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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode of the PSD podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is Your Girl Ebane and I am so excited to

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Speaker 1: be here with you all. UM, this week's episode is

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Speaker 1: going to be very informative. I'm gonna switch it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I know we talked about a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that we can use UM internally, but I

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Speaker 1: thought that it would be very UM interested and excited

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Speaker 1: to talk about things that we can do to help

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Speaker 1: us externally. UM. As you know, I'm very big on

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Speaker 1: skincare and I have a licensed instetition with us here today. UM,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna also be sharing my own skincare journey

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Speaker 1: on how I have really nice skin because I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people always ask me what do I use?

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Speaker 1: What products do you buy? A UM, I really hope

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Speaker 1: that this is very insightful to help you with your

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Speaker 1: own skincare journey. So before you began, you want to

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Speaker 1: do a little housekeeping, UM, please make sure you're following

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Speaker 1: me on all social media platforms the Professional Home Girl UM.

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Speaker 1: The podcast handle is the PhD Podcast. And also I

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Speaker 1: just launched my own beauty line called Ebaname Beauty and

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Speaker 1: it's really nice. I been getting a lot of good feedback,

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Speaker 1: So if you have any question anything, please email me

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Speaker 1: at hello at the Professional homegirl dot com. Alright, so

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Speaker 1: let's begin where our topic. So there's a there's always

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Speaker 1: a lot of misconception about people with skincare. I know,

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Speaker 1: being raised in the no Black community, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that we was really taught on how to properly take

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Speaker 1: care of our skin. Um. You know, when I was

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Speaker 1: growing up, my grandma leaves to wash her face was

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Speaker 1: really excited to share with all of my because most

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Speaker 1: of my followers and my listeners are black women. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to have my guests here today because

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Speaker 1: she's really mindful and very helpful and very knowledgeable when

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Speaker 1: it comes to skincare. So please get my listeners a

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Speaker 1: little background on you being a license you know, I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people who can do skin.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people who are asteticians

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Speaker 1: or a lot of people who can do a facial.

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Speaker 1: But for you to be licensed, that means that you

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Speaker 1: really took the time out to like you really love it,

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Speaker 1: you have a passion for it, like you went to

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Speaker 1: school for it, so give us a little insight. Sure, well,

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Speaker 1: I would have to say probably the most important thing

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Speaker 1: is you're right. A lot of people could do facials,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people could say they know about skincare.

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Speaker 1: But I think what makes a licensed destetician different is

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Speaker 1: that you actually have had to go in there and

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Speaker 1: work with some of the toughest skin there is and

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Speaker 1: learn how to take care of it. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: not just models and people that have perfect skin that

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Speaker 1: you have to see and you have to treat. It's

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Speaker 1: people that have serious skin issues. And as far as

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Speaker 1: like you know, your grandparents who used to wash with

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Speaker 1: You know that actually a lot of women have beautiful

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Speaker 1: there weren't all the hormones that there are now and meets,

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Speaker 1: there were all these processed environment the environment was cleaner.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's all kinds of factors that have changed nowadays.

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Speaker 1: this has to do with our environment, with what's going on,

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Speaker 1: with what we're eating, with the stress that we have.

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Speaker 1: We've never had these types of stress. People used to

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Speaker 1: a toll on your skin. You know what. That's so

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Speaker 1: interesting because when I was um, so those but those

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Speaker 1: dermotology or they went to a dermatologist, and dermotograis like, well,

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Speaker 1: You know, they see somebody fifteen minutes, you know, And

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Speaker 1: so the majority of them, especially because of the insurance

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Speaker 1: it's the way of life. It's it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: a criticism towards them, But they have a limited amount

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Speaker 1: under fifteen minutes and say, okay, this is what you need,

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Speaker 1: Da da dada, let me write the script. You're good,

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Speaker 1: let's go right. That's the general experience. But the thing

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Speaker 1: more going on than just the symptoms that prison. Because

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Speaker 1: I always say you can hide your feelings, you can tell,

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Speaker 1: that happens inside of you eventually comes out on your skin. Girl.

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Speaker 1: That is so true because when you're stressed that I know,

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Speaker 1: like you really can tell with somebody's going to some

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Speaker 1: But you're not there to be people's friends. You're there

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Speaker 1: to just say, Okay, these are your symptoms, this is

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, you know, absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: But I think what differentiates a good astetician is that

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Speaker 1: So I think that's where it came from. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: I think you have to go like every six weeks

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Speaker 1: good conditions. Well, I don't have to go back like

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Speaker 1: why do you have to wait that mount because you know,

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Speaker 1: know in World War two, I think, or maybe even

425
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Speaker 1: World War One, even even back before that, when people

426
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Speaker 1: had really bad types of wounds and things like that,

427
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Speaker 1: one of the elements that would actually help to heal

428
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Speaker 1: the skin was zinc. Yeah. So you know, it's those

429
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Speaker 1: kind of sunscreens that are great. That's wonderful. But here's

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Speaker 1: why I don't like wearing sunscreen all the time. Okay,

431
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Speaker 1: And I know this is going to be controversial, but

432
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm here to speak my mind, right,

433
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm not it's I can't edit out, thank you, so

434
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: every nowaday and we like a little controversy. So yeah, well,

435
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Speaker 1: good so you know, everybody's always like, I gotta put

436
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: on my sunscreen. I gotta put on my sunscreen. I

437
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: can't walk outside without sunscreen. Like the sun. You just

438
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: look at the sun and you're like gonna like burn,

439
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: like turn into a vampire and like turn to ashes

440
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: because I'm trying. I'm conditioning. Okay, sunscreen on every single day, right,

441
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: But you have to remember something fundamentally, the reason why

442
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: you were able to live on this beautiful planet is

443
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: because of the sun right right, there has to be

444
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: some vitamin D that's gets synthesized in your body. Just

445
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: like plants need the sun, we also need the sun.

446
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: We need to absorb some of the sun. So how

447
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: often to be we'll be on a flying sunscreen. I

448
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: think now people wear all these foundations that already have

449
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: sunscreen on. Everything has one exactly, so you know, I

450
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: think the times that you really have to get nuts

451
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: about sunscreen is if you go to the beach. I

452
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: don't care what color you are. Everybody needs to wear

453
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: sunscreen because those rays are very, very strong. And again

454
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: it goes back to the environment and how things have changed.

455
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: When you have more carbon dioxide in the air, when

456
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Speaker 1: you have more chemicals in the air. The rays of

457
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: the sun are hotter the right. It's like the sun

458
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: feels hotter now than it did years and years ago,

459
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Speaker 1: So you really have to protect your face and your

460
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: body and you know, but that's when you're out on

461
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Speaker 1: the beach, you're like really absorbing all those rays. You know,

462
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: if you spend most of your time hiking, yes, of

463
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: course all kinds of outdoor activities. Of course you should

464
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: wear sunscreen. But if you live in Manhattan and you

465
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: walk from building A to building B, you know, and like, oh,

466
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Speaker 1: I can't leave without putting on sunscreen, it's like a

467
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: little ridiculous. Yeah, ridiculous because that's the first I bust

468
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: my teeth and put my scre on and I'm out.

469
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: But you know, it doesn't allow for any freedom or

470
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: any allowance of that wonderful sign to like just come in,

471
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Speaker 1: you know. So is it true? So what's the minimum

472
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Speaker 1: amount of m SPF person should be applying when they

473
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Speaker 1: do put on sunscreen? Well, I think that it varies

474
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Speaker 1: a little bit. So there's all these companies that say

475
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Speaker 1: like they have fifty SPF and a hundred SPF and

476
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: all of that. Honestly, for lack of a better word,

477
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: it's all bullshit. Okay, it's all marketing. Why is it

478
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Speaker 1: bullshit because there's no such thing as fifty and sause?

479
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: First guy on the PhD podcast. Yeah, because Okay, first

480
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Speaker 1: of all, you have fifteen SPF. Fifteen SPF probably allows

481
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Speaker 1: about I want to say, like it blocks out about

482
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: of the rays. Then you have liket SPF and that's

483
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: like pent of the rays, and then after thirty everything else.

484
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: It's just pretty much the same thing. So when I

485
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: used to work in a beauty industry, is it true

486
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Speaker 1: that let's say, if you have a UMPF, does that

487
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Speaker 1: mean last for three hours? I don't know the exact

488
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Speaker 1: when it was fifty last or five hours? I'm sorry,

489
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: I've worn fifty SPF and I've sat out for five

490
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: hours and I burned. That's yeah, No, it's it's a misnomer.

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Speaker 1: I think just as a general rule, if you put

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Speaker 1: on sunscreen, you have to reapply it, like I would say,

493
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: like every hour, hour and a half. And it doesn't

494
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Speaker 1: mean that you can stay out longer. It just means

495
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: that thirty SPF two hours, that's it. You're done no more. So,

496
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about drug store products. I think

497
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: drug store products are very profitable for drug stores and

498
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: for big brands, and they make a lot of money

499
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: and they spend a lot of money on marketing. But

500
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, listen, if you think those movie

501
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: stars that I would say they use a veto or

502
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: say they use loreale coloring at home, if you really

503
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: believe that, right, sorry, but they make you believe it,

504
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: like they make you feel like uniquelear so to have

505
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: the purpose kids. Yeah, well, how many people have I

506
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: had come to see me and they're like, oh, yeah,

507
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: I've been So it doesn't work. I'm like, I wonder why?

508
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: And what was that big controversy about? Was it Kylie

509
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Jenner who uses proactive? Who was it? Do remember? Like, girl,

510
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: you do not use like sting. I mean it's really insulting, right,

511
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: But then you have these you have um, regular girls

512
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: who look up to her and they really think that

513
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: proactive is the way to go. I mean, do you

514
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: think that works? It's ben soil peroxide. Um, I think

515
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: it works a limited amount. But again, you know, if you,

516
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: I promise you, she's way many other things. She's laughing

517
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: all the way to the bank. That's why her stay

518
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: it's so good. She's like, I don't have any worries.

519
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't have anything good. And so what are some

520
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: of the products that you love, like some of the

521
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: brands that you would recommend for those who are on

522
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: the journey having them perfect skin. Well, okay, so here's

523
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: the thing. I will not recommend any products to anybody

524
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: until I see their skin, because because you know, everybody's

525
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: a little bit different, you know. So I think here's

526
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: what I think of drug store brands. Any brand that says, oh,

527
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: this is great for everybody, that's when you just need

528
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, that's probably not true. You know.

529
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: It's so funny when I want to UM, do you

530
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: have a brand from the drug store? We can read

531
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: the angry dance. I don't have it with me, but

532
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: we should have done that. Yeah, but you know what,

533
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: it literally just came to me. So when I was

534
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: with UM, I went to my dermatologist a long time

535
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: ago and she recommended set a fail in seribe And

536
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: so every nowaday I use it like I don't use

537
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: it now, but if I was to use it, I

538
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: will use from a drugs where I would use that one.

539
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: And she know why, she recommended that. Yeah, why I

540
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: want to know because she didn't sell her own. Other

541
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: other dermatologists they have their own brands, and we're really

542
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: concerned and they really want you to use their brands.

543
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: So what about the brand sisters dermatologists tested? Okay, Um,

544
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: let's see. I could have a private label, call it

545
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: my name and go to a dermatologist and say, hey,

546
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: here's like five thousand dollars. Can you test this? Oh? Yeah,

547
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: I tested it. It's great or not even? Yeah, I

548
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: tested it? Okay, dermatology test. Dermatologists tested. It says nothing.

549
00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: It means nothing. It's a catchphrase, you know. Wow. Yeah.

550
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Marketing is a scam. It's

551
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: all a scam, you know. And I hate Actually, I

552
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: don't hate to say that. I am very grateful to

553
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: you for you know, allowing me to come to this

554
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: podcast and saying and saying that and being able to

555
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, to speak my truth about it, because you know,

556
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people get paid a lot of money

557
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: to lie, to lie to you, to lie to me.

558
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: And you know what, I hope there comes a time

559
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: in society when people are just tired of the lies

560
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: and start telling the truth and you know what, that's

561
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: something that I really stand for, and I stand for

562
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: the truth. Has I ever been a time where it's

563
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: been difficult for you to be really honest with a

564
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: client of a client of yours when it came to

565
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: their skin. Yeah, there's times when it is really difficult

566
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: because sometimes people don't want to hear the truth. You know,

567
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: it's a really hard thing for people to grasp. You know.

568
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: I had this one girl who said, well, I went

569
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: to the holistic doctor and she gave me all these vitamins.

570
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the I believe in some

571
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: and I don't believe another. Some people I think are

572
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: just very interested in selling their practice and selling their vitamins.

573
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, I can't say all across the board, I

574
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: don't believe in this. You know. I think people are

575
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: individual and I think there's some really great people out there. Um,

576
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: but do I believe in blanket statements? No? You know.

577
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: But the thing is, she was like, and I did this,

578
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: and I did that, and I just asked her, I said, well,

579
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: why have you spent all these years just fighting fighting

580
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: your acne? I'm like, stopped fighting it. And all of

581
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: a sudden she got really clear and once she started,

582
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, just realizing she's been fighting and let go,

583
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: the skins started clearing up, bothering you like you know

584
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: what they say, what you resist persists. Yeah, that's crazy.

585
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't suggest skincare just like, oh,

586
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: I believe this line is great or that line is great,

587
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: because I think the most important thing that I think

588
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: what my job is is basically to say to people, Okay,

589
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: what are you telling yourself every day? How are you

590
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: speaking to yourself? Nothing's going to work until that changes.

591
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: So I think since be on the subject of skin

592
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: care products, I'm gonna list a number of things that

593
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people use for the skin care and

594
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna say either yes or no. Then you're gonna

595
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: say the reason why you say yes, and okay, I

596
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: love this, right, I love it. Okay, So the first

597
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: one we're gonna do it is exfoliation, yes or no? Yes?

598
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Why because it's important to help along the natural process.

599
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Your skin is gonna exfoliate anyway, but sometimes you need

600
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: a little help, and as you get older, your skin

601
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: stops exfoliating as quickly as when you were young. So

602
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: it's a great anti aging. It's great to clean the skin.

603
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: So I say, yes, how often should you? Again, that

604
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: depends on skin type and what's going on. See, there's

605
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: no hard and fast set rules. Yes, which is why

606
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: you know all these editors and these you know booke

607
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah and this and that. This is

608
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: really great and this is amazing, and like I've seen

609
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: them in person, and some of them have the most

610
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: hideous skin, And I'm like, what the hell are you talking?

611
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: Game for a very for a minute? Nine? You have

612
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: very and I've read about you and your your background,

613
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: so you have like witness a lot of different people,

614
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing writing about beauty?

615
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, who did you know to get this job

616
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: and gave you these free products to endorse? Because that's

617
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: really what it's about. It all comes down to money, damn.

618
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: And if you get that and you understand that, and

619
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: you find that that that's the truth, your whole perception

620
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: of what gets sold to you changes. Wow. So the

621
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: next one cleanser with acid in it cleanser with acids?

622
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: Sure like sometimes they my clients have to use a

623
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: glycolic acid cleanser, a lactic acid cleanser. It's a great

624
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: expoliant absolutely toner Toner okay toner. Basically you don't have

625
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: to use toner. Some people love like twelve steps. So

626
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: if I don't know, I think, if I'm not mistinking,

627
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: it's in the Asian culture that they do like twelve

628
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: steps of like skin care routine. And I remember when

629
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: I was in the beauty industry and they was like,

630
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: you have to do at least twelve you gotta start

631
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: like lathering up this and I'm like, damn, hope, that's

632
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: trying to put twelve different types of ship in your face.

633
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Like it's a long time and that's and that's a

634
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: lot of money if you will have the money for that. Well,

635
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: first of all, I am here to tell you I

636
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: think it's a complete waste of money. And it's like

637
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: your skin can only absorb so much. Yes, And if

638
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: twelve steps worked, why do I still have a lot

639
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: of Asian clients that come in with like troubled skin.

640
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah you know again, you know people are like, oh,

641
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: Korean skin care, it's amazing, It's the most amazing thing ever.

642
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: They're so great, blah blah blah, Hello, marketing you probably

643
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: someone in Korea is like you know what, how can

644
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: we infiltrate the market in the United States. I know

645
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: we'll come up with this and then we'll just sell

646
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: it to everybody. And like, and when I used to

647
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: work at this store, I'm like, damn, like I really

648
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: like putting onto these women, Like you have to buy

649
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: these twelve steps, like you have to get from A

650
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: to be or like you need all these stuffs to

651
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: have the perfect skin. And I'm like, girl, it's a lot. Well,

652
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. When you travel through life,

653
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: do you have to go through A to Z or

654
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: can you like go to A and then maybe jump

655
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: to C and then maybe go around to D and

656
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: take a look around. Right? Why I don't make any sense?

657
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: You know what, you can't do twelve steps. You're not

658
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen when I was when I was walking to

659
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: be the industry. Of course, I feel victor because I'm like,

660
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: they let me just see because a lot of the

661
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: people who are doing all theselves have nice skin, and

662
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't use this on my skin. Musk

663
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: was wreaking out like crazy. There you go. It's not

664
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, and they pushed this on you

665
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: to make it saying like this is what you have

666
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: to do. Let me tell you something. I have never

667
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: had trouble with my skin. I whether I wash it,

668
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: whether I don't wash it, whether I use this, whether

669
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't use that. I'm just one of those people.

670
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate like that. You know, I can

671
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: eat fried food, I can eat chocolate, you know what

672
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean. But at the same time, I'm one of

673
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: those people that if I eat chocolate, if I eat

674
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: fried food, I'll gain ten pounds. You know, some people

675
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: are naturally very thin, some people are not. Some people

676
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: naturally have great skin, some people don't. You know, it's

677
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: just your genetics. It's you know, and it's your stress,

678
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and it's all kinds of things that you're going through.

679
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: But it's not because you've done something wrong. You know.

680
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot of clients to come and say,

681
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, I eat dairy and now my skins

682
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: like freaking out, or like I never should have shaved

683
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: this area and now I have all this hair. And

684
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: it's like, I say to myself, what the hell is

685
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: wrong with our culture that somehow our first instinct is

686
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: to blame ourselves for a pimple or for for hair,

687
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: like we did something wrong, you know, Consider that you've

688
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: done nothing wrong. Consider that it's just the luck of

689
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: the draw and it's just your genetics, and that's the

690
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: issues that you have. And then other people have other issues.

691
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Some people are multibillionaires, some people are not. Some people

692
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: get acne, some people don't. But I think the best

693
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: thing that you can do is stop blaming yourself for

694
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: something that has nothing to do with you, because if

695
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: it did, if you did have control over, you won't

696
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: be going on. Yeah. And you don't have control over

697
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: situations that happen in your life. You know. People have deaths,

698
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: people have divorces, people have stressful jobs. It's not your

699
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: fault that you have that. Stop blaming yourself. I agree.

700
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: So yes, the toner, Yeah, if you like it, absolutely,

701
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: why not? There's some good toners out there helps you.

702
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: You never tell me you use a tone, I don't

703
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: use toners. Well, if you want it, I'll sell your

704
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: twelve steps you can start on its own. You know why,

705
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: because I like to simplify for people. I think things

706
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: get so complicated that rather than saying to myself, okay,

707
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: how many steps can I have, somebody use I think

708
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: the opposite, and I say, Okay, what's the few things

709
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: that people can use that's really going to make a difference,

710
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: also make a difference, and it's also there's conducers to

711
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: that person's lifestyle exactly exactly. Moisturizers, they're great. I mean,

712
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: what's bad about having something that actually helps to put

713
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: emmalia on your skin? Yeah? Yeah, of course, SPF, SPF.

714
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: We talked about SPF. What about masks? Mask? You know,

715
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: how to do like the clay mass, the pumpkin mass. Yeah, Like,

716
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: how do you feel about those? You think it's necessary

717
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: in a skincare I mean, I wouldn't want to take

718
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: any joy away from people because I know how much

719
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: people love to mask. Mask, you know, but you know

720
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: it's also limited. I mean, it just goes to a

721
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: certain extent, you know, on the surface of the skin.

722
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: It closes the pores, it draws out impurities. But you know,

723
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: it's not my favorite part of a facial. It's not

724
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: what makes the difference. You know. I put masks on

725
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: people because that's kind of what's expected, you know, but

726
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: it's not the greatest thing. Ever. People think that if

727
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: you don't have a mass, it's not a facial, like

728
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: you a mass have to be involved in a facial. Yeah,

729
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: some of the best facials I do don't use a

730
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: mask because you never did a mask on me. I

731
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: think they're a waste. I really do. And I know

732
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to be struck down for this, but I

733
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: think so because I think also a lot of people

734
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: never hurt a licensed as atitician say the things that

735
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people are not saying, like you're a

736
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: lot of licensed asteticians think that a good facial has

737
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: to have a mask, you know. And I also think

738
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: that you're not pushing when it comes to UM two sales,

739
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Like I think that you really genuinely care about a

740
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: person's skin. So like, well, I would say even more

741
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: than that, I really genuinely care about the person. Yeah,

742
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: that's too And I think that that means a lot

743
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: to people, and it makes people want even just okay,

744
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: what can I buy? Like I gotta give you more

745
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: money because you make me feel that comfortable and you

746
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: make me feel that good about something I am really

747
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: sense to about because, like you said, the first thing

748
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: you see, you don't hear somebody speak first. You see

749
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: somebody first. So I think that's a lot and one

750
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: of my favorites I creams. I love a good I cream. Well,

751
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to take that away from you. Keep

752
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: your illusions like it. I mean good with marketing take away,

753
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: the crisp feet take away, the under ice circles take away.

754
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: But understand, you're basically putting a moisturizer under your eyes.

755
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's it. That's it. Just get real.

756
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: So if you had to pick the top three items

757
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: to use in your skin, what will it be? The

758
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: top three items and not brands? It can be like

759
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: for me, my top three is my clissert um, my SPF.

760
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Am I agree, okay, because my SPF also serve as

761
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: a moister virser as well. So okay. Uh So here's

762
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: the thing where we get a little bit in the

763
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: gray zone, so to speak, because this may not be

764
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: true for everybody. Okay, So I'm generalizing. So I love

765
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: a good vitamin C in the morning, A good vitamin

766
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: C serum. I think that's really impuls Yeah, a lot

767
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: of seriums have really great stuff in them. Wow, you

768
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: never told me that either. You see how she's hold

769
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: him back on me, guys, holding back. I was just

770
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: waiting for the podcast. Wow, really so serious. Yeah, seriums

771
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: are great. So vitamin C is fantastic. Um A Vitamin

772
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: A in the evening. That's really great to have. Um

773
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: A good exfoliator. More vitamin did I say, cee? I

774
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: meant A? Sorry, so I vitamin A? You mean vitamin

775
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: A and C Okay. So generally what vitamin C does

776
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: is it forms a barrier on the skin and it

777
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: protects your skin from antioxidant damage. And you can literally

778
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: do a test with this. So you can take vitamin C,

779
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: rub it on an apple, on a half of an apple,

780
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: and then leave the other half without vitamin C, and

781
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: in a couple of hours you'll see that where you

782
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: put the vitamin C, the apple stayed fresh. On the

783
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: one where you didn't, it turned brown. Wow. So yeah,

784
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: So that's why you want to put a vitamin C

785
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: on in the morning, because it actually protects your skin

786
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: from antioxidant damage. Well, it's an antioxidant. That so what

787
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: I want to say, Yeah, Vitamin A. Vitamin A is

788
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: really important and it's used a lot, so it goes

789
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: under a lot of names. You have Retina is a

790
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: strong vitamin A to do at night. You want to

791
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: do it at night because it listen, I know my ship,

792
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: I tell him, I guess if you have any it exist. Um. So,

793
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: vitamin E is important because it actually exfoliates the skin.

794
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: So you don't you don't necessarily want that during the day.

795
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: You want a protector in the in the day, and

796
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: you want an exfoliator at night, right because at night

797
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: you're at home, you're you know, you don't have the environment.

798
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's not as I guess, dirty polluted whatever

799
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: raised of the sun. And then so that was vitamin A,

800
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: vitamin C, environament e. So vitamin E. Vitamin E is

801
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: not necessarily you don't have to use it every day.

802
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: It's found in a lot of moisturizers. It's very soothing,

803
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: it's very emollient, you know, it's, you know, something good

804
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: to reduce irritation. It's great for sensitive skin. But it

805
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: may not necessarily be something that everybody has to use.

806
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: So you touched on vitamin C vitamin A and we

807
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: can find those in our cleansers. No, well you may actually,

808
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: but the thing is about cleansers like I love these,

809
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: like vitamin C cleansers and blah blah blah. So here's

810
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of common sense for me, Like, what

811
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: good is a vitamin C cleanser going to do? If basically,

812
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: a vitamin C cleanser cleanses your skin, meaning it takes

813
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: off everything, and then it takes off itself because it's

814
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: a cleanser. So that's kind of like you're putting vitamin

815
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: C and then you're washing it off, especially if it's

816
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: suposed to be like a barrier exactly. So when I

817
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: say vitamin C Vitamin A, I'm talking about serums that

818
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: actually stay on the skin. Three cleanser my top three.

819
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean you always need a cleanser, right, always need

820
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: a moisturizer. Even people with oily skin sometimes need moisturizer

821
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: because they tend to dehydrate their skin so much because

822
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: they're like, no more oil, no more oil, and then

823
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: it could puld says the exact opposite effect, and then

824
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: you start getting more oil. So even an oily skin,

825
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: a nice light moisturizer is good. Um. And then you know,

826
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: either a vitamin C vitamin A and in an ideal

827
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: world maybe both one in the morning when at night

828
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: and can skin care be the same for both daytime

829
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: and nighttime? For certain people. Absolutely. I always say keep

830
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: it simple. You know, one more thing to stress out

831
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: about in life is just absolutely ridiculous. You know you

832
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: do say that. So last one, at least, what is

833
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: some advice that you would give them women that's on

834
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: the journey of heaven of heaven perfect skin of perfect skin,

835
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's perfect, but you know, to be happy

836
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: with the skin because I think the skin displays a

837
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: big back there and how we feel about ourselves. So

838
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: it would be some advice. Because you're really big online

839
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: making sure that your clients feel beauty ful inside and out. Well,

840
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: I think the most important advice I could give is

841
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: be honest with yourself and really take a look and

842
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: see what's going on in your life, you know, because

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Speaker 1: it is. Um. And then the other thing I would

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Speaker 1: say is um, I go back to what my teacher said,

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Speaker 1: it's not what you're eating, it's what you're thinking. What

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Speaker 1: are you thinking about yourself? Who do you think you are?

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Speaker 1: Are you making a difference in the world, Are you

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Speaker 1: making a difference for yourself and those around you? And

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Speaker 1: are you taking care of yourself? Are you loving yourself? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Starts within. It always starts from within. Has absolutely nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with any product I could possibly sell you

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Speaker 1: or any service I could possibly do. The most important

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Speaker 1: thing I do is I listen to ball and I

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Speaker 1: get they get gotten when they leave my office. They

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Speaker 1: know that I've listened to what they have to say,

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Speaker 1: and they know that what they have to say is

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Speaker 1: important to me, and people generally don't get gotten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that was amazing. UM. As you know, all

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Speaker 1: of my guests are anonymous, but if you would love

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Speaker 1: love to even have a service by her, please email

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Speaker 1: me at hello at the Professional Homegirl dot com. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you have any questions for my guests, please email

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Speaker 1: email me as well and make sure that she gets

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Speaker 1: the questions and we could probably do a Q and

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Speaker 1: A after this episode. UM, I think this was really amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, absolutely, and until next time. Everyone Later,