1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: All right, here we go spreading the court. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Ten seconds of matings. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna just go throw up to the basket, under 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: the basket, it's the truth for the wind. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: A miracle. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: I just chuck the water. Hit that one from the 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: parking lot. What's up the generation? Welcome to the Big 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Bets on Campus Podcast presented by bet MGM. This is 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: the Conference Tournament betting Preview Park four. I'm stucky in 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: joining me for this episode. My main man, Mattie Cox 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: our a leadoff hitter on Big Bets on Campus Live. 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Today we are going to cover the PAC twelve, the 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Mac and the Mac. So get your acronyms right, Mattie, 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: what's going on? Brother stuck? 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: Great, let's naac to start us off. And mister Ricatino 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: and the boys of there in in a neuro show. 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Let's start there. 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't too happy in his in his interview 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: postgame interview, they survived Rider yesterday and if you one 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: of the interesting things about the Mac and I own 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: is clearly the favorite. Here we pull up the the 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: most recent odds that I can find is a minus 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: two hundred Quinnipiac is plus four hundred, Rider plus eight hundred, 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: Siena ten to one, and then you're down into some 26 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: longer shots. Niagara forty to one, Fairfield forty to one, 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: kenets Is fifty to one, Mount Saint Mary's one hundred 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: to one, Marist one hundred to one, Manhattan and Saint 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Peter's as well. This tournament will be played Tuesday to Saturday. 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: Tuesday through Saturday in Atlantic City. The top five seeds 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: i own A, Niagara, Rider, and Quinnipiac get a buy 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: into the quarterfinals on Wednesday, and Sienna Niagara will have 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: to play Thursday. Iona gets to play the winner of 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: Mount Saint Mary's Canisius on Wednesday, so they'll get an 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: extra day before the semi finals. I think the most 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: interesting part. I think i OWN is clearly the favorite 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: for a reason, and they're the best team I think 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: since February first on Torvik. They're like the twenty seventh 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: RANC team and they edmin news and events lately, so 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: that that day in between the quarterfinals and semifinals could 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: be important. But if you look at their potential path 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Sienna and Niagara have been on, I mean they've just 43 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: been plumbing, they've been on losing streaks. They look for 44 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: that's the four or five game and the potential opponent 45 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: for I own in the semifinals if they get by 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: the winner of Mount Saint Mary's Canisius, which is the 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: eight to nine game. And I think a lot of 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: teams in this bracket have to be happy that those 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: two teams are playing each other because those are two 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: of the hotter teams in the entire bracket. So is 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: this just an Iona coronation? They have Rider looming in 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: the bottom if they couldn't face them until the championship. 53 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: Ryder beat them once this year, just played them twice again. 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: They beat them last year in the MAC tournaments of 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: Ryder has a lot of confidence playing Iona. Can they 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: get through to the championship and will Iona survive? What 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: do you see here from an overall MAC perspective, from 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: the futures, Yeah, I. 59 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Mean it's a double sort of a conference to bet on, right, 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: there's just so much volatility on predictability. You mentioned that 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: web side of the bracket is kind of loaded, just 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: given it has Iona and it has Sienna, and well, 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's it's just Iona's You know, lopsided part 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: of the bracket, but the team I like actually is 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: Mount Saint Mary's one hundred to one. I know they 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: have to go through Iona team and get to the semis, 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: but they've just been a different team since they've gotten healthy. 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: They DeAndre Thomas, who just returned recently. 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: They had Jamen Benjamin their best player who's out for 70 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: a good chunk of the year. And I think Englstad's 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: a really good coach. I think that's a team that could, 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: you know, potentially, if you're looking to make a portfolio here, 73 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: I think you would take Mount Saint Mary's in conjunction 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: with Iona from the left side and then on the 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: right side. I'm kind of in on Rider. I mean 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: the fact that they played Iona twice now hyper competitively 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: the last year, dating back to the MAC semi, the 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: way that talent's finally playing up to its level. They 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: actually have some resistance upfront now. I think Rider at 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: eight to one is maybe my second favorite bet here, 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: besides about Saint Mary's as a hill, Mary, do you 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: like Iona at two to one? I feel like that 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: sounds oh sorry, you're laying you know, minus two hundred. 84 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: That feels like a. 85 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: Little bit too steep a price to pay, even though 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: they are on kind of a cushy side of the bracket. 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's you're right in that the winner 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: of the eight to nine. It's not a great draw 89 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: for Iona because of how well both Canecious and mount 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: are playing. And I mean if you look at Mountain, 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: they played Iona lost by what, they lost by twelve 92 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: at home and they lost by thirty on the road. 93 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: It's not a great matchup because they turned to go, 94 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: which isn't great against Iona, who wants to obviously pressure 95 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: you under Patino. Cancius does a much better job of 96 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: taking care of the ball. Cansius, for what it's worth, 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: lost by one at mount and lost by four in 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: a semi home game. So that's going to be a 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: really good game. But yeah, I don't think there's much 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: value in the really interesting part, you know, because if 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: they could just get by that eight nine, I think 102 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: they ultimately will. But you know, if you like Malt 103 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: or you really like Canecius right now, it could be 104 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: worth a fire because that four or five, like you look, 105 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: since February first on Torvik, I know, as I mentioned, 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: is number twenty seven nationally. The Cancius and mount which 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: is the eight nine game or one ninety seven and 108 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: two point fifteen respectively, Niagara and Siena two eighty nine 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: and two eighty three. 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: Yes, that class makes no sense to me. It really doesnt, 111 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: because they actually on one healthier down the stretch here. 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: So I wonder if they've been kind of mailing it 113 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: in before the conference. So maybe we actually see the 114 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: Saints play to the level we saw them early in 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: the year. But I'm with you, maybe the form is 116 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: just too you know, the knife's falling too hard that 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: that that this is really what they are at this 118 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: point in the year. I guess to your point, if 119 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: you like Iona in this, I would pair it with 120 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: the Mount Saint Mary's plyer, just to give yourself that 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: upside as a hedge. I'm not as in on the 122 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Caniesious surge, but I do think that Mount Saint Mary's 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: price is a little bit It's just a little bit, 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 3: you know, it's astronomically high for a team that actually 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: has real upside and in a tournament that who the 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: heck knows can happen as we saw last year, as 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: we've seen many times before. 128 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's actually pretty good. 129 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Look, yeah, let's see, you're right, Siena. It doesn't make 130 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: it any sense now they do turn it over lot. 131 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: They beat Iona earlier this year at home by seventeen 132 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: and that kind of marked like the peak of Sienna, 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: and then later in the year on the road they 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: lost by thirty three, and to close out the year 135 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: they lost five and a Rothery lost to Quipiac, Ryder, Iona, 136 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: Manhattan and Saint Peter's. Now, to be fair, they lost 137 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: a quip back by three, Ryder by three got blown 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: up by Ion, I lost by one to Manhattan and 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: then lost in overtime to Saint Peter's by one. So 140 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: they've been close and the talent is there, but yeah, 141 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: the form isn't. I ultimately think Iona Iona gets out 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: of this, But I don't see any value of minus 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: two hundred just because of how well Canecious and Mount 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: Saint Mary's are playing right now. So it's not as 145 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: big of a cupcake as you would normally see in 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: the mahack. You know the two hottest teams in the 147 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: eight nine, and then you know your four. Sienna still 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: has a lot of potential in rdybat Iona and then 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: they got to if they get through that, you might 150 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: have to go against Ryder, who you know, three straight times. 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: They've won two of the last three meetings and the 152 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: other one was a two point game to close out 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: the season. Anything to add on the bottom half. Now, 154 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: it's worth noting that Ryder, as the two seed, doyn't 155 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: play on Wednesday the winner of Fairfield Saint Peter's and 156 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: then they get a day off, whereas the three seed 157 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Quinnipiac plays on third against the winner of Manhattan and Marist. 158 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: So in order for Quinnipiac to win sort they'd have 159 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: to win three games in three days, the same with 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Sienna and Niagara. I like that. I like that in 161 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: this format that the one and two seed get an 162 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: extra day off before the semis. Now, Quinnipiac did sweep 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Rider during the regular season, and they do have a 164 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: deep bench, so maybe that won't hurt them as much. 165 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Quinnebeck or any any first round matchup 166 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: or potential matchup down the line that Better should be 167 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: potentially looking out for. 168 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: I think in general the writer Quinnipiac potential semi matchup 169 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: is a live Better's paradise, just for hearkening back to 170 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: what happened in the regular season. Quinnipiac games are just 171 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: known for crazy swings. They don't protect them all that well. 172 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: They can be very erratic, but their offense can get 173 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: red hot too, and Ryder kind of has that volaile 174 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: nature as well. 175 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I'll be looking to live bet. 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: That game in the form of betting whoever gets down 177 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: early if those two teams do square off. But yeah, man, Ryder, 178 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: you're right with that day off advantage, that's usually a 179 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: pretty big edge you get the one day versus back 180 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: to back against Quinnipieck. I think Ryder actually has a 181 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: pretty you know, safe ish path here to the title game. 182 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: And I think they're real, Like I really do. I 183 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: think that's a real team. 184 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: Even an eight to one, that's probably that's my favorite 185 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: bet on the right side of the bracket. I think 186 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna look to back rider though, just against 187 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: the spread against Fairfield Saint Peter's who it comes out 188 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: of that one, and then roll it over again against Quintpea. 189 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: Probably a little better value than taking the eight to 190 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: one at the future price. 191 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I would mention with Ryder now 192 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: they're comfortable in the half court, which I like in 193 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: a tournament setting. They you know, could take care of 194 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: the ball enough. They're great on the offensive glass, so 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: even if they have an off shooting night, they don't 196 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: really shoot threes, but they do give up a ton 197 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: of three. So there's some high variants in that aspect. 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with that. I think we're going 199 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: to see We're ultimately going to see a chalky Mac 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: and unprojecting rider Iona rematch in the final. And I 201 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: don't mind. I don't mind them mount long shot and 202 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: pairing that with Iona. All right, good stuff there. Yeah, 203 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: Quinnipiac is known, but by the way, for just this year, 204 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: they've blown a number of leads, like if they're up 205 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: in the in the second half, and yeah, you're right there. 206 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: They are a they play fast, they're very good, and 207 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: they cannot shoot free throws like so it's they're a 208 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: team that can really let teams back in the game quickly. 209 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the PAC twelve. Let's 210 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: head out West Back twelve tournament will take place between 211 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: Wednesday and Saturday and Paradise, Nevada. Team Mobile Arena UCLA 212 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: is your one seed and looking at it right around 213 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: even odds plus one ten I think I'm seeing out there. 214 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: Arizona is the two seed going around plus two to ten. 215 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: USC comes in next to a three seed eight to one, 216 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: and then you know, I find this next group pretty 217 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: interesting if you want to maybe target, like for example, 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: if you look at Torvik, he makes UCLA if you 219 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: simulate it plus one fifteen Arizona plus two fifty USC 220 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: ten eleven to one. I don't see any value in 221 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: the top three teams. So then it comes down to okay, 222 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: can Oregon has been super inconsistent, but they have a 223 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: lot of talent. You know, you have Altman as a coach. 224 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: They're sitting at twelve to one. I don't I you know, 225 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: if you do a money line rollover, it looks like 226 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: it'll be right around there for what it's worth from 227 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: based on my power rankings. Can they put it together? Though, 228 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: Like they've just been so inconsistent all year. Arizona State, 229 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: we've seen them compete with the top teams in the conference. 230 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: They beat Arizona, they're fifteen to one. For what it's worth. 231 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: Tordick has a at forty to one. I think if 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: you do a money line rollover based on my power 233 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: it is you'd be at like thirty five to one. 234 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: So based on their path, I don't see any value 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: that they'd have to play organ State than USC, than Arizona. 236 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: You know, Washington State was to a coin flip game, 237 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: then Ucla, then Arizona if the chalcolds, yeah, Arizona State, 238 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: Oregon State probably be you know, close to ten point favorite, 239 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: then USC, then Arizona, then Ucla. I mean if the 240 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: chocolate that's a gauntlet for Arizona State sitting at fifteen 241 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: to one, then you have Washington State twenty one. This 242 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: is a team that I had circled coming into the 243 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: German of pre odds. You know, their pathmy Cal Oregon 244 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: and then potentially Ucla and Arizona. You know, based on 245 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: my add to be like twenty to twenty five to 246 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: one if you do a money line rollover. This is 247 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: a team that like they have a ton of talent, 248 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: they lost a ton of close games, and then you 249 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: have Utah. Like Colorado lost their point guard for the 250 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: for the season, Simpson, he's out for the year, which 251 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: is worth doing. And then Utah, who Colorado just beat, 252 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: just got healthier, right, So what's their come back at 253 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: point and then Mattson came back, which is on paper enormous, Yeah, enormous. 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: They before he got hurt her Torvick, they were twenty 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: eighth overall in the country the day before he went out, 256 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: since then one hundred and thirty seventh, right, So that's 257 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: more than one hundred point drop or a hundred team drop, 258 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: I should say. But can they get him assimilated into 259 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: the offense. Can they build enough connectivity in that lineup? 260 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: Their potential path would be Stanford, which is not a gimme, 261 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: then Arizona, then USC then Ucla at the chalkholds and 262 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: they're sitting at twenty five to one. Torviick has them 263 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: at fifty to one high in a money line rollover, 264 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: I projected a forty to one ish, so and then 265 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: you know Colorado just lost their point, got forty to one, 266 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: and then you're down into Washington Stanford one hundred to one, 267 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: and then the dregs of Oregon State, Stanford and Cal 268 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: have no chance. So how do you see this playing 269 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: out in that kind of mid group? Is there anything 270 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: any team worth taking a flyer on? 271 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: That's I think the values you talked to the last 272 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: few teams Washington State and Utah. I like how you 273 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: broke down the money line versus the futures price. I 274 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: think Utah is the better play to go money line rollover, 275 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: But if you're going to play a pre flop future, 276 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: I think Washington State's your best bet. I think they're 277 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 3: rolling right now, had a ton of injuries. You mentioned 278 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: how they're you know, haven't been greating close games, actually 279 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: a two year trend with Kyle Smith, who I perceive 280 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: as a really good coach. I do think it's gotten 281 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: actually unlucky, not that they've just been poor and LA 282 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: came execution. I think the difference between Utah and wash 283 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: State is right that first met that you know, Cal's 284 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: a layup right, But Stanford you could see as being 285 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: that weird, annoying, talented dark horse team that makes a 286 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: run that could trip up Utah and you know, clip 287 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: your legs there early if you bet them on the future. 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: So again, I think Utah and Washington State are the 289 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: best value Utah money line rollover, Washington State pre flop 290 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: future with the layup round wanting itainst Cal a team 291 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: they match a well with an Oregon who I think 292 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: people are misperceiving as a as a dark course just 293 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: because they have the organ name across the chest. This 294 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: version of Oregon, I just don't really buy into making 295 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: a deep run. I know Orgon run made that run 296 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: was at twenty nineteen they beat washed the one seed. Yeah, 297 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: so last twenty nineteen Oregon one is a sixteen to 298 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. Oregon State won it as a five seed, 299 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: is that right? And then last year is Arizona UCLA 300 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Arizona prevailing. So there's a precedent for teams out of 301 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: this first round Wednesday slot making it all the way 302 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: through Washington State. Like I said of cald and Oregon, 303 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: they've already taken uculated the wire loss, but I one 304 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: at home and they've already beat Arizona handily on the road. 305 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: I did just think they match up well with the 306 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: best of the best in this conference. The theme in 307 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: this entire league all general has been interior front lines 308 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: rule to day. It's been an awesome underleague all year. 309 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: So just in general, I was seeking, like we want 310 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: to try and maybe take a macro total at lens 311 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: of betting this. You know, it could be the continuation 312 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: of the regular season Underzel we saw so profitable. But 313 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: from a future's perspective, Washington State's my horse. I like 314 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: the Utah luck, but again I have a good money 315 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: line rollover round by round with them. 316 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, you mention in Stanford, which 317 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: is obviously a much tougher first round matchup than you know. 318 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at the odds here, what Utah 319 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: is in Utah Washington State around the same price point. 320 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: And you know, Utah would have to go through Stanford 321 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: and Arizona to get to the Semis, whereas Washington State 322 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: we'd have to go through cal and Oregon. That is 323 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: a much easier path, and Utah I would have I 324 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: would have preferred if you know, they got Madson back, 325 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: maybe a couple more games ago, right, instead of just 326 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: one game ago. It obviously didn't have that. You know, 327 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: you don't expected to take a couple of games. You 328 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: saw that with Justin Moore and Villanova, so that you know, 329 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: it might be tough for them to kind of put 330 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: it all together and find their form from when they 331 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: were healthy earlier in the calendar year. So yeah, I agree, 332 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: it's all it's all about Washington State here, shop around, 333 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: not every book has odds out right now, so I'm 334 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: going to shop round for Washington State. I would love 335 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: to get like a twenty five or thirty to one, especially, 336 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: but I saw twenty to one out there earlier. But yeah, 337 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: this is the team that can put it all together. 338 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: They're very comfortable, like they're very comfortable in the half 339 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: court right and sometimes these conference tournament games come down 340 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: to more of a half court style, which might hurt Arizona, 341 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: which loves to live in transition. They also shoot a 342 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: ton of threes and can make a ton of threes, 343 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: which is what you like from a dark horse with 344 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: that three point variance. If they get hot, right, they 345 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: can beat any team in this league. So yeah, I 346 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: think it's Washington State. We're on the same page. 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Let's 381 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: see this will which should I should introduce the conference 382 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: or so MAC Tournament takes place in Cleveland, Ohio. The 383 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: top eight teams make it. Kent State is your favorite 384 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: at plus one point fifty bed Toledo, which became the 385 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: first team in MAC history. I believe to win the 386 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: regular season championship outright three years in a row. Akron 387 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: at plus five hundred, and you have Ohio eleven to one, 388 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: ball State fourteen to one, Buffalo twenty five to one, 389 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: and then you know you're Northern Illinois and Miami much 390 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: longer shots. Don't think they really have much of a chance. 391 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: But maybe you disagree and are looking for a long 392 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: shot here. I just hope, you know, we really should 393 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: get Kent State Akron part three in the semis of 394 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: Kent State takes care of NIU and Acron takes care 395 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: of Buffalo, which they both should. And that is a 396 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: very contentious rivalry. Those teams hate each other. They've had 397 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: some really fun close battles over the past two years. 398 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: Your last regular season, you know, Kent State winning and 399 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: talking shit to the Akron fans. Then the videos, the 400 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: suspensions in the MAC tournament and Akron just rolled them, 401 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: and then they split this year, with Akron recently losing 402 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: in overtime at Kent State, although that game should have 403 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: never went to overtime. It was a really bad call, 404 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: but Kent State for battle overtime, so that should be 405 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: your semi. And if you look, you know, and then 406 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: you're saying, all right, well, Kent's plus one fifty Akrons 407 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: plus five hundred, and that game probably will be. I mean, 408 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: Kent State was minus four at home, Achron was minus one, 409 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: minus two at home. It gives me close to a pick, 410 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 2: so that the dichotomy in those odds is very interesting. 411 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 2: Then on the top of you of Toledo, who is 412 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: not the favor even though you know Kemp State's favoriteven 413 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: though they'll probably have to go through Akron, so you 414 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: don't wat to face Miaue, Ohio to start in the 415 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: one eight matchup, then face the winner of ball State 416 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: and Ohio. There are questions about I mean, ball State 417 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: is a lot of talent. Are they going to be 418 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: fully healthy? They've dealt with some injuries, injuries down the stretch, 419 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: So let's start on the bottom half. Do you agree 420 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: it's Kent State Achron in the semis? Do you think 421 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: either one of those teams is vulnerable to an upset 422 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: in the first round? 423 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: Now, the matchups worked out well for both teams, I 424 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: mean Akron and Jordan Macjeski's talked about this, how Akron 425 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: is just a nightmare matchup for Buffalo right the way 426 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: they grind it to a half court Buffalo is lost 427 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: in the half court. 428 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: The only can storing transition. That's just like the theme 429 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: with Buffalo. 430 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Gross is awesome at Gross is awesome in 431 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: this tournament, I think is Dorothy has been one of 432 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: the better coaches. Obviously his Noble Ohio run before he 433 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: did the boomerang back to the to the mackt at 434 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: Akron and again that match with Buffalo. I think they 435 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: move on easily. I think Ken State picks off a 436 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: brittle and IU team who I loved on the stretch. 437 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: They had a bunch of fun shot makers. I think 438 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: people realize how good they were against the number for 439 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: a few weeks there, But Kent State I think moves on. 440 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: You're right, I think value wise, I'm looking at Akron 441 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: here because why is the dichonomy between those two. 442 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: So far apart. 443 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: I would lean Akron if you're looking to take someone 444 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: out of the bottom half, and it's probably the best 445 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: bet on the board from just a pure futures perspective, 446 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: because Toledo, while their odds are appetizing, given the fact 447 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: that they both they avoid both Kent State and Akron, 448 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 3: and they're also going to probably line up with the brittle, 449 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, injured ball State team in the second round. 450 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: They've just been so bad in this format, and you 451 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: can argue that's circumstantial. I think there is some real 452 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: signal to the fact that they're built to play. You know, 453 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: they're built to beat bad teams very well. They don't 454 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: necessarily rise in competition consistently. I know they have this season. Obviously, 455 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: the UAB game to start off the year gets people's attention. 456 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 3: You know, they've beaten Kent State this year, but in 457 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: this format last six years, Toledo is two and ten 458 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: against the number, not covering by an average six points 459 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: a game. They've famously flammed out early on last year. 460 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: They had the DISASTERUS shooting, free throw shooting facility that 461 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: really doomed them. I don't know. I kind of think 462 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: there's something to that. Honestly, where I'm looking at Kent 463 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: State or Ohio actually at eleven to one Jeff Bowls, 464 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: great coach. I think they're just kind of slept on. 465 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: They've been covering by an average of two points a 466 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: game in the last seven years or six years in 467 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: this format again catching Ball State first round. 468 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: So I look at. 469 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: Ohio eleven, twelve to one, whatever you can find, and 470 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: then Akron at five to one. 471 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you mentioned, I mean at Buffalo wants 472 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: to play as fast as possible. I think they're top 473 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: fifteen in adjusted tempo. Akron wants to grind the game 474 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: to a complete haul, and I think they're outside the 475 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: top three hunderd Justine. They control the temple, they keep 476 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: buffalout of transition into it. They won both regular season games, 477 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: I think by twenty whereas Kent State, I think they 478 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: only played Northern Illinois once and they lost. It was 479 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 2: on the road, they lost by ten. And you know 480 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: they should be a double digit favored here. But Akron, 481 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: I think they both have good matchupes. But I think 482 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Accrod is a better matchup in the first. 483 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Round relative matchup, Yeah, I agree with that. 484 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're getting them plus five hundreds. So and 485 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: if it is Accrod in Kent State, which I expected 486 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: to be again, I expect that game once again to 487 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: be a war like so having five to one in 488 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: your pocket in a game that, yeah, I mean could 489 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: be Acroton could have swept them in their last three games, 490 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: including a meeting in the conference tournament. So I think 491 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: that's where the value is for this tournament. I think 492 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: that they should be shorter anything from a matchup perspective 493 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: in the first round. Are we watching ball State injuries 494 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: or down the line that you have targeted for the Mac. 495 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ballston injuries are huge Jern Coleman, but it also 496 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: paint sparks. They're big as now and fully healthy, and 497 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: I've gotten some bench guys to step up, you know, 498 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: but it's just still a team I like a lot, 499 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: but I like the fully healthy version, especially with that 500 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: tough matchup against Ohio, a team I still think a 501 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: little bit undervalue. 502 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: People are kind of sleeping on them, and and. 503 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: I you, I think if you're a real dark horse, 504 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: that people continue to disrespect what they did down the 505 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: stretch there, even with the injuries they had. 506 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: They brought in some kind of unknown. 507 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: Juco Studs David Koyd, Zerik Nutter, and it's one of 508 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: those you know, ewing theory candidates right better auditioned by 509 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: some tracks, and they lose Keishan Williams. People thought it 510 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: was their best player and they've just been better without 511 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: the point. 512 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: You know. But I think first round you had to 513 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: check injuries for and I. 514 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: You to make sure they're fully healthy. Looks like they 515 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: were last game, so you're probably safe there. 516 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: Uh. 517 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 3: And then ball State as well, huge if if Coleman's 518 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: out kind of strips them of their senior, you know, 519 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: point guard, floor general, which you're gonna need obviously in 520 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: this format. 521 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to shop around for ball and 522 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: then you can get word or know that they're going 523 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: to be fully healthy, I mean, presumably is a team 524 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: that wasn't going to get it at large, so they're 525 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, I was surprised they actually played Sparks down 526 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: on the stretch, but they you know, they played Toledo 527 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: without Coleman, they lost by six. They played Acron on 528 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: the road before that without Coleman, lost by four earlier 529 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: in the season. Is a team that beat Akron at 530 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: home by seven, they won on the road at Toledo. 531 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: So if they're fully healthy, they're definitely intriguing at fourteen 532 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: to one. Just from a talent perspective, they would you know, 533 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: they play Ohio in the first round. I think they 534 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: only met one Ohio one at home. But a fully 535 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: healthy ball state I would like over Ohio, although that 536 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: spread probably will be around around. 537 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: A coin pick. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. 538 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff there. To summarize the mat, I 539 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: think it's going to be chalky about it. I don't 540 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: see any value in Iona if you want to take 541 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: a flyer. Maddie likes the Mallet and pairing them with Iona. 542 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: Very unique bracket in that the four verse five teams 543 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: are been plummeting while the eight nine, which is Iona's 544 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: first round the winner that will play on the first 545 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: round are the ones that are surging at the end 546 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: of the year. I think it will end up being Chalky. 547 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't really like anything there the PAC twelve. We're 548 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: on the same page Utah. If you want to, you know, 549 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: if you see that they're healthy, you could even start 550 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: a money line roll over in the second game to 551 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: see what you know, what happens at the first game Utah. 552 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Game by game for sure, yep, yep. 553 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: And then but I think Washington State is the futures 554 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: bet to make pre tourney. And then in the MAC, 555 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't think that Akron is getting enough respect here 556 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: against uh you know, whereas Kent State and Toledo, I 557 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: think they're right, They're right there. There not that much 558 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: of a difference between these teams, and they have a 559 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: really really favorable first round matchup. So I think Akron 560 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: from a price perspective, would be the look there. And 561 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: then you know, Ball stayed if they're healthy might have 562 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: some value throughout the tournament, but tough to gauge as 563 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: of this moment. And yeah, you mentioned Toledo struggles in 564 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: this format. All right, good stuff, Maddie. That'll cover three. 565 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: We will have I'll have four more coming up with Kai. 566 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: Check out that episode Part five, and then four more 567 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: with Jim. Will be recording that tonight. That's part six, 568 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: and then we'll be doing four more in the morning. Colin, 569 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: we'll be doing the SEC. I'll talk a little Ivy. 570 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: We will have bj talking the Big ten and Mike 571 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 2: Calvary's talking his beloved A ten, which if you can 572 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: figure out the A Tenah, God, good luck, happy in 573 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: that conference, Maddie, thanks for joining me. Is there any 574 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: other final notes or final comments on anything you could 575 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: talk about anything we just talked about, or is there 576 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: another conference that you're like, I got to get this 577 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: out for a future. No. 578 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm in on the Kogs, go Azoo, Kyle Smith and 579 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: Data eight. It's it's been a long time come when 580 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: I think they're going to knock on the door of 581 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: potential of a postseason run. Hey, if they don't, they'll 582 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: be a great bet in the or the c I 583 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: or n I see whatever they end up qualifying for 584 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: as they were not sure, so that you had that 585 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: as your back pocket if they don't actually make this 586 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: deep run in the pact. 587 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: Attorney all right, Yeah, that's the key takeaway of the episode. 588 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: We are all kubes get through Washington State future in 589 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: I will have one and let's get it done. 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