1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz, were coming to you here 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field West. Over the weekend, 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the Packers got their pre season underway to seven loss 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans. But it wasn't about the final 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: score necessarily, as it never really is in the preseason. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: First and foremost, this game was well, yeah, the Baltimore Ravens, 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: who are now on a five or six year winning 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: streak in the in the preseason, but that aside. This game, 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: first and foremost was about quarterback Jordan's love. Um. We 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: talked about it all last week, a lot of anticipation, 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: a big spotlight on the young man. Saturday night at 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. What do you think, Yeah, I thought it 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: was a good performance, not a great performance. Jordan's it. 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: I think there were some moments there as as Matt 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Laflour talked about letting it rip a little bit more. 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of times and we've seen 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: that in practice too. Somebody asked me this inside of inbox, 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of answering it. You know about 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: how much surprise is you from what you see in 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: the preseason games as opposed to what you see in practice, 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: And certainly that does it does happen, but a lot 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: of times I think the preseason is a continuation of 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: what you've been seeing for the past few weeks. And 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: really that's been the story for Jordan's Loves so far. 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: It's an extremely talented twenty two year old man that 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: can really throw a football, and it's just been a 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: matter of finding those moments when he's in a rhythm 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: and building on those because I'll tell you what, when 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: he gets into that run and he can, you know, 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: kind of string together some passes, it looks the way 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: it's supposed to look, but it's making sure that you 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: can stay on that trend. It's the hardest position to 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: play in all of sports. I will say that forever, 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: just because of all the variables, the fact that there's 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: eleven players on the other side of the field. Any 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: movement that they make changes those variables. So for Love, 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: it's it's about trying to make sure that he can 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: stay up on that playing within himself. As Matt Lafleur 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: kept saying, trusting his footwork, trusting what he's seeing, playing instinctively, 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: but all things considered, it's still or excuse me, twelve 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: of seventeen yards and a touchdown a hundred ten pass 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: rating a good first step for Jordan's love. Yeah, absolutely 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: he It took a little bit to get going. The 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: first two possessions were three and outs. The Packers were 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: not running the ball with any effectiveness, which we'll get 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: to a little bit later on here as well. But 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: then drive number three, third and nine, a really nice pass, 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: good route, good catch all that over the middle to 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: j Sternberger, and that kind of jump started Jordan's love. 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: It got him going. Then all of a sudden it 53 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: was boom, boom, boom, hitting some passes um you know, 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: in succession there and then after the quarter quarter break, 55 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: excuse me, flipping directions going the other way. The screen 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: passed to kyl and Hill, the rookie seventh round pick 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: out of Mississippi State, and gets a couple of good 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: blocks from his linement out there and takes it in 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So the Packers get on the board 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: there at that moment, I think, obviously there are a 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: couple of plays that Jordan's Love would like to have back, 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: probably more than any other. The fourth and two where 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur says, Okay, you're staying out there, We're going 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: for it, and then whatever the play action keeper that 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: was called Love turned the wrong way when he took 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: the snap, so the whole play action, whatever it was 67 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be, didn't develop, and he kind of ended 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: up just having to, you know, throw it up there 69 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: and hope, hope that Devin Funcius could come down with it. 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: Those are the kind of things like, yeah, it's a mental, 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: mental mistake and it's unfortunate, but again that's that's just 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: another thing for him to learn from because that's happened 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: to every quarterback who's ever been out there, and hey, 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: if it's going to happen, it might as well happen 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: in a preseason game. Absolutely, And those are just the 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: reps that you have to take the moment, you have 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: to learn from and really make sure they don't happen. Again. 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't really read too much into those. You've seen 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: all the young quarterbacks. So you can go back and 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: watch Aaron Rodgers film in two thousand five from his 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: first preseason. The bigger thing for me is seeing the 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: game continually slowed down for Jordan's love and wanting to 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: see that continue to happen, because the less that a 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: quarterback has to think about what they're doing, the more 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: that you're gonna see those results really come to them. 86 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: And you know, some of the throws he did make 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: in this game, as we've seen in practice. You know, 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: he has a world class arm. It's what made him 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: a first round pick. The fact that he has that 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: type of ability. You know, I think as time we 91 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: get kind of away from his you know, his last 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: season at Utah State, you see the fact that Utah 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: State still hasn't really had anyone drafted since Jordan's loved, 94 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: you start to understand maybe why he did certain things 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: is last year that some people perceived as a step back. 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: He has all the ability of the world. He is 97 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: a guy that I think you can see players rally around. 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: It's a different type of confidence in Aaron Rodgers. You know, 99 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: he's not a huge, ext reverted, you know, kind of 100 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: guy in there, you know, kind of boisterous, but he 101 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: still commands the huddle and listening to Kyle and Hill 102 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: talk about that and some of these offensive players. There 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: is a steadiness with Jordan's Love that you really like. 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: It's just that once that whistle blows and once that 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: ball is snapped, seeing things move a little bit faster 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: for him. He did suffer the shoulder injury before halftime. 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: He was not practicing on Monday. Matt Lafleur left the 108 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: door open for him to potentially still practice this week, 109 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe play against the Jets. If he can get these 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: last two preseason games. I think that would be really 111 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: beneficial for him now down the line as he develops. Yeah, 112 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: we'll be following the health reports on Love with regard 113 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: to these joint practices with New York. The preseason game 114 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: coming up. Really unfortunate because Matt Lafleur was using his 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: time outs at the end of the first half trying 116 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: to set everything up so that Jordan's Love could have 117 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: a two minute drill there at the end of the 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: first half and ends up with only I think it 119 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: was fifty three seconds on the clock. And then the 120 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: very first play, unfortunately from the blind side, he doesn't 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: see the guy gets his arm raked, the ball comes out, um, 122 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: there's a there's a fumble, there. Matt Lafleur initially sort 123 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: of said Love maybe took too deep of a drop there. 124 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Then after reviewing the film really kind of absolved him 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: and said, you know, there really wasn't anything uh differently 126 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: that that Love could have or should have done there, 127 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: but you know, a little bit of a tweak to 128 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: the shoulder. So they held him out. He did not 129 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: play in the second half, and he did not practice 130 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: on Monday. So um but by all accounts optimistic that 131 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: that he's going to be back in fairly short order here. Yeah, 132 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any real long term concerns there 133 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: at all. It's more about how quick these timelines I 134 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: remember thinking back to I think it happened with Brett 135 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Hunley a little bit too during his time in Green Bay. 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: When you get hurt during the preseason and miss those opportunities, 137 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: those are such huge reps for guys to be able 138 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: to take. So certainly the Packers want to get him 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: back sooner than later. Kirk ben Kurt was able to 140 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: get the entire second half. The second year quarterback that 141 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: actually spent a number of years on the practice squad 142 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta he had an opportunity to get out there. 143 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: I thought you saw him throw the ball and definitely 144 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: fearless back there. Had a couple of hours though that 145 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to try to clean up. But uh, 146 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna play in the preseason for the 147 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: most part. That's what Matt Lafore started hinted at. So 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: if it's not love on Saturday, it'll be a lot 149 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: of Ben Kurt and potentially, as they said, they'll work 150 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: out some quarterbacks this week and see if there's another 151 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: guy they need to add. Yeah, it'll be a situation 152 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: to follow as the week goes along. We'll get to 153 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: some other positions here as well. 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I heard a lot 164 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: of good things about the cheese skirts too. So I 165 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: know you're not a fan of cheese, but but only 166 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: raw cheese. Oh you like you like fried cheese? Yeah, okay, 167 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I just don't want to Let's see, I learned something 168 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: new about you every day. Um. Well, we mentioned Kyle 169 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: and Hill. He gets the Packers touchdown on the screen pass. 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Not a whole lot to really be able to see 171 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: other than that. With regard to the three running backs, 172 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about that battle for the number 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: three running back job. Hill, Patrick Taylor, Dexter Williams. Dexter 174 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Williams with some nice carries late in the fourth quarter 175 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: when he got in there. But but on balance, Um, 176 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: the coaching staff from Matt Lafleur to Nathaniel Hackett to 177 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Adam Stanovich offensive line coach and run game coordinator, not 178 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: happy with, uh, with the Packers inability to run the football. 179 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: And uh, you know really they talked about it not 180 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: not being mental errors and whatnot up front, just a 181 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a lack of density, not carrying over 182 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: the techniques and the things that they're being taught they 183 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, Matt Fleur said it after Saturday night's game, 184 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: the Texans won the battle in the trenches. And one 185 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: reaction to that now, nobody's blaming any specific individual, but 186 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: one reaction to that now is the three headed competition 187 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: for the two guard spots now has become a foreheaded 188 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: competition because in Monday's practice, rookie fourth round draft pick 189 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: from Old Miss Royce Newman was worked into that rotation 190 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: that also includes Ben Braden, Lucas Patrick, and John Runyon. 191 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: So another guy, another young guy in the mix here 192 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: west for a for a starting guard spot. With Elton 193 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: Jenkins filling in for David Botry at left tackle, Packers 194 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: are going to see what they what they have in 195 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: this young man. Take a little bit of a story 196 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: trip down memory lane, if you will. Packers of their 197 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: offensive line position, it tends to be an older position 198 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: position where the experience kind of of times ways out. 199 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: And there's two episodes that kind of always ring true 200 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: to my mind. Obviously, we always talked about the Corey 201 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Linsley story, the fact that this is a guy that 202 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: took the two reps, the entire training camp, all the preseason. 203 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: J C. Treader ends up suffering. I believe it was 204 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: the knee injury. Corey is suddenly the starter. Boom, here 205 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: you go, Welcome to the NFL. The other one, and 206 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: we talked so much about David Baktr going to left 207 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: tackle when Brian Bulaga got injured at the Family Night 208 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: scrimmage back in two thousand thirteen. But what we very 209 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: rarely talked about was in that game or in that scrimmage. 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Excuse me, that practice at Lambou Field was the first 211 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: time box Tr was actually starting to take starting reps. 212 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: They actually started working them at right tackle. My point 213 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: being with the stories, there comes a time during every 214 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: training camp where the rookies sometimes you do take the 215 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: wheels off a little bit and see how they function. 216 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Can they go out and swim a little bit in 217 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: some deeper water. That was this day for Newman. The 218 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: fact that the Packers threw them in there right guard. 219 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: They used Branden at left guard. They did that, I 220 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: believe for two or three plays and then with the ones. 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Yet it wasn't like they switched over to the twos 222 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: with the ones then taking a look at running and 223 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: left guard and back to Lucas Patrick, who was the 224 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: start of their last season. Yes, and and running and 225 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: Patrick were the starters on Saturday night in preseason game. 226 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: So they are casting a wide net here and listening 227 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: to Matt la floor talk about this and into credit. 228 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: You know, Adam Stanovich was right out in front of 229 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: it to bench sermons. Everybody wants to run the ball better. 230 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: But Matt Lafleur really laid it down. And even when 231 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: he was talking about the joint practices this week with 232 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: the Jets, Mike, one of the things he said is 233 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: he wants to see how these guards handle a different 234 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: team in these practice settings. So for Roy Snwman, a 235 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: guy that's been so multiple has played all these different positions, 236 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: even joked about, you know, some of the time he's 237 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: spent at tight end, you know, in the past, this 238 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: is a big moment for him and it's a big 239 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: moment for all those guys because there, as I said 240 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: to you all along, Mike, I'm pretty confident throughout the 241 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: course of the year, they're gonna need most of those guards. 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: It's most of those offensive linemen to navigate the whole season. 243 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Whoever ends up at left and right guard, with a 244 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: few exceptions, that's usually not the way it ends by 245 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: the end of the season on the old line. So 246 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: for Newman seeing how are he responds to this. He 247 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: actually was the highest graded offensive lineman the Packers had 248 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: by Pro Football Focus in the preseason game, albeit it 249 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: came late against some reserves. This is the chance that 250 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: he was hoping for, and now he's getting a chat 251 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: to show that, hey, maybe in year one he can 252 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: be that next offensive lineman that plays as a rookie. Yeah. 253 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: And we should say as well with regard to the 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: offensive line, we found out Saturday night there were thirty 255 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: players on the Packers ninety man roster that did not 256 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: suit up for the game. The vast majority of the 257 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: starters did not suit up. So what you had on 258 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line was essentially your number one guys on 259 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: the interior center Josh Meyer's the rookie, and then the 260 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: guards that we've been talking about. But then the reserves 261 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: at tackle in yosh Naiman on the left side and 262 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: veteran Dennis Kelly on the right side. And I'm not 263 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: trying to make excuses for guys, but that is a 264 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: combination essentially that we had not seen during training camp 265 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: because it was a it was a mixture it was 266 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: a mixture of the ones and the two's. UM. Now, 267 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: the coaches didn't talk about that because they're looking individually. 268 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: They still want to see the execution and whatnot. Um, 269 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: there are obviously some issues with regard to combo blocks 270 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: and a lot of things that do take some chemistry 271 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: and some timing and that kind of thing. So those 272 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: are the things they'll be looking to see improve as 273 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: things go along. But the other point, though, is that 274 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: rookies second round pick Josh Meyers at center. UM, folks, 275 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I encourage you check out Larry mccarren's rock Report that 276 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: that is on Packers dot Com. On Myer's debut there 277 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: in the in the preseason game, really no disappointments, no 278 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: issues as far as as far as wondering if this 279 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: young man is going to be the Week one starter 280 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: at center. He's the guy. Yeah, he can play it. 281 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: You know. Matt Laufer has already said Elton Jenkins and 282 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: Billy Turner probably won't play during the preseason. I'd be 283 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: curious to see how long Myers is out there too. 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it's not to say he's 285 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: He's not without fault. There was that one play. I 286 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: think he kind of got blown up a little bit 287 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: early on as a guy I was able to get 288 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: into the backfield. But generally speaking for you know, there's 289 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: that line that David Batar said about Okay, you're six 290 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: five or three ten? What what's wrong with you? Why 291 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: are you at center? Are you not a good athlete? No? 292 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: You could really see his athleticism in this game. And 293 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: when you're going up against you know, a lot of reserves. 294 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: What do you always look for in these games, Mike, 295 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if your quarterback, punter, safety, offensive lineman. 296 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: You want to see guys who dominate the competition because 297 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: athletically you just are better. You're cut above. Josh Myers 298 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: looked to cut above to me in this game, just 299 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: the way he moves. Obviously getting down some of the 300 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Caden stuff with Rogers is going to be huge, But 301 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: you go back to that screen pass to Hill, the 302 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: fact that he's able to get out in space. And 303 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: I love what Larry said in his interview UH with 304 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: with Myers after the game, saying, you know when he 305 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: taught it back in the day, it was you're not 306 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: a dancer, so don't dance, you know, don't go dancing 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: with a dancer, right, the fact that those guys are 308 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: a lot quicker, they're a lot faster. Just get your 309 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: body on him. Myers did that and he ultimately kind 310 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: of gave him, gave Kylan Hill the block that got 311 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: him into the end zone. Really talented young man. You 312 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: can see why this guy was a second round pick. Yeah, 313 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: absolutely well. Shifting gears to the defensive side of the ball. 314 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: The the defense only allowed and again it was primarily reserves. 315 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: The only really projected starter for Week one who was 316 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup on Saturday night was Chris Barnes. Now. 317 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: The other one who did play at the beginning of 318 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: the game was rookie first round pick Eric Stokes. Were 319 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: expecting him to certainly be in that mix for a 320 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: lot of playing time early on as well, but Packers 321 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: only gave up the one touchdown until a second touchdown 322 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: late in the game. Otherwise it was field goals, the 323 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: Texans taking advantage of some good field position because of 324 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: some good punt returns. Packers had some special teams breakdowns unfortunately, 325 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: and the failed fourth down situations that that gave them 326 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: good field position, but a few guys that stood out 327 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: to me West and I'll get your thoughts here. Um obviously, 328 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: or in Burke's um real solid game at inside linebacker, 329 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: kaban into getting um an interception and seemed to acquit 330 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: himself well at at cornerback. And then also t J. Slayton, 331 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: the rookie fifth round pick on the defensive line. Now, 332 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: i will say with Slayton, I thought early in the game, 333 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Slayton and Lancaster, Tyler Lancaster, the veteran from Northwestern, they 334 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: were they were kind of anchoring the middle of the 335 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: D line and Houston seemed to have some trouble running 336 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the ball. Then in the second half, when Slayton and 337 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Lancaster were still in there, it kind of looked to 338 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: me like they ran out of gas a little bit. Now, 339 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: this is you know, you only get so many reps 340 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: in every practice, and then suddenly they were in a 341 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: they were in a preseason game, playing you know, the 342 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: vast majority of it. So I'm not surprised they got 343 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: a little tired. Um, this was certainly an opportunity for 344 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: them to uh to work on their wind in their 345 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: and their stamina. I don't know how anybody given just 346 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: certain training camp practice could go out and play fifty 347 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: snaps all of a sudden, not get a little bit 348 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: tired out there as a three plus pound individual. But 349 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: I thought Slayton for his for his rookie debut in 350 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: the early going of the game, I thought he really 351 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: looked like he belonged out there. Yeah, they played Slaton snaps. 352 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: I was I thought it was about fourty six. I 353 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: think they played like seventy totally defense. They were in 354 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: a kind of a jam because they didn't have Kingsley 355 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Kiki in the fold. Yea, he just had got you know, 356 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: just getting working his way back. Dean Lawrie was down, 357 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark was down. So Lancaster ended up being like 358 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: one of the captains for the game, Mason Crosby and 359 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: and before we get into slat and I just want 360 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: to say, Tyler Lancaster played ten snaps. Most of them 361 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: were early on. Tyler Lancaster played like a beast. And 362 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't get said enough because he's just he is. 363 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: He's one of those gritty, just kind of gap fillers 364 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: in the defense. But my god, you need guys like 365 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: that in your scheme because when Kingsley kicks down or 366 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark is down, you can't just start finding these 367 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: guys off the street and plugging in three twenty pound men. 368 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: You've gotta have guys that can play. Tyler Lancaster can 369 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: play for t J. Slayton, though to go forty six 370 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: snaps at three and thirty pounds, you know, I think 371 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: there probably was that conditioning aspect of it. But when 372 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: he was talking to us last week, he was mentioning 373 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: how he was really inviting that he wanted to play. 374 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: He wanted to be out there. And I also have 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: to throw out a quick hat tip too to Jack 376 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Heflin as well, the rookie out of uh Iowa. So 377 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: another defensive lineman here. Packers need options, and I thought 378 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: he's another guy that that kind of contributed. There had 379 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: forty snaps as well in this game. Um, but Slayton, 380 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean, when you just look at a pure measurable standpoint, 381 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: you dream of defensive linemen that looked like Slayton does. 382 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: And he has to put it together. Jerry Montgomery was saying, 383 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: there's there's things that he has to learn and he 384 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: has to translate to the football field. But he he 385 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: is a guy with with some big pause and I 386 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: think he has a big future in front of him 387 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: if he can figure out all those nuances out of 388 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, what did you think as far as 389 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: some of these young guys in the defensive backfield, Obviously 390 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: Ento had the pick. I thought Vernon Scott he had 391 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: a big pass breakup on the third down. Um. There, 392 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: you know the Packers are. The Packers know who their 393 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: frontline guys are in the secondary. They really know who 394 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: their front line guys are across the board with this team. 395 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Other than the guard situation. We've been talking about a 396 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: lot on offense, but there's there's a lot of competition 397 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: here with regard to whether it's going to be roster spots, 398 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: practice squad spots with a lot of these uh, A 399 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: lot of these young guys and defensive the defensive secondary 400 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: is uh. Um is no exception to that and UH 401 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: and guys like Ento and Scott I think got themselves 402 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: off to a good start here. As far as these 403 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: three preseason games, I've been high on Vernon Scott since 404 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: he came out at TCU. I think he's a guy 405 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: that he was only a one year starter there, didn't 406 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: even get a chance to get his pro day. We 407 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: were talking about the scouting comment the kid couldn't even 408 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: do his pro day. Uh, And I really would love 409 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: although you don't want to do it now because you 410 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: don't want anybody tearing their hamstrings. But I really it's 411 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: a shame that we don't have an official forty time 412 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: on Vernon Scott. I think he'd really impress some people 413 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: with that. All that being said, the guy I just 414 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: asked for an opportunity. He was at his press conference 415 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: on Tuesday talking about the seventh round tour and thirty 416 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: six pick overall tattoo he got on his left arm. 417 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: That isn't a chip on his shoulder. That's not a 418 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: motivational technique. He's that proud to be in the National 419 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Football League. And he comes from a he has a 420 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: really interesting backstory down in Texas, and and I think 421 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: he plays that way. He's one of the guys that 422 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: when you hear him speak and you see the way 423 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: he plays on the field, you can tell how much 424 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: this whole thing means to him. Now that being said, 425 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: that's safety competition is really tight. Henry Black worked his 426 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: way into that midway through last season. He started next 427 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: to Scott. Will Redman is coming back from his injury 428 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: He's basically sort of been that dime guy here, at 429 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: least he was last season after Raven Green was missing 430 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: um in in his gains. Speaking of TCU and his 431 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: former teammate, Scott's teammate at TCU, who had a litany 432 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: of knee injuries and other issues, that kid has made 433 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: more plays than he hasn't in practice on the scout team. 434 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a really tight competition for the backfield. 435 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: Then you've got guys like you know, Chamargine, John Charles. 436 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: Now he's trying to defend that backup slot position, that 437 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: nickel job to Shannon Sullivan. So I thought, I thought 438 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: John Charles there there were a couple of a couple 439 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: of hesitations, a couple of you know, maybe rough moments. Early, 440 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: I thought the more he played, the more he seemed 441 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: to kind of settle in. And again it's like I'm 442 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm watching from the press box and it's like, Okay, 443 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: does this guy look like he belongs on an NFL field? 444 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: First couple of snaps, you're kind of like, you know, 445 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: you're not quite sure. But once he once he settled in, 446 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: then it's like, yeah, this this guy belongs. Fifth round 447 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: pick from app State and uh, I think he's Uh. 448 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: I think he's another one of these reserve defensive backs 449 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: that that the Packers. Ultimately, if anybody goes down, anybody 450 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: gets hurt, you know, he's gonna he's gonna have to play. Yeah, 451 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: and he has. You know, again, he's picking up a 452 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: new position. He played mostly on the perimeter at app 453 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: State and made a little bit of an adjustment there 454 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: is last year, and I think they put him in 455 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: more of that showtime kind of star roll a little bit. 456 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: But that being said, I find it really interesting. Green 457 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Bay just pointed to him and said, you're you're gonna 458 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: learn slot. You're gonna go learn nicol. That's where we're 459 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: gonna start you. Um. And now the other thing is 460 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: too as we go into this Jets game, we had 461 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: Kevin King's back in the fold now for Green Bay. 462 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: So I really would love to see Eric Stokes play, 463 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the Jets game or whether it's 464 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: the Bills. I think that's a young man that really 465 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: could use the reps. He's seen Davante Adams in practice 466 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: a lot the last couple of weeks. Be curious to 467 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: see what he looks like when he sees more of 468 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: these guys that are of his similar our age, and 469 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, not necessarily a four 470 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl receiver, because I think there's a lot 471 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: of ability there as well. Yeah, well, we mentioned the 472 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: running game. We talked about the run defense in the 473 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: second half. Matt Lafleur talked about that not really being 474 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: up to par and um and the Packers still have 475 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: some issues on special teams. I think it was it 476 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: was certainly disappointing for Mo Drayton. Nobody said this was 477 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: gonna be easy for Mo Drayton. Right, There's there's an 478 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately a long history here of of struggles in this 479 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: phase of the game. And you know, there's there's no 480 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: final judgment being made after one preseason game. But Packers 481 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: still have they have their things to work on, they 482 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: have their issues. A couple of punt returns went against them. 483 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Amari Amari Rodgers had one nice pump return, but then 484 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: you know, muff the one punt by the goal line. 485 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: You certainly cannot do that. So a lot of things 486 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: here for the Packers to work on in you know, 487 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: really a key thing in all three phases for the 488 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: Packers to work on as they go from the first 489 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: preseason game to the second one, and there are some 490 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: really well stable, you know, legitimized special teamers on this 491 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: roster or in Burkes, who again, as we talked about, 492 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: had a big game defensively, Tye Summers, Vernon Scott was 493 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: one of the top leading snap guys. They did lose 494 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: Randy Ramsey, but you know, Will Redmond is back. There 495 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys that are pretty well regarded 496 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: on these special teams units. So while most of them 497 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: weren't involved in some of these errors on special teams, 498 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: the reason my antenna went up is that's the standard 499 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: if you want to carve out a roster spot, if 500 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: you want to be able to earn a spot on 501 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: those core four, you've got to perform. So whether it's 502 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: the jam ors, whether it's the gunners, whether it's the 503 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: inline guys. As they mentioned one of the blocks kind 504 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: of coming loose on the j K. Scott punt that 505 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: sort of rushed the effort. You guys have to step 506 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: up if you want to earn a roster spot, if 507 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: you want to be on that team when they travel 508 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: to New Orleans, you have to do that because there 509 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: are known quantities on the special teams unit. In addition 510 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: to the changes they're trying to make, they've also made 511 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: a commitment to some of those guys. The Birks is 512 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: the Summers, the guys that they know, Okay, you can 513 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: play them anyway. They know the scheme. They're going to 514 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: be accountable because at the end of the day, is 515 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: as cool as the explosive players are as neat as 516 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: it is to talk about a kickoff return or a 517 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: fake field goal or what have you. You just need 518 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: to be consistent. You can't be gashed. And you know, 519 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: obviously they had the one punt come loose that was corrected. 520 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Winslow was also let go, So they got to 521 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: make another step forward, and I think there's gonna be 522 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: a chance to really kind of reset themselves here against 523 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: the Jets and hopefully put a better foot forward. Yeah, 524 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Packers are looking for looking for those guys who are 525 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: going to join those core guys on special teams and 526 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: and get things turned around in that phase of the game. 527 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: So with that, we'll call it a wrap on this 528 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 529 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: our coverage of training camp and continues every single day 530 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: on packers dot Com for West, I'm Mike. Thanks for 531 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody, See you next time.