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Speaker 2: So sucks to be a Panther fan. Well, it sucks

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Speaker 2: Like the League wants the Giants to be good. The

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Speaker 2: Like Jim Harbaugh now, the mccaskey's mom and pop shop

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Speaker 2: You know, usually a GM gets multiple coaches and whether

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Speaker 2: some other stuff. Once a video becomes public, it's everyone

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Speaker 2: Props to Belichick for looking good and listen, props to

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Speaker 2: So let's let's give Bill a standing ovation, not try

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Speaker 2: don't care how shitty this season goes, and listen, I

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Speaker 2: kind of think the culture gonna beat him. I liked

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Speaker 2: it these these international games, especially for those of us

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Speaker 2: You don't have the focus. But like the Miami Chiefs game,

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Speaker 2: Besides the big picture. If the Pats lose, this Belichick

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Speaker 2: thing is only gonna grow. And I think there are

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Speaker 2: I think this trade would be much more like, listen,

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Speaker 2: you give us like a fifth round pick. We don't

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Speaker 2: even want him as our coach. Let Bill go somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Part of the Sean Payton thing, right, The reason they

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Speaker 2: was do you think the Saints wanted to lose Sean Payton?

428
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: You think the Saints wanted to go to Dennis Allen.

429
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: Of course not. Sean's like I quit. They're like, well, okay,

430
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: but you're still under contract and we're not just gonna

431
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: let you coach somewhere else. We get it you need

432
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: a little break, but we don't actually want Dennis Allen

433
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 2: to be our coach. You're kind of leaving us high

434
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: and dry. With Bill and the Craft, It's like, yeah,

435
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 2: we don't really want you here. You know, Bill's prideful.

436
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd want to not be there, but

437
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: it will be the best thing for him. And maybe

438
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: he's too old, maybe he's lost his fastball, maybe he

439
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: should hang up his whistle. Right when Andy went to

440
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, he was obviously dramatically younger than Bill will

441
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: be when he goes to a new team. But I

442
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: think Bill for a guy in the seventies, as you

443
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: see in that video of him, you know, leaving. You know,

444
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: we don't know if it's a young ladies. It could

445
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: have been like his cousin's house. Who knows. Maybe he's

446
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: just leaving, lost his shirt, didn't know where he was going.

447
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: But I do think Bill would be revitalized. And to me,

448
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: there's something anyone listening that's made a big professional change

449
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: in their life. When you've been stuck in a rut.

450
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: There is an energy that comes with a new job,

451
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: with a new opportunity, with working with new people. It's

452
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: like a natural caffeine boost to your body. Because anyone

453
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: who's been in a situation where even if you've had

454
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: success somewhere, if it's not going well, it can drain you. Man,

455
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: I've been there. I'm sure many people listening have been there,

456
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: and then you'd like it's hard because you eventually got

457
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: to wear it that you failed or you didn't have success.

458
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: But a lot of people that have gotten bankrupt to

459
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: bounce back and to bigger and brighter things. Right. So

460
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: I do think that Bill, if this team wins three

461
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: or four games, which they feel destined to be and

462
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: as a coach somewhere else, could have a couple good

463
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: years if he had a quarterback, And like we talked about,

464
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: you can only be a good coach with a good quarterback,

465
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: it's impossible, Like, you can't. No one's winning with Mac Jones.

466
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: You just not. You can put Mac Jones on the

467
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: eighty five Bears and they would have some issues. So

468
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: part of having a good team is having a good

469
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: quarter You don't need a great quarterback. You can win

470
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: with like you can win with Alex Smith. Not win big,

471
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: but like you can win go to the playoffs every

472
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: year with a serviceable, above average starter. But you have

473
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: no chance to win with a guy that's in the

474
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Speaker 2: bottom ten. You just don't. I mean, look at Carolina Panthers.

475
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: Team sucks, but their quarterbacks one of the worst quarterbacks

476
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Right the Bears same thing, like, and

477
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: their team's better. But when your quarterback play is bad,

478
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: you're just gonna lose more often than you win. A

479
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: couple teams this week who could kind of sneaky have

480
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: some big muscle flex. I think two of the better

481
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: games on Sunday are Lions against the Chargers. Chargers sneaky

482
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: back like they're four and four, they're playing pretty good football,

483
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: their defense actually been better. The Jags against the Niners.

484
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Both these teams, if either one of them wins They're

485
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: seven and two and look like they are on cruise

486
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: control to win their division. But if the Lions go

487
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: beat the Chargers, who are playing good football, and it's listen,

488
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a home game. I'm telling you. I

489
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: said this to Coward weeks ago. When you just pulled

490
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: up their schedule, It's like they could win forty games.

491
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: It's not inconceivable that they could win fifteen. They've already

492
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: won some of their tougher games. And if you win this,

493
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like Google, their schedule kind of

494
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: opens up. I do think they would be in the mix,

495
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: just based on their opponents, to be the number one

496
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: overall seed. And listen, we already acknowledge the Lions are good.

497
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: Like the Lions are a good team. Are they a

498
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: super Bowl team? I wouldn't go that far, right, I

499
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't put them there, but they're really good. I would

500
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: expect them minimum to win a playoff game and be

501
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: a team that even in the second round, could cause

502
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: some headaches. Right, But all of a sudden, you start

503
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: winning a game like this on the road against Herbert,

504
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, their dream to have several home playoff

505
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: games is very much alive and then the Jags and

506
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: the Niners. And listen, the Niners have been beyond shitty

507
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: the last three weeks, the last two weeks defensively, they've

508
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: been terrible. They're coming off of bye. They ad Chase Young.

509
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, if let's say they

510
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: had won two of those games, hadn't been on a

511
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: three game, they'd be like a ten point favorite, maybe

512
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: not ten, but like a touchdown favorite in this game.

513
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: So right now they're a three point favorite. And that's

514
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: with three straight losses to a team that's six and two.

515
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: And here's the thing with their defense, it's really struggled

516
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: in terms of covering people. And one thing the Jags

517
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: do well a lot of weapons. Ridley kirk ingram Etn

518
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: is basically just a you know, a hybrid pass catching

519
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: running back. So I think this is gonna be a sneaky,

520
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: tough spot for him, and this is gonna be all

521
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: eyes Wilkes down to the booth. You know, if that defense, like,

522
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: are they gonna get it together? Because this was defense

523
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: early on the season it just looked like they've looked

524
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Now you're playing a quarterback

525
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: the other thing that Sinki gives the forty nine ers

526
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: some trouble are quarterbacks, not necessarily like running quarterbacks like

527
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, but guys who can scramble and keep plays alive,

528
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: and that's Trevor Lawrence. So I don't know. I mean,

529
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: I think if either one of these two teams wins,

530
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: they're seven and two, we're talking about a thirteen or

531
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: fourteen win season. And to me, if the Lions win

532
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen games the Detroit Lions, I don't see how

533
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's not the coach of the year last but

534
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: not least, I'm fascinated by this game because I think

535
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, when John Gruden got fired

536
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: in the middle of the season, right or it was

537
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: even the middle. It's like week four or five. It

538
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: was during Monday Night football, I think the Ravens were playing,

539
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: and by halftime it was clear he was done, and

540
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: Rich Pasacia took over. And then a couple of weeks later,

541
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: Henry Ruggs kills the girl and her dog in his

542
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: Lamborghini or whatever Porsche. It was a crazy time and

543
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: Rich Pasacia, who was the interim head coach, not just

544
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: handled it as a professional, but kept the train on

545
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: the tracks and that team made the playoffs, and there

546
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: was a lot of internal support. Derek Carr, Max Crosby,

547
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: all those guys wanted him to be their head coach.

548
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: He went with Josh McDaniels, and a lot of people

549
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: thought that was the wrong move. A lot of people

550
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: internally thought that he fucked up. I don't know if

551
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: Rich would have been a good head coach, perfect place,

552
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: perfect time, but that is something that Mark Davis has

553
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: not forgot, and obviously he just fires Josh McDaniels, who

554
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: It is crazy. Every single day I see something on

555
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: the Internet of one of their players kind of indirectly

556
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: talking shit about how terrible Josh McDaniels was. You can't

557
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: even make up how miserable the stories I've heard that

558
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: it sounded in the building with this guy. It's crazy

559
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: when you get a second opportunity and you know the

560
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: issue that you had the first time, and you just

561
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: do the same thing over again. And it gets back

562
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: to I think you can change in life, but when

563
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: you start going through tough times, it's easy to change

564
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: when everything's going well and be a new guy, be

565
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: a new person. Right, Hell as a golfer, it's easy

566
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: on the on the driving range to change your golf swing. Well,

567
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: what happens under pressure, what happens after you hit one

568
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: out of bounds? You usually kind of freak out and

569
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: resort back muscle memory. It's no different psychologically to the

570
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: way we're wired. And what happened to Josh last year

571
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: some terrible losses and it got ugly, and it got

572
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: ugly fast. Hell, he went there. He thought Tom Brady

573
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: was gonna come. They thought they were gonna replace before

574
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: he thought, never thought Derek Carr was gonna take a snap.

575
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: And then Tom Brady didn't come right, went back to

576
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: the box for a year. So after the retirement, weird

577
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: thing happened, So immediately it got off to a weird

578
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: start and everything backfired, and then he resorted back to

579
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: exactly what he was. The muscle memory of his brain

580
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: just became the asshole that no one could stand and

581
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: he couldn't overcome it as a scheme guy, write his

582
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: schematics because the talent on his team wasn't good enough,

583
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: so he couldn't coach anybody, and everyone hated him. It

584
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: became this powder cake which happened and then who's there

585
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: a lot like a rich a leader, a guy that

586
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: everyone respects, which matters. And we see some guys in

587
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: football who have that attribute, who are awesome at their job.

588
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: Like watch the Steelers and watch the Ravens. Their head

589
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: coaches don't do anything with offense, defense, or special teams.

590
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they don't influence or anything, but during

591
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: a game they don't call any of it, and a

592
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: lot of times they're just there to call timeouts and

593
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: scream at the refs. Watch Harbaugh and watch Tomlin helped Campbell.

594
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: A lot of guys are like that, but they are

595
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: great leaders. I mean, Mike Tomlin is known as one

596
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: of the greatest leaders in the history of the league.

597
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: I think Dan Campbell feels like he's kind of becoming that.

598
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Whenever I watch Dan Campbell talk, I'm like, God, I

599
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: don't want to play for this guy. This guy feels like,

600
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, a dude that every guy in that locker

601
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: room believes in and that matters. And that's what I

602
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: think Antonio Pierce definitely had as a player. And I

603
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: think that's why Mark Davis pulled the trigger right now,

604
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: because I think it's players were telling them this guy's

605
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: the opposite. This guy's done at the highest level. Give

606
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: this guy a shot. So it was an easy one

607
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: for Mark. And listen, what rich why he gave him

608
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get the job is because he won.

609
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: So Antonio Pierce gotta win these games. And this is

610
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: a good example. Sunday night football. Everyone watching, you're playing

611
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. You're not playing Aaron Rodgers. You're not playing

612
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: Joe Namath, you're not playing Vinnie testavererg You're getting Zach

613
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: fucking Wilson with an offensive line that is not any good.

614
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: This is a winnable game, and you win games like this.

615
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: I think Antonio Pierce, if he just gets this team

616
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: in the mix, and I mean they win this game,

617
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: they'd be five and five, and if he can get

618
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: them around nine wins even if they miss the playoffs.

619
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say he'd be a lock, because

620
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: I do think Mark Davis would be very interested in

621
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: Jim Harball. But I do think he wants to hire

622
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: this guy, right, But you gotta win to get hired, right.

623
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: You gotta win to get hired, and I do think

624
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: the opportunity is there. And on the flip side. They're

625
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: basically going through the same thing that they went through

626
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: last year. The difference is when the season started, you

627
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: had the hope of Aaron Rodgers, but that ended immediately.

628
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: But you watch this Jets team, it's just the same

629
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: shit over and over and even the games they win,

630
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: the games they win, the games they lose, the Eagles games,

631
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: the chart, they all kind of look the same. Just

632
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: maybe they get the pick six or maybe they don't.

633
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: But the offense, the putrid passing game, the if you're

634
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: betting on them, if you're a fan of the team,

635
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: if you're just watching the game like myself, and you

636
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: just are just entertained right sitting on your couch, whenever

637
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: he comes out and the offense rolls out, you have

638
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: no faith. When they get multiple first downs in a drive,

639
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Speaker 2: you are surprised. You have absolutely no faith that they

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Speaker 2: can drive the field and help get in like field

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Speaker 2: goal range, let alone go on touchdown drives. So it's

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Speaker 2: not Robert Salla's fault that they made the move. But

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Speaker 2: I do think that like this is the opposite, right,

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Speaker 2: you start losing some of these games. The Charger game,

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Speaker 2: what was that everyone was watching this game? Everyone was watching,

646
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Speaker 2: and maybe he's getting next year no matter what, because

647
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Speaker 2: Rogers is coming back off the injury. But you can

648
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: already see like it's difficult. It's very, very difficult in

649
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Speaker 2: the NFL to overcome not winning, you know, and no

650
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Speaker 2: matter how much they like you, no matter how much

651
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Speaker 2: they're paying you. Unlike Josh McDaniels, everyone likes Robert Salah.

652
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: He's an easy guy to like, high character, gets along

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Speaker 2: with people, natural leader of men, people like the human being.

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Speaker 2: But this is the bottom line business. Josh McDaniels could

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Speaker 2: have been the biggest asshole in America if he would

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Speaker 2: have been going eleven and five or eleven and six

657
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: and going to the playoffs every year, no one would

658
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Speaker 2: have cared. Well, the players might have, but the owner

659
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Speaker 2: and the fans would have all supported him. And if

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Speaker 2: the Jets go under five hundred again, it's like, where

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Speaker 2: are we really going here? We're just keeping our fingers

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Speaker 2: crossed that Aaron Rodgers, after listening to dolphins have sex,

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Speaker 2: that his achilles can, you know, be healed and fixed

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four and we're good. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: great faith in that, especially when you play on a

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Speaker 2: surface that everyone tears something at MetLife like he's just

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Speaker 2: gonna be fully healthy again next year. So it's just

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Speaker 2: it's tough this game, Raiders Jets. You say it out loud,

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Speaker 2: it's not. I'm fascinated by this. I can't wait for

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night football. Okay, let's get to a little thing

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Speaker 2: we like to call the Bold Take of the Week

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Speaker 2: and it's brought to you by my friends at Guinness.

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00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: And I thought last week the USC Trojans would lose

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Speaker 2: and that Caleb Williams career would end. And then when

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Speaker 2: the visual came out of him crying with his mom

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Speaker 2: and they lost, I thought, God, I think I thought

677
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Speaker 2: he was crying because as his last college football game.

678
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Speaker 2: I was like, I nailed it. Turns out no, because

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Speaker 2: technically they're still alive. They play Oregon this week. But

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Speaker 2: I've been close.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud is a lock for Rookie of the Year. And

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Speaker 2: it's impossible, I would say, for a rookie quarterback to

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Speaker 2: honestly look as good as he is, let alone to

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Speaker 2: be like a pro Bowl level guy, and c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud is just gonna be in that mix. You go

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Speaker 2: on the road as a big underdog against a team

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Speaker 2: that I think we all acknowledge right now, looks like

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Speaker 2: currently these last couple weeks, the best team in the

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Speaker 2: NFL in the Cincinnati Bengals, and they have one of

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Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks, Jamar Chase, who got banged up from

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Speaker 2: that fall Higgins has now hurt. You know, the defense,

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Speaker 2: while led by a good coordinator, statistically, has been giving

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Speaker 2: up a lot of passing yards. What if CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 2: rolls in there, the Texans win that game and he

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Speaker 2: throws for like three touchdowns and in a two week

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Speaker 2: span he's got eight touchdowns and they just won a

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Speaker 2: couple games and they like got Are the Texans a

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Speaker 2: potential wild card team? It would be on the table.

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Speaker 2: Could CJ. Stroud? You're not there yet. I'm not putting them,

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Speaker 2: you know, with the Burrows and the Lamars. You win

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Speaker 2: a game like this when everyone's kind of paying attention,

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Speaker 2: you throw three or four touchdowns, you get basically like

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Speaker 2: you know, eight, nine, ten touchdowns, and over a two

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Speaker 2: week span, you get your team into the playoff mix

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Speaker 2: heading into the middle of November. Does he start getting

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Speaker 2: some MVP bus Does he start getting some MVP bus

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Speaker 2: so Ball Take of the Week I think the Texans

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Speaker 2: roll in Cincinnati, CJ. Stroud throw some touchdowns, they win,

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Speaker 2: and we start talking about CJ. Stroud like pro bowler MVP.

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Speaker 2: Buckle up Texans fans, you guys would be well alive.

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Speaker 2: it again with the man from the Action Network Big

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Speaker 2: Bets on campus and you can find him firing off

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Speaker 2: tweets all week and long when football's going. And he

733
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Speaker 2: told everybody it seemed bleak, it seemed ugly. But Hammer

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Speaker 2: Dabosweeney and the Clemson Tigers. And as Dabbo said after

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Speaker 2: the game, you better buy that fucking stock because Clemson

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Speaker 2: is coming. I don't know about that. But Clemson hit

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Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame. Uh stuck. You whatsever bro?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Brother? Yeah? It was Uh, it was

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00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: a cruel Sunday though I had the Cowboys. Chiefs got

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: there easily, but I had the Cowboys, who I don't

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Speaker 1: know how they didn't win the game. They did everything

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Speaker 1: that I thought they were gonna do, but racked up

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Speaker 1: five hund yards of offense and just kept failing at

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00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: the goal line over and over and over again. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: even couldn't even not step them out of bounce and

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Speaker 1: get the two which would have pushed it was great.

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Speaker 1: And then I had the Texans who didn't have a kicker,

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00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: and I knew that they weren't going to kick the

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Speaker 1: extra point. So yeah, that's that's what happens on some

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Speaker 1: NFL Sundays. It's an oblong ball sometimes doesn't bounce your way.

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Speaker 1: But we're on to uh week ten in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and we go eleven in college football.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, you know, as as Belichick would say coming

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Speaker 2: out of the Young Lady's house, we're on the Cincinnati,

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00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: on the Cincinnati and uh, you know what's crazy is

756
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: like the Texans thing, Well, it really sucks. At least

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: you go, well, their kickers injured, they kicked the field

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00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: goal with like a dB or whatever. When that shit happens.

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00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: As a gambler, you're kind of screwed. The cow boy thing.

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00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: It's like, how do you not run the route into

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00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: the end zone an extra six inches? Dak Prescott Like,

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00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you can't step out of bounds on that play,

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00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: leap at the four yard line, do whatever. You just

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Speaker 2: can't like that. That was the worst loss for a

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Speaker 2: good team, like I could ever remember that needed Like

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Speaker 2: my whole take coming into that game was like, when's

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Speaker 2: the last time McCarthy had a win where the Cowboy

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00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: fans were like, that's my fucking coach, and he was

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: about to get one and then but he didn't, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, great loss. I mean, that's like defines

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Great loss basically ends the Division two And yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: the thing that's the worst part about the Houston game

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Speaker 1: was that there was a fumble. Tampa had a fumble.

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Speaker 1: Three guys were around it for Houston, all missed it

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Speaker 1: and bounced right in Evans's hands and they scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: You get that fumble, the game was over, and then

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Speaker 1: I had to watch the Eagles recover all three of

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Speaker 1: their fumbles that magically. Yeah, so it's one of those days.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you. Dak couldn't like that's

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00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: always been the knock on him, and he played awesome

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Speaker 1: and they just ripped apart the Eagles, especially in the

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Speaker 1: slot Ceedee Lamb, Jake Ferguson with nuts. But Dak has

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Speaker 1: just never been able to make that key play when

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Speaker 1: it counts. And you know, you mentioned going out of bounds,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the route short. The biggest thing is your

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Speaker 1: first in goal at the six, got down there, somehow

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Speaker 1: in twenty seconds from like your own ten, you have

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Speaker 1: four and you're you've thrown for four hundred yards. They

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Speaker 1: cannot defend you. They're lost. You have four shots in

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Speaker 1: the end zone. No matter what you do, you cannot

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Speaker 1: take a sat there. So yeah, very it was a

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Speaker 1: frustrating game at that It was horrifying to watch that game.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, for the Cowboys, like the doubts will creep

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Speaker 1: back in when they you know, whenever they face one

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Speaker 1: of the top teams in the NFC, it seems like

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Speaker 1: they're just a one little tier below. Can they break through,

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Speaker 1: We'll see, But that was that was as bad as well.

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Speaker 1: They can play and the Eagles didn't play well. Granted

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Speaker 1: they got unlucky y with fumbles and other things, but again,

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Speaker 1: can't get there.

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Speaker 2: Totally agree. I mean, when you lose a game and

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Speaker 2: your quarterback's awesome, it's just a huge kick in the dick,

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Speaker 2: like Notre Dame, like they get kind of shoved around

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Speaker 2: by Clemson. Well, their quarterback looked like an undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 2: Like you're not against that defense on the road, even

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Speaker 2: if you wanted. We talked about last week, Dabbo. They

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Speaker 2: have lost some pretty crazy games this year, and that

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Speaker 2: defense clearly has a bunch of NFL guys and Sam Hartman,

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Speaker 2: who you know, through a couple of games it was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: I remember texting some of my NFL buddies. They're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I had like a seventh undrafted free agent

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Speaker 2: that type. Great on them transferring, but you know, eyes

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Speaker 2: are open now this tough stretch and he's a guy

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Speaker 2: that went through that tough stretch. Even though they won

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Speaker 2: some of those games, I would say Sam Hartman stock

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Speaker 2: didn't budge much into people that had a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now the quarterback, quarterback has a great day

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Speaker 1: and you don't win, just a better the that's two

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Speaker 1: quarterback performances last week where Dak and Stroud and I

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Speaker 1: didn't catch either of those bets as a dog point favor.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's painful, but yeah, the questions remain,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so about this Dallas team. And there's not

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Speaker 1: many teams in the conversation in the NFC, right and

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Speaker 1: Dallas is supposed to be one of them. But the

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Speaker 1: questions will remain and rightfully so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, the NFC is just I mean, we'll

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Speaker 2: see with the Niners this weekend, if they can get

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Speaker 2: back Adam Chase Young, the Lions have a big game

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Speaker 2: against the Chargers. Honestly, it's not a great slate in

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Speaker 2: terms of just on paper matchups. That to me is

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Speaker 2: one of the more interesting games the NFC with the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: who have just not really been right all season, but

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Speaker 2: they are even going through this tough stretch. If they

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Speaker 2: get to thirteen fourteenth, like, they're just probably gonna have

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Speaker 2: the number one seed, I guess, unless this is a

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00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: big week for the for the Lions. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the Niners and Cowboys with some just shitty losses, have

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Speaker 2: kind of played themselves out. And let's face it, like

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Speaker 2: even if the conference is nowhere near as deep as

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Speaker 2: the AFC, which is clearly taken shape. I mean the

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Speaker 2: Bengals currently, because they've lost division games, are in last place,

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Speaker 2: they look like arguably the best team in the league

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Speaker 2: right now. It's just a lot harder in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of those first round games are gonna

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Speaker 2: be fucking hard. Right in the NFC, some of these matchups,

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Speaker 2: I think the wild card teams are gonna be favored, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, with like the Niners and the Cowboys potentially

850
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: against like the Saints, and I don't even know who

851
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: the other you know, if they had to play, like

852
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: if it was Niners at Seattle, let's say, right, it could.

853
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Just so it's gonna be very fascinating to watch that

854
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: all play out, just because and it's what we thought

855
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: coming into the season, because the better quarterbacks were in

856
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: that conference. Like even the Chargers. Listen, I'm never gonna

857
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: get behind Brandon Staley. But they win this weekend, they're

858
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: clearly alive.

859
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they're they're because then their schedule for the

860
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: next three or four weeks besides the Ravens is pretty easy.

861
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: The Lions, I think the Lions need to get the one.

862
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Like the Lions aren't going outdoors with golf and winning

863
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: against any elite teams in the Nfcson, but even.

864
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: The two seed, would two seed would get you multiple

865
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: home games?

866
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Yes, two c be big. One seed obviously would be huge.

867
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: So that's really important for Detroit. The other teams in the

868
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: NFC are pretty well. The way that that Dallas is playing,

869
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: I think that they actually would. They don't want to

870
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: play like a physical game with San Francisco or Philadelphia

871
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Outdoors in the winner, so it hurts them even more

872
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: now that they can't win that division and get the

873
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: one seed. So yeah, I think it is an import

874
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: important couple of games for San Francisco. I think they'll

875
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: ultimately be fine, but I think it's either San Francisco

876
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: or Philly that comes out of the NFC. We'll see

877
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: if anyone else can emerge. But yeah, not the greatest

878
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: slate this week, but I think there's some some metable

879
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: games out there.

880
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's start. I kind of looked at it. It's

881
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: not an easy week to bet. We'll start with the Packers,

882
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: who are just it's pretty clear this quarterback is not

883
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: going to be their guy. I would bet against him

884
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: being their starting quarterback in twenty twenty four. But unlike

885
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: the Giants, they didn't financially fuck themselves with a crazy

886
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: contract or even pick up his fifty options, so it's

887
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: pretty easy to pivot. They beat the crap out of

888
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 2: the Rams, who clearly are pretty terrible, so I don't

889
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: quite know what to make of them. But the Steelers,

890
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: it's just really hard to trust that offense. Now Minka

891
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: is out still, but that pass rush Jordan Love on

892
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: the road. It's hard. I mean I was all in

893
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: on the Steelers early in the season. They've shown some

894
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: signs of life, but they're just a hard team to

895
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: feel comfortable betting. Who do you like in this game?

896
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I took the Packers plus three and a half.

897
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: The Steelers. Look, they've been we do on Action Network,

898
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: we do these things called luck rankings that look at

899
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: like everything you know, turnovers, red zone performance, fumbles, you know,

900
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: just every potential metric that kind of looks at your

901
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: expected wins versus what your actual wins are through nine weeks.

902
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: The Steelers are the luckiest team ever since we've been

903
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: doing this. They are five and three. They should they

904
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: have an expected reck two and six, Like, this is

905
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: a team that is five to zero one score games.

906
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: The Ravens had all the drops, they got the defensive touchdowns

907
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: against the Browns. I mean, they've been out gained in

908
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: every single game this season. One of only thirty two

909
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: teams in NFL history that that that's happened to in

910
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: one hundred years. And they're five and three, the only

911
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: team that's had this.

912
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: Who's better? If you if they played on a neutral site,

913
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: who would you put your money on them or the Browns. Oh,

914
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: the Browns, I mean, because the Ravens and Bengals are

915
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: clearly better to me than both those two teams. And

916
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: it's just what one of those two teams is gonna

917
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean, one of those two teams probably gonna be

918
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: a playoff team, right.

919
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Browns. I mean, I think the Browns are the

920
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: best defense in the league. Like, the Browns secondary stets

921
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: them apart from the Steelers. And I mean the Steelers

922
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: without make a fitz Patrick, it's not that great of

923
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: a secondary. And I mean the Browns now of offensive

924
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: line injuries, but both you know, Watson just isn't the same.

925
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: Both offenses are pretty similar and very limited. But the

926
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: Browns have an elite defense. The Steelers defense is just

927
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: middle of the road. They have, you know, a guy's

928
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: in good passer Smith who can change games and win

929
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: them on their own. But overall, I take the Browns.

930
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: I think right now, the Ravens are the best team

931
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm not just saying that as a

932
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Ravens fan, but yeah, and the Bengals are emerging now,

933
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: I mean that division as of right now, going into

934
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: this week, the AFC playoffs are the division winners and

935
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: everyone in the AFC North if the season ended today.

936
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: But the Steelers have been extremely lucky this offense. I mean,

937
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: it's bad. Pick it somehow finds like magic in the

938
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: final five minutes of the game. But they've gone three

939
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: and out forty seven percent of their drives. In comparison,

940
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: the Packers thirty seven percent. And they've been a bad offense.

941
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 1: But look, so I make these.

942
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: Say that say that percent one more time.

943
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: The Steelers forty seven percent highest in the league.

944
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: Jesus, that's basically fifty to fifty shot of going three

945
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: and out every time they get the ball.

946
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they've been out gained every single game the

947
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: five and h one score games. And by the way,

948
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: the Packers are one in three and one score games.

949
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: They've got three losses by a combined seven points. It's

950
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: like they've been feisty. They just can't get it going

951
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: in the first half for whatever reason. But you know,

952
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: I just I cannot get to I can't lay cannot

953
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: get to this number. I think these teams, you know,

954
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: are pretty even. Like if you look at them, especially

955
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: without Fitzpatrick, Packers now getting healthier on defense, you had

956
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: jyr Alexander who's out a bunch. You know your linebackers

957
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: are now healthy. Your offensive line had some injuries. It's

958
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: not healthy. And the most of all of the Aaron

959
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: Jones is not fully healthy. You finally got a full

960
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: workload last week. He's your best player. They can feed

961
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: him here. But I look at these teams, they're pretty similar.

962
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers have two really good pass rushers too,

963
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: Sean Garry's really good. They probably have a little better

964
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: secondary when Fitzpatrick's out, but very limited quarterback, limited passing attack.

965
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I would say Packers are the better running back, the

966
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: better offensive line. Like these these are very similar. Low total,

967
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: asking the Steelers to win by margin, No thanks, And

968
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: by the way, this is when you want to face Tomlin. Underdog.

969
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is the king. But as a favorite of

970
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: more than a field goal fifty five seventy one and

971
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: one against the spread forty three percent, only coach less

972
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: profitable over the last fifty years as a favorite of

973
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: more than a field goal Mike Shanahan, he was very conservative,

974
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: so he was always bad as a favorite, and sometimes

975
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: that comes out in coyleege once in a while, and

976
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: against teams that are under Yeah, a lot of times,

977
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: he's forty two percent. So this is the classic fade

978
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers spot. They've been extremely lucky. Two limited quarterbacks here,

979
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: two limited offenses, but Aaron Jones will be able to

980
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: move the ball a little bit. This game should be ugly.

981
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: I'll give me the three and a half all day.

982
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: I live for a spread, and we always get it

983
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: because these teams, especially this year, was bound to happen

984
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: once these quarterbacks were dropping like flies. I have a

985
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: hard time people being critical of the Giants, like, how

986
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: can you allow Tommy DeVito's Like, well, they came into

987
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: the season with a forty million dollars quarterback who's overpaid

988
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: but still a starting quarterback, and their backup was Tyrod Taylor,

989
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: so the one two is pretty good. Like, Tyron's got

990
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: to be one of the better, more capable backups in

991
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. They both get fucking hurt. What are you

992
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: gonna do? Like most teams don't have Brock Purty as

993
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: their third string quarterback. If you get to the third

994
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: string quarterback, you're screwed. Now. This is kind of the

995
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: season from hell for the Giants. The Cowboys, coming off

996
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: a loss, need to get their swagger back. Already played.

997
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: This team beat the living piss out of them. The

998
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: spreads this is you know, the Giants, depending on their matchups,

999
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: could get if they played the Eagles. I mean, you

1000
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: can be approaching twenty sixteen and a half. It's hard

1001
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: with Tommy DeVito to think that the Giants got ten

1002
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: points in the back right.

1003
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: With the over under the team total for the Cowboys,

1004
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: excuse me, for the Giants. The team total is ten

1005
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: and a half. You never see a team total that low,

1006
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: and I would take the under at ten and a half.

1007
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: I laid sixteen and sixteen and a half with the Cowboys,

1008
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: and I never It's very hard for NFL teams like

1009
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: this is more of a college spread. NFL teams don't

1010
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: care about running up the score right so like, and

1011
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to build huge margin like you do

1012
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: in college. But Tommy DeVito, I mean, look, this is

1013
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: we don't He couldn't start at Syracuse. He had a

1014
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: transfer at Syracuse. He's the worst quarterback I've ever had

1015
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: raided to start an NFL game, with one exception when

1016
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Kendall Hinton, the wide receiver for the Broncos, during the

1017
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: COVID year and they were seventeen one under us. I

1018
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: think he finished one of eight. But to veto look,

1019
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: he played the Jets and there was weather and the

1020
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: Jets are a great day they had they finished. The

1021
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: Giants finished with negative passing yards in the game, like

1022
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: negative seven passings. Last week they play a bottom five

1023
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: defense in the Raiders and Aidan O'Connell, another backup quarterback.

1024
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: They lost thirty to six, thirty to six to the Raiders.

1025
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: And they got their The score wasn't even it was

1026
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't even that close.

1027
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I just don't know how the Giants scorer.

1028
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, the Cowboys, but they should

1029
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: come out angry here. They don't have to look ahead.

1030
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: They have the Panthers on deck and the Cowboys have

1031
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: already won. They beat the Jets, Patriots, and Rams by

1032
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: more than seventeen points. Dak Prescott, this is a super

1033
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: impressive stat. He's twenty seven and eleven against the spread

1034
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: when he's favored by six or more seventy one percent.

1035
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Only quarterback in NFL history more profitable in that spot

1036
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady. Part of that, that's not all, Dak

1037
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: that's this Cowboys team, and they've always had a great

1038
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: pass rush, good secondary. Once they get a lead over

1039
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: a bad team, it's over, right, Michael Parsons. They bring

1040
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: the pressure and they're just gonna keep They pin their ears.

1041
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: Pick six and they fumbles.

1042
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: It spirals out of control. So as long as the

1043
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys I get a lead here early, it's over. I like,

1044
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know how the Giants would get. You

1045
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: gotta have Barkley breaking eighty yard on. You gotta have

1046
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: a fumbles, you know, fumbled kick.

1047
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: Why would you put eleven guys in the box. Why

1048
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: do you even have put a corner out there?

1049
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1050
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: How darkly ten yards?

1051
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's uh, it's bad. Tommy DeVito is horrendous.

1052
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: And it's not like the Giants of good receivers, Like

1053
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 1: there's nothing that.

1054
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: All they can do Waller's out.

1055
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Their offensive line is bad too, so there's nothing

1056
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: that they can do here. So I laid it. I

1057
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: never lay it. I never lay sixteen NFL. I think

1058
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna d up closing up over seventeen. And the

1059
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: Cowboys are just built to blow out bad teams because

1060
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: of that pass us, because they play man and they're

1061
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: really aggressive and inexperienced quarterback. It's just over. I mean,

1062
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: you saw it with doubt, you can saw it against

1063
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: the Rams with Stafford and Stafford went out. You saw

1064
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: it against the Patriots when they won. You saw it

1065
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: against the Giants during the season. And just to kind

1066
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: of put this into context again, I a couple of

1067
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I played the Giants plus fourteen and a

1068
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: half against the Bills in New York. That was with

1069
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, who's a starter caliber quarterback, and the Bills

1070
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: defense has been a bottom five D since they're in injuries. Now.

1071
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a similar price for the Cowboys

1072
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: at home against Tommy DeVito, the worst quarterback in the NFL,

1073
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys of a top five D unlike the Bills.

1074
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: It's like, I think this line, I mean I thought

1075
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: that Bill's line is crazy, but this line should be

1076
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: over seventeen. I think it's hard to price because like

1077
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: how bad is Tommy DeVito? I mean I think something

1078
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: you could argue, like some people will say, like he's

1079
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: this bad. I think he's like this bad. So we'll see.

1080
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: But I think the Cowboys come out of anger here

1081
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: build a lead and then it's just it's over from there.

1082
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Giants can possibly do, and

1083
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, the Cowboys offense is rolling right now.

1084
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: Like I talked about last week. The Dack's using his legs,

1085
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: they're throwing on early downs.

1086
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: And Lamb looks awesome.

1087
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: Ferguson, Yeah, Lamb Ferguson has emerged. Like the offensive line's

1088
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: not fully healthy. You got Tyrone's fit back, and that

1089
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: offensive line did a tremendous job against that Philly D

1090
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: line until the sacks late, but they were and that's

1091
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: one of the best d lines in the NFL. So

1092
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: I think this is a route like thirty five to three.

1093
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: I think the Giants now with the injuries, I haven't

1094
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: seen the latest on Tyrod, Like he's not out for

1095
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: the season, right, I mean.

1096
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: He could come back in a couple of weeks.

1097
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just assume he's out for a while.

1098
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be in the running. We're recording

1099
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: this before Carolina, who's clearly not very good. But Carolina, could,

1100
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: you know, given their schedule, could rattle off a couple

1101
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: of random wins. The Cowboys at Washington then they play

1102
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: Belichick at home. Tommy DeVito ain't beating Belichick, and who

1103
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: knows to Vito might not even be starting by then.

1104
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: The Packers at Saints at Eagles Rams, I mean, that

1105
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: could be an ugly game that could be technically winnable

1106
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: and then end with the Eagles. Who who knows. Maybe

1107
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: that game doesn't matter to them, but even if the Eagles

1108
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: were playing backups, they would win that game. I think

1109
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: the Giants are in major play for the not just

1110
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: the number one pick, but just they might not win

1111
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: another game and at one win, Max, like, it could

1112
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 2: get even uglier some of the spreads against the Eagles,

1113
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: like at Philly on Christmas. I'm sure Philly's still playing

1114
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: for something there for the one seas that's bread could

1115
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: be fucking enormous.

1116
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Twenty one, Yeah, it could be twenty one, which is

1117
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen like twenty seven months way back.

1118
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: But like, what do you think next week if they

1119
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: let's say they lose this game thirty to three, I mean,

1120
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: what's at Commanders next week? Are they a ten point

1121
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: underdog against Commanders?

1122
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Max, big Road favorite in

1123
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: New York. I mean, yeah, it's gonna get ugly with

1124
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: the Giants. It'll be a race with them and then

1125
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: the Bears, because the Bears have their pick and the

1126
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: Panthers pick. So yeah, and then Jones isn't going to

1127
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: be like I don't I don't know when Jones is

1128
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: going to be ready, but that just and you can't

1129
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: predict injuries, you never That's was just a bad luck thing.

1130
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: But that contract just looks worse.

1131
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: It's a disaster. It's a disaster that they would have

1132
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 2: been better off just playing it out the franchise tag.

1133
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: So wait, Tears ACL, then you're just done with them. Yeah, Now,

1134
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: the only the only way it's not a disaster though,

1135
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: if they do, if it does lead them to the

1136
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: number one overall pick, is Caleb can bitch and moan

1137
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: all he wants about not going like he would definitely

1138
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: want to go to the New York Giants, Right, that's

1139
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: chu ching, so that that would be uh and it

1140
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: could let's face it, day Ball went from easy guy

1141
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: to root for to like, we sure that any of

1142
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: these guys know what they're doing and that could save

1143
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: the guy's.

1144
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: Career, right yeah, no, you're right.

1145
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean, even if they get the second pick to

1146
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: get Drake May would be a big deal for them.

1147
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a Giants fan. You want to lose every.

1148
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: Game, big time. Okay, Obviously Joe Burrow's kind of flexing

1149
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 2: his muscles right now. Is one of the best players

1150
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: in the sport. C J. Stroud, Like, let's face it,

1151
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State guys. Before that Georgia game, just obviously he's

1152
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: a good player. But it's kind of like the Alabama

1153
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: thing with Tua and Mac. It's like, well, his team

1154
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: is so much better as receivers, so sweet and than

1155
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: that Georgia game. He's kind of parlaid that Georgia game

1156
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: into like I'm a playmaker. I mean he was. I

1157
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: went back and watched all his passes in that and

1158
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: I understand Tampa's you know, Todd Bowles, who's an awesome

1159
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. You put him a head coach. His defense

1160
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: doesn't look like it does when he's the coordinator. But

1161
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: I mean some of those throws that layered throw toward

1162
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: the end of the game that ultimately led to the

1163
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: touchdown in the corner at like the eleven yard line,

1164
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: was like, damn, that's I look like Joe Burrow or

1165
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So CJ. Stroud I think feels like a

1166
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: lock offensive rookie of the year and just like a

1167
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna change that franchise. Him and Demico gonna

1168
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: be a tandem for a long time. Cincinnati's kind of

1169
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: been rolling high, kicking ass, taking names the last two weeks.

1170
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously kicked the shit out of the Niners.

1171
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: I thought last week the score was closer than the

1172
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: actual game that I witnessed because they shoved the Bills around.

1173
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: There's a big spot for the Texans, who a couple

1174
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago I bet on them and they let me down.

1175
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: Who they losed? It was it Carolina, Carolina. Yeah, that

1176
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: was you know, one of those This game though, it's

1177
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: it's hard like have they arrived or they just like

1178
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: a year, are they a seven and ten team? And

1179
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: then next year when they get some more picks, more

1180
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: free agents, they're you know, competing to be a wild

1181
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: card spot. That's I don't know. I mean, I think

1182
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: this week's a big week. They go in and even

1183
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: just play tight. Maybe you gotta take them for real

1184
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: as a as a playoff contender.

1185
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Stroud is for real. I

1186
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: also think Tank Dell is for real. He's stud He's amazing, amazing.

1187
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: Do you know about that guy in college? I honestly

1188
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know that much about him.

1189
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: I loved him at Houston. He was just an absolute machine.

1190
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: He's like a mini Tyreek and some of and how

1191
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: he can juke and get separation.

1192
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: Feels like, you know, remember when the Colts took t

1193
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: y different player, but he was like, Jesus, this guy

1194
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: is good. That's what this guy. You got this guy

1195
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: in the third round.

1196
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could see it right You could see it

1197
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: right away in his first game. But Stroud is playing.

1198
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's on pace to have one of the

1199
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: best rookie seasons in the history of the NFL for

1200
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: a quarterback. This offense is playing really well. And it

1201
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: all opened. It all happened because of that Carolina loss.

1202
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: So in that game, and this has happened a few

1203
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: other times this year. Slowik, who's a you know, used

1204
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: to be with the forty Shanna had to seal Sometimes

1205
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: he wants to establish the run because that and the

1206
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: forty nine can always do that. You have good backs

1207
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: and good offensive line, but the Texans can't really run it.

1208
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: This year, Pierce doesn't really fit the scheme and then

1209
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: your backups aren't that good. So against Carolina, just kept

1210
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: trying to run it.

1211
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: The Niners also have a blocking tight end and Kittle

1212
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: and a full back and use check so they got

1213
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: like seven offensive linemen.

1214
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the best left tackle in the NFL, and

1215
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: like one of the best running backs like the Texans

1216
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: don't have that. They were at the Panthers. They just

1217
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: kept trying to run it, and run it, run it,

1218
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: and then it's like, please open up the offense. Last week,

1219
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: all early down throws and just let They gave Stroud

1220
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: the keys and they it through for four and fifty yards.

1221
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Tamiko came out after he said, Yeah, this is what

1222
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: we need to do. We need to rely on our strengths.

1223
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: So I'm confident they're going to come out here and

1224
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: let strout throw. And this Bengals defense is vulnerable. Look,

1225
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: they lost both their safeties from last year. Last year

1226
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: they played like ten backup quarterbacks. Their coordinators is very

1227
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: good in a remo, but the secondary I think is overrated.

1228
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: If you and look, they've been getting so lucky their defense,

1229
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: you meant go back to the forty nine ers games

1230
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: had four hundred and sixty yards in that game. For

1231
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: what it's worth, McCaffrey fumble inside the ten. You have

1232
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: to freak pick by the defensive lineman. Go back a

1233
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: week before that. The Bills also freak fumble in the

1234
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: red zone that threw.

1235
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: For three hundred and fifty yards in that game.

1236
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, towards them back to Seattle. Since the game Seattle

1237
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: doubled up. Sinci in yards had four hundred yards when

1238
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: he scored seventeen points. They didn't score. They didn't score

1239
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: in the red zone five times. The last two drives

1240
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: ended in the red zone with no points. Turned it

1241
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: over on downs. They have been getting so lucky. So

1242
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: if you remove so you can look at you know,

1243
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: epa per play on defense, Bengals around middle of the

1244
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: pack defense. But if you remove turnovers and the impact

1245
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: of turnovers, which a lot of times are just blooky.

1246
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: They dropped the twenty fifth twenty fourth against the pass,

1247
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: so this defense is vulnerable and they're beginning away with

1248
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: it. It's also a bad spot for Cincy. Come off that

1249
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: big one against the Bills. You have the Ravens next

1250
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: week could come out a little flat air Jamar Chase

1251
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: also might not play, which would be huge, So you

1252
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: can get it. There's a plus seven minus one fifteen

1253
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: out there. Pay for the seven up to up to

1254
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: minus one twenty. I think it's worth it in this spot.

1255
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: But and Zach Taylor, he's only two small satsides two

1256
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: and five against the spread as a favorite of a

1257
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: touchdown or more. Once when they get a lead, they

1258
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: get a little bit too conservative, and then they don't

1259
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: let Burrow cook. And Burrow's cooking now, I mean, but

1260
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: the Burrow's all the way back. This is gonna be

1261
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: one of the best offens in NFL, especially when Chase

1262
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: is healthy the first six weeks, when Burrow is rusty

1263
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: and dealing with an injury. There's a you can look

1264
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: at yards above replacement adjusted for opponent. You combine all

1265
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: six of Burrow's first starts. He was a total of

1266
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: two yards above a replacement level quarterback two yards over

1267
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: six weeks the last two weeks plus one six one

1268
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: sixty eight last week plus one ninety two. So yeah,

1269
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals off, it's all way back. They're gonna score year.

1270
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: But if they're like up then and I think that

1271
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: ex Houston's gonna come out here and throw from everything

1272
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: I saw last week, all the postgames, and they should

1273
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: be able to throw it on this Bengals defense. But

1274
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: even if they're behind, you know, Stroud can still keep up.

1275
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: They can. They'll start to pass more, and then the

1276
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: Bengals start to go a little bit more conservative, they

1277
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: start to run it. They'll punt it on like fourth

1278
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: and ones. You see some of that with Shanahan and

1279
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: san Franz too sometimes, which is why in the past

1280
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: at times they haven't been great a favorites of a

1281
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: touchdown or more so, I just think that this is

1282
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: getting a touchdown with Stroud and the way this offense

1283
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: is playing against the defense that's been running a little

1284
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: too good, and it's just a good situational spot sandwiched

1285
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: in between Buffalo and Baltimore. And then the Chase injury,

1286
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Like even if he can go, he's probably not gonna

1287
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent. He's one of the best receivers

1288
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Makes it a lot easier on that

1289
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: Houston secondary. So yeah, I'll take I'll take this Houston offense.

1290
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: Scroud in a good spot catching a touchdown right now,

1291
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: even if they're down ten late. You know, have full

1292
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: confidence they can get in the back door. But I

1293
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: think this will be a pretty competitive game, especially if

1294
01:02:58,840 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Chase doesn't.

1295
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: Play anything on h Raiders Jets. You know obviously that

1296
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: that you know, the first time interim head coach, you

1297
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: get a huge should I love the Giants and that

1298
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: you knew about five minutes into that game that was

1299
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: the wrong side the Jets. I mean they you talk

1300
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: about whatever game you were talking about earlier today, they

1301
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: just didn't get the fumbles or whatever. I mean, the

1302
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: Jets could have had a couple picks, some fumbles, just

1303
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: didn't quite go their way in that game against the Chargers.

1304
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: I wonder if that looks a little different against Aidan O'Connell, right,

1305
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: do they get some of those. That's just a fascinating game.

1306
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean on paper, people like Jets Raiders. I can't

1307
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: wait to watch that thing because whoever wins is actually

1308
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: gonna be feeling pretty good, especially the Raiders win. You're like,

1309
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: got is this team kind of alive now? Under it?

1310
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce?

1311
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see if I mean, like the you would

1312
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: have to imagine that going from you know, the.

1313
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: They hated that guy. I can't stop talking about how

1314
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: much they hate the guy.

1315
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then the question is like it was Tommy DeVito, right,

1316
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: so exactly, So we'll learn a lot more this week.

1317
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: And look, the what the Raiders do on defense is

1318
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: they just I mean, Max Crosby's a monster and he'll

1319
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: make All they Raiders do is they say, you're not

1320
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna get explosive plays. It's very smart by their defensive

1321
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: coordinator Graham. They say, you're not gonna get any explosive plays.

1322
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: We don't have great secondary, we don't great linebackers. So

1323
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to work your way down the field

1324
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: and then hopefully by that time and it's worked. It's

1325
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: kept them in games. You know, all their games are

1326
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: like besides last week, they're like twenty to seventeen, twenty

1327
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: to six. They're all at low scoring games and then hopefully,

1328
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, eventually Crosby will make a play or you

1329
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, Peters will jump a route, or you'll you know,

1330
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: have an incompletion or been you have to kick a

1331
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: field goal. That's what they're doing. So quarterbacks that can

1332
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: efficiently move the ball down the field with an efficient

1333
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: passing attack against elite quarterbacks, it's good. It's it's good.

1334
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: It's problematic for the Raiders. I mean, you saw that

1335
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: against Buffalo.

1336
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo, Yeah, destroyed annihilated them.

1337
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: Did Zach Wilson's not capable of doing that. Zach Wilson's

1338
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: numbers against zone are horror and that's all the Raiders

1339
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: run pretty much Cover three are horrifying, and he's.

1340
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: It's why when the Chargers went up seven to nothing,

1341
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: I didn't understand. I understand you can't run the ball. Like,

1342
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: the only way the Jets are gonna be able to

1343
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: score is if you throw it and it tips off

1344
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: a hand, you get a pass rush fumble. I would

1345
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: ran it three and out punt three and out punt,

1346
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: you will win the game.

1347
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1348
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: And he had twenty one pass attempts in the first half,

1349
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: and the Jets were kind of hanging like close. Couple

1350
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: pick sixes and fumble six Like, you guys are playing

1351
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: into their hand. That's the only way they can survive.

1352
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, you gotta feel bad for the jetsd because

1353
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: they've played all these quarterbacks and they've played them all

1354
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: extremely well. Now one's I mean, what did Herbert have

1355
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: like one hundred and thirty yards? Yeah, last week. So yeah,

1356
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: so I don't think the Raiders offense is good to be

1357
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: able to do match. I don't think the Jets offense

1358
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: good will do much. So who's gonna make the mistakes?

1359
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: Can Zack Wilson stay out of his own way?

1360
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1361
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: I agree? It should actually be an intriguing watch. I

1362
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: think Zack Wilson's one point favorite. If I had to,

1363
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: I would just I just don't think Zack Wilson should

1364
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: ever be a favorite on the road. But I don't

1365
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: have a strong It'll basically come down to, like which

1366
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: quarterback makes a bigger mistake. Oh, the Jets defense is

1367
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: more likely to force it, but Jack Wilson is more

1368
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: likely to make it. So it's intriguing that aspect, and

1369
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: I want to see how this Raiders team just continues

1370
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: to respond. So I probably won't bet it, but we'll

1371
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: be interested to watch.

1372
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: Okay, get you out of here on this. If I

1373
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: would have told you started the season that USC was

1374
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: getting fifteen points going to Eugene, you'd be like, oh,

1375
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: Caleb either left the program got hurt, right, and I honestly,

1376
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: after they lost last week, I thought he might just

1377
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I'm over this. Technically they're still alive.

1378
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if they were to win this game, they

1379
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: could still go to the PAC twelve championship game. But

1380
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: that's a lot of points for a guy that's clearly

1381
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: pretty talented. Now, that's a tough place to play at

1382
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: that team. A couple times I came out like gangbusters

1383
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: at home. But fifteen points, Caleb blames it seems like

1384
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: that that extra point, it's a lot.

1385
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look last week UFCO, I mean, the

1386
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: defense was embarrassing as it has been all year, and

1387
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: Washington actually had a smart game plan because USC's secutler

1388
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: isn't bad. Washington has been running it all year, and

1389
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: they ran it and they just weren't touched and you

1390
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: and the Alex Finch never adjusted. USC can o two

1391
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: defensive linemen and just said we're going to take away

1392
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: the pass, and Washington said we're gonna run it and

1393
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: USC never did anything and then Alex Scrinch got fired.

1394
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: But the game that game last week, I mean, if

1395
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: you look at the final score, I'm still surprised you

1396
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: USC didn get in the back door like it. They

1397
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of agreed paid away late. But Washington and de

1398
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: Bor is a great coach late first half, fourth and six,

1399
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: goes for it touchdown, Caleb slopping mistake fumble under a

1400
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: minute touchdown, Washington fourteen points right there, which is the

1401
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: difference in the game because Washington USC's offense did whatever

1402
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: it wanted to. I mean that game, Yeah, we're.

1403
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: Going to You're gonna score one hundred points based on

1404
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: the first half, Like this game is going to be

1405
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: seventy five to seventy.

1406
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: It was insane everyone. If you look at us, see

1407
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: his last twenty runs in that game, that one that

1408
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: went for one, one that went for zero, all the

1409
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: other runs were for ten or more.

1410
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: Are like it was. Oregon's a lot better on defense.

1411
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: Obviously Organ's a lot better on defense. I also just worry, well,

1412
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: like there's two things I don't know. I probably won't

1413
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: bet this game because one like what's USC gonna do

1414
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: on defense? I don't know, Like can you really make

1415
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: that many changes? No defense is gonna be you can't

1416
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: make change like you know week ten, but it's a

1417
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: defense gonna they just don't tackle right, like the amount

1418
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: of mistackles and just laziness. So like without grinch, do

1419
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: they play just as a defense come out more fired

1420
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: up and inspired mate, and then you make some more

1421
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: tackles because I mean, like Bucket Oregon on paper is

1422
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive lines, Bucky Irving, They're gonna

1423
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: just gonna run right over them. And then you have

1424
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: bow next too. But you look at end of day,

1425
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: you're getting fourteen and a half of Kobe. I just

1426
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know where their heads at after last week and

1427
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: they've played nine weeks in a row. Their bye doesn't

1428
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: come until before the Pack twelve Championship, and USC fans

1429
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: were saying before the year, like, oh, yeah, we we

1430
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: have a buy to get ready for the Pack twelve Championship.

1431
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: You're I'm not going to be there. But they've played

1432
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: like every They're the only team in the country that

1433
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: hasn't had a buye I believe, So they got to

1434
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,919
Speaker 1: be pretty exhausted.

1435
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: That's pretty wild.

1436
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

1437
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: So I just don't know the only thing that makes

1438
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: me nervous about taking sc because that's a lot of points,

1439
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: would be if they get down pretty big in like

1440
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: the first app they basically quit, you know, their season

1441
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: would be kind of over, and that that's definitely on

1442
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: the table with with their head coach. They feel like

1443
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 2: they got quit written over them. Sorry with Lincoln.

1444
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing with USC is that Caleb Williams

1445
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: has no like So the defense is so bad. So

1446
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: like everyone, every confident team that you play, scores every possession,

1447
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: right go back to cal Cal put up forty nine

1448
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: and went for two, would have won if they got it.

1449
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: And then Williams, it is receiving Gorerizon as good as

1450
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: it's been, and the offensive line isn't as good as

1451
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: it's been terrible, So he it's basically on him and

1452
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: he's almost keeping up, but he has to make all

1453
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: these plays so and a lot of it's scrambling, creating room.

1454
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: He's got to hold the ball, create room. One fumble

1455
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: like last week, two fumbles, you know, or two or

1456
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: three mistakes like Notre Dame, and then it's a blowout

1457
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: multiple perfect because if he's any mistake, it's seven right

1458
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: away to other team, and then you're down two scores

1459
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: and you're never gonna close the gap. So that's the

1460
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: risk playing when you play USC against over two touchdowns. Yeah,

1461
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: I'd probably take USC or nothing, but I'm not. I'm

1462
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: not betting that team. They've I bet him twice this

1463
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: year was twice too many.

1464
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna think I'm gonna sleep on that one. Okay, Stucky,

1465
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: let's have a good week and let's fucking get the

1466
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: Texans back on the winning circle.

1467
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I have a good one. Talk to you next

1468
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: week

1469
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: Later the volume