WEBVTT - "Alien Abductions" w/ Jake Cornell 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.000 Hello. All is Sam with a quick show announcement. First 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.440 of all, I'm doing My Hour again in LA on 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.880 May fourteenth. All the other ones have sold out, so 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.160 I recommend you get tickets asap and then get this. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.440 I'm doing a tour this summer, so pretty much I'm 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.159 touring tour. I'll be doing My Hour in San Francisco, Seattle, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.640 Portland in July, DC, Philly, Chicago in August, and then 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.879 Boston at the beginning of September. And there may be 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.800 a couple other cities and dates sprinkled in there, but 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.920 those are the ones. I have ticket links for it now, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.440 so I'm saying, run, run, run to my bio and 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.080 get tickets for all those beautiful, beautiful cities. I cannot 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.600 wait to see you. Okay, that's pretty much it, so 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:58.720 enjoy the episode. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.080 Bye. Podcast starts now. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.360 What is up everyone around the globe? We're coming at 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.840 you from New York City. George, how the hell are you? 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:07.880 I'm fantastic. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.200 I had an experience today at the barber, which is 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.880 that I it needs some time to grow, so don't 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.160 we can't. It's Today's not the day. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.360 Everyone knows it looks amazing. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.520 I didn't put condition around. Okay, The point is my 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:28.480 barber and I were silently having a work interaction, as in, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.120 he was cutting my hair, which is his job, and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.000 I was being a client. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.200 And then the worst way to phrase it, next. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.680 Next to us, there was a different barber with a 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.920 different client, and they were keeking, like having an amazing 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.480 time and in fact talking about FX's American love story 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.559 excuse me global, And so the client who was gay 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.280 was explaining the concept of love story. And then somebody 0:01:53.320 --> 0:02:00.200 actually goes, I just I'm really into nostalgia. But that's 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:01.200 not the point of the story. The point of the 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.120 story is that it was like being on a date 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.160 and seeing another couple of beeks so in love, but 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.760 we are like have been together, has tires and our 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.360 love has died, and we could both feel it because 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.560 we were both overhearing the only other sounds in this barbershop, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.960 which were the other people, like truly having the Kiki 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.480 of a lifetime and like talking about how they both 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.720 love nostalgia. And then it's at different points we each 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.839 tried to wreck it, like we each tried to start 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.360 a conversation, but it really happened. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.680 Have you seen Devil's product. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.480 Yeah. No, he actually he went with what are you 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.960 up to the rest of the day, and I locked. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:33.359 Oh. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.799 I was like, I have no idea what to say. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.160 That's what am I gonna say? I'm going to Midtown 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.160 to record my gay comedy podcast. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.200 I think you should let him in. I think this 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:42.840 is part of the reason why you're growing distance. You're 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.280 not letting him. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:44.720 I don't know who he's voting for, George. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.600 You have all these walls. You need to break them 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.799 down if you want to have a close relationship with 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:50.440 your barber. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.840 The closest relationship I've ever had with my barber is 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.640 in twenty sixteen when my barber was voting for Trump, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.960 and I would just sort of follow him on if 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.840 he had any critiques of Hillary Clifton I agreed with, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.400 I would just like nod vigorously, and then when he 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:04.920 would get to the ones they didn't agree with, I 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.160 would change the subject. And I think he just like 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.079 allowed us to sort of like feel like I think 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.840 he thought that we were basically agreement about it. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:12.880 Every sure, sure you treat him like. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.040 A family, Yeah, exactly. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.320 Well that's tough. I can't imagine. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.880 That's like because me and my barber are so close. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.600 You know, we have no secrets between us, all. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.520 Right, because he's by no, he's straight. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.919 Even today I was sort of like, ough, he's he's 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.440 gonna be mad at me because I'm not using the 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.000 product he gave me for my hair, and I know 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:32.680 that he wants. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.720 You guys are relationship you're sending nudes in disappearing mode 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:37.280 on Instagram. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.880 He has my pathetic hair in a cage and I 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.600 have to show him the whole good I am at it. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.120 Yeah, so that's not the relationship that I have with 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.520 my barber. Ultimately, well you should switch. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:47.720 I do. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.200 Sometimes I feel bad for the other gay barbers in 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.920 the barber shop because they're like, he's straight, and I'm 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.720 like being like so fun and free with him. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.600 You're being not like other gays. Yeah, we were kind 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.600 of going Petro Pascal mode exactly. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.880 We were literally talking about penals, and you know, then 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.119 the gay barber next door has to like cut a child's. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.880 Are right, and it's like, you can't talk to that 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.720 child about anal sex. That would be real idea that 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:15.080 I would have to call the community. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:16.880 Should we bring our guys. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.440 I think that we must well, we're so thrilled to 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.840 have him back on the podcast, especially in a more 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:22.720 professional setting. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.200 That's right. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.919 I actually have a very vivid memory of when you 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.640 did the podcast. Last time we tried to. We were 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.440 doing clips barely and the clips had no video. There 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.160 were simply audio over a still image. And I think 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.640 that's so quaint and chic. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.719 It's true, And would you believe that those clips don't 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:46.080 do well? Would you believe that no one is jonesing 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.360 to share a static image with sort. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.839 Of sound wave over it and then close captions that 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.599 don't quite match up with what's being said. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.040 But I do remember and three identical gay voices. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:04:59.400 But I do. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.640 Remember this particular clip doing better than you would think 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.440 for it being a static image. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:04.839 Right. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.240 It was the power of what you were saying. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.360 Some things can transcend their. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.040 Medium, and it was mostly about vaccines, if I remember. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:21.279 That's what I remember as well. So, Jake Cornell, what's up? Wow? 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.960 I'm so happy to be back and happy to be 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:23.840 on video this time. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:24.880 Yeah, how does it feel? 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.400 And you're in our new studio which we've tinted green 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:33.240 to match our mates. Do we have a similar colored eyes? 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.200 I have green eyes, So that's up to you and 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:36.960 what your eyes are. See. That's interesting. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.840 I grew up with the belief that I had blue 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.280 I'm kind of like Rachel Dollars all in this way, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.200 like I grew up with the belief that I have 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.440 blue eyes, but I do literally have green eyes, I think, right. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.200 But also it's like everyone who has blue eyes like 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:50.719 we have the ability to turn or everyone who has 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.200 green eyes, we have ability to turn the blue when 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.160 they definitely. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.359 But then you meet someone with true blue eyes and 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:56.279 you're like, oh, I'm a fraud. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.120 Yeah yeah, yeah, Well no, I don't think a fraud 0:05:58.120 --> 0:05:59.599 because I like that I have green eyes. It's like 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.360 sort of a different to me. I feel like green 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.120 eyes is the most like indie GIRLA. I completely agree 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.760 green eyes is very like because it also you get 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.719 to eschew the like Aryan race exact connotations of blue, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.320 and that's sort of like it's like not actually, but 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.119 like if you put them on a spectrum, it feels 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.159 like green is closer to like brown than blue. I 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.680 guess it kind of literally isn't like so it's like 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.800 so it feels like it feels like this really kind 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.840 of niche place to be I completely agree. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.279 There's something very like Mediterranean about it. There's something sort. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.960 Of it's sort of like you have rich parents, but 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.520 they got rich like totally ethically. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.680 Yes, you know, it's not generation it's. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.520 Not generational wealth. But it's also not like it's not 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.839 novo no, no, no, it's something really unique. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:47.720 It's just to be clear, it's not nouveau. No, it's 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:52.040 urban creative. Yeah, your parents are artists that got famous 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.640 in the seventies when you could be. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.920 Having green eyes as the exact level of privilege that 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.200 Lena Dunham had from her parents. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.720 That's basically what's green eyes is. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.800 And the eye color privileged spectrum is like it's like 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.599 Lena having green eyes, that Lena Dunham of green eye. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.920 Yes, and people will accuse you because as people accused 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.880 her of having more privilege than she does exactly. That's 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.440 the risk you run, is that you could be accused 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.920 of having people always. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.160 Say I got tradio, I had green eyes. That's right, Yeah, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.040 I had much the leg work. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:23.920 Yeah, it's ther. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.040 Talked about my last episode of Stradio app Please, I 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.560 went on no less than three dates in the year 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.239 or two following that episode coming out where the person 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.160 revealed to me on the date that they had pursued 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.080 the date after hearing you on Stradia lab. Oh, oh 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.200 interesting that is. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.640 I don't think he was mentally well huh, you know 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.480 few people are. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.200 Yeah, in this city. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.240 That's what keeps it running. The mental illness. 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.040 I have actually like reformed mental illness in my brain, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.000 where I rather than pointing out the different illnesses people have, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.720 I now only comment if someone is normal, and I'm like, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.840 they have this person was diagnosed with normal. Isn't that 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.560 so interesting? How long are they gonna last? 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.920 Well, as you know, I'm I'm often ostracized. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:06.720 Are you normal? 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.160 Yeah? I feel similarly for being totally neurotypical and unmedicated. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.520 I'm like, how it's insane that I think I can 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.280 be an artist. Yeah. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.320 People get so upset. Yeah, and then they're like, and 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.840 you don't even wear contacts, and that's when they start, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:17.880 That's when they get violent. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:19.480 Well. I always say that one of the worst things 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.000 that ever happened to me was that nothing was metically 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.400 wrong with me as a child. No. One of the 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.600 worst thing step one of the hardest days of my 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.160 life when I was told I remember like that, the 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.280 orthodontics looking me dead in the face, the orthononis that 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.360 I forced my mother to take me Joe being like, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.400 you do not need braces, and I was like this, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.640 I can't imagine to not need braces and to not 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.000 need glasses. I mean it was unbelievable. And to have 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.760 a sister that severely needed both. Yeah, I know the 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.199 burden of Oh well that's scary. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.920 Yeah, when the family is disrupted by one not needing 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.920 stuff and one needing a lot of stuff, that can 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:49.559 be really scary. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.520 Do you have survivors guilt from not needing braces or 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.240 glasses but having assisted and needed both? 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.440 No, I have deep I had deep envy and I 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.920 was first. You know, I was old, So I don't 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.280 have survivors skill. I'm more guilt about that blatant privilege 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.560 I received from being older and a boy. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:04.120 Totally. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.679 Oh sure, sure, it's interesting, which then I counteracted by 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:07.880 being gay. Gay? 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.200 Oh is that why you became gay? 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:10.440 No? 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.520 And I actually think in my family it's sort of 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.839 actually got me more points, like I think, really, yeah, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.600 I think because I'm fun. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.480 Right, Well, it does swing back around, of course, of course, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.559 of course, of course, because in high school they're like, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.079 please don't be gay. That's embarrassing for all of us. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.680 But then when you're like thirty something, I'm like, wait, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:27.240 this rocks. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.400 The moment when you realize that you being gay is 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.240 now a plus in the family is actually like kind 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.800 of a thing. I would say that happened to me 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.640 pretty late, like like early thirties, where I realized definitively 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.760 like I'm an asset here. It is no longer something 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.400 people are talking about in hush tones. It's actually something 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.640 my mom's like bragging about as as though she like 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.280 got a new blazer. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.480 To the point where I've also I realized, this is 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.680 something really interesting that happened. I have had to realize 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.920 that I need to not perspect like I need to 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.800 not perceive myself within the family as like as marginalized 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.280 as I think I am, because I think really interesting 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.200 that happened to me, Like during the election was I 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.160 had this. I had these cousins who my sister's really 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.080 close with that I was like, fuck them, like they're 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.680 Republican and their Trump supporters. My sister's out to dinner 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.040 with them, and she was like she called me like 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.719 after dinner. She was like, hey, I have to tell 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.600 you that. During dinner we were talking and they were like, yeah, 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.719 we're actually fully Democrats and voted for Kamala. But Jake 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.280 is literally such a bitch to us. We've never had 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.000 a chance to tell him. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:20.440 Wow. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.839 And I like thought about my behavior towards them for 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.240 the last like two years, and I was like, that 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.880 is on me, Like I can believe me. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.680 How are you going to coalition build if you can't 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:30.360 even within. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.360 Yourself, don't you? And exactly, and also to be so 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.880 happy for them, I'm like they actually called a gay 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:36.680 guy a bit and they. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:41.400 Were right, yeah, well, well they have became Democrats, so 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:42.880 they could ethically call a gay guy bit. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.520 And if that's what it takes, Mommy, well, I mean, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.160 I still I don't want to put all the blame 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.959 on you, Like why weren't they posting. 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.760 Well, they're on Facebook, sure, I think they're posting the 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.680 entire time they were posting fully, Like, no. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:58.200 I don't. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.800 I think it's also like I also think I don't know. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.079 I can I can interrogate them about the posting. I 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.000 could get some points back this way. Hey, so if 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.360 you had been posting yeah, why aren't you posting? They 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:14.079 have like four young kids though, it's like they are busy, like, okay, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.760 having affect George, what's more effective posting on Facebook or 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.000 raising four children with ethical values that will hope we 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:21.760 become voters on that? 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.840 I just want to say, some of the biggest posters 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.880 on Facebook have four children. Literally Facebook runs on the 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.880 post and those children are often unvaccinated. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.920 Yeah, totally, totally. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.240 I just think, you know, maybe you can raise your 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.160 four children to have some slightly perisive values, but if 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.000 you're posting, you could raise over one thousand children. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.800 And infographic is worth three children. Literally, we're doing the work. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.080 Every time we reshare something that's like seventeen, people's minds 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:50.480 have changed. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.319 What is the morality of an infographic that actually does 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.640 a really good job of conveying of information but is 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:56.600 made by generative AI. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.480 Oh no, that's really interesting, that's amazing. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:07.000 I think it's a quandre. It's still bad, right, it's 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:07.480 it's bad. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.880 I mean infographics, of course, were kidding. They don't actually work, yeah, 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:16.920 but you know, as they do though oh. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.080 Not in a mass way. But sometimes I will learn 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.480 something I've learned from it and that's kind of like. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:22.960 In fact, someone I was canceled for. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.880 An instagraphic, want to cut this again? I don't wait, 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.480 I want to know. Okay, we don't have to cut it. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.680 I was once I once posted an infograph. I was 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.760 asked by an organization to share an infographic RNC no 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.360 all about monkey pocks. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.199 When it was first you can't you can't be a 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.520 responding to people asking me to post about monkey. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.959 Pocks, and it was some very righteous people got very 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:51.480 mad at me. What were they mad about? They said, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.800 the point of the pope, I'm gonna get in trouble 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.959 for this. Basically the point of the post. The point 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.800 of the post was to communicate like the different ways 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.959 could cut wrist by like maybe slowing down your sexual 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.040 behaviors for a few weeks during the spike, And that 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.760 was discriminating against that was that was slut shaming and 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.480 discriminating against sex workers and a few other things. This 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:16.400 is so classic. This is if you wanted to guess 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.920 who tried who, like tried to cancel you can't know. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.520 You could guess it in three guesses. I know it 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:21.680 for a fact. We can't do it on Mike, but 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.920 you could Okay, we have to move. We can't do this. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.240 We'll have to We'll have to be okay. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.120 But no, that was such a quick should I don't. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.160 Oh my god, this is the we can't do this episode. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:32.760 So you guys are right friends. If you went thinking 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.319 we're in the Allied Animal and we're in iHeart Studios, 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.360 we're deep in midtown where it's all happening. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:38.840 Mm hmm. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.840 You know, my big take about the black square not 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:43.280 that bad. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.920 You loved it. I didn't love it, but your shirts 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.679 homage to it tattooed on his sack here. Could you 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.520 imagine if you argue with someone you take off their shirt, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.960 black square tattoo'd be amazing. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.960 And it had like an Instagram like drawn around it, 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.520 so you know Instagram. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:03.080 Oh my god. So here's yeah, I know where you're going. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.120 You know you because I've explained this to you. Just 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:05.760 hit him with it. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:12.560 So the idea that posting a black square was bad 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.839 was that you should actually post something quote unquote more 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.720 meaningful like that was it was like, don't post a 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.680 black square, post literally an infograph that at the time 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:27.280 that was then. Yeah, But the thing with infographic is 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.600 that they are treated by the viewer as the exact 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.040 same thing as black square. No one is stopping on 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.440 the efographic, going to your link tree and clicking the 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.440 three places that you have to donate. It is the 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.920 same level of like quote unquote virtue signaling as posting 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.520 a black square, of course, but there's something more humble 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.160 about it, because you're joining the chorus. You're saying, I'm sure, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.160 I'm like wearing a little pin, I'm showing my solidarity, 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.040 and then I'm moving on at least things like I. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.360 Don't really know what's going on, but I don't support it. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.720 Also, Fast Fast forwards six years and people now are 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.320 getting canceled for quite literally not virtue signaling exactly, Like 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:02.480 so it's like, is it matter? Is it? 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:03.240 Is it good? 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.360 It's also like it is it's really funny that you 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.480 know what my straight topic is. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.320 But I just it's like there's something it's also not 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.480 everyone has to literally be articulate about every issue. So 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.040 sometimes it's you could just put a bumper stick on 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:25.080 your car and just like so I am pro justice, and. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:31.560 That's not George bumper sticks the original infogram, yes, my mind, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.760 little stickers on your last same it's the same exact 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.520 thing as like, oh, I I know that this person's 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.280 mom is safe because they have an HRC exactly equals 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:43.040 thing on their bumper. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.720 If I see an HRC equals thing on a mom's bumper, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.080 I'm not thinking, Oh interesting, So you support this like 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.240 democratic propaganda organization that's not radical enough and actually was 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:54.920 on the wrong side of X y Z issue. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.720 No, it's just exactly. It's literally, she doesn't. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.960 Know what the HR she does. No, she just thinks 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.800 it's fun that it's an equal sign and she's so 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:08.320 Neila Patrick Harris wear it. Yeah, I loved it, So 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:09.000 there you go. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.880 I No, I think it's a genius thing. Obviously we're 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.680 all lost. Instagram is beyond over, but we're still there 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:16.600 and we're still posting. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.280 To be clear, in an ideal world where would be 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.920 bombing data centers, but because that's not what's currently happening, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:24.960 might as well post a black square. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.920 I mean, this is the whole Metgala thing is It 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:30.320 is like to a tee. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.040 I know, but this is it's gonna be irrelevant by 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:32.800 the time this comes out to me. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.160 Not really, It's coming on Tuesdays a week from Okay, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:40.120 go off tea. I got fast tracked, and it was 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.720 just sort of like everyone's like, okay, so everyone's upset, 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.320 everyone's boycotting. Then actually no one's boycotting. No one's upset, 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.040 and I'm sort of like and then everyone's mad at 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.120 the celebrities for going, but they're also not mad at all. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.560 And then we're like, okay, so what is going on? 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:57.640 Well, I think the thing people, the thing that's funny 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.600 is like Sarah Bolson wearing a doll or bill as 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.280 glasses because you either go and almost like sit in 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.000 your quote unquote complicity and you're like, I am yes, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.879 for one night, I am one of the like Gilded Age, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.639 you know, the people the capitol in the hole and 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.879 you guys, yes, you guys can throw tomatoes at me, 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.560 but I get the amazing opportunity to like take an 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.040 amazing photo. You can have it both ways. You can't 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.080 wear the text the rich dress for that night only 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.440 you can't believe text the rich always backfire. 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.800