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Speaker 1: This is Curry, Are we super Star? Matt Teeth and everyone.

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Speaker 1: In a nutshell. Last week, we did a Patreon we

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Speaker 2: There was more drinking than thinking. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Chad proceeded to drink while he had two more podcasts

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Speaker 1: That is terrible. You should be ashamed of. I'm Matt.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I feel bad because we were Matt

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Speaker 1: Run into She very key. I believe you were with

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Speaker 1: I love it, And did you want to get into

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Speaker 2: I've wanted to be a wrestler since I was six

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Speaker 2: Ever since, my parents had no they did not get

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm walking inside right now to quit.

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Speaker 1: And this was all in my mind that because I

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Speaker 1: I said, I can't do this anymore now. If you

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Speaker 1: So it must be that New England blood and it must.

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Speaker 2: It must be because like I, honestly, you know, I

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Speaker 2: very like, uh, do you want to do that? Why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you huh who ended up training you when you

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Speaker 2: And another and like, I didn't know what I was

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Speaker 2: Doudle school. What is this going to be like, is

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Speaker 2: So he was great. He was great to me. And

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Speaker 2: But it seems like he's doing good. He's got a

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Speaker 2: It's weird because I feel like a lot of things

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Speaker 2: think more because New England had there was so many places,

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Speaker 2: And there's so many good guys that came from that area,

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Speaker 2: And I was just going to do Ring Crew one

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Speaker 1: I watch the most important thing, always bring your gear

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course, the next thing I know, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I have no I'm so green, I have

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Speaker 2: And like, those pitches will be iconic for me forever

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Speaker 2: Mike Bennett, and as they were they had been in

437
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 2: the business a little bit longer, so as they were

438
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: kind of going to other places, I would just really

439
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: tag along and be like, hey, I know, if you

440
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: need anyone here, I am uh And I would do

441
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: that at a Ring of Honor, And it was just one

442
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: of those things where the same situation after a certain

443
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 2: amount of time, if you're that kid that's always around

444
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: helping out and it's just there and has their gear,

445
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: there's going to be a time where they need to

446
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: fill up position. And the same thing happened with Ring

447
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 2: of Honor. And I always kind of told myself, you know,

448
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: these opportunities don't come every day, so like, if you

449
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: have the chance to do it and get in front

450
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: of people, yet you have to come ready to impress.

451
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: So I did a bunch of darks for for Ring

452
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: of Honor for a while, really almost for like a

453
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: year and a half two years, and then finally, you know,

454
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: one day, Jim Cornett came up to me and was like,

455
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: Matt Tavian, I always thought you were a puppy with

456
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: big pause. It's time for you to grow into those

457
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: big paus. I think we want to sign you to

458
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: a contract. I was like, I don't know what any

459
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: of that what you just said, besides you to a contract,

460
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: I'm all for it.

461
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means. But let's go.

462
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: So what year is this.

463
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Now, Jim Cornett, no one here, Oh, this is twenty twelve.

464
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: So like I signed, h you know, January one, twenty

465
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: thirteen with Ring of Honor, And it was like it

466
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: was crazy. There was so much of us that signed

467
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: at the same as that time, me Adam Page, Sallas

468
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: Young and we're still at Ring of Honor. Ah, we

469
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: all signed on the same day, q T. Marshall, and

470
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: it was just kind of like a new class had

471
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: come in and we were like, and I look back

472
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: at it now. I just was at Jay Lethos school

473
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: last night and he's got all these old DVDs a

474
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor, and I'm pulling them out and reading

475
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: them and I'm like, man, this is like year one

476
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: for me, and I have no business being on this

477
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: show with any of these all the you know, it's

478
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: like Kevin Owens and Claudio and and you know, Chris Heiro.

479
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: It's like all these guys that are so good. I

480
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: was like, I had no business being on that show

481
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: at that time, but I'm glad I was able to

482
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: stick it out and stick around for so long.

483
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: See the thing with you and and I'm this the

484
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: first time we're actually meeting, but you're you're humble, which

485
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: is so nice to see. It's it's refreshing.

486
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: Because a lot of ruin my gimmick, your own gimmick.

487
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: By the way you're handling yourself. But he's very attractive

488
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: to see because there's a lot of guys who come

489
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: in and think that they're the shit right away and

490
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: they should be, you know, on top right away, and

491
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: they don't want to pay dues and you know, or

492
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: they come they come from a you know, they were

493
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: on TV as an actor or they did this or

494
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: they did that, and they think they're entitled and right

495
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: away they should be in a main event spot. So

496
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: you sound like you came in the correct way. You

497
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: had your mouth shut, listened, you had your gear bag,

498
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: you're ready to do. So it's nice to hear.

499
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'd be plenty of people that say I

500
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: had my mouth open, because you know, I'm sure I

501
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: ruffled a plenty of feathers along the way. But I agree,

502
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: I think that that's one of the most important things.

503
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: And luckily as things started evolving in the New England

504
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: wrestling scene, you know, there was an opening for kind

505
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: of like a new school to pop up with a

506
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: promotion up there called the XWA. So me and Mike

507
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: Bennett started helping train at the school and that was

508
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: one of the biggest things that we would tell people, like,

509
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: you're not entitled to anything in wrestling, you know. I

510
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: and not to name drop, but I can remember Sean

511
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Michaels saying to like a group of us one time,

512
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: like wrestling will make zero sense. It makes no sense,

513
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: So stop trying to make sense of it because you'll

514
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: drive yourself crazy. All you have to do is continue

515
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: to try to do what you're doing and hopefully something breaks.

516
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: And you know, I can't tell you how many guys

517
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: come in, especially guys that and it's I understand it.

518
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: Guys that come from athletic backgrounds, or come from MMA

519
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: or some shoe fighting. They'll come in thinking like I

520
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: can beat everyone's ass here, Why am I not the champion? Eat? Like,

521
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't work like that. There's so much more than

522
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: just the competition that comes in the ring that you know,

523
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: it's nice to kind of pass those lessons down. And

524
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: I have to really credit like guys like Mike Bennett

525
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: who were always super humble and that they were, you know,

526
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: bringing me along to places, and I was kind of

527
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: seeing how humble they were and how people will respond

528
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: to it. And it's like, Okay, I know nothing about wrestling,

529
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: but I know that if you're you know, you know,

530
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Tony tough Nuts over here saying that you should be

531
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: champed and like you're too good to set up the chairs,

532
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: you're not going to get very far, right.

533
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is funny. So I used to go

534
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: to all those ROH shows, you know, back in your

535
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 3: early days when you were just you know, like you said,

536
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: in the dark matches and you could see, you know,

537
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: as you worked your way up the card. But what

538
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: was interesting about that is exactly what you're saying is

539
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: you kind of saw rowhs would always fill the gaps

540
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 3: with whoever left, they would be that next guy up

541
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: and anybody who was in those early matches, they were

542
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: there for a reason. And to see where you are now.

543
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 3: It's fascinating because I was there at the beginning at

544
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: those shows, and you see those guys that you just

545
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: mentioned as everybody kind of moved up. You see the

546
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: guys who started the bottom move up with them, so

547
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 3: they So how much did you really like kind of

548
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: take stock in the spots that you were given at

549
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: that point scene, how everybody in r wh kind of

550
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: progressed on as they went along.

551
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and you're one hundred percent right. It's fill

552
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: to this day. You can see all the guys that

553
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: are up, you know on ROH started down here underneath

554
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: you in dark matches and stuff like that. I personally

555
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: was picking up on the same thing that you're talking about, was, Okay,

556
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: they're putting you in these spots for a reason because

557
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: they want to see if you can go, if you

558
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: can move up the ladder here. And there's one match

559
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: in particular that really I kind of owe my whole

560
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: career on. Mike Mondo was down. He was there at

561
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor at the time, and he kind of

562
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: felt like he was a little bit stagnant that he

563
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: needed to do something, and they put us in a

564
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: match where I really was just to get Mike Mondo

565
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: over and Mike was like, listen, both of us need

566
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: to really kind of do something today to get on

567
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: everyone's radar. And again I'm still like, you know, like

568
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: four years in, like show me whatever you think about,

569
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: and he kind of came up with something that had

570
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: like we're in Baltimore and I'll never forget, like I've

571
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: never had anyone chant my name or anything like that,

572
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: and there's people are chanting Tavin. I'm like, oh my god.

573
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: We had a six minute match that literally when I

574
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: walked out, I was grabbed by the Ring of honor

575
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: guys and said like, okay, we're going to do something

576
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: year and xyz down the line. And it was really

577
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: just because Mike Mondo saw something in me and said

578
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: like I can do something with this that not only

579
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: is going to get myself over, but we'll get him

580
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: over as well. And I couldn't be any more gracious

581
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: towards him for that night because there's who knows what

582
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: would happen to me if if that match never happens.

583
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: But without a doubt, the reason why I've been in

584
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor for the last eight years is because

585
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: of that one match underneath going with Mike Mondo, and I.

586
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: Think I was there for that, to be honest with you,

587
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: Itered No, it triggered something and I just again, I

588
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: remember you would see him on the cart in those

589
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: early spots and you saw obviously he had something. And

590
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: anybody that they put that emphasis on you had to

591
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: put stock in as a fan because they had their

592
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 3: eye on him. So whether they were telling you or not,

593
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: and they were no selling you, you know, behind the scenes,

594
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: you could just see from the product itself who was

595
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: going to be the next minted guys of r WAH.

596
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: And that was always something that I love to watch

597
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: about it, you know when r.

598
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Waits really was.

599
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still, you know, the great presence they have,

600
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: but back then it was like if it's a guy,

601
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: roh guy, you got to keep your eye on them.

602
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: That's ruere.

603
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I have to have those same

604
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: conversations with like younger guys today that are just getting

605
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: into the Ring of Honor. They're like, oh my god,

606
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like, there's a

607
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: reason why you're in this spot, you know what I mean,

608
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: they see something in you in the future. They're just

609
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: it's a slow build, you know what I mean. It's

610
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: and and I think I'm you know, I don't want

611
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: to say I'm humble, but I think I come off

612
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: as humble because I went up that slow build and

613
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I could. I felt like that was the way to

614
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: go as a wrestling fan in general. You know, I've

615
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: been a wrestling fan, like I said, since I was

616
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: six five, six years old, the people that worked their

617
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: way up. You know, I grew up a six year

618
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: old in love with Brett Hard thinking he's the coolest

619
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: guy ever. And to see him go from like the

620
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: tag titles he hits to contact the title to when

621
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: finally he was wrestled for the world title, it felt like,

622
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: that's my guy. Here's the beginning. I made this happen

623
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: so like I kind of always felt the same thing

624
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: as like, as as the wrestler that I want to

625
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: be in my career, I always wanted to be that

626
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: guy that worked his way up, and you know, luckily

627
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: I was able to do that and Ring of Honor.

628
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: There was some speed bumps along the way, some setbacks,

629
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: but always got kind of back in the in the

630
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: into the position I wanted to and and you know,

631
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: I really always had in mind from that first day

632
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: that eventually I wanted to be the Ring of Honor

633
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: World Champion.

634
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think everybody who gets into wrestling has that

635
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: dream world champ.

636
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah right. I've had so many homemade belts or you know,

637
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: at the little plastic belts and stuff like that that

638
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: I was like, here, here I am in Madison Square guarded,

639
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm the champion, and for like one day for that

640
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: to finally come true. It's still you know, I talk

641
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: about it a lot in interviews, but it doesn't feel

642
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: real to me at the same time, you know what

643
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like it happened and all that stuff. But

644
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 2: at the same time, it feels like almost like I

645
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: watched a movie that I happened to the end.

646
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: You know.

647
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: It's it's I almost remember it more through the eyes

648
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: of other people than I do.

649
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally understand. I look back, because you know, I've

650
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: been kind of semi retired. I do little things here

651
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: and there, but I look back and I say, I

652
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: don't know how to hell, I did ninety percent of

653
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: the stuff that I did, and it's like it's like

654
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: a dream to me, It's like that really happened, because

655
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: like at this stage, I'm gonna be fifty years old.

656
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: I would never in a million years do anything like

657
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: that at this stage in my life. But back then,

658
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, you're invincible. You're in your twenties and thirties

659
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: and you're above the law and no one can touch you,

660
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's surreal.

661
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: Fifty.

662
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I'll be fifty in February.

663
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell anyone that you look for

664
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: your because like you, I have fifty.

665
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

666
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: That caught me off, Duard, Oh well.

667
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well. Now, remember when we the boot shot,

668
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I was probably like twenty five.

669
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and that just makes me think like

670
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: the years ago and by on my end too. So

671
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be like, no, none of us, we're

672
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: still young. We're very worry about it.

673
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: You're fine. I asked this question to a lot of people.

674
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I already know the answer, but I want to hear

675
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: you say it. Do you prefer heal or babyface heal?

676
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Of course.

677
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so much fun and like I've

678
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: always kind of I don't know, I always had this

679
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: weird relationship with the Ring of Honor fans. I'm very

680
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: much baby face with the female fans, but like the

681
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: male fans of all hated me no matter what. So

682
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: like to be able to like tell them exactly how

683
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: I felt for a long time. Oh that was good stuff.

684
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Why are we not healing the women, Matt? What is

685
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: Why are we being a baby face to the ladies.

686
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I would try to be a

687
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: heel to everyone. It just seems like they loved it,

688
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: so you know what I mean, Like, I don't know

689
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: how to make them hate me. And at one point,

690
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: no matter what I said, it would get a female

691
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: cheer and a male hard male booth.

692
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me, if you pick a

693
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: lady out of the front row and you call her

694
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: every name in the book, and you tell her she's

695
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: so ugly and this, that and the other thing, you're

696
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: going to get cheered.

697
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: I might actually get cheered for that from the from

698
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 5: the male guy. The guys that if I went and

699
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 5: buried one girl, the other girls in the crowd would

700
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: be like, yep, that's right, because I don't know.

701
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: Girls aren't loyal to one another. Let's be honest, that's true.

702
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: We can roll over with the woman if I buried

703
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: one chick in particular.

704
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Well, you know. And and for merch I'm

705
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: sure the ladies like to show off the merchandise as well.

706
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I have a lot of purple merchandise,

707
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 2: which it's a lot better on women than it does men,

708
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: it seems.

709
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Well. I am so excited for you. What's coming up

710
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: for you in r oh now.

711
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're finally back back at it. You know, we

712
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: we've Sinclair Broadcasting. I feel that it's such a good

713
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: job during the pandemic just making sure they you know, dotted,

714
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: all their eyes crossed, all their t's, made sure that

715
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: everyone at Ring of Honor not only was financially okay

716
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: because they they didn't miss a beat, which is kind

717
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: of crazy. That okay, And like, and this is something

718
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: that you know, a lot of people don't know. And

719
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: I try to get out there just because I feel

720
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: like Ring of Honor doesn't get the credit for it.

721
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: But there was stuff right before the pandemic hit, like

722
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: a women's tournament in April and these shows in March,

723
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: the past first Present show in March where they were

724
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: bringing in a lot of people that weren't weren't under

725
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor contracts, that were just coming in for

726
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: one shots and stuff. All that stuff had to be

727
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: canceled because of the pandemic. But Sinclair and Ring of

728
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: Honor paid every single person that was booked for any

729
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: single one of those shows, not even if you weren't

730
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: under contract anything, if you have been contacted by Ring

731
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: of Honor and they had told you they were going

732
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: to book you, they made good on their word for

733
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: every single person.

734
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: That is a rarity in this vale.

735
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: And and you know, I've been in the wrestling business

736
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: long enough at this point is to know how rare

737
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: that is. And it's just it's crazy to see it,

738
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: to see it done from from Sinclair. We're like no

739
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: questions asked, almost like it was just not even a nope,

740
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna taken care of And uh now we're we're

741
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: you know, we're seeing the light at the end of

742
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: the tunnel. We're finally having fans back in the building.

743
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: July eleventh on pay per view in Baltimore. So for

744
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: me personally, it's it's been this weird time where the

745
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: fans are everything you know for wrestlers, and it's it's

746
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: really it's been so different. As much as I've loved

747
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: the products that Ring of Honor has been putting out,

748
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: without the fans, it's just not the same, you know

749
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: what I mean. You hit that Matt and you don't

750
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: hear a response, and it's like, oh, oh, do I

751
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: even want to get up at this point, especially.

752
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: As a heel, you're drawing your energy from the crowd.

753
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: Well, so that was the other thing. So during the pandemic,

754
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: I've had two surgeries, came back from injury, reunited with

755
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: my tag partner who I haven't wrestled with in five years,

756
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: turned babyface now the first time, and for all of this,

757
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: I'll be in front of a crowd for the first time.

758
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: So it's like, my god, there's been you know, there's

759
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 2: been some I don't want to say missed opportunities because

760
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: like they were, they were still came off really well.

761
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: But I just could only imagine what my return would

762
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: have been. That would have been like in front of

763
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: a crowd, what me and Mike Bennett reuniting after all

764
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: this time would have been like crowd And so like

765
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: now it kind of feels like We're gonna get in

766
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: front of that crowd. I want to show you everything

767
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: that we've been doing this last couple of months. So

768
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm just so excited to kind of be back to

769
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: normal life. And it seems like July July eleventh, know

770
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: that all starts, and then we'll be back in the

771
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: ECW Arena for two nights in August as well, uh

772
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: twentieth and twenty first. And you know that Philly crowd

773
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: if you've missed the if you've missed fans, that Philly

774
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: crowd will really give you a shot of life in

775
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: the arm one way or the other. You know, the

776
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: usually the biggest fans on that team, and so I'm

777
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: sure I'll get a lot of booze, but at the

778
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: same time, it will be like just hearing anything at

779
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: this point exactly exactly.

780
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you have a lot on your

781
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: plate and I'm very, very excited for you again, everybody.

782
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: June eleventh, r oh, pay per view, I'm sorry July eleventh, Yeah,

783
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: today's what the twenty four July eleventh?

784
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: What are you?

785
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: What are you streaming on for this pay per view?

786
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: What's we're on regular pay per view? On all your

787
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: cable providers. But you know, the smartest thing to do

788
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: is to sign up for Honor Club. It's only ten

789
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: bucks a month. You get the pay reviews, you get

790
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: the TV, you get all the house shows and stuff

791
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: like that.

792
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: So can they got r o H dot com and

793
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: the Honor Club.

794
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: Yep, r o H Wrestling dot com. You can find

795
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: the Honor Club and that way you don't you don't

796
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: miss the ship. And it's a little tough for us

797
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: because we don't have normal house shows. Every single thing

798
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: goes up on the Honor Club, so you can't take

799
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: a night off. But at the same time, it keeps

800
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: us going one hundred and tent percent.

801
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: All right, well that's exciting. July eleventh, all right, we're

802
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna tune into that. And where can people

803
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: find you if they want to know more about Matt Tavan?

804
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: So if you can spell Tavan, which it seems very easy,

805
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: but I've had people screw this up so much over

806
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: the years.

807
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: It's not Tavn.

808
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: It's Tavin, Tavern, not Tavern, not Taven. I don't know.

809
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: People screw it up anyway. Right the first time, it's

810
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Rome's a raven and Maven and you know all that

811
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: got tan right, So if you can spell Tavan a

812
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: V and I'm on all social media platforms, Matt Tavan

813
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: on Facebook, on Twitter, be Matt Tavan on Instagram. Because

814
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: some Melvin tried to take Matt Tavan from me and

815
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: then hold it hostage, I said, screw that. Be Matt Tavan, buddy.

816
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: So I hope you're good with that handle. You know,

817
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: Matt Taven up for wrestling tease. Like I said, if

818
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: you can spell Tavan, you can.

819
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: You can find me, all right, do it simple Google

820
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: search and he's.

821
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: Up.

822
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we are. We'll be back in Disney the

823
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: end of January February, so maybe I'll please we could

824
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: go on a safe ride together. I don't do those

825
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: big roller coaches. Yeah, no, we'll go. Maybe we'll go

826
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: Winnie the Pooh or something. That'll be. But it was

827
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: a delight to finally sit down and chat with you.

828
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: I wish you nothing but success. And if you ever

829
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: could find the old picture, we'll take a new one

830
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: and we could do a side by side and it'll

831
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: be hilarious and we'll show your mother and she'll love it.

832
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 2: My mom would be she'll be like something's just never

833
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: changed with you. Huh. But I literally have to I

834
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: hold myself. I have to find this picture just to

835
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: recreate it. So I'm going to hold you to that.

836
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: I'm going to find it. We're going to redo this.

837
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: My husband is the coolest man on the planet. He's

838
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: just like he doesn't care.

839
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, you're literally like there's a table between us,

840
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: so there's plenty of social distance between us, so we

841
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: can It's it's more of like I'm leaning like a

842
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: little kid and you're leaning forward, and it's just magic happened.

843
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: I love it. I can't wait to do it again.

844
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: Perfect well, honey's pleasure with everything. Can't wait to see

845
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: you on the July eleventh. And we'll keep in touch

846
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: for sure.

847
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you guys so much for having me. Hopefully

848
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: we'll talk soon and hopefully i'll see him.

849
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: Disney sounds good. Special look to you. Damn Matt, take care.

850
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: I love that.

851
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: And there he goes, here's where the missed opportunity was.

852
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: That's where he should have said, And that's the night

853
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to become a pro wrestler. Oh, the blood,

854
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: the picture, the whole, perfect recipe to become a wrestler.

855
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

856
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember if he said where the signing was,

857
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: but it was probably had a mall. We probably had

858
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: sunglasses on and indoors because we were obnoxious like that

859
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: back then, which made the.

860
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: Sense of those pictures popping up too. I love that.

861
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: I know, it's so funny. I saw another one recently.

862
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Somebody put one up and I was just like, there's

863
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: another one. Where where are they? I was in a

864
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: video store the tapes behind me.

865
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

866
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: Personally most okay, very good, but yeah, he seems like

867
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: a hell of a nice guy. So yeah, hopefully, uh,

868
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Speaker 1: you know, bigger and better things for him. And it

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Speaker 1: fifty five. That's an extra thirty percent in a talent's pocket.

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