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Speaker 2: episode two of Dirt.

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Speaker 1: Alley's In Case. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 2: American share consciousness.

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Speaker 1: Help me my supper please.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 2: co host mister Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's back on.

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Speaker 3: The streets of the San Fernando Valley off a plane

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Speaker 3: from Des Moyo, Iowasca.

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Speaker 4: It's your boy, Miles Gray.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the zeitgang in Iowa, Des Moines shot

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Speaker 3: on alex at Raygun. Shout out everybody who came through

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Speaker 2: I was on a I was on a call video

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Speaker 4: They got real rivers.

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Speaker 2: They just got water, like they don't even have to

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Speaker 1: Because we live in a city that wasn't meant to

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Speaker 7: Truly, like like so relaxing about being in a place

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Speaker 7: that is meant meant to be lived where vegetation grows

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to like stop and just like

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Speaker 1: It is humid as ship through in Iowa.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was in Japan or some ship.

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Speaker 1: It's the humidity is not a joke though, But anyway,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me Iowa.

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Speaker 4: I had all. I had all the local food. I

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Speaker 1: I had crab Rand Goom pizza.

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Speaker 3: I had I ate case's, the gas station and everything

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Speaker 2: A Crabrand Gooom pizza does get it. Like the thing

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Speaker 3: You gotta have the crab Rand Gooon pizza from Fong's pizza.

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Speaker 3: I said, Fong, Oh, is this like some some Chinese people,

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Speaker 3: some immigrants over this. Nope, Nope, just people with a vibe.

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Speaker 3: They just went for a vibe here. They had very orientalist.

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Speaker 1: You saw a movie with the name Fong get at once,

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Speaker 1: one of those cats that's like waving.

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Speaker 1: No, it was like, I'm like, that's Japanese.

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Speaker 3: Interesting but anyway, otherwise, so fucking yeah, wonderful, wonderful, great time.

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Speaker 2: Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by one of

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Speaker 2: our favorite guests and award winning writer favorite guess.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, baby, just wait till the other guests here

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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't give you my iPhone to give you

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Speaker 1: You came through. So my cousin Malwood has it right now.

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Speaker 3: I go to restaurants, I take people's I I just

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Speaker 2: Hey man, stop, I need to introduce you. Stopping Bob

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Speaker 2: the president of the Arab and Middle Eastern Journalists Association.

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Speaker 4: You might have seen his work in places.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know, CNN, The New York Times, m PR, GQ,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Showman. Is my It's funny. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have to be right.

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Speaker 4: You just I don't know you reported on it?

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Speaker 1: Did they say I did report on it?

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Speaker 1: I'm famously known for respecting the culture. Yeah, so much

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Speaker 1: cool ship. Bro Let me let me show you this.

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Speaker 1: This is my book. Yeah, it's finally here. I have

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Speaker 1: a real copy. Congrats. That must feel good. It's a

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Speaker 1: July eighth. July eighth, everybody mark the calendar. And you're

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Well everybody should go check it out, go

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Speaker 1: Somewhere that's not Amazon. And you guys are the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? This is this is why I love coming on

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Speaker 1: at them. You gotta like, you got to be in control,

438
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Speaker 1: and you gotta here's some here's some paper towels. Man's time.

439
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have that moment where the road forks off

440
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Speaker 3: and like, do I act out my childhood right now?

441
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Speaker 4: And then you're like no, no, no no no no no

442
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Speaker 4: no no.

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Speaker 1: I'm like okay, So, okay, So here's the thing. We

444
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Speaker 1: don't throw spaghetti on the floor or at me and

445
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Speaker 1: my nice white tea. Okay, So I understand you want

446
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Speaker 1: to play, but that we have to eat our food.

447
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 3: There's so many times where I realized too reflexively, I

449
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Speaker 3: want to just be take ship personally from a toddler

450
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: to like having to really cauterize. That sort of reflex

451
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: has been again an exercise and being like present and

452
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Speaker 3: really trying to be zen about it, like like.

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Speaker 1: You know, the tiger does as the tiger does, you

454
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, And we cannot expect anything less

455
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Speaker 1: and it's really freaking hard to do. Man. Yeah, like

456
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Speaker 1: the first time your kid's gonna punch you in the

457
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Speaker 1: face and it happens really really young. I got smacked

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Speaker 1: up arty right before recorded. I got two peas by

459
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Speaker 1: my son. Yeah. So yeah, man like feeling things and

460
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Speaker 1: being in touch with their feelings important. Yes, do that,

461
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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Being able to control yourself. So yeah, yep, man,

462
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Speaker 1: you guys are better at parenting.

463
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Speaker 2: I will be get like in my feelings, have my

464
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Speaker 2: feelings hurt, but then I will immediately be like, all right,

465
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that was supid, immediately let them know that

466
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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: Guys. Sorry.

468
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Speaker 2: I love admitting that I'm wrong, and they love me

469
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Speaker 2: admitting when I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: You're like modeling for them regulation of your emotions, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's really valuable, right because yeah, they're going

472
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Speaker 1: to see it, and they're going to feel it, and

473
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Speaker 1: they're going to feel it with you, and then you're

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Speaker 1: going to show them and they can hold it back. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: What's What's something you think is underrated?

476
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Speaker 1: I've been really wanting to scream about this for a

477
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Speaker 1: long time. Journalism. Journalism is so underrated right now. It's

478
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Speaker 1: driving men everywhere I look. There's so many people and

479
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Speaker 1: influencers and it drives me nut to people just like

480
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: shitting on the media. And I get it, like I

481
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: get where it's coming from, because there's a lot of

482
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Speaker 1: bad news out there and there's a lot of people

483
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Speaker 1: doing a bad job at doing journalism. But at the

484
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Speaker 1: same time, if you can hold that thought with another

485
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Speaker 1: thought that I want to share with you, which is,

486
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Speaker 1: this is the only time in history where big outlets

487
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Speaker 1: like The New York Times, like CNN, like BBC all

488
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Speaker 1: have people from the communities working on stories about those communities.

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Speaker 1: It's literally never happened before. Right when I got into journalism,

490
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Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago, I still felt like the only

491
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Speaker 1: Arab in journalism, and that's sort of the reason why

492
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get into that space in the first place.

493
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Speaker 1: But now I'm like president of an Arab journalist association,

494
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Speaker 1: and there's so many of us. There's we're literally everywhere.

495
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Speaker 1: We're doing shitty out in all kinds of way. It's plains, plains,

496
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: but like it's insane, And I love the fact that

497
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Speaker 1: you can reliably when you want to learn more about

498
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Speaker 1: the LA protests against ice from like a couple of

499
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: weeks ago, if you want to learn more about it,

500
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: you could literally go on the La Times website and

501
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: read an article written from an immigration reporter who's doing

502
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Speaker 1: interviews in Spanish, who herself comes from a Spanish family

503
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Speaker 1: and is on the ground talking to you know, like

504
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Speaker 1: that kind of journalism is unheard of, yeah, like twenty

505
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Speaker 1: thirty years ago. And I get the instinct to be like, nah,

506
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Speaker 1: fuck the media, they're so racist. Oh they're platforming all

507
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Speaker 1: these things. They're responsible for Trump. We would have Trump

508
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: if not for Xyz. I get that, sure, But we

509
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: are still in possibly the great the golden age of journalism,

510
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Speaker 1: and people are missing it because all they want to

511
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Speaker 1: do is talk about how bad the journal how bad

512
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Speaker 1: journalism is right now, right right, Yeah, journalism isn't like

513
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Speaker 1: the police, you know what I mean, Like there are

514
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Speaker 1: good actors, be.

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Speaker 3: A you know, I don't know about that, Yeah, I

516
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: think they really infuriating thing too, is usually television news

517
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: because that has is like such a huge, huge effect

518
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Speaker 3: on people's perceptions.

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Speaker 1: And like in LA they ran back some old ass

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Speaker 1: footage again, like on like NBC.

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Speaker 3: Four that was pretty just like very disingenuous, like old

522
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Speaker 3: burning car footage and trying to connect that to what's

523
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: happening now, And you're like, this is this is absolutely reckless.

524
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Speaker 3: But I totally get that. I mean, like it's because

525
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Speaker 3: so much of the good stuff that we're able to

526
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Speaker 3: even talk about comes from journalists like you and other

527
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Speaker 3: people who are actually, you know, very dedicated to reporting

528
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Speaker 3: on being objective and telling the truth rather than shying

529
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Speaker 3: away from like will my objectivity be seen as biased

530
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Speaker 3: or politicized?

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Speaker 1: And in my community, in the Muslim in Air community,

532
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Speaker 1: there was this big streak of people being really angry

533
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Speaker 1: at the news media for saying, for quote unquote, manufacturing

534
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Speaker 1: consent for the genocide of Palestine. I get that. At

535
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Speaker 1: the same time, the only reason we know about what's

536
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Speaker 1: happening as it's happening, is because of the journalists in Palestine, right,

537
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Speaker 1: So when you're talking but like the media sucks, you

538
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: gotta be specific, you know, because so much happening in

539
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Speaker 1: that space. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm definitely guilty of just overall being

541
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Speaker 2: like focusing on the negative when yeah, there are good.

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Speaker 1: Reporters doing good work on the ground. For sure, I

543
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Speaker 1: forgive you, and that's what you've been forgiven by by journalism.

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Speaker 1: Hell ye, I was looking to get out of that.

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Speaker 1: Thank God. Just do a couple of hell Anderson Cooper's

546
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Speaker 1: and you're good. Yeah, No, he's not. He's like the

547
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Speaker 1: merry figure in our community, all.

548
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Speaker 2: Right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

549
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Speaker 2: And we're back, and the world is still trying to

550
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Speaker 2: grapple with Zorimumdani's victory in the New York Democratic primary.

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Speaker 2: I mean, mainly the Democrats seem to be at a

552
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Speaker 2: crisis point, having been forced to confront an incredibly promising

553
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Speaker 2: path forward. What are they supposed to do?

554
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Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? Folks have a focused

555
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Speaker 1: campaign on things like the economic issues that hit everyone

556
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Speaker 1: and articulate a way to deliver on that as a politician.

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Speaker 4: What the fuck is this guy trying to doom so

558
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Speaker 4: far as of disrecording.

559
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Speaker 3: The one high profile New York Democrat to see the

560
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Speaker 3: bigger picture and get.

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Speaker 4: Behind Zoren is Jerry Nadler.

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Speaker 1: Jerry, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't. I didn't think that was

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Speaker 1: in Jerry Nadler's bag, but it is. He's Yeah. I

566
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, wait to read the room.

567
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Speaker 4: Jerry Schumer Jeffrey's crickets mixed with.

568
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Speaker 3: Handwringing over their very intentionally skewed view on his stance

569
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Speaker 3: on civil rights AKA, they don't like that he is

570
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian Senator Kirsten gillibrand my goodness, so last week

571
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Speaker 3: she fully lost it on the radio when a caller

572
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Speaker 3: named Gabe phoned into like a New York talk radio

573
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Speaker 3: station to spread a bunch of misinformation to paint Zorn

574
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Speaker 3: as like an anti Semite. The call almost felt like

575
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Speaker 3: it was scripted and that this person calls in says

576
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Speaker 3: a bunch of lies to smear him, and like as

577
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Speaker 3: like some kind of person held like trying to be

578
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Speaker 3: like Zorn is going to destroy the Jewish community in

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Speaker 3: New York and then the world. And then she just

580
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Speaker 3: went on and yes, ended that shit, this is like

581
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a portion of like his. This

582
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Speaker 3: guy had a huge monologue he did before he actually

583
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Speaker 3: the senator actually responded. He said, quote, how do we

584
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Speaker 3: make sure that Jewish institutions are protected from his plans

585
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Speaker 3: to punish and find our institutions which fundraised the medical

586
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Speaker 3: nonprofits which do work both here in the United States

587
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Speaker 3: and in Israel and other countries in the world.

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Speaker 4: And also, how can we hold.

589
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Speaker 3: Mister Momdannie accountable for his glorifying association of Hamas and

590
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Speaker 3: other terror bombings of the Intefada in nineteen the nineteen

591
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Speaker 3: nineties where over one thousand Jewish as railies were killed

592
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Speaker 3: to his revisionist Holocaust knowledge, just went.

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Speaker 8: On, just fired, rattled off a bunch of shit, to

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Speaker 8: the point that even before Gillibrand could chime in, the

595
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Speaker 8: host was like, now just to caveat this senator, that

596
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Speaker 8: was a lot of that was a lot this man

597
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Speaker 8: just said.

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Speaker 3: And there it potentially could be inaccurate because we cannot

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Speaker 3: fact check that in real time.

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Speaker 4: And she was like, Okay, I don't care. She just

601
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Speaker 4: went on to go. This is her response to that quote.

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Speaker 3: The caller is exactly the New York constituents that I've

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Speaker 3: spoken to.

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Speaker 1: That are alarmed.

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Speaker 4: They are alarmed by past public statements.

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Speaker 3: They are alarmed by past positions, particularly references to global jihad.

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Speaker 3: My sweets, I've heard that one before. Yeah, exactly. That's

608
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Speaker 3: one of the most you know, worn out attacks on him.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 3: The hosts again forced to clarify live on air quote

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Speaker 3: on mom, Donnie, I just feel compelled to say, we

612
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: can find no evidence that he has supported Hamas or

613
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Speaker 3: supported violent jihad.

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Speaker 1: Good on you. So then he then asked entator Chili Bran,

615
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Speaker 1: can you she rolling Stone reached out after that.

616
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Speaker 4: And was like, uh yo, what's up. What's up with

617
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Speaker 4: that answer on the radio?

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Speaker 3: It feels like chock full of misinformation that you just

619
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Speaker 3: it felt like an APAC word salad uh that she

620
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: responded to to her office said that she misspoke and

621
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Speaker 3: is looking to clarify things with Zorin Mamdani, which feels

622
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Speaker 3: like politician talked for Look, this is what that APAC

623
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Speaker 3: money does to your critical thinking skills, you know, reflexively

624
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Speaker 3: reflexively being anti Palestinian.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of part of the gig.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is kind of what we were expecting,

627
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Speaker 2: but it's it's even sloppy for like what I was

628
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Speaker 2: expecting from the demo. Yeah, like a little like saying

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Speaker 2: global jihad.

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Speaker 3: Again, let's clarify, right, because this is one of the

631
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Speaker 3: most distorted quotes out there that they used to attack

632
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Speaker 3: Zorin Mamdani, the famous globalized the Intifada again, a ridiculous

633
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Speaker 3: distortion on what he actually said and what he means.

634
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Speaker 3: So this is from an interview, said, this is where

635
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Speaker 3: it comes from this interview where he's asked, does that

636
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: just make you uncomfortable? Like the phrase globalizing Intafada and

637
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: like the phrase from the river to the sea. Does

638
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: that make you uncomfortable or do you think And Mumdanni answers, Okay,

639
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Speaker 3: those are different, those are super different. The interviewer says,

640
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Speaker 3: they're not really Mum Donnie says, those are like different genres. Interviewer,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm asking so wrong. Then they're not really

642
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Speaker 3: different to me, and to some people they are not different.

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Speaker 1: This is where Zoran really clears it up.

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Speaker 3: So please get this tatted on your forehead if you

645
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: need it to be cleared up for you.

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Speaker 4: Quote.

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00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: I know people for whom those things mean very different things.

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00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: And to me, ultimately, what I hear in so many

649
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights and

650
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: standing up for Palestinian human rights. And I think what's

651
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: difficult also is that the very word has been used

652
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Speaker 3: by the Holocaust Museum when translating the Warsaw Ghetto uprising

653
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Speaker 3: into Arabic, because it's a word that means struggle. And

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Speaker 3: as a Muslim Man who grew up post nine to eleven,

655
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Speaker 3: I'm all too familiar in the way in which Arabic

656
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Speaker 3: words can be twisted, can be distorted, can be used

657
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Speaker 3: to justify any kind of meaning. And I think that's

658
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Speaker 3: where it leaves me with a sense that we need

659
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Speaker 3: that what we need to do is focus on keeping

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Speaker 3: Jewish New Yorkers safe, and the question of the permissibility

661
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Speaker 3: of language is something that I haven't ventured.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom bo.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm scared. I'm scared for my friends in New York.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, right, he said, damn, he's advocating for human rights.

665
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Speaker 4: And again this is he handled it like a probe.

666
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Speaker 3: So he went on meet the press, and Christian Welker

667
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Speaker 3: also had to do sort of like the establishment democrat

668
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: sort of grill session, like going line by line. The

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Speaker 3: first one was like, so this is what Welker said.

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Speaker 3: Trump called you a communist?

671
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Speaker 1: Are you a communist? From Dani? I am not.

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Speaker 3: And I already have to get used to the fact

673
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Speaker 3: that the president is going to talk about how I look,

674
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Speaker 3: how I sound, where I'm from, and who I am.

675
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm fighting for the very working people that he ran

676
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: a campaign to empower that he has since betrayed. I

677
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: call myself a democratic socialist in many ways inspired by

678
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Speaker 3: the words of doctor King from decades ago, who said

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Speaker 3: call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There must

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Speaker 3: be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's

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Speaker 3: children in this country.

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Speaker 1: He's already so communist.

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Speaker 2: That sounds I'm gonna mar I'm just gonna mark that

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Speaker 2: down as communist.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what that sounds like is communist.

686
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Speaker 3: Then she asked if billionaires deserve the guillotine. Oh wait, no,

687
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Speaker 3: that's my writing. She asked if billionaires should be, like,

688
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: if they're okay, should they exist? Another fantastic answer, clearing

689
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Speaker 3: it up because there's so much fear mongering of.

690
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Speaker 4: Like what does that mean? This is his answer.

691
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Speaker 2: You're gonna make them walk the ice like in the

692
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Speaker 2: dark Knight Rises.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist?

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Speaker 9: I don't think that we should have billionaires because, frankly,

695
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 9: it is so much money in a moment of such inequality.

696
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 9: And ultimately, what we need more of is equality across

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Speaker 9: our city and across our state and across our country.

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Speaker 9: And I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires,

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Speaker 9: to make a city that is fairer for.

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Speaker 2: All of them.

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Speaker 1: Hmmmmmm. Can't argue with that.

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Speaker 2: And when he said work with did he make a throat?

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Speaker 1: No, not at all, all right. I was just shout

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Speaker 1: at all. Sure, sure was.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't crack and he's knuckling up when.

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Speaker 2: He said that, I mean work with billionaires.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think anyone who saw that interview

708
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Speaker 3: would really have a hard time convincing themselves that this

709
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Speaker 3: guy was some kind of like rabid freak that wanted

710
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Speaker 3: to destroy New York.

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Speaker 1: Scary.

712
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Obviously I have a different take because I agree with

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Speaker 3: what he's saying, but he comes off as someone who

716
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: cares very deeply about his city, and like, you know,

717
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: but that, unfortunately is going to stop the people like

718
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Speaker 3: Christian Welker and the people like Hakim Jeffreys who continues

719
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: to be like he needs to actually clarify to globalize,

720
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Speaker 3: even like where are.

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00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: The statement that it's coming from? Is him clarifying? Yeah,

722
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: explaining it? Like there's no reading of that quote in

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Speaker 2: context that hasn't already been clarified for you.

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Speaker 1: What's what's amazing about it is that this has all

725
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Speaker 1: been litigated already for the past like twenty years. Like

726
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Speaker 1: all of the time between now and nine to eleven

727
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: has been spent going over the same talking points over

728
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Speaker 1: and over and over again, Right, like this word you haead.

729
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Speaker 1: I feel like at this point people understand what it means.

730
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Speaker 1: They know that it's not specific to violence. And there's

731
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Speaker 1: like this this concept in Islam of like the greater

732
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Speaker 1: ghead being the the energy had. So when you're going

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Speaker 1: to therapy, you want to know what you call that

734
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Speaker 1: in Arabic, So it's a little bit of a gehead,

735
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Speaker 1: you know, and this idea of like.

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Speaker 2: We also don't like therapy, by the way, on the

737
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: on the right, we were not fans of that. That's

738
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Speaker 2: how Devil's work.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely not going to therapy. I heard of

740
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Speaker 1: that guy said it was Did that just ruin therapy

741
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: for everybody?

742
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 5: No?

743
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Speaker 1: Definitely not.

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00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: For everybody on the right friendly line who already wasn't

745
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Speaker 3: going to try and sort out their own emotional trauma.

746
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Speaker 1: And why they acted out. Do you remember when like

747
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: Obama was a candidate and they were like warning that

748
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: he went to a madras up, which is just the

749
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Arabic word for my dress up. And remember when that happened,

750
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I go to a mad dress so

751
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: this is just fucking normal. But it still took off

752
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: like an entire news cycle. So it feels like, they

753
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: don't really have anything on Zohoran other than the fact

754
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: that he's a Muslim guy. But I think they're banking

755
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: on that, and they're hoping that at some point he's

756
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: going to slip up and they could take whatever news

757
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: clip excerpt to back up their own their predetermined claims

758
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Speaker 1: about him being the scary back guy who's going to

759
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: like exterminate a population in New York City for some reason.

760
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: And because it's worked, right, it's worked in the past,

761
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Speaker 1: I mean not that long ago. I remember Inland Almud.

762
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Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on the show, how

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Speaker 1: Almud out of context was like saying something about like this,

764
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Speaker 1: people say some people did something when describing about how

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of nine to eleven touched the lives of

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00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: every single Muslim and American beyond, and they that had

767
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: so much, so much power behind it, and it had

768
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Speaker 1: so many legs that it's still something that comes up

769
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Speaker 1: to this day when people on the right thing about Almard,

770
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Speaker 1: do they remember that comment and they go, oh, yeah,

771
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Speaker 1: she actually does. She downplayed nine to eleven, And so

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Speaker 1: I think what they're trying to do here is they're

773
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Speaker 1: just throwing shit at the wall. They're just trying to

774
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: see where he's going to slip up. But the fact

775
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: that he hasn't already, I think it tells us two things. One,

776
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Speaker 1: he's been down this road before exactly he grew up

777
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: in this grew just like yeah, yeah, these people have

778
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: just been like introduced to the darkness. This guy was

779
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: born born yeah.

780
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

781
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: And there he Aiman is comparing him to Babe, who

782
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: is the person who made the stockbrokers walk on the

783
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: frozen river that they talked about on the NBC of

784
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: the day after victory. The messages are there read between

785
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Speaker 2: the line he's.

786
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Speaker 10: He's gonna be on the radio and he's gonna be like, well,

787
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 10: I want you to have a free boss ride Jesus

788
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 10: and they will be they will be on time.

789
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Speaker 1: No.

790
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Speaker 2: The other storyline I'm seeing that is also I feel

791
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: like a little I don't know that there's a lot

792
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: of reporting that has turned this into the wind is

793
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: the win is about his talent and like it's it

794
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with his position. It's like he's

795
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: a very talented politician and that that's what happened, and

796
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: he won in spite of his left wing positions and

797
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: in spite of his like that that's what how the

798
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: economist wrote it up. And they were like but still

799
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: like he's going to lead to the Democratic Party deeper

800
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: into the wilderness with these positions, Like, yeah, it was

801
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 2: a nice win for him, but you know who else

802
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: was happy the next day. Republicans and their fucking chops

803
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: over here.

804
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Speaker 1: Dude, they got themselves a new op they can go after.

805
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I think in order to believe that, you have to

806
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: completely ignore the fact that when he started his campaign,

807
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: he started in districts in New York City that went

808
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: for Trump. Yes, so these were Democratic strongholds. These were

809
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: places where everybody voted Democrat. It wasn't even a question.

810
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: But then the last election, something went terribly wrong and

811
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: a lot of districts in New Jersey, in New York

812
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania that were traditionally Democratic strongholds went for Trump,

813
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: which should make everybody go crazy. Trying to find the solution,

814
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Zoran did something which is surprisingly peculiar in the political

815
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: spaces which he showed up and he started talking to

816
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: people on asking them and looking for the Trump supporters

817
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: and asking them, Hey, what about this policy you care

818
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: about affordability? Would you vote for somebody who believes in

819
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: X Y Z and they were like, yeah, hey, you'll

820
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: have my vote if you do this, and that's where

821
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: his campaign starts. And I don't know, it's just it

822
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: drives me nuts how the American politics in general, left

823
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Speaker 1: and right, have it yet figured out that they're there

824
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: to serve a populace, not the other way around. Pole, Yes, yeah, yeah,

825
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: And we saw it in the last election with Donald

826
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Trump and Kamala Harris where it felt like the Democratic

827
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: agenda was we need to get people on board with Biden,

828
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Speaker 1: we need to get them on board with Kamala Harris,

829
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Speaker 1: where their entire elector at poll after Pole was showing

830
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: that they were losing people because they weren't talking to

831
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Speaker 1: them and they weren't incorporating them and inviting them into

832
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: the big tent. And we saw how that played out.

833
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for somebody like Zorn because he

834
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: seems to get how to fix the democratic institution. And yeah,

835
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Speaker 1: it's just I feel like they're going to come around.

836
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: They're still kind of freaked out because he was able

837
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: to do it without them, and he was able to

838
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: see the institutionalized supported candidate in Cuomo, who even then

839
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: they they call him a bully, like they didn't like him,

840
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: but they backed him because he had the name. And

841
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: so I feel like they they're going to come around.

842
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna take some time. This probably wouldn't

843
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: be the case if he was just like a white

844
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: guy from Staten Island. But you know, he's he's a

845
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: brown guy and he's Muslim, and he's not afraid of

846
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: apologizing for it, and so I think it's going to

847
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: take a little bit of time, but I think they'll

848
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: come around.

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Speaker 2: I did have that thought what would be happening right

850
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Speaker 2: now if he was a white guy, they'd be just

851
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: like finding something else about him or just like really

852
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: going hard on his politics or something.

853
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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to like see how they treated

854
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, right, Yeah, they love talking about Bernie Sanders,

855
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: they love supporting him, They like putting him in front

856
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: of the camera. The thing that they don't like about

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00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is him becoming president. But you know, or

858
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: they'll they do the thing where like he's supported by

859
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of like terrorist sympathizers.

860
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: Is probably what they do.

861
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Is like they you know, how they made like a

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: pejorative Bernie bro kind of attacked like, and these are

863
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: the fucking people that like this shit, I don't know,

864
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: is this for you? That's their base? Like I think

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00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: that's the part that they don't understand. It's like, this

866
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: is where the Democratic voters are going. Yeah, and so

867
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: you need to keep up with that. You need to

868
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: be able to understand who your supporters are, what exactly

869
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: your party wants, and then create the platform, not the

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00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: other way around.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why this is so important that like

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Speaker 3: it's the it's the generation of the Zoran type politicians

873
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: that inherit this party if the party has any chance

874
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: of surviving, because if they keep doing the thing of

875
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: trying to just you know, bludge in a candidate like this,

876
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: to try and curb their ability to achieve office because

877
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: they're going against like the establishment, it's just we're gonna

878
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: have the same thing over and over. But the one

879
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: thing that's heartening is their attacks are so fucking tired

880
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: that they're just like they come off as really like ineffective,

881
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 3: like the things like well, you know he's Muslim.

882
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: So uh uh They're like, yes, so what.

883
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: His credit? Because I've interviewed him a couple of times.

884
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: To his credit, he hasn't yet or I don't even

885
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: think he will, because it doesn't even seem like it

886
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: feels like it's maybe beneath him. But he hasn't even

887
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: mentioned to the fact that like half of his staff

888
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: is Jewish, right. He's like he's working with people who

889
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: are Jewish, and you're out here saying that he wants

890
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: to kill them, Like it doesn't make any sense. And

891
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm like sitting there wondering, like all he has to

892
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: maybe do is like say, hey, I'm actually part of

893
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: my staff, Like in order to reach out to me,

894
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: you have to go through somebody who is Jewish, right

895
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: to talk to me. And I'm almost like I kind

896
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: of credit him for that because it's not relevant, right,

897
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: It's just like I'm not doing it because I'm like,

898
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, how like a you know, a Democrat, Like

899
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, half of my staff are black people. One

900
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: of my very good friends bad luck, right.

901
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean when he's say you're like, well, okay,

902
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: but again, I used to get lunch with a racist

903
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: and then I would get lunch with a black man

904
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: and he was he was in a duop a cappella barbership.

905
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: No, man, this is this is different than like corn pop.

906
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: This isn't much different.

907
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 4: But I'm saying no.

908
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: But I'm saying I think the reason is because what

909
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: he stands on is so much bigger, Like it's it's

910
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: almost impervious to that kind of attack because its like

911
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: what his messages resonates so.

912
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: Deeply across the board with people. And it's not because

913
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: he's done this thing like a polished candidate biers like, okay,

914
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: you need to have like people of color that are

915
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: like visible understaffed. He's like, no, man, I'm here to

916
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: deliver for people. And guess what the other people that

917
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: are with me, they this is just this is the

918
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: crew that I have and it's diverse, it's broad.

919
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: It represents so much of the city. So you know what,

920
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: Stephen Miller is Jewish? You know, like that's like that

921
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: That's my issue with that whole like defense being like,

922
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: how could we be support this administration? Yeah, be anti

923
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: semitic when the architect of all the xenophobic raids is

924
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: a Jewish man.

925
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: It's just it just bothers the hell out of me

926
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: that this is the line of attack. Yeah, no, just sure,

927
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 1: it bothers the hell out of me. And it's a trope.

928
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: It's an Islamic Islamophobic trope in and of itself, and

929
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: I wish that we had grown out of it as

930
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: a company.

931
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think that's the one thing you really realize, right,

932
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: is the US. The US is just addicted to Islamophobia,

933
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: like it cannot even when it makes no sense at all,

934
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: Like I puts decades past nine to eleven and the

935
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: the like the fucking horror that is unfold in the

936
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: Middle East because of US foreign policy. This still has

937
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: this like reflex like, well, we need someone that everyone

938
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: can have, like they won't think critically and be like, oh,

939
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: this brown person is Muslim, so therefore I don't have

940
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: to think anything of like I don't have to really

941
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: interrogate this any further because the shorthand reflex is equals bad.

942
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: But I think, again, that's starting to eroad. You know,

943
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: It's just it's not it's this isn't like twenty ten.

944
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: But I know for some people it does.

945
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: Work like that, and people are susceptible to that kind

946
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: of sort of rhetoric and propaganda. But there is something

947
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: because he's he's speaking to something so much deeper.

948
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: It's it's just irrelevant for so many people.

949
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to see how far we've come

950
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: as he goes against famous nine to eleven authority mayor

951
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: Eric Adams, who you know pointed out that the great

952
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: thing about New York City one day you're opening a

953
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: business the next day nine to eleven, you know, and

954
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: so you never know what's gonna happen, and that's why

955
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: we love this town.

956
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: It almost feels like this is a calculated way to

957
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: like try to drag him into the dirt, because yes,

958
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 1: when you put it like that, it makes me feel

959
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: like it's a trap, like they want him to like

960
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: have to constantly defend his record as a Muslim person. Yeah,

961
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I've seen a little bit of it.

962
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: He's sort of like in this weird position where they're

963
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: constantly asking him about like this global you had Global

964
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: into father thing. But I from the clips that I've seen,

965
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: at least, he's done a pretty decent job of saying no, no, no,

966
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: here's what here's the policies that I care about. He'll

967
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: just like pivot into actually his policy. So, yeah, it's

968
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: an interview your position to be in man. It sucks.

969
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 4: Of course it sucks.

970
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 3: I think being a person of color who's not towing

971
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: the line of a party and really trying to deliver

972
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 3: for people, aka just rocking the fucking boat, they're fucking

973
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: They're gonna come at you with everything you know every time,

974
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 3: and that's just. But again, I think, like to your point,

975
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: even as he you know, somebody who has grown up

976
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 3: in post nine to eleven America, being a Muslim man

977
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: in America, you have already you already know how to

978
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: navigate the stupidity that exists in American society. He's trying

979
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: to make you look a certain way, and you have

980
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: already spent decades of your life having to prove your

981
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: humanity to people who don't give a fuck about you.

982
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: So I think he's That's why I think he's never

983
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: looked shook when he has these interactions, because I think

984
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: it's the.

985
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: Same way like black people.

986
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: When white people want to be like, well what about

987
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, what about the violence in your communities, people

988
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: go nah. People who are used to hearing those attacks

989
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: and go, okay, I know, I see how you look

990
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: at the world, and that's not actually how it is. Okay,

991
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: because what you're what we're not talking about is the

992
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: larger picture about inequality and what that does to our communities.

993
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying is a distraction.

994
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: And he's he's seems very polished, you know, as like

995
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: an organizer and politician at this point that it's would

996
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: it would probably take something so inflammatory and offensive to

997
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: try and get him to sort of wobble like that.

998
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: But again, he seems very he's very adept, and he

999
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: seems like he's built. He's built for this moment.

1000
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, truly born in the darkness of is long the archism.

1001
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, y'all, just fucking play with it, you

1002
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

1003
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe maybe a bane man. I don't know,

1004
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: like I was born in the darkness. And honestly, my

1005
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: only issue with his uh, I think he's a little

1006
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: too nice to billionaires in that in that statement. I

1007
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: think he should be like, and you know, we'll see

1008
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: how did they ice skate.

1009
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: The camera ice skate?

1010
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: See how they do on the icy rivers of the

1011
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: East River.

1012
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean?

1013
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Maybe Nancy Kerrigan for some

1014
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: lessons my boy.

1015
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if if he really wants to be popular,

1016
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break.

1017
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: We'll be right back, and we're back.

1018
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: And big weekend at the box office for F one

1019
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: F one, big big hit. M threegan two point zero

1020
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: not so much as we and three game threegan.

1021
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the three Gans weren't They weren't feeling how much

1022
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: How many moneies did M threegan make?

1023
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: M Threegan made ten million as a domestic the first

1024
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: one made thirty was like a big surprise hit. He

1025
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: made seventeen global, so that although to be fair, only

1026
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: cost twenty five million dollars to make. So I'm sure

1027
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: it's going to get a nice approving headline from Deadline

1028
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: like they did, like the opposite of what they did

1029
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: for Sinners, right. They were like, this might look like

1030
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: a hit to you because.

1031
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: It made more money than it costs to make by

1032
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: by orders of magnitude, does not mean this is a hit.

1033
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 3: I don't know, Ryan koog I don't know where Ryan

1034
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: Coogler gets as like the.

1035
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: Tone of those articles.

1036
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, had an article about the biggest most exciting box

1037
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: office success of the year, the thesis, where does this

1038
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: guy get off. Yeah, a big news for the Hall

1039
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: of Presidents. That's a usually like that's where I rushed to.

1040
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: If I take my kids to Disney World, we're rushing

1041
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: right to the Hall of Presidents, to the Hall as.

1042
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly is it.

1043
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 4: One of the is it one of the first things?

1044
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: Like is it set up like how Disneyland is, Like

1045
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: when you go through the gates you're kind of in

1046
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: that like main street area, so then you can go

1047
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: to the Hall of President's right, or you have to

1048
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: seek that?

1049
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: Is it right there? I think you have to seek it.

1050
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: I've never been.

1051
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: I would never go in anyway could possibly And I

1052
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: think we walked past it and it was like fucking

1053
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if maybe this was when it was

1054
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: closed for but it like tumbleweeds. I was like, oh,

1055
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: they have tumbleweeds for the old West Town. They're like, no,

1056
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: that's an actually occurring.

1057
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Those are real tumbleweeds.

1058
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: It was not a popular attraction, but that's just because

1059
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: they had the old Trump that looked like really legitimately

1060
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: looked like they had made the Hillary Clinton animatronic and

1061
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: then had to like last second be.

1062
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: Like fuck yo, somebody get a blow dryer, so we

1063
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: can mop the face a little bit and turn it

1064
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: into a Trump face and getweight.

1065
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: Stat just looked like a Hillary Clinton if she had

1066
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: like on a latex mask trying trying to pose as

1067
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Donald Trump for like a you.

1068
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: Know, it's like Hillary Clinton doing Frank Havoc from I

1069
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 3: think you should to my ship.

1070
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: Exactly Clinton havoc energy. But yeah, now so they've replaced

1071
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: that with a more accurate Donald Trump. Just like more

1072
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: jolly essentially is what they did. Just gave me more droopy,

1073
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: more droopy or jals and the same exact outfit and kind.

1074
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: Of smell here, yeah.

1075
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: Vision yeah, yeah, yeah, fresh diapers, and.

1076
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: I feel like there's no way he doesn't smell like

1077
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: hot right, like just they say no, people say he stinks.

1078
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: They say, people say he smells like cooked hot dogs.

1079
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: You know, he smells like wet ones. He smells like

1080
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 4: boo boo.

1081
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, they say it was like this entire

1082
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: expos his producer on the Apprentice, and they went into

1083
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: depth with some of that stuff. I mean, I wasn't

1084
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: in the room. I can either conform nor deny. All

1085
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: I know is that some people are saying he has

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Speaker 1: the hugest, biggest, most beautiful poops.

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Speaker 2: And you are saying, many are saying, can't control his

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Speaker 2: battle movements.

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Speaker 3: And Adam Kinsinger also said it. In the run up

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Speaker 3: to the election. I remember, like on Kimmel he was

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Speaker 3: like this guy, he said he was pungent, pungent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, those are the big updates.

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Speaker 1: Kind of makes you feel bad for him a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, I feel so bad for him. Actually, that's

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Speaker 2: what It's kind of what keeps me up at night.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the whole point of this show is

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Speaker 1: we want to just generate as much sympathy for Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump as possible.

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Speaker 2: The c I a seemingly left leaning thing that we

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Speaker 2: just secretly seed people with sympathy for Donald Trump, and

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00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: how difficult it must be. It's all the pictures of

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Speaker 2: him have in the background, the bad guy from the

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00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: painting and Ghostbusters too. You see, Yeah, looks looked like Vigo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like who what.

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00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: President looked like? That clearly was before fucking cameras, this

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Speaker 2: guy in as Hell.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be if you want to be president back then,

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Speaker 1: that's true.

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Speaker 2: You just have to be an evil warlock most like

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Speaker 2: the Number one.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't buy that whole honest ape thing.

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Speaker 1: That guy who's President of the United States, that guy

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Speaker 1: was a thug.

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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 1: He's like, he's do your thing, Sherman, fu up Georgia

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Speaker 1: for me. Boy.

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Speaker 2: There's another show we're working on that we got some

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00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: research in on like Abe Lincoln, and like one of

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00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: the anecdotes was him just like ripping on the this

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Speaker 2: guy who worked for him, like for being Irish, Like

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Speaker 2: you like.

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Speaker 1: Just like I know it, I know it American.

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Speaker 2: You got to eat a piece of fruit that like

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Speaker 2: wasn't edible. He was like, he's like, yeah, have you

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00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: ever heard of like a fig?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: I mean you should try it. This tree has like

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Speaker 2: the best figs. It was like not a fig tree.

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Speaker 2: And then the guy was like spitting it out and

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Speaker 2: You're like, what like Lincoln's in the back just laughing as.

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Speaker 1: Irish iribe Abe.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Amen, truly a pleasure having you on this podcast.

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00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: As always, Where can people find you?

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00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: Follow you?

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00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: Uh, find out more about your book all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: You could follow me on Instagram at aman dot com

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Speaker 1: spelled do t c O m A y m A

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Speaker 1: and then do O T c O N. Also you

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Speaker 1: can find me on AMAN dot com, A Y M

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Speaker 1: A and N dot com literally to any of your

1141
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: favorite bookstores. And one of these guys up holding up

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Speaker 1: the book Beautiful Blue. You got to find the Beautiful

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Blue big beautiful blue book. And while we're on the

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00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: subject of like zoron and stuff, I feel like I

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00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: should really want to understand the psyche of somebody who's

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00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna grow up post nine to eleven. Yeah, and then

1147
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: become confident enough to be on meet the Press and

1148
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: run for mayor you should start on reading this book,

1149
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: which is about my life doing the same things, except

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: not all of the things, but yeah, some same things

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Speaker 1: go out everybody. Thanks. Man.

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Speaker 2: Is there a work immedia that you've been enjoying.

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00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I've really been enjoying that show Adults on Effects. Oh see,

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: I've not seen it. It's like really silly, funny. It

1155
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 1: almost feels like a sitcom. It's the kind of show

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00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: you can watch with somebody and then like do references

1157
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: from afterwards. It feel good, it's cute. Yeah, Yeah, that's

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00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing that I want to do

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00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: after a hard day's work of looking up MTG tweets

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Speaker 1: on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I've seen the billboards, I have not

1162
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: seen the show, and this is the first recommendation I got.

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00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: So just ten more recommendations to go and I'll check

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Speaker 2: an episode now one day. Actually yours counts for like five,

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: so I need a few more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder if, like, I like it a

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00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: little bit more because I can't do any of the

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: things that they're doing, like going out and having a

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: social life, right, you know, the things that you lose

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: when you become a parent. So I don't know. Maybe

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00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm living vicariously through them. But it's silly. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: There's this scene where they're trying to like sell a

1173
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: gun but they can't. It's super good. It's a cute show.

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Speaker 4: Miles.

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Speaker 2: Where can people find you as their workI media you've

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Speaker 2: been enjoying.

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00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.

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00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: You probably missed the last episode ever of Miles and

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00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: Jack got mad mosties.

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Speaker 4: I won't be saying it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to check it out. It's over, but

1182
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: you know what it is. What it is. We will

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: come back in some other iteration. I mean, it's not

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00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: like we're any We've gone anywhere. There's this show so.

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Speaker 4: You guys just not here us talk about basketball as much.

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00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: There also find me talking about ninety d fiance on

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Speaker 3: four to twenty Day fiance.

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Speaker 1: A couple of works of the social media.

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Speaker 3: I like first one at Sunday Divine the Sky do

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Speaker 3: Social says I love the energy of mom Donnie, but

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Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't try to socialize brunch.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that's just don't cross that line. Don't

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Speaker 1: cross that don't don't touch that third rail. And this

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00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: is like an Onion headline from a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: that I don't think I talked about and I just loved.

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Speaker 1: It's like a woman with like lovingly nestling, nestling like

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Speaker 1: nuzzling with a predator drone and it says, grieving war

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Speaker 1: widow finds comfort in the wings of drone that served

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Speaker 1: with a husband. Correct fucking the Onion. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, Brian

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky Jacko b the Number one. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 2: to tweet from Bonanza parentheses. Miffy tweeted, do you want

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Speaker 2: to touch knees?

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Speaker 1: Later?

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Speaker 2: While we're sitting down and pretend to ignore the fact

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Speaker 2: that we're touching knees that riding a train, that's riding

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Speaker 2: a train, that's sitting at a cafe that doesn't have

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Speaker 2: enough room for that. You're just trying to like cram

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Speaker 2: in one too many seats.

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Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't ever account for knees.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, and my, my wolbly ass weird knee etiquette.

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Speaker 2: I got bad knee etiquette.

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Speaker 1: Is that you just jab your legs for my knees

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Speaker 1: of a mind other people's knees. Yeah, check me. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Do you think you hard? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at

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Speaker 2: daily Zekest, the Daily Zekeist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: You can go to the description of this episode wherever.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to it, and you can find the footnotes,

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Speaker 2: which is where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 2: we talked about today's episode. We also link off to

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Speaker 2: a song that we think you might enjoy, mild Is

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Speaker 2: there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, if you like Toro Ey Moah Chazz from that

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Speaker 11: band also, you know, puts out some nice electronic dancing

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Speaker 11: music too. And this is a track I want to

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Speaker 11: go out because I was listening to this and I

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Speaker 11: didn't realize who this artist less sins was and it's

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Speaker 11: Chatz from Tori Moa so l E S s I

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Speaker 11: N S.

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Speaker 1: The track is called Grind and it's just again it's summer. Look.

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Speaker 1: My dad sent me this.

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01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 5: Quote from like a Guardian article about like like to live,

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Speaker 5: as Young said, with two existing opposite thoughts at the

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Speaker 5: same time, and survival right now depending on our ability

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Speaker 5: to swim in this duality.

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Speaker 1: So I use music to keep my.

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Speaker 3: Joy up, to keep my joy activated, and so I

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Speaker 3: like music like this.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gives me a little you know, honey

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Speaker 1: in my hips, makes my big toast shoot up in

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Speaker 1: my boots. So this is grind by these scenes.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, all right, We will link off to that

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Speaker 2: in the foot notes. Todaily the Zeitgeist is a production

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Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: w ap Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 2: favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.

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Speaker 2: But we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,

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Speaker 2: and we will talk to you all then, Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 1: The Daily zeit Geist is executive produced by Catherine Long,

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01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: co produced by Bebe Wang co produced by Victor Wright,

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Speaker 1: co written by j m mcnapp, edited and engineered by

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Speaker 1: Justin Conner,