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Speaker 1: we're doing this from Los Angeles with Lindsay Sterling, who
Speaker 1: I think we should start with how we met first,
Speaker 1: because which as you came on the radio show, right,
Speaker 1: we didn't know each other. That was that like three
Speaker 1: years ago. It was four for like four years and
Speaker 1: two months in fourteen days, but I'm not counting. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we were doing the c MT Awards and we
Speaker 1: got paired together. We're going to announce the winner of
Speaker 1: some categories. You remember it at all? I do well.
Speaker 1: I remember going on your show first right that morning, yeah,
Speaker 1: the morning, good morning of and then it was like
Speaker 1: we did a interview. I played a little literally on
Speaker 1: the violin, and then that night right we went and
Speaker 1: presented together, and I do remember you went off script
Speaker 1: because I was super nervous to read the tell a prompter.
Speaker 1: I don't like, I have dyslexia and so I don't
Speaker 1: read super well. So I was so nervous. And then
Speaker 1: you went off script, and I'm like, when do I
Speaker 1: come in window? Oh, No. I got in trouble for
Speaker 1: that too, because you're really, when you're doing live television
Speaker 1: not supposed to go off script. Absolutely not. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I wrote a joke right before we went out that
Speaker 1: I thought was so funny that America did not tell me.
Speaker 1: I didn't, but I didn't really know you either, And
Speaker 1: if I told you, I thought maybe you would tell
Speaker 1: on me to one of the producers, like run Side Station,
Speaker 1: just to tell a joke, maybe because you've been like, hey,
Speaker 1: Bobby's doing something, I'm not quite comfortable, and so then
Speaker 1: they would have cut. It was just a strategic Okay,
Speaker 1: I gave it to you. That was fine. We we
Speaker 1: handled it beautifully. No one would Ann. I don't remember
Speaker 1: the joke. I don't remember anything about the actual anything.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to you afterward and going out. She's
Speaker 1: really nice, and she was really because you played the
Speaker 1: show that morning and then you were just kind of
Speaker 1: gone for a while. Then you disappeared pixied away. But
Speaker 1: we had talked a little bit online. But then when
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars came up, I was like, hey, lindsay,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this show? And you said,
Speaker 1: I said, a hundred percent, it's the most amazing experience.
Speaker 1: But I also told you it's not easy, and like,
Speaker 1: why it wasn't easy? And so did I help prepare
Speaker 1: you at all for how hard it is? I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could have been prepared. Really, yeah, but
Speaker 1: everything about you was I don't believe everything Lindsay says,
Speaker 1: not because you don't tell the truth. Because you worked
Speaker 1: so hard and you were doing five different things because
Speaker 1: you were touring, you were making music, you were doing
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. So they were going, well, you
Speaker 1: don't do as much as Lindsay. That is not true,
Speaker 1: but they didn't know at the time when they were
Speaker 1: so they were like, but so don't listen, it's not
Speaker 1: that hard. So they were telling me this was the
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars team. I'll see they always like
Speaker 1: talk it down, and I was like, don't. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: don't listen, you better clear your schedule if you're going
Speaker 1: to do that show, because it is so they told me,
Speaker 1: if you have four days and you can do four
Speaker 1: hours for four days a week, you'll be fine. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, Oh, I can do that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking myself, Wow, that's a lot, but I can
Speaker 1: do that, but now I can hear I have. I've
Speaker 1: done seven days a week for six weeks, probably six
Speaker 1: hours a day, at least six hours. Yeah, well they
Speaker 1: don't tell you. They tell you about the dance rehearsals,
Speaker 1: but then they don't tell you about all the camera
Speaker 1: interviews you have to do, which takes like two hours,
Speaker 1: and the costume fittings, and then the extra group numbers
Speaker 1: that you have to like it adds up to at
Speaker 1: least six hours a day. Well, then you ended up
Speaker 1: dancing in our trio group because when they said you
Speaker 1: have treo, I was like, oh, I have tovite Lindsay,
Speaker 1: because one, you're really good. You finished. Second you should
Speaker 1: have won, but you don't have to respond to that.
Speaker 1: I thought you should have won. And then you came
Speaker 1: and dance with us, and that was really nice of
Speaker 1: you because that you have to get yourself into a
Speaker 1: whole different mind frame and you're about to be on
Speaker 1: National TV. Two. You know what's funny is when you
Speaker 1: asked me to do it, I was like, oh, sure,
Speaker 1: that'll be fun. I didn't realize, like I almost forgot
Speaker 1: how intense the show was. It was only a year ago,
Speaker 1: but like being put back into the ballroom, getting back
Speaker 1: in my els, and just remembering the highs and the
Speaker 1: lows of it. Like I don't think I've ever had
Speaker 1: any experience in my life other than that show where
Speaker 1: I've felt so like joyous and happy and terrified at
Speaker 1: the same time. And that's the best way I can
Speaker 1: describe and exhausted like so because I'm so happy to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I'm so just scared. My guts jump
Speaker 1: every show. You, I mean, the part that gets you.
Speaker 1: The people at home don't hear. But when we stand
Speaker 1: on that dance floor, you see like this little video
Speaker 1: play of your week and kind of the first time
Speaker 1: you see it, and then all of a sudden, when
Speaker 1: it ends, you just hear this click click click, and
Speaker 1: your mind goes blank. It's like you forget everything and
Speaker 1: you just have to rely on adrenaline and muscle memory
Speaker 1: because the click track. Again, you don't hear it at home,
Speaker 1: but for us what it is, and we're us in
Speaker 1: a music some too, because we'll hear it in our
Speaker 1: ears and it will keep us on beat. Like the
Speaker 1: audience won't hear it on a stage show, but they
Speaker 1: played in the dance room because in case you have
Speaker 1: to be on the first note or know the first note. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it allows you to be right on It's like it
Speaker 1: that's the purpose of it. But I don't think I
Speaker 1: would have done Dancing with the Stars without you and
Speaker 1: your advice, because I'd have been like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not really a dancer. Would be fun, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can dedicate this much time to it.
Speaker 1: But I think I said that in the package to
Speaker 1: the thing they run. I was like, I I don't think
Speaker 1: I would have done without Lindsay telling me to do it.
Speaker 1: So thanks for all of this. Like, I actually have
Speaker 1: kind of calves now for the first time in my life,
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, I noticed. It's like when
Speaker 1: I was twelve, I started doing push ups and I
Speaker 1: started to notice like bulges in my arms. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not twelve, but I'm starting to see bulges in my
Speaker 1: calves and have a really bad bird legs. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a breakthrough for me. So you just have to
Speaker 1: do more jiving and waltzing in your life. Was that
Speaker 1: what you feel like? That's the hardest one yet for
Speaker 1: my calves. Really, they're all terrible. None of them have
Speaker 1: happened where I go. Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 1: Really well, you're killing it, making me proud. I hope
Speaker 1: you're not cursed me for suggesting that you do. No, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. It's one of the craziest experiences of
Speaker 1: my life, good and bad. That was just not why
Speaker 1: I actually brought you here. You have a Christmas record
Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about, but it will do one
Speaker 1: song first year and play some of this. This is
Speaker 1: Carol the Bells from your Christmas record, which is called
Speaker 1: what's the record called? It's called Warmer in the Winter.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, so on this that do
Speaker 1: do do? Is that your fingers plucking the strings? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me talk me through this. You're plugging the string.
Speaker 1: You play a violin like a kind of a guitar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you still hold it like a violin. Um, but they
Speaker 1: called pizzicato in the classical world, and you're basically plucking
Speaker 1: the strings as if similar to a guitar. Come on,
Speaker 1: could you play all this right now? If you could,
Speaker 1: you pull up your violin and play right now. If
Speaker 1: I had it in the studio, I could play. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying would you play it right now? But you
Speaker 1: could do. You know, do you know every song on
Speaker 1: your Christmas record? Absolutely, you could play it, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you're going you do a whole Christmas show. We do.
Speaker 1: We're actually in rehearsals right now for it, and it's
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. Like this was actually my favorite
Speaker 1: album I've probably ever done. I had so much fun
Speaker 1: just like getting in the Christmas spirit and putting my
Speaker 1: spin on Christmas. And then for me, writing music is
Speaker 1: so much about the experience of it, and that is
Speaker 1: the live show, Like that's kind of where the end
Speaker 1: game of where I'm writing the music for. And so
Speaker 1: when I'm putting together the show, it's like this is
Speaker 1: how the music was always meant to be heard, is
Speaker 1: in a visual storytelling way. And so like I'm in
Speaker 1: the you know, I'm in the studio right now with
Speaker 1: the dancers learning all the choreography, and it just makes
Speaker 1: me so excited to take this show on the road.
Speaker 1: We did it last year and now we're totally switching
Speaker 1: the show up and and doing it again this year.
Speaker 1: So you start playing the violin win when I was
Speaker 1: six years old. By the way, I'm gonna ask a
Speaker 1: lot of questions. I already know the answer too, because
Speaker 1: I read your book. So just even though you know,
Speaker 1: I know, all right, so you start playing it. Win
Speaker 1: six years old? Your parents play violin guitar, No, but
Speaker 1: they love classical music. And so when I was really little,
Speaker 1: they would play these old classical records, like on this
Speaker 1: scratchy record player, and then they used to take me
Speaker 1: and my sisters to classical concerts like Orchestras in the park,
Speaker 1: you know, and um. And I noticed that the violinists
Speaker 1: always got the solos, they always got the fast, melodic
Speaker 1: like exciting parts. And I was like, oh, that's a star,
Speaker 1: Like that's the one that gets all the attention. I
Speaker 1: want to play that wooden thing. And I started begging
Speaker 1: for violin lessons as like you know, when my when
Speaker 1: I was like five, and by the time I was six,
Speaker 1: they finally were like, A think she's serious. So you're
Speaker 1: six years old, you want violin lessons. That's a I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a mature instrument for a six year old. I
Speaker 1: think when I was six, I wanted a trash can lid,
Speaker 1: a stick, you know, I was wanted to beat something
Speaker 1: to time. But you want to violin, and do they
Speaker 1: give you they buy you a real violin because they're
Speaker 1: expensive at six years old. Um, we rented one. We
Speaker 1: rented this little and they're a lot less expensive when
Speaker 1: they're only like, you know, six inches long. They make
Speaker 1: kid violins like, yeah, they're they're adorable. They're like little
Speaker 1: tiny they look like toys, but it's because there's no
Speaker 1: way a child can play, like your arm won't even
Speaker 1: fit to reach the where your fingers are supposed to
Speaker 1: go on the board. Um. So yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: little tiny violin that we rented, and I rented um
Speaker 1: until I got to a full size violin. So what
Speaker 1: was the part about, I'm gonna go to the book
Speaker 1: where you had a cardboard violin for a while. Oh
Speaker 1: so that is just before they give a tiny six
Speaker 1: year old, like, you know, an expensive instrument for what
Speaker 1: it is. Um. They first gave me a serial box
Speaker 1: with could like a paper towel roll as the board
Speaker 1: where the fingerboard, and so that would teach me how
Speaker 1: to hold it. And once I proved that I could
Speaker 1: hold the cereal box and the paper towel roll, well, um,
Speaker 1: they upgraded me to a real violin. Was there a
Speaker 1: time where you said I'm kind of down with Violin definitely. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of times I almost quit. Um.
Speaker 1: One main time was when I was a teenager and
Speaker 1: I um told my mom I wanted to quit, and
Speaker 1: she kind of sat me down and she's like, I've
Speaker 1: paid for lessons for you since you were a kid,
Speaker 1: and that was not you know, that was a huge
Speaker 1: sacrifice for my parents. And she's like, just play until
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Just do that for me,
Speaker 1: and if you still want to quit, you know, in
Speaker 1: four months, you know, in the end of the year
Speaker 1: rolled around, she's like, you can quit. And you know,
Speaker 1: because we all go through like ups and downs and
Speaker 1: slumps and lows and things. And by the time the
Speaker 1: new year rolled around, I had kind of gotten through
Speaker 1: this this slump and I didn't want to quit anymore.
Speaker 1: When you were in high school, you were the what kid,
Speaker 1: the blank kid? I was. UM. I was kind of
Speaker 1: a kid that did every thing like I did sports,
Speaker 1: I was on I was in a video editing class,
Speaker 1: and I like was super nerdy about video production and
Speaker 1: editing videos. Um, I did orchestra, I did banned. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was little bits of everything is what I would call.
Speaker 1: Were you a good athlete. I was actually pretty decent,
Speaker 1: Like at soccer and cross country. It wasn't the I
Speaker 1: was never the best, but I was, you know, I could.
Speaker 1: I was on all the varsity teams. And were you
Speaker 1: the best musician in your band? Um? Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: At what age did you start to separate from people
Speaker 1: your peers? At what age did you start to go
Speaker 1: and not in any way of like I'm so good,
Speaker 1: but you've noticed a difference of Wow, I'm actually performing
Speaker 1: at a higher level than my peers that are pretty good, right. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I think since I started when I was six, most
Speaker 1: most people don't start the violin with private lessons when
Speaker 1: they're six, and so as soon as I went into school,
Speaker 1: I was always way ahead of the other kids in
Speaker 1: the orchestra. Um. However, that was like being the big
Speaker 1: fish in a small pond, you know, with your public
Speaker 1: school orchestra. I also did like these extracurricular orchestras where
Speaker 1: all the kids that started when they were six were
Speaker 1: in those orchestras, And that was the place where I
Speaker 1: was like, oh gosh, you know, my humility check of
Speaker 1: I'm actually very middle of the road here, And I
Speaker 1: think that is one of the reasons. I was about
Speaker 1: to go to college to to study music, and I
Speaker 1: even I was offered a scholarship, and I realized one
Speaker 1: that I didn't really love the violin anymore, and that
Speaker 1: was the second time I almost quit. But also I
Speaker 1: kind of got to the realization of I'm just going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, playing in the back of some
Speaker 1: orchestra for the rest of my life. And I kind
Speaker 1: of had to think about it of what can I
Speaker 1: do that's different so that I can do this in
Speaker 1: a way that at won that I love it and
Speaker 1: can rEFInd my passion, but also so that I can
Speaker 1: have a voice in this and I'm not just begging
Speaker 1: to be accepted as the back chair player for a
Speaker 1: public orchestra. UM. And that's when I started to write
Speaker 1: my own music and be creative with it. UM. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's I'm so glad that I wasn't just
Speaker 1: a little bit better, because if I've been just a
Speaker 1: little bit better, I would have been getting the solos
Speaker 1: and I would have been the first chairs of like
Speaker 1: the really good orchestras, and that's where I would still be.
Speaker 1: But thank heavens, I was just not quite good enough.
Speaker 1: So I had to think outside the box, and I
Speaker 1: had to get really creative with it. So you're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do something different, But what do you do? You
Speaker 1: know you want to dance, to play violin, or maybe
Speaker 1: you want to juggle. How did you kind of end
Speaker 1: up in doing what you do now, which you play
Speaker 1: electric violin and dance at the same time, which is
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. That is that accurate? You play electric violin?
Speaker 1: I do I play the What would your title if
Speaker 1: you had to give yourself a job title? I mean,
Speaker 1: I usually just say I'm an electronic violinist, you know,
Speaker 1: but you don't play the normal non electronic violin. That's
Speaker 1: the thing I do, but I don't know what to
Speaker 1: call myself. So when that usually quickly paints a picture
Speaker 1: for people of like, oh, she does the violin in
Speaker 1: a different way, because I do still play like leaku
Speaker 1: stick violent. All my recordings are done with an acoustic violin, um,
Speaker 1: but a lot of my shows are with electric violence,
Speaker 1: just because I can make them sparkle and they look
Speaker 1: really cool. How many violences do you have at your house?
Speaker 1: I probably have about seven violins in my house. Well
Speaker 1: that's how I thought you'd have, Like I know, everyone's
Speaker 1: always surprised. I'm like, I'm a moderation kind of a person,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I have like really nice violins
Speaker 1: like and also violence. If you get to like really
Speaker 1: nice violins, they're very expensive. And so like I have
Speaker 1: my one really nice violin, and then I have some
Speaker 1: you know, fully like I have two violins that are
Speaker 1: fully Swolvorskiki crystal hy even say Swolvorski crystal. So you know,
Speaker 1: I can't have a million of them if I want
Speaker 1: them all to be really special. Do they have violins
Speaker 1: from back in the like Beethoven days? Are they still around? It?
Speaker 1: All there? And that's why violins, a good one is
Speaker 1: so expensive, is because the wood gets better with age
Speaker 1: and sweetens, and so the best violins you can get
Speaker 1: are ones that are, you know, a hundred plus years old. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: have you ever played a hundred plus year old violin?
Speaker 1: Do you have one? That's what my mind is about
Speaker 1: a hundred years old. And you know that's why I'm
Speaker 1: like so careful with that thing, because you can't replace it,
Speaker 1: Like no violence sounds the same, and also it's it
Speaker 1: was it's a hundred years old. It had to wait
Speaker 1: till it was a hundred to be what it's worth.
Speaker 1: And that's why they're so valuable. Do you ever go
Speaker 1: in to a music store and you just go and
Speaker 1: you're just like looking around and you grab a violin
Speaker 1: and you kind of want to show off a little
Speaker 1: bit and you want to make people like look, Because
Speaker 1: that's what I would do if I had like some
Speaker 1: extreme talent, I would go into like if I was
Speaker 1: a great singer, I would go into a karaoke place
Speaker 1: and just wail and have no one know it was me,
Speaker 1: the great singer, but just be amazed that someone singing
Speaker 1: great was on the karaoke stage. Do you ever go
Speaker 1: into like that? Do they have a guitar They have
Speaker 1: a guitar Violence of car center they have those. They
Speaker 1: don't you ever going to violent center just grab a
Speaker 1: violin and not tell them that you're like super proficient
Speaker 1: at violin. You know, violin shops are very they're very different.
Speaker 1: They're not like a guitar center. They're like old houses
Speaker 1: where there's just violins lining the walls and they're all
Speaker 1: super old and like really cool and so but there's
Speaker 1: all I had to say. It was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a snobby community, so like I would think it
Speaker 1: was a snobby it's snobby community. So like walking into
Speaker 1: that kind of shop, you don't get mediocre players that
Speaker 1: walk into a shop like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Could I walk into one of those shops You're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm really interested. Can I see the one year all violin?
Speaker 1: Probably not. I wouldn't let me hold it. I mean
Speaker 1: probably not. No, if you've never played, you know, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, heck no, when I hear violin, I think
Speaker 1: are really rich people, because like to me, that's a
Speaker 1: did you grow up rich? No? Absolutely not. It was
Speaker 1: actually Hue. That's why it took my parents so long.
Speaker 1: You know, I begged when I was five years old
Speaker 1: for lessons, and it wasn't until I was six that
Speaker 1: they were like, I think, okay, you know most parents
Speaker 1: are like, our child wants to play the violin, like
Speaker 1: get him something, get him a violin. Um. But it
Speaker 1: was such a sacrifice, Like my parents really were struggling
Speaker 1: so much financially to make ends me. Like my mom
Speaker 1: talks about how we couldn't afford sour cream, you know,
Speaker 1: like every penny was accounted for and so it was
Speaker 1: a huge sacrifice to rent this violin and pay for lessons.
Speaker 1: And you know, my mom found a student, a college
Speaker 1: student that was willing to teach me every other week
Speaker 1: for only fifteen minutes, because that's all she could afford.
Speaker 1: But I think because of that, I knew it was
Speaker 1: a sacrifice. And I knew as a child that if
Speaker 1: I did not practice, the lessons were going to go away.
Speaker 1: They weren't. You know, it wasn't a casual thing, and
Speaker 1: my parents told me that, and um, so I think
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason that I was diligent with
Speaker 1: it as a child. When we were doing Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars and we just had a week, not even
Speaker 1: a week, four days, we were working together. We would
Speaker 1: train and this is all going to come back, but
Speaker 1: we were trained together. And then I would have to
Speaker 1: go to work. But people working on the set would
Speaker 1: text me and go, hey, Lindsey still here practicing, and
Speaker 1: she's by herself, by myself, and she's over in the
Speaker 1: corner and she hasn't left, and it's and I would
Speaker 1: be at the studio for two three hours and I
Speaker 1: would get a text like they said, Lindsay hasn't left,
Speaker 1: and we would do split practices where I'd practice all day,
Speaker 1: would do radio, and then I would go back in
Speaker 1: the evening and you would rejoin, but except you never
Speaker 1: stopped practicing. And what a lot of people would see
Speaker 1: in you on the surface is oh wow, she's so talented,
Speaker 1: like how great she It just must all come so easily.
Speaker 1: Myself included, if I'm being completely transparent, I thought, oh wow,
Speaker 1: it must be nice to just have that and this
Speaker 1: this innate ability to hear and be good at something. However,
Speaker 1: what I saw, and just the dancing thing, is that
Speaker 1: you work and harden a lot. Yes, So where does
Speaker 1: that work ethic come from? How was that instilled in you? What?
Speaker 1: What was it? You know? I I'm not quite sure where.
Speaker 1: My parents always really instilled in us, like a value
Speaker 1: of work. Since we were kids, we had to earn
Speaker 1: things if we wanted them, like I said, because my
Speaker 1: parents didn't have money to just like give us things.
Speaker 1: It was something where like I mean, I started my
Speaker 1: first business when I was like a kid, selling cookies,
Speaker 1: and or my my friend and I started doing a
Speaker 1: business where passed out business card. We were called the
Speaker 1: ready to work Girls, and we would offer to clean
Speaker 1: people's houses like when we were kids and we had
Speaker 1: business cards like as little children, and people thought it
Speaker 1: was so cute, But you know, that's how I earned
Speaker 1: money for anything I wanted, um, outside of just like
Speaker 1: your two outfits for school that year, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I think it from a very young age, I
Speaker 1: just had instilled in me that you know, life takes
Speaker 1: work and um. And I think that's what I attribute
Speaker 1: to like all my success is I'm honestly, I wasn't
Speaker 1: the most talented violinist. It's just that I've put in
Speaker 1: the hours. And same with Dancing with the Stars, like
Speaker 1: Mark and I were the last to leave the studio
Speaker 1: almost every single night. We put in the time. He
Speaker 1: worked with me relentlessly, and you know, because that was
Speaker 1: the first time I'd ever had dance training, and not
Speaker 1: only did I want to do well in the show,
Speaker 1: but I'd wanted to dance since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: You know. My parents actually took me to a violin
Speaker 1: lesson and a dance class because I asked for both
Speaker 1: when I was a child and they were like, you
Speaker 1: gotta choose one, like we can't afford both. And so
Speaker 1: when I was on Dancing with the Stars, it was
Speaker 1: the first time like something I wanted to learn my
Speaker 1: whole life. I was getting a chance to learn from
Speaker 1: one of the best ballroom teachers in the world. You know,
Speaker 1: for however much time I wanted to put in and
Speaker 1: I didn't take that for granted. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: as good as I could possibly be. Yeah, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: And that was a realization to me. Watching you work
Speaker 1: was that I was wrong. I judged wrong and unfairly
Speaker 1: because you're good. But I watched you work to be great,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was pretty cool, Like like really,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, that's cool. Like she
Speaker 1: she's very gritty. I think that's what I told me,
Speaker 1: You're very gritty. You grew up where Gilbert, Arizona. What's
Speaker 1: Gilbert Arizona About Gilbert Arizona. It changed so much since
Speaker 1: I grew up there. But when I, you know, I
Speaker 1: was a child, it was full of corn fields and
Speaker 1: cotton fields and dairy farms. And to this day, the
Speaker 1: smell of cowmaneure was like my childhood home. Your neighbors cows, Yes,
Speaker 1: my neighbors had cows. We had chickens and horses in
Speaker 1: my backyard, and you know, we gardened. We went picked corn,
Speaker 1: you know, in the cornfield, Like I was a little
Speaker 1: country bumpkind. We like to play in the ditch for fun.
Speaker 1: Like That's what I did as a kid, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade that childhood for anything like one. It taught
Speaker 1: me to be kind of gritty and like getting the
Speaker 1: mud and make things happen, you know. And uh. At
Speaker 1: the same time, though, um, it's crazy how much it's
Speaker 1: changed now. It's like a booming city. It's it's almost
Speaker 1: like I don't even recognize it when I go home.
Speaker 1: But it was a great way to be a kid.
Speaker 1: Your mom still in Gilbert, My mom is still there,
Speaker 1: same house. Yeah, do you have Is your bedroom still
Speaker 1: the same? You know? It's funny my bedroom is the
Speaker 1: only one that's still the same because my mom has
Speaker 1: kept our rooms until the kids getting married and then
Speaker 1: she'll like like she's like, I always want you to
Speaker 1: feel like you have a home until you, you know,
Speaker 1: have your own family and build your own home. But
Speaker 1: so my room is the only one left. Do you
Speaker 1: sleep in it when you go home? I do? And
Speaker 1: do you have posters up of John the Taylor Thomas?
Speaker 1: Those those did get taken down Okay, so you grew
Speaker 1: up in Gilbert, Arizona, and you go to college for
Speaker 1: a bit. Um I did. I went to by U
Speaker 1: and graduated by U, the whole thing. Yeah, you finished
Speaker 1: school and you think, what do you want? What are
Speaker 1: you gonna go do? What's the idea? Well, by the
Speaker 1: time I finished school, I had you know, I started
Speaker 1: out as a film major, studying film, wanting to be
Speaker 1: a director, and you know, I loved it, but I
Speaker 1: just didn't feel right. So I ended up switching degrees
Speaker 1: halfway through and becoming a recreational therapist is what I
Speaker 1: wanted to be. Wait, what is that? What is the
Speaker 1: recreational therapist? Oh, it's the best thing ever. I wanted
Speaker 1: to work with troubled teenagers and treatment centers, and you're
Speaker 1: the person that plans all of their activities. But like,
Speaker 1: for example, you would do maybe an art project, but
Speaker 1: you're getting the girls or the you know, the kids
Speaker 1: to express their emotions and their feelings through a painting,
Speaker 1: because sometimes these kids don't want to express it verb
Speaker 1: or they just can't. But it was amazing how much
Speaker 1: they would open up when you get them to do it,
Speaker 1: either artistically or get them outside on a horse, or
Speaker 1: get them rock climbing, and you know, comparing climbing a
Speaker 1: wall to like climbing over the challenges, it's like making
Speaker 1: it physical for them. So you want to do that.
Speaker 1: But you finished school with a degree and recreational so
Speaker 1: I could be a recreational therapist. But then you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I really don't want to do that either. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was my last year in school I realized I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's all I thought about was music. I
Speaker 1: had finally kind of discovered my voice, you know, I had,
Speaker 1: like I said, decided not to study music, but I
Speaker 1: didn't ever stop playing. I kept playing with bands or
Speaker 1: writing music and you know, trying out all these different styles.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what I wanted to be. I
Speaker 1: just knew I was excited about music and wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of reinvigorate my passion. And once I found like
Speaker 1: a sound that I loved, I was obsessed again, like
Speaker 1: the way I was when I was six years old
Speaker 1: and I first held that cereal box, like I was
Speaker 1: consume by it and in like a really cool way,
Speaker 1: the way that I hadn't felt in years. And so
Speaker 1: I was just basically trying to finish school because I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm the kind of person I was, like,
Speaker 1: I paid for my own college. I put myself through
Speaker 1: college while while working, and I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to not get this degree that I am so
Speaker 1: close to. So it's almost like I was walking two
Speaker 1: very different paths that we're getting farther and farther apart,
Speaker 1: as I was trying to start a music career but
Speaker 1: also trying to finish school and um. But so by
Speaker 1: the time I finished school, I had already started a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, and I had already like I was already
Speaker 1: planning my first or I think I was about to
Speaker 1: start planning my first ever tour. The YouTube thing is
Speaker 1: so interesting to me because like you're a real life
Speaker 1: like you thrived in new YouTube, yes, like when YouTube
Speaker 1: really was launching people into their desired area. Like you're
Speaker 1: one of those people who figured out YouTube early. Thank heavens,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you're in the right place at the
Speaker 1: right time. And thankfully I met um Devin Graham, who's
Speaker 1: a cinematographer who has a YouTube channel, and he saw
Speaker 1: what I was doing. He had seen I had posted
Speaker 1: one video on YouTube solely to get it to the
Speaker 1: Ellen show like. I posted it and then sent them
Speaker 1: a link. But the only way I knew how to
Speaker 1: get it to them was by putting it on this
Speaker 1: thing called YouTube. And that video went viral for lack
Speaker 1: of a better term. I have since taken it down.
Speaker 1: It's still survived. Someone else put it up, of course,
Speaker 1: as all things do on the internet. Um it's so bad.
Speaker 1: It's um me dancing to the black Eyed peas pump
Speaker 1: it while playing the violin. It was the first time
Speaker 1: I really was like, I mean, and the funny thing
Speaker 1: is is now people look at me and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a dancer. Now you know. I've I've taught myself to
Speaker 1: dance and after Dancing with the Stars, escalated myself quite
Speaker 1: a bit even further. But at the time I'd never
Speaker 1: tried to dance, so it was like it was like
Speaker 1: as if you were like, oh, go out there and
Speaker 1: play football, Lindsay, it's the same thing. I was a
Speaker 1: terrible dancer, but I just really this idea and I
Speaker 1: was like, if I could dance and play the violin,
Speaker 1: no one's doing that and it would be so cool. Um.
Speaker 1: So I posted this video where I played over the
Speaker 1: actual black Eyed piece pump at track like this little
Speaker 1: violent line I wrote, and I'm dancing my little heart
Speaker 1: out in my living room and it is so bad.
Speaker 1: See if you can find it, Mike this Google it's
Speaker 1: let see Lindsay Sterling pump. It would probably come up.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why I'm telling you this. It's
Speaker 1: it's hilarious because it's one of those things where it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: come along way and it went viral. What was viral
Speaker 1: back then? So that's the funny thing. Back then viral
Speaker 1: was it got about half a million views, which is
Speaker 1: a lot for the time, Like this was two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, I think when I put it up, and
Speaker 1: you know, that was a massive amount of views. I
Speaker 1: remember everyone, all my friends being like, what, you're like famous,
Speaker 1: You've got you know, half a million views on this video.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even understand yet that YouTube was like
Speaker 1: a thing that was like I didn't understand that you
Speaker 1: could have your own channel. I just thought, oh, I
Speaker 1: posted a video and like now what And so I
Speaker 1: didn't even touch it for a while until I realized, um, oh,
Speaker 1: this is where you can like I started to realize
Speaker 1: there were all these other people with platforms with fans
Speaker 1: that like subscribe to them and wanted to see more.
Speaker 1: And these people were celebrities by playing videos online. And
Speaker 1: at this time, I've been going to all these record
Speaker 1: labels trying to get people to believe in my stuff,
Speaker 1: trying to get people to like think that I was cool,
Speaker 1: and nobody saw the vision at all. And suddenly there
Speaker 1: was this world without gatekeepers, where you put it up
Speaker 1: and if people like it, they share it. And that's
Speaker 1: where my career was born. Is it called Lindsay hip
Speaker 1: hop violin? Oh? It probably? Is it a black and white?
Speaker 1: I think the sugar poem Faery song is playing. I
Speaker 1: think there's still the album's playing. This is in our
Speaker 1: studio we're working on okay. I think we'll probably have
Speaker 1: two roll in here on the computer. This is an
Speaker 1: our computer. Give us a break here, Lindsey startling. I'm
Speaker 1: judging so hard, so hard. So it's black and white.
Speaker 1: You look m M nineteen, Like, look at that outfit.
Speaker 1: You're in cut off shorts, but no, it's cut off sweats.
Speaker 1: It looks like tall black socks. Like my hair. Your
Speaker 1: hair's kind of cool. You was my peacock hairstyle. Let
Speaker 1: me hear this which one? Is this too bad? The
Speaker 1: folks at home can't see. They can make up Lindsay
Speaker 1: hip hop, Violin, Lessy Darling and you don't like this,
Speaker 1: it's terrible. I mean, does that not bad to you? Mike?
Speaker 1: Look pretty good to me, But they can't the dancing though,
Speaker 1: the dancing is it looks just looks like it's So
Speaker 1: that's better than what I do on National TV right now,
Speaker 1: if that says anything. So you put this up? And
Speaker 1: where are you shooting this? What room is this? This
Speaker 1: is my college apartment. My roommate was pressing record on
Speaker 1: the tripod for me, and yes, and that's the first one.
Speaker 1: And you took it down. You don't want to leave
Speaker 1: it up for the Smithsonian well partially actually the real
Speaker 1: I am all about like, hey, people should know, Like
Speaker 1: it's cool that people see where you came from, I think,
Speaker 1: But I took it down for copyright purposes. I used
Speaker 1: the actual Black Eyed Peas song, which now there used
Speaker 1: to be a huge gray area and YouTube where you're like,
Speaker 1: if I don't monetize it, it's okay, not okay anymore?
Speaker 1: What's up now on this guy's channel? Yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: not rack like he's not a YouTuber. He's like one
Speaker 1: point three million views, but that's like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a YouTube personality, like no one's
Speaker 1: watching his anyway. He maybe now out of comments say
Speaker 1: I love this, they should more should be like that
Speaker 1: comment on that thing. Let me read someone says, Lindsay's
Speaker 1: first video found out when I was in sixth grade,
Speaker 1: and I loved it so much. So cool to see
Speaker 1: she's so famous and producing such amazing work. Your fans
Speaker 1: are hardcore too, by the way, and they're all from
Speaker 1: all over the world, Like you tour all over the world.
Speaker 1: Just so cool. Do you ever go to like Outh
Speaker 1: America and tour like places like that? It's just different language,
Speaker 1: completely different culture, absolutely, like we do South America. We've
Speaker 1: gone to Eastern Europe and Russia and we've gotten to Asia.
Speaker 1: And what is it like to go to somewhere like
Speaker 1: Russia and you're playing music for people that you don't
Speaker 1: speak the same language. Yeah, and but you still speak
Speaker 1: the same language. And that's what's so cool about being
Speaker 1: a most you know, nine pcent of my stuff is instrumental,
Speaker 1: and so to be able to go to a place
Speaker 1: and be able to have no language barrier in the music.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool and I think that's why I've done
Speaker 1: so well on a global platform. Um. But also it's
Speaker 1: just insane to me, Like, I never traveled. I'll be
Speaker 1: you know, my family didn't have any money when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, so I like, I didn't really leave Arizona.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly, you know, I am in Europe on
Speaker 1: tour and doing shows. And it was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 1: That first tour in Europe. It was, you know, I
Speaker 1: did a little tour in the US and then I
Speaker 1: went straight to Europe and I just couldn't believe. I
Speaker 1: would show up to a venue in Paris or France
Speaker 1: or wherever, you know, wherever we were, people would be
Speaker 1: there and they'd be like chanting my name in their accent,
Speaker 1: you know, and say and I was like, this is insane.
Speaker 1: Was that the crowd from Ratatu the movie sound? What
Speaker 1: accent was that? That was? That's fresh? Lin say, so
Speaker 1: you go to these places and they know your music,
Speaker 1: but you don't speak the same language. What does a
Speaker 1: show like because you're playing people don't areart singing along? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my shows are very you know, and it depends on
Speaker 1: the type of room we're playing, but especially now, like
Speaker 1: they used to be much rowdier crowds because we'd play
Speaker 1: small clubs and everybody's intimate, and they would they would
Speaker 1: jump around and like around like kind of not like,
Speaker 1: I mean, my fans aren't that intense, you know so
Speaker 1: And also, but I realized the more I've you know,
Speaker 1: expanded as an artist, my crowds are so strangely diverse,
Speaker 1: like no one knows what to make of it. You
Speaker 1: have an older elderly couple that have always loved the
Speaker 1: violin that are there, and they're dressed up on nice
Speaker 1: You've got your guys in French coats that are metaled
Speaker 1: heads that think, oh she shreds, she's a shredder. You've
Speaker 1: got your gamers, You've got your your teenage girls, your
Speaker 1: little kids. Like it's the weirdest demographic. And so now
Speaker 1: I do mostly seated venues because I want everyone to
Speaker 1: be comfortable. I want the elderly couple to be able
Speaker 1: to sit and enjoy. I want kids to not have
Speaker 1: to like be holding you know, their parents holding them up.
Speaker 1: And so I play very you know, seeded venues, and
Speaker 1: my shows are very much people watch like they come
Speaker 1: to watch. They're not usually cheering or chanting, like of
Speaker 1: course they'll clap in between songs, but it's not like
Speaker 1: a rowdy yeah yeah, yeah crowd. It's a very like
Speaker 1: we're dancing. There's ballet in the show. There's like it's
Speaker 1: it's a theatrical performance. If people talk during your show
Speaker 1: to people go yes, I mean not if people are
Speaker 1: talking a little bit, but if people are like talking loud, yeah,
Speaker 1: the or like if some fans get really upset because
Speaker 1: they want to stand up in like dance and people
Speaker 1: are like sit down, sit down, you know, so I
Speaker 1: and I feel bad. But it's like a lot of
Speaker 1: the fans are there too, Like they're not there to party.
Speaker 1: Some of them they're there to sit and watch. It's
Speaker 1: like a rock and roll dance via listen. I haven't
Speaker 1: been That's why I'm asking these questions. I've never seen
Speaker 1: your show before, but I feel like, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so much energy. Oh, it's it's an energetic show. I mean, um,
Speaker 1: the girl, my my dancers, and I like we are
Speaker 1: probably drenched in sweat by the second song, like we are.
Speaker 1: There's full choreography, the band, it's loud, it's very loud.
Speaker 1: It's a rock show. But um, it's also like I
Speaker 1: like to think of it, I love theatricality. I love costumes,
Speaker 1: So there's all these costume changes. There's, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's everything from lyrical dance numbers to like elements of
Speaker 1: pop to ballet like point ballet, and so it's very diverse.
Speaker 1: It's always moving their storytelling that happens in it through
Speaker 1: the dancing and you know, and then through the visuals
Speaker 1: on the screens. I try to create these different worlds
Speaker 1: and it's very much a like I put a lot
Speaker 1: of energy into not only the creation of the show,
Speaker 1: but every single night on that stage, like we come
Speaker 1: off exhausted. Okay, so you build YouTube, you put a
Speaker 1: YouTube video up, it's on my screen in front of you.
Speaker 1: It all kind of stems from that video, like not
Speaker 1: all the work, but this the idea, this incarnation of
Speaker 1: Lindsay Sterling the performer. When could you pay your bills
Speaker 1: from getting YouTube streams? Um? I probably, Well, so this
Speaker 1: video was I think two thousand seven is when I
Speaker 1: put it up. And then honestly I took a huge
Speaker 1: like I just didn't know what YouTube was and what
Speaker 1: it could do. So it went viral, but I had
Speaker 1: no idea what that actually meant. By the way, ever,
Speaker 1: I never got on Ellen. Would be a thing for you,
Speaker 1: like to go on Ellen. That'd be a huge thing
Speaker 1: for me. It would be like the full one. It
Speaker 1: would be one of the full circal moments, and I
Speaker 1: love a good full stortle moment. But now I haven't
Speaker 1: been on Ellen yet, which is funny because it's kind
Speaker 1: of something that spurred the entire thing. So it's like someday,
Speaker 1: so I'll get tell um, you post on YouTube videos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I take a break and then um, I met
Speaker 1: this cinematographer guy Devin Graham, who basically was like, you
Speaker 1: would do really well on YouTube, and he taught a
Speaker 1: YouTube like seminar, like a one night thing at b
Speaker 1: y U where a bunch of filmmakers came and I
Speaker 1: I had been kind of discouraged at this point because
Speaker 1: I've been trying. I've been playing open mic nights and
Speaker 1: doing these like things called NAKA showcases, which are for
Speaker 1: like college shows, and flying around the country doing these
Speaker 1: very thankless gigs, playing in college cafeterias. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I just don't know how much longer I can do
Speaker 1: this because nothing was changing. It was just everything was
Speaker 1: the same. And then I went to this YouTube seminar
Speaker 1: where for two hours I sat there and learned, like
Speaker 1: he broke it down for you how you become a
Speaker 1: good YouTube channel and how you became a YouTuber and
Speaker 1: build fan bases. And I was, you know, when something
Speaker 1: just feels so right. It felt so right, and I knew.
Speaker 1: I even called my mom right after I left him,
Speaker 1: like I figured it out. I'm going to be a
Speaker 1: youtubert right, Yeah, she's gonna okay, that's really She was
Speaker 1: excited because I was excited. My mom is so supportive. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, but I, I like took notes feverishly and
Speaker 1: I just I just knew. And I feel like you
Speaker 1: got to trust that inner gut, like it'll tell you
Speaker 1: sometimes when it's time to throw in the towel and
Speaker 1: switch directions slightly, or when it's time too that's not
Speaker 1: a good avenue. But this time I knew that this
Speaker 1: was going to work, and so I tirelessly. I'm still
Speaker 1: going to school at this point, and I'm just tirelessly
Speaker 1: making all these YouTube videos and thank Heaven's I what
Speaker 1: did I do with my first two years? Of college.
Speaker 1: I went to film school, so I had all the
Speaker 1: know how of how to you know, well, I also
Speaker 1: had all these friends that could help me film the videos.
Speaker 1: I knew how to edit, I knew how to produce,
Speaker 1: I knew how to like do all of that, and
Speaker 1: so I could make these really beautiful videos for nothing,
Speaker 1: for free. And you know, at the time, I had
Speaker 1: no money. And then it was probably about six months
Speaker 1: after doing YouTube. It happened pretty fast that I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can quit my job and I can do this
Speaker 1: full time. So if you're dependent on uploading content, what
Speaker 1: kind of rules do you set with yourself? Like I
Speaker 1: must have something up every week, I must have to
Speaker 1: think of every two weeks because you gotta pay your mortgage,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay your rent, you gotta pay your car payment.
Speaker 1: Like the practical side of it, how much were you
Speaker 1: creating and uploading so you could actually just survive? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, I thankfully I had saved up some money,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't like paycheck to paycheck anymore. At this
Speaker 1: point I kept my job until I had a little cushion. Um.
Speaker 1: And I've never I'm very unique in the YouTuber sense
Speaker 1: because most YouTubers upload like every week. You know, they
Speaker 1: have to in order to keep the content role and
Speaker 1: keep their fans interested. Thankfully, you know, what you set
Speaker 1: as a precedent on YouTube is what your fans expect.
Speaker 1: I guess not even on YouTube in general as an
Speaker 1: artist or as a personality, Like, whatever you set, people
Speaker 1: are going to expect that from you. And thankfully I
Speaker 1: always have done like kind of sparse videos. I used
Speaker 1: to do one a month. Now, honestly, the last three years,
Speaker 1: I've probably done, you know, maybe ten a year, which
Speaker 1: is a lot for a musician that tours as much
Speaker 1: as I do and writes original music and I produce
Speaker 1: and I concept and direct all my own music videos,
Speaker 1: so that's and edit them still, so that's a lot,
Speaker 1: but for a YouTuber that's so little. Um But also
Speaker 1: I always had a much bigger picture in my mind.
Speaker 1: I never saw YouTube as the bread and butter for me.
Speaker 1: It was wow when I put up my first YouTube video,
Speaker 1: once I understood what YouTube was. By this time, I
Speaker 1: had like three songs online that were original, that were mine,
Speaker 1: that were my sound that I loved, and they hadn't sold.
Speaker 1: They've been up there for months and no one had
Speaker 1: bought them except for like my mom and you know,
Speaker 1: my sisters, and that's about it. And so suddenly when
Speaker 1: I put up this YouTube video, the first one after
Speaker 1: the you know beloved black and White Black Eyed Peas video, um,
Speaker 1: I saw the spike in the sales, and I like,
Speaker 1: I get it. This is not about YouTube. YouTube is
Speaker 1: like the you know, the ground, my playground, so that
Speaker 1: people can go wherever I need them to go. That's
Speaker 1: and I knew that's I wanted to get on tour.
Speaker 1: That's kind of was the end goal for me, is
Speaker 1: I want a tour, And so that was always what
Speaker 1: I saw as how I sell tickets, how I sell
Speaker 1: my music, how I sell everything is all based on
Speaker 1: this YouTube channel. But outside of it is where I
Speaker 1: make the cash to keep me afloat, because like I said,
Speaker 1: I only make you know, eight to ten videos a year.
Speaker 1: So when you get a check from YouTube, does it
Speaker 1: come from YouTube? Say YouTube? I want to say on
Speaker 1: the corner of the check, it's Google. I get a
Speaker 1: Google check. Yeah, it's so it's from like Google Inc. Yeah, Google,
Speaker 1: because it's Google that pay, like gets all those ads
Speaker 1: and put them on your channel. And do they ads
Speaker 1: have to be cleared by you like a certain kind
Speaker 1: of ad. Um. I'm allowed to say what I don't
Speaker 1: want on my channel, and every once while new one
Speaker 1: pops up there like oh I don't want that, like
Speaker 1: add that to the list. But you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: basically allowed to say. You're not allowed to say what
Speaker 1: kind of content is in the ad. But like from example,
Speaker 1: I don't have alcohol ads on my channel or like
Speaker 1: I think I asked for no Victoria's Secret ads like, um,
Speaker 1: like farmers only dot com, Oh that's my favorite. Let
Speaker 1: farmers absolutely. I mean I grew up on a farm.
Speaker 1: You know, those are my people. I might meet someone
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it was Okay, did you get on the
Speaker 1: dating apps? Have you been on the dating apps? I
Speaker 1: have been on the dating apps? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not super proud of it. But
Speaker 1: why of it? That's the way people meet now, I know,
Speaker 1: but they're so strange. They's so strange people. You can
Speaker 1: meet anyone that's strange. Yeah, you can meet strange people anywhere.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like the dating app culture. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I don't like about the dating is it's
Speaker 1: created the most flaky dating or culture in general, but
Speaker 1: in dating specifically, like you know, people like barely talk
Speaker 1: on them, like you message someone, and half the time
Speaker 1: they don't even message back because there's endless option of
Speaker 1: people that they swiped through. And so like someone you'll
Speaker 1: be talking to an all of a sudden they disappear
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, they probably found someone hotter. Okay,
Speaker 1: how would someone meet you, because they're probably listening. How
Speaker 1: how would i um? I like to go and hikes.
Speaker 1: I'll either be playing the violin amongst some trees or
Speaker 1: I'll be hiking. I was watching this video where you're
Speaker 1: in Alaska on a glacier. Yeah, that's my newest one.
Speaker 1: How do you First of all, what's the name of
Speaker 1: the video? It's called I Wonder As I Wander. I
Speaker 1: wonder as I wanted some whimsical right now, how did
Speaker 1: you get on a glacier? So this was actually a
Speaker 1: crazy story. I in the middle of our tour, we
Speaker 1: were able to book a show in Alaska, So we
Speaker 1: had a show, flew on a plane to Alaska, and
Speaker 1: we basically had thirty hours on the ground before we
Speaker 1: had to get back to our next show, which was
Speaker 1: in l A. So it's tiny little window of time.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm flying all the way to Alaska, like,
Speaker 1: and I knew I had to film this Christmas video,
Speaker 1: so I was like, I have to film on a glacier.
Speaker 1: So basically I got off the stage from this um
Speaker 1: we played the Alaska State Fair, and I jumped straight
Speaker 1: out the stage into a van. I did my makeup
Speaker 1: in the van, jumped onto a helicopter. You know, I
Speaker 1: changed in the bathroom of the helicopter pad into this
Speaker 1: like huge head dress and whimsical outfit, and then flew
Speaker 1: on a helicopter and they dropped me off a glacier
Speaker 1: with my camera guy. That's crazy, And like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing snowshoes like chains on my feet to hike
Speaker 1: from location to location as we're filming this, because we
Speaker 1: had several spots we wanted to film on, and like
Speaker 1: we were jumping over little glacial streams, climbing up glacial hills,
Speaker 1: like me doing this all in this head dress and
Speaker 1: this very very flimsy dress was freezing. Now I wonder,
Speaker 1: as I wonder, It's on the deluxe edition of Lendy's
Speaker 1: Christmas album Warmer in the Winter, So what's up with
Speaker 1: the deluxe? So you put more songs? I did? I
Speaker 1: think five new tracks on this album. That's what makes
Speaker 1: it deluxe. That's so this is one of the new songs,
Speaker 1: This is I, which turned into I think my favorite
Speaker 1: song on the album. Actually, now you're wearing an outfit,
Speaker 1: it's like why it's like you're you look like a
Speaker 1: Native American American. It's about to get married and on
Speaker 1: a glacier. It's crazy. It's kind of it's a who
Speaker 1: is this your idea? This outfit? I actually styled this
Speaker 1: video myself. I sewed some of it and I bought
Speaker 1: the rest of it off of Etsy, like a piece
Speaker 1: it together, you know, about a body suit here, so
Speaker 1: to skirt, bought a head dress here. So you do
Speaker 1: it all, huh. I love doing it all, Like the
Speaker 1: whole process is why I love that I get to
Speaker 1: make these like small productions, you know, because I can
Speaker 1: do it all. Are you so busy all the time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty busy, But I like it that way because
Speaker 1: I'm doing things that I like. I don't have to
Speaker 1: style my own videos myself, but sometimes I just enjoy
Speaker 1: it and I think it's important to do the things,
Speaker 1: not only that are going to be successful, but do
Speaker 1: them in a way that I started, Like why did
Speaker 1: I start doing this? Because I loved costume design, I
Speaker 1: love making videos, I loved editing them. So people are
Speaker 1: always telling me like, Okay, someone else to do all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and sometimes I do. Sometimes I'm like, well
Speaker 1: this one I want to do? This? Is you singing
Speaker 1: this too? Right? Yes? Do you sing? Not a lot?
Speaker 1: I sing this? But are you a good singer? I
Speaker 1: would never call myself a good singer. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: like mediocre singer on what scale? Though? Because I thought
Speaker 1: the black Appy video is pretty good? Hat on that
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good. So you're probably with
Speaker 1: real sing like great singers, and you're comparing yourself to
Speaker 1: like the Yeah, I mean like, could I pull off
Speaker 1: a full show of singing? Absolutely not? Like, well, I
Speaker 1: think the like my range is very limited, and like
Speaker 1: I can sing like this song was in my range
Speaker 1: and it was suitable for my voice, but like, I
Speaker 1: really don't think I could entertain the crowd singing for
Speaker 1: an hour? Do you ever get up and talk in
Speaker 1: your shows? All the time? My guys make fun of me.
Speaker 1: They're like, like, tonight you were talking for nine minutes
Speaker 1: and like in one break, and I was like, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was not, Um, I think it depends.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, it's important for me. And
Speaker 1: I don't always talk for nine minutes. Usually it's five,
Speaker 1: you know, per break, not always, but um, it's important
Speaker 1: to me that if I'm on a stage and thousands
Speaker 1: of people are in the audience, might as well say
Speaker 1: something that I actually believe in and care about. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, for example, like we were actually on a
Speaker 1: co headline tour with Evanescence this summer, and now let
Speaker 1: me just say I I am still a massive Evanescence fan,
Speaker 1: but also like growing up, like I had her Amy
Speaker 1: Lee's poster on my wall, I was a huge fan
Speaker 1: and like she and then the way that she approaches
Speaker 1: music has affected the way I approach writing music like
Speaker 1: high contrast, and so I love her. And when we
Speaker 1: had this opportunity tour together, was this is the coolest
Speaker 1: thing ever. And so here I am on stage in
Speaker 1: front of you know, sometimes ten fifteen thousand people at night,
Speaker 1: and I would go up to the mic and I
Speaker 1: would say, you know, it's pretty cool that we're on
Speaker 1: tour Evanescence. You know, I've I've been a casual fan
Speaker 1: for years, and you could kind of see the look
Speaker 1: of like her fans being like, um, that was rude.
Speaker 1: And then immediately this music video of me starts playing
Speaker 1: when I was as me as a fifteen year old
Speaker 1: like rocking out to Evanescence and like with my two
Speaker 1: best friends, you can tell we think we are so cool.
Speaker 1: It was my really early editing days and um, actually
Speaker 1: the first music video ever made. And so you know
Speaker 1: then I would as soon as that went away, I
Speaker 1: would say, well, I guess obviously I am not a
Speaker 1: casual fan. I'm a huge fan. And that created a
Speaker 1: moment for me to be like, no one would have
Speaker 1: ever looked at that girl, that awkward girl in that
Speaker 1: screen and thought that she would amount to anything, but
Speaker 1: guess what. That girl had really big dreams and that
Speaker 1: girl was willing to work really really hard. And I
Speaker 1: fell down many times when I got back up and
Speaker 1: I and this was the moment right after I had
Speaker 1: just played a song with Amy Lee and then to
Speaker 1: be able to be like then, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that momentment so much more and for me, like the
Speaker 1: talking moments like are to make people one relate to
Speaker 1: me and realize because also when I perform, it's very
Speaker 1: like kind of like that music video we just watches,
Speaker 1: very epic and very like you know, ah, and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of goober like in real life, so it's like
Speaker 1: I'm this whimsical, magical creature. And then I go to
Speaker 1: the mic and they're they're all very aware that I'm
Speaker 1: just a normal awkward girl. Are you awkward? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm super I mean, yeah, definitely. How so
Speaker 1: I mean together to me? I mean, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: put together, but that doesn't mean I'm not awkward still,
Speaker 1: you know, like I I guess I'm just goofy, Like
Speaker 1: I'm just a goober, and you know, I'll do a
Speaker 1: lot of swinging MSS like, I'll really go for it and
Speaker 1: and try to be funny sometimes and it's not funny, um,
Speaker 1: but uh. And then also sometimes just being myself and
Speaker 1: being a little bit goofy and kind of playing into
Speaker 1: the awkwardness makes people laugh. Like people like that, and
Speaker 1: you know, they always say it's the best when you're
Speaker 1: just yourself. And I stopped. I used to get so
Speaker 1: nervous those moments going up to the mic. That was
Speaker 1: the part that I like fear the most of the
Speaker 1: entire shows. I have to talk to him. What do
Speaker 1: I say? Um? Because I felt like I had to
Speaker 1: be so put together, and the more I've just been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just need to own what I am. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's made it like now, I love that moment. It
Speaker 1: feels like I get to connect with the audience in
Speaker 1: a totally different way, especially because I don't get to
Speaker 1: use my voice at all through the show, and people
Speaker 1: connect through the voice, and you know, I'm playing a violin,
Speaker 1: and so when I get to finally like use my
Speaker 1: voice and talk to them, I think it fills a
Speaker 1: gap that could be very apparent in the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wilder. You're not You're not wearing a mic at all,
Speaker 1: no headset, mike And where is your Where is a mic?
Speaker 1: It's up in the top corner of the stage stage right,
Speaker 1: if you will. And what one time I got stuck
Speaker 1: on something like in the middle of the stage in
Speaker 1: the middle of the show. I was like super high
Speaker 1: off the ground and I was stuck and it was
Speaker 1: just a funny moment because everyone's looking around like what
Speaker 1: do we do, Like she has no mic, Like I
Speaker 1: couldn't explain to the audience like having technically, I couldn't
Speaker 1: even be like goofy or awkward about it or joking
Speaker 1: to make it fun. I had nothing. I'm like up
Speaker 1: there in silence, and luckily my keyboard players hilarious and
Speaker 1: so like, you know, he would really it turned into
Speaker 1: a really funny moment, but it was just a man.
Speaker 1: It would be really nice if I had a mic
Speaker 1: right now, but it's like thirty ft away. That's crazy
Speaker 1: to think you're performing on a stage and people can't.
Speaker 1: You can't just flick something on. You don't wear like
Speaker 1: a no secondary headset, mike nothing. Oh I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got so many packs on. I've got
Speaker 1: the violin or I've got the inner monitor pack already
Speaker 1: that you gotta hide in the spandex costume. How do
Speaker 1: you hide a micro or a in your monitor pack
Speaker 1: in a Spandex costume? I don't know. But the last
Speaker 1: thing I want is the second one. So, so yeah,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite artist? Cannot Pink is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite artists. And I'm saying that, like all one you
Speaker 1: get one, I'm only gonna be one artist. There you go,
Speaker 1: it's Pink and it's music, it's performance, Like who why
Speaker 1: is it Pink? It's because it's mostly because I feel
Speaker 1: like she is throughout everything she does. I love what
Speaker 1: she stands for. I love the way she presents herself
Speaker 1: to the world. Um. And you see that you hear
Speaker 1: in her music, you also see it in her life show.
Speaker 1: Her live show is the best life show I've ever
Speaker 1: been to. And like, you know, when I leave and
Speaker 1: experience either listening to Pink talk or seeing her on
Speaker 1: stage or hearing her music, it's like, yes, you just
Speaker 1: feel good about owning who you are. Young girls look
Speaker 1: at you. What do you want them to see? You know?
Speaker 1: I want them to see someone who who has worked
Speaker 1: really hard to love herself, because that's something that didn't
Speaker 1: come natural naturally to me. Um when I you know,
Speaker 1: I went through some anorexia and call and severe depression
Speaker 1: and I finally woke up to the fact that I
Speaker 1: deserved better and that I had a problem. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people look at me the same
Speaker 1: way with like dancing at the stars. They just see
Speaker 1: me as this like happy pixie violinists that like, oh
Speaker 1: she looks you know, ever, her world looks so perfect,
Speaker 1: But it takes work to love. I think it takes
Speaker 1: work sometimes to love yourself and to be okay in
Speaker 1: your own skin. And it's something that I put a
Speaker 1: ton of work into for years to go from hating myself,
Speaker 1: like I'm talking, hating myself and thinking I was hideously ugly.
Speaker 1: And it's not that the girl in the mirror changed
Speaker 1: at all, like physically, like, nothing changed to make me
Speaker 1: love myself and feel beautiful. It was a it was
Speaker 1: a choice, and it was effort, and it was learning
Speaker 1: the tools and the skills. And so I hope that
Speaker 1: when young girls look at me, no matter where they're
Speaker 1: at and their emotional awareness or how they feel about themselves,
Speaker 1: they realize, well, Lindsey learned to love herself and works
Speaker 1: hard still to love herself, and it must be possible
Speaker 1: for me to do this same thing. Do you get
Speaker 1: a lot of feedback from young girls let's see you
Speaker 1: and hear your message? Did you do you read those
Speaker 1: messages at all? Yeah? I do. I mean I get
Speaker 1: I get letters at shows and you know, or get
Speaker 1: sent letters um or comments online. And I think that
Speaker 1: is the thing that makes me the most like proud
Speaker 1: of not proud, that's the wrong word, but just this
Speaker 1: was one of the most gratifying things I think is
Speaker 1: for me as an artist, because it's something that I
Speaker 1: struggled with and to see that maybe in a way
Speaker 1: I'm helping, you know, not only young girls. This is
Speaker 1: something that the boys struggle with too, and that maybe
Speaker 1: I'm helping someone realize that it's worth the fight, it's
Speaker 1: worth the effort, and that there's hope. Because when I
Speaker 1: was struggling, that was the hardest thing was you know.
Speaker 1: You hear sometimes that mental diseases are like kind of incurable,
Speaker 1: especially on a rexya. They say it's incurable, and I
Speaker 1: kind of now I see what they're saying, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's not a thing anymore for me. I've
Speaker 1: I've learned to cope with it so well that as
Speaker 1: long as I stay on top of it, it's not
Speaker 1: I don't, it doesn't It's not a factor in my life.
Speaker 1: Your tour rider is something that you walk into a
Speaker 1: room at a venue and they have all these things
Speaker 1: that you've requested. Things, what's on the Lindsay Sterling tour rider.
Speaker 1: You know, mine's so boring, it's very minimalistic because I
Speaker 1: got really annoyed at how much stuff goes to waste,
Speaker 1: and so I have a very minimal, very small writer.
Speaker 1: But some of the more interesting things on there. I've
Speaker 1: recently fallen in love with chocolate coconut milk. It's so
Speaker 1: good chocolate chocolate, so not real milk, like like squeeze
Speaker 1: coconut water. It's like coconut water. But they have coconut
Speaker 1: milk and you can get a chocolate version and it's
Speaker 1: got whaleless sugar in it and whaleless calories. So it's
Speaker 1: it's like kind of guilt free and I can drink
Speaker 1: a tone of it minimal guilt. It's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like little guilt instead of like oh I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: had that, It's like, oh, maybe you shouldn't have had that.
Speaker 1: So you have chocolate coconut milk, cocon milk. We also
Speaker 1: have We occasionally put NERF gun bullets on there because
Speaker 1: we like to have NERF gun wars. Do you take
Speaker 1: your own guns? Though, yes we do, we have our
Speaker 1: own guns. Do you take you have your own guns?
Speaker 1: We request the bullets. You know, we keep having to
Speaker 1: rebuy the guns because they keep getting broken. They're not
Speaker 1: made to last, so usually we just buy new butt
Speaker 1: guns every tour. Um. Yeah, we request the bullets because
Speaker 1: you can't reuse those things. Once you shot him a
Speaker 1: couple of times, they they're kind of done. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I'm not fluent in NERF bullets. See that's
Speaker 1: why I'm telling you. I didn't notice until I became
Speaker 1: a new NERF gun connoisseur um, and then you know.
Speaker 1: And then our writer has the other things like Thomas
Speaker 1: and veggies and um apples and one of the funny
Speaker 1: things whenever you came to Dancing with the Stars for
Speaker 1: the week that we were there, is that grosser store
Speaker 1: Joe is on the show, who's a super nice guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you were like, oh, I know him from the show.
Speaker 1: So you guys watched The Bachelor and Bachelor Paradise. Yes,
Speaker 1: we actually watched it on tour religiously, Like me and
Speaker 1: the girls on tour would look forward to it and
Speaker 1: we'd we'd record it and after the show on like
Speaker 1: Monday night, we'd go watch it on the bus and
Speaker 1: you would see grocery store Joe and go, I like
Speaker 1: that guy from the show, or no, oh, we love
Speaker 1: grocery store Joe. What was his thing because I haven't
Speaker 1: I know on the Batch when he went home early.
Speaker 1: No Bachelorette, right, yeah, the Bachelorette. He didn't make it
Speaker 1: through the first episode. So what was it on batchlor
Speaker 1: in Paradise that made people go, I really like that
Speaker 1: guy because he's super likable and I like him Listen,
Speaker 1: I like him as a person, but I didn't see
Speaker 1: him on the TV show. He's very he comes across
Speaker 1: as so sweet and just so real, and he's kind
Speaker 1: of awkward, but like in a very endearing way. And
Speaker 1: so I think that's why America film love with him,
Speaker 1: because he was just like he was. He was kind
Speaker 1: of awkward and you could tell he was really uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but he was just so kind and genuine. I think
Speaker 1: that's how he is in real life, and that's how
Speaker 1: he is in real life. Yeah. After now I can
Speaker 1: say that I know Grocery store Joe. I heard that Jenna,
Speaker 1: his dance partner, was like, oh my goodness, I'm getting
Speaker 1: groceries toward Joe, like before they danced. She was actually
Speaker 1: jenn Is a friend of mine, I mean obviously from
Speaker 1: the show. Um, and she was telling me that she
Speaker 1: was like, I was genuinely so excited, and then he
Speaker 1: liked me, cannot dance. We're the lowest as you hear this,
Speaker 1: we're the lowest two scorers on that show. But go ahead.
Speaker 1: People love you so that you know, that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing, is it? Though, like it's got to be
Speaker 1: a mix. Well, it's definitely a mix, but like those
Speaker 1: I gotta get a little better though. Right, Well, you're
Speaker 1: working hard, so that wasn't the question. That wasn't the question.
Speaker 1: Let's startling, I have to get a little better, right,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling this week you're going to kill it. Why
Speaker 1: don't you answer my question? I have to get you
Speaker 1: have to get a little better. Okay, there you go,
Speaker 1: but you improve every week, so I have no doubt
Speaker 1: that you will. So diplomatic with your answers. Here's this,
Speaker 1: you're a mean one, Mr Gretch. Here's some of this
Speaker 1: from Lindsay startling and the Christmas album that is called
Speaker 1: Warmer in the Winter. Right, all right, but how can
Speaker 1: you just do your meal? Mr? Granted to pay for this? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's well, you don't pay for it, pay for it
Speaker 1: by what people pay you exactly. You're Sabrina Carpenter love
Speaker 1: her the teen singer, a teenager. Yeah, yeah, maybe she's
Speaker 1: with twenties. I don't everybody everybody that, How do you
Speaker 1: get an artist to play with you like this? Dude?
Speaker 1: Just ask him? Call her up? Well, actually I don't
Speaker 1: have her number, um, but through her management, you know,
Speaker 1: we've tracked her down. I met her at the Disney
Speaker 1: Awards and we talked about doing something together, and then
Speaker 1: a couple of months later, I, you know, called in
Speaker 1: for the favor. All right, Well, as we record this,
Speaker 1: what is it October? A month it is? I'm so
Speaker 1: underwater with all this stuff. It is October as we
Speaker 1: record this hasn't even been Halloween yet. I'm inappropriate. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. No, you're getting ahead of it. So the
Speaker 1: records out that you're gonna be on tour win starting Wins.
Speaker 1: We start the day after Thanksgiving, November Sacramento. Uh is
Speaker 1: that right? I think we we start in Nevada. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's well, it says here Nearest, Oh nearest shows what
Speaker 1: that says? Okay, got it? Got it? Got it? You
Speaker 1: pulled that schedule off. We do play Sacramento. Listen, We've
Speaker 1: done an hour here you and I talking. We've been
Speaker 1: talking an hour. We've done one hour, and is there
Speaker 1: anyone still listening? Of course of course, and your people
Speaker 1: are very patient. Let me just say, well, we're not live.
Speaker 1: Well I know that. What if she thought it is
Speaker 1: a live show the whole time? I'm like, how many?
Speaker 1: Let's take you some callers? Okay everyone? November Reno is
Speaker 1: your first show? Your second shows in Sacramento. Okay, there
Speaker 1: we go there. It is Salt Lake Broomfield, Colorado, which
Speaker 1: is at Denver. Okay. A lot of places on our shows.
Speaker 1: One uh oh maaha, which you talk Kansas and Intrust,
Speaker 1: Like are you spring Film Missouri? Yeah, crazy Minneapolis, Madison
Speaker 1: Blue Man. Come on, she'll be on on all Christmas.
Speaker 1: And you may be hearing this way after Christmas too.
Speaker 1: She's probably doing something right now, we've done an hour.
Speaker 1: Let me say this, I appreciate your candor through this interview.
Speaker 1: It's very refreshing. Um. I appreciate your guidance through my
Speaker 1: last couple of months because I've definitely leaned on you
Speaker 1: as as with the dancing with the Star stuff, and
Speaker 1: even a bit at being in California and being in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. What do. I know, I'm from freaking Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I'll take you to the best. Yeah, So I appreciate that,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, good luck. I hope you sell lots
Speaker 1: of Christmas albums, thank you, and hope people come to
Speaker 1: your shows because it's going to be such a good show.
Speaker 1: So I hope people come. But thank you so much
Speaker 1: for having me, and thank you for your thought out,
Speaker 1: thoughtful questions. There's a reason you're good at what you do.
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't have any notes in front
Speaker 1: of me. I know that, but you're just very thoughtful.
Speaker 1: I did read your book and see you did your
Speaker 1: homework and it's called only Pirate at the Party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's so funny. Let me see if
Speaker 1: I can tell the story paraphrased. You're get invited to
Speaker 1: a party right when I first moved to l A. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's really you're like part in the USA, Miley Cyrus. Right.
Speaker 1: It's like hopped in the cabin l A. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what's going on. You're trying to be cool.
Speaker 1: And it was um a themed party for hold on
Speaker 1: not parts of the Caribbean. Hold On wait, oh, Peter Pan,
Speaker 1: that's what it was Peter Pan. Thank you, there's Peter Pan,
Speaker 1: And so you assume everybody's gonna be dressed. There's a
Speaker 1: Peter Pan party, now costume and you show up as
Speaker 1: a full dressed pirate and nobody was dressed. Like I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I had just done a music video as a pirate,
Speaker 1: so I had a like legit Captain Hook costume. Amazing,
Speaker 1: And you have to make the decision do I go
Speaker 1: into the party fully dressed? Because I believe it said
Speaker 1: in your book maybe one person had a Peter Pan
Speaker 1: T shirt. I can tinker about T shirt. That was it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because I opened the door and like, no one is
Speaker 1: dressed up, but no one had seen me yet, And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I have I could get in
Speaker 1: my car and I could go home. No no, a
Speaker 1: foult like no one saw me. And I was like,
Speaker 1: or I can go into the party and just like
Speaker 1: really on this and I've decided to go into the party.
Speaker 1: And then how do people react? Oh? People got the
Speaker 1: biggest kick out of it, Like people were like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, like what's your name? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this grow up. But as as a pier, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I ended up making so many friends. I was the
Speaker 1: conversation starter of the night, not purposefully, you know, And
Speaker 1: I feel like that was such a perfect metaphor for
Speaker 1: my wife. It's not like I go through life trying
Speaker 1: to be like, how could I be super different? But
Speaker 1: I just by like the standards I live by, by
Speaker 1: the kind of art I create. That's a metaphor for
Speaker 1: my life. I'm just a little different. I'm a little
Speaker 1: left of center. And I could neither be ashamed of
Speaker 1: it and go home, or I can be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going into the party dressed as a pirate.
Speaker 1: And the lesson is what go into the pirate dressed
Speaker 1: the party? Be yourself, like, don't be ashamed of who
Speaker 1: you are. Um. People told me when I first was
Speaker 1: starting that I would never succeed because I was too different.
Speaker 1: Over and over again. You're just too different. We don't
Speaker 1: know what box to put you in, you know, from
Speaker 1: record labels and whatnot. Now, when people say they love
Speaker 1: my art or they come to my shows and they
Speaker 1: fly across the country to come, the reason they're they're
Speaker 1: so different. It's refreshing. It's so different. And I think
Speaker 1: that the very reason I was told I was never
Speaker 1: succeed is the very reason I have look at that,
Speaker 1: and we should end on that. Letty Starling, you've been
Speaker 1: a real treat to talk to and she's doing it.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Motion about her hand which does
Speaker 1: not play well through, dang it, Thank you very much. Alright,
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