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We're gonna be sticking 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: with the Warriors. 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas was on the Draymond Green podcast and this 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: is what he had to say that Kevin Durant did 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: for the Warriors legacy. 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to it. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: Let me make a both stay here, yes, sir, and 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 5: I hope this don't upset you. Before Kevin Durant arrived 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: in co Open State, y'all were on the verge and 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: then and being remembered as the team that wins seventy 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: three and nine and lost to the Cleveland Cavalier team 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: in the finals. You up three to one and probably 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: one of the biggest collapse in NBA Finals history. Kevin 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 5: Durant comes that summer and really saves y'all basketball legacy. 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 5: You win two championships after that, the Golden State Warriors 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 5: dynasty that you're going to go into the Hall of Fame, 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: own and everything else. It is cemented because if Durant 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 5: don't come that summer and you guys are remembered as 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 5: the seventy three and nine team, all of your legacies 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: are different. 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 6: Hey, no, nothing but the part that he left out. 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: It also saved Kd's legacy. If he don't got no championships, 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: we're not looking at him the same. Gial No Gil. 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: We gotta speak to what we know. We can't speak 50 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: to what we don't because I can't say man if. 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: Gil, if Gil was. 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Six y nine and had help he need for fifteen, 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: man Gil be going to the Hall, he might have 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: him a couple of We gotta deal with what we know. 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: And what we know is Draymond said it. They wouldn't 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: have won, They wouldn't have beat Calves. Should never been 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: the cav again. 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 6: If if Kat didn't come right that came out of 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 6: Draymond Green's mouth before. 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: We didn't need Draymond to tell us that we knew 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: that you get chased down three to one, Gill, you 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: ain't beating. 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: That team again. Now, Now this is the problem here, though, Okay, Toby, to. 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 6: One player, legacy was sacrifice for three other players legacy. 65 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: See Kevin Durant going there. 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, he gave him two championships, two finals MVPs, but 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 6: no one respected him in the media world. While that 68 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 6: same move cement hid three players in the Hall of Fame, 69 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 6: one as probably the best point guard that ever played. 70 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 6: That's gonna get a statue right top seventy five. His 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 6: sacrifice gave him that right. And that is the reality 72 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 6: of it, because without those two championships, we don't know 73 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 6: what happens to Golden State because they was laughed at. 74 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 6: They were not sure that summer, and when Katie went there, 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 6: that stopped all laughs. Nobody remembered what just happened. Nobody 76 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 6: even started talking. Nobody talked about the Calves as a 77 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: defending hips right soon as Katie said, I'm going there. 78 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: The championship was Golden States and all and all they 79 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: had to do was the liver. 80 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 6: But the problem was his legacy was tainted forever because 81 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 6: of it. 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: Yes, and Steph Curry's plays elevated, elevated, and that that's 83 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: the only problem I have. It is like, damn you, 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: you sacrifice one to build up three. Yep, But he 85 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: did it. He felt that's what he needed to do. 86 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: But the media can't be mad at these players because 87 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: y'all put so much. They're putting so much emphasis on rings, 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: so guys feel like, Okay, I'll give me a ring. 89 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: KT said, Okay, I'll go grab me a ring or two. 90 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: And then what y'all gonna say. Y'all might not like 91 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: the manner in which I got him, but I got him. 92 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: Y'all can't say I'm not a champion. Ye, So I 93 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: don't begrudge a player because this is what you force 94 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: those guys to do because you don't evaluate the player 95 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: on what you see. You're like, well, if you don't 96 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: want to role, do you understand that it takes a 97 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: team to win title? See what I think what fans 98 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: get mad about and they. 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: Don't get mad if teams put them together. Look at 100 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: those Lakers teams. The Lakers had Kareem and Magic and 101 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: got the number one pick Worthy the year. 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: That made the year that Magic got drafted. That same year, 103 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: Kareem won the MVP. So can you tell me you 104 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: think that's so? What's the likelihood of the team that 105 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: wins the MVP, the team that wins the championship, the 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: player that they draft somebody from that, it's gonna turn 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: out to be Magic won the finals MVP. You're never 108 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: going to see that again. You're never going to see 109 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: a rookie win the finals MVP. Gill, I hope you 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I'm old enough to remember when it happened. 111 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: But had Kareem not missed that game, people don't realize 112 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: how good Kareem was in that series. 113 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: Kareem was averaging thirty three and thirteen. 114 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 6: Go look it up. Yeah, Kareem was averaging thirty three 115 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 6: and thirteen. 116 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: And now you get it. 117 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 6: It's still are You're like, I'd imagine get this when 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: Kareem was being so dominant. 119 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: Averaging five blocks that for that series. 120 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 6: Yes, the only the only team that can can actually 121 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 6: do some damage like that. 122 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: It's okay, see since they have two damn near lottery 123 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: first round pick. Yes they sneak and. 124 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Getting two good players with the team they have, but 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: he ain't gonna be They're not going to the MVP 126 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: over shape. 127 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: But that what I'm saying is that don't even exist 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: anymore of what's going on back then in the age seventy. 129 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Right, because if you look at look at those Celtics teams. 130 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: They had Bird top seventy five, Parish top seventy five, 131 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: McHale top seventy five, all of them together. Okay, they 132 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: had Tiny Archibald in one of those championship teams top 133 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: seventy five. They had Dennis Johnson on that team, who 134 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: was a Finals MVP and a defensive Player of the Year. 135 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: On that team, they had Bill. 136 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: They had Bill Walton, even though he wasn't the same, 137 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: he was a Finals MVP and a league MVP and 138 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: sixth Man. 139 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: Of the Year. 140 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna go to the Lakers. The Lakers had 141 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: Kareem I don't need to say anything. They had Magic, 142 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: I don't need to say anything. They had Bob McAdoo. 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: They had Jamal Wills, so they had James Worthy. So 144 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: let's not pretend they've always been superteamed. The only difference 145 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: is team of the general manager. They put those teams together. 146 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: So I don't care if it's a super team as 147 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: long as my home. If KD don't go join Golden 148 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: State or Lebron doesn't go join Miami or this one 149 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: or that one, it can be a superteam. But I 150 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: just don't want the players medaling because they've always been 151 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: super teams. Go look at those teams that Philadelphia seventy 152 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: six ers. You don't think Moses alone and doctor j 153 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: and then got Charles Barklay. Yes, they had Bobby Jones. 154 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: Even Boston. 155 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 6: Even when you're talking about Bill Russell back then, people 156 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 6: don't have Bill Russell's rookie year. 157 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: Another rule, even win rookie of your Tom Heysen did. 158 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it was an all saw on the team. 159 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: So how good was the team's back then? 160 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 6: Like these guys, That's why I said, like it's it's 161 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 6: it's been super teams. It's always going to be super teams. 162 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: But when the player says all right, because no one 163 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: does this, no one, no one pushes this, this this 164 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: narrative on the owners. 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 6: No one goes back and say, hey man, this owner sucks. 166 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: This owner's not. They did it with Donald Sterling when 167 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: they wanted to. 168 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 6: Get rid of them, yes, but before that they're not like, hey, 169 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 6: he's he's never he's never resigning any players. He just 170 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: drafting them, letting them go, drafting them, letting them go. 171 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 6: And all other ones were like, I like his bottle, 172 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 6: that's money. So when players are sitting these these teams. 173 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 6: They're like, well, he's just got pointless stats. He ain't 174 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 6: winning over there, and you're like, well he's not paying anybody, right, 175 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: this man is not anybody, so let me leave. 176 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: Oh you can't. You ain't a winner. That was the 177 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: ultimate super the Celtics in the sixty with the ultimate 178 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: super team. 179 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: They had ten Hall of famers. Yes, they had twelve 180 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: players on the roster. John Habler, Chack came off the bench. 181 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: How you gonna gout come off the bench, Dave Cowen's MVP. 182 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: You had Sam Jones, Casey Jones, Coozy, Tom Hys and 183 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: Don Nelson, Bill Russell Haler check what damn Bill Sharp? 184 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: How many players you won't? Yeah, because they didn't have 185 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: free agency. They didn't have free agency. Then either, he's 186 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: just trade so what So what happened is if I 187 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: don't like you, I'm gonna trade him. I'm gonna trade 188 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: my asset to the team that you don't like her. 189 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: And you're beat here with people that they did that 190 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: back then. Yes, I'm gonna trade him my players because 191 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: I don't want to pay him. And then you go 192 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: on and keep whipping his ass. 193 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when they had when the Lakers had, 194 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: they had they had Will that had Jared Wes, they 195 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: had had Elgin Baylor, they had Gail Good. 196 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: I mean, look it all the top twenty five. 197 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: Go look at the top seventy five and see how 198 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: many Celtics and Lakers. 199 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 6: You when you go back to the top, when you 200 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 6: do top fifty, right the top fifty ship all. 201 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: Celtics, Damnars, Celtics. 202 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 6: Thirty nine or forty of them came from big city 203 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 6: teams well top ten players of all time. The only 204 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 6: person that comes from a small city that broke. 205 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: Through is Duncan. Everybody else is a Laker, a Celtics, yep, 206 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: layer Celticket and you can throw in Philly. But other 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: than that, it's a big city. That's that's what they 208 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: go off of. This wasn't all it. 209 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas, the Big Isaiah told Drake Isaiah still wants 210 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: an apology from Michael Jordan. I don't believe it's coming, 211 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: or being called an asshole. In the twenty twenty Docus 212 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: series The Last Dance, he explained to Dre why his 213 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: relationship with Jordan is in so Southager. 214 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what Isaiah had to say, 215 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: where's your relationship at today? And is that salvageable? Dude? No, 216 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: not salvageable. 217 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: This dude got on national television, international television and called 218 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 5: me an asshole somebody who's been really good to him. 219 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: And until he. 220 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 5: Apologizes on international television, we. 221 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Know, conversation. You can't. 222 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: You can't apologize and have a private dinner when you 223 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 5: didn't embarrass me publicly. If you didn't mean it, say 224 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: it publicly. Now if you meant it, let us stand. 225 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm good with that. Isaiah. 226 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: You know you my dog. You don't get that apology. 227 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: See here's the thing, See Gil, this is this is 228 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: the great part about being as old as I am. 229 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: Isaiah, them didn't do this. 230 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: Go back and look what happened when Isaiah when the 231 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons beat the Boston Celtics. See how many bird 232 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: of Michale and them. See what they did when Isaiah 233 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: and them beat them, They walked off the court. It 234 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: ain't nobody say a damn word. No, not what Go 235 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: back and look it up, chat you see what happened. 236 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: Isaiah also said, he said what normally would happen when 237 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: the team would win the finals, the Eastern Conference of 238 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Western Conference finals. They would all come into the locker 239 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: room after a congratulations blah blah blah blah blah. I 240 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: don't know if that's the case, but that's what Zeke 241 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: said used to happen. 242 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: I just know, I just know when they beat them, 243 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: and what was that eighty eight? Isaiah then went to 244 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: the finals three. 245 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: They well, they locked, they lost, they lost. No, no, no, 246 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: they won. Okay, they won eighty nine and ninety. They 247 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: lost in eighty eight. But I think didn't it because 248 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: I think because I think the Lakers beat them twice 249 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: in the fight. Didn't Lakers beat Nah? They Yeah, no 250 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: they didn't. They beat Philly twice, they beat Boston once, 251 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: and they beat. 252 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: To beat Boston twice. No, yeah, they be They be 253 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: Boston eighty five in eighty seven to beat the bistiness 254 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: eighty eight. Yeah that was you go. 255 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Back and look it up, Go back and look it up. 256 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: So I don't know what the protocol was. I just 257 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: know what I saw. 258 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: So so Isaiah, Isaiah and them didn't start when you lose, oh, 259 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: just walk off the court and don't congratulate the winning team. 260 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: Isaiah and them didn't start that. 261 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: No, This wasn't This was never about team ship, to 262 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 6: be honest, this is about personal, personal relationships, right, this 263 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 6: was a personal thing. Whenever a team got beat football basketball, 264 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 6: you rarely see the losing team clapping hands with the 265 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 6: winner because the winners of celebrating the risks, running around jumping, 266 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 6: only friends are touching the other friend. Like if I 267 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: won or I lost, and my boy just won a championship, 268 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 6: our friendship is the reason I'm gonna go say what's up? 269 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Like a congratulations doll? Was the problem with them too. 270 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: Jordan's friendship to Isaiah when Isaiah won was a handshake. 271 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: When Isaiah lost, Jordan has a friend to Isaiah was 272 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: like I want the same respect and in fact that 273 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Isaiah walked off, Jordan took it personal. 274 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: Yes, it didn't have nothing to do with it. Oh, 275 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 6: we shook y'all hands, y'all shook y'all. No, no, no, I 276 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 6: shook your hand. You're supposed to shape mind. I don't care. 277 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 6: He didn't care about the rest. 278 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: Of the team. It was it was a guy that 279 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: he felt was a friend of his right, and this 280 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,119 Speaker 3: goes that was the issue. 281 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: Look, this goes back to the All Star Game when 282 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: Jordan believed that Isaiah had something to do with them 283 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: freezing him out, and then all this we know, they 284 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: can deny it till the cows come home. Isaiah should 285 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: have been on that dream team. All this notion, well, 286 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: he didn't blend and he didn't fit. You said, Isaiah 287 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: was the second best point guard behind us, behind Magic Johnson. 288 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: He was better than John Stocked. I don't care what 289 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: y'all say. Yeah, and they know it, and they and 290 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: for all these players now to get up there years later, nobody, 291 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: it's not about being liked. 292 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 2: Nobody liked Isaiah. Y'all say, y'all took the best players. 293 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: Y'all make it seem like alls so so so now 294 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: all this stuff about y'all y'all fighting you so all, 295 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: y'all buddy buddy hunh, because that's not what you're saying, 296 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: that's not what you get on TV and say. Now, 297 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: but now all of a sudden, your buddy buddy Isaiah 298 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: should have been on that team. Isaiah should have been 299 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: Isaiah should have been on that team. And I don't 300 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: care when any of the eleven to twelve guys that 301 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: made the team, Isaiah should have been on that team. 302 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: So they robbed him in eighty because the Olympics was 303 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: boycotted because the Soviets inladed Afghanistan and Carter didn't send 304 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: the Olympic team. So by that time, Isaiah was a 305 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: In eighty one, Isaiah got drafted and then he couldn't play. 306 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 2: He couldn't play in the Olympics until they started taking pros. 307 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: And the only reason they started taking pros because in 308 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: eighty eight the Brazilian team led by Oscar Smith kicked 309 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: the living daylights out of the Americans. Go back and 310 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: look it up. I think he dropped forty eight on him. 311 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 6: I mean, everything is personal when it comes to certain 312 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 6: things like that, it is personal. It's not like it's 313 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 6: not a team that that the the the the USA 314 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: Games We've been going to this whole time. 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: It's purpose. Relationships has nothing to do with talent. Like 316 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: look at the line as we have, say, the most 317 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: talented players in the league, some of them the last 318 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: the last People team four players didn't even start on 319 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: the NBA team ripping the USA Game. Like come on, man, 320 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: this is all this is all relationships. So hey, Isaiah, 321 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: we we we understand, we get it. But I can 322 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: tell you this. I don't know. I don't know if 323 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: you watched the last dance, I don't know if you've 324 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: been watching watch relationships right the luck. Yeah, he ain't 325 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: talking to ten years. Ain't no coming back. It's been 326 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: gone that ship. I don't even know if he talked 327 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: to a bull. Besides, Okay, that's it. That's it, that's it. 328 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 7: That's it. 329 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 8: Ya. 330 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope, I SA like I said, I 331 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: know Z and but ill don't. Don't don't. Don't you 332 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: wait for that apology? Kill No he Jeorde is sending 333 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: on business. George sending on business. He ain't messing with 334 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: none of y'all. No, he absolutely not. 335 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 9: Uh. 336 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: Devin Booker explains the depth of the NBA Ribbery book. 337 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: Went on JJ Reddick's podcast and had this to say 338 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 2: about it. Let's take a listen to the sound. 339 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: I said, there's no real ribberies because you know, I say, 340 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: grassroots basketball. Like a lot of these guys, we've we've 341 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: known him for a really long time, and I think 342 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: people just realize that, you know, it's it's not that deep. 343 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: At the time, I've been saying that there was no au. 344 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean, these guys played, they are the same AAU team, 345 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: or they've been seeing each other again since they were thirteen. 346 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: A lot of them say, where you going to school? 347 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: At Man? You're going to Kentucky? Me too, You're going 348 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 3: to do Yeah? Me too? You going to you going 349 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: to Kansas? Me too? Yeah. 350 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: So there is no bitterness because now I grew up 351 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: playing against you, probably knowing you since you were twelve. 352 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 353 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: How do I build up a resentment against somebody that 354 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: I've known since I was twelve. 355 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Played against them, played with them, train with them. Now, 356 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: now you gotta remember, like like people like uh. 357 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 6: Grover back in the day, there's twenty NBA players in 358 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 6: that facility working out right, playing pickup games with each other. 359 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 6: Same thing, uh uh in Vegas? Same thing here. These 360 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 6: guys are training with each other. So if there is beef, 361 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 6: they might have the same trainer and that train is 362 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 6: gonna you know, they we're gonna work out together, and 363 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 6: you put them all there together. So this this this 364 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 6: beef that everyone is taken from way back in the day, 365 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 6: that don't exist. 366 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: Punches don't cost twenty five dollars, no more. Exactly, it don't. 367 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: It costs five hundred. It costs ye fifty thousand. That 368 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: elbow Lebron gave young fella that little elbow. Ooh yeah, 369 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: he missed one game, three hundred and ninety thousand. That 370 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: elbow cost him. 371 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 6: Not a punch, not a fight, just it looked like 372 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 6: you almost hit him on purpose. Yeah, three hundred n man, Listen, 373 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 6: I don't hate nobody for that price. 374 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: Nah, he'll no twenty five dollars akasaka, akasack somebody or two, 375 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: but twenty Look at swing on somebody for twenty five dollars. 376 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it if you if you yank 377 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: somebody at the era, like Michael yank Ram. Besides, how 378 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: how many game you think they're gonna miss Gil? Now? 379 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, you yanking some Oh, they gonna give you three 380 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 6: to five for you first time offence, and that depending 381 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 6: on who you are, that can be a million and 382 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: a half to him. That's that you bess right. Let 383 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 6: it be a star player. You ain't got there. You 384 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 6: might get five a teen game. 385 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: Listen, Stewart him chasing Lebron. That cost him thirty thousand. Yeah, 386 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: you can see why his ass acting the month he 387 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: only loses about thirty thousand dollars. He don't care about 388 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: that little money. I see, that's a little money. Yeah, 389 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: but when it costs you three hundred and ninety thousand 390 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: and half a million, five hundred yeah, yeah a million. Listen. 391 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: I don't got any brother, I don't got that type 392 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: of energy. Yeah we hey, hold me back. Were good, 393 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: We're good. But I've been saying this. I said, it's different. 394 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: Now I say, you know, it ain't just seeing the 395 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: guy at the McDonald's All American Game or you see 396 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: the guy show up at one All Star game. 397 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: These guys literally grew. 398 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: Up playing against each other for seven years from the 399 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 2: time they was like ten or eleven, and then they 400 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: played one year of college ball against each other, and 401 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: then they come to the Nvaight yep, And now you 402 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: want me to dislike this guy that out of shot 403 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: down his mom? Know my mom, my mom, know his mom, 404 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: my dad, know his dad. We done ate at the 405 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: same he ate in the same cafeteria. And so now 406 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: you want me to because he played for the Celtics, 407 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: I played for the Lakers. 408 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: You want me to dislike him? 409 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 8: Yeah? 410 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 6: That was the rivalry days is over unless it's something 411 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 6: that personally happened off the court that nobody knows about. 412 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: Other than that. You'll have like like somebody like Patrick Beverley. 413 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 6: Right, he's a rarity, which means this, he loves the 414 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 6: game so much that his respect level is. I'm gonna 415 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 6: push you for your greatness and I want you to 416 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 6: push my defense to his greatness. Right, I'm gonna challenge 417 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 6: you every every step of the way. 418 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: And when it's over with, you gave me. 419 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 6: Forty Let's shake hands. I'm gonna watch film. I'm gonna 420 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 6: see your next game, right right, those those are the 421 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 6: guys we have now. The the old raw rob punched 422 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: you and clothesline you for no reason. The NBA them 423 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 6: finds them finds cost too much. 424 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: Now for that, even if I don't like you, I'm. 425 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 6: Not gonna express that on the basketball court. 426 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: It costs too much. 427 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: Right, And you remember this, You remember when a Cam 428 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: Benson punch Kareem and then Kareem turned around and stocked 429 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: me and broke his hand. 430 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: He mister first witty games. 431 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 9: Yep. 432 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: Can you can you imagine somebody just act me doing that, 433 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: just punching, just turn around and punching somebody in the face. 434 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 8: Me. 435 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 6: Listen, one that's gonna be fifty something. 436 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: Games, right, that's one. Two. 437 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 6: You're remember the kid in Timberwolves that punched got so 438 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 6: angry he punched the. 439 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: Wall, broke his head. Yeah yeah, it looked dumb, like 440 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 3: like as a team, as teammates. 441 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 6: No, what's your problem? Yeah, well you've been from missing 442 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 6: game like, what's your problem? Though, we don't games? 443 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: You remember what you remember when Kerment Washington where you 444 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: don't remember Kerment Washington hit Rudy Rudy t oh oh 445 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: he no, he ain't never playing no more. Now you 446 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: hear somebody like do you hear somebody like that you 447 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: ain't never playing? 448 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: You don not today? Like it's listen, everyone likes the idea. 449 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 6: Like I love when like the older player said, you know, 450 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 6: we will do this, we would do that. 451 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't. 452 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 6: Them check fines will stop you from doing it when 453 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 6: you up and you get that slip and it says 454 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 6: minus four hundred thousand youna like, oh man, I can't 455 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: tell the white people about this. 456 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that stops all behavior right there, them checks. 457 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: Well, see, it's it's a little different than football, Gill, 458 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: because we don't really have you know, hit a whole 459 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: lot of traveling football teams so like the Raiders and 460 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens and the Steelers. Yeah, you're trying to maname 461 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: somebody the Raiders in the Bronco. Yeah, because we had 462 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: rich see like basketball, because y'all played so many games. 463 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: We had Raid we had in Denver, we had Raider Week. 464 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: But it's Raider Week. 465 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: Everybody wouldn't get Black Forces what but nah, ain't no 466 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: Black Forces guild. But Al used to have a saying 467 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: said the quarterback must go down, and he must go 468 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: down hard. The Raiders must go down and they must 469 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: go down hard. Oh, we send in the mess they said. 470 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: They try to send a message. Were trying to send 471 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: a message. It starts with the kickoff. 472 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: Oh all I'm saying is hey, look here, we're gonna 473 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: angle the ball turning back this way because I'm trying 474 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: to put my helmet in his ear hole. Now, I 475 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: ain't trying to knock him out for the whole year, gial, 476 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: but I'm trying to get his ass out of that game. 477 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: Y'all had too much a and y'all hearts for the Raiders. 478 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: You know what, We've always felt. We've always felt some 479 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 3: type of way about the Raiders. But Mike told us 480 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: the story. 481 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: Mike used to be the head coach of the Raiders 482 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: all fired him after twenty games. You know, if you're 483 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: on a contract, you get fired, you get your money. Yeah, 484 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 2: Al wouldn't pay it. So Al said, sue me. It's 485 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: gonna cost you more money through lawyer fees than I 486 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: actually owe you. 487 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: So Mike told. 488 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: Us the story, All owe me money. You know he 489 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: won't pay me. So now we taking it personal. Were talking, okay, 490 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: all like owe us money. 491 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 6: So now we got to take it out of your 492 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 6: players ass. 493 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: Somebody go, somebody go pay up. Yo, you're gonna y'all 494 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: saw like bloods and cribs. U y'all don't even know why. 495 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: Y'all y'all don't even know why. Y'all befit? Hey, hell 496 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: once like it's a team. 497 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 8: Uh huh. 498 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: You do something like I said, if you do something? 499 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: He man, Hey, man, such is such dirty? 500 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: What do you do? 501 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: Man that do? Don't worry about We get it. Yeah, Yeah, 502 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: we're gonna get you or I'm gonna get you. You 503 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 2: do something to me. If I can't get you, I'm 504 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: gonna man shy'all with the hell without the bout hey 505 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: you got you got did some dirty early in the game. 506 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get somebody back. You never gonna tell a 507 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: man I chief that he hen do nothing. I bet 508 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: you didn't tell that. Wait, you don't get your ha back. 509 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: Get traded during the middle of the season, do y'all? 510 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 5: Not? 511 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: Really, I don't have to worry, see y'all. See that's 512 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: the thing. 513 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 6: So because y'all don't get traded, nor do if you don't. 514 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 6: If let's say you, you don't get traded to the Raiders, 515 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 6: and if you're a free agent and you don't like 516 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 6: the Raiders, you won't sign as a free agent anyway. 517 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: I would guess what when I was a freeedgent in Baltimore, 518 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: I got released from Baltimore, so I was a free agent. 519 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: I actually visited the Raiders. M h. I just couldn't 520 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: do it. Yes, yes, I just couldn't do it. 521 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 6: So you guys can have real enemies and not worry 522 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: about it. We can be beefing today and I can 523 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 6: get traded at you tomorrow. 524 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: It's got to be really. 525 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: Have a real beef because we don't know where we're 526 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 6: going to be at next year. 527 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, we was in we were the old ESPN zone. 528 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: In Atlanta. Man, it was me Ray. 529 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: It was like me Ray and somebody else and it 530 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: was like four or five Steelers in there. We walked 531 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: right by the mofos. Ain't say a word, you don't change. 532 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: We don't like y'all on the field. Off the field, 533 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: it didn't matter. 534 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: Here. What it is always some straight gang members and 535 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: with it different. 536 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: M h nah, it's Gil. You don't understand Gil. The 537 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: thing about football will make football so unique is that 538 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: it's literally in. It's in, It's in its purest form. 539 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: It's about breaking a man's will. It's about intimidation. It's 540 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: about moving a man against his will. Do you know 541 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: what that's like, Gil? To move a man? A man says, 542 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: I got my hand in the dirt and I ain't 543 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: going nowhere. And I say, the hell you say, you're 544 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: getting up out of this plot of land? Do you 545 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: understand what it takes for a man, a man that's 546 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: a grown ass man. And he says, I'm standing on business. 547 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: Well you fina stand on business five yards behind the line. 548 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna stand on. But you're finn, move 549 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: off this plot of land. You finna get your ass 550 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: up out of here. Now you're gonna keep coming. 551 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: I see that. I think they call that show cops. 552 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: Right then you should pull somebody over and get out 553 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 3: of the car. I ain't getting out of the car. And 554 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: then you know, and they see, you know, he out 555 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: that car, he hit up out of them. He took 556 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: the ass for when they get out of that car. 557 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: But he out. 558 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Because football is the only thing I can do. Whatever 559 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: I can. I can physically assault you and know nothing happened. 560 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: Mmm. That sounds about the same show I'll be watching. Yeah, literally, 561 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: now they done cleaned it up a lot. Well, you know, 562 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: you can't you know, take the like the cheap shots 563 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: and all that other stuff. 564 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 6: But oh man, if we get animal, yeah, that's a 565 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 6: different animal. I ain't even gonna, like I said, like 566 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 6: a lot of that stuff. 567 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: How they be talking and stuff like you couldn't talk 568 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: like like these guys, like y'all be talking like Gill, 569 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: Like y'all be talking. 570 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: About old boy girl that he he done blew up. 571 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: You gotta fight somebody, Gill, you do that. I ain't 572 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: gonna like Gill. She might be a certain type of way, 573 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: but once she getting with a dude on the team, 574 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: let it leave. 575 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: It alone, gill leave it alone. 576 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: It a it got Hey, I'm telling you, that's a 577 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: different God's gods in football. They got a different mindset. Man, 578 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: you got to have a different mindset to play that game. 579 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: You're right. I enjoy it, y'all, being in the club 580 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: with your shirts off, in the club. We used to 581 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: we used to, we used to give, we used to. 582 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: But that was that was the thing, because like, I 583 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: gotta come to work every day. Ain't no, ain't no 584 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: a rookie. Nah, ain't no punk going, ain't no punky 585 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: going on. Look, I understood my responsibility as a rookie. 586 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: I gotta bring food to the plane. I gotta, you know, 587 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: I gotta do you know they want to doughnuts and 588 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: and and hot breakfast sandwiches on Friday. Okay, fine, as 589 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: long as it wasn't the meaning, I got it. 590 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: I got you. You ain't cutting my hair. 591 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: I ain't taking your car to get it washed, because 592 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: I ain't take I take my own car to get 593 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: it washed. But as far as bringing I had to 594 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: bring Popeyes, I had to bring KMC. I had to 595 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: bring donuts. I had to I had to do all that. 596 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: But but yeah, see, yeah, yeah, we get Yeah, they 597 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: gonna kick the ball, and like the fifth row or 598 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: the up in the bleachers, we gotta go get that 599 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: before the bus sting. And then you know, I got 600 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: tired up. I got a hog tied up. Let's just say, uh, 601 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: Washington Wizards. Wasn't the first time I had to bring 602 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: guns to the locker room. My roof DoD don't be 603 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I come back. I had to do that 604 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: a couple of times. You know, you ain't want to 605 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: just knuckle up. Huh, you ain't want to just knuckle up. 606 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: Look at me. I weighed one hundred and ninety pounds, 607 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: came to the NBA. So sorry, they ain't got nothing 608 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: to do with. 609 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 5: M. 610 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 611 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 8: I ain't. 612 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: I ain't get the NBA way. I ain't. I wasn't 613 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: eating waist yet. 614 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: I look, I only got look, I only got like 615 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: mad man, I said, man, Animals get mad, humans get upset. 616 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: I only got upset twice. 617 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: And I remember it was my rookie year and I 618 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: was in the tight end room. I had just moved 619 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: to the tight end room. And uh, every day I 620 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: come in there, you know, clans k would take me. 621 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: I would set my books up and clans would knock 622 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: it on the floor, and I was like, man, so 623 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: you know, I you know, I say, hey, man, I 624 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: ain't come here. I ain't come here for all that. 625 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: I just remember telling myself, I'm going home, driving home, 626 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: I say, Lord, my granted didn't send me here for this. 627 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: I said, but if he knocked my things on the 628 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: on the floor tomorrow, it's gonna be a problem. I remember, 629 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm driving home and I've said it. I said, Lord. 630 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: I went home and I prayed. I said, please don't 631 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: let this man. 632 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 8: Yil. 633 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: He knocked it on the floor, and I think it 634 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: caught him off guard because he wasn't expecting anything. I 635 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: put my hands on his throat. I said, if you 636 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: ever do that, if you ever do that again, you 637 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: will have to whip me, or I'm gonna have to 638 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: whip you. 639 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: I had no more. 640 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: I ain't have no more problems with him. He was 641 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: ten years and they he was I was like two. 642 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: I was twenty two. C k probably like thirty. But 643 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: he knew I was real because my eyes had them 644 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: turned as red as this cup. Oh yeah, and everybody 645 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: talking about man man shop, I ain't never seen you 646 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: like that. 647 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't. 648 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: I don't bother nobody. I ain't never did that to 649 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: a rookie. But and then me and Reggie River Man, 650 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: it was cold, Gill, it was cold that day, and 651 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: you know we I was like, man, look at Rechie, 652 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't feel like playing to day. Let that go, bro. 653 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: So I had the ball, Gill, it was real cold. 654 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: So we had walked through. Man, the dude came and 655 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: knocked the ball out of my hand. The ball hit 656 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: me in my face, I said. 657 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 6: And so I just turned around and said, Brad, I said, 658 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 6: didn't I tell you I didn't feel like playing? 659 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: And did he walk? And I turned around and went 660 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: back to the huddle. Is it fake or he hit you? 661 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: I hit him? Mhm. I turned to walk back to 662 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: the huddle. That was it. Mine was more scared at 663 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: tactics are. 664 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: Gil if I if I see, if I got to 665 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: put my hand. Look, I don't like to get I 666 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: don't like to get like that because I already know 667 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 2: how it is. Because he ain't gonna and they're gonna 668 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: even so one of us, one of us is gonna 669 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: have to go. 670 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: We can't stay on him. We can't be teammates cause 671 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fight every day till I win. That sounds 672 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 3: about right, or you can just say you are. It's 673 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: gonna hell no, you ain't having to have no braath. 674 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fight. We're gonna fight every day till I win. 675 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: That's why I just Hey, that's why I came to 676 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 3: work every day with a spot. They're like, damn, yop, 677 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 3: how you happy every day? Hey? 678 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: Bro, I got the best job in the world. I'm 679 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: out of Glenville. My grandma ain't got to work. I 680 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: ain't got to worry about nothing. My mom ain't. Ain't 681 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: nobody got to worry about nothing, Bro, what's to be 682 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 2: bad about? I don't play though, I don't. I don't 683 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: play like that though. And that's what I tell people 684 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: all the time. Everybody don't play like you play. I don't. 685 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: I have a lady tell me. One time a girl 686 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: tell me. She says, sharena, what a joke to you 687 00:37:52,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: is death to someone else. I never forgot that, mhm. 688 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: But it's do we have to We got a different 689 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: mindset that you guys do. Give all that key, all 690 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: that key key going on the locker room now. I 691 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: don't know how it is not Gil. I've been retired 692 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 2: twenty years. I've been retired twenty years. But guys don't 693 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 2: play by the women. 694 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: Now. 695 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, she she might have been. She might have been, 696 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 2: she might have been a certain type of way. But 697 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: when somebody of them blew up now with you by 698 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: wealth stake, she got a ten carricter down on the hand. 699 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 3: Don't play with that man about that. Oh no, we're 700 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: gonna be in that mother laughing on cashit you could laugh. 701 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: We better be laughing up under your breath. Depending on 702 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 3: who she is. At least four of us and already 703 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: hit it. So we're gonna be kicky here. O. Lord, 704 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, check this out. Gil Jaylen Brown liked 705 00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: the wild tweets. 706 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: Somebody said if Jaylen Brown was number one on the team, 707 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: he would average thirty. 708 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: And be m v P cap He liked. He liked 709 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 3: the tweet, right, he liked it, and it's still there. Well, 710 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure. 711 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 6: I mean, if someone said, you know, I'm the number 712 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 6: one spokesperson in the world, I'm gonna. 713 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 10: Like it too. Okay, I get it. Not realistic, but. 714 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I get it, But look it probably maybe maybe 715 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: he didn't mean to No that's come on, it's a compliment. 716 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 6: I mean they're just basically saying, you know, if he 717 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 6: was the number one option that you know, he'll he'll be. 718 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: M v P shit. I mean, if if he could 719 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: feel that way, you want a team they won't have. 720 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 6: I mean, they could say that could be said, so 721 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 6: I wouldn't take that as no distri but I just 722 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 6: think that was a. 723 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 2: Compliment, and he's just liking a compliment. Okay, so we left, well, okay, 724 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: we ain't gonna make too much out of here. Doc 725 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: Rivers believed that Blake Griffin DeAndre Jordan's CP three should 726 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: have the jersey retired with the Clippers. You agree with Doc, 727 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: Blake Griffin CP three and DJ DeAndre Jordans. 728 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 6: I mean, they at this moment in time, they are 729 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 6: considered the best Clippers ever because the organization itself was 730 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 6: basically a forearm team. You know, they never really kept 731 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 6: anybody past three years. So you know, Blake Griffin when 732 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 6: he got about ten thousand points there, so I mean 733 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 6: that's not that's not Rafters numbers, but for the Clippers, 734 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 6: I would think. 735 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 7: So DeAndre Jordan two, he got a Defensive Player of 736 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 7: the Year three time, All NBA, one time All Star, 737 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 7: which is weird, right, one time All Star, but he 738 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 7: was top fifteen, wouldn't I wouldn't for the legacy of 739 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 7: the Clippers, I would say, Okay, I wouldn't be mad 740 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 7: at it. 741 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't it wouldn't be one of those jersey. I'm like, well, 742 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: how he he his jersey retired the legacy there. 743 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: So you know, you gotta fill somebody, so she might 744 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: as well. So obviously that the Clipper that had a 745 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: whole lot of great players, probably the greatest player probably 746 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: would be Bob McAdoo because the Clippers, the Buffalo Braves 747 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: became the Clippers. They actually they were in San Diego first, 748 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: That's how they got the name Clippers, and then they 749 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 2: moved to LA. 750 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: So who would you say is the greatest Clipper? 751 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 8: I would probably say Blake Griffin at this point, Blaker 752 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 8: between him or CP three, you know, but. 753 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 3: They both about what five time All Stars, five time 754 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: All NBA, and and I think most of all of 755 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: CP three's defensive player awards came there. So between them two, 756 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 3: flip a con can be. 757 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 8: Mad at it. 758 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 3: Shaq or Rudy Gobert. I never thought he was a 759 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 3: great defensive player. 760 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 2: Shaq has never hesitated to criticized Rudy Gobert, and this week, 761 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: Shaq claimed that he feels Gobert, three time Defensive Player 762 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: of the Year and current runaway favorite to win his 763 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: fourth is overrated defender. 764 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: I never thought he was a great defender either. 765 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: See what it is, There's not a lot of centers 766 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: that are making him play defense, like he's not doing 767 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: that issue against yoke Nicolea Jokic because he has to engage. 768 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: But when he's going against another guy he's seven six. 769 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: Of course, if you lay it up, he's going to 770 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 2: block it. Any truth to what Shaq's saying about Gobert, 771 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 2: for sure facts. 772 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 6: I had to ask someone who votes, how do they 773 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 6: rate defense, and that's what they said. They said, steals, blocks, 774 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 6: defensive rebounding, team defense efficiency, opponent field goal position. 775 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 3: With player as whoever the player is a close to 776 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 3: them plus minus when they're on and off the floor. 777 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 6: Now, what the hell does any of that mean? Because 778 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 6: of this, Rudy Gobert is a five man now him 779 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 6: guarding five men. Let's look at these stats, Jokis, He's 780 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 6: only played Yokics one time this year, Jokis had twenty 781 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 6: five and ten. Of course he played Winby all four 782 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 6: times because he's a rookie. Twenty nine and nine, twelve 783 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 6: and ten, seventeen and thirteen, twenty three and ten is 784 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 6: what Winby gave him. He played in mbat one time, 785 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 6: NB gave him fifty one and ten. He's played AD 786 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 6: two times, thirty one and eight, thirty three. 787 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 3: And seventeen, and then last game he was a no show. 788 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 6: The guys who can score are busting his ass, which 789 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 6: means he's not a great on defender. 790 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: Meaning when his guy has the ball. 791 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 6: And he's in the scoring position, giving him work to 792 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 6: stop him. Now, what happens on screening rolls and they 793 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 6: switch and he. 794 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 3: Switched off of his man. Right, Let's say there's a switch, 795 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 3: and then Jokish get the ball and scores on the guard. 796 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 6: That doesn't count towards Rudy okay, Right, So there's a 797 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 6: bunch of you. You're getting credit for things that has 798 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 6: nothing to do with you personally. Right, you're getting defensive stops, 799 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 6: but you're not stopping the guy who's scoring on you. Right, 800 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 6: We side blocks and this and that and whoever the 801 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 6: closest is to the guy who misses it. It just 802 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 6: makes no sense. And I can see why Shaq is 803 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 6: saying this. And I always understood that. Like people say, 804 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 6: you didn't play great defense, I was great. So I 805 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 6: helped great, great help side defensive guy. I took charges. 806 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 6: I was great on the ball down screens and ship. 807 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 6: Yeah you got me on that. But I wasn't very good. 808 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be hit like that. But stop, 809 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 3: my man wasn't taking me off the dribble and stuff 810 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 3: like that. 811 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 6: So it's weird how they are rating these guys. Steel's 812 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 6: blocks defensive, rebounding, but he can't stop it his individual 813 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 6: man one on one. But he's leading in the category 814 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 6: of defense. 815 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 3: You have, you have and man as a defensive player 816 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 3: who literally stops this guy right right, he's a lockdown defender. 817 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: We know he's a lockdown defender, but. 818 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 6: How are you how do you get credit as a 819 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 6: defender and him who gets credit. 820 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 3: For this this stop right? You know? So the stats, 821 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 3: the stats doesn't show that he's a great defensive player 822 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 3: like Ben Wallace, right right, Yes, Allis wasn't very good 823 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 3: guard and his men when his man was backing them 824 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: down trying to score undersize he was a light light. 825 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 9: Waist down, but he was great health side defender right right, 826 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 9: he was a great health side defender, block shots weak side, 827 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 9: And like, how does rebound and counts defense? 828 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 3: It's that that's not a fucking factor, man, Shack, Shack. 829 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody with no great defending on you your big hands, man, 830 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 2: you gave everyone you remember the Kim Bate was defensive 831 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: Player of the years. 832 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 3: Shaq gave thirty seventy seventeen. But I think good. 833 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: But first of all, Bill Russell, whoever was a defensive 834 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 2: player that you DM, David Robinson, it didn't matter. First 835 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 2: of all, ain't no great defensive player gonna stop a 836 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: great offensive player. Be it the glove, be it Alvin Robertson, 837 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: all them great defensive guard. They couldn't do anything with Jordan. 838 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: They couldn't do anything with them scoring guys. David Robinson 839 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: the year he won MVP, Elijah. 840 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: A cook it. I'll tell you I cooked it. Go 841 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 3: look it up. 842 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 6: You know you're right. So that's what I'm saying. So 843 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 6: for you getting your defensive rating off of right, Let's 844 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 6: say I if Jokish want to be a great. 845 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: Defensive player and he plays against Rudy every day. Obviously, 846 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 3: Rudy King score. Right. 847 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 6: If Rudy King score, Jokis becomes the best defensive player 848 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,959 Speaker 6: of the year because he's guarding a dude who don't 849 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 6: shoot the ball. 850 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 3: Right. 851 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 6: So with all these switches and switching going on, and 852 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 6: we get to switch everything, how do you tell who's. 853 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 3: Actually counting for defense? Defensive rebound? 854 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 6: A guy who averaging fit fourteen rebounds and he's leading 855 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 6: in he's leading in defensive rating. That's fucking rebound. That's 856 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 6: a rebound that has nothing to do with stopping somebody. 857 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 6: I was third in steals, right, they credit. 858 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 3: Me for no defense. 859 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 6: Hey, I's on the defensive team, Larry Hughes's first team defense. 860 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 3: Gilbert didn't get no defensive points, right. I was third 861 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 3: in steels, right? No, Why God damn it. That's all 862 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 3: I wanted was to steal. 863 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out how how Tim duncan 864 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: be All defense fifteen times they don't win the Defensive 865 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: Player of the Year. 866 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 3: That's what I said. It's it's you can't be. 867 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 2: You can't be a fifteen time All defensive player, not 868 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 2: one time when Defensive Player of the Year but that's 869 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 870 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 6: It's like, what but but you when you read that, 871 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 6: when you read what they're saying, steels, block, defensive rebounds, right, 872 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 6: team defense efficiency. So now it's team defense. So that 873 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 6: means you need more than one fucking player on the team. Say, 874 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 6: help you guard somebody? Right, then you got opponent field 875 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 6: goal percentage with player as. 876 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 3: The closest defender. 877 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 878 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 3: So if I listen, listen, look this hottest looks. Let's say, uh, 879 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: you get beat defensively, right, Yes, your man blow by 880 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 3: you and you missed the layup. I'm the nearest dude 881 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 3: near the play right, you will get credit for me. 882 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 3: I don't even have to be looking. 883 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 6: I get the rating for it because I'm the closest 884 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 6: to that misshot. 885 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 3: Wow, So should I just. 886 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 6: Want to guard like I want to guard Ben Simmons 887 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 6: then and say, Ben, just keep shooting. I'm just saying, 888 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 6: right next to your brother, I'm become the best defensive 889 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 6: player of the year. 890 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,959 Speaker 2: With defensive player to you yourself there. Steph Kurr says 891 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,919 Speaker 2: he's considering a career in politics after retiring from the NBA. 892 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: During the Parents on CBS Morning to promote his new 893 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: children's book, and I Am Extraordinary. Steph gave insight into 894 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 2: his plans after ending his current career May Steff saying 895 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: would ask if he would ever expect to see him 896 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 2: make a run for the over office. I have an 897 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 2: interest in leveraging every part of my influence for good 898 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: in the any and and the and the way that 899 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: I can. So if that's the way that I can 900 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 2: do it that I'm not saying presidency, but politics, maybe 901 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at it. 902 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 3: I mean, I ain't mad at him either. You know, still, dude, 903 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 3: he's a he's he's a good dude. He has a 904 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 3: good heart. So you know, uh, you know, if he 905 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 3: is in politics, he's gonna he's gonna try to do 906 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: right by the people. 907 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,959 Speaker 2: Gil there's a difference between sports journalists and I guess 908 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: the investigatives and news journalists. All I'm saying is, make 909 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 2: sure your house is in order. Now, If if, if 910 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: the only thing that's gonna come up is that you 911 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: didn't want them to build a low income housing next 912 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: to your residency, You're gonna be fine. They're gonna find 913 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 2: out everything, h as Fanny willis. All you gotta do 914 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 2: is go down there, and look at the DA that's 915 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. They brought these charges against President Trump. 916 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 3: Uh huh. Nobody knew anything about what was going on 917 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 3: down there until she did that. So all I'm saying is, hey, 918 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 3: I believe in Steap. I believe he's a model citizen. 919 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 3: But that's just what we see. They gonna go hunting, 920 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 3: they gonna go fishing, and that's the politician is a 921 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,479 Speaker 3: dirty game. Man. The hell yeah, they trying to listen, 922 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: they trying to discredit you with your past. 923 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 2: But and hey, against us, it's gonna work. Yeah, against them, 924 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 2: they get to keep it down. Only matter, It don't 925 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 2: matter what, It don't matter about that because I know 926 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: a situation they made President Obama. 927 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 6: Dis viow Reverend Wright mm hmm. Couldn't go to the 928 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 6: church no more, couldn't be couldn't be a mentor couldn't 929 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 6: be anything. Now we see what's going on now mm hm. David, dude, 930 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 6: it don't even matter. So understand, our transgressions are like shackles. 931 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 6: Their transgressions are like cobwebs. You brush cobwebs aside, you 932 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 6: brush them off, you shackles. You're held more accountable, ruthful. 933 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 6: I wish that I wish them the best to look 934 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 6: get my vote. 935 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 3: You're gonna get my vote, but we already gonna know 936 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 3: you're gonna be on the golf course with his pops. Uh. 937 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 2: It's time for our last topic of the day. Gil 938 00:52:54,520 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 2: is called Q and a double oh splash. Uncle gil 939 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 2: My son loves to show. This is his favorite night 940 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 2: to watch. He's twelve years old and ask if you 941 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 2: guys would shout him out. He's an Honor roll student 942 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 2: and he's going for all aids. All right, Hey, bro, 943 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: thanks for watching. I appreciate hope of your dad covet 944 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: years when we talk about the real, real, real stuff 945 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 2: that a twelve year old's not supposed to hear. But 946 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: congratulations bro, making an Honor roll get all these aids. 947 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,720 Speaker 2: And thanks for tuning in and watching Nightcap with Sheddon 948 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 2: and Gil. 949 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 3: Kimper Norwood Junior. I don't know how his son is 950 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 3: up at night at eleven thirty being on the honor road. 951 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 3: Tell him to take his little ass to sleep. He's 952 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 3: your favorite. So this is the late one. He might 953 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 3: be home school, okay, because another one, you know, y'all 954 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 3: come on about seven thirty. Kimper Norwood Jr. Ask Gil, 955 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 3: do you believe that Luca can help the Maths get 956 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 3: another title? Listen, it ain't about Luca. Luca's one piece, 957 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 3: and it's do you do you think the organization, the 958 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 3: new organization is going to put pieces around him to 959 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,720 Speaker 3: help him win. Right when Dirt first got there, Cuban 960 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 3: put a bunch of pieces. When you look at some 961 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 3: of them lineups and rosters that they were trying to 962 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 3: build over there early in Dirt's career, they were trying, right, 963 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 3: That's all that. 964 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 6: Matters as long as the organization is really trying to 965 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 6: put pieces around them. So you know, once once Luca 966 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 6: hits about twenty this is about twenty five right now. Yeah, 967 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 6: within the next two years, we can really see if 968 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 6: they're trying to make moves to get a championship. 969 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 2: We got here, Jose the hayesus So, Gil, you guys 970 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 2: taking your lead your squad, Brian Russ or rookie d 971 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: Rose Rolls was what the athleticism, This is what I 972 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 2: think you can feel come and say this. Russ and 973 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 2: d Rose are the two most athletic point guards that 974 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: we've ever seen. Now Josh is coming into that mix too, 975 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 2: Jo Joh, but man, d Rose had bounced. 976 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 3: They had that they like they they had the speed 977 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 3: and that explosion. I'm always go with the bigger one, right, 978 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 3: I'm always going with the six four sixty five guy 979 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 3: who can get out. So I'm gonna go with Russ 980 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 3: just because his the tangibles, right, everything he brings, the energy, 981 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 3: he brings, like, I love me some d Rose. 982 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean you know what I mean. The way he 983 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 2: played d Road was special man. Yeah, it wasn't even 984 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: prime d Roll. 985 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 3: It was just young d row z Row. Yeah, he 986 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 3: didn't get a chance to get to prime because he 987 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 3: was injured. Yeah, it was. It was yet So I 988 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 3: got to see where Russ. So I'm gonna take the 989 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 3: triple double Russ over, you know, the the m v 990 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 3: P d Ros and knowing that we don't know what 991 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 3: d Rose would have looked like a healthy twenty five, 992 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty. 993 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 11: Seven, where you're gonna put Joh in that mix? Jah 994 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 11: right now is I'll have him third, Right, he's third. 995 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 996 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 3: He hasn't had that that that d Rose MVP year, right, 997 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 3: he hasn't. He hasn't got to that level. But the 998 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 3: things he has done, it's hard to say. He's not 999 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 3: right there, He's he's knocking on the door. He's knocking 1000 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 3: to the door right now. I never saw d Rose play, 1001 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 3: didn't see Russ play in his prime. But to watch Jah. 1002 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 2: If those guys were any more athletic than Jah, good 1003 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 2: god abody. Yeah, because this dude here, the way he 1004 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 2: can contort his body. Now d Rose could do that. 1005 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 3: Now, d rot Russ. That's not Russ. Russ just explosive 1006 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 3: straight ahead. 1007 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: But d Rose would the up and under the dipsy dude, man, 1008 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: joh man, he's like he's just suspended it there. 1009 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1010 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 8: When he. 1011 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 3: We really we really sit, they. 1012 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 6: Gonna think it's photo shot about ten to fifteen years 1013 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 6: when he went to block that shot and all this 1014 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 6: was on the backboard, yeah, or when he brought Torrian Prince, 1015 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 6: when he brought with like with the Lakers, with we 1016 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 6: playing the Lakers, when he. 1017 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 3: Blocked that, yeah, yeah, that that when they blow that 1018 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 3: up and if that ain't on his wall, he needs 1019 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 3: to go ahead and get that on this wall. That 1020 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 3: that that that that that is a beautiful time capsule 1021 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 3: shot right there. 1022 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,959 Speaker 2: Greg King said, Gil, would you ever coach an NBA 1023 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 2: team if the opportunity presents itself. 1024 00:57:54,200 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 3: How do you motivate watch to go to work up 1025 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 3: the coach a team if I have full control of 1026 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 3: who I can draft, who I put on my on 1027 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 3: my bench and all that, and my motivational speech will 1028 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 3: sound the same every goddamn day. Who in here want 1029 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 3: to be a max player when they raised out, Well, goddamn, 1030 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 3: let's train like one. Okay, the max players train like 1031 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 3: max players. 1032 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 6: Don't tell me you want to be a max player, 1033 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 6: but you training like a six man, right. I want 1034 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 6: you to train like Kobe Bryant, like Steph Curry. I 1035 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 6: want you to train like that. And if you do, 1036 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 6: that's as a coach, that's one. I want to see 1037 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 6: how many max players I can push out. 1038 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 3: So when you when they hit the free agency, I'm 1039 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 3: the guy. You're coming from max players, right, you know, 1040 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: because you're not gonna tell me you want to be 1041 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 3: a max player, but you at the club every night, right, 1042 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 3: don't don't beat Do not be working out three times 1043 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 3: a day. You're grunning the beach. You're eating your salad 1044 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 3: in the summer. 1045 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 6: To come to training camp and get ready for the season, 1046 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 6: and then come to the season, work out one time 1047 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 6: and be at the strip club all day because you're 1048 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 6: away from your your wife. 1049 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 3: Don't don't, don't give me the worst of you. See, 1050 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 3: that's what the NBA is. 1051 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 6: See, they at home with the family in the summer, 1052 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 6: so they can't do all of this ship they're trying 1053 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 6: to do. Then come to the to the season, and 1054 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 6: that's when they want to consume. 1055 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 3: The most alcohol. 1056 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 6: They want to stay up the ladies, they want to 1057 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 6: party because they're on the road. Now, we're gonna flip 1058 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 6: this around. We're not gonna You're not gonna do. 1059 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 3: That on this watch. This is the job now, right 1060 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 3: you know, So that those are the talks I'm gonna have, Like, 1061 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 3: do you really want to be one of the greats? 1062 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 6: If you just come in here, get in the church, 1063 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 6: because I'm gonna treat you just like that. 1064 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 3: If you want to be a Kobe Bryan type, we're 1065 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 3: gonna train like that. I'm gonna hold you to that standard. 1066 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 9: Right. 1067 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 3: If you just want to come get a check it out, 1068 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna treat you like that too. I'm not gonna 1069 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 3: expect nothing from you. Right you come in, Hey, if 1070 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 3: you hit your first two shots and keep you in. 1071 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 3: If not, Hey, going on down there where the rest 1072 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 3: of you drunk motherfuckers be have fun. I ain't gonna 1073 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: be finey and you come in late, I'm not gonna 1074 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 3: find you. I'm not even gonna do nothing. Hey, you 1075 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 3: chose your path. You're gonna get paid accordingly. But the 1076 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 3: guys who's trying to put that work in, they trying 1077 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 3: to get the max deals. 1078 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna help them. Don't complain about the role. Don't 1079 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 2: complain about the results you didn't get because the work 1080 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 2: you didn't put in. And that's what man row. Come 1081 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 2: on now, Yeah, Kember, know what Junior said. Oh, my 1082 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 2: goal in life is to have a one on one 1083 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 2: conversation with you. What do you think that conversation would be? 1084 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 5: Like? 1085 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 2: You are my role model. I love watch Than every 1086 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday on First Take. It all depends on 1087 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: what you're trying to, what you're trying to do, what 1088 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 2: you're trying to become in life. 1089 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 3: I can just. 1090 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 2: I have a general good idea when I start to 1091 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 2: talk to someone how serious they are about what they 1092 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 2: want to become, because it becomes a very apparent because 1093 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 2: when people say, well, chef man, I want to get 1094 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 2: in chair I want to train, but I got to 1095 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 2: eat my fried chip Man. You know, I got to 1096 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: have my man a shop man come up bad. You know, 1097 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 2: I gotta get my burgers. I gotta get my pizza. 1098 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 3: I gotta do it. Okay, next question, I'm not gonna. 1099 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 3: I don't come. 1100 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 2: I don't when my time because you're telling me all 1101 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: the things that you don't want to get up, give up, 1102 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 2: but you're telling me you want to be great. 1103 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 6: There are no shortcust of greatness. There are only sacrifices 1104 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 6: to be That's it. 1105 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 2: And so by telling me what you what you don't 1106 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 2: want to do, I need you to come in and says, Okay, 1107 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: what do I need to do to be able to 1108 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 2: accomplish X, Y and Z. 1109 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to sacrifice. I think that's I think that's 1110 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 3: usually everyone's achilles heel. They don't want to sacrifice for 1111 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 3: what they want. 1112 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 6: That becomes like you, you really have to understand that 1113 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 6: to get to get to another place, you got to 1114 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 6: do different things. 1115 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 3: Yes, to get what you never have, you've got to 1116 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 3: do what you've never done. I mean, I just do. 1117 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 2: I just don't get people that think that it's like 1118 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 2: this this stuff is easy, like people just roll out 1119 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 2: of bed and become great. 1120 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 3: No, there's a price because we make it seem easy. Yes, 1121 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 3: that's a problem. 1122 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 6: We make it seem easy because they can't see everything 1123 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 6: we're doing. They just see the results, and the results 1124 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 6: look easy. But see, that's what discipline is. It requires 1125 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 6: you to do your best when no one is watching. 1126 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 6: See if all you see, all you see is what 1127 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 6: I do on the field, but you didn't see what 1128 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 6: I did. Why when you couldn't see? But I couldn't 1129 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 6: fool the man. 1130 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 3: In the mirror. 1131 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 2: I know how many times I was on that track. 1132 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 2: I know how much weight I lifted, I know how 1133 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I ate, So I couldn't get mad if things didn't 1134 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 2: go my way because I didn't do the necessary work 1135 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 2: that it was required to get to what I had done. 1136 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: So there's only one way to do it. You got 1137 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 2: to do what others can't or won't, and sometimes you 1138 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 2: got to do both. It's simple, alto Lainty Ray saying, 1139 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 2: since it's eleven thirty pms, essentil it's sadistic and I'll 1140 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 2: be asleep by the time you read this. 1141 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm pre ask you my questions. 1142 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 2: Would you consider would you consider to be a failure 1143 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 2: you experienced and what did you learn from it? No, 1144 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 2: I just considered delayed success. I didn't do what I 1145 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: needed to do in high school. But the best thing 1146 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 2: that happened was because I bulgized in high school. 1147 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 3: And I went to Savannah State. I met a lifelong friend. 1148 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 2: I met instructors and professors and doctors that sincerely and 1149 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 2: genuinely carried about Shannon Sharp and probably two of my 1150 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 2: favorite I mean I had a bunch, I mean probably 1151 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 2: four or five was Haynes Walton and Norman Elmore. And 1152 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 2: I just remember them always telling me, Sains, you're going 1153 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 2: to be our best representative of Savannah State. H And 1154 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 2: I want you to understand that, but I want you 1155 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 2: to wear it like a badge of honor. And I 1156 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 2: never forgot that. And I remember when I went to 1157 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 2: the league and I came back, doctor doctor Walton hugged 1158 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 2: me and told me how proud he was. Doctor Norman Elmore. 1159 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 2: I loved going to that man's class man Gil. I 1160 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 2: remember one morning it was it was cold, it was 1161 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 2: really really cold. 1162 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 3: Now it was raining. It was just it was two instances. 1163 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 2: One it was raining, and you know, you get a professor, 1164 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 2: you give it, you know, you give him ten minutes 1165 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 2: and he come and he always had these stacks of 1166 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 2: books stacked up this hinde and they sliding all over 1167 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 2: the place. 1168 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 3: And I just remember you saying, he said, you know what, 1169 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 3: I almost didn't come. It was like four or five 1170 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 3: of a stage. 1171 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 2: Everybody else was gone, he said, you know what, I 1172 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 2: almost didn't come today, he said, but I thought somebody 1173 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 2: would want to learn something. Mm hmm, man, I would 1174 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 2: hate man. I loved going to that man's class. I 1175 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 2: loved going to doctor Walton's class. I had a professor, 1176 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 2: that Gay Hewett. She was amazing. Doctor Macklamore. Doctor Maclamore 1177 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 2: and doctor Green were my remedial reading and English teachers. 1178 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 2: Because when I got to Savannah State, I was in 1179 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 2: developmental studies. I don't know if anybody knows, but those 1180 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 2: were they call them developmental studies, but it was reading 1181 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 2: because I didn't meet the academic requirements. 1182 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 3: We know what those mean. 1183 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in there, all of them. I had English, reading, 1184 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,959 Speaker 2: in math and graduated college in four years and two months. 1185 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 2: Had I not been in those classes out of graduated 1186 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 2: with no summer school, but I wasn't ashamed a lot 1187 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 2: of my teammates were ashamed to go in there because 1188 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 2: they were trailers and everybody knew what those classes were. Man, 1189 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 2: I go in there, have ay, have my stars, jeans on, 1190 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 2: my eyes on our clue. Old Friday had me a briefcase, 1191 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: had a jacket on, because I was like, I'm gonna 1192 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 2: be something. 1193 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 3: Y'all can't make y'all came. Y'all can't make me. 1194 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 2: I take sole responsibility for my failures for putting myself 1195 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 2: in a situation, so y'all can't make me feel bad. 1196 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 3: I know I ain't done. 1197 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 8: Man. 1198 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 3: I walked right up in that thing. Hey, Gil, I 1199 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 3: had me a breef iron. 1200 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 2: I had my shirt iron night before, on Thursday night, Iron, 1201 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 2: my shirt had a collar shirt on. Give me a jacket, 1202 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 2: get my creech half slacks, go right up in there 1203 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 2: with a briefcase because I know I was gonna be something. 1204 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, I ain't going to class on training. 1205 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to class. 1206 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 6: I'm going, Gill, you know why I'm going to class 1207 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 6: where you think them bangs were. 1208 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 3: They weren't in their dorm. They ain't class. Yeah, see listen, 1209 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 3: I was trying. I stayed to the gym. I say, 1210 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 3: in the gym. I went to one class my freshman year. 1211 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 3: I went to one as the first day to see 1212 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 3: what was in there, and then I had and then 1213 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 3: I had my second year same thing. One class. 1214 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 8: That was it. 1215 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 3: Outside in the front of the class. I'm still legal 1216 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 3: a freshman. 1217 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 2: God, Gil you you father from graduating? Then when you 1218 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 2: went to school? Oh no, no, fact, no, yeah, I 1219 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 2: wasn't listening. I went there for basketball. 1220 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 3: That's it. The program I seen them on they on TV, 1221 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 3: and this it is. I used the television to get drafted. 1222 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,560 Speaker 3: People like, yeah, you're gonna go back to get your degree. 1223 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 5: For what I got? 1224 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Ships I need? 1225 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need. Noh, somebody saying you have you 1226 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 2: had a briefcase not a book band. Now I had 1227 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 2: a briefcase of one handed books and the other. 1228 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 3: I was like, I was dealing it. 1229 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 9: Uh. 1230 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Four kt as is the altitude playing in Denver as 1231 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 2: bad as people? Yeah, you gotta get used to it. 1232 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 2: There's a reason why people train the altitude they go to. 1233 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 2: Why do you think the uh, the Olympic training facility 1234 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: is in Colorado Springs. 1235 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 3: They wouldn't put it there if they were if it 1236 01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 3: didn't benefit you. 1237 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Most people trained in altitude, they go to flag Staff, 1238 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 2: they go to a Colorado springs. I had the ten 1239 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 2: I had to tend in my house Hyperbary Schamer. Yes, 1240 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 2: absolutely so in absolutely and absolutely. But Big Mike said, 1241 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 2: what's up a girl questionnaire? Which record you think would 1242 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 2: be broken? 1243 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: First? 1244 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 2: A Curry three point record? He said, Lebron's forty thousand 1245 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 2: point a Curry three point record. 1246 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 3: Do you understand how many? How how low? Forty thousand? 1247 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 3: That record stood for almost forty years? 1248 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 6: Forty Curry's three point d the Curry's three point record 1249 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:49,600 Speaker 6: because they shoot more of them, they're shooting more and 1250 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 6: he started off slow. 1251 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 3: Yes, Ingle injury. So there's there's a get there's there's 1252 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 3: space to get that that that that record, because there 1253 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 3: are a lot of that are ahead of the pace. Yeah. 1254 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 2: For for what current was boxers go to Big Bear 1255 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 2: up here in northern California. So yeah, every since basically 1256 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 2: since Mexico City in sixty eight, the Olympics, I mean, 1257 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 2: the thing aunt the thing they are up there. A 1258 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 2: lot of records fail. The Kenyon they trained in the 1259 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 2: Riff Valley. There's a reason, that's why they went all 1260 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 2: the damn time. 1261 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 8: Yep. 1262 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 3: It helped to have them labs up to do with it. 1263 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 2: John mary Nella said, give, if you could compare your 1264 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 2: game to anyone curly in the league, who would it 1265 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 2: be and why? 1266 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 6: Uh? It was early James Harden mixed with Dan Right, 1267 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,799 Speaker 6: I was very good at I mean, like shifting guys 1268 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 6: and understanding human behavior, so getting to the free throw line, getting. 1269 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 3: But I was more. 1270 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 6: I was more all around than James us right. I 1271 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 6: posted up. You know, I had one on one mid 1272 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 6: post shot without dribbling. I knew how to flare, I 1273 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,839 Speaker 6: knew how to cut, play very well without the ball. 1274 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 8: And with Dame. 1275 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 6: I possessed knowing how to slow the game down while 1276 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 6: I was moving fast, so you know, hitting shots at 1277 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 6: the end of the game, that's that's that's mental training, 1278 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 6: where being clutched clutch is more of understanding why everything 1279 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 6: is going fast. 1280 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,560 Speaker 3: You can slow it all day down, and that's what 1281 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 3: I was very good at. But for the most part 1282 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 3: I was. I was a mixed between the two, but 1283 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 3: they over exceeded where I was. 1284 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 8: I mean, but it was. 1285 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 2: Aaron Owen says, I remember when a fan asked Clay 1286 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Johnson the autograph for Toaster. What's the weirdest item of 1287 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 2: fan requested to be signed up and gil. 1288 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 3: Uh a baby's diaper while the baby still had it on. 1289 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 3: Damn yeah hand. In hindsight, it was a new die. 1290 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,799 Speaker 3: It was you know, boom. 1291 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 6: And then I realized that, yeah, he gonna Yeah, You're 1292 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 6: gonna use the restroom at some point, and I'm pretty 1293 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 6: sure you're not gonna keep that. 1294 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. Uh man, you know what 1295 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 2: people be talking about. Take off a shoe. Try to 1296 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 2: take off a shoe and give me decided that, Like, 1297 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 2: for real, you really think i'mbout to side your. 1298 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 3: Shoe take it off? 1299 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1300 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 7: I don't. 1301 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 3: I don't. 1302 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable signing to sign my arm or 1303 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 2: something like that. Come on, man, get a piece of 1304 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 2: paper or something. 1305 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 3: Little kids, because that's a little come on, that's a 1306 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 3: little kid thing. 1307 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 9: Man. 1308 01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 3: I'm never gonna watch his arm again. I'm trying to think, 1309 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 3: what's the weirdest thing I've. 1310 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 2: I think it's weird when people want you to I'm 1311 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 2: a football player, want you to sign a baseball Who 1312 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 2: the hell do I look like Barry Bars? I mean, 1313 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 2: would you want Baron Bards to side of football. That's 1314 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 2: all they have at the time. Sometimes that's all they happen. 1315 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 3: They just want the autogram because they probably never gonna 1316 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 3: see again. 1317 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 2: You're probably right, Yill, You're probably right. Well, that's our 1318 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 2: time for tonight. 1319 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,759 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. 1320 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm your favorite, Uh Shannon Shark, he's your favorite. Number 1321 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 3: zero Arizona Wildcat legend. Yeah, y'all don't know about these 1322 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 3: right here, they'll do you uh and no, have mercy, 1323 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 3: Andre Agassiz, and you didn't get a mask. You didn't 1324 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 3: get a don't be mad. They sure do, Sure do. 1325 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 3: I'm mad. I got one to rock and one to stop. 1326 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 3: But that's not to hear ninety seven is right? Huh? 1327 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 3: No here last ninety seven? No byo. 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