Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club, Yep,
Speaker 1: the world the most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Charlamagne to God just hilarious is here? NBA is not?
Speaker 1: Laura Leo says, filling in, and we got the fabulous
Speaker 1: Coco Jones here. What's happening? Coco? Nice album?
Speaker 2: It's your debut album, it's my first album.
Speaker 1: Why not more? I'm gonna tell you right now, definitely
Speaker 1: don't care about you, and I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why they sent your album at
Speaker 1: seven forty four a m. This morning. And I said, no,
Speaker 1: we should cancel the interview because it's not fair to
Speaker 1: you as an artist, and it's not fair to us
Speaker 1: as as hosts, and because because you know you're you're
Speaker 1: sitting here now and then you know people will be
Speaker 1: in your face talking to you about everything except for
Speaker 1: your music, and people will wonder why why are they
Speaker 1: always just focused on the mess? Why are they talking
Speaker 1: about everything but their music? It's because your label didn't
Speaker 1: send it until seven forty four this morning. We're doing
Speaker 1: a show. Who got time to listen to the to
Speaker 1: the album?
Speaker 2: I hear you?
Speaker 1: So yes, that's that's the reason why that was the
Speaker 1: hold up. So I don't know what the label told you,
Speaker 1: but that was the reason. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's cancel the interview.
Speaker 2: Dang, so you still want to do it, Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: doing it now.
Speaker 1: But I just like that Lauren did a crash. Listen.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I was rushing for these papers. Okay,
Speaker 3: because I am a fan. I do feel like you
Speaker 3: deserve your moment. But it went down how he said
Speaker 3: it went down.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to listen to it and left.
Speaker 1: Andyody was like, I ain't listen to it. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do it like that.
Speaker 4: And he didn't say cancel, he said reschedule. He said
Speaker 4: cancel you.
Speaker 2: He was like, we should reschedule it because that's not
Speaker 2: fair to either.
Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think it's fair to you
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 5: I definitely feel like I would want you all to
Speaker 5: hear it if y'all would want to ask me questions
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 2: I also know, though, like there's only I only got
Speaker 2: the right now.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm going on tour right after I dropped
Speaker 5: this album, so I do want to still talk about
Speaker 5: it and I can still I can share what I
Speaker 5: know and y'all can listen to it when you get
Speaker 5: to listen to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, my label.
Speaker 1: Let me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you just say that.
Speaker 1: And it's in the antil seven forty four. This morning
Speaker 1: it was a radio station.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I love my label.
Speaker 4: They be doing right by me, but doing what I
Speaker 4: would do if somebody talk about one of y'all, I'd
Speaker 4: be like, what, like.
Speaker 1: Y'all while we're.
Speaker 4: Here, Hi, Hey, how you feeling. I'm feeling good. I'm
Speaker 4: feeling good. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3: Debut album, Yeah, but like you've been, I feel like
Speaker 3: your music has been so big, but this is your
Speaker 3: technical like first album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is my first album ever.
Speaker 5: Which is weird though, because I feel like on one
Speaker 5: on one side, I feel like it's like deja vu
Speaker 5: in away, But on the other side, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 5: technically I have never put out an album, so I've
Speaker 5: been it's like weird to say that like an album.
Speaker 5: I've been used to say an EP, which is different.
Speaker 5: It's different but similar to what is.
Speaker 4: The difference What do you think the difference is between
Speaker 4: the EP and an actual album.
Speaker 5: I think honestly the weight that they hold. I mean,
Speaker 5: an EP is like a feeler, it's a little safer,
Speaker 5: it's a little like less serious, and then an album
Speaker 5: is like, you know, it's a chapter. You really respect
Speaker 5: it as an entire project. And then there's like a
Speaker 5: way more serious like rollout, and there's way more intentions
Speaker 5: behind it. I feel like with my EP, there were
Speaker 5: no expectations, and now with my album, I have so
Speaker 5: many expectations me myself and then of course.
Speaker 2: Like the world.
Speaker 1: And that's why the label should send it to people,
Speaker 1: especially radio stations before they do interviews. Lauren, you say
Speaker 1: what you said before Coco Walking, You keep that better,
Speaker 1: keep that same energy.
Speaker 3: No, no, I have the first of all, I said
Speaker 3: it all in love, so it's gonna be said. But
Speaker 3: I'm making sure Jess has the album's research that we
Speaker 3: had because I do want to talk about it because
Speaker 3: what I feel like happens with you is you have
Speaker 3: these big moments like I see you, and when those
Speaker 3: things drop, it's everything Coco Jones and we as fans
Speaker 3: feel like you are such a prize to R and
Speaker 3: B and what you do. You deserve that consistently, but
Speaker 3: then when things like today happen that if I didn't push,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Doing this, and you deserve that moment.
Speaker 3: It's unfair to you, and I think that that's sometimes
Speaker 3: why as a fan, we feel like your music like suffers,
Speaker 3: like we have to like search for more than just
Speaker 3: like the clickie stuff. And you know, like even in
Speaker 3: listening to the music, I was happy we got to
Speaker 3: listen to it, even though I only got the five songs,
Speaker 3: because I could even feel in your music this is
Speaker 3: different because to me, it's like you're more into yourself.
Speaker 2: There's a lot more like sexual conversation. If you're a woman.
Speaker 3: You're here, and I know that that's what you want
Speaker 3: people to see you as because you've worked so hard.
Speaker 3: I don't think sometimes that the way that things appear
Speaker 3: to us as fans, that they're set up. You get that,
Speaker 3: and I don't think it's fair to you. That's what
Speaker 3: I said before you came in here.
Speaker 2: I could definitely understand that perspective.
Speaker 5: I feel like also though, like there's just so much
Speaker 5: out every freaking day, you know, so in general, it's
Speaker 5: like who has the real formula.
Speaker 2: To put everyone's eyes on that one thing all the time.
Speaker 5: If so, then everyone would copy that and then that
Speaker 5: would be a wash, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: I'm like, there really is no formula. I can understand that,
Speaker 5: but I'm like, I don't even know what to tell
Speaker 5: people to do.
Speaker 2: The people lot.
Speaker 5: I'm seeing what they're supposed to do because I'm looking
Speaker 5: at you right there. I'm seeing you doing the things
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm doing everything that I'm told to do.
Speaker 5: So it's like it's it's no real formula, it's how
Speaker 5: you look at it. And I love the way that
Speaker 5: you look at it because it's a lot that you
Speaker 5: have to offer.
Speaker 4: You an actress, you're an artist, and speaking of how
Speaker 4: we look at things, taste, the visual, what made you
Speaker 4: step out and be like that?
Speaker 2: I've never seen you like that?
Speaker 4: Now, you're always sexy, always, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: But you've never ever popped out like that the visual
Speaker 4: for taste? What made you say I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: just give them a lot more sexy than she was
Speaker 4: very much time is now I'm saying, never even know
Speaker 4: that she could dance like that, honestly, clockt.
Speaker 2: What what ignited that Coco Jones Fire.
Speaker 5: What was that? Well, first of all, I mean the
Speaker 5: song it's self, it is sexy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But I think for me, I want people to already know, like, hey,
Speaker 5: she does multiple different sides of her, Like of course
Speaker 5: I can do like the belting and I'm in my
Speaker 5: feelings and I'm going there and it's vocals and it's
Speaker 5: all of that, but like, I don't want to do
Speaker 5: a whole show of that. You know, That's just not
Speaker 5: how I authentically feel right now. I mean, I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 5: I have other sides to me, the way I talk
Speaker 5: with my girls, the way I talk when I'm mad,
Speaker 5: Like I want to be able to show those different
Speaker 5: sides too. So I feel like, when do I do that,
Speaker 5: it would have to be now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: to like get people warmed up to different versions of me.
Speaker 5: And honestly, when I made Taste, my album was already done.
Speaker 5: It was supposed to be out in October, and then
Speaker 5: it just wasn't flowing right, so we you know, pushed
Speaker 5: it back, and so I kind of had no I
Speaker 5: guess expectations that I put on myself. Yeah, and I
Speaker 5: was kind of like I did my part so like
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna have fun, and then that led to Taste,
Speaker 5: which to me, it was just so fun and it
Speaker 5: was freeing and it was scary, so I just I
Speaker 5: just wanted to do it.
Speaker 2: I was scared.
Speaker 1: So what was def Jam? You had that since October?
Speaker 1: Def Jam didn't sit until seven forty four this morning?
Speaker 2: You know what, where is the grace in the room?
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 1: Where is aisten? I just want the best for Coco Jones.
Speaker 1: Thank you said that they're doing good things for you.
Speaker 1: I'm just simply saying, why not more?
Speaker 2: Okay, well you ate that part.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 2: I ate that parts the album.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so a version of it was done in October,
Speaker 5: but a lot of it changed. A lot of a
Speaker 5: change like me, I mean, Taste happened because there was
Speaker 5: no you know, there was no expectation, and it was
Speaker 5: scary because I was gonna get mixed reactions. I knew that,
Speaker 5: like some people were going to be like, you're this girl,
Speaker 5: You're the singing girl, don't dance, don't do that, don't
Speaker 5: be sexy, you know what I'm saying, And then other
Speaker 5: people were going to live for it. So I kind
Speaker 5: of just had to be okay with that because I
Speaker 5: feel like, what am I supposed to do? You know,
Speaker 5: it's my life too, and I'm still a developing artist.
Speaker 5: These are the things I want to do and try
Speaker 5: and maybe one day I'll look back. I mean I
Speaker 5: probably would look back at some of the things that
Speaker 5: I did and be like, but like, give me the.
Speaker 2: Time, though you keep it. I mean I did be like, funny,
Speaker 2: you keep it tasteful when you.
Speaker 4: Do absolutely even taste was tasteful and it was the
Speaker 4: non to Britain experience. Well actually though that was that
Speaker 4: was it was cut down and down and down.
Speaker 2: I really did.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I really did try a lot of
Speaker 5: things because I wanted to see what they look like
Speaker 5: on myself. Because also like I don't know how I
Speaker 5: feel doing something until I try it. So either I
Speaker 5: could live with like the regret and the fear of
Speaker 5: like I don't even want to push it like that,
Speaker 5: or I could try things and luckily I have a
Speaker 5: team who's like, try it. You know, they'll they'll help
Speaker 5: me facilitate figuring out who I am all the way.
Speaker 2: And so I did do way more than that's in
Speaker 2: that video. So it just wasn't saying right, is that why?
Speaker 3: So to the time that he talked about October to
Speaker 3: when we getting it down, and that's why things have
Speaker 3: been like changing and that's.
Speaker 2: Why we got the stuff like because everything was changing.
Speaker 5: No, the songs changed from October, some of them changed,
Speaker 5: some of them changed from October to now the album
Speaker 5: coming out, but Taste the video, I was just saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: the edits of it like they it got shopped and
Speaker 5: screwed a lot because I wasn't feeling some the ways
Speaker 5: that I looked. I wasn't feeling for myself, like it
Speaker 5: didn't feel like me. You know, some of it felt
Speaker 5: like me trying to do something versus some of it
Speaker 5: felt like me being me. And I just kept what
Speaker 5: was like a green light in my spirit, you know?
Speaker 2: Is that is now? Is Coco en taste?
Speaker 4: Are Is that like happy in a relationship, Coco, or
Speaker 4: like I'm getting I'm getting done right, Coco. I think
Speaker 4: what I'm saying or is that just just a side
Speaker 4: of you that we have not seen that you just
Speaker 4: you you know what I'm saying. I think it's just
Speaker 4: I'm grown and you know me and my girls. We
Speaker 4: taught like this, like when we when we're flirty, like
Speaker 4: when we're sensual, like were grown.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like music is all of
Speaker 5: the things. It's in love, it's late night, it's anger,
Speaker 5: it's all of these emotions. So I wanted to in
Speaker 5: this album. I wanted to try to show all the
Speaker 5: different sides of me and really just learn, like learn
Speaker 5: from myself.
Speaker 2: How did that?
Speaker 5: How did that make me feel? How did the video
Speaker 5: make me feel? How the response is Being on tour
Speaker 5: and seeing what people like and what they don't like,
Speaker 5: it all all kind of is like lights up in
Speaker 5: my brain, Like Okay, now I know that, Like I
Speaker 5: feel like it highlights things. And then I'm like, oh
Speaker 5: that's what I like. Oh That's what I should be
Speaker 5: doing more of, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: So okay, because first of all, when you talk about relationships,
Speaker 3: you're glowing instantly. We had so you somebody's leaving a
Speaker 3: legacy on your lips when they kiss you. Then you
Speaker 3: got a e O m G.
Speaker 2: It was something to say.
Speaker 3: It sounds when you're feeling good, when you're in the
Speaker 3: midst of all of the things you got that one girl.
Speaker 2: You got the song where I forget Here we Go?
Speaker 3: Is that the song where you talking about you try
Speaker 3: and get over somebody but then won't leave you along
Speaker 3: because but you lay up with your new boo. You've
Speaker 3: been talking about being happy in these interviews and the
Speaker 3: people are saying that it's Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 2: Is this your bab? Is that what's happening?
Speaker 1: I'm happy.
Speaker 2: That's all I got to say about it. I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: so it is and the music gives happy, So I'm
Speaker 2: happy for you.
Speaker 4: Yes, No the nigga who sell houses irid.
Speaker 5: But no, I talk about as much as I feel
Speaker 5: like I want to talk about because I'm not the
Speaker 5: type to be giving out all of my yeahs. That's
Speaker 5: not my truth. I give as much as I can,
Speaker 5: and I give my everything when it comes to this
Speaker 5: music shit. So I'm like, yeah, I'm happy, and yeah,
Speaker 5: y'all know it is.
Speaker 2: Did you write all the songs on the on the album?
Speaker 2: I co wrote a lot of them, I will say,
Speaker 2: and a couple of them I didn't write, Okay, here
Speaker 2: we Go? Did you write here we Go? Okay?
Speaker 3: When I listen to it, I can feel that you
Speaker 3: wrote it because of the way that you sing it
Speaker 3: versus some of the other songs. Not that they're not good,
Speaker 3: but you beat Yes, I heard that, yeah that when
Speaker 3: I was like this one right here, I know she
Speaker 3: wrote this one. I just I feel that when you're
Speaker 3: writing and you say you don't want to give everything
Speaker 3: to everybody. But I listened to this project and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my girl, it's in love and it's good. How
Speaker 3: do you hold back on certain things to not give
Speaker 3: it all because it's it's oozing out of you in
Speaker 3: the music?
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you well. I feel like a lot
Speaker 5: of the things I talk about are very relatable. It's
Speaker 5: not like I'm like and then we pulled up at
Speaker 5: something like and it's very specific to me.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I try to make songs that are useful, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So I'm trying to say things that
Speaker 5: I feel, but in a general way. And also, I
Speaker 5: love to co write because I feel like I don't
Speaker 5: have the only perspective and I'm trying to make songs that,
Speaker 5: you know, have a wider range of perspectives. So I'll
Speaker 5: be having me and somebody else or a couple of
Speaker 5: people going back and forth to make it feel like
Speaker 5: this is what we really say, This is how we
Speaker 5: really talk as people.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And then also I feel
Speaker 2: like other than that, in like interviews, you know, you just.
Speaker 1: Pivot right line from here we go because I don't
Speaker 1: know what this mean? Why has got to be your way?
Speaker 1: I wanted to be mine? What you think this is for?
Speaker 1: Play must be out your mind, Like.
Speaker 5: I was basically saying, when you're playing with somebody's emotions,
Speaker 5: when you in and out of their life, like like
Speaker 5: do you feel like that's funny or hot or like
Speaker 5: are you into that?
Speaker 1: Like what's wrong with oh okay okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So cause you use word four plates, but you're talking.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, Like are you thinking you when.
Speaker 2: You're playing with my life? When you're playing, like, do
Speaker 2: you think I like that? Because in the songs, she's like, Yo,
Speaker 2: I'm happy over here.
Speaker 3: I like where I'm at. But you just you pop
Speaker 3: up in my likes, you showing up places like you
Speaker 3: think that this is like this is it like that,
Speaker 3: no leave me alone? But he's not leaving her alone.
Speaker 3: And those guys be kind of little key having a
Speaker 3: little hold even though they shouldn't like the guy. So
Speaker 3: if you're moved on and you're trying.
Speaker 2: To just like everybody has had that person that you
Speaker 2: know can always slide.
Speaker 3: Back either, You're right, I don't have that because I'm
Speaker 3: disconnected from anything toxic and I'm moving into my glory
Speaker 3: and my happiness.
Speaker 2: Wow. I love that. That is so foul that no,
Speaker 2: I know they be in your phone, that you just
Speaker 2: be blocking that I'm they he won. That was the
Speaker 2: one together pivoted.
Speaker 1: So that was where we going with this.
Speaker 2: When warn anyway, I thank you because.
Speaker 1: Why why?
Speaker 2: Why? More?
Speaker 1: Why not more?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: What did you did you come up with that title?
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's one of the songs that is on
Speaker 5: the album. It's actually featuring wy D Marley, and it's
Speaker 5: really dope. It's like an island vibe. And I really
Speaker 5: loved that title because I felt like that's what I
Speaker 5: kept asking myself, like why would I hold back? You know,
Speaker 5: why wouldn't I do the things that I feel like
Speaker 5: I really want to do? And I feel like all
Speaker 5: the answers were rooted in fear, like, oh, they might
Speaker 5: not like it or it might not work, And I'm
Speaker 5: like I would rather just try things and be able
Speaker 5: to like learn from them, then then not try and
Speaker 5: wonder what would have happened, if you know. So that
Speaker 5: kind of led to why Not More being the album name,
Speaker 5: but also I feel like it was a little less serious,
Speaker 5: like it was meaning why not More or like self
Speaker 5: titled Coco whatever. But I'm like, I don't even know
Speaker 5: if I fully know Coco yet myself, So I don't
Speaker 5: know if that's my truest true is true?
Speaker 2: Is truth? To name my album?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 5: I feel like why not More resonated with me more
Speaker 5: because I'm just I ask myself a lot of questions,
Speaker 5: I ask my team a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious and I'm still like trying to figure
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: I love that because it feels like, you know, you
Speaker 1: give your all to everything you do. So when you
Speaker 1: give your all but death jam doesn't. How does that
Speaker 1: make you feel?
Speaker 2: Why are you still on that? You know why? I'm
Speaker 2: just asking that one time from the store.
Speaker 4: This is crazy, It is crazy, My god. I'm like,
Speaker 4: here's what I really feel.
Speaker 5: I really feel like it takes a lot of effort
Speaker 5: and time to make an artist work and for a
Speaker 5: developing artist, and I feel like I want what I
Speaker 5: really want people to do is to look at me
Speaker 5: with the perspective of like, I'm not trying to do
Speaker 5: like the trending here today and I'm gone type thing.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to make things that are timeless. But that
Speaker 5: takes time and that takes effort, And I feel like
Speaker 5: I have a team that does a lot for me
Speaker 5: and has effort for me, Like I wouldn't be up
Speaker 5: here saying that if that was my truth.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When they dropped the ball this morning and at a
Speaker 1: crucial time like this, they shouldn't be doing that. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So when would you prefer to listen to it a
Speaker 2: week ago?
Speaker 1: You were on the schedule. A week ago should have
Speaker 1: been the album. We should have marinated with the album
Speaker 1: for a while to really be able to have a conversation.
Speaker 1: I think albums are different than movies. I don't like
Speaker 1: to watch movies before I have conversations with people about
Speaker 1: their movies because you don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 2: But I think albums, Okay, well, I got five singles out,
Speaker 2: did you listen to them? They've been out?
Speaker 1: When you let me hear this morning Taste, and it
Speaker 1: was another one was the one you let me this
Speaker 1: morning hear, I go here we go taste.
Speaker 2: You need to hear that ae O MG, so he
Speaker 2: knows you think? So yeah what he said American Eagle?
Speaker 5: Oh my guy?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? For real?
Speaker 1: Though? Ay?
Speaker 2: OMG. So basically it's just like a freaky song and
Speaker 2: it's like legs on the legs on the ceiling.
Speaker 5: Got me like MG, like it's just something to say.
Speaker 5: It's just MG is But when is the AE was
Speaker 5: you know when you say your vowels.
Speaker 2: A E, I owe you that? Yeah, like she's just yeah,
Speaker 2: we were just having fun.
Speaker 1: Vowels.
Speaker 2: I can't with that. But no, I'm really excited and
Speaker 2: you could listen to the album. It'll be out on Friday,
Speaker 2: and then I'm curious to hear your thoughts next time
Speaker 2: I see you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, will you finish him?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I got more stuff that I want to ask you. So,
Speaker 3: even in this moment right now, you're handling this conversation
Speaker 3: very very well.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Is this because you've done everything from Disney to we've
Speaker 3: seen your Fresh Prince Belair, the Remaker what is it
Speaker 3: called on Peacocklair on belair. You've been doing it for
Speaker 3: a long time. Does that Does this your ability to
Speaker 3: do this and still say human come from that or
Speaker 3: are you daily like kind of like prepping yourself up, like, hey,
Speaker 3: these are things that are going to be asked.
Speaker 2: I got to be ready for like are you just
Speaker 2: going and you're like, YOA, I got this.
Speaker 5: No. I think I do have to remind myself like
Speaker 5: when I'm doing press, like, okay, these are probably things
Speaker 5: that people are gonna want to talk about. What do
Speaker 5: I like, I want to be into myself, what I
Speaker 5: want to say, you know what I'm saying so that
Speaker 5: I'm not like caught off guard, even though you did
Speaker 5: kind of catch you off guard. I can't any hope,
Speaker 5: but you know, I do have that media training period.
Speaker 5: But other than that, I feel like I feel like honestly,
Speaker 5: having the window of time where nobody was really checking
Speaker 5: for me really brought me to earth, you know, and
Speaker 5: it in a way not like I was a gas
Speaker 5: up or anything, but I was just like a kid
Speaker 5: actor and like you didn't.
Speaker 2: You don't really have a personality, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, You're just doing You're just doing
Speaker 5: what you gotta do and you love it and that's
Speaker 5: happy and that's fun.
Speaker 2: But I didn't live at all, Like I didn't experience much.
Speaker 2: I was not like wild'n out. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't do anything really because I wanted to work,
Speaker 5: so I just wanted to be right for the job.
Speaker 5: So I think that brought me to a reality and
Speaker 5: like a kind of normalcy that I feel like I'm
Speaker 5: I even now, I'm like, hey, I'm really not like
Speaker 5: normal like I feel like I am. But you know,
Speaker 5: I can't just go and move the way I want
Speaker 5: to move because life is different. But I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm like I'm never going to be able to change
Speaker 5: because that window of.
Speaker 2: Time like was so real to me of like absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5: Going on that I feel like it'll never like nothing
Speaker 5: will really gas my head up and nothing will really
Speaker 5: take me down ever.
Speaker 1: Again, what it is stuck with you? You know you
Speaker 1: were a child start, So from what did you learn
Speaker 1: as a child star that stays with you? Nothing?
Speaker 5: That this is business sometimes and it's not personal and
Speaker 5: I can't like let it correlate with my self worth.
Speaker 5: You know, some of it is like so out of
Speaker 5: my control that it's like and it's gone. You know,
Speaker 5: it's really not me. It's really not me, you know.
Speaker 5: And as long as I like I feel like I'm
Speaker 5: giving my all to the things that are in my control,
Speaker 5: I'm happy, you know. And there's so much that I like.
Speaker 5: I can't make this album do any of the things
Speaker 5: that I wanted to do. I can't make anything be
Speaker 5: the way that I want it to be. But what
Speaker 5: I create that I can control, So that to me,
Speaker 5: I feel like has become the only thing that I
Speaker 5: correlate with, Like did I do a good job or not?
Speaker 2: Like is it something that I could control? Did I
Speaker 2: do my all there?
Speaker 1: And I'm happy with That's your serenity prayer.
Speaker 2: That's a serenity prayer, your that is right serenity prayer.
Speaker 1: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I
Speaker 1: can change, courage and change the things I can, and
Speaker 1: the wisdom to know the difference. Yeah, once you put
Speaker 1: that album mount into the ecosystem sute of your control,
Speaker 1: whatever it sells, whatever radio does with it, like, it's
Speaker 1: you did the best you could already in the studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: I love how you defend your team. I love how
Speaker 4: you speak up for your team. And I love the
Speaker 4: fact that your mom has been like by your side
Speaker 4: through all this. So she your manager.
Speaker 5: No, my mom's not my manager. She she was for
Speaker 5: the time when they're body you know. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: feel like now my mom is more like my wife's counsel.
Speaker 2: And I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. Definitely when she makes sure to tell her,
Speaker 1: make sure to tell her. Make sure to tell deaf jam.
Speaker 1: Make sure to tell your mom about death Jam.
Speaker 2: She's gonna watch this. You's gonna watch it. She probably
Speaker 2: gonna be your d M.
Speaker 3: Definitely, she's gonna say thank you, Okay, intend to cook
Speaker 3: on her first mind ever, well her, that would really
Speaker 3: the first. It was like it was like it was
Speaker 3: like the first uh first just brought up your mom
Speaker 3: and I know your mom used to help you do
Speaker 3: in package all those times.
Speaker 5: Actually she said she bought a lot of little little
Speaker 5: packaging stickers and put them all there like squares and
Speaker 5: put it in the thing and then it came out
Speaker 5: printed like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how she did that. It's really giving it.
Speaker 1: I used to go to the office Max and get
Speaker 1: those stickers and you used to put them on there.
Speaker 1: That's how you used start the mixtapes and everything.
Speaker 5: Dang, I don't know how she figured out how to
Speaker 5: do that, but yeah, my mom was definitely like, you go,
Speaker 5: you got to have somebody who's willing to take you
Speaker 5: to those places to wait on them sets for you
Speaker 5: and like to you know, a job that you're auditioning for.
Speaker 2: You might not hear back whether you or not.
Speaker 5: You got that four months, and you might have to
Speaker 5: do so much in the meantime to like prove your
Speaker 5: prove your worth, you know, so somebody, especially if you're
Speaker 5: you know, you're a kid, somebody's got to be willing
Speaker 5: to do that with you. And I think my whole
Speaker 5: family honestly has invested in this because me and my
Speaker 5: mom would be gone. So that means my mom was
Speaker 5: gone from her kids, my mom was gone from her husband.
Speaker 5: We all like we knew what it was that we
Speaker 5: were like working awards and so my win is like
Speaker 5: is everybody's win because we all all put something in.
Speaker 1: What were your earliest memories of wanting to be who
Speaker 1: you are now? Was that your dream or did somebody
Speaker 1: instill that dream in you?
Speaker 5: It was definitely me, Like even when I look at
Speaker 5: little kid videos of me, like I would be like
Speaker 5: not even fully forming sentences, but I would be singing though,
Speaker 5: and they'd be like singing and I'd be like, yes,
Speaker 5: I would love to sing.
Speaker 2: So it was it was always me. I didn't think
Speaker 2: that like it could be a tangible job though, Like
Speaker 2: I knew.
Speaker 5: Sports was a real job because my dad played the NFL,
Speaker 5: so I was like, Okay, this is a real job,
Speaker 5: this can actually be something you do. But I didn't
Speaker 5: know music could be something you really do. I saw
Speaker 5: it on TV and I thought, you know, those people
Speaker 5: are doing that. But it wasn't until like my mom
Speaker 5: introduced me to the opportunities that I was like, you
Speaker 5: can try to do this yourself, like it's something I
Speaker 5: could do, and then.
Speaker 2: There was no stopping me.
Speaker 1: But then you also had absence because you got ano
Speaker 1: acting as well. Yeah yeah, so which bug do you
Speaker 1: think you know? And I guess infected you the most.
Speaker 1: Music definitely mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I respect acting because it's definitely outside my comfort
Speaker 5: zone and it's stories that are like outside of me,
Speaker 5: and you do it well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: But I think music is like it's just like home
Speaker 2: to me. It just feels safe. So that was your
Speaker 2: first love of it and acting? Yeah? Absolutely. Are you
Speaker 2: looking forward to more film though?
Speaker 5: Oh yes, I literally went to South Africa this year
Speaker 5: to do a film and I really think it's going
Speaker 5: to be dope. I really ideally I would love to
Speaker 5: be able to do both every year. I think that
Speaker 5: that's really cool when artists can do that, So I
Speaker 5: want to try to keep that up.
Speaker 2: Oh do you have a favorite song on this album
Speaker 2: or why not?
Speaker 4: More?
Speaker 2: My favorite song?
Speaker 5: I mean it changes all the time, but I would
Speaker 5: say right now it's probably by myself. It's called It's
Speaker 5: called by Myself. It's basically saying I want to be
Speaker 5: comfortable by myself. I think I love that one because,
Speaker 5: you know, like it reminds me, like what's really important.
Speaker 5: Like I gotta know myself. You know, whatever's happening around
Speaker 5: me is gonna I can't let it influence me or
Speaker 5: affect me. I gotta know myself. And also I want
Speaker 5: to be really in tune with myself. I don't want
Speaker 5: to lose my voice. Yeah, knowing who I am, knowing
Speaker 5: what I want out of all of this, Knowing what's
Speaker 5: important to me, and also if this all went away,
Speaker 5: it would be me by myself.
Speaker 2: I cool with that. I always want to check myself
Speaker 2: upt that.
Speaker 1: Have you always feel comfortable by yourself?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No, I definitely feel like.
Speaker 5: If anything, I felt like something was wrong if I
Speaker 5: didn't have people around me, like maybe like you know,
Speaker 5: you're not doing what you need to be doing, you're
Speaker 5: not booked with all the things like nah. But I
Speaker 5: think also by myself, to me, it doesn't mean alone.
Speaker 5: It means like intentionally sitting with yourself, like like learning
Speaker 5: yourself and taking that quiet time. I feel like that's
Speaker 5: when I get a lot of ideas. I feel like
Speaker 5: that's when I can like feel things and like unpack things,
Speaker 5: like what the heck was that? Actually I really didn't
Speaker 5: like the way he was saying that. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying nothing like that. I'm just saying, like you
Speaker 5: really like can think about things that are going on.
Speaker 5: There's so much sound, there's so much going on, there's
Speaker 5: so much fast paced that being by yourself, I feel
Speaker 5: like it's like crucial for self growth.
Speaker 2: You know, did you see that viral video of you?
Speaker 4: And the reason why I did you see because a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't be seeing stuff for themselves, like
Speaker 4: just because it hits blogs don't means you see it.
Speaker 4: But this is why I was so shocked when when
Speaker 4: I saw a taste, because it was a video a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago that I saw that went viral. Uh,
Speaker 4: and it was you rehearsing. She was looking like I
Speaker 4: ain't doing all that because they was like gy rating
Speaker 4: on each other. I guess your choreographer or whoever was
Speaker 4: displaying what they wanted to do, and you, like.
Speaker 2: Your face was like, I'm not No.
Speaker 5: I was so scared it was okay. So he was
Speaker 5: throwing her up in the air. Yes, and I'm tall,
Speaker 5: but I don't like heights that I can't. It ain't
Speaker 5: my choice, you know. But that's why I was looking
Speaker 5: scared of But I was proud of myself. I told
Speaker 5: I told the choreographer at least, I said, do what
Speaker 5: you would do, not what you think I can do,
Speaker 5: and let me see what happens.
Speaker 2: After day, I got it's too hard, I'm gonna tell you, Gila,
Speaker 2: And some of it was just too hard, but I
Speaker 2: was proud of myself like trying it. I was literally
Speaker 2: in a hoop.
Speaker 5: I had an air list come and like teach me
Speaker 5: how to be in a hoop and for what part
Speaker 5: of the video? I really was proud of myself went
Speaker 5: outside of my coming zone.
Speaker 1: I was living for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked about earlier the moment you said when
Speaker 3: people weren't checking for you. It's like in between your
Speaker 3: Disney and like your next song and stuff of that nature.
Speaker 3: And I watched an interview where you were saying that
Speaker 3: you were like almost embarrassed to go out and get
Speaker 3: a job at certain points and things of that nature.
Speaker 3: How do you do it because people were virally saying
Speaker 3: things about where you've been and stuff. How do you
Speaker 3: deal with those moments when you're viral? But it's like
Speaker 3: for stuff that you don't care to be viral for
Speaker 3: now that you know yourself a bit, but you're still
Speaker 3: figuring yourself out.
Speaker 5: I feel like the Internet isn't real. I'm like, what
Speaker 5: is this place? It's not even like for real. What's
Speaker 5: real is the people that I tangibly talk to who
Speaker 5: know me, you know. So I'm like, this is so
Speaker 5: not real. So if something is going viral, I mean
Speaker 5: I might get a little sommer drop like y cause
Speaker 5: I'm like used to people talking about my music only
Speaker 5: and so anything else is getting. It's like it's still
Speaker 5: new to me that people care about what I got
Speaker 5: going on. Personally, I'm like, y'all care about that?
Speaker 2: Okay, how can we talk.
Speaker 1: About your music if we don't get the album? Tell
Speaker 1: the seven forty four that's not your fault though it's
Speaker 1: talk about that. Cham continue anyway.
Speaker 5: I really don't take it seriously because I feel like
Speaker 5: people's attention Spanish social it'll be important today, gone tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you don't talk about it. That's why I
Speaker 4: had to ask you, did you see the video I'm
Speaker 4: talking about because a lot of it far removed from
Speaker 4: social media and the internet.
Speaker 2: It's not a real place.
Speaker 4: It's a whole bunch of people who just say shit
Speaker 4: and just because they feel like they can have a
Speaker 4: voice now it's like all right, cool so and I
Speaker 4: feel like.
Speaker 5: Even when people are like talking, I'm like, they're still talking.
Speaker 5: I'm like, go stream the record. If you're about something,
Speaker 5: go streaming the difference.
Speaker 2: I know that's right. I'm not mad. I'm not blocking nobody.
Speaker 2: If you want to talk, keep it on. I need
Speaker 2: them to know that you're active on this page. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: What are the plans for the album released? This weekend.
Speaker 2: I have a party in Miami on Saturday, in LA
Speaker 2: on Saturday.
Speaker 5: And I'm doing a performance tonight that is like an
Speaker 5: exclusive thing with Motorilla. But I'm really excited. I'm going
Speaker 5: on tour, so been prepping for that. I'm doing interviews
Speaker 5: during the day and I've been doing my rehearsals at night.
Speaker 5: I'm excited to put the show together and performing everywhere.
Speaker 5: I'm going to Europe too to do some shows. I'm
Speaker 5: really excited for it.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to write a song about this. Him
Speaker 2: getting on your nerves all day to day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, please, I am here for Coco. Coco was
Speaker 1: born in Sccoline and she was raising Tennessee, but she
Speaker 1: got that socculine and so I just want her to
Speaker 1: always be getting done right.
Speaker 2: You feel that you feel people staying you. I know
Speaker 2: when girl, Yes, yes, I thought you said staying.
Speaker 3: No, staying you like when something had because I don't
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Disney stuff, because sometimes they
Speaker 3: do that with certain child actors and child stars. But
Speaker 3: I think it's just because we feel that you really
Speaker 3: care about your work. So when anything else happens, like
Speaker 3: when the scissor the Shannon Sharp question about Sciss BBL
Speaker 3: and it. Sissa commented the world was there was it
Speaker 3: was a staying thing. It was like, this was not
Speaker 3: for Coco. And then Sissy came out and said, no,
Speaker 3: why would that be a Coco Jones question?
Speaker 2: I love Scissa. I was like, I was really caught
Speaker 2: off guard by that.
Speaker 5: But no, I do feel the energy and people tell
Speaker 5: me all the time, like when I see them, they're like,
Speaker 5: we're so proud of you, like we're rude of You're
Speaker 5: on my thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you.
Speaker 5: I don't really know how to feel because for such
Speaker 5: a long time I was like, you and your brain
Speaker 5: are likeybody, nobody cares.
Speaker 2: And then to see trust me, it was giving Desert Island.
Speaker 3: It's because you had hides and lows. That's what I
Speaker 3: was talking about earlier, because when you when you when
Speaker 3: the low hit, you were out the way, you weren't
Speaker 3: doing much anything, and you had to come out the internet.
Speaker 2: That's real about this what I literally, yeah, she had
Speaker 2: to go online and talk. I did a whole video
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, people who know people.
Speaker 3: It was No, it's because I'm locked into your journey
Speaker 3: and I appreciated your journey because you talked about, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is what's really happening right now, even I don't
Speaker 3: want to tell y'all. And that's why I think we
Speaker 3: like lock in with you because we can identify the
Speaker 3: ups and downs and it's real and you got to
Speaker 3: fight to come back, and when you come back, it's
Speaker 3: always good music facts.
Speaker 2: And I do appreciate that. I really really do.
Speaker 5: I do feel the love and I want to like
Speaker 5: give some think good in return for the people who care,
Speaker 5: you know, and support me.
Speaker 2: I'm trying.
Speaker 5: I want to give something good. So I'm glad that,
Speaker 5: like y'all know that I really really care about my
Speaker 5: stuff real.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make stuff at last.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I love what I do and I would
Speaker 5: I would do it all again, even though it was
Speaker 5: so uncomfortable at that point, for this payoff and for
Speaker 5: also to inspire the next girl, like take it easy
Speaker 5: on yourself, have some grace.
Speaker 2: It don't mean it's you. Sometimes they just don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, what point did you get to that point
Speaker 2: where you was like, yo, bro, I'm doing everything I
Speaker 2: can do. Mmm.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's always kind of where I was at.
Speaker 5: I couldn't stop doing like what I loved because it
Speaker 5: was still so important to me. But I think when
Speaker 5: I told what.
Speaker 2: I did that video about everything that happened, I was like,
Speaker 2: this might be the last thing I ever do, so
Speaker 2: I'm just keep it real.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna go after this, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like that was always my truth, Like I'm
Speaker 5: giving it everything I got, so I can live with that.
Speaker 1: And it's just life and life. If you really believe
Speaker 1: in God, you got to respect the process real period.
Speaker 1: Because I don't even believe in so called good or bad.
Speaker 1: I just believe everything is part of one long process.
Speaker 1: Whatever I'm going through, this is what God wants me
Speaker 1: to go through.
Speaker 5: I completely agree with that, and I think there's a
Speaker 5: certain amount of faith too that like if you know
Speaker 5: it's on the way, how would you move?
Speaker 2: And so sometimes I.
Speaker 5: Would post that cover, delete the app because I knew
Speaker 5: the engagement was so low.
Speaker 2: But if it was on the way, how would I move?
Speaker 5: I will still do this. I would still put my
Speaker 5: voice out there. I would still write songs, I would
Speaker 5: still do videos. I will still do it. You know,
Speaker 5: I'll still go to auditions. If I knew it was
Speaker 5: on the way. Me and my best friend will talking
Speaker 5: about this all the time because we were both going
Speaker 5: through it at the same time.
Speaker 2: We actually met on set.
Speaker 5: Me and my best friend, we've been on the Disney
Speaker 5: Channel show when we were like fourteen. So who's your
Speaker 5: best friend, Jalen. Her name is Jayleen Barry. She's an
Speaker 5: amazing actress. To check her out period.
Speaker 2: She's on a lot of shows and she does her
Speaker 2: big one. Oh, I know, that's pretty best friend. I
Speaker 2: would never do my best friend like that because she
Speaker 2: a clown. Are we getting the season four? A bella
Speaker 2: or you can't talk about that? I can talk about it.
Speaker 5: We're doing the season four. Actually, while I'm on tour,
Speaker 5: I'll be filming some of it. I'm gonna come back
Speaker 5: to do my episodes, but it'll be the fourth and
Speaker 5: final season. But I think it's good that we know
Speaker 5: it'll be the final season, so we can do everything
Speaker 5: with like the intention of like, okay, let's put a
Speaker 5: bowl on it.
Speaker 2: And I'm really excited.
Speaker 5: I think we've done something great that we you know,
Speaker 5: it's a blessing to keep people's attention for more than
Speaker 5: a one season, more than one episode.
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of what.
Speaker 5: We've done, and I hope it inspires more black TV
Speaker 5: shows you know that represent us and show networks like
Speaker 5: this is profitable.
Speaker 2: Keep it up. I'm happy for us.
Speaker 1: Are you happy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, I am happy. You got to make sure
Speaker 2: one last time.
Speaker 1: Are you happy?
Speaker 5: First of all, I know you have good intentions, so
Speaker 5: I'm not even always at all anything you've asked me.
Speaker 5: You've seen a lot, you know a lot, and I
Speaker 5: appreciate you, know, you speaking up and saying these things,
Speaker 5: So I'm not mad at them, but I am.
Speaker 2: I'm very happy.
Speaker 5: I am impersonal in business, It'll all be what it
Speaker 5: needs to be. That's what I've learned. I was doing
Speaker 5: all that stressing for years trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: it was going to happen.
Speaker 2: Waste of time. It happened in a way I could
Speaker 2: have never even planned. So I have learned. And I
Speaker 2: told God, I was like, I'm never gonna do you
Speaker 2: like that again. I'm so sorry because I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be talking to him like like my friend, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what what was that? Because you know it?
Speaker 5: And I don't do nothing crazy, so what's going on?
Speaker 5: But yeah, everything happens the way it needs to. So
Speaker 5: to me, I'm like, it's above me quite literally.
Speaker 3: That evil man that used to date that was trying
Speaker 3: to remember the guy you talked about in the video
Speaker 3: that was financing the videos and then stopped him. Mel,
Speaker 3: has he ever tried to reach back out to you, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm so sorry I was I was wrong,
Speaker 3: like since you talked to my man.
Speaker 2: Not on my pology stuff, but really he'd be emailing
Speaker 2: my mama.
Speaker 3: And didn't even apologize. Let me tell you, this man
Speaker 3: tried to ruin my girl. I don't like ugly because
Speaker 3: look at you now that taste video is cinema.
Speaker 2: And he's mad. My buddy emailed that video.
Speaker 3: So he was helping her and that time when she
Speaker 3: was building everything back up and he was financing the videos,
Speaker 3: and then he got upset because men are just men
Speaker 3: and there wasn't gonna help her no more and try
Speaker 3: to ruin her because of that.
Speaker 2: It was basically it was like a toxic little relationship
Speaker 2: where like I do this for you, you do this
Speaker 2: for me. If you don't do that, then I don't
Speaker 2: do that. It was like.
Speaker 5: Very much, yeah, very much, but I mean at the time,
Speaker 5: I was like twenty, I didn't know what was going
Speaker 5: on at all and in life, you know, so but yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that was a really important lesson because I
Speaker 5: was like, I'll never let somebody have that much power
Speaker 5: over me, and it's just too much power to give
Speaker 5: the one person.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm literally like.
Speaker 5: Imagine me going from like literally homeschool doing Disney stuff
Speaker 5: to like actually living at all.
Speaker 2: Like it was like what I was.
Speaker 5: So I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful that nobody was
Speaker 5: watching me because I was I was out.
Speaker 4: But it takes things like that for you to get
Speaker 4: to places like this though, because I was about to
Speaker 4: ask you, like, do you regret that? But it's like
Speaker 4: you can't because that was a step in the journey,
Speaker 4: you know, for you to get where you're at now,
Speaker 4: or you get where you are now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, is your mother emailing back because
Speaker 2: please love yourself? Yes, but no, I'm not bad at all.
Speaker 5: Actually that led to me meeting my therapist, who I love,
Speaker 5: I love, I love I love something like everything everything.
Speaker 1: Works out love that having a great therapist is important, Yes,
Speaker 1: Coco Jones, why not? More is available everywhere you get
Speaker 1: your music. Now do you want people to buy it?
Speaker 1: Screaming I don't even know how to.
Speaker 2: I want people to buy you. I'm sorry, but if
Speaker 2: you go to you need to buy that because look
Speaker 2: the album equivalent. You know what you know, Just buy it.
Speaker 2: I love a stream. Go ahead and stream if you're
Speaker 2: going to stream. But if you want to do anything by.
Speaker 4: You, much continued success, Coco, Thank you, I appreciate you
Speaker 4: can get the tickets for that tour on May six,
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 1: What do you get to the website?
Speaker 2: You can go on the real Coco Jones dot com
Speaker 2: and get my ticket.
Speaker 1: All right, this Coco Jones, The Breakfast Club. Wake that
Speaker 1: ass up here in the morning. The Breakfast Club