Speaker 1: Hey, we're slowly making Tuesday your favorite day of the week.
Speaker 2: One week at a time.
Speaker 1: Hey, you found the Second Date Update podcast. Thank you
Speaker 1: for being here at Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1: But today is always your awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you guys love it.
Speaker 2: I think I know.
Speaker 1: I mean the stats say yes because it's always one
Speaker 1: of the most downloaded of the week. So that is awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. It is unlike
Speaker 1: any we've ever done before. I will say that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is different, different than possibly illegal. But we
Speaker 1: need to get to some listener comments first.
Speaker 4: Okay, someone from Diego vela seven seven nine, who said, Hey,
Speaker 4: I've been listening to the show every day since i
Speaker 4: found the YouTube channel. I would love to get a
Speaker 4: shout out from Jose doing the Veto impression. Please, it's
Speaker 4: my favorite. Greetings from Mexico.
Speaker 3: Hey, wait a minute, what was this guy's name? Tell
Speaker 3: me what was the name again?
Speaker 2: Diego?
Speaker 3: One of the stupid numbers behind his name you.
Speaker 2: Seven zero seven nine.
Speaker 3: Seven zero seven nine. My favorite is a seven zero eight.
Speaker 5: Oh, let's get you some pasta get back into the post,
Speaker 5: and it's starting right.
Speaker 2: Now with your awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 3: How far would you go to help out a friend?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it depends. Would you steal for them?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Would you lie for them?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know yet.
Speaker 3: Would you cheat with their significant other and capture it
Speaker 3: on a secret camera to go back and show them
Speaker 3: I told you he is no good?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Seven times that night?
Speaker 2: He did it out of a good place.
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Why did you keep seven times?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Just to prove how bad? Hey, well, one of our
Speaker 3: listeners says she has to do one of those things
Speaker 3: because she is in a tough spot.
Speaker 2: How sat the husband one her friend.
Speaker 3: Has requested that she tell maybe the biggest lie of
Speaker 3: her entire life, and if she doesn't do it right,
Speaker 3: it could come back and ruin her friend's career. Oh
Speaker 3: so you'll hear why she needs to do this with
Speaker 3: our help in your brand new awkward Tuesday phone call
Speaker 3: right after this, It's awkward. It's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday
Speaker 3: phone call. It's an unfortunate fact that people lie all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: No, they don't.
Speaker 3: I see what she did there. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 3: lie that wasn't true. So some lies are really bad,
Speaker 3: but some are kind of harmless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some are necessary to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on the situation necessary.
Speaker 3: But for example, where would this one rank. I'll say
Speaker 3: the statement. You tell me how bad it is? Okay,
Speaker 3: Brooke tells her family and friends she went to an
Speaker 3: accredited college.
Speaker 7: I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep the story going, selling it. I wouldn't change
Speaker 3: it if I was you either. You're in way too
Speaker 3: deep now.
Speaker 8: But I think she was just like a hillbilly in
Speaker 8: Montana for three years and just told everyone she was
Speaker 8: out of.
Speaker 3: College pretty much. I understand why she twists the truth
Speaker 3: a little bit. But even Brooks web of deceit isn't
Speaker 3: as bad as the one. Our listener, Lorie, finds herself
Speaker 3: caught in today.
Speaker 2: Bad where's your degree from?
Speaker 1: Laurie?
Speaker 3: Laurie, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 9: Hi, thank you?
Speaker 2: H Are you feeling bad?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I mean my friend put me in a really awkward position.
Speaker 3: Who lied in this situation? You were your friend?
Speaker 9: My friend lied in this situation?
Speaker 1: Oh, and then expected you to cover maybe why what happened? Yeah?
Speaker 9: So she put me down as a reference on her
Speaker 9: job resume without telling me.
Speaker 3: Oh oh god, oh.
Speaker 1: No, I mean if she would have asked, what would
Speaker 1: you have said? I mean, you'd have to lie. That's
Speaker 1: one of those necessary lies you'd have to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you Yeah.
Speaker 8: Like if I just got a random call right now
Speaker 8: and it was like Brooke Fox is applying you, I
Speaker 8: would cover for you. I totally would like you just
Speaker 8: like got you just tell.
Speaker 2: Your friends if you put him Ada.
Speaker 3: You would totally put Jose down on your resume.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like, ma'am, is he responsible?
Speaker 3: Totally don't lie, broke, don't lie.
Speaker 2: I would definitely use Jose as my reference.
Speaker 8: Oh man, never get a job with Brooke as a friend.
Speaker 3: So, Laurie, your friend didn't warn you that she was
Speaker 3: doing this.
Speaker 9: No, So I didn't really know anything about it. But
Speaker 9: I did get a random voice NOIL yesterday.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Yeah, so went to voice Will.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but it was like some guy at a company.
Speaker 9: He said, if he wants to talk to me about
Speaker 9: my friend, he wants to ask me a few questions.
Speaker 9: So like, again, like I didn't know about this. So
Speaker 9: I reached out to my friend and I'm like, what
Speaker 9: the heck, Like what did you do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: And she was really sorry, like she didn't realize they
Speaker 9: would actually call the references, I guess or she would
Speaker 9: have told me.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, okay, I'm kind of I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: people actually called the references.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 8: Never felt like they did.
Speaker 4: I definitely worked in jobs where they told me that
Speaker 4: they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think it's more like, do you have three friends,
Speaker 8: because if you don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's pretty bad if you put down
Speaker 1: somebody as a reference and they don't give a good referral.
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't put my mom down as a referenda. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's too risky. So do you know did your friend
Speaker 3: put you down as like a past employer, like a
Speaker 3: professional reference.
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not as a friend, not as a friend.
Speaker 2: Did you actually okay, did you work with her?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 9: She absolutely lied about it.
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's a lie.
Speaker 6: I don't why you guys?
Speaker 2: Are I thought everyone does this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I check my references for this job.
Speaker 2: It was probably my friend. If someone called.
Speaker 1: Your friends, you would have been outed in five seconds.
Speaker 3: And I feel like it might be a generational thing
Speaker 3: where everyone in Alexis's generation doesn't really like know about
Speaker 3: that or how it works.
Speaker 2: Resumes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the falls thunders, Yeah, all falls under the same category.
Speaker 3: So now Laurie. It sounds like you're in kind of
Speaker 3: a tough position, like what are you what are you
Speaker 3: wanting to do?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 9: I don't know. Like I call my friend. She's kind
Speaker 9: of begging me to call this boss person back and
Speaker 9: just like answer the questions and say nice things about her.
Speaker 9: But like I'm over here, like are you crazy? Because Okay,
Speaker 9: here's the worst part in the reference. It says that
Speaker 9: I'm a fluent French speaker.
Speaker 2: Why why would it say that?
Speaker 9: Because it's like an international brand manager job in branding,
Speaker 9: So I don't speak friends, I don't want to speak it.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't really know what I was to say,
Speaker 9: Like do I just call this boss person and do it?
Speaker 9: Like I need help?
Speaker 8: Wait, you you do want to call the boss? I
Speaker 8: thought you're calling your friend here.
Speaker 4: You can't change your reference if she wants to job God,
Speaker 4: So you're the boss has reached out like asking to
Speaker 4: have this conversation.
Speaker 8: So we're about to make a professional reference phone call.
Speaker 2: But we're going to be on the other line, like
Speaker 2: the boss will know.
Speaker 9: I know you play the awkward sound effect, So I think,
Speaker 9: like I'll just hang up and then you guys just
Speaker 9: hit it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Laurie, if the boss busts you and realizes
Speaker 3: that you aren't really one of your friend's past employers,
Speaker 3: and we should probably jump on to try and help
Speaker 3: you and your friend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think I need help.
Speaker 3: What about you and me?
Speaker 8: Quick French lesson in the next three minutes.
Speaker 2: Say you don't know any friends.
Speaker 3: If it makes you feel any better, Lori, we're radio
Speaker 3: hosts and we barely speak English, so you'll probably be
Speaker 3: able to get something passable by when we come back
Speaker 3: and give you our advice. Then let you give a
Speaker 3: reference to your a professional reference for your friend.
Speaker 2: This is such a bad idea. I love it.
Speaker 3: Every awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. Okay, hold on,
Speaker 3: it's awkward. It's say it's awkward Tuesday phone call. We've
Speaker 3: done a lot of awkward calls on this show, never
Speaker 3: one like this before, though, where our listener Laurie has
Speaker 3: asked us to assist in giving a professional job reference
Speaker 3: for her friend, and there's a few problems with it. One,
Speaker 3: Laurie has never actually worked with her friend in any
Speaker 3: professional capacity before, so that's a lie. Also, the reference
Speaker 3: implies that she's a fluent French speaker, which is not
Speaker 3: true at all, So hopefully the call doesn't even go there.
Speaker 3: But Laurie wants to know how do we help her
Speaker 3: fake it to make it sound legit? And luckily Brooke
Speaker 3: fakes it every couple of nights, or at least her
Speaker 3: husband does. So Brook Brook, we need your fake wisdom here.
Speaker 3: What does Laurie do.
Speaker 1: If she asks you to speak French? You just tell
Speaker 1: her you're on a French fast. You gave up the
Speaker 1: language lent. Maybe it was attracting too many men. You
Speaker 1: just start taking a break from French right now.
Speaker 3: It's too many carbs in the French language.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just are just can't do it right now?
Speaker 3: Ok?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So lock that nugget into your mind. Jose what
Speaker 3: advice do you have for Laurie?
Speaker 8: You need to set the expectation that you don't have
Speaker 8: a lot of time here, all right, either you got
Speaker 8: this whole thing's got to be quick.
Speaker 2: Remember you're important.
Speaker 9: You're important.
Speaker 8: You got some other billion dollar corporation you're running right now.
Speaker 3: You own Costco or something, right, Yeah? Because I think
Speaker 3: the longer that you stay on the phone, the more
Speaker 3: you open yourself up to the opportunity to be found
Speaker 3: out as a fraud.
Speaker 2: That's sure.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I really want to help my friend. I want
Speaker 9: this to work out. Okay, So I just want to
Speaker 9: get in and get out without crying or boy, Oh no.
Speaker 3: Don't cry out.
Speaker 2: You can't cry.
Speaker 3: That's called the Brook Anniversary Special. My friend is so sweet.
Speaker 9: I'm really nervous. I think we should just like a
Speaker 9: hurry and just do this.
Speaker 3: Okay, my job. The number is really fast and we'll
Speaker 3: jump in if you feel like you need help, but
Speaker 3: we won't. You've got this, okay.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, Hello.
Speaker 9: Hi is this Philip.
Speaker 7: Speaking? Who's this?
Speaker 9: Hi? My name is RII. I'm a reference for Jamie.
Speaker 9: You called me yesterday and lefts a message.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, thank you so much for getting back to me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, I mean I'm happy to try and
Speaker 9: help with I tell I just I don't have a
Speaker 9: lot of time. I'm a very busy, busy person with
Speaker 9: a lot of responsibilities.
Speaker 7: Totally understand. This shouldn't take long at all.
Speaker 9: Great, So what can I say? Jamie is a fantastic
Speaker 9: person and a good worker, and I'd hire us.
Speaker 7: Okay, I haven't asked any questions yet.
Speaker 9: Oh, that's you know, I just wanted to let you know,
Speaker 9: if you have specific questions, you can ask me. But
Speaker 9: that's you know, she's a great hire.
Speaker 7: That's great information to know. But let's just go ahead
Speaker 7: and jump in and start with the first question.
Speaker 9: Okay, sure, I do have a meeting that's coming up soon, so.
Speaker 7: Just like if I have to jump we'll take no
Speaker 7: time at all. So she was a little vague about
Speaker 7: her international sales experience. It was just a little unclear.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Well, in my experience, I had her doing sales
Speaker 9: internationally because she was just so good at them domestically,
Speaker 9: and I was like, you know, let's supersize it and
Speaker 9: take it overseas. So she did it and it was
Speaker 9: it was great.
Speaker 7: Uh, Okay, that doesn't give me a ton of specifics.
Speaker 7: This sales role. She would be interacting with people from
Speaker 7: other cultures pretty frequently, and it says here on her
Speaker 7: resume that she speaks French, and she mentioned that you
Speaker 7: had spoken French too, pretty frequently. And so what is
Speaker 7: the level of expertise would you say that she has.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I know that she is she's an
Speaker 9: expert fluent in French, but I do believe she said
Speaker 9: that she's giving it up for lents, so she's probably
Speaker 9: not gonna be able to speak it to you for
Speaker 9: at least ninety days.
Speaker 7: So if she if she's using French for her job,
Speaker 7: she's not gonna be able to use it for ninety days.
Speaker 9: I yeah, I don't. I don't want to push her.
Speaker 9: I don't want to you know, I know it's a
Speaker 9: it's a personal religious choice.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 9: Oh, and did you know that she was the one
Speaker 9: in charge of sella McDonald's fries over in France.
Speaker 7: Like like French fries French.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but but she came up with the whole advertisement
Speaker 9: saying like they look like mini begets.
Speaker 7: Okay, that is interesting. I've absolutely never heard of that
Speaker 7: one before ever.
Speaker 9: Oh you never, You've never heard of that? That's crazy.
Speaker 9: I actually, well, I call her uh, Litree and Tampagente.
Speaker 7: The three intelligence exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 9: Because she is as smart as three people. But you know,
Speaker 9: put into one body, really inspired.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 9: I think, honestly, you really should just hire her. You
Speaker 9: won't be sorry. She's got real main Assault energy, big
Speaker 9: Assault jay.
Speaker 7: Uh Okay, Okay.
Speaker 9: I didn't even see the time I got to run.
Speaker 7: Okay, I will take that into consideration and thanks for
Speaker 7: taking some time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, hopefully that was helpful. It was talking to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was uh something, all right, you two?
Speaker 9: Goodbye or what?
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you? What?
Speaker 2: He's gone right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hung up the Laurie you're still there? Oh?
Speaker 7: No, I did not know.
Speaker 2: French fries mini baguettes.
Speaker 9: I don't know. It seems interesting.
Speaker 3: I think she was a little bit worried about the
Speaker 3: French references and the thing over compensation.
Speaker 2: You were on a French fast, no French.
Speaker 8: Did you mention Fluffy the three headed dog from Harry
Speaker 8: Potter somehow like the intelligence of three heads?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I actually thought that was pretty good. Three people. Actually,
Speaker 1: that was actually out of all the things she said, Okay,
Speaker 1: most solid.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9: I really didn't know what I was saying. I got
Speaker 9: panicked and I like, I mean, I knew some friend,
Speaker 9: so I just threw in what I knew.
Speaker 3: I think overall, it's better than most of the reference
Speaker 3: job interview things that happen, at least at the radio station.
Speaker 1: It's not a good comparison. You don't have professional people here.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it could have gone worse.
Speaker 2: Okay, that man left so confused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe that builds the mystique or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the French drink.
Speaker 3: Yes, what we did today is we put the pressure
Speaker 3: on the second reference in her resume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is probably your best friend or her mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully your friend has a good second person.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I guess I can say that I
Speaker 9: followed through.
Speaker 5: You did.
Speaker 3: I think you did it.
Speaker 1: I think you need to tell her about the at
Speaker 1: least the McDonald's campaign for French fries in baguette.
Speaker 2: So if they ask her about it, she knows.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely going to tell her. But
Speaker 9: it does kind of look like it right.
Speaker 1: Actually, comparison there, it's a long They should put back
Speaker 1: the kids meals in France. I mean, we all know
Speaker 1: that French fries come from France, right, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even really get what she made up there.
Speaker 1: Was it just the campaign the marketing thing, or was.
Speaker 9: It Well, she's an international sales effort, so of course.
Speaker 3: Jump question Broy. Okay, Well, Jamie, the good news is
Speaker 3: that you followed through on your promise to your friend.
Speaker 3: You gave her a reference. It's not necessarily a great reference.
Speaker 3: I don't think, but you did it. Yeah, you followed
Speaker 3: through and you didn't offend anyone.
Speaker 8: Well maybe everyone in France, all our French listeners.
Speaker 1: Can you do us a favor and update us whether
Speaker 1: or not your friend gets a job.
Speaker 2: I'm really curious, like you need to know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely will. I tried reaching her earlier, but
Speaker 9: she's like working out some kind of like broad at
Speaker 9: a stone of course. Oh you tried to.
Speaker 2: Pack in all that French.
Speaker 9: Yeah, jose really wants the job, so she's trying.
Speaker 2: Take it till you make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck to her, and good luck to you.
Speaker 9: Okank you freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: We recorded that call last week and we just got
Speaker 3: word yesterday. I think everybody should know there's an update
Speaker 3: on the job situation. Apparently her friend got to the
Speaker 3: final four candidates but did not get hired for the role.
Speaker 1: Her friend, I know, did she not get hired because
Speaker 1: of the references?
Speaker 7: What was this?
Speaker 3: It might be for the best because it would be
Speaker 3: hard to live up to the lofty image that she
Speaker 3: had painted for her with all of them McDonald's stuff,
Speaker 3: the French voices. But maybe the best news out of
Speaker 3: all of this is their friendship is still intact. Oh
Speaker 3: friend appreciated Lorie went to bad for her and promises
Speaker 3: from now on she's not going to list her as
Speaker 3: a reference. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think after she heard the call this morning, she's
Speaker 1: definitely going to.
Speaker 5: Back that up.
Speaker 3: She has asked if Brooke will be a reference for her. So, Brooke,
Speaker 3: you got this.
Speaker 2: I didn't do well in French.
Speaker 3: Whatever language you speak, French or hopefully English, you can
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