1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone. 2 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're going 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: to talk about a woman who suffered catastrophic burns using 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Meghan Markle's bath salt recipe and is now trying to 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: sue her an update on a guy we talked about 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: back in July who caused his kid to die in 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: a hot car, and well how he just got back 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: from a Maui vacation. We'll also talk about the viral 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: photo that's going around showing a raccoon using what appears 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: to be a meth pipe, a composer's brain making music 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: after his death, and of course, leaving tampons in your 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: badge for a year. All that and more on today's episode, 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Let's get started with this Megan Markle story. All right, 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: So this girl is saying she watched Megan Markle's show 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: on Netflix and was inspired to make her friend a 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: gift when she saw Megan making these bath salts on 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: the show. So she ended up copying the recipe from 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: the show, which included epsom salt, Himalayan salt, arnica oil, 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: and lavender oil and decided to test it out before 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: giving it to her friend. Well, she ended up getting 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: severe burns from the mixture, and now she's threatening to 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: sue Megan for ten million dollars. 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: This is such bullshit. 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, like for I mean, first of all, like, why 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: would you even watch her show? It just seems leame, 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: But okay, you decide to watch her show whatever, Like 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: you're like honestly watching the show and taking notes to 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: how to do this. I feel like this chick was 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: sitting around and like, how could I see this person? 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I think it was a created story. 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't even like Megan Markle, and I'm gonna defend 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: her in this story because this is absolutely ridiculous. It 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: really is. 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Like, so this woman has diabetes, okay, which is very 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: important to the story because anyone that has diabetes knows 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: that you have to pay extra attention to your legs 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: and your feet because of the increased risk of infections. Right, 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: and you're not supposed to use EPs and salts again, 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: something that every person with diabetes should know because it 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: could dry out your skin and create cracks, which could 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: cause bacteria that it's on your skin to get in there. 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: And the problem is is that people have neuropathy, and 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: neuropathy is when there is pathology in the nerves and 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: sometimes you're not able to have sensation in your feet, 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: so you can't tell if you're. 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Having a problem. 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: It causes the increase in your blood sugar causes difficulty 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: in healing. And this is exactly what happened like that. 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: This is why they advise against it. She said that 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: she got all of these complications, that she got sores 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: and blisters on her legs that turned into ulcers. Because 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: you have with the nerve damage and insufficient blood flow, 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: it just makes it difficult to get for these wounds 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: to heal. 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: So she created these. 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: Wounds using these epps and then of course they're not 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: healing well because of the diabetes as well. I think 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people that have diabetes like, don't take 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: this advice seriously. I remember my sister was dating a 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: guy back when we were younger, when we were teenagers, 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: and he had type one diabetes and just kept getting 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: tattoos on his legs and they just like never healed right. 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: He was always having issues like having to go on 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: antibiotics and this and that to heal these things. And 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: it's like it's very serious. You have to take it seriously. 66 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: So if they say not to use epps and salts 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: when you're diabetic, and you use them, I don't understand 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: how that's Megan Markle's fault. Yeah, exactly, And like I 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: don't even understand what she's trying to get her on 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: like that saying the ingredients weren't right or something like 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: you didn't follow the directions as you should have considering 72 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: your medical condition. So what is the lawsuit against her? 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Like if she made an apple pie any were allergic. 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: To apples, is it her fault? Yeah? 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't even understand. I don't even understand it, even 76 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: if she didn't have diabetes and she had some kind 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: of reaction to it like that, How is this Megan 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: Markle's fault. I don't even understand. Like so and same here, 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: like I think that she's insufferable to like I'm not 80 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: interested in this show at all. I just think I'm 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: overhearing about like boohoo, owes me with her. But like 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: she's trying to say that, she's trying to say she 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: wants seventy five thousand dollars to pay for her immediate 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: medical bills and then an extra a minimum, and then 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: ten What was the ten million about, because that's like 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: a shit ton of money. So she wants ten million 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: dollars from Megan marcle, Netflix and R twelve Productions for 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: their quote reckless disregard for public safety and it's her 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: similar conduct in the future. Get over yourself, she said, 90 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: she's willing to settle in court. I bet you are, 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: because this is a fake lawsuit. Yeah, what's wrong with 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: the judiciary system in the United States because lawsuits like 93 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: this should not be allowed. Yeah, because I think on 94 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: that show she was also saying like, oh, like I 95 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: put these mini pretzels in a bag for someone who 96 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: sleeps over my house. Whatever she was talking about, Like, uh, okay, 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: so if a person chokes on a pretzel, that's like 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 2: her fault. 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Like the whole thing. 100 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: You could say that about every single TV show that's 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: ever been around about people that say they do certain things. 102 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't, I don't even see the 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: correlation here. It's it's and you're right, this is the 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: reason that people think law suits are are are frivolous 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: because of something like this, like you don't and I 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: hope to god they don't even give this chick a dollar. 107 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: No, I really hope not either. 108 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: Like I I honestly want to say that this woman 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: almost like induced this on herself on purpose, just so 110 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: she could come up with a lawsuit to try to 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: make a lot of money, or she. 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Something happened to her and she talked to some idiot 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: that advised her to sue these people, which I don't 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: even know how a lawyer took this on. I mean, 115 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: it's just so ridiculous, Like she she has no claim 116 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: she did it herself. She didn't. She didn't look into 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the ingredients herself, like Megan Markle is just not responsible 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: for that. And Megan Marco didn't say make these bad 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: salts or you're gonna get killed, Like she watched the show, 120 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: she made the decision to make them, she didn't read 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 1: the warning labels, and she has the content. 122 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: I just I really don't believe that there's any person 123 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: that's watching that show that's just like, oh, let me 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: take some notes and do what she's saying to do. 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: Like it just the whole story just doesn't even sound true. 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: It's not like and like people are are they because 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: it doesn't like I have really not heard anybody say 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: that they that they like this show. I feel like 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: they're getting viewers because people are like, is this chick 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: serious right now? 131 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: Also, she actually she's the first person in the world 132 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: to sell like crushed flowers, to put as a garnish 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: on things like Terrain's been selling that for over a decade, 134 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: so relax, and people have been doing that forever. Martha 135 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: Stewart's been doing shit like that forever. She thinks she's 136 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: like the first Mark the Stewart, this innovative homemaker. Nobody 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: takes you seriously and none of your stuff is creative. 138 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's move on in a less hater, maybe not a 139 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: less hater attitude towards this thing with this composer, So 140 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Alvin Lucier, who's this legendary music composer. He died back 141 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. He was one of the first 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: artists to use brain waves to compose music, and since 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: his death, scientists have been able to create a lab 144 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: grown brain from the composer's cells that essentially are creating 145 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: new music. All Right, I'm gonna try to explain this 146 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: to you guys as much as I understand it, and 147 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure I one hundred percent understand it. 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: But here goes all right, So this is an art 149 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: installation meets biotechnology, so you can actually go and see this. 150 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: And there's tiny three D organs that are sealed and 151 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: displayed on raised pedestals at this art gallery that resemble 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: developing human brains. There's like these little tiny brains and 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: their activity of these cells are sending signals to mallets 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: that strike these these brass plates and it sends ambient 155 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: sound that goes throughout the gallery. So it's not really technically, 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: like I don't really know how to explain this. 157 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: You have your brain and your cells and it's just 158 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: there and they are his cells that are sending this music, 159 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: but it's not him as a conscious being sending this music. 160 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: So does that make sense? I feel like it's really 161 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: hard to understand. 162 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: So yeah. 163 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: So they so he was into this, and he donated 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: his blood when he was like eighty nine years old 165 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: to get this done because he was into the idea 166 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: of this. And from there they commissioned a Harvard Medical 167 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: School research program to turn his blood, get the white 168 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: blood cells out of his blood and turn them into 169 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: stem cells, which are capable of differentiating into various types 170 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: of specialized cells so they could they could be specialized 171 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: for brain cells. And then they got a neuroscientist and 172 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: grew neurono structures on top of mesh electrodes that are 173 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: able to both send signals and receive signals, So the 174 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: organs don't just produce sound, but they also receive it. 175 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: But the whole thing is is that so this is 176 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: actual like brain cells and brain tissue working, but it's 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: not actually like this guy consciously like sending these signals. 178 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: It's just kind of like an electron like an electronic response, 179 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: almost similar to like I don't know, let's say sometimes 180 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: if you cut off someone's leg or something like, the 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: muscle will still be twitching. Kind of It's like the 182 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: muscle cells are are technically still working and twitching, but 183 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: it's not your brain making the muscle move. I don't 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: know if that if that makes it more clear. So 185 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: I guess it's a step in. Like first of all, 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: I sit here and I'm just like why are we 187 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: doing this? Like what is the point of this? A 188 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: lot of things are like let's see what scientists could 189 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: do because the world's endless, but like I don't really 190 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: see how this is going to end well and be 191 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: a positive but whatever. People could do whatever they want 192 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: to do. I guess a lot of it questions because 193 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: you know, there's all this like AI stuff, right, and 194 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: people get in like but hurt about it because they 195 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: think it's going to impact their livelihoods and things like that, 196 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: where other people are just like, all right, well, let 197 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: me see how I could use this to my advantage. 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: So it's not really it's not really going on those lines, 199 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: because these cells don't really have any intention, like if 200 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: this music is being put out, and even if it's great, 201 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: it's not really like that guy thinking of it. It's 202 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: just like his cells actually just making the sound, which 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: I would think based on this, if you took blood 204 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: from me and did the same exact thing and made 205 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: this little mini brain and all that stuff, probably make 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: the same exact sounds, if that makes sense. Because it's 207 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: just brain cells. I don't know if it's specific to 208 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: like your your imagination and your consciousness. 209 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this just stems back to the 210 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: conversation we were having yesterday about Twitter and how when 211 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: they first made it they didn't really realize like, of 212 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: course somebody could use it for evil. So I think 213 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: we see things that are really cool that could come 214 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: out of it, like this installation in Australia. But then 215 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, inevitably somebody's gonna use this for something horrible, 216 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: especially the more advanced it gets, So we just have 217 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: to think of things like that. Yeah, because like right 218 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: now where it stands, I'm not sure that anybody. I mean, 219 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: this technology could be great for helping certain disease prosties 220 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: use for sure, but I'm not sure where it's going 221 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do with it. But like them, 222 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: some of the language they use in the article, I 223 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: don't really like of them saying like you know, an 224 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: artist could go on to live and you're just like nah, dude, 225 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: Like why don't you just let people die? That's where 226 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: we make room for new people, and like that's it, 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: Like that's why you shouldn't ethically, how are we continuing 228 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: to make artwork? And like who's getting compensation from that? 229 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: I mean, there's like a million things, and. 230 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: It's just it's just kind of like, dude, that you 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: get plenty of time on this earth. If you use 232 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: it wisely to do stuff and make your mark in 233 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: the world, you just don't need nobody needs to live 234 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 2: on forever like that. So I understand why some people 235 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: are like having an issue with it because it just 236 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: it's it's the same thing as like cryogenics and all 237 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: that stuff too, Like it's just kind of like use 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: your time here on earth wisely. And and then that's 239 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: how I look at it. I'm not I'm not into 240 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: like a lot of this this certain stuff because I 241 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: feel like it could just it could just get bad 242 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: one day. I mean, if you're able to really, at 243 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: some point in the future mimic someone's brain completely then 244 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: and and like they have this guy's consent, but he 245 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: doesn't even know what technology is possible at some point, 246 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: do you want them to just be able to like 247 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: grow brains and make art and not even have an 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: actual human attached to it. It's just it's just kind 249 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: of like, Okay, why don't we just stop? 250 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: So are you saying if he dies, he dies? Then 251 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: if he dies, he dies? Well. The thing is too, 252 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: is that. 253 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: There's there's something happening right now with like art and 254 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: the arts in general, that there are a lot I 255 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: know a lot of great artists and stuff, but there's 256 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: also like not a lot of great artists. There's not 257 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: a lot of great musicians. There's not a lot of 258 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: great people making movies. It seems like they're trying to 259 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: like rehash like all this other stuff of like old composers, 260 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: old artists, old musicians and things like that, right, and 261 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: old movies, like you go to the movies, there's like 262 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: no new ideas. It's just like, oh, well, let's see 263 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: how we could get back the old stuff. 264 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: Well, it was successful because we didn't have technology or 265 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: as many things in life distracting us, and people were 266 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: working to excel at something. I mean, I think, you know, 267 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: I had said before, like we don't often see great 268 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: painters anymore, like Michaelangelo or Da Vinci or somebody like that, 269 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: because there was nothing to do back then, and these 270 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: people could really take all their time and excel at 271 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: doing a craft like that, and that is just going away. 272 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's the thing. Like when you take 273 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: boredom away from people, then you take creativity away from 274 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: people to a certain extent. And it's really sad actually, 275 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: because I do think about that even with my kids, 276 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: with the little kids, you know, when they're because it 277 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: wasn't as much of a problem with you because you're 278 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, you didn't have a device as much as 279 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: as they have access to now. But you just think, 280 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: like I learned some of my greatest crafting and just 281 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: my skills as a human just being very bored a lot. 282 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: And I'm intending to do that with them this summer. 283 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: They're going to have a lot of bored. 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Time, because that's how you figure out what you are 285 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: into and what you like. Yeah, and my new cousin, 286 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: Leila Rabtopolis wrote a really good article for The Financial 287 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Times last year called being Bored is a Good Thing, 288 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: and I think everybody should read it because it's good 289 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: for your health at the end of the day, just 290 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: like having nothing to do sometimes. This episode is brought 291 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: to you by the Gross Room. All right, guys, so 292 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: this week's high Profile. That's this section is part two 293 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: on the Lori Value Chad Dave Bell murders, and this 294 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: one we really get into the autopsies of the four 295 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: main victims, so check that out. 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Yeah, head over 306 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: to the groscerroom dot com now to sign up. 307 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this this scumbag dude. Last year, 308 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: we reported on this dad who left his daughter in 309 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: a hot car while he played video games inside and 310 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: she ended up dying. It was one hundred and nine 311 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: degrees in Arizona that day, so he had been charged 312 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: with felony first degree murder and child abuse and somehow 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: got approved to go on a Hawaiian vacation with the 314 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: rest of his family while he awaits the trial. Didn't 315 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: we get into like a fight because I said, like, 316 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: what grown adult loser is playing video games while his 317 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: wife is a doctor at work, and you were trying 318 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: to tell me that he wasn't a loser. 319 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Or I did. First of all, I didn't say he 320 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: wasn't a loser. I just like I think people plenty 321 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: of adult men play video games and they aren't killing 322 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: their kids in cars. Like, so there is a world 323 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: in which you can be an adult and blow off 324 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: some steam and play video games, but you have you're 325 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: responsible at the same time. Unlike this person who left 326 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: his kid in a car to die because he said 327 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: she was taking a nap and he left her in 328 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: the car, didn't want to disturb her, and he left 329 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: the ac on. But like most modern cars, the car 330 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: automatically shuts off even though it's running after thirty minutes, 331 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: So that's exactly what happened. 332 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, loser anyway, Like, I'm sorry you don't you don't 333 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: have like when your when your wife's at work and 334 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: you're in charge your babysitting your kids. You know my 335 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: favorite term, when you're in charge of of three little kids. 336 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: Didn't they have three kids a two year old, a 337 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: five year old, and a nine year old or something 338 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: like you're you're not playing video games, Like that's that's 339 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: not happening, that's that's ridiculous. 340 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: But well, but the first offense is that, like who 341 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: leaves a kid at all in a car unattended? Like 342 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: let's start right there. I'm responsible right there. 343 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I don't know when when the kids 344 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: are little and stuff, it's like you do think about 345 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: you tiptoe around the fact that you don't want them 346 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: to you want them to take their naps and you 347 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: don't want them to wake up and things like that. 348 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: But this guy's living in Arizona and it's so hot outside. 349 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: Wasn't it like one hundred and nine degrees or one 350 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: of those crazy days. They're like, well, I don't think 351 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: that's a crazy day there. I think that's an average 352 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: day in Arizona. 353 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: Well, I also believe, and I'm not I might be 354 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: mistaken with this, but when the car is just in 355 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: park and the air conditioning's on, or especially if it's 356 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: in that you know, like you could push the button 357 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: and start your car from inside the house, that's not 358 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: like really fully doing the air conditioner as much as 359 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: it is when you're driving in the car around. So 360 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: I just think even sitting there, even if the air 361 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: was on, it just would be way too hot between 362 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: the windows and everything else. That just the sun beating 363 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: on the car. But regardless, this is this is what 364 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm really concerned about. So he's been charged with felony 365 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: first degree murder or in child abuse for the death 366 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: of his two year old daughter. Right why Like why 367 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: is he not even in jail right now? 368 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, he's probably out on bail, and like, I don't 369 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: think he should be allowed to go out of this day. 370 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't you consider somebody to be a flight 371 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: risk that's charged with first degree murder and child abuse? 372 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: And so they're like, you can go, but you have 373 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: to contact pre trial services while you're there. And he 374 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: was also ordered to have no unsupervised contact with the 375 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: children while I'm the vacation, Like, okay, it's monitoring. Why 376 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: is this woman married to this loser? Still? I'm serious, 377 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Like this is a serious question, Like this dude, how 378 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: you could get over this. 379 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: Dude killed your kid and the court is telling you 380 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: that he's not allowed to be alone with your other kids? Like, 381 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: how are you even having an orgasm with this dude 382 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: right now? 383 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: Tell me please? Like what is the talking of vacation 384 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: with this person? How are you even going on vacation 385 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: right now? Like, I just I just don't understand any 386 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: of it. You're like, your. 387 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Your kid's been dead less than a year because your 388 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: husband was was in charge of that, and you're going 389 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: on vacation in Maui right now, Like the whole entire 390 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: thing is. It's it's so bizarre to me, But I 391 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: have so we have a case in the gross room 392 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: called Imagine the Unimaginable and it's about a hot car 393 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: death and it and and what happens to a child 394 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: and they it is it's really really disturbing. What happens. 395 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: Thermal damage to the skin, brain and lung congestion, uh, 396 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: hemorrhages in the skin, circulatory fail your respiratory failure, heat stroke, hyperthermia. 397 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: It's really really, really terrible, like dying in that way. 398 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: And and after this particular death happened there, they went 399 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: through their phones and he the wife had texted him quote, 400 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: I told you to stop leaving them in the car. 401 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: How how many times have I told you? 402 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: Who's leaving their kid in the car? I understand you 403 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: don't want to wake them up, but let's take away 404 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: hot car deaths, like they could get out and get 405 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: seriously hurt. That way, somebody could take them. There's a 406 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: million things that could go wrong. Why would you ever 407 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: consider it? I don't because you have video games to play. 408 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's where I think you could 409 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: come in and be judgmental about the video games, because 410 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: I think there's like, we know plenty of responsible fathers 411 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: that play video games and that haven't had issues. And 412 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: you see this guy who's leaving his car to his 413 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: daughter to die in a hot car because he's so 414 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: preoccupied with playing them and doesn't realize that hours had 415 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: gone by that she was in there. I think the 416 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: problem is, like your first habit is you shouldn't be 417 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: leaving them unattended in the car, and then you're going 418 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: in and getting distracted by something. It's ridiculous. 419 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So police have posted a photo that an officer 420 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: took at a very unusual traffic pullover situation recently. 421 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, police pulled over this car that had 422 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: an active warrant in a suspended driver's license. So he 423 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: approaches the car, finds this fifty five year old woman 424 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: and detains her, no problem. But then he goes back 425 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: to the car there's this raccoon sitting in the driver's 426 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: seat with a meth pipe in its mouth. 427 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Could you this is just like added to the list 428 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: of like weird things officers come across all the time. 429 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: You would never expect to see just a raccoon in 430 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: someone's car in general, because they're not typically animals that 431 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: are pets, Like you see a dog, a cat maybe 432 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: or something, but like a raccoon, no holding a meth 433 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: like a crack pipe or whatever. Like it's just hilarious. 434 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: The guy was probably like, couldn't reach his pocket fast 435 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: enough to get his phone to take a picture of this, 436 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: because like, you wouldn't even believe that your eyes were 437 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: seeing that right now. Nobody would ever believe you. 438 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: No, nobody would ever believe you. But the meth pipe 439 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: ended up causing police to further search the car, where 440 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: they found bulk come ount of meth, crack cocaine, and 441 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: three used glass meth pipes. It's really funny because this 442 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: raccoon is not a wild raccoon, it's a pet raccoon. 443 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: So seemingly the only responsible thing this lady did was 444 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: get their appropriate paperwork to own him. 445 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: This lady's out of her mind. Imagine she's fifty five, 446 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: and imagine just deciding you're gonna have a raccoon as 447 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: a pet, and then like really going through all the 448 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: legal things. I mean, but it like it really screams 449 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: that she's that she's on crack, right, Like, well, it. 450 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: Clearly she was doing meth based on what's going on 451 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: in the car, so like, of course, somebody that's on 452 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: drugs like that isn't making rational decisions. I just find 453 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: it funny that she went through all the proper channels 454 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: to get paperwork for the raccoon. Meanwhile, she this lady 455 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: is an interesting character, for sure, she really is. And 456 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: the raccoon is okay at the end of the ordeal, 457 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: and its name was Chewy. 458 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: Do you remember that time momm told us that she 459 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: saw a raccoon in the kitchen. 460 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: Well, I was believer, this is one hundred percent of 461 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: beth Qualterry story. Well, she's not on math that we 462 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: know of, not that we know of, even though I 463 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: took that picture of her. I just said it to 464 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: her this morning, Which is so funny that this is 465 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: coming up. We were in LA this time last year 466 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: and she sees on the back of a sign somebody 467 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: wrote in sharpie I love meth, and she goes take 468 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: my picture with it. That's great, Maybe I'll post it 469 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: on the story. I was like, what is wrong with you? 470 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: It probably is. 471 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, oh, speaking of meth too. 472 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: I think we decided that we are going to call 473 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: our listeners death heads because I don't know. We haven't 474 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: talked to Gabe about it, and this weekend I was 475 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 2: just like, dude, I don't know. He said something about oh, 476 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: because we were walking in the city and someone saw 477 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: me and talked to me that knew me, and he said, look, 478 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: you have fan Jemmy, and I said, actually, we're looking 479 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: to change the name to death heads. And then he 480 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: busted out laughing when I said that, And then I 481 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: was like, no, really, we're not doing that because it's 482 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: too close to. 483 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Like meth head and and like deadheads. And he was like, no, 484 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: it's perfect. You have to use it. So and we 485 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: trust his opinion. So that's where we're at there. We 486 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: liked your other submissions that where were some of the 487 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: other submissions. I liked when you guys said little spleens 488 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: because of that story we had the day both the 489 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: cute little spleens. Yeah, and what was the other Oh, 490 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: somebody said that we're always saying things were outrageous, so 491 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: outragees that was funny. 492 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm sorry but if we're talking about a 493 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: cop that takes a picture of a raccoon with a 494 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: with a meth pipe in its mouth, like everything is outrageous. 495 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: The next story we have is outrageous. Every story we 496 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: tell the story about mom, Mom's tell momm's raccoon story. 497 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: Though she just. 498 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: Said we were all I don't know if we were 499 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: all home whatever, we were sitting on the couch and 500 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: she went out to the kitchen and she said that 501 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: there was a raccoon that was just sitting out in 502 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: the kitchen and then like cereal. It was like eating 503 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: cereal or something out of a box. And then like 504 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: we all went out there, we like searched the whole house. 505 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: There's like no raccoon, and we're like, see, maybe she 506 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: has a past history of math. This is this is 507 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: all making sense now. We're like, we're like, that didn't happen. 508 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: But to her defense, there was I think in one 509 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: of the downstairs bedrooms. The window was open and there 510 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: was no screen on it. So they're in theory like 511 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: something could have climbed in and been in an out 512 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: I don't, I mean in theory, but we just always 513 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: buster o balls because we're like dude, there was no 514 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: raccoon in the house. 515 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Nobody saw it. Well, me and Detie were talking to 516 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: her on Sunday, and she was also telling us about 517 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: like all the car accidents she's been in, which is 518 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: like insane that she's been in so many And then 519 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: we're like, well, one did give you that amnesius, like 520 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe that she has some kind of like permanent head 521 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: trauma or something. She definitely seems like she does. She's 522 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna love listening to this lader get. I can't wait 523 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: to get the call about this one later. 524 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: I know she's always sending us a text like, oh, 525 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: thanks for talking about me. I'm like, mom, you're like 526 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: endless material. 527 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Please, we have to have her on sooner or later, because, 528 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: like everybody will understand the second she starts talking, I know, 529 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: we do have to have her on. We have to 530 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: figure out how to do that because I don't know 531 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: that she'd be able to handle the zoom situation. No 532 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: I will. Yeah, we probably have to do it in person, 533 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: or we could get her microphone and I could have 534 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: somebody over there set it up for her. 535 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: We'll say, all right, let's talk about now this. This 536 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 2: last story is a woman's greatest fere, which is forgetting 537 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: to take a tampon out. 538 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: So two years ago, this woman who was then twenty 539 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: eight now she's thirty, started developing severe pelvic pain. As usual, 540 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: doctors blew it off as a UTI kept dismissing her 541 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: as having low pain tolerance or they said she was 542 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: being over dramatic. She was brushed off by a ton 543 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: of doctors. So then four months after she first reported 544 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: the pain, they finally did a vaginal exam and found 545 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: a tampon in her vagina that had been there for 546 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: possibly over a year. 547 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so apparently she had an IUD put in about 548 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: a year ago and then ever since then she didn't 549 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: really get her period, so she kind of remembers the 550 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: last time that she wore a tampon. And this happens 551 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: so many times that you wouldn't believe it. We actually 552 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: have a post in the grosser room that's called super 553 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: Gross Absorbancy. You guys could just search that in the 554 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 2: search bar and look it up and see what this 555 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: actually looks like when it's taken out. But it was 556 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: a woman in a similar situation that had a tampon 557 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: up there for a long time and there's seventy eight 558 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: comments underneath of that post that say all different situations 559 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: of women who either experienced it or who are nurses 560 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 2: who experienced it at work as well. You have their 561 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: vaginal fornix, which is like around the cervix, and it's 562 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: a little pocket. You could store stuff up in there 563 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: if you really wanted to. You could put money up there, 564 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: you could put whatever. And if you had sex, like you, 565 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: you might not really feel it. And the problem with 566 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: the tampon is it gets jammed up there every single 567 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 2: time you were having sex and could It's cotton and 568 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: it gets compacted and just jammed up there. But it 569 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: can get become infected. Obviously most of you have heard 570 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: of toxic shock syndrome. That is a bacterial infection that 571 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: could be caused by strap bacteria or staff bacteria, and 572 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: it could become very serious like a sudden high fever, 573 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: a low blood pressure, headache, seizure, and sometimes it could 574 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: it could go to renal failure and death septic shock. 575 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: I she says that she was treated for septic shock 576 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: after this. I don't or for toxic shock syndrome. I 577 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: don't think that she had that because she had it 578 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: in there for a year that they commonly like when 579 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: they see a person's having symptoms and then they find 580 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: a tampon stuck up there, they're like, holy shit, we're 581 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: gonna treat you for toxic shock syndrome. But like that's 582 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 2: not really how it would present. Like you would know 583 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: if you had it, trust me, because you get very sick, 584 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: very fast, and you're hospitalized and it's it's terrible infection. 585 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: So a lot of times people experience like a foul 586 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: smelling discharge. This the one in the gross room, the 587 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: woman was having a greenish discharge that was foul smelling. 588 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: All of them usually present with some kind of pelvic pain. 589 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: So the biggest risk is a lot of times, usually 590 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: like when women are at their end of their period 591 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: and they kind of like forget to take the last 592 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: one out or something like that. That seems to be 593 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: the most common time it happens. So, which is possible 594 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: when this woman had the EUD, like she stopped bleeding 595 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: and then she just kind of used it and forgot. 596 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: I personally think like I would know it just because 597 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: like I when I used to bleed like that, I 598 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: used to use like these big, huge tampons that I 599 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: used to call dildo tampons because they were so big, 600 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: like there's no way of not knowing it's there. They 601 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: tell you like depending on how you're bleeding, that you 602 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: should use a lesser absorbency one, but most women that 603 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: have given vaginal childbirth know that like a little pencil 604 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: thin tampon is not staying up in your vege Like 605 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: it's not happening. No, you could like shoot that thing 606 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: right out if you push, like so it's it's like 607 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: I for me, like that's how I'm just like I 608 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: can't imagine this happening. But I can imagine if you're 609 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: a woman who uses these thin ones and they're very 610 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 2: small and you just like don't remember it or whatever, 611 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: but it everyone under the post in the gross room 612 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, this is my biggest fear 613 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: of this, that and the other. But it happens more 614 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: often than you would think. And I got one in 615 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: surgical pathology once from an elderly woman and it was 616 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: up there for years and it was so disturbing looking 617 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: and it just smelled awful, just awful, awful, awful. 618 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you when we have emy lockren on, it 619 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: had to be one of our first external exams back 620 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: in either November December of twenty twenty three. You guys 621 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: had talked about that too. You have got a couple 622 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: of cases of tampa and said, we're smelling oh oh god. 623 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. She luckily she made a full recovery, 624 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: but she doesn't think she would have if she didn't 625 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: push for it, which is, you know, you have to 626 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: be the advocate for an advocate for yourself, because we 627 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: talk about so many stories where doctors just blow people off, 628 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: and if you know something's not right with your body, 629 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: you need to push for it. You know, it's nuts. 630 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: She had said in this article that she had a 631 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: papsmerror since then, and I'm just like, how are they 632 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: not like looking up there? 633 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 634 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know because I've never given someone 635 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: a pap smear, so I don't know the full view 636 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: of what they're looking at. So I don't want to 637 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: say that. And actually the physician who discovered it said 638 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: that some tissue in her vagina had like slightly grown 639 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: over it, so they thought initially that it might have 640 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: been like an endometriosis, lesion or something, And then they 641 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: were looking at it and they're like, wait a second, 642 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: They're like picking at it and they're like, oh my god, 643 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: this is a freaking tampon. 644 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine finding something like that. 645 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: I know I would be It's great. It's good though, 646 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: because like all her symptoms have gone away since. I mean, 647 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: when you have a foreign body inside of your body, 648 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: your body knows it and it tries to attack it, 649 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: and it acts differently on different people. But that's why 650 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: her body was kind of freaking out because it knew 651 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: it was there. And that's why you should listen to 652 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: your body when like something weird like that's happening. 653 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, guys, thank you so much. Please 654 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: leave us a review on Apple or Spotify, and if 655 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: you have a story for us, please submit it to 656 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: stories at Mothernosdeath dot com or our Instagram account. 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