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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: How's everybody doing on this Friday? Chris Brown Madi glab

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Speaker 2: with you here on One Bill's Live back in our

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Speaker 2: studios at One Bills Drive as we do not need

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Speaker 2: to be out of training camp today because it is

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Speaker 2: the return of the Blue and Red practice which will

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Speaker 2: hopefully have a scrimmage like portion tonight. No guarantees, but

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Speaker 2: you know we are expecting some team session that simulate

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Speaker 2: more of a football game. And one of the main

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Speaker 2: reasons why coach McDermott has employed this is to get

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Speaker 2: the new additions to the team, particularly the rookies and

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Speaker 2: undrafted rookies and draft picks and whatnot, get them acclimated

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Speaker 2: to how they conduct their lead up to a game

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Speaker 2: day here at home at high Mark Stadium. So he

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Speaker 2: just wants everybody to be familiarized with how game days

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Speaker 2: are run here.

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Speaker 3: It's even as simple as this is how you drive

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Speaker 3: your car into the stadium on a game day. I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of these guys are getting bussed from

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Speaker 3: Saint John Fisher University to One Bill's Drive, but these

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Speaker 3: are the things you need to walk through before preseason

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Speaker 3: games begin. It's what gate is open to the players,

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Speaker 3: how do you walk through the facility? Where is the

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Speaker 3: home locker room. Some of these guys might not have

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Speaker 3: even been at the stadium before. So you have to

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Speaker 3: rehearse all of these things so that when it comes

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Speaker 3: time for a preseason game, you're not worried about am

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Speaker 2: All of those things are not a concern because you've

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Speaker 2: run through it before. All you're focused on is the

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Speaker 2: upcoming game, which is kind of right where the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff wants the players head zet if you are coming.

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Speaker 2: Parking lots open at three pm, gates open to get

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Speaker 2: into the stadium at four pm, and practice starts at

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Speaker 2: five thirty. Much better weather this year, Maddie. We had

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Speaker 2: last year. We were worried the whole thing was gonna

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Speaker 2: get scrapped. There was like thunder and lightning in the area.

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Speaker 2: We were like, is this going to get delayed? Is

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Speaker 2: it going to happen? Nope, And you know, fortunately it

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Speaker 2: did finally take place much better. Whether tonight it's going

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Speaker 2: to be beautiful. I think it's only gonna be like

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Speaker 2: seventy eight eighty degrees this afternoon, so by five thirty

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Speaker 2: you're talking low seventies. So, like, I mean, that is ideal.

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Speaker 2: Even the players would tell you they'd take that in

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Speaker 2: a heartbeat for a practice condition. We'll also see where

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Speaker 2: things stand on the injury front, because Joshua Palmer left

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Speaker 2: practice early yesterday. It didn't look on the surface like

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Speaker 2: anything serious. He was running some routes and then he

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Speaker 2: went over to talk to the head athletic trainer, Nate Breski.

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Speaker 2: Then he tried something again and then went over and

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Speaker 2: talked to him, and they just shut him down for

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Speaker 2: the rest of practice. So hopefully it's just like a

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Speaker 2: minor tweak that they said, hey, let's not make this

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Speaker 2: Like maybe he's back by Monday. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: expecting that.

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Speaker 3: These injuries are piling up. Chris. It's tough to see

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Speaker 3: some of these new guys even not finish a practice

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Speaker 3: when every single training camp practice is so important to

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Speaker 3: getting accustomed to the playbook, being in pads, running through

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Speaker 3: to start training camp. You wonder how does this affect

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Speaker 3: these guys come week one, even first, second and third

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they he was working back in the other

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Speaker 2: think is what it was described for him. So he

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Speaker 2: if that changes for him tonight, because I know there's

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Speaker 2: like a lot of One of the main reasons a

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Speaker 2: it's their first chance to see the new guys in

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Speaker 2: calf injury. I got them all well. Quad injury. That's what. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then for scheduling purposes, the team is then off

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Speaker 2: And I guess the big hubbub tonight is if Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen's going to have another specially designed helmet, as he

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Speaker 2: has debuted a new one each time. Three years ago,

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Speaker 2: he busted out the red helmet and people went bananas, like.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna say the red elvis, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And that didn't happen. Then the next year he busts

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Speaker 2: for that. I think that practically went viral. And then

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Speaker 2: last year he had the black matted helmet. Remember that

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Speaker 2: that was well, that was pretty sweet.

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Speaker 3: Look what's it gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Well, Maddie, I don't think this is gonna happen, but

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Speaker 2: we're kind of running out of colors here that would

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Speaker 2: think he rolls out the AFL helmet tonight knowing they're

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Speaker 2: gonna wear that twice this year with the standing buffalo, right?

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Speaker 2: I don't think, because we already know the release date

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Speaker 2: for this. The rivalry uniforms are August twenty eighth, right,

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Speaker 2: that's when those are going to be revealed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we got a little teaser this week, and I would

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Speaker 2: venture to guess they're going to be looking pretty frosty.

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Speaker 2: So with that in mind, there's no way he's coming

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Speaker 2: They're not going to ruin the surprise.

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Speaker 3: There's too much going on.

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Speaker 2: So my so my bet not that I'm a betting

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Speaker 2: the I'm going with the standing red buffalo white AFL

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Speaker 2: throwback helmet. That's my guest for tonight.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a guess or I don't have a guest.

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Speaker 3: I'll guess what your guessing. Then, well, there's really nothing

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Speaker 2: Coming out with a green helmet, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, you can't do that and there's no way that

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Speaker 3: he's gonna come out in the helmet that they're gonna

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Speaker 5: No, not happening.

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Speaker 2: So that's August twenty eighth, So keep an eye out

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Speaker 2: But definitely, based on the te's you gotta believe it's

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Speaker 2: really like when they go with their all white stormtrooper look,

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Speaker 2: like they don't even wear blue socks. They have like

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Speaker 2: love that Stormtrooper look when they have that. So I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping that the tease is telling us that's where the

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Speaker 3: Be sweet winter white.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they wear those in like a

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Speaker 2: late season snow game. Good luck seeing those guys on

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Speaker 2: the field, Like Josh would be like, ah yeah, gonna

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Speaker 3: It's change jerseys at halftime.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't be good. So those are kind of the

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Speaker 2: Bills news and notes for tonight. We do have to

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Speaker 2: go around the NFL because there are some interesting contract

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Speaker 2: around the NFL. Brought to you by Kalida Health, the

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills and the Micah

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Speaker 2: Parsons Cowboys relationship is getting pretty ornery and apparently as

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Speaker 2: deteriorated to the point where Parsons is considered during drastic measures,

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Speaker 2: including a possible trade request and maybe even some kind

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Speaker 2: of an announcement that he's severing his relationship with the team.

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Speaker 2: That's according to multiple sources. So clearly his agent is

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Speaker 2: putting that out in the media strategy.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's read the tea leaves here. Is there truth

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Speaker 3: to this or are you just putting this out there

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Speaker 3: because we're trying to get something else.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a veiled threat to try to spur

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Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I really don't get it. I mean, he's one of

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Speaker 2: the top three or four pass rushers in football. Your

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Speaker 2: team is not like overflowing with elite talent, ceedee lamb

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Speaker 2: elite talent. Okay, you know, Dak Prescott's probably in the

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Speaker 3: And I mean they got who's the other Trayvon Diggs

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Speaker 2: Who's the other receiver they acquired to play opposite CD

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Speaker 2: this year? Oh at the guy from the Pickens George

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Speaker 5: I could.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I drew a blank on So Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've got two really good receivers, you got

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Speaker 2: a quarterback that can throw the football, and you've got

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Speaker 2: Parsons on defense. But that defensive front has changed over

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Speaker 2: a little bit. De Marcus Lawrence is in Seattle now,

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Speaker 2: so you don't have the bookend pass rushers like you

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Speaker 2: used to. I don't know, It's just they've been dilly

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Speaker 2: Dalliant on this and I don't understand it. They did

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Speaker 2: the same thing with dek Like. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: they believe this is a tried and true way to

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Speaker 2: get Do you know how much more money they're paying

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Speaker 2: now than they would have paid if they signed him

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Speaker 2: before the Watt deal and before the Garrett deal. I

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Speaker 2: mean they probably could have got him for like thirty

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Speaker 2: eight million a year. Now you're looking at like forty

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Speaker 3: Not a good way to do business, not at all.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised to see this headline come out because

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Speaker 3: I kind of thought, like, Okay, this is a threat

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Speaker 3: for the team to hey, get your wheels moving on something,

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Speaker 3: or we're gonna we're gonna go elsewhere, or we're gonna

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Speaker 3: we're gonna cause even more chaos. You need him on

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Speaker 3: your team.

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Speaker 2: You need they do if they want to go.

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Speaker 3: Michah Parsons on your team. And if he's not gonna

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Speaker 3: be on your team, there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 3: other teams who will be calling for Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of league sources are saying that the

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Speaker 2: two sides obviously are far apart. They're not even negotiating

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Speaker 2: right now, according to reports. So it's gotten that bad. Sheesh,

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Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes. I mean, requesting a trade

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Speaker 2: is a tactic that's been used before and the player

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Speaker 2: doesn't move. And as a matter of fact, Washington Commander's

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Speaker 2: you know, his status as at least somebody who could

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Speaker 2: start for you in the league. Maybe not this year,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it gets pressed into action, plays well

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Speaker 2: for them, you never know. Uh So, yeah, Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame game, eh, thirty four to seven footballs though football

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Speaker 2: is back, and a little bit later, we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: some of the implementation of the Hawkeye technology. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into that a little bit later on in the show

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Speaker 2: eight oh three five point fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty for the OBL Friday fan mail Bag.

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Speaker 2: We do have to break here because when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're going to play an interview that Steve and I

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Speaker 2: recorded yesterday out at camp with NFL head official Sean Smith,

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Speaker 2: now entering his eighth season as a head official in

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Speaker 2: the league. Going to go over some points of clarification

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Speaker 2: with him along with some of the new things being instituted,

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Speaker 2: including some of the changes to the kickoff rule, the

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Speaker 2: on side kick, and maybe some areas that you should

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Speaker 2: be looking out for too that the refs are going

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Speaker 2: to be focused on. We catch up with Sean Smith

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Speaker 2: next here on One Bills Live presented by Collidea Health.

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Speaker 7: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker back here on one Pills Live

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Speaker 2: and joining us now the Pride of Ferris State, now

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Speaker 2: in his seventh year as an official head official, eighth

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Speaker 2: as a head official in the NFL. Dang, I thought

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Speaker 2: I had it all down. I was close. It's Sean

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Speaker 2: Smith joining us as his crew is visiting Bills training camp.

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Speaker 2: As crews are all around the league to do their

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Speaker 2: preseason work and get ready for the upcoming regular season.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, first and foremost, Yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 2: having I want to start right off the rip here

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Speaker 2: with the all important and you guys get handed these

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Speaker 2: every year by the league, the points of emphasis. What

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Speaker 2: is at the top of that priority list this year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like I was saying earlier, it really hasn't changed

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Speaker 8: year over year. I mean, you know, we don't really

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Speaker 8: want to you know, stay on top of the personal files,

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Speaker 8: the you know, the unsportsman like things. Those are the

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Speaker 8: things that you know, non football type of things that

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Speaker 8: they want to get out of football. So you know,

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Speaker 8: we want to clarify that, we want to make sure

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Speaker 8: we protect the quarterbacks at all and yeahs and things

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Speaker 8: like that. So, you know, over the last few years,

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Speaker 8: it's been pretty consistent from a points clarification standpoint, So

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Speaker 8: not a whole lot new for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, taunting and the gesturing there was

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Speaker 2: a sharp spike in that last year and they want

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Speaker 2: to tamp that down, right, So you guys are going

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Speaker 2: to kind of be one rely on that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I said, the unsports and non football type things,

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Speaker 8: those are things that we kind of focused on last year,

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Speaker 8: but there was there was no new things I would

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Speaker 8: say that was that we're added to that. It's just

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Speaker 8: you know, making sure that we stay on top of

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Speaker 8: those things.

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Speaker 1: Year over year. How much change crew to crew is there?

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Speaker 4: I know that when you get to the playoffs, we

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Speaker 4: always hear about, well, it's you know, because they give guys,

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Speaker 4: they reward guys with playoff games and Super Bowls, and

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Speaker 4: but they always say, well, it's not a real crew

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Speaker 4: that hasn't worried like he worked with him and that

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Speaker 4: guy was on this guy's crew and that guy was.

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Speaker 1: How much of that is there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So year over years, it varies. It depends on

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Speaker 8: you know, retirees, things of that nature. You know, we

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Speaker 8: we have un change this year. You know it's been

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Speaker 8: years past where we had three or four changes. So

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Speaker 8: it just varies from crew to crew, depending on the dynamics,

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Speaker 8: how many retirees you had, you know, coming in, how

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Speaker 8: many new hires and what that right makes getting the

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Speaker 8: right chemistry. It varies. But this year for our crew

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Speaker 8: in particular, we just only had one change.

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Speaker 2: I know that there's going to be some extra video

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Speaker 2: assistance for you guys in the form of boundary line cams.

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Speaker 2: This year, all thirty stadiums installing twelve fixed cameras that

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Speaker 2: are going to be positioned to shoot along the sidelines,

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Speaker 2: the goal lines, and the back of the end zones

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Speaker 2: for you guys to utilize. I'm assuming when you're under

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Speaker 2: the hood, sure more than anywhere else, and I guess

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Speaker 2: it would assist replay assists for you. They'll be looking

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Speaker 2: at a lot of those upstairs when need be. How

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Speaker 2: does that make you, know, an official feel, when you

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Speaker 2: know there's extra angles where if it's necessary, you can

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Speaker 2: get it right.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good thing or bad thing?

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm asked.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 5: want to get them right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it all helps, right, we all want to be right,

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Speaker 8: and that's our goal every every day, every time we

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Speaker 8: take the field. So I think with the new boundary

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Speaker 8: line cams, it just makes it consistent from stadium to

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Speaker 8: stadium that you're getting the same looks no matter if

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Speaker 8: you're in Buffalo or if you're in Detroit, or if

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Speaker 8: you're in la, you're getting the same look. So I

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Speaker 8: think from that standpoint, it kind of gets you know,

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Speaker 8: some of that uniformity across the board from that perspective,

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Speaker 8: But that's.

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Speaker 5: Really out of our lens of work. I mean, we yeah,

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Speaker 5: until you go under the hook they give us so

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Speaker 5: but yeah, I think it just makes it more consistent.

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Speaker 4: What have you been told or what's your experience with

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Speaker 4: the Hawkeye technology.

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Speaker 8: Hawkeye is taking the you know, replace to another level

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Speaker 8: because from what I understand that you have like thirty

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Speaker 8: plus views up there and they have all the different

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Speaker 8: angles you know, right at their tip fingertips, so they

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Speaker 8: no longer have to rely on the networks to provide

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Speaker 8: them with information. They can see it, you know, in

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Speaker 8: real time right away. So that helps you know us

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Speaker 8: and as you notice what the replay it says, they

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Speaker 8: can get us that information pretty quick. We can you know,

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Speaker 8: they can say, hey, there that the runner's knee was down,

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Speaker 8: or there was no handle on the face mask, things

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Speaker 8: of that nature, and that that happens pretty seamless and

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Speaker 8: uh mixed for a better product on the field.

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Speaker 2: Overtime is now going to mirror the playoff overtime rules,

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Speaker 2: so it's uniform, which has got to be great. You

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Speaker 2: don't need changes. You got enough changes to deal with

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Speaker 2: and little esoteric things. So each team must have a

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Speaker 2: possession in overtime in the regular season. I gotta imagine

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Speaker 2: that feels pretty good to just have uniformity, you know,

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Speaker 2: from regular season a postseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll just add two things to that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, so the difference from the playoffs is this,

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Speaker 8: still we're going to still have the ten minute overtime period.

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Speaker 8: So each team would have the opportunity to possess the ball.

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Speaker 8: So you could have a team.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point, right, could run the ball all

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Speaker 2: the way out.

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Speaker 8: They could run it all the way out, or a

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Speaker 8: team could intercept the ball and then lose it back

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Speaker 8: and the team has it and that was their opportunity

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Speaker 8: to possess it or to okay, it's right on, it'side kick,

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Speaker 8: so it's it's some other dynamics in there, but they

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Speaker 8: would have an opportunity to possess the ball. But I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, that's one of the things that I think

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Speaker 8: it will be good, you know, for both teams to

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Speaker 8: have it, but they still have that ten minute, you know,

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Speaker 8: timeframe to get it done.

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Speaker 2: He just thought of like five different scenarios and that answer,

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Speaker 2: and my brain can't even go that far. So I

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Speaker 2: do not envy. In all the places your brain has

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Speaker 2: to go, there's always.

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Speaker 4: The the the specter of unintended consequences when they when

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Speaker 4: they tinker with the rules and they go down those

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Speaker 4: rabbit holes a lot. Yes, to think about that how

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Speaker 4: much nowadays, particular with Hawkeye technology and how what is

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Speaker 4: the anticipation of how that will affect the pace of game.

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Speaker 4: I mean they, I know it's always the three hour thing.

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Speaker 4: They'd love to get the games in. What how does

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Speaker 4: that stand right now? What is the average pace of

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Speaker 4: play and game? And what are the games if you.

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Speaker 8: Know, I don't know, Yeah, I don't know the exact number,

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Speaker 8: but I think the average game is about three or five,

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Speaker 8: three or seven, So they need to keep it in

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Speaker 8: that timeframe, especially for those one o'clock though.

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Speaker 4: With these new change Hawkeye and the silent, that may

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Speaker 4: give them that extra five.

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Speaker 8: Well, and that's the reason when we talk about Hawkey

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Speaker 8: it helps in that regards because they were not spending

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Speaker 8: time shutting down the games. They're giving us that information

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Speaker 8: in real time, so it's not it's not disrupting the game.

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Speaker 4: If you will, how are you gonna announce when they say, hey,

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Speaker 4: because of the Hawkeye stuff, they said they got it,

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Speaker 4: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Well, there'll be a graphic up on the video scoreboard, right,

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Speaker 2: much like you see in tennis.

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Speaker 5: Well, we get replay assists.

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Speaker 8: So what we do now, if we get an assist

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Speaker 8: from the replay booth, what we do is we shut

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Speaker 8: the game down and then we give each team an

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Speaker 8: opportunity to reset so they may have a different place.

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Speaker 8: So we called first and ten and now it's really

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Speaker 8: third and one. So we make sure that we give

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Speaker 8: them ample time to get the next play call or

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Speaker 8: get the right play call in and shutting everything down

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Speaker 8: and resetting it.

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Speaker 5: So try to do that as quick as how.

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Speaker 4: Has that affected maybe the play clock.

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Speaker 8: Them, yep, we'll make sure because you know the play clock,

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Speaker 8: they get the coach to play coach to player time frame,

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Speaker 8: so that has to be reset so they still have

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Speaker 8: enough time. Because that was some of the things that

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Speaker 8: we struggled with initially, is that we would make these resets,

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Speaker 8: but coaches didn't necessarily have enough time. They thought it

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Speaker 8: was first and tend and that was a play they called,

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Speaker 8: but now it's third and one, so they got to

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Speaker 8: get a new play in. So we want to make

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Speaker 8: sure that both sides are aware that we did have

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Speaker 8: this change and they have time to make that correct.

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Speaker 2: The dynamic kickoff is permanent now. Last year it was

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Speaker 2: like a one year rule and now it's been made permanent.

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Speaker 2: But touchbacks now come out to the thirty five and

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Speaker 2: on on sides kicks, it's not just being behind in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Anytime you're behind, you can declare how

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Speaker 2: how are you anticipating because teams are going to be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's do it. I mean, you still can't do a

631
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Speaker 2: surprise on side kick anymore. That's gone forever, but there

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Speaker 2: could be a lot more of those for you guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And then there's also the one other changes that

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Speaker 5: the receiving tea where the kicking team players will now

635
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Speaker 5: step have must have a foot on the thirty on

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Speaker 5: the line as opposed to thirty four.

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Speaker 2: So the regard closer conceivably is that to try to

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Speaker 2: drive up I think recovery percentage.

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Speaker 8: My understanding is that the recovery percentage goes up based

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Speaker 8: on the proximity from the receiving team.

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Speaker 5: So, but yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Think that that little change will make a difference there

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Speaker 8: that some teams may try to, you know, have an

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Speaker 8: on side kick earlier in the game, depending on the situations.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking it for granted that you're not working the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game no tonight, you know, a tough turnaround.

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Speaker 2: How soon?

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Speaker 4: How soon do you get your your your preseason assignments,

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Speaker 4: and then of course your regular seems how far out

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Speaker 4: did they go?

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Speaker 8: So we we typically find out about five weeks ahead

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Speaker 8: of time where we're going, So five weeks for the

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Speaker 8: assignment we find out, and then we get one assignment

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Speaker 8: at a time. So by the time we have one assignment,

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Speaker 8: we should know our next next four.

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Speaker 2: And it looks like as far as replay review is concerned,

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Speaker 2: that's expanded a little bit in terms of certain plays

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Speaker 2: that they can assist you guys on. Obviously, you guys

659
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Speaker 2: want to get it right in real time. But I'm curious,

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Speaker 2: how do you guys feel about that you know, there

661
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Speaker 2: is I guess does it act like a security blanket

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Speaker 2: for you guys? Does it feel that way or.

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Speaker 8: Or we try not to treat it that way because

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Speaker 8: when we step on the field we aim to get

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Speaker 8: every call correct right. We you know, we want to

666
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 8: make sure that everything that we do is correct. We

667
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 8: want to work that perfect game. That's our that's our

668
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Speaker 8: goal every time we step on the field. But that

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Speaker 8: doesn't happen. So but in those situations where we may

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Speaker 8: have made a mistake, and especially now with some of

671
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Speaker 8: the replay assists, when when it relates to a face mask,

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Speaker 8: if it really wasn't a face mask, or it wasn't

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Speaker 8: a tripping call, or it wasn't a hit to a

674
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Speaker 8: head of the rough right in the past, we much

675
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Speaker 8: rather get that right as opposed to, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, be wrong, because those are significant penalties in the game.

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Speaker 4: And if thinking back, has it taking the whistle out

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Speaker 4: of your mouth, thinking well, if if I call it,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna it'll get correct.

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Speaker 1: Do you call more? You know? Are you are you

681
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Speaker 1: more aggressive?

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Speaker 2: Because replays can't make a.

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Speaker 4: Call, They can't they can conjure up a call, but

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Speaker 4: they can certainly correct a call that you might make

685
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Speaker 4: thinking it was one or seeing that it was one

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Speaker 4: and then having it be reversed. Is that how does

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Speaker 4: your mindset handle that dynamic?

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Speaker 8: No great question, I think from an officiating standpoint. You know,

689
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Speaker 8: we don't change the way we officiate, even though we

690
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 8: know that replay is there to get it right.

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Speaker 5: We still have to call the game as we've been

692
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Speaker 5: trained to call it.

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Speaker 8: But we don't necessarily say, all right, well, I'll take

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Speaker 8: more chances here because I know if I'm wrong. And

695
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Speaker 8: then because we're evaluating greeted on every play, so you

696
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Speaker 8: want to make sure that you're accurate because at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, we're all competing. We all want

698
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Speaker 8: to make sure that we're you know, doing the best

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Speaker 8: job that we can do. So we don't you know,

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Speaker 8: aim recklessly out there too.

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Speaker 2: And I know, on Sunday when you know there might

702
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: be some some boo birds out there, just know that

703
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Speaker 2: there are people that do do Remember that you guys

704
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: are human, you know, and it's hard to be perfect,

705
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: especially especially especially at the speed at which this game moves.

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: It's hard to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I don't happen to be one of those people, but

709
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Speaker 4: we appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, We appreciate it. Good luck having

711
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: a successful season with your crew.

712
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Stay in one piece, don't get rolled over.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, get out of the way.

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Speaker 2: All the best you guys, that's NFL head official Sean

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Speaker 2: Smith joining us. We'll take a break and be back

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Speaker 3: You know it sounds good, Give me some.

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Speaker 2: I always I could go for something to eat all

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Speaker 2: the chocolate off. That's how I eat them. You're crazy,

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Speaker 2: I can't do both at the same time. I think

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Speaker 2: part of the reason why was when I was a

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Speaker 2: little kid, I got four fillings and they were super

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Speaker 2: sensitive to cold, so biting into like an ice cream

738
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Speaker 2: bar was just not happening. So I would peel all

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Speaker 2: the chocolate off with my teeth and then I would

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Speaker 2: just eat the ice cream off the stick.

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Speaker 3: Wow, those would have been nice after those super hot

742
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Speaker 3: training camp practices that we just had.

743
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta eat it fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right away, we wanted to mention an element of last

747
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Speaker 2: night's Hall of Fame game broadcast quickly before we get

748
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Speaker 2: to the phones, about what you should expect to see

749
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Speaker 2: if you come to a home game here with the

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Speaker 2: Bills or if you're watching the game on TV. They've

751
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Speaker 2: got the Hawkeye technology. So, as you heard Sean Smith

752
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: explaining in the last segment, the refs are still going

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00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: to spot the ball after a play, but as soon

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Speaker 2: as that ball is spotted, the Hawkeye cameras in the

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Speaker 2: stadium are all going to take a picture of it

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Speaker 2: simultaneously and then compare the location of the ball to

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Speaker 2: the line to gain. And you'll see this. Our MSG

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00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: viewers are seeing this visual animation of whether or not

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Speaker 2: it's a first down, or whether or not it's short,

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Speaker 2: and in some cases they'll tell you how short three

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Speaker 2: inches half a foot foot and a half, and that

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Speaker 2: way they don't have to take the time to drag

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Speaker 2: the chain gang out there to measure with the chains.

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Speaker 2: The Hawkeye technology will be doing that. And if you're

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Speaker 2: at the game, this animation is going to show up

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Speaker 2: on the video boards for everybody to see home. You'll

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Speaker 2: see what our MSG viewers are looking at now instead

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Speaker 2: of watching the guys come out with the chains and

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Speaker 2: you know, measure the links and pull the first down

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Speaker 2: mark or past the football. So it's new animation, new

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Speaker 2: technology to verify whether the spot is in fact a

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Speaker 2: first down or not. So hopefully we don't go down

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Speaker 2: that road again.

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Speaker 3: Another rule change because of the buffalo bell.

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Speaker 2: R wow, I want to screen.

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Speaker 1: Here we are again, Here we are again.

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Speaker 3: When we spoke to Sean Smith because he did meet

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Speaker 3: it availability with local media too, he mentioned like, when

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Speaker 3: we do this, I obviously and the ref obviously will

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Speaker 3: know if it's a first down or not before the

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Speaker 3: stadium knows, but they're going to try to time it

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Speaker 3: up so the image or the video flashes on the

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Speaker 3: jumbo tron before the ref announces first down, not a

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Speaker 3: first down, so that you get the crowd action first.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the motivation there, to be honest, that's a

787
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: nice way of him saying it. I think the motivation is, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got this technology to help the officials. If the

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Speaker 2: officials are still declaring first down or it's short before

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Speaker 2: the technology does, people are gonna be like, well, why

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Speaker 2: are spending all the money on the technology?

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the other part of it. But that's

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Speaker 2: just mean we'll give you a show, exactly. But it's

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Speaker 2: very reminiscent of the technology we see in tennis where

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Speaker 2: they have the same kind of animation with a ball

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Speaker 2: bouncing near the line and whether it's inside the line,

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Speaker 2: on the line or over the line to be in

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Speaker 2: or out. The Tennis Tour has used that for years

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Speaker 2: and they have similar animation because I think they do

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Speaker 2: use the Hawkeye technology for tennis as well. Want to

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Speaker 2: get to the phones because it's the OBL Friday fan

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Speaker 2: mail bag. Eight oh three five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty that's the number

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Speaker 2: to get on board with us, and we do have

806
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: open lines for you there if you have any question

807
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: under the sun about the Bills, the players, the coaches,

808
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: how training camp is going fire away there or on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet of one Bills Live. But leading us

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Speaker 2: off today is Mark in West Seneca. What do you

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Speaker 2: got for us?

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Speaker 1: Mark?

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Speaker 10: Well, with you guys just having that discussion you just did,

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Speaker 10: the first thing that came to my mind was I

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Speaker 10: thought the hawkeye technology was going to help the referee

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Speaker 10: spot the ball. Now if the referees are on their

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Speaker 10: own spotting the ball and they misspoted, which is what

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Speaker 10: the problem we had in Kansas City last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: how are we any further ahead unless you know they

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Speaker 10: are going to help them spot the ball when they

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Speaker 10: misspot it. So yeah, I mean, great idea as far

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Speaker 10: as did you make the line the game when the

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Speaker 10: refs put it down? But what happens when they put

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Speaker 10: it down in the wrong.

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Speaker 2: Spot right, and they don't take that human element out

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Speaker 2: of it unfortunately?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So I don't know where we're any further ahead done,

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Speaker 10: I really don't, other than to say we're not bringing

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Speaker 10: out the chain gang.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the best thing this does is it

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Speaker 2: accelerates the time it takes for the chain gang to

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Speaker 2: trot out there. Line it up, hold the link of

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Speaker 2: the chain and measure it is far. You're taking that

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Speaker 2: thirty forty seconds out, so I guess you speed up

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Speaker 2: the game a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But you're right.

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Speaker 2: The human element remains as far as spotting goes.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and since we're in this realm of refereeing and

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Speaker 10: all that kind of good stuff, because this isn't what

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Speaker 10: I call about, so give me a second here, I

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00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 10: really appreciate it. The thing about the cameras that has

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00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 10: been one of my biggest scripes for years, with them

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Speaker 10: dependent on the TV stations in order to get replay,

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Speaker 10: and because TV stations typically from my knowledge, did not

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Speaker 10: have the same number of cameras in each stadium game

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Speaker 10: to game because of regional, national all that kind of

847
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 10: thing hellcast in my mind when the replay became so big,

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Speaker 10: they were not referering the games equally game to game,

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Speaker 10: only dependent on how big a game it was. So

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Speaker 10: now installing these cameras the way you guys are describing it,

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Speaker 10: they're finally getting to uniformity as far as replay goes,

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00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 10: which is really a huge step in my mind. Just

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Speaker 10: a comment on that. The reason I called was Landon Jackson,

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00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 10: very curious to know what he's looked like in camp.

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00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 10: Not a lot of discussion by you guys about him.

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00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 10: Do you think he's going to get caught up in

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00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 10: a numbers game if Solomon keeps showing out. We got

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Speaker 10: both where he's going to make the fifty three, because

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Speaker 10: I don't think he's in danger of not making the

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00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 10: fifty three, but just won't be getting a jersey on Sundays.

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Speaker 10: And then the other thing I wanted to ask real

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Speaker 10: quick with the whole talk about helmets, jerseys, throwback jerseys

863
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 10: and all that, has there ever been on a league

864
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Speaker 10: wide scale, any kind of discussion about throwback jerseys for

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Speaker 10: a whole season for the whole league in a way

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Speaker 10: like the modern NFL came into existence in my mind

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Speaker 10: in nineteen seventy with the AFL NFL merger. I would

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Speaker 10: love to see every team wearing what jersey they were

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00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 10: wearing in nineteen seventy and any team that came into

870
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 10: the league after that where the jersey they wore their

871
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 10: very first year in the NFL. I think the fans

872
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 10: would love it, even if they just did it on

873
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 10: a one week or two week basis or something. But

874
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 10: I think it would be really really neat to see

875
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 10: the old Miami jersey, the old Boston Patriots jersey, old

876
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 10: New York Jets jersey. I could go on to Denver Broncos,

877
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 10: to all of the AFL teams. I think that would

878
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 10: be really really cool, And I mean I think the

879
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 10: NFL would have a windfall in gear sales if they

880
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 10: did that. So that's what I got today, guys.

881
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, all right, thanks Mark for the call.

882
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

883
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

884
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would do it for a

885
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: whole season, but I could see like a turn back

886
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: the clock week.

887
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: I thought, like the NFL's one hundred and fiftieth season.

888
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just do oh yeah, maybe for a whole season.

889
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: If it's like one hundred and fiftieth, maybe that would

890
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: do it. But other than that, I would expect more

891
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: of a turn back the clock week. I could see

892
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: them doing that and get the whole league to wear

893
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: whatever they wore in nineteen seventy. That's not a bad idea.

894
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: As for Land and Jackson, bit of a slow start

895
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: to camp. He's had a tough time getting in there

896
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: and getting reps. As we know, the defensive end position

897
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: is pretty deep right now, and Javon Solomon has had

898
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: a solid training camp and he's been rewarded for it.

899
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: He's been complimented by not one but two coaches, head

900
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott and Bobby Babbage, who said he has

901
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: made appreciable strides in his game from year one to

902
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: year two. And I remember when Steve and I had

903
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: him on set here in the spring during OTAs and

904
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: I was talking to him about you had about a

905
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: half dozen almost sacks in the limited time he was

906
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: on the field and some of the blowout victories Jacksonville

907
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: comes to mind when he actually did get a sack

908
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: the week eighteen game against the Patriots when he got

909
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: a lot of playing time and he had two near

910
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: sacks against Joe Milton. Now that I'm thinking about it,

911
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: but he had like half a dozen of them, and

912
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: I asked him how do you turn those almost into

913
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: actual sacks? And he goes, that is what I've worked

914
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: on the entire offseason and he said it was rooted

915
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: in perfecting technique because unlike a lot of the other

916
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: defensive ends, as you know, Maddy, on this roster, he's

917
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: not six six, and he's not long. He has long

918
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 2: arms for a person his size, like thirty four inches,

919
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: and he has big hands and they're very strong hands,

920
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: like even Greg rus says said his biggest asset or

921
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: the strength of his hands. But he has worked tirelessly

922
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: on his technique this offseason, and I think you're seeing

923
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: some of the benefits of that. And he's been getting

924
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: a lot of second team reps because of it, and

925
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: that has pushed Land and Jackson down behind him. You

926
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: and I, I know we're talking on the sidelines the

927
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: other day, and I was of this opinion when he

928
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: got drafted. I'm still of this opinion now. I think

929
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: as a rookie, if and when he does dress for

930
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: a game day, I could see him being a base

931
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: down defensive end. And I guess what I mean by

932
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: that is in obvious run situations, whether it's first and

933
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: ten or second. In short, I see him on the field, grinding,

934
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: setting the edge and making plays there I don't, and

935
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: then you know Bosa comes on for pass us stuff.

936
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: This is where I think it's important if you're taking

937
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: in practice, whether you're working for a media outlet or

938
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: as a fan, to know that sometimes there are things

939
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes and team meetings of what

940
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: is your role on this defense or on this offense,

941
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: and how is it going to play out? Because if

942
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: he is setting the edge on obvious rundowns, what you

943
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: are doing is not going to look sexy out on

944
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: the field. You're doing the dirty work. And to a

945
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: person who's watching a player two here there, you may

946
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: watch a rep and be like, well, that was boring,

947
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 3: or all he did was set the edge. I don't

948
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: see him being a pass rusher, which is what he

949
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 3: did at Arkansas. So I think it's important to remind

950
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: yourself of that for every single player on this roster

951
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: is what are they being asked to do? And maybe

952
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: we don't have that answer right now.

953
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but we are still taking

954
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: calls at eight oh three h five fifty. When we

955
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: come back an hour number two, we're going to be

956
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: joined by NFL Networks Rhett Lewis, as we discussed with

957
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: him some of the training camps he has covered around

958
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: the league thus far, and we'll also talk to him

959
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: about some Pro Football Hall of Fame and Shrine man

960
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: ceremonies coming up this weekend, along with maybe his thoughts

961
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: on what the Bills could have in store for them

962
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: this season. RhD Lewis joins us next here on One

963
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Kilida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Ring.

964
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 6: This is One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

965
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: All right, here we are I number two on a Friday.

966
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Naty glab with you here on One Bills

967
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: Live and please to be joined now. Guy will be

968
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 2: at the Return of the Blue and Red scrimmage tonight

969
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: at high Mark Stadium. It's NFL Network host Read Lewis

970
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: joining us here, and man, this guy has been hitting

971
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: training camps rapid fire, like a machine gun. I don't

972
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: know if he knows what day it is. I don't

973
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: know if he knows what city he's in. But rhet,

974
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: thanks for giving us some time. Yeah, the first question

975
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: right out of the shoot here, which camp has maybe

976
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: surprised you the most? Because you've been to about half

977
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: a dozen. Naturally you go in with expectations. What kind

978
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: of camp turned out to be one that you didn't expect,

979
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: either for good or for bad?

980
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

981
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 11: Look, I think it is kind of tough at times, right,

982
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 11: because you know the first part the first week you're

983
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 11: you're just you're watching, you know, glorified calisthenics right without

984
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 11: pads on. So my first opportunity to see a padded

985
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 11: practice was Wednesday in Latrobe, Pennsylvania for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

986
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 11: which was actually their first padded practice, so there was

987
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 11: a real palpable intensity there. I'm really excited to see

988
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 11: and I've really heard some rave reviews about Aaron Rodgers

989
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 11: and the way that he has, you know, kind of

990
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 11: endeared himself to his team and his teammates in this setting, and.

991
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 6: There was a lot to like there.

992
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 11: Saw some positive things from their rookie running back Caleb Johnson.

993
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 11: Mike Tomlin's got that team competing at a very high level.

994
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 11: At this stage of camp. You could really tell there

995
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 11: was a little bit of tempers flaying, and that always

996
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 11: kind of happens when the pads come on for the

997
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 11: first time. So that has for sure been one where

998
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 11: I was like, oh, okay, this feels like football again.

999
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 3: Well let's stick with the Steelers. How do you see

1000
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers fitting in with Mike Tomlin and his crew really?

1001
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 11: Well, it's a good question to ask because I feel like,

1002
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 11: for so long we've talked about how teams will fit

1003
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 11: in with Aaron, how this receiver corps will fit with Aaron,

1004
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 11: how the you know, how Aaron's offense will work with

1005
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 11: this iteration of players. I think was a question a

1006
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 11: couple of times with the Jets, right, But this feels like,

1007
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 11: you know what to expect from an Arthur Smith offense.

1008
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 11: You know it's gonna be physical, you know they're gonna

1009
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 11: run the football. But I kind of I was listening

1010
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 11: to what Aaron Rodgers was saying the day we were there,

1011
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 11: and he was like, I really appreciated the fability that

1012
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 11: Arthur is shown to take this group of you know,

1013
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 11: talented skill position players and a really talented offensive line

1014
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 11: that's getting better and better as they get healthier, and

1015
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 11: let's find ways to make this thing work.

1016
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 6: Because I think ultimately.

1017
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 11: That's what a best off the best offense and offensive

1018
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 11: coordinator can do is, you know, take what the take

1019
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 11: the playmakers they have and put them in position to

1020
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 11: make those plays.

1021
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: And it feels like they're going to be able to

1022
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: do that with DK.

1023
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 11: The chemistry there with DK and Aaron is exactly how

1024
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 11: you would expect Roman Wilson, their rookie of year ago,

1025
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 11: didn't play very much last year. I think is really

1026
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 11: intriguing to me some some real quickness there.

1027
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 6: And then watch out for Johnny Smith.

1028
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 11: I think that is going to be one of the

1029
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 11: more underrated acquisitions of a player, uh from this offseason.

1030
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 11: I'm excited to see what he's going to bring to

1031
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 11: the tight end group.

1032
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Arthur Smith, if I remember right, he

1033
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: had him in Tennessee, so he's got plenty of in Atlanta. Yeah,

1034
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: so he's got plenty of familiarity with him and how

1035
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: to utilize him. So he'll just fit right in. You

1036
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: major way up to Patriots camp, were always interested in

1037
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: seeing what the rest of the AFC East has to offer,

1038
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: and a lot of us are of the belief that,

1039
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, the Patriots could be sitting right behind the

1040
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: Bills at the end of the regular season as far

1041
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: as division standings go. Mike Vrabel's there a proven winning

1042
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: coach and a guy who, even if he doesn't have

1043
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: as much talent as you can muck up a game

1044
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: with the best of them, Like your team could be

1045
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: dominating for three and a half quarters and there you

1046
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: are with four minutes left and you're winning twenty three

1047
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: to nineteen against his team. Uh, he just has a

1048
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: way to do that. And he's got a good defense.

1049
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: He's got a good looking defense there that should keep

1050
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: them in games. I know the old lines the big

1051
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: question up there, but what were your observations in the

1052
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: time you had to get an eye on them?

1053
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 11: Well, look, I think you're right that you know, Mike

1054
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 11: Vrabol is a really really good head coach, and I

1055
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 11: think really good coaches find ways for their teams to

1056
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 11: be competitive in games, like more often than not. And

1057
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 11: I think that's what that's what you'll come to expect.

1058
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 11: I don't know, you know, if that if that means

1059
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 11: that the Patriots are gonna win ten games, but I

1060
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 11: think they're going to be really competitive, you know, week

1061
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 11: in and week out, you know, from the first quarter

1062
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 11: to the fourth quarter. So then I think you look

1063
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 11: at your quarterback and you say, all right, can he

1064
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 11: make me some plays here down the stretch to where

1065
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 11: we can go from being closed to winning those close games.

1066
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 11: And I think that's what Drake May has the opportunity

1067
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 11: to do. He's been really sharp thus far. He has

1068
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 11: really embraced this leadership role for this team as the

1069
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 11: face of the franchise. Going into his second year, I

1070
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 11: think he's really thriving under Josh McDaniels. That is something

1071
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 11: to really watch because this is an offense that is

1072
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 11: going to take profits they are not. I think that

1073
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 11: if you think back to when when McDaniels and Tom

1074
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 11: Brady were at their best, they were a high completion

1075
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 11: percentage offense. Now sure they had a couple of years

1076
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 11: there where they were chucking it all over the place

1077
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 11: with Randy Moss.

1078
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 6: I don't think that's what we're looking.

1079
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 11: At here, But I think this is going to be

1080
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 11: a team that's going to hit a lot of completions.

1081
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 6: Count on some receivers like.

1082
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 11: Pop Douglas, like Kyle Williams, the rookie out of Washington State,

1083
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 11: to you know, make some quick catches and then turn

1084
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 11: those into positive gains with yards after catch, breaking tackles,

1085
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 11: making moves, that sort of thing. And then I'm really

1086
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 11: excited to see how they deploy Travon Henderson, one of

1087
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 11: the one of the draft picks I'm most excited about,

1088
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 11: you know, going into this season, I think you can

1089
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 11: make a real impact. Thinking back to the ways that

1090
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 11: Kevin Fok made impacts for the Patriots out of the backfield,

1091
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 11: James White, Shane Breen. I think Traveon is a guy

1092
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 11: that has the capability to be on the field really

1093
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 11: for all three downs on offense.

1094
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: I think another player that people, at least in Buffalo

1095
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: are curious about is somebody who Bills players and Bills

1096
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: fans know very well because he spent a lot of

1097
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: time with Josh Allen during his younger years. Is how

1098
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs is doing coming off of that ACL injury.

1099
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 3: A lot of people are thinking he'll be a big

1100
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: part of the offense. What did you see out of

1101
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 3: his connection with Drake May when you were there.

1102
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 11: Well, you know, when you guys asked me about, you know,

1103
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 11: a camp, I was maybe surprised at seeing, you know.

1104
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 6: Positively or negatively.

1105
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 11: I would say it was the positive reaction to Stefan

1106
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 11: Diggs's recovery from the ACL mid season with the Texans

1107
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 11: last year. He looks really good and he looked sharp,

1108
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 11: and I think that is going to be a huge

1109
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 11: asset for Drake May because, like I mentioned, they're gonna

1110
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 11: take some high percentage completions here, but Diggs gives him

1111
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 11: the opportunity to push the ball down the field and

1112
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 11: to make those explosive plays. And I think he's right

1113
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 11: on track in doing that. And I think there's been

1114
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 11: you know, obviously there was you know, some challenges that

1115
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 11: they had to deal with very publicly in the off

1116
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 11: season off the field. But I do believe that when

1117
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 11: he's been working out, when he's been rehabbing, it has

1118
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 11: been full speed ahead. And that has shown early on

1119
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 11: here in camp. And I think that is that steady hand,

1120
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 11: you know, along with along with a guy like Mac

1121
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 11: Collins who comes in and you guys know very well

1122
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 11: from Buffalo, I think we'll be real assets from a

1123
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 11: veteran perspective because there is a real talented group of

1124
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 11: young receivers that those guys could really kind of help

1125
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 11: bring along here.

1126
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: Chris, before you see your question, I heard Stefan Diggs

1127
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: had no shoes on and was doing the Mac Collins

1128
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: deal already, which is awesome. Which is awesome to see

1129
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: a guy like that who had, you know, was so

1130
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: big in our locker room MC Collins last year. Yeah,

1131
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: very influential, is already influential in the Patriots locker room

1132
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: as well.

1133
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 6: The right way too.

1134
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, let's get everybody feel in the yes grounded.

1135
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, the Bengals are dealing with this,

1136
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: and I know you swung through Bengals camp. We're seeing

1137
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: it more and more right now, whether it's Micah Parsons,

1138
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: whether it's Terry McLaurin. These contract squabbles that are you know,

1139
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: getting closer and closer to the preseason with no at

1140
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: least imminent and insight. We've seen the trade request threat

1141
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: used before by receivers and they don't move in the

1142
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: year they make those trade requests, you know, thinking of Dvo,

1143
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: Samuel Here, Brandon Ayuk and guys like that. Are you

1144
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: surprised that, you know, Terry McLaurin in his camp are

1145
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: still utilizing that after I don't know, can we say

1146
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: they got great results last year with that? I guess

1147
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: they eventually did get contracts, So maybe that's why it's

1148
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: being employed here again. But it seems like high end

1149
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: players are having a tough time getting an agreement with

1150
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: their clubs respectively. Here.

1151
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I I think it's a tough spot

1152
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 11: and that one, to me is a is a really

1153
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 11: tough one and I feel like I can I can

1154
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 11: really sympathize with what mclaurin's going through because this was

1155
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 11: a guy that, since he came into that franchise, was

1156
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 11: met with nothing but know discontent with the fan base

1157
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 11: on how everything was being handled. There was controversy there.

1158
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 11: I mean like there has been so much going on

1159
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 11: with the commanders that Terry McLaurin has been on board for,

1160
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 11: and yet he has been the staple. He has been

1161
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 11: the face of the franchise right until Jayden Daniels came in,

1162
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 11: and he has been the guy that has kept everything

1163
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 11: above board. He was a captain as a rookie, like

1164
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 11: all the leadership stuff that you want, like he's got it.

1165
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 11: He's also been extremely productive on the field with his

1166
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 11: consecutive thousand yard seasons.

1167
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 6: That one, to me is a no brainer. I'm not

1168
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 6: sure what the what the hang up is there.

1169
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 11: I'll talk to my buddy Ian Rappaport when we catch

1170
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 11: up here outside of Highmark Stadium in just about an

1171
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 11: hour and kind of see where things are going there.

1172
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 11: But that one is a bit of a head scratcher

1173
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 11: to me. The Hendrickson thing, you know, I kind of understated,

1174
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 11: like the Bengals have been through this contract thing before.

1175
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 11: Hendrickson's a little bit older, but has been really productive.

1176
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 11: I certainly understand it from his point of views, is

1177
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 11: probably is going to be his last chance to really

1178
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 11: cash in. And it's been at the very top of

1179
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 11: the of the position group there in terms of production

1180
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 11: for the last couple of years since they signed him,

1181
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 11: so he is woefully underpaid. So I understand his point

1182
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 11: of view there. And look, I know you guys are

1183
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 11: kind of dealing with it to a little bit of

1184
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 11: a lesser extent with James Cook right certainly wants to

1185
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 11: get a new deal and there.

1186
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 6: Isn't one yet.

1187
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 11: But I'm curious to talk to coach McDermott when he

1188
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 11: joins us before practice starts just outside of Heimrich Stadium tonight,

1189
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 11: And I'm curious to see how they've kind of handled

1190
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 11: the tenor of things as this has all been going on.

1191
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 11: I mean, look, football players and football coaches can be

1192
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 11: very compartmentalized, right. We can separate the stuff that doesn't

1193
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 11: help us win the day and ultimately get the winning

1194
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 11: result when it matters, and really focus on on the

1195
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 11: field stuff.

1196
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 6: And I'll be curious to see how.

1197
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 11: They've handled that, because that's another one that obviously we've

1198
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 11: got to followup here, well, a little.

1199
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 3: Bit of breaking news on this front. Micah Parsons just

1200
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: tweeted out, like fifteen seconds ago, a couple of screenshots

1201
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 3: stating what he wants, and the last two sentences say,

1202
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 3: I have made a tough decision. I no longer want

1203
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: to play for the Dallas Cowboys. My trade request has

1204
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: been submitted to Stephen Jones personally. What is your reaction

1205
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: to how this is now playing out?

1206
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 6: Well, excellent job, you know, mating the tweet deck right.

1207
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: There, Maddie.

1208
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 6: You got to say on top.

1209
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 11: Of these things here, look, I think that based off

1210
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 11: the way things had been talked about publicly there, it

1211
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 11: was trending this direction. Now, I would say, just hold

1212
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 11: on a second. This is often a tactic and not

1213
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 11: just that Micah has used. We've seen this before, you

1214
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 11: talked about it with Terry McClure and all. This this

1215
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 11: does feel a little bit more, you know, charged, right

1216
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 11: with the way that Jerry Jones talked about Micah beforehand,

1217
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 11: the way that Micah has kind of reacted to those statements.

1218
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 11: This is the worst part of what's happening is when

1219
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 11: both sides end up talking indirectly about each other publicly,

1220
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 11: and then you have these sorts of results.

1221
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 6: So look, I.

1222
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 11: Don't I don't end the position that Brian Schottenheimer is

1223
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,959
Speaker 11: in as a first year head coach, first time head coach.

1224
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 11: There are the Dallas Cowboys and his best player and

1225
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 11: Michael Parsons is extremely disgruntled at this point and now

1226
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 11: asking for a trade.

1227
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 6: I don't know that it's going to come to that.

1228
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 11: I my guess is cooler heads are going to prevail

1229
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 11: and they're going to see that both they're better with

1230
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 11: each other. It's just a matter of finding that dollar amount.

1231
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 11: And I would bet that come game week, No, we're

1232
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 11: going to find a resolution there, at least for Schottenneimer's

1233
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 11: case and for a time there in Dallas.

1234
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 6: Let's just say we'd hope that they would find a resolution.

1235
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, last one from me, Redd, and thanks again for

1236
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: the time. You know you're going to be here at

1237
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: practice tonight. You mentioned how you'll be talking to coach

1238
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: McDermott and ask him about the James Cook thing. What

1239
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: else is on your radar as you try to take

1240
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: in the Bill scrimmage tonight.

1241
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 11: Ian Coleman has been a fascination of mind really since

1242
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 11: he came out of the draft, you know, finishing up

1243
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 11: at Florida State after a career at Michigan State and

1244
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 11: then getting drafted in the second round there by Buffalo

1245
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 11: and being you know, one of those Josh Allen guys, right, guy,

1246
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 11: he really wanted. I want to see some you know,

1247
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 11: a modicum of consistency you know, throughout a practice, right

1248
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 11: And I want to see you know, days stacked and

1249
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 11: at least from what what I've been, you know, kind

1250
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 11: of seeing from the outside, it sounds like this has

1251
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 11: been a better start than a year ago, which you

1252
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 11: know is to be expected right going into year two.

1253
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 11: So I want to see how he can you know,

1254
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 11: kind of stand up and take hold of being a

1255
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 11: reliable player down in and down out for Josh Allen.

1256
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 11: And I know there's been some injuries that that you

1257
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 11: guys have been dealing with here, you know. I know

1258
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 11: Dawson Knox is kind of on his way back, which

1259
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 11: is which is an important piece of things. Uh, And

1260
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 11: then he got some better news than maybe expected with

1261
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 11: Maxwell Harriston. But you know, the other thing that I'm

1262
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 11: I'm really curious to see is, uh, you know, the

1263
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 11: Trey White Reunion Tour right. It was such a good

1264
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 11: player here out of you know, when they drafted him

1265
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 11: in the first round out of LSU, and I know

1266
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 11: he's been he's been back here and to make an impact.

1267
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 11: So we'd love to see some Keon Coleman and Trey

1268
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 11: White get after tonight. By the way, can I just

1269
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 11: say before I jump out of here, guys, that I

1270
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 11: was here, gosh a few years ago. It might have

1271
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 11: even been pre COVID, It might have been right the

1272
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 11: season right after, but it was for this very scrimmage

1273
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 11: inside high Mark Stadium, And I remember Josh Allen coming

1274
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 11: out of the running out onto the field to start

1275
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 11: the scrimmage in the red helmet. Yeah, and everybody was like,

1276
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 11: oh my gosh, it's coming back. Well, I mean, I

1277
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 11: guess we're full circle now because it's coming back right.

1278
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1279
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: He has a different helmet reveal every year. He came

1280
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: out with a blue helmet the next year, and then

1281
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: last year was a black matted helmet. So he turns

1282
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: everybody on his ear. We were talking about it on

1283
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: the show, what's he going to come out with tonight?

1284
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Our guests and this is only a guess. Was he

1285
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: was going to roll out the standing red Buffalo white helmet,

1286
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: since they're wearing that twice this year and there's really

1287
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: nothing else to pick. He can't come out with a

1288
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: purple helmet or a green helmet, you know what I mean.

1289
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: So that's our guest. We'll see if that proves to

1290
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: be correct. And I gotta say, a former receiver, Yeah,

1291
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: and I got to say, a former receiver looking at

1292
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: keyon Coleman tonight?

1293
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: What a shock?

1294
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: You know? Former receiver Rent Lewis fix a receiver to

1295
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: look at I love it tonight, Rhett, thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we get to catch up with you on the sidelines,

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Speaker 2: but enjoy your time here in Buffalo and safe travels

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Speaker 2: the rest of the way.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, guys on.

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Speaker 2: Network host Rhet Lewis joining us. Yeah, former Indiana receiver.

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Speaker 2: So who's he looking at for practice? And he wants

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Speaker 2: to watch Coleman? What a show? Yep, yep yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: big ten guy. Right, So there it is all right?

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Speaker 2: Well that was I'm interested now because he kind of

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Speaker 2: re sparked the whole thought in my head, like what's

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Speaker 2: Josh gonna run out with? Helmet wise?

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Speaker 3: Tonight, we are counting down the hours five thirty is

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Speaker 3: when practice begins tonight. Practice should go about two hours.

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Speaker 3: I know lots open at three, doors open at four,

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Speaker 3: So we're getting close.

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Speaker 2: We are, and we should mention since we just had

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Speaker 2: an a Networks read Lewis on NFL Network and they're

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Speaker 2: going to be airing the twenty twenty five Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame in Shrineman ceremony live on Saturday, which

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Speaker 2: is starting at one pm. Coverage kicks off at twelve

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Speaker 2: for Hall of Fame Saturday, and they've got the whole

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Speaker 2: kitten kaboodle in terms of the induction speeches and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: So if you're into this year's Hall of Fame class,

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Speaker 2: which I know includes Antonio Gates among others, he's going

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Speaker 2: to be pretty popular there in Canton because he played

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Speaker 2: his college basketball at the University of Akron. If I

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Speaker 2: have that right, I want to say University of Akron.

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Speaker 2: I think that's correct, and then just transitioned into an

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Speaker 2: All World NFL tight end.

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Speaker 3: It was insane.

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Speaker 2: So there'll be a lot of people driving down making

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Speaker 2: the short trip to cheer him on as he's inducted

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Speaker 2: in this year's Hall of Fame class with Jared Allen

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Speaker 2: and Eric Allen and Sterling Sharp, So heck of a

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Speaker 2: class there, a smaller class than we've seen in some

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Speaker 2: recent years, but they can They can range anywhere from

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Speaker 2: like four to seven, so on the short end this year,

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Speaker 2: but still everybody deserving among that crew. We are still

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Speaker 2: taking your questions in the OBL Friday fan mail Bag

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Speaker 2: at eight oh three h five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two five point fifty so you

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Speaker 2: got any question about players. We had a question earlier

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Speaker 2: about Land and Jackson fire away. We'll also take your

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Speaker 2: questions on the tweetsheet at one Bill's Live. And I'm

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Speaker 2: actually going to crack that open right now because I

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Speaker 2: know we had a lot listed there the last time

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Speaker 2: I checked. And Robert asks, could you please explain the

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Speaker 2: difference between the first and second corner. Also, my eleven

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01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: year old nephew is a huge Daustin Knox fan. Do

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Speaker 2: you think he'll get another extension? Really, it's just a

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: pecking order thing. It's not a position or a strategic

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. Necessarily, every team has what they believe

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Speaker 2: is their best cornerback on the roster, and I think

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: at this stage of the game it's pretty clear that

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Speaker 2: it's Christian Benford, not only because of the way he

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Speaker 2: has played, but also because of the salary he is

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Speaker 2: now pulling down after signing the contract extension this offseason.

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Speaker 2: So it's more of a pecking order designation than it

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: is an on the field tactical strategic thing. I mean, tactically,

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Speaker 2: you put your best corner on the opponent's best receiver,

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Speaker 2: and then you put your second best corner on their

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Speaker 2: second best receiver, and so on and so on. So

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Speaker 2: that's really all it signifies.

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Speaker 3: I'd say that's the biggest use case for first corner

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Speaker 3: second corner is your first corner is going to be

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Speaker 3: lining up most of the time around the best wide

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Speaker 3: receiver on that roster.

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Speaker 2: Not all the time. Occasionally you'll have a corner follow

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Speaker 2: that player all over the field, but sometimes and the

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Speaker 2: Bills don't follow very often. They don't zon follows super often. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they usually just stay on their side and play, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of other teams do that too. But occasionally

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Speaker 2: you'll see a team just like Patrick's Artan for example,

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Speaker 2: with Denver, they'll just put him on the other team's

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Speaker 2: best receiver and say, just lock him up for the game.

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Speaker 2: Wherever he goes, but more often than not, corners will

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Speaker 2: play a specific side and stay there for the most point.

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Speaker 2: Most part. For Dawson Knox and an extension, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: We'll have to see. I think he's in the last

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Speaker 2: year of his current deal if memory serves, and I

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Speaker 2: think he turns twenty eight this year, so still, you know,

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Speaker 2: plenty of football left in front of him. I think

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Speaker 2: what the cost is is going to be interesting, and

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Speaker 2: I think what makes it is he just is this his.

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Speaker 3: Last year Matty looking looking at it right now, and.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I'm saying I think it is.

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Speaker 3: What makes it interesting is September two. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's so his contract is up this year,

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: and the other part of the equation that's going to

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 2: make this interesting for the Bills this coming off season

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: is Dalton Kincaid will have completed year three and for

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Speaker 2: the first time he will be eligible for a possible extension,

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Speaker 2: not to mention the fact he could be eligible for

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Speaker 2: a fifth year option that the Bills could pick up

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01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: as well, and that's at the same position obviously, So

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Speaker 2: how do they navigate all that? We'll have to wait

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Speaker 2: and see. But it's just one of the things that

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Speaker 2: will be on Brandon Bean's to do list come the

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Speaker 2: off season, hopefully in late February.

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Speaker 3: On the roster through twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh, twenty twenty six, okay, so he's got two years left.

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Speaker 3: So he has two years left. But one thing that's

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Speaker 3: important to remember about Dawson Knox is last year when

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen was asked about what's a player that surprised

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Speaker 3: you or what's who's a player that stood out, his

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 3: answer was Dawson Knox and how important Dawson Knox is

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Speaker 3: in that locker room.

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: So he's a glue guy, yes, unquestionably.

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01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 3: If you are able to be that on this roster,

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01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: it's a way to continue your career on the same team.

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens if he gets an extension

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: or something like that. They might want to spread out

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01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: his money a little bit, and you can do that

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: with an extension. So maybe he does get one in

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Speaker 2: the off season. We'll have to wait and see. We

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Speaker 2: got to take a break here, but we're taking your

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Speaker 2: phone calls when we returned. Dave in Buffalo, Mark and California,

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: Hang tight, we'll get to you when we get back.

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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by coll Out of Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here on a

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Maddy clab

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Speaker 2: with you, and we're gonna get right to the phones

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Speaker 2: on this OVL Friday fan mail bag, And as promised,

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Speaker 2: we start with Dave in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 12: Dave Greedy's thanks for taking my call. Sure, I had

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 12: a question watching a lot of players being placed on

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01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 12: this and able to perform lists and things like that.

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01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 12: And now that betting is all the rates in the NFL,

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 12: it's nothing that flows to my boat, so I don't

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 12: do it. But honest information is more important to better

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01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 12: than things like that. It's a more willing use of things.

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01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 12: I physically able to perform designations that happened because it's important.

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 12: Now the NFL is embraced betting to get out in

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 12: information about who's hurt and who's not. Before there used

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01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 12: to be a premium and you kept a secret if

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Speaker 12: somebody was hurt, so they would pick on it. But

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Speaker 12: now they're letting it all out and all the information goes.

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Speaker 12: So my question is, what's the relationship between sports betting

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Speaker 12: and economics and designations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the injury designations have been altered

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: or changed in any dramatic way since gambling became a

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: bigger part of the NFL landscape. You know, through all

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: the sports books that now exist online and the league's

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: affiliation with them, I can tell you that there was

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,919
Speaker 2: a time where injury designations for the regular season changed

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: because it used to be you were listed as either out, doubtful, questionable, probable,

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 2: and the league got rid of probable. And they also

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: demanded that you be as specific as possible with the

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01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:22,879
Speaker 2: designation of the injury, like a specific body part, unlike hockey,

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: which just does upper body and lower body. So those

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 2: I believe I have my timeline right. Those changes happened

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: prior to the league making ad deals and the like

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: with sportsbook companies. So these designations that you see here

1450
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: in the preseason, they have always existed in some form.

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01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 2: Some of the rules contained within them in terms of

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01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: when a player can be activated again, for example, if

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: you're on reserve pup or if you put a player

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: on I are now as opposed to after the fifty

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: three man runs is assembled. Those have morphed and changed

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 2: to some degree over the years, but in no way

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01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: have they changed in response to the greater presence of

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: gambling within the sport, If that makes sense.

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 3: It says in twenty seventeen, that's when the league eliminated

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 3: the probable designation from the injury report and then allowed

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 3: teams to designate two players to return from the ir

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 3: list after week eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are the only major changes they altered

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: injured reserve, and again it was before the advent of

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: sportsbooks aligning with the league, with sponsorship deals and things

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: of that nature. So hopefully that answers your question to

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: Mark in California? What's going on? Mark?

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Speaker 13: Hey, how you doing, folks? I really enjoy your show.

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 13: Like I was born and raised in Chief Dwaga. My

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01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 13: stepdad helped build the stadium, went to the very first game.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool.

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Speaker 13: Anyways, I am in Los Angeles. I'm driving down Santa

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01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 13: Monica Boulevard and there is a gigamic Hard Knocks Buffalo

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 13: Bill's billboard.

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01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: There you go.

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 13: That is Oh my god, it's unbelievable.

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like a major day.

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01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 13: Oh my gosh. You know, we get so used to

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 13: the accident attorneys here in Los Angeles and to see

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 13: something like that with you know, Josh Allen and Terrell Bernard,

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 13: who was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: What are you hoping to see with episode one coming

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: out Wednesday?

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 13: I just want to see the camaraderie. You guys talk

1485
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 13: about that so much. I really just want to see that.

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01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a good answer. Mark. Thanks for the

1487
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 2: phone call, and thanks for relaying the message that is

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01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 2: being plastered everywhere across the country.

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Speaker 3: August fifth, at nine o'clock, make sure you guys are

1490
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: at your TVs watch the premiere.

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: I think they will capture a lot of that camaraderie.

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: I think Mark will be very happy to see that

1494
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: because that's kind of some of the secret sauce that

1495
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: has made Buffalo so successful over the last half dozen

1496
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,879
Speaker 2: years of going to the playoffs under head coach Sean McDermott.

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01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: And I think this crew really wants to capture some

1498
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: of that because I think people around the league who

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 2: have not seen it, not witnessed it, have only heard

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: players and coaches talk about it from Buffalo, but they

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01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: haven't experienced it, and this will be as close as

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01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 2: they get to experiencing it. So I think they will

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01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: capture some of that to a great degree in episode

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Speaker 2: one and probably in episodes that followed, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see who they followed on the

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 3: off days because every few days the Bills get an

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 3: off day, they have the day off of practice, and

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Speaker 3: the camera crews do not shut down for that off day.

1509
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 3: On those off days, are there days to link up

1510
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 3: with a position group, or a couple of players, or

1511
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: just one player and go somewhere to do something. So

1512
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: I am very eager to see which players they teamed

1513
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 3: up with to go home, home, to go to an outing,

1514
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: to do a hobby. I can't wait.

1515
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna jump into the mail bag on the tweetsheet

1516
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: side of things here to answer some more of your questions.

1517
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: Lucas asks who is your player to watch on offense

1518
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: and defense in the Blue and Red scrimmage tonight? Do

1519
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: you want to think about that?

1520
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: Do you want me to go first or offense and defense?

1521
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see who do you want to see more of?

1522
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: You know, if Elijah Moore is doing a little bit

1523
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 3: more tonight, I'm looking at him on offense. That's somebody who,

1524
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: like we talked about earlier, wasn't around for a couple

1525
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 3: of practices due to general soreness, and Chris said, so,

1526
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: I'm doing a little bit more in practice yesterday, but

1527
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: not really participating in those team drills. And I'm eager

1528
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 3: to see him participate in those team drills. This is

1529
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 3: a new player on the roster who we think is

1530
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 3: going to have some type of role on offense. I

1531
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: want to see what that role is and how he

1532
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: is gelling with Josh Allen. So that is my offensive

1533
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: player defense, let me think about that. You want to

1534
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: go with the offense estive player.

1535
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:13,480
Speaker 2: I want to continue to watch how Jackson Hawks is utilized.

1536
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: I think he is going to be more of a

1537
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: traditional tight end for the Bills, you know, attached to

1538
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, doing a lot of the dirty work.

1539
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: But I think he's also going to factor into the

1540
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: short to intermediate passing game because so much of this

1541
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 2: passing game operates in the five to fifteen yard range,

1542
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: so I think he can still be a part of

1543
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: the offense that way as well. So I'll just be

1544
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on how he's deployed during the team

1545
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 2: portions of practice. So that's why he's of interest to

1546
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: me because I want to see, you know, now we're

1547
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 2: into the second round of camp, how much are they

1548
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: going to diversify his role? How much more are they

1549
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: going to put on his plate because all the things

1550
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: we've been hearing about him is he's quick as a

1551
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: whip and can pick things up rapidly, which is not

1552
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: surprising being an IVY League read I want to see

1553
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: how many different ways how much are they putting on

1554
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: his plate? So that's kind of my interest level there.

1555
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 3: We shot a tight Ends feature that has not yet aired,

1556
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: but it's get to know the tight Ends. Jackson Hawes

1557
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 3: was a part of that interview with several other titands.

1558
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: We had almost all of them there. Jackson Hawes is

1559
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 3: one serious dude. I was trying the entire interview to

1560
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: get him to crack a smile, and I think I

1561
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 3: was successful just once. And it was funny to watch

1562
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 3: his teammates like Dawson Knox and Dunkin Kaid kind of

1563
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 3: laugh about how serious he was while I was asking

1564
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: these goofy off the wall questions and they're like, that's

1565
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: kind of just what you get with Jackson Hawes. Yes, Yes,

1566
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 3: defensive player that I'm looking forward to watching tonight because

1567
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 3: yesterday had a nice pass breakup and somebody that could

1568
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 3: get some more opportunities throughout the next couple weeks of

1569
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,839
Speaker 3: camp as we wait for Maxwell Harston to get healthier.

1570
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: As the rookie, Dorian Strong, he's been part of the

1571
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: mix a little bit more because Harriston is not practicing

1572
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 3: right now, so I have my eyes on him. Can

1573
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 3: he fight for a backup spot in some sorts on

1574
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 3: this roster. The defensive backs room right now is stacked,

1575
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 3: so those guys are completely battling it out for a

1576
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 3: spot on the fifty three min rochester.

1577
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: He flashed in practice yesterday, so that was an encouraging sign.

1578
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: Now can he stack another day on top of that.

1579
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: That's kind of what's at stake for him. The guy

1580
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: that I wanted to see more of, and with some

1581
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 2: of these injuries, he has been rotating in a bit more.

1582
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: Is Zion log a guy that got picked up and

1583
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: add a practice for him late last year and he's

1584
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 2: getting more snaps with the second group. You know, Dwayne

1585
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 2: Carter was out for a little bit. He came back

1586
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: to practice helmss he but really isn't doing any team

1587
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: stuff yet, so Zion Log's been the beneficiary of that.

1588
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: He's been getting some reps and I think people forget

1589
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: this dude is like six six three twenty. I mean

1590
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: you stand him next to Dion Walker and he's not

1591
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 2: all that different build wise. So I and he got

1592
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 2: some good penetration on a couple of reps yesterday. So

1593
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: I want to see if that extra time on the

1594
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: field inspires him to be even more dominant, because I

1595
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: think he and Walker. You want to you want to

1596
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: load up a goal line package. Put those two guys

1597
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: on the field. Holy cow, I mean gigantic humans, like

1598
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: they're the one percenters of the one percenters, and we

1599
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: know they want to get bigger and stronger on the

1600
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: defensive front to be better against the run. So that's

1601
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 2: another guy that I'm hoping continues to get additional reps.

1602
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: Tonight Ed on the mail bag asks who needs to

1603
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: gear it down a bit and who needs to step

1604
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: it up at today's scrimmage. Gear it down. I don't

1605
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: know that anybody's gonna be doing that.

1606
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: Maybe the injured guys take a break, Yeah, gear it down, but.

1607
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: That means they probably won't even be on the practice

1608
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: field and dressed gear it up. Who needs to step

1609
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 2: it up at today's scrimmage. I'd like to see a

1610
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: little more from Landon Jackson. We talked about he's kind

1611
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: of gotten off to a slow start out of the

1612
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: blocks here through the first week. So I think we just,

1613
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 2: you know, I need to dominate. Let's see him flash

1614
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: a little, Let's see him, you know, make a play.

1615
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: And to your point, I think he has played a

1616
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: lot of rundown stuff in the first week, and it's

1617
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 2: hard to stand out, you know, when you're just setting

1618
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: the edge and the play's running away from you. You know,

1619
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: you're just doing your job. You're doing your one eleventh,

1620
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: this coach says all the time. So I would say

1621
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: him and then maybe Derek Forrest, like he's in that

1622
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: safety mix, but we haven't seen a lot from him.

1623
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him, you know, make a player too,

1624
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: say oh yeah, there's number twenty eight, all right, now,

1625
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: let's see if you can factor into the mix here.

1626
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: And we really haven't seen that step.

1627
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 3: It up for me? Are that's going to be Dawson

1628
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 3: Knox is supposed to be coming back.

1629
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: So will we get team reps?

1630
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: Will we get team reps today? That's the QUI question.

1631
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: If Dawson Knox does get team reps, I want to

1632
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 3: see him out there, and I want to see him

1633
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 3: a part of the plays that they're running. Because we

1634
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 3: haven't seen Knox yet this year. He's not a player

1635
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: that you know, we're questioning how good he is or

1636
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 3: if he will be a part of the offense. We

1637
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 3: know Dawson Knox will, but since we have not yet

1638
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: seen him in any team periods or in any training

1639
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: camp practices yet, I'm looking for him to step it

1640
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 3: up and hey, let's go, it's time practice now.

1641
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to step aside, take a break here,

1642
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: But some final questions to be answered when we return

1643
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by col Out of Health,

1644
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here on One

1645
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: Bill is Live. Chris Brown, Maddi glab with you're going

1646
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: to get to some final questions in the mail bag,

1647
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: and we were up to let me see here this

1648
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: one from Well, we already addressed Land and Jackson, so

1649
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: we'll move ahead to Joseph, who says, at what point

1650
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 2: do we panic about all these injuries? I know it's

1651
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: earily and hopefully most we'll be back within the next

1652
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: week in some capacity, but Harrison and Anderson won't be

1653
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 2: back for some time. Brown with the back and Kaid's

1654
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: still dealing with some knees soreness. Yeah, I mean can

1655
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 2: Kaid's already back in the practice setting, so I wouldn't

1656
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: worry too much about him. Brown was activated off of

1657
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 2: pup yesterday, so if he's not doing everything tonight, he'll

1658
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: be I would assume participating in some capacity. And then yeah,

1659
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: Harriston and Anderson, you just got to wait on But

1660
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: a knee scope is usually a two to four week deal,

1661
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: and some of the rumblings and reports we've seen out

1662
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: there about Harrison is it's going to be about three weeks.

1663
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: So right now, today's August first, you're still five weeks

1664
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 2: away from the regular season opener, so there's time for

1665
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 2: both of those players. You know, maybe maybe they're not

1666
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: playing in the opener, but they'll probably be practicing by

1667
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: then again, so you just got to wait and see.

1668
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: If you look around the league, there are some teams

1669
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: that have lost players for the entire season already. I mean,

1670
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: the Dolphins lost two cornerbacks in the span of four

1671
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: days to season ending injuries.

1672
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 3: That's such bad luck.

1673
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: It is bad luck. And as we know, it's a

1674
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: one hundred percent injury sport, So every team in the

1675
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: league is going to experience attrition to some degree because

1676
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: of injuries. So you just cross your fingers and toes

1677
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 2: and hope the Bills can get through the preseason without

1678
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: losing anybody terribly important for an appreciable amount of time.

1679
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: I'm not panicking right now. The injuries that we do have,

1680
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 3: the ones that are the worst, it seems like just

1681
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 3: a few weeks. If a few weeks go by and

1682
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 3: we know it's going to be a few more weeks, okay,

1683
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 3: maybe then we get a little bit more worried. But

1684
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 3: this roster has depth on it for a reason, and

1685
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 3: that depth can be available week one or week seventeen,

1686
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. That's why so many different groupings of

1687
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: players are playing together and practicing right now, because you

1688
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: never know who's going to be available or not available

1689
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 3: for a game.

1690
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,919
Speaker 2: Barbara asks. Media analysts say that Keon Coleman doesn't get separation,

1691
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 2: but they are thinking two dimensionally. Keon separation is vertical

1692
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: compared to compare the two end zone passes in Seattle

1693
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: do you think his vertical separation is enough to make

1694
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,480
Speaker 2: up for the lack of horizontal separation in two dimensions?

1695
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: I think Barbara might be a wow scientist of some kind. Yeah,

1696
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: I mean there is something to be said for his

1697
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: thirty eight inch vertical leap and being six foot three

1698
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: and being able to outjump defenders for a football, So yeah,

1699
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: he can get separation that way. And I'll say this,

1700
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: I think he's done better with his route running the

1701
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: last two or three practices. And I know I tweeted

1702
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: yesterday just in my brief rundown of camp notes that

1703
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: he is on the ascent here totally. I think he

1704
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: is stacked three days in a row that have been

1705
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: very good. Not dominant, but consistent, and that's what you

1706
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 2: need from him. You just need consistency from him and

1707
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: his athletic ability will take over from there. He will

1708
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: make eye popping plays.

1709
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 3: He had that catch in the corner of the end

1710
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 3: zone for a touchdown yesterday and was blanketed by the

1711
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 3: defender and showcased that physicality and strong hands. And if

1712
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 3: you can do that, then I'm a fan of your play.

1713
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 3: And he's shown that over last couple practices.

1714
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Andrew says, what's your thoughts on preseason games? Do you

1715
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: feel with the extended regular season it's necessary to have them.

1716
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: I feel it should be taken away. Well, it's still

1717
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 2: twenty games in total. With a seventeenth regular season game

1718
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: now and one less preseason game. You have one more

1719
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: game of greater intensity in which your starting players are playing.

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01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: And I think they'll just continue to shorten the preseason

1721
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: the more they lengthen the regular season. But it's still

1722
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 2: twenty games in total as it always was.

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01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, preseason games are very important to this team.

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Speaker 2: When they go to eighteen, it'll be two preseason games.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the return of the Blue and Red Scrimmage tonight

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Speaker 2: if you're going. If you're not, check out Maddi, Glab

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Speaker 2: and everybody else on Buffalo bills dot com with coverage.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you on Monday,