1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: This is the almost famous podcast post holiday season. Well, 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: I guess we still have New Year's left. This is 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: the final few days of twenty twenty three. So today, Ashley, 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: I really want to dive in to start this thing off. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: We're going to break down some headlines and talk about 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: what's going on in Bachelor Nation, including now the official 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: commercial that is, you know, highlighting Teresa and Gary's upcoming wedding. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: That's going to be very exciting for everybody and very 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: excited to tune in. 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: But before we. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Get there, Ashley, it is the final week of twenty 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: twenty three, and one of my favorite things that I 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: get to do every year with everybody in my life 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: is kind of ask what in twenty three, twenty twenty 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: three you're most surprised by and most grateful for. I 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: would love for you to answer those two questions for me. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: Okay, first, let me say that I don't I actually 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: do not. I get anxiety going into a new year 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: because I have been extremely blessed to have some great years. Sure, 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: and every time we go into a new year, I'm like, well, 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: it can't be better it can only be worse. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, so far, I don't think that 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: theory of yours has been proven true. 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: Right, you're right, Yeah, you're right. So I don't know 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: why I look at it in a scary light. Let's 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: see what surprised me the most about twenty twenty three. 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: I guess, just like I mean, what's been the most 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: fun is watching Dawson develop. But it's weird because it happens, 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: you know, each day, and you know how this is 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: a bad embarrassment, but whatever. You know how when people 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: gain weight over time, you don't notice necessarily if you 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: live with them, but then people who don't notice it. Yeah, 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 4: that's like how it is having a kid, because like now, 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 4: I don't even remember what he was like a year 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: ago at this time, because I just feel like he 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: must have been exactly the way she is now. But 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 4: what's been really cool is just watching him form a 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: personality that's the best. 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: And he's got a big personality. I was able to 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: be with him like last week, and he is. You 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: can start to see who Dawson is gonna be and 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: who he's becoming, and it's yeah, it's really fascinating and 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: really fun. Because he has both you and Jared's personalities 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: mixed in all of the same time. 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: I think that's probably the most surprising thing, is just 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: to see your kid have interests and traits of your own. 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: I think a year ago, from a year ago now, 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: my mom was kept saying things like, you know, we 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: have to get beyond his looks. It's not just he's 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: so cute, you know, eventually we have to like he's 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: got to get his personality and his intelligence and all that. 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: And like what's really formed over the past year is 55 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: that because now besides him being the cutest baby in 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: the law and the land, he also just has he's 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: just incredible. So I guess does that answer your question? 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: How about you, Ben, what surprised you most about twenty 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 4: twenty three. 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's there's really two aspects. I 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: would say my development in picturing our family growing has 62 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: been like surprising to me. 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: I think it makes sense. 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: You know, I've been very like honest with Jess, especially 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: in the family. I've never woken up and being like, hey, 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: I think I could be a dad today, Like it 67 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: freaks me out, scares me. 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: But I think just. 69 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: The year of it isn't as much maybe now as 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: more the anticipation or the curiosity or the hey, we 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: can make this happen. I also think for me in 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three was a big year for contentment. And 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't mean like I practiced contentment. I didn't and 74 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: maybe I should have. But you know, life has changed 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: for me in twenty twenty three. They're you know, really 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: post COVID. I went into COVID hosting three different shows 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: and doing television and doing live stages and doing this, 78 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: and then none of that has came back except for this. 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: This has stayed true, tried and true for me. And 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: so it's been a big refocus since COVID on what 81 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: does my career look like. 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: Moving forward? 83 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: And it was a kind of a hard divorce from 84 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: what you know, the exciting and the you know, the 85 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: the the attention and you know those things. Yeah, the 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: craziness of that to now, you know, I sit in 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: my office most days and I work on coffee and 88 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: restaurants in this and so but I I think in 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two I was probably a little bit envious 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: or a little bit upset at the life I had before. 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, I've really started to enjoy this 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: and really started to get excited about those things and 93 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: what they bring. And so yeah, I think for me, 94 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: it's a new perspective on what life is going to 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 2: look like, hopefully for the next you know, many years, 96 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: as many years as you've. 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: Got it, tesk giving me. 98 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: That's so good. But can I revisit something, you know 99 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: how you're talking about becoming comfortable with the idea of 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: being a dad. I'll say this. I used to get 101 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: annoyed when I was pregnant with Dawson and people would 102 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: be like, are you so excited? And I'm like, that's 103 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: honestly not like the emotion that I have just like 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: jutting out of me right now. It's it's definitely like 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: fear of the unknown. I'm definitely more anxious than anything. 106 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: It's like, of course I'm looking forward to it, but like, 107 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: before you have a kid, you don't even know how 108 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 4: the love feels. So I think that your feelings are 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: totally normal. It's okay, like you can want it because 110 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: you're like, I know that I want a family, but 111 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: like that first year, I think it's the thought of 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: it is scarier. Well, it's scarier the thought of it 113 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: than it is living it. 114 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't even know, And I think it's just. 115 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 4: The most normal feeling. I think that excite is something 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: that like society throws around. Sure, it's just it's just 117 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: not the right word. 118 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you've done this long enough, you know, due 119 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: to my Enneagram personality type or whatever you want to say, 120 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: like authenticity, even good or bad, Like even in my 121 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: marriage is all I ask for with my family, with 122 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: my friends, is like if Jessica's pissed off at me, 123 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: I want her to tell me like I don't want 124 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: her to be I'm fine if she's feeling down or out, 125 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: or if my family's feeling down around I just wanted 126 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: to tell me like there's I don't want that shame. 127 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: And I just don't want to live in a place 128 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: where I feel like everybody is sugarcoating everything. And so 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: it took me a long time, like it was a 130 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: personal struggle for a bit where I was like, I 131 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever felt like excited, like I don't. 132 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: I don't even know what i'd be excited for. I 133 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: don't know what I want, Like I know the idea 134 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: of a kid sounds great and it sounds intriguing. It's 135 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: always been something that like has felt like a path 136 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: for me and something that I've prepared to do. And 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: I've always thought about, Hey, the decisions I make at 138 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: a younger age maybe will affect my kids one day. 139 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 2: And so I want to try to be a good husband. 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: I want to be a good friend, a good son, 141 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: all those things. But I don't know what I'm act like. 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know when you say, hey, I want 143 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: a family, Like, what what does that want? 144 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: Like? 145 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: I just want more people in my house, Like I 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: want less sleep. No, I don't want any Like. I 147 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: don't want those things. But what I do want is 148 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: the love and the community and the ability to share, 149 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: you know, the things that my parents would passed down 150 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: and grandparents and family and friends to me to pass 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: down to some you know, to somebody smaller. 152 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, you know, the fear of it. 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't think that like, oh my gosh, if Jessica 154 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: told me tomorrow, hey, I'm pregnant, like I want to 155 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: be like life falling apart, Oh my goodness, freak out. 156 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: I'd be like, Okay, let's let's do this thing. 157 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, Okay, so it's happening, So. 158 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: Like, what do we doing now? 159 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: We want this on a macro level. 160 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know what it means. We're gonna 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: figure this out as we go. Okay, So what are 162 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: you most grateful for? 163 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: Then? 164 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: And let's you know, I know it's easy to say 165 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: Dawson here and those things, but let's take Dawson out 166 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: of it. What what things in life are you personally 167 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: most grateful for outside of maybe Dawson. 168 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: Well, I mean obviously Jared, and I think it's just 169 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: a continuation of just the fact that, like knock on wood, 170 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: but it's like my family is happy, healthy and safe. 171 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: We're all so close and like we just and like 172 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: it's just it's been like that for quite some time, 173 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: and I'm just like incredibly grateful for every single day 174 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: that it stays like that. And then you know, just 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: the whole this whole career that has been yeah, gifted 176 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: to me by an appearance on The Bachelor franchise almost 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: a decade ago, and how I'm still able to like 178 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: sustain myself my family with it. 179 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we get to talk about a show that 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: both met you know, so much to us. Yeah, weekly 181 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: and actually feel like it matters because a lot of 182 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: people listen. A lot of people listen. Those are great things. 183 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: I think it is, uh, you know, my for me 184 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: and during this time of life. This year, my devotional 185 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: I read a devotional. 186 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 187 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: It's by the Center of Action and Contemplation. It's a 188 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: Christian based contemplative school in New Mexico's founded by Richard Rohrer, 189 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: who's a Franciscan. So it's really fun for me because 190 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: it's not the you know, I don't attend to Franciscan Church. 191 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't practice you know, the Franciscan Siscan Church. So 192 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: it you know, it is a it would be more 193 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: I guess if you're looking at like the balance here, 194 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: it'd be more of like a Catholic type church than 195 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: it would maybe be an evangelical, nominational kind of you know, 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: more church that we've seen in the last twenty years. 197 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: And so it's just more like contemplative really leans back 198 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: in the history. And so this year one of the 199 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: things that they did as Richard ror got older and 200 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: they started to make a switch, was they started to 201 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: teach in the devotionals about like small moment gratefulness, and 202 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: so I have been very attuned or I guess like 203 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: very aware of the things that like I look at 204 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: in the course of my day and find pleasure in, 205 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: or find satisfaction, or find gratefulness beauty in. And so 206 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: it could be small moments wrestling with my dog too. 207 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: Even yesterday, there was a pine cone laying like a 208 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: small little pine cone laying on the ground. I picked 209 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: it up, and I was looking at all the intricacies 210 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: of this pine cone and just saying, this is a 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: really cool piece of the earth that I get to 212 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: live in it. I get to enjoy this little piece 213 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: like it's that thing. So for me, it's been finding 214 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: gratefulness and smaller things, which I think also parallels with 215 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: why maybe I'm feeling more content, because it's not just 216 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: gratefulness that oh my gosh, I just got a crazy 217 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: offer to post for this brand that I love and 218 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to make so much money, which maybe four 219 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: years ago would have been something that I would have said. 220 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: It's the gratefulness for the small little moments in my life, 221 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: the things that maybe other people don't wouldn't celebrate. I 222 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: couldn't call somebody be like I just saw the coolest 223 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: pine cone today. 224 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: I'm pleaded. Do Yeah, that's so cool. No, I'm glad. 225 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 226 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's kind of my path. 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just on a place where something 228 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: inside of me is preparing myself for really exciting, a 229 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: really fun journey ahead that will involve maybe less glitz 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: and glamour and attention as the previous almost ten years. 231 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: And that's exciting for me. I think it's preparing me 232 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: to enter into a cool stage of life. 233 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: Oh, Ben, that's so awesome. I'm really glad to hear that. 234 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: So at the end of this podcast, we are going 235 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: to update everybody on kind of what we did in 236 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: the holidays. It's gonna be very quick, it's gonna be 237 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: very short. We're going to talk about what we did 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: in the holidays, things that stood out to us. I 239 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: have a special thing I want to talk about that 240 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: my brother in law did that's going to blow everybody's mind. 241 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: I mean it blew our mind. 242 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: I felt so fancy talking about being content. Yeah, this 243 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: celebration at the holidays. He made sure all of us 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: were not feeling content as much as very fancy. 245 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: And so we're gonna talk about that. 246 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna get an update from Ashley, but before we 247 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: do all that, we do have headlines to jump into. 248 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: A Bachelor Nation was active during the last couple of weeks, 249 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: and so let's start with this one. Tanner and Olivia 250 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: from Bachelor in Paradise dating speculation. We just had Tanner on. 251 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: He didn't say anything about this. 252 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: He said that he loved her. He's definitely made it 253 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: seem like Olivia is one of his favorite people on 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: the beach, but didn't make it seem like there was 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: anything romantic about it. And this could be our friend 256 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 4: Zachary reality just kind of creating a little rumor here. 257 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: He took a picture and posted it as a TikTok 258 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: of the two of them. It was just two pictures 259 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: of the two of them melded together. Basically, it just 260 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: seems snugly but at the same and it is. It's 261 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: one of those like weird borderline things, like it could 262 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: definitely be friendship and it could definitely be like them together, but. 263 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: Like we'd be happy about it, right sure. 264 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: And there's one where Tanner's picking up Olivia and like 265 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: carrying her like a baby. It's just it just it's 266 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: not happening. It's my thought. 267 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: I here's here's my only comment personally on this. They're 268 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: both very attractive people. They both obviously are very single. 269 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't fully like I didn't have a traditional dating 270 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: life really because I went on the show so young 271 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: and kind of came off of it and was more 272 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: like secretive and protective about the dates and the people 273 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: I was going, you know, interested in or pursuing. But 274 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: I would just imagine that if I'm an attractive person 275 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: and the other person is attractive and I'm single and 276 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: we're friends, like, yeah, I would just think that like 277 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: something would be sparked. They're like, I don't know that 278 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: many people in my life at thirty four years old 279 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: that have like guys at least that have like really 280 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: tight just girlfriends. 281 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: I well, okay, so I really. 282 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: Maybe vachelination is different or maybe I'm ready tell me 283 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, or if you don't. 284 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: I used to make Jaredy pictures like this with me 285 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: when we were very complicated, obviously. 286 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: But you guys also were in love. You're proving my point. 287 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: You end up you ended. 288 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: Up like having a child, And then Susie and Justin 289 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: are doing the same thing, and I definitely think there's 290 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: feelings on one side there. Yes, we did a grilling 291 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: podcast with them. Guys, if you do it yet, definitely 292 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: go back. I I try to get every answer I can. 293 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: It's like a whole twenty minutes about their relationship and 294 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: they're so amazingly honest about it. They even say that 295 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: if one of them were to get a significant other, 296 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: they couldn't have the relationship that they have today. So 297 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: you know, maybe you're right, and maybe maybe I did 298 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: disprove your point. 299 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you did well. Okay, And zachar Reality 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: does take his job very seriously, and. 301 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, he's not just gonna maybe throw anything up 302 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: there without some sort of rumor that he's here in 303 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: the background. 304 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: And he's up for Zach Reality a special shout out 305 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: to our friend is up for an award, a social 306 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: media award this year in Los Angeles for top social 307 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: media I think it's a journalist or host of the Year. 308 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: It's a big deal and so congratulations to him. That's exciting. 309 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: Hope he wins. We like him. 310 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: Next headline is this somebody that. 311 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: We believed was going to go farther on The Bachelor 312 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: than they did Marlena Wesh she was the Olympian a 313 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: few years back. 314 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 4: Well on Clayton season. 315 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, on Clayton season. And she just announced an engagement 316 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: and her quote is a million times. 317 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: Yes, she went public with her boyfriend. His name is 318 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: get this Italian name and I think he's from Italy. 319 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: Well they met on Bumble in Florida, so maybe he's 320 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: got Italian roots. Listen to the name Tomaso Matali. So nice, 321 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: what a nice, nice name. So she is in They 322 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: hard launched in May and now they posted an engagement video. 323 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: Cute little shot next to a Christmas tree, a picture 324 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 4: of with other loved ones in Italy. I think that's 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: where the engagement went down. And of course we have 326 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: Bachelor Nation wishing them all the congratulations. 327 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: It's a big deal. 328 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: Congratulations of both of them, Bachelor and Paradise is Kylie 329 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: Russell been in the headlines a lot recently. Sends message 330 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: to supporters after Avon Jones split. 331 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: She said on December twentieth on her Instagram story, feeling 332 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: extra thankful this past week, having spent it with my family. 333 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: I want to thank each of you for your kind words, 334 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: the overwhelming love and thoughtfulness means the world to me, 335 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: and of course we know what Kylie is going through. 336 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: Avan has admitted to basically infidelity since in between the 337 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: filming of Paradise and the announcement of them being together, 338 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: which only lasted twenty four hours in December. 339 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: It's you know in the headlines this week. 340 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: There's also been some opinions stated about if she should 341 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: have publicly came out and said the things she did 342 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: about Avan or not. 343 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: Really were you even seeing this? 344 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 345 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: I just prefering for this googling Kylie Russell. There are 346 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: some thoughts on that. I personally feel like this was 347 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: a very messy situation and she probably felt like she 348 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: had to so that questions weren't going to be continued 349 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: to be asked if they were together or not, or 350 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: why they broke up. 351 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: So I think it's fine if a guy cheats on 352 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: you and you guys had a public relationship on TV. 353 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: I think you're allowed to say it. 354 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say, hey, this was not good. This 355 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: did not work out like I thought it would. You know, 356 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: we had Jess on oh two weeks ago. She was 357 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: talking about I think she had mentioned that Kylie was 358 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: one of those considering moving to San Diego. 359 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 4: Right, Well, wasn't she living She was living in San 360 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: Diego with Aidan. 361 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so she'll stay and then these girls will kind 362 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: of go and build up more of a bachelor following 363 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: in San Diego. 364 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: Is that what's happening? 365 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: I guess so? 366 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: Okay? 367 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of San Diego, Hannah Godwin reveals why she's 368 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: been mia and details her emotional struggle with insomnia. 369 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: Hannah and Dylan live outside San Diego, and she has 370 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: been saying recently, like, oh my gosh, this is awful. 371 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: She has been a little bit quiet on her socials. 372 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: She just said that, like she's just exhausted and just 373 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: emotionally spent because she has been going through this insomnia 374 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: about which is awful. Sixteen minute vlog entry that she 375 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: posted on her YouTube, she said, I've been really, really, 376 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: really struggling with insomnia. I used to not want to 377 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: call it that because I would just say that I 378 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 4: had sleep issues sometimes, but lately it's been full blown insomnia. 379 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: I went to bed at like this five point thirty 380 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 4: or six thirty this morning, and now it's eleven am. 381 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 4: So I slept for maybe three or four hours, which 382 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 4: is more than I've been getting, she says. In the 383 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: past three weeks, I think I've had two nights of rest. 384 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: I like, can't freaking fall asleep, and it's so frustrating 385 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: and it holds me back, and I'm crying and I'm 386 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: just tired, and I think that it just holds me 387 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 4: back from everything. She says. She's tried everything, magnesium, melotonin, 388 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: hot bath at night, cold bath at night, no screen time, insomnia, exercises, 389 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: looking directly in the sun in the morning, you first, 390 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: arcadian walk, regulating not taking naps during the day, no keffeine, 391 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: no alcohol edibles, breath work, yoga, exercising every day, and 392 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 4: other things. You name it, I've tried it, she said. 393 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: But I just lay down in bed. And for example, 394 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: the other day, I went to bed at seven am 395 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 4: and I woke up at nine am, and I've just 396 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: been running on two hours of sleep. It's really frustrating. 397 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: It's not good for you. Went to my primary care doctor. 398 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: I prescribed some sleeping medication, which she doesn't like to take, 399 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: she said, because it's, you know, habit forming. She's also 400 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: gone to a natural pathoic doctor. A lot there's a 401 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 4: lot here, obviously, but I can't. I know, I can't imagine. 402 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: That's just awful, awful, Ben, Do you know any anything 403 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: about insomnia, because I'm just wondering, like, if she's going 404 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: to bed at five thirty seven am. I've been thinking that. 405 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: I'd be thinking that if she can, especially during these 406 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: like slow months of December, sleeping and really late. But 407 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: it's it also like hinder your amount of sleep. 408 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, what was it? 409 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: It was three months ago I went a whole month 410 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: without sleeping. What well, I was sleeping like two hours 411 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: a night. And mine was based around like just weird anxiety, 412 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: internal anxiety. It was right after my truck had gotten stolen. 413 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: We had already committed to getting new windows in our house, 414 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: painting our house. We had just gotten back from an 415 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: Italy that was an amazing trip but a big, you know, 416 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: a big undertaking for Jess and I. So like it 417 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: was a lot of like financial stress, which seems to 418 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: be where I get my stress on just like how 419 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: are we going to make this thing work? And so 420 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: this like stress kind of like came out in other ways. 421 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: I don't know a lot scientifically about it. What I 422 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: did was I it's weird for me, like there's only 423 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: there's one thing in the world, and you know this 424 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: that relaxes me the most is rbon No. I stopped 425 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: drinking because I thought that was like causing it. 426 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 3: It was. 427 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: It's like getting massage, like deep massage and getting different 428 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: massage techniques like actually like sleep focused massages, and I 429 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: would at least get tired or relaxed, and I would 430 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: try to do it. There's a place here in Denver 431 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: I could do it, or like kind of right before 432 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: I'd go home and get like chilled out for the day. 433 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird. I don't tell me an expensive habit. 434 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well think about what she just mentioned, all the 435 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: things she's trying. 436 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: How did you like, so you get a massage like 437 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: how many times a week? 438 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: No, I don't do anymore. I started to get back 439 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: and got back into rhythm. And honestly, for me, it 440 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: was therapy too. It's speaking about like sharing openly, like 441 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 2: speaking through my concerns and just like getting them out 442 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: there into the world and also getting better at sharing 443 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: them with Jessica so that she's on the same page. 444 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: Like there was a moment I was like, I don't 445 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: want to tell her that we need to do this 446 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: and this and this because I don't want to freak 447 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: her out. And then when I did, it was like, okay, 448 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: we can We're a team, we can do this thing together. 449 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: But I don't know like the science behind it necessarily 450 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: it has to mean it's really it's very hard, and 451 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: you start to go, you know, you start to feel 452 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: crazy because you can't keep your thoughts together. Everything's making 453 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: your irritable anxious. Your body doesn't look good, you know, 454 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: you just because you're not working out because you're so tired. 455 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: It's weird. 456 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: Well, I hope that Hannah figures something out soon, and 457 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: she says she's so thankful for everybody who is sending 458 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: her messages in just support, solidarity and those giving advice 459 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: as well. 460 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. 461 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: I would be cautious about the ambient though, because that 462 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: is well, yeah, it is habit for me. And then 463 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: you start taking that thing and getting on a flight. 464 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: People do weird stuff, you all those crazy stories, right, 465 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: all those viral the weird stuff on fights. All right, 466 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: totally transitioning here and no good way to do it. 467 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 2: But Katie Thurston discusses worst day of her life breakups 468 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: New Bachelor Nation Connections and more. 469 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: So all this is very vague. Katie's great at teasing, though. 470 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 4: Katie is great at putting like a little something out 471 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: there to get your attention and then not really fully 472 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: giving you the story. So she said that this past 473 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: month she experienced the worst day of her life, yet 474 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: somehow she managed to experience her twenty twenty three high 475 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: the following month. Life throws things at you, but stay 476 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: strong through it all because some of your best moments 477 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: are yet to come, she said from for my high, 478 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm enjoying it privately for now, and for my low, 479 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you when I'm ready. In the meantime, I'm 480 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 4: in therapy, start taking Lexapro, and I'm focused on finding 481 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: my piece. She also said that she will be talking 482 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: to therapy Jeff on his podcast about her f Boy 483 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: Island breakup. She said that there's not much to share 484 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: there though Reality TV dating offers its own unique obstacles 485 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: and sometimes some things just don't work out. 486 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: That's fair. 487 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: Katie Thurston continues to keep the headlines because she's been 488 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: on our screen again. That's the past episode we just 489 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: did catching. 490 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: Up with her. 491 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: That one is a little more vague of an interview 492 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: because she wouldn't tell us why she was on the 493 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: beach in Paradise. 494 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: But now obviously we. 495 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: Know, well, you know, we have seen the commercial final 496 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: headline of the day for the Teresa and Gary wedding. 497 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: They're anxiously looking forward to this. But Life and Style 498 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: Ashlely is reporting that some of her friends are warning 499 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: her to not go through with it. I'm curious about 500 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: this headline. 501 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: Okay, well it's Life and Style, all right. I saw 502 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 4: this on my Instagram feed and I was like, oh, 503 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Life and Style, Well they are you know, I trust 504 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 4: us weekly, I trust people magazine Life and Style, you know, 505 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: I don't know there's sources as much. But and they 506 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: love to like take something and run with it. Sure, 507 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: just looking at like even like the articles that they've 508 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 4: written about you and I. Sometimes it's like they'll take 509 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 4: a quote and they'll make it sound really salacious. It's 510 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: like in context it's actually nothing. But let's let's go 511 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 4: through this anyway for the sport and for the sake 512 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: of the fact that we basically have a bachelor gossip podcast. 513 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: So in a new report, people that are close to 514 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: Teresa are warning the Golden Bachelor finalists to think twice 515 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: about marry and Gary Turner the Life and Style article. 516 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: The report is based on a source that says that 517 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: Teresa is shocked by some of the last minute revelations 518 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: that were you know, churned up about Gary that last 519 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: week of it airing, you know, the Hollywood Reporter article, 520 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: and friends are now urging her to get a prenuptial 521 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: agreement if she goes ahead with the marriage. Says that 522 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: he was very much rattled by the revelations from the 523 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: former girlfriend who talked to the Hollywood Reporter, and according 524 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: to Life and Style, Teresa was shocked because Gary was 525 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: caught lying and telling and people are telling Teresa now 526 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 4: to think twice. Gary's having to explain himself, and Teresa 527 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: is questioning everything he's ever said. The source told Life 528 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 4: and Style, Teresa's friends are stressing the importance of having 529 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 4: a prenup and you know, I don't know much about 530 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: this me personally. 531 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: Now. 532 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't know much about the financial situation between the 533 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 4: two of them, but it is a little different than 534 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 4: when you're starting your lives out together in your twenties 535 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: and thirties and getting married at that age. You know, 536 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: both of these people have made money for many more 537 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: years than people in their twenties and thirties getting married. 538 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: So I don't think, I don't I know, I know 539 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: nothing about their break accounts and their savings, but I 540 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: don't love if that a prenup is the worst idea, 541 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: especially that they're getting married after five months of knowing 542 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: each other. 543 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: Do you feel like prenups? You know, obviously the marriage 544 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: rates have gone down over the years. Do you feel 545 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: like prenups are going to get more popular or less 546 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: kind of taboo as we move forward. 547 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: Well, let's clarify the marriage rate, like the divorce rate 548 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: is actually not that bad, and I do believe it's 549 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: quite good amongst millennials, which yes, I know we're still 550 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: quite young. But it's if you are over twenty five 551 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: and you get married, your college educated, yours chance of 552 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: your marriage surviving is far beyond the fifty percent that 553 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: people love to throw around. Yeah, far beyond it. 554 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: And a lot of people in our generation have our 555 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: children of divorce. And so I'm assuming kind of like, 556 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, just like every generation, you say, Hey, I 557 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: don't want that, you know, So I'm not either going 558 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: to get married or I'm going to really make sure 559 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: this is the right person for me. 560 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: So you think that the thing that the amount of 561 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: prenups are going up, I. 562 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: Have no idea. 563 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: I was just guessing that it maybe wouldn't be. It 564 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't be you know, you don't hear about it a 565 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: ton right now, but it just wouldn't be a weird 566 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: conversation now for people to be like, yeah, let's get 567 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: a prenup. 568 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: Just you know, I think it's not a weird thing 569 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: if you have your own money, if you're both coming 570 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: from a place of being in your seventies and having 571 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: a massed your own money, especially since we know Teresa 572 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: is really into her job. Her job is in finance. 573 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: Don't know how much he's making, but who knows, uhy 574 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: who knows? The whole topic is obviously one that is touchy, 575 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: and I. 576 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: Just don't think Ashley. 577 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: Here's why I don't think it's as big a deal 578 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: as people are making it, because I know, I mean, 579 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: Teresa is a confident, intelligent woman who's made her personal 580 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: choices here, right, So she's making her personal choices and 581 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: we are seeing the commercial for their wedding. If this 582 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: was as big of an issue as people are making it, 583 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: I believe Teresa and her family would be pulling the 584 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: brakes on this a little bit and we'd see it publicly. 585 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: You think so, yes, But like the wedding was announced 586 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: basically the same week that the Hollywood Reporter article came out, 587 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: So what an awkward time to put breaks on it. 588 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: I feel like awkwardness would be that's okay considering you're 589 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: making a commitment to somebody. I think they're doing fine, 590 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: and I will believe that until we hear differently from 591 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: the two of them or we don't see them go 592 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: through with the wedding. I think they're doing just fine, 593 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: and I think the public is making, you know, statements, 594 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: And this is tough, Ashley. It's really hard because we've 595 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: talked about it many times with couples coming off the show. 596 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: This is one of those behind the scenes things that 597 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: we won't probably see a lot of, but is making 598 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: their relationship harder because it is a question they probably 599 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: get asked every time they do an interview. It is 600 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: probably something that you know, they have to read about, 601 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: see their names pop up, their families are not reading 602 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: about it. It does add some kind of like heaviness 603 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: to what could be a really exciting time, and so 604 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: I hope if it isn't a big deal for them 605 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: and they have communicated it and they are at a 606 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: place of understanding and they're both very excited for the 607 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: idea of marriage and getting married, then we stop perpetuating 608 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: something that isn't really a thing because it just hurts people, 609 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: and we start celebrating the love that is finally, you know, 610 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: coming from the golden Backchy we waived on for so 611 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: many years. 612 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: Well you know what. They were on Kelly and Mark 613 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: this week, and they did do a mock wedding ceremony, 614 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: but they also revealed something they are not necessarily sold 615 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: on moving to Charleston together. Like they announced on after 616 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: the Final Rows, they are possibly considering New Jersey her 617 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: home state, because he actually is really enjoying New Jersey 618 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 4: as New Jersey is the most underrated state. 619 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: Goodness, Gracis, I've never heard anybody say that, but I'm. 620 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: Glad lots of people they'll tell you that Jersey is 621 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: a bad. 622 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: Rap all from New Jersey, Ashley. To close out the show, 623 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: I did want to get your update on kind of 624 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: how your holidays were. It looks like you're back home 625 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: in Newport right now. Anything crazy special that happened. 626 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: Nothing crazy, nothing crazy special, but everything was special. We 627 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: had a really nice couple days, three separate sequential family 628 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: get together which was really nice. His Jared's cousins on 629 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: Christmas Eve and then his sister's on Christmas Morning, and 630 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: it was really fun to see the kids play. So 631 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: my niece is three months older than Dawson and they 632 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: were like opening presents together and dancing to Justin Bieber's Baby, 633 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: which is Dawson's new favorite song, and it's just like 634 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: really really adorable. And then we went to his parents 635 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: for Christmas dinner. It was just and my sister was 636 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: here and that was really nice, and it was so 637 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 4: sad and sweet because today when we dropped her off 638 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: at the airport, Ugh Dawson just like he first saw 639 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: where we were, and he goes on planes all the time, 640 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: and now he's like plane playing, play playing, so he's 641 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 4: either thinking that he thinks that he's going on a 642 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: plane and that normally means that he's gonna go see 643 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: Grandma and Grandpa and Auntie, and then he realized that 644 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 4: Auntie was leaving and he was not getting on a plane, 645 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: and he just started bawling. It was so sad. But 646 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: he's so cute with my sister because it's like everything 647 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: is like Mama, Dada, Auntie Auntie really really cute. And 648 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: then yeah, she's just she's the best aunt. Oh my gosh, 649 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 4: she's the best ant. So so for Christmas, for our 650 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 4: for Jared's side of the family, we basically we are conducting. 651 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 4: We have organized a family trip to Disney World, Jared 652 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 4: and his dad's favorite kind of vacation in the world, 653 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: in mid January. So it's been in the works for 654 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 4: a couple of months, but this was kind of like 655 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: our big like Okay, everybody like, let's start doing it. 656 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: So we're excited. We're gonna be taking a two year 657 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 4: old and an almost two year old to Disney World 658 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 4: along with Jared's like cousins and his aunt and uncles. 659 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 4: It's like a big it's Jared's dream because it's like 660 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: family vacation. It's so he's like he's taking a big 661 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: hay boone family vacation and we're going to Disney World. 662 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: And I'm sure it's gonna be crazy and chaotic, but 663 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: it'll be really fun. And even though they're too he 664 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 4: is so into Aladdin and she's very into Muana and 665 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 4: like they are, they're gonna in their eyes. 666 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, mid January in Orlando, Florida is the 667 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: time for the Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Change. 668 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 4: You're gonna be there. 669 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: I'll be there. 670 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 4: Wait, we're gonna be there on fourteenth, like the nineteenth 671 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: or something like that. 672 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: There, I'll be there that whole week. 673 00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 674 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 2: So if you want to see some amateurs play golf 675 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: alongside some incredible professional athletes, stop on over. It'll be 676 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: a blast. It's always a lot of fun. It's a 677 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: big old party in celebration. But it sounds like you 678 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: guys will have your hands full. But yeah, well that's exciting. 679 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: Well I have to give a shout out actually to 680 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: my brother in law. Now, we did the holidays in Nashville, Tennessee. 681 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: I just got back my parents. My mother in law 682 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: and father in law were gracious enough to invite my 683 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 2: parents to come celebrate Christmas with us. It was Jade, 684 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: my nieces, as I've mentioned, first Christmas, so this was 685 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: a big Christmas for everybody. 686 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 3: It was awesome. We had a really great time. 687 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: It was really special and it is very special to have, 688 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: you know, my family and Jess's family together having so 689 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: much fun together. But I got to give a special 690 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: shout out to my brother in law. So he is 691 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: a chef. He's an incredible chef. He's brilliant. 692 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 4: That is a chef. Yeah, Jim is he professional chef 693 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: as his occupation he. 694 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: Has He's cooked at some of the best restaurants in 695 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: the US. 696 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember hearing all that's okay, yeah. 697 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: But it's not what he does for a career any longer. 698 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: But he still obviously is very skilled and he loves 699 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: to cook for the family. And so his gift to us, Ashley, 700 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: it was to buy caviar and black truffle, and he 701 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: made a caviar egg yolk pizza and a black truffle 702 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: mushroom pizza. Now these things were so fancy, like you 703 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: he's at a restaurant would be hundreds of dollars, and 704 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: he made them and they were incredible because he is incredible. 705 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: And then he had this tin of caviar and he's like, 706 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: I bought this tin of caviar not to save, but 707 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: to enjoy, and so it was amazing. We had the 708 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: bottles of wine and we were sitting around. We were 709 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: literally putting caviar on our pizza crust and eating our 710 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: like caviar with pizza crust and just like and then 711 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 2: potato chips like we He made sure we went all out. 712 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: It was like the fanciest, coolest dinner ever. And he 713 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: did it as our as the gift to say, hey, 714 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: let's just enjoy being together. Indulge, indulge, and not worry 715 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: about the fact that we're you know that this caviard 716 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: is very expensive, and it was awesome and we were 717 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: just so also thankful he crushed it. 718 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: It was it was special. 719 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 4: That's for sweet. What does caviard taste like? It's like, 720 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: does it enhance your potato chip? 721 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, does it enhance. 722 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like a buttery, like very light sea flavor butter. 723 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: It's it's special. 724 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: So it's not super it's not super fishy. 725 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: No no, no, it's not super fishy like you could 726 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 2: you would love it. It's like it's like a very 727 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: good accent to anything. You put caviar on anything, it's 728 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 2: going to be good. But I have never really ever 729 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: eaten like that, And it just happened to be at Christmas. 730 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 2: Based on the cooking of my brother in law. So 731 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: I felt cool, My mom felt cool, my dad felt cool. 732 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: They had never had caviaar before, so we were just 733 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: all feeling cool, being cool together. It was awesome, feel 734 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: good holiday. I'm back now and we're getting ready to 735 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: start the new year. Twenty twenty four will be an 736 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: exciting year for the Almost Famous podcast. We have new 737 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: things coming your way, a couple new segments to look 738 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: forward to where Ashley and I are really interested in 739 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: wanting to engage more with you as listeners, and so 740 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 2: make sure you tune in for the announcement on that. 741 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: We're very excited for that, and I hope you are 742 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 2: as well well. Until then, until next time, I've Been Ben, 743 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: I've Been Ashley. 744 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 4: Bye. 745 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on 746 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.