirm nor deny 166 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: anything right concerning that, you know what I mean, you 167 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: could have been anything anything. Yeah. 168 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: Look I remember, I remember you coming. I was like, 169 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, Yeah, I was like, you 170 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: know what, guys lay up. 171 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: And out you got you gotta just you know, keep 172 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: it simple, man. They'll do too much. Man, don't don't 173 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: over exude yourself. Absolutely, man. But even then you came back, 174 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: You're not like you popped your kellys twice about twice man. 175 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: And I've never, like god willing, I'll never I'll never 176 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: go through that, man, Like I had hurt, so like 177 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: you come that real? 178 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was hard and you really have 179 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: to decide your pain tolerance. And it was like when 180 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: I did the first time, it was like I knew 181 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: we were on the brink. You know what I'm saying. 182 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: We just lost in the AFC Championship, you know what 183 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I knew we were close, and I was like, nah, 184 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let them do it without me, So 185 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: I can't leave me behind, Like I'm not gonna let 186 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: them do it without me exactly. And so I just 187 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: I just worked as hard as I can to get back, man, 188 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: like me and the trainer. 189 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, came back, made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, made the 190 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl playing back. Yeah, computers and like somehow y'all 191 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: break down and get stronger on the road. 192 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, it was. 193 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: It was like a good like validation that, like after 194 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: coming up at work like that and then come back 195 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: and make a Pro Bowl like that was pretty dope. 196 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Jesus. Yeah, keep keep like whatever it is, gonna keep hiking, guy. 197 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you got to especially, you know, when you're young, 198 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: like I was like twenty nine when I popped it. 199 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: So when you're under thirty, your body still can regularly 200 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: like pretty fast, you know what I'm saying. But when 201 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: you get to that thirty and up man, them them 202 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: Monday's Wall, they be hurt. 203 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: I want to think about the uh you know, the 204 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: the Ravens uh and the AFC. You know the rivals 205 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: that you guys have. The whole division hates everybody, and 206 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: I can't I can't get it. The Ravens don't like 207 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: the Steelers and also don't like the Browns, and they 208 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: also don't like the Bengals. You can't hate everybody, got 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: to that, man, But you see a lot of you 210 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: see you see a lot of Ravens become Steelers, or 211 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: a lot of Steelers become the Browns. 212 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: Like, there's a lot of that. Patrick Queen thing was 213 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: like mine. I was like, oh he went not only 214 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: to the in the side of the division, but you 215 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 3: hate division. 216 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: And rival, Like, oh my god, you can't be a 217 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: rival if you keep going to different teams. 218 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Is Joe Flacco know he played for everybody in the 219 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: North man, when he go to the Steelers, I'm write 220 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: them off. I'm like, I never talk to you again. 221 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Finally, Okay, the Steelers the one you can't go over. 222 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: You cannot have you. 223 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Pat McQueen hurt that, that hurt. That hurt. 224 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: I was like, no, I understand. You know us as players, 225 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: when your time is up, when your time is to 226 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: go to that bank, cast that check, you want the best, 227 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: the best deal. But that would have hurt that you 228 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: don't hit the same God exactly exactly, like I don't 229 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: get it, but you're right. In that AFC North, everybody 230 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: hate each other. 231 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: Allegedly there's too much hate. 232 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: But Cleveland have a genuine beef because with you know, yeah, 233 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: Baltimore used to be we used to be their team. 234 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: So just they Auguden's supposed to be a Cleveland Brown, 235 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: ray lewis supposed to be a Cleveland Brown, and Reed's 236 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: supposed to be a Cleveland Brown. Me myself, Helloi like 237 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: Cleveland is like they kind of like look at us, 238 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: Like the girlfriend. I'm saying exactly, you know what I'm saying, 239 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: he left me exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like 240 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: that's how Cleveland see us. Say I'd be like, I 241 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: get it, I get it. 242 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't And it's like, you know, they ain't got 243 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: no super Bowls. We got two. 244 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: You know. 245 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's not a Super I mean that's 246 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: pretty much summits in my mind. For whatever reason, the 247 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame numbers like and he's a super Bowl winner, Yeah, 248 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: but that doesn't make him a great player. 249 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: That's a great team. That's a great team, Hall of Fame. 250 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: Some guys that have just almost on the cusps shouldn't 251 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: really just good players become all of a sudden, the 252 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 253 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: Players super Bowl team And I'm like, you're not the quarterback, 254 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: Like that's not a judging stat for you. You Like, 255 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: there's a lot of Super Bowl winners. That's not Hall 256 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: of Fame, correct, you know what I mean? 257 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: And then there's guys like, oh yeah, he's notable. It's like, 258 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: you know, five six Pro Bowls and the Super Bowl. Wait, 259 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: but he's a he's a defensive player. Okay, I don't 260 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: get it. 261 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: But in terms in terms of the Hall of Fame, 262 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, the case that everybody's claiming. 263 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: I mean, in my mind, you should have been in. 264 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: But that's yeah, hey they played it. They got it 265 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: wrong last year, but hey they're gonna do it right 266 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: this year. Absolutely do it right this year. We feel 267 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: him good about it. 268 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: I would say, just the dynamic that you had between teammates, right, 269 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: Like if you say my favorite teammates to Mario Davis, 270 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: he was a dog when I first came to the league. 271 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: It was John Vilma, Roman Harper, you know, certified monsters 272 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: you had. 273 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: It was you Ed Reed, ray Lewis. I mean, just 274 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: the rapport there, the dynamic who's big bro, who's little bro? 275 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: Well, definitely you know ray Ed or both of the 276 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: big bros. You know what I'm saying, hands down, you know, 277 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: I mean, they they like the patriarch at a family. 278 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying like we go as they go. 279 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: There, we go as they go. So it definitely didn't. 280 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: But you know, it's a lot of guys that don't 281 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: really get mentioned that are through and through Ravens and 282 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: held like HELLOADI you know what I'm saying, Kelly Gregg, 283 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Uh, One of my favorite 284 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: teammates was Bernard Pollard, Like I loved him, Like Big 285 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: Shannon shot Man. I wouldn't play with Shannon like Shannon 286 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 3: was before me. Yeah, yeah, but I do love to he. 287 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: I mean you could tell he was a Raven through 288 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: and through. Yeah, Jared Johnson, Like we we had guys. 289 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: We had guys, man, and like I'm grateful for all 290 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: of them because it was like I think Ozzie News 291 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 3: did a great job of like identify who's a Raven. 292 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, especially in our golden years, 293 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's like I loved 294 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: all my teammates, man, we had all we we we 295 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: all are guys. Like majority of the people I played 296 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: with straight up Ravens are like locker room guys you love. Yeah, 297 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: they fit in on any team. 298 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 2: Speak of locker room culture moments like you have a 299 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: welcome to the Ravens like culture you all world, you 300 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: get in and you. 301 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: Got big dogs. 302 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I would say when I first reported the camp, 303 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: raid hit me in the face with a pie on TV, 304 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, you didn't 305 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: get the camp on time. So there was a pie 306 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 3: in my face. Man. So that was definitely it and 307 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: definitely probably my first time going up against Jo and 308 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 3: I finally realized I'm like, yeah, I'm not the big 309 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: dog anymore. I'm just in college, you know what I mean. 310 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: Like I don't remember like in college, like especially in 311 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: my last year, I don't remember losing like a past 312 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: us drill and I mean and in the one on 313 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: one pass rush or like doing team periods, like I 314 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: don't remember when I got to Baltimore going against Jail, 315 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: I didn't win one. So it was just like I 316 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: got the best teacher right now, I got the best 317 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: practice and welcome to the NFL ever right in the world. 318 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: So I say, did ja dog, Like did he give 319 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: you like game as you were going? 320 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: Or but you know, like Jo was a big, gentle giant, 321 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: didn't raise his boys, but he was just he lined 322 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: up and he was the best. You know what I'm saying. 323 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: So he was like he should try this. 324 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: You did that first training camp, like training training camp. 325 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: Like don't you know like on the dark Night when 326 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: Bain is like beating him up, got Batman and talking 327 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: to him the whole time. That's like Jail. That was 328 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: me and jo every time we begin like, no, you 329 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: can't do that up here. You can't do that up here, 330 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: young like trun down trying to do all my little movies. 331 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: I ain't finna do all that with you, Like like 332 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: Jao was just just good effort, effortless, you. 333 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, right, I said that, that's crazy. 334 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: I mean I remember my rookie year. I was going 335 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: against Zach Streef. I was like, you know, I'd win 336 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: some I'd lose something whatever it was. I was like, Yo, 337 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: how could I get better? He's like, I'm not helping you. 338 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Man. 339 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: Training He's like, I'm not helping you. Like we'll talk 340 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: about this after training camp, like you're I've seen you 341 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: every plane. Yeah, there's nothing in this world that's gonna 342 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: make me help you. 343 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, he wasn't threatened by anybody, 344 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: so it was just like oh, No, that's that move's 345 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: not gonna work up here. Young. I'm just I'm gonna 346 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: keep it honest. 347 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: Jah before you swipe. Yeah, like yeah, j O Jail 348 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: was that he was the man man, right, Yeah. 349 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: That's what I'm over here. Like, dang, he helped from 350 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: Jump Street. He's like, once we get the season, I'll 351 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: help you. So this week one he's like, yeah, don't 352 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: thro that. You gotta throw something else. 353 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Got it, got it? 354 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: Got yeah? 355 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 356 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: Now ja O was he's the man, the man all right. 357 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Think about this year, you know, uh, this year is 358 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Ravens defense. Okay, you know how they doing overall? They do? 359 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: They started out last year, yeah, they was balling last year. 360 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: This year, we don't know what the hell was going 361 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: on the first game Yeah yeah, and we brung in 362 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: you know, the young kid Malachi starts. Yeah. So I 363 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: think it's starting to slow down for them now. I think, 364 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: you know, just jeling and chemistry. Wives, Like, I don't 365 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: feel like we was on the same page at that 366 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: first part. 367 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. First. 368 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now after the bye, it seems like they may 369 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: have got it fixed. But we'll see. We still got 370 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: to play. We still have to playing Cincinnati. You know, 371 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: we got. We still gotta play Jamar Chase. I think 372 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: he averaged like two fifty on us last year. 373 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: No doubt. 374 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: So we definitely row. 375 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow maybe back. 376 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: Is he may be back. But you see Joe Flako 377 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: over there slinging that thing, and he would love, he 378 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: would love to come back to Baltimore and just light 379 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: it up like Joe Din had a few games. We 380 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: did have four hundred yards four tubs. Right he out there, 381 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: he out there throwing, forty two years old, out there 382 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: talk playing. 383 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: He's playing. 384 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: So now now we got a problem one of our 385 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: own for to come up in here with a deadly receiver, 386 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, receiver t Higgins. Both of them, yes, 387 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: both of them are problems. 388 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: Problems. 389 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, who do you think winning that game? 390 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: I gotta go with the Rayvens. I gotta go with 391 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: the in Baltimore. I will go with the Raymonds in Cincinnati. 392 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be. It depends on who shows up, 393 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Are we gonna have the 394 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: defense that we've been playing the past few weeks or 395 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: the first one, you know what I mean, the first 396 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: few weeks. So we see who shows up. 397 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, we can work with that. 398 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's get to these good old AFC 399 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: rival not ac rifle topics. I think that's where I 400 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: want to go next, is uh my favorite part, just 401 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: talk about straight ball. I'm gonna ask you questions about 402 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks you've sacked in your career, and you can give 403 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: me the career. You know your answer to this? You 404 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: know how many quarterbacks you've sacked in your career? 405 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: Do I know how many? 406 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: How many? 407 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: Like, I've sacked fifty quarterbacks? 408 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: No? I thought that was a lot. 409 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: No, I did not know seventy eight. I sacked seventy 410 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: eight quarterback. 411 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, oh good, that's crazy. 412 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: I was like, dang, I was like, I checked fifty quarters. 413 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: You know how many that is? Seventy eight is wild? 414 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. 415 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Name the first quarterback you sacked in your career? It 416 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: was Pittsburgh with it? Who is it? 417 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: Brunell, Tommy Maddick, Tommy Maddox, Tommy Maddox. That I knew it. 418 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: I knew, I knew it was I was I see 419 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: this guy. Yeah, I say it almost all out. 420 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: I almost got the ball out. I hate that. 421 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: I used to. I used to get yelled at, like, oh, 422 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: I mean they was happy for me. That was my 423 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: first one, but everyone after that, like I was just 424 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: tackling the quarterback ray Lo. It was like that's not 425 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: good enough. Get the ball out, get the ball out. 426 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: So we want the ball, Yeah, we want the ball. 427 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: But I mean the ball was coming out. 428 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: It was coming out. It was coming out. 429 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: How you better than that, Like if the ball was 430 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: coming out, he just regripped. 431 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: Right right, he just you know, he got lucky and 432 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: fell on it probably you know what I mean. But wow, 433 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: that was the first one. I have so many of those, 434 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: like like the quarters or like I hate when like 435 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: you hit him as the throwing and somebody catches it, 436 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: so it's not a sack. Phone with nomore, it's an interception. 437 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, this Tommy Medick sat When did 438 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: it happen? 439 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: That's opening day two thousand and three. 440 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: The first quarter? 441 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, quarter, first quarter. 442 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like in the red zone. We just 443 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: dropped him and I'm here to stay. Yeah. That was 444 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: like in the red zone too. Oh man, that great one. 445 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: That some nostalgia going back then. The last quarterback you 446 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: sacked in your career Philip Rivers. 447 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: Is that right week seventeen, Philip River twenty nineteen, Yeah, 448 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: Philip Rivers, that's when I that's when I passed my 449 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: is wareing the Marcus Wade was there too, you know, 450 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: you being there and I'm way in his ninety four. 451 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: N Yeah. Uh foe. Can you name the top five 452 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: quarterbacks you sacked your career? Uh? 453 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manny. 454 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Uh do you know who's sacked the most? And yeah, 455 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: there Ben Roethlisberger. Okay, yeah, I know that. 456 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 6: I know that. 457 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: Second on the list, Uh, who I sacked them? Anybody 458 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: from Cleveland? But no, probably Carson Palmer. 459 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: Could be the right team and he did play for us. 460 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: Isn't edtie Andy Dalton boom wow wow? 461 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: And then and then you're tied with all the guys, 462 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: you know, the Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, phild Rivers, right down. 463 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: The hill, Blake Bortles Okay, okay, yeah, ain't good. 464 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 3: But it was always the problem for us. 465 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: Say, look that that Matt Ryan, just because it's close 466 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: to me. 467 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, Matt Ryan met Maran is a 468 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: good guy, you know, like he's he's gonna be forever 469 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: good in my book and apparently yours too. Right, first one, 470 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: he's the most I've ever seen. Uh, you know, you've 471 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: sacked the guy seventeen times. 472 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I've sacked Matt Ryan twenty three times. 473 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy. I was like, yeah, you're gonna 474 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: hold on to that ball now, this headlock, Yeah, that's 475 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: a flag today, But definitely a flag. That whole that 476 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: whole play is a flag today. I might be suspended. 477 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: Like they they they got they they they treat these 478 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks. 479 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Man, Look this tells me you you gave everything. Oh man, 480 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Like he was standing there was a hippie shoulder go. 481 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: You know he has like a little rivalry between him 482 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: and Joe because they was in the same draft. So 483 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: whenever we played them, you know, you got to have 484 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: your your brother's back. Yeah, and so we were trying 485 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: to We're definitely trying to do some things to them. 486 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We got we got our 487 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: boys back. Now. 488 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: Right, out of all the quarterbacks, who's the hardest to sack? 489 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: You can't say Ben Roethlisberger because you shocked him seventeen times. 490 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: Who's the hardest? Vic Michael Vick Like, yeah, Michael Vick, 491 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: because you had you had Atlanta Mike too. I had 492 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: Atlanta Mike. I had Atlanta Mike. So Michael Vick was 493 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: very difficult for the simple fact that he loved to 494 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: play backyard football. Like he can send to you and 495 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 3: he's like oh, and it's like excuse me. And it's 496 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: like people don't understand, Like like Vic got kind of 497 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: like vilified for the way he played. They you know, 498 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: off itsive coordinator. They he's supposed to be a pocket quarterback. 499 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: I want him to let the play developed. I'm like, Doug, 500 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: you got a quarterback that can get you in the 501 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: team out of trouble. 502 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Rights. 503 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: That's and now they're seeing it now now it's like 504 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: he was the glimpse of evolution. Yes, yes, absolutely. It 505 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: started with you know, they would say Randall cutting him. 506 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 3: You know, he was a very fast, you know, uh 507 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: it lousive quarterback. But Michael Vick is it, you know, 508 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: with the proper type. 509 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: They did say that about Doug Flutie, like yeah, you 510 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, or Steve Young stiling for his life. 511 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And they was like, oh, 512 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: he's he's a scrambled, a good athlete, but they were 513 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: Michael Vick was doing it. It was like, oh, he's 514 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: like you don't let the play develop long enough. I'm like, no, 515 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: that boy out there dangerous. That boy out there danger 516 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: He won like a whole playoff game by himself. Yeah, 517 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, it was the Vikings. 518 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: You know, we all saw that, and he went up 519 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: there and be who was it was? It was it 520 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 3: Philly when they was like the top dog. I think 521 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: it was like victim. 522 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: There was a time when it was him, Algie Crumpler, 523 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: I think Mike. 524 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: Turner, Michael burn and Turner. Yeah, that team was dangerous. 525 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: They had rowdy white Yeah yeah, yeah, crazy rowdy. They 526 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: had rowdy and I think I don't think. I don't 527 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: think who. 528 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: This is? This is this younger, Yeah, this is younger. Yeah, 529 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, they was dope. 530 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: Now it was going absolutely fed. All right, who's the quarterback? 531 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: You wish you would have gotten? 532 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback? I wish I would have got. 533 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 534 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever. There wasn't one that I 535 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: didn't that I didn't get, Like, I think I got 536 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: them all. 537 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: I didn't get Peyton. 538 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: I never got no. I played like when I first 539 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: got in when it was at Indian Napolis. I think 540 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: it was his last year. He had the neck injury, 541 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: so it was like Carpenter or whoever took over for 542 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: And then I saw him in Denver and they had 543 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: me playing like. 544 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: The nose technique and there was no shot, bro. 545 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: We were playing this this automatic front where I was 546 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: like playing a three technique but I have to slide 547 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: to a nose. I think it was like last like 548 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: mcgahee's like greatest game as a dinner Bronc. 549 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: They were for like two something. I remember. 550 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: I was like, I remember looking at Cedric Ellis our 551 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: detail all the time. I was like, said, don't let 552 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: me switch to the nose. He's like, play your position, bro, 553 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: And I never. 554 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: Forget him that. I was like, Bro, you can't. I 555 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: was two hundred and eighty pounds. I'm not meant to 556 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: slide to a nose. 557 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: And this was when they were still in too times. 558 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: They played real running running exactly that power double T. 559 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: It was I'm looking I'm looking at him like help me, 560 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: and he's like he's like this, play your spot, bro, 561 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: play your spot. Bro, He's like and not even know. 562 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. He's like, you just got to do it. 563 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: He's so out, he sold you out, Like this is 564 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: not winning. 565 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm a four eye, I'm a five, I'm a six, 566 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm seven. I'm not a three. 567 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: Not down there. Yeah, you're like you you're a big nose. 568 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: You go get one, you go get one. You get 569 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: somebody to do that. Don't be doing it. You know 570 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm on this edge, man, life is good. 571 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm trying to be an edge. Yeah, 572 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be They want me at a four eye. 573 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm a proved that I'm edged. Like I said, it's 574 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: noisy in there, man, it's noisy down there. 575 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 576 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: Would you last, what would you consider yourself more of 577 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: a defensive end or outside linebacker? 578 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: I consider myself more defensive end. Okay, you know what 579 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 580 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: So you had a lot of drops in. 581 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: There, Yeah, I considered myself a defense in but like 582 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: you know, we played three four Yeah you're yeah, so 583 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: it was pretty much like drops and all that like 584 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: mixed in. But I consent myself. 585 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's right. 586 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: That's why I throw the divide him like I'm like, 587 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: if you're a four eye to a seven defensive end 588 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: like you if you were if you are. 589 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: Seven to a nine yeah, like olb yeah you straight 590 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: up off outside linebacker. 591 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: Yeah okay yeah. I was like, you know, back back then, 592 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: it's like, oh he's dropping. I was like, I don't 593 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: know why they got him dropping. Yeah, it's just kind 594 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: of just to switch it up. Yeah, so you know, 595 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: they never know what the back don't know he's always coming. 596 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 2: He's always dripping it just to kind of throw it off. 597 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: You know, they all think they genius is offensive coordinator 598 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: or whatever. I was like, de coordinator always want to 599 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 2: be like, hey, gets you in the position. Best position 600 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: is dropping to a hook so flat. 601 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah quarter flat man, I don't even know what that is. 602 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 603 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: You figure that out? 604 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Like all right? Cool? Like I guess I guess it 605 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: throws out Like they don't know where I'm at. 606 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: Just talk about longevity because now I'm thirty six, you know, 607 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: thirty thirty five, thirty six. 608 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: Nice. 609 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: They look at you like you old. I'm like, bro, 610 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm leaning the driver. 611 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: I feel good to be that young. 612 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Trust me, you took pride. 613 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: In being downin late to your career where you know, 614 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: seventeen eight, seventeen seasons, and of course we talked about 615 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: the two Achille tears one, twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, you know, 616 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. 617 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Come back to twenty sixteen. 618 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: Have you know eight sacks at thirty five you had 619 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: eleven sacks, thirty six seven sacks? You know you finished 620 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: You finished the last season with six and a half, 621 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: you know at thirty seven? 622 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Lower Yeah, put it bad back, put it bad back. 623 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, nothing's clean. 624 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: Nothing's clean. 625 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: I'll say, how'd you do it for thirty six and 626 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: thirty seven? Bro oh man? 627 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: Like you really have to. You really got to take 628 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: control of your diet, like you just can't eat anything anymore. 629 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: Those days, I'm saying, those days are over, you know 630 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. It's really you have to be on 631 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: a real strict diet and cut out like sugar man. 632 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Like I was like on a strik water diet. Like 633 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 3: my last two years was like I didn't drink no sodas, 634 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: no juice. It was just like water, you know what 635 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Just so I could recover fast, you know, 636 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: I mean, you know you'll have your muscles hydrated and 637 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: all that. So I got on a real streak like 638 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: water diet and I cut out me. So I think 639 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: that helped waste you pescatarian I went. I tried to 640 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: go vegan, but I wasn't giving up cheese. I was like, nah, 641 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna give up meat. I ain't 642 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: giving up cheese, so and they was like and then 643 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: I still needed protein. So I had to get back 644 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: into eating like shrimps and lobsters and stuff like that. 645 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: But it was like, I don't eat. I gave up 646 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: meat like my last two years. So that helped commit. 647 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 6: Man. 648 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: That help. 649 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: I could almost give up a red meat situation. But 650 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: the way Lamb calls. 651 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Me man, that stuff is nice. Especially you know, we 652 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: got a football game in Madrid. I had some Lamb 653 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: out there and I was like, oh, choy man at night, 654 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: just cut right through it. It was nice and lean, 655 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: it was. It was great, you know Lamb chops especially 656 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: at like Mastros, you know what I'm saying or something. 657 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Mass shirt that's the one in Scott's Deale strictly there. 658 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: But we need to get to dessert. 659 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: The butter case. I forgot about that. I ain't had 660 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: that in like a year or years. I gotta go 661 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: probably No, no, you don't. 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