WEBVTT - #602 Packers Unscripted: Initial action 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:11.440 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.520 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.200 partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz, were coming to you here 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.640 from our studios at lambeau Field West. Over the weekend, 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:26.040 the Packers got their pre season underway to seven loss 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.080 to the Houston Texans. But it wasn't about the final 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.760 score necessarily, as it never really is in the preseason. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.600 First and foremost, this game was well, yeah, the Baltimore Ravens, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.240 who are now on a five or six year winning 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:44.440 streak in the in the preseason, but that aside. This game, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.519 first and foremost was about quarterback Jordan's love. Um. We 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.479 talked about it all last week, a lot of anticipation, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.040 a big spotlight on the young man. Saturday night at 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.880 lambeau Field. What do you think, Yeah, I thought it 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.120 was a good performance, not a great performance. Jordan's it. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.520 I think there were some moments there as as Matt 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.640 Laflour talked about letting it rip a little bit more. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.400 You know, there's a couple of times and we've seen 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.039 that in practice too. Somebody asked me this inside of inbox, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.600 I'm in the middle of answering it. You know about 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.000 how much surprise is you from what you see in 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.400 the preseason games as opposed to what you see in practice, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:22.240 And certainly that does it does happen, but a lot 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.040 of times I think the preseason is a continuation of 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.720 what you've been seeing for the past few weeks. And 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.720 really that's been the story for Jordan's Loves so far. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.600 It's an extremely talented twenty two year old man that 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.160 can really throw a football, and it's just been a 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.800 matter of finding those moments when he's in a rhythm 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.319 and building on those because I'll tell you what, when 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.320 he gets into that run and he can, you know, 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.039 kind of string together some passes, it looks the way 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.560 it's supposed to look, but it's making sure that you 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.440 can stay on that trend. It's the hardest position to 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.160 play in all of sports. I will say that forever, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.000 just because of all the variables, the fact that there's 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.520 eleven players on the other side of the field. Any 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.320 movement that they make changes those variables. So for Love, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.200 it's it's about trying to make sure that he can 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.360 stay up on that playing within himself. As Matt Lafleur 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.280 kept saying, trusting his footwork, trusting what he's seeing, playing instinctively, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.200 but all things considered, it's still or excuse me, twelve 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.360 of seventeen yards and a touchdown a hundred ten pass 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.119 rating a good first step for Jordan's love. Yeah, absolutely 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.720 he It took a little bit to get going. The 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.600 first two possessions were three and outs. The Packers were 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.280 not running the ball with any effectiveness, which we'll get 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.360 to a little bit later on here as well. But 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.960 then drive number three, third and nine, a really nice pass, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.359 good route, good catch all that over the middle to 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.400 j Sternberger, and that kind of jump started Jordan's love. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.160 It got him going. Then all of a sudden it 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.800 was boom, boom, boom, hitting some passes um you know, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.959 in succession there and then after the quarter quarter break, 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.239 excuse me, flipping directions going the other way. The screen 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.679 passed to kyl and Hill, the rookie seventh round pick 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.000 out of Mississippi State, and gets a couple of good 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.240 blocks from his linement out there and takes it in 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.000 for a touchdown. So the Packers get on the board 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:14.040 there at that moment, I think, obviously there are a 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.400 couple of plays that Jordan's Love would like to have back, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.839 probably more than any other. The fourth and two where 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.280 Matt Lafleur says, Okay, you're staying out there, We're going 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:26.800 for it, and then whatever the play action keeper that 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.400 was called Love turned the wrong way when he took 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.600 the snap, so the whole play action, whatever it was 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.160 supposed to be, didn't develop, and he kind of ended 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.280 up just having to, you know, throw it up there 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.280 and hope, hope that Devin Funcius could come down with it. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.120 Those are the kind of things like, yeah, it's a mental, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.640 mental mistake and it's unfortunate, but again that's that's just 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.040 another thing for him to learn from because that's happened 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.360 to every quarterback who's ever been out there, and hey, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.960 if it's going to happen, it might as well happen 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.240 in a preseason game. Absolutely, And those are just the 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.200 reps that you have to take the moment, you have 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.760 to learn from and really make sure they don't happen. Again. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.720 I don't really read too much into those. You've seen 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.320 all the young quarterbacks. So you can go back and 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.680 watch Aaron Rodgers film in two thousand five from his 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.200 first preseason. The bigger thing for me is seeing the 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.159 game continually slowed down for Jordan's love and wanting to 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.080 see that continue to happen, because the less that a 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.000 quarterback has to think about what they're doing, the more 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.200 that you're gonna see those results really come to them. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.080 And you know, some of the throws he did make 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.880 in this game, as we've seen in practice. You know, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.680 he has a world class arm. It's what made him 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.839 a first round pick. The fact that he has that 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.680 type of ability. You know, I think as time we 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.320 get kind of away from his you know, his last 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.000 season at Utah State, you see the fact that Utah 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.680 State still hasn't really had anyone drafted since Jordan's loved, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.120 you start to understand maybe why he did certain things 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.000 is last year that some people perceived as a step back. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.200 He has all the ability of the world. He is 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.719 a guy that I think you can see players rally around. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.520 It's a different type of confidence in Aaron Rodgers. You know, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.039 he's not a huge, ext reverted, you know, kind of 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.520 guy in there, you know, kind of boisterous, but he 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.839 still commands the huddle and listening to Kyle and Hill 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.719 talk about that and some of these offensive players. There 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.840 is a steadiness with Jordan's Love that you really like. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.560 It's just that once that whistle blows and once that 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.839 ball is snapped, seeing things move a little bit faster 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.000 for him. He did suffer the shoulder injury before halftime. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.279 He was not practicing on Monday. Matt Lafleur left the 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.640 door open for him to potentially still practice this week, 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.080 maybe play against the Jets. If he can get these 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.880 last two preseason games. I think that would be really 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.400 beneficial for him now down the line as he develops. Yeah, 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.920 we'll be following the health reports on Love with regard 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.960 to these joint practices with New York. The preseason game 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.640 coming up. Really unfortunate because Matt Lafleur was using his 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.360 time outs at the end of the first half trying 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.599 to set everything up so that Jordan's Love could have 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.200 a two minute drill there at the end of the 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.599 first half and ends up with only I think it 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.440 was fifty three seconds on the clock. And then the 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.280 very first play, unfortunately from the blind side, he doesn't 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.039 see the guy gets his arm raked, the ball comes out, um, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.120 there's a there's a fumble, there. Matt Lafleur initially sort 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.800 of said Love maybe took too deep of a drop there. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.000 Then after reviewing the film really kind of absolved him 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.320 and said, you know, there really wasn't anything uh differently 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.080 that that Love could have or should have done there, 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.839 but you know, a little bit of a tweak to 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.680 the shoulder. So they held him out. He did not 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.440 play in the second half, and he did not practice 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:30.080 on Monday. So um but by all accounts optimistic that 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.000 that he's going to be back in fairly short order here. Yeah, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.720 I don't think there's any real long term concerns there 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.800 at all. It's more about how quick these timelines I 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.680 remember thinking back to I think it happened with Brett 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.240 Hunley a little bit too during his time in Green Bay. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.080 When you get hurt during the preseason and miss those opportunities, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.599 those are such huge reps for guys to be able 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.920 to take. So certainly the Packers want to get him 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.440 back sooner than later. Kirk ben Kurt was able to 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.160 get the entire second half. The second year quarterback that 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.880 actually spent a number of years on the practice squad 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.000 with the Atlanta he had an opportunity to get out there. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.080 I thought you saw him throw the ball and definitely 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.160 fearless back there. Had a couple of hours though that 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.840 they're gonna want to try to clean up. But uh, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.360 Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna play in the preseason for the 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.720 most part. That's what Matt Lafore started hinted at. So 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.320 if it's not love on Saturday, it'll be a lot 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.400 of Ben Kurt and potentially, as they said, they'll work 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.640 out some quarterbacks this week and see if there's another 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.120 guy they need to add. Yeah, it'll be a situation 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.720 to follow as the week goes along. We'll get to 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.679 some other positions here as well. 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So I 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.640 know you're not a fan of cheese, but but only 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:09.240 raw cheese. Oh you like you like fried cheese? Yeah, okay, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.480 I just don't want to Let's see, I learned something 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.680 new about you every day. Um. Well, we mentioned Kyle 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.320 and Hill. He gets the Packers touchdown on the screen pass. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.160 Not a whole lot to really be able to see 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.600 other than that. With regard to the three running backs, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.600 we talked a lot about that battle for the number 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.400 three running back job. Hill, Patrick Taylor, Dexter Williams. Dexter 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.720 Williams with some nice carries late in the fourth quarter 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:39.000 when he got in there. But but on balance, Um, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.480 the coaching staff from Matt Lafleur to Nathaniel Hackett to 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.000 Adam Stanovich offensive line coach and run game coordinator, not 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:51.319 happy with, uh, with the Packers inability to run the football. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.200 And uh, you know really they talked about it not 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.720 not being mental errors and whatnot up front, just a 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.600 little bit of a lack of density, not carrying over 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.160 the techniques and the things that they're being taught they 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.800 you know, Matt Fleur said it after Saturday night's game, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.560 the Texans won the battle in the trenches. And one 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.760 reaction to that now, nobody's blaming any specific individual, but 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:20.079 one reaction to that now is the three headed competition 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.120 for the two guard spots now has become a foreheaded 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:28.480 competition because in Monday's practice, rookie fourth round draft pick 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.880 from Old Miss Royce Newman was worked into that rotation 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.720 that also includes Ben Braden, Lucas Patrick, and John Runyon. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.680 So another guy, another young guy in the mix here 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.480 west for a for a starting guard spot. With Elton 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.199 Jenkins filling in for David Botry at left tackle, Packers 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.720 are going to see what they what they have in 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.960 this young man. Take a little bit of a story 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.319 trip down memory lane, if you will. Packers of their 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.360 offensive line position, it tends to be an older position 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.880 position where the experience kind of of times ways out. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.120 And there's two episodes that kind of always ring true 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.040 to my mind. Obviously, we always talked about the Corey 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.280 Linsley story, the fact that this is a guy that 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.360 took the two reps, the entire training camp, all the preseason. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.679 J C. Treader ends up suffering. I believe it was 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.400 the knee injury. Corey is suddenly the starter. Boom, here 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.720 you go, Welcome to the NFL. The other one, and 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.080 we talked so much about David Baktr going to left 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.600 tackle when Brian Bulaga got injured at the Family Night 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.520 scrimmage back in two thousand thirteen. But what we very 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.840 rarely talked about was in that game or in that scrimmage. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.800 Excuse me, that practice at Lambou Field was the first 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.840 time box Tr was actually starting to take starting reps. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.040 They actually started working them at right tackle. My point 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.080 being with the stories, there comes a time during every 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.240 training camp where the rookies sometimes you do take the 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.360 wheels off a little bit and see how they function. 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.800 Can they go out and swim a little bit in 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:58.360 some deeper water. That was this day for Newman. The 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.439 fact that the Packers threw them in there right guard. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.800 They used Branden at left guard. They did that, I 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.240 believe for two or three plays and then with the ones. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.200 Yet it wasn't like they switched over to the twos 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.880 with the ones then taking a look at running and 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.280 left guard and back to Lucas Patrick, who was the 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.440 start of their last season. Yes, and and running and 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.680 Patrick were the starters on Saturday night in preseason game. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.560 So they are casting a wide net here and listening 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.040 to Matt la floor talk about this and into credit. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:25.800 You know, Adam Stanovich was right out in front of 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.520 it to bench sermons. Everybody wants to run the ball better. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.400 But Matt Lafleur really laid it down. And even when 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.679 he was talking about the joint practices this week with 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.280 the Jets, Mike, one of the things he said is 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.000 he wants to see how these guards handle a different 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.360 team in these practice settings. So for Roy Snwman, a 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.560 guy that's been so multiple has played all these different positions, 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.520 even joked about, you know, some of the time he's 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.520 spent at tight end, you know, in the past, this 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.520 is a big moment for him and it's a big 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.800 moment for all those guys because there, as I said 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.960 to you all along, Mike, I'm pretty confident throughout the 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.000 course of the year, they're gonna need most of those guards. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.840 It's most of those offensive linemen to navigate the whole season. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.000 Whoever ends up at left and right guard, with a 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.440 few exceptions, that's usually not the way it ends by 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.480 the end of the season on the old line. So 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.640 for Newman seeing how are he responds to this. He 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.640 actually was the highest graded offensive lineman the Packers had 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.360 by Pro Football Focus in the preseason game, albeit it 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.800 came late against some reserves. This is the chance that 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.040 he was hoping for, and now he's getting a chat 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.080 to show that, hey, maybe in year one he can 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.560 be that next offensive lineman that plays as a rookie. Yeah. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.720 And we should say as well with regard to the 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:36.440 offensive line, we found out Saturday night there were thirty 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.400 players on the Packers ninety man roster that did not 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.040 suit up for the game. The vast majority of the 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.000 starters did not suit up. So what you had on 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.680 the offensive line was essentially your number one guys on 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.160 the interior center Josh Meyer's the rookie, and then the 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.199 guards that we've been talking about. But then the reserves 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.080 at tackle in yosh Naiman on the left side and 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.480 veteran Dennis Kelly on the right side. And I'm not 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.800 trying to make excuses for guys, but that is a 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.199 combination essentially that we had not seen during training camp 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.240 because it was a it was a mixture it was 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.400 a mixture of the ones and the two's. UM. Now, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.439 the coaches didn't talk about that because they're looking individually. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.760 They still want to see the execution and whatnot. Um, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.960 there are obviously some issues with regard to combo blocks 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.079 and a lot of things that do take some chemistry 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.040 and some timing and that kind of thing. So those 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.080 are the things they'll be looking to see improve as 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.080 things go along. But the other point, though, is that 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.040 rookies second round pick Josh Meyers at center. UM, folks, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:45.040 I encourage you check out Larry mccarren's rock Report that 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.640 that is on Packers dot Com. On Myer's debut there 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.840 in the in the preseason game, really no disappointments, no 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.960 issues as far as as far as wondering if this 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.760 young man is going to be the Week one starter 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.880 at center. He's the guy. Yeah, he can play it. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.120 You know. Matt Laufer has already said Elton Jenkins and 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.480 Billy Turner probably won't play during the preseason. I'd be 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.559 curious to see how long Myers is out there too. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.760 To be honest with you, it's not to say he's 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.959 He's not without fault. There was that one play. I 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.600 think he kind of got blown up a little bit 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.000 early on as a guy I was able to get 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.080 into the backfield. But generally speaking for you know, there's 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.840 that line that David Batar said about Okay, you're six 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.640 five or three ten? What what's wrong with you? Why 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.080 are you at center? Are you not a good athlete? No? 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.600 You could really see his athleticism in this game. And 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.440 when you're going up against you know, a lot of reserves. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.200 What do you always look for in these games, Mike, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.680 It doesn't matter if your quarterback, punter, safety, offensive lineman. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.480 You want to see guys who dominate the competition because 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:45.160 athletically you just are better. You're cut above. Josh Myers 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.280 looked to cut above to me in this game, just 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.640 the way he moves. Obviously getting down some of the 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.760 Caden stuff with Rogers is going to be huge, But 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.800 you go back to that screen pass to Hill, the 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.440 fact that he's able to get out in space. And 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.360 I love what Larry said in his interview UH with 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.000 with Myers after the game, saying, you know when he 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.120 taught it back in the day, it was you're not 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.320 a dancer, so don't dance, you know, don't go dancing 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.760 with a dancer, right, the fact that those guys are 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.680 a lot quicker, they're a lot faster. Just get your 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.360 body on him. Myers did that and he ultimately kind 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.920 of gave him, gave Kylan Hill the block that got 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.520 him into the end zone. Really talented young man. You 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.840 can see why this guy was a second round pick. Yeah, 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.200 absolutely well. Shifting gears to the defensive side of the ball. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:31.120 The the defense only allowed and again it was primarily reserves. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:36.640 The only really projected starter for Week one who was 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.480 in the starting lineup on Saturday night was Chris Barnes. Now. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.920 The other one who did play at the beginning of 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.320 the game was rookie first round pick Eric Stokes. Were 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.200 expecting him to certainly be in that mix for a 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.440 lot of playing time early on as well, but Packers 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.400 only gave up the one touchdown until a second touchdown 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.640 late in the game. Otherwise it was field goals, the 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.320 Texans taking advantage of some good field position because of 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.400 some good punt returns. Packers had some special teams breakdowns unfortunately, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.360 and the failed fourth down situations that that gave them 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.440 good field position, but a few guys that stood out 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.120 to me West and I'll get your thoughts here. Um obviously, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.040 or in Burke's um real solid game at inside linebacker, 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:25.360 kaban into getting um an interception and seemed to acquit 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.040 himself well at at cornerback. And then also t J. Slayton, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.400 the rookie fifth round pick on the defensive line. Now, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.560 i will say with Slayton, I thought early in the game, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.840 Slayton and Lancaster, Tyler Lancaster, the veteran from Northwestern, they 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.320 were they were kind of anchoring the middle of the 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.960 D line and Houston seemed to have some trouble running 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.920 the ball. Then in the second half, when Slayton and 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.080 Lancaster were still in there, it kind of looked to 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.200 me like they ran out of gas a little bit. Now, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.560 this is you know, you only get so many reps 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.600 in every practice, and then suddenly they were in a 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.840 they were in a preseason game, playing you know, the 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.520 vast majority of it. So I'm not surprised they got 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.760 a little tired. Um, this was certainly an opportunity for 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.879 them to uh to work on their wind in their 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.960 and their stamina. I don't know how anybody given just 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.600 certain training camp practice could go out and play fifty 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.560 snaps all of a sudden, not get a little bit 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.919 tired out there as a three plus pound individual. But 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.320 I thought Slayton for his for his rookie debut in 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.320 the early going of the game, I thought he really 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.959 looked like he belonged out there. Yeah, they played Slaton snaps. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.800 I was I thought it was about fourty six. I 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.520 think they played like seventy totally defense. They were in 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.840 a kind of a jam because they didn't have Kingsley 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.159 Kiki in the fold. Yea, he just had got you know, 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.800 just getting working his way back. Dean Lawrie was down, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.639 Kenny Clark was down. So Lancaster ended up being like 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.120 one of the captains for the game, Mason Crosby and 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.680 and before we get into slat and I just want 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.280 to say, Tyler Lancaster played ten snaps. Most of them 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.000 were early on. Tyler Lancaster played like a beast. And 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.320 that doesn't get said enough because he's just he is. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.440 He's one of those gritty, just kind of gap fillers 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.720 in the defense. But my god, you need guys like 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.840 that in your scheme because when Kingsley kicks down or 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.640 Kenny Clark is down, you can't just start finding these 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.280 guys off the street and plugging in three twenty pound men. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.600 You've gotta have guys that can play. Tyler Lancaster can 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.800 play for t J. Slayton, though to go forty six 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.600 snaps at three and thirty pounds, you know, I think 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.640 there probably was that conditioning aspect of it. But when 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.640 he was talking to us last week, he was mentioning 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.560 how he was really inviting that he wanted to play. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.960 He wanted to be out there. And I also have 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.800 to throw out a quick hat tip too to Jack 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.679 Heflin as well, the rookie out of uh Iowa. So 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.960 another defensive lineman here. Packers need options, and I thought 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.280 he's another guy that that kind of contributed. There had 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.360 forty snaps as well in this game. Um, but Slayton, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.919 I mean, when you just look at a pure measurable standpoint, 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:57.400 you dream of defensive linemen that looked like Slayton does. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.920 And he has to put it together. Jerry Montgomery was saying, 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.639 there's there's things that he has to learn and he 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.639 has to translate to the football field. But he he 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.399 is a guy with with some big pause and I 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.159 think he has a big future in front of him 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.320 if he can figure out all those nuances out of 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.720 the game. Yeah, what did you think as far as 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.560 some of these young guys in the defensive backfield, Obviously 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.800 Ento had the pick. I thought Vernon Scott he had 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.000 a big pass breakup on the third down. Um. There, 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.600 you know the Packers are. The Packers know who their 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.720 frontline guys are in the secondary. They really know who 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.160 their front line guys are across the board with this team. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.280 Other than the guard situation. We've been talking about a 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.560 lot on offense, but there's there's a lot of competition 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.960 here with regard to whether it's going to be roster spots, 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.679 practice squad spots with a lot of these uh, A 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.200 lot of these young guys and defensive the defensive secondary 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.000 is uh. Um is no exception to that and UH 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.640