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We're gonna be sticking 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:33.560 with the Warriors. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.320 Isaiah Thomas was on the Draymond Green podcast and this 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.000 is what he had to say that Kevin Durant did 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.200 for the Warriors legacy. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:42.360 Let's take a listen to it. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.920 Let me make a both stay here, yes, sir, and 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.520 I hope this don't upset you. Before Kevin Durant arrived 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:55.680 in co Open State, y'all were on the verge and 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.600 then and being remembered as the team that wins seventy 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.040 three and nine and lost to the Cleveland Cavalier team 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.120 in the finals. You up three to one and probably 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:12.040 one of the biggest collapse in NBA Finals history. Kevin 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:17.359 Durant comes that summer and really saves y'all basketball legacy. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.519 You win two championships after that, the Golden State Warriors 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.200 dynasty that you're going to go into the Hall of Fame, 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:29.960 own and everything else. It is cemented because if Durant 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.399 don't come that summer and you guys are remembered as 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.080 the seventy three and nine team, all of your legacies 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.560 are different. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.919 Hey, no, nothing but the part that he left out. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:52.639 It also saved Kd's legacy. If he don't got no championships, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.280 we're not looking at him the same. Gial No Gil. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.880 We gotta speak to what we know. We can't speak 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.639 to what we don't because I can't say man if. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:02.919 Gil, if Gil was. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.160 Six y nine and had help he need for fifteen, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.400 man Gil be going to the Hall, he might have 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.679 him a couple of We gotta deal with what we know. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:18.640 And what we know is Draymond said it. They wouldn't 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.280 have won, They wouldn't have beat Calves. Should never been 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:22.880 the cav again. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.880 If if Kat didn't come right that came out of 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.800 Draymond Green's mouth before. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.280 We didn't need Draymond to tell us that we knew 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.120 that you get chased down three to one, Gill, you 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:34.920 ain't beating. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:39.160 That team again. Now, Now this is the problem here, though, Okay, Toby, to. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:46.920 One player, legacy was sacrifice for three other players legacy. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.000 See Kevin Durant going there. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.320 Yeah, he gave him two championships, two finals MVPs, but 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.080 no one respected him in the media world. While that 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:02.560 same move cement hid three players in the Hall of Fame, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.400 one as probably the best point guard that ever played. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.040 That's gonna get a statue right top seventy five. His 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:19.080 sacrifice gave him that right. And that is the reality 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.719 of it, because without those two championships, we don't know 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.599 what happens to Golden State because they was laughed at. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.400 They were not sure that summer, and when Katie went there, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:36.799 that stopped all laughs. Nobody remembered what just happened. Nobody 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.520 even started talking. Nobody talked about the Calves as a 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:45.400 defending hips right soon as Katie said, I'm going there. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:51.280 The championship was Golden States and all and all they 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:52.120 had to do was the liver. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:56.839 But the problem was his legacy was tainted forever because 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:57.120 of it. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:04.880 Yes, and Steph Curry's plays elevated, elevated, and that that's 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.640 the only problem I have. It is like, damn you, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:12.440 you sacrifice one to build up three. Yep, But he 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.680 did it. He felt that's what he needed to do. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.000 But the media can't be mad at these players because 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.800 y'all put so much. They're putting so much emphasis on rings, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.760 so guys feel like, Okay, I'll give me a ring. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.320 KT said, Okay, I'll go grab me a ring or two. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.039 And then what y'all gonna say. Y'all might not like 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.760 the manner in which I got him, but I got him. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.479 Y'all can't say I'm not a champion. Ye, So I 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.000 don't begrudge a player because this is what you force 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.799 those guys to do because you don't evaluate the player 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.280 on what you see. You're like, well, if you don't 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.360 want to role, do you understand that it takes a 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.640 team to win title? See what I think what fans 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:54.200 get mad about and they. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:57.440 Don't get mad if teams put them together. Look at 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:04.320 those Lakers teams. The Lakers had Kareem and Magic and 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.640 got the number one pick Worthy the year. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:12.039 That made the year that Magic got drafted. That same year, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.279 Kareem won the MVP. So can you tell me you 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.120 think that's so? What's the likelihood of the team that 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.680 wins the MVP, the team that wins the championship, the 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.360 player that they draft somebody from that, it's gonna turn 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:30.400 out to be Magic won the finals MVP. You're never 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.719 going to see that again. You're never going to see 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.240 a rookie win the finals MVP. Gill, I hope you 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.640 enjoyed it. I'm old enough to remember when it happened. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.440 But had Kareem not missed that game, people don't realize 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:42.840 how good Kareem was in that series. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.919 Kareem was averaging thirty three and thirteen. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.000 Go look it up. Yeah, Kareem was averaging thirty three 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:49.719 and thirteen. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:50.560 And now you get it. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.080 It's still are You're like, I'd imagine get this when 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.000 Kareem was being so dominant. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.359 Averaging five blocks that for that series. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.240 Yes, the only the only team that can can actually 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:02.920 do some damage like that. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.160 It's okay, see since they have two damn near lottery 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.800 first round pick. Yes they sneak and. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.120 Getting two good players with the team they have, but 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.880 he ain't gonna be They're not going to the MVP 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:13.520 over shape. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:15.920 But that what I'm saying is that don't even exist 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.680 anymore of what's going on back then in the age seventy. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.760 Right, because if you look at look at those Celtics teams. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:27.160 They had Bird top seventy five, Parish top seventy five, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.720 McHale top seventy five, all of them together. Okay, they 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.360 had Tiny Archibald in one of those championship teams top 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.280 seventy five. They had Dennis Johnson on that team, who 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.840 was a Finals MVP and a defensive Player of the Year. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.520 On that team, they had Bill. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.320 They had Bill Walton, even though he wasn't the same, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.480 he was a Finals MVP and a league MVP and 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:48.200 sixth Man. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:48.560 Of the Year. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.680 Okay, we're gonna go to the Lakers. The Lakers had 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.120 Kareem I don't need to say anything. They had Magic, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.800 I don't need to say anything. They had Bob McAdoo. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:04.360 They had Jamal Wills, so they had James Worthy. So 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:10.000 let's not pretend they've always been superteamed. The only difference 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.160 is team of the general manager. They put those teams together. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.200 So I don't care if it's a super team as 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.640 long as my home. If KD don't go join Golden 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.680 State or Lebron doesn't go join Miami or this one 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.840 or that one, it can be a superteam. But I 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.160 just don't want the players medaling because they've always been 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.559 super teams. Go look at those teams that Philadelphia seventy 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.040 six ers. You don't think Moses alone and doctor j 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.800 and then got Charles Barklay. Yes, they had Bobby Jones. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:45.160 Even Boston. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.640 Even when you're talking about Bill Russell back then, people 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.760 don't have Bill Russell's rookie year. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.120 Another rule, even win rookie of your Tom Heysen did. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.679 Yeah, and it was an all saw on the team. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.800 So how good was the team's back then? 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.720 Like these guys, That's why I said, like it's it's 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.480 it's been super teams. It's always going to be super teams. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.440 But when the player says all right, because no one 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:18.040 does this, no one, no one pushes this, this this 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.600 narrative on the owners. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.880 No one goes back and say, hey man, this owner sucks. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.760 This owner's not. They did it with Donald Sterling when 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.280 they wanted to. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.280 Get rid of them, yes, but before that they're not like, hey, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.079 he's he's never he's never resigning any players. He just 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.480 drafting them, letting them go, drafting them, letting them go. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.880 And all other ones were like, I like his bottle, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.800 that's money. So when players are sitting these these teams. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.800 They're like, well, he's just got pointless stats. He ain't 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:52.320 winning over there, and you're like, well he's not paying anybody, right, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.400 this man is not anybody, so let me leave. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.800 Oh you can't. You ain't a winner. That was the 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.560 ultimate super the Celtics in the sixty with the ultimate 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:01.160 super team. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.600 They had ten Hall of famers. Yes, they had twelve 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.080 players on the roster. John Habler, Chack came off the bench. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.840 How you gonna gout come off the bench, Dave Cowen's MVP. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.200 You had Sam Jones, Casey Jones, Coozy, Tom Hys and 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:25.080 Don Nelson, Bill Russell Haler check what damn Bill Sharp? 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.719 How many players you won't? Yeah, because they didn't have 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.760 free agency. They didn't have free agency. Then either, he's 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:36.400 just trade so what So what happened is if I 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.400 don't like you, I'm gonna trade him. I'm gonna trade 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.440 my asset to the team that you don't like her. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.280 And you're beat here with people that they did that 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.960 back then. Yes, I'm gonna trade him my players because 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.559 I don't want to pay him. And then you go 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.040 on and keep whipping his ass. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.800 Yeah, I mean when they had when the Lakers had, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:59.800 they had they had Will that had Jared Wes, they 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.160 had had Elgin Baylor, they had Gail Good. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.839 I mean, look it all the top twenty five. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.880 Go look at the top seventy five and see how 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.400 many Celtics and Lakers. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.200 You when you go back to the top, when you 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.840 do top fifty, right the top fifty ship all. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.640 Celtics, Damnars, Celtics. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.400 Thirty nine or forty of them came from big city 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:27.160 teams well top ten players of all time. The only 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.480 person that comes from a small city that broke. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:35.520 Through is Duncan. Everybody else is a Laker, a Celtics, yep, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.520 layer Celticket and you can throw in Philly. But other 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.640 than that, it's a big city. That's that's what they 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.000 go off of. This wasn't all it. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.360 Isaiah Thomas, the Big Isaiah told Drake Isaiah still wants 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.640 an apology from Michael Jordan. I don't believe it's coming, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.480 or being called an asshole. In the twenty twenty Docus 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.360 series The Last Dance, he explained to Dre why his 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.000 relationship with Jordan is in so Southager. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.720 Let's take a listen to what Isaiah had to say, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:07.520 where's your relationship at today? And is that salvageable? Dude? No, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:08.560 not salvageable. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:14.840 This dude got on national television, international television and called 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.880 me an asshole somebody who's been really good to him. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:20.240 And until he. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:26.000 Apologizes on international television, we. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:27.880 Know, conversation. You can't. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.480 You can't apologize and have a private dinner when you 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:37.240 didn't embarrass me publicly. If you didn't mean it, say 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.040 it publicly. Now if you meant it, let us stand. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.280 I'm good with that. Isaiah. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.840 You know you my dog. You don't get that apology. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.079 See here's the thing, See Gil, this is this is 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.800 the great part about being as old as I am. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:00.400 Isaiah, them didn't do this. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.560 Go back and look what happened when Isaiah when the 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:10.280 Detroit Pistons beat the Boston Celtics. See how many bird 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.800 of Michale and them. See what they did when Isaiah 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.400 and them beat them, They walked off the court. It 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.120 ain't nobody say a damn word. No, not what Go 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.120 back and look it up, chat you see what happened. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.560 Isaiah also said, he said what normally would happen when 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.360 the team would win the finals, the Eastern Conference of 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.480 Western Conference finals. They would all come into the locker 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.960 room after a congratulations blah blah blah blah blah. I 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:39.160 don't know if that's the case, but that's what Zeke 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:40.240 said used to happen. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.920 I just know, I just know when they beat them, 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:51.319 and what was that eighty eight? Isaiah then went to 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.400 the finals three. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.079 They well, they locked, they lost, they lost. No, no, no, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:03.839 they won. Okay, they won eighty nine and ninety. They 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:08.520 lost in eighty eight. But I think didn't it because 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.400 I think because I think the Lakers beat them twice 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.400 in the fight. Didn't Lakers beat Nah? They Yeah, no 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:18.000 they didn't. They beat Philly twice, they beat Boston once, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.120 and they beat. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.880 To beat Boston twice. No, yeah, they be They be 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:30.560 Boston eighty five in eighty seven to beat the bistiness 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.400 eighty eight. Yeah that was you go. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.200 Back and look it up, Go back and look it up. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.040 So I don't know what the protocol was. I just 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:41.960 know what I saw. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:48.360 So so Isaiah, Isaiah and them didn't start when you lose, oh, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.160 just walk off the court and don't congratulate the winning team. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:52.560 Isaiah and them didn't start that. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.840 No, This wasn't This was never about team ship, to 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:00.760 be honest, this is about personal, personal relationships, right, this 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:06.120 was a personal thing. Whenever a team got beat football basketball, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.000 you rarely see the losing team clapping hands with the 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.560 winner because the winners of celebrating the risks, running around jumping, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:20.520 only friends are touching the other friend. Like if I 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.440 won or I lost, and my boy just won a championship, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.800 our friendship is the reason I'm gonna go say what's up? 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.760 Like a congratulations doll? Was the problem with them too. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:36.360 Jordan's friendship to Isaiah when Isaiah won was a handshake. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.920 When Isaiah lost, Jordan has a friend to Isaiah was 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.400 like I want the same respect and in fact that 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.360 Isaiah walked off, Jordan took it personal. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.480 Yes, it didn't have nothing to do with it. Oh, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.640 we shook y'all hands, y'all shook y'all. No, no, no, I 0:15:55.720 --> 0:16:00.600 shook your hand. You're supposed to shape mind. I don't care. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.080 He didn't care about the rest. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.720 Of the team. It was it was a guy that 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.680 he felt was a friend of his right, and this 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.119 goes that was the issue. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:15.560 Look, this goes back to the All Star Game when 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.160 Jordan believed that Isaiah had something to do with them 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:23.200 freezing him out, and then all this we know, they 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.520 can deny it till the cows come home. Isaiah should 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.320 have been on that dream team. All this notion, well, 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.080 he didn't blend and he didn't fit. You said, Isaiah 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.200 was the second best point guard behind us, behind Magic Johnson. 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.000 He was better than John Stocked. I don't care what 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.000 y'all say. Yeah, and they know it, and they and 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.680 for all these players now to get up there years later, nobody, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.200 it's not about being liked. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.479 Nobody liked Isaiah. Y'all say, y'all took the best players. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.800 Y'all make it seem like alls so so so now 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.760 all this stuff about y'all y'all fighting you so all, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.680 y'all buddy buddy hunh, because that's not what you're saying, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.680 that's not what you get on TV and say. Now, 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.679 but now all of a sudden, your buddy buddy Isaiah 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.160 should have been on that team. Isaiah should have been 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.200 Isaiah should have been on that team. And I don't 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.359 care when any of the eleven to twelve guys that 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.320 made the team, Isaiah should have been on that team. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.720 So they robbed him in eighty because the Olympics was 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.040 boycotted because the Soviets inladed Afghanistan and Carter didn't send 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.520 the Olympic team. So by that time, Isaiah was a 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.840 In eighty one, Isaiah got drafted and then he couldn't play. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.479 He couldn't play in the Olympics until they started taking pros. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.040 And the only reason they started taking pros because in 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.840 eighty eight the Brazilian team led by Oscar Smith kicked 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:51.399 the living daylights out of the Americans. Go back and 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.600 look it up. I think he dropped forty eight on him. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.880 I mean, everything is personal when it comes to certain 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.000 things like that, it is personal. It's not like it's 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:04.280 not a team that that the the the the USA 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.280 Games We've been going to this whole time. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.040 It's purpose. Relationships has nothing to do with talent. Like 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.200 look at the line as we have, say, the most 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.240 talented players in the league, some of them the last 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.040 the last People team four players didn't even start on 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.520 the NBA team ripping the USA Game. Like come on, man, 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.680 this is all this is all relationships. So hey, Isaiah, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.960 we we we understand, we get it. But I can 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:34.600 tell you this. I don't know. I don't know if 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.439 you watched the last dance, I don't know if you've 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:42.359 been watching watch relationships right the luck. Yeah, he ain't 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.040 talking to ten years. Ain't no coming back. It's been 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.680 gone that ship. I don't even know if he talked 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:56.640 to a bull. Besides, Okay, that's it. That's it, that's it. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:58.680 That's it. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:18:59.400 Ya. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.480 I hope, I hope, I SA like I said, I 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.199 know Z and but ill don't. Don't don't. Don't you 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.600 wait for that apology? Kill No he Jeorde is sending 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:14.879 on business. George sending on business. He ain't messing with 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.240 none of y'all. No, he absolutely not. 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:23.920 Uh. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.320 Devin Booker explains the depth of the NBA Ribbery book. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.280 Went on JJ Reddick's podcast and had this to say 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.719 about it. Let's take a listen to the sound. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.520 I said, there's no real ribberies because you know, I say, 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.840 grassroots basketball. Like a lot of these guys, we've we've 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:47.200 known him for a really long time, and I think 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.760 people just realize that, you know, it's it's not that deep. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:57.080 At the time, I've been saying that there was no au. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.480 I mean, these guys played, they are the same AAU team, 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.480 or they've been seeing each other again since they were thirteen. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.320 A lot of them say, where you going to school? 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.560 At Man? You're going to Kentucky? Me too, You're going 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.120 to do Yeah? Me too? You going to you going 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:12.640 to Kansas? Me too? Yeah. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:17.600 So there is no bitterness because now I grew up 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.200 playing against you, probably knowing you since you were twelve. 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:20.720 Yep. 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.199 How do I build up a resentment against somebody that 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.080 I've known since I was twelve. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.560 Played against them, played with them, train with them. Now, 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.840 now you gotta remember, like like people like uh. 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:37.280 Grover back in the day, there's twenty NBA players in 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:41.360 that facility working out right, playing pickup games with each other. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:46.439 Same thing, uh uh in Vegas? Same thing here. These 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.600 guys are training with each other. So if there is beef, 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.520 they might have the same trainer and that train is 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.040 gonna you know, they we're gonna work out together, and 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.760 you put them all there together. So this this this 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:02.920 beef that everyone is taken from way back in the day, 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:05.080 that don't exist. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:10.520 Punches don't cost twenty five dollars, no more. Exactly, it don't. 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:15.000 It costs five hundred. It costs ye fifty thousand. That 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:19.840 elbow Lebron gave young fella that little elbow. Ooh yeah, 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.399 he missed one game, three hundred and ninety thousand. That 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:24.800 elbow cost him. 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.439 Not a punch, not a fight, just it looked like 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:33.000 you almost hit him on purpose. Yeah, three hundred n man, Listen, 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.080 I don't hate nobody for that price. 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:41.080 Nah, he'll no twenty five dollars akasaka, akasack somebody or two, 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:45.320 but twenty Look at swing on somebody for twenty five dollars. 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.160 I mean, think about it if you if you yank 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.440 somebody at the era, like Michael yank Ram. Besides, how 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.520 how many game you think they're gonna miss Gil? Now? 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.760 Yeah, you yanking some Oh, they gonna give you three 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.199 to five for you first time offence, and that depending 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.639 on who you are, that can be a million and 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:09.280 a half to him. That's that you bess right. Let 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:10.960 it be a star player. You ain't got there. You 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:12.360 might get five a teen game. 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:23.480 Listen, Stewart him chasing Lebron. That cost him thirty thousand. Yeah, 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.720 you can see why his ass acting the month he 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:32.359 only loses about thirty thousand dollars. He don't care about 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.440 that little money. I see, that's a little money. Yeah, 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.960 but when it costs you three hundred and ninety thousand 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.640 and half a million, five hundred yeah, yeah a million. Listen. 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.680 I don't got any brother, I don't got that type 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:48.400 of energy. Yeah we hey, hold me back. Were good, 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:53.040 We're good. But I've been saying this. I said, it's different. 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.679 Now I say, you know, it ain't just seeing the 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.400 guy at the McDonald's All American Game or you see 0:22:58.400 --> 0:22:59.960 the guy show up at one All Star game. 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.399 These guys literally grew. 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:09.679 Up playing against each other for seven years from the 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:13.239 time they was like ten or eleven, and then they 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.760 played one year of college ball against each other, and 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.560