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Speaker 1: to Mahomes and just screamed thirteen seconds or just whatever,

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Speaker 1: my coach is an idiot. We'd be like, what is

426
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: this guy's deal? So Mahomes was unhinged after the game, clearly,

427
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: and I think a lot transpired, kind of a carryover

428
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: from what happened the previous week with a no PI

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00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: call on a guy that can't catch a cold Valdaz Scantling.

430
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: But I want to say this, I will support Mahomes

431
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: on this. Vince Lombardi had a line that said, you

432
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: show me a good loser, I'll show you a loser.

433
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: There's a reason why Tom Brady after he lost his

434
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: Super Bowls stormed the locker room and didn't talk to

435
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: a soul. You know who's notoriously one of the worst

436
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: losers of all time, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Tiger

437
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: Woods last time I checked, weren't lovey dovey after you

438
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: beat them. Most guys who are used to winning NonStop

439
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: aren't gracious losers. Who are the guys we consistently talk about,

440
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: Like God, he handles himself really well at the podium

441
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: after annel. Guys who lose a lot, right, You ever

442
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: seen a rich guy lose a lot of money. He

443
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: ain't very happy, so mahomes freaking out while kind of

444
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: embarrassing in a vacuum. The way he was acting, hooting

445
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: and hollering, screaming over something that happened, I mean, the

446
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: guy was off sides. Kind of understandable when you think

447
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: about the moment. This guy got into the NFL and

448
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: started playing one. He showed up he redshirt as his

449
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: team went to the playoffs. He starts playing, he immediately

450
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: wins the MVP. He goes toe to toe with Tom

451
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: fucking Brady, and then he starts rattling off Super bowls

452
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl appearances. You think this guy is used

453
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: to being eight and five and having a terrible offense.

454
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: He's ever seen this. So when you get involved in

455
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Speaker 1: something and I don't care who you are, at what level,

456
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: and you're not used to it and it's not going well,

457
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna throw you off. So when I hear God,

458
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: he's not handling himself, well, he's never been in this situation.

459
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: It's the thing about the NFL. It literally humbles everybody.

460
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: Most guys get to the league. You have an up

461
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: and down season. Maybe you make a playoffs one year,

462
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs the next year, maybe you

463
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: tear an ACL. Maybe you have some adversity, Like what's

464
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: adversity as Mahomes really had rolled an ankle in a

465
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: playoff game, storm back the next week, won it, ended

466
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: up in the Super Bowl, lost in the AFC Championship game.

467
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: He has it twice. I mean his adversity. No one

468
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: in the division has ever sniffed him. He has beat

469
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: basically everyone in the league consistently when it's mattered, and

470
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: he's basically been since his first year starting the Super

471
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite. When the year starts, so all of a sudden,

472
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: they lose a couple of weird games in fashions that

473
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: one are self inflicted regardless, like kind of understandable. You

474
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: can say he's whiny, you can say he's immature. I

475
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: just say he's a guy that always wins. Since he's

476
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: been in the NFL. It's like, well, what about Texas Tech.

477
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how far away Patrick Mahomes feels in

478
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: his mansion with his golf hole in Lake from his

479
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: days playing for Cliff Kingsbury against Kansas and Iowa State.

480
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: You probably can't even remember those days. You'd in Kansas

481
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: City always knowed is winning. I'm not saying that, Like listen,

482
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: it's so easy for all of us that you shouldn't

483
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: act like that. Well, most guys that lose a lot

484
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't act like that because they've been through it

485
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: all the time. This guy, all he's used to is winning.

486
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to lose. Right, That's kind of understandable.

487
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: And I again, I would go back to this. Most

488
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Speaker 1: of the best players of my lifetime since I've been

489
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: watching sports, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant

490
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: don't handle it well. Honestly, Tom handles it very very poorly,

491
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: which looking back. Why wouldn't he He thinks he's winning

492
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: it all the time. Most of the time he's right.

493
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, Peyton Manning hand a little better, lost a

494
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: lot more than Tom Right. Aaron Rodgers, you know, handles

495
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: it kind of hit her mess Well, he loses a

496
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: lot in big spots. This guy doesn't, so I listen,

497
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: we can make fun of him. It was kind of

498
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: funny the way he's screaming about the referees fucking the

499
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: game to Josh Allen's face. Josh had to be like,

500
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: what is this guy? What's he talking about? But I

501
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: do understand him not being able to control his emotions,

502
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: And to me, there's a difference of like DK metcalf

503
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: right now is unhinged, can't control his emotions. If he

504
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: doesn't get them under control, it's going to kind of

505
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: derail his career. I think to being an all time

506
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: great to just be in this kind of rollercoaster of

507
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: a player. Mahomes had a bad moment in a spot

508
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: that he's never experienced before since he's been in the Pros.

509
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: I kind of get it. The Browns. I don't talk

510
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: enough about Kevin Stefanski and whatever he's doing. This year

511
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: has been pretty awesome because whether he was deleting force,

512
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: whether it was Andrew Berry that was around him when

513
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: he worked with the Eagles. Hiring Jim Schwartz has changed

514
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: that team. But being able to function as an offense

515
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: with a two hundred and thirty million dollars quarterback who

516
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: was terrible beside one half of football PJ Walker and

517
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson. To have your team in the playoff

518
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: conversation in that situation, I don't care if you're playing

519
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: with the eighty five Bears defense or the Steel Curtain.

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00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: That is hard in twenty twenty three, But then to

521
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: sign Joe Flacco and a couple games later, he's throwing

522
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: for three hundred plus yards and he's breaking your team down.

523
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Like to me, if this was Andy Reid, if this

524
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: was Sean McVay, if this was Kyle Shanahan, we would

525
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: be I mean, would never shut up about it. But

526
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: it's the Browns. It's Stefanski's note, his famous these guys,

527
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: what a job that guy's doing. It was really cool.

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00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I think I saw it. Someone tweeted it out on

529
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: my timeline of of Flacco talking to the guys, and

530
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: you could see everyone just kind of gravitated toward him.

531
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: He actually looks pretty good. I mean, he's never been

532
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: able to move. He towards a beautiful deepole. It's you know,

533
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: we talked earlier Aboutdavido being a fun story. That's the

534
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: one thing the NFL has is like there's some purity

535
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: to it of like that's kind of cool. Like you

536
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: don't really get to say that in a lot of

537
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: other sports consistently. It happens all the time in the NFL,

538
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: where you just sit back and go, God, that's that's cool.

539
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I don't care about Flacco one way

540
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: or the other. It's hard not to watch him have

541
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: some success, lead a team to a couple of victories

542
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: and go, God, that's fun. That's that's entertainment, no wonder.

543
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: The NFL is the number one television show. And I

544
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: think Stefanski, you know, is throwing his hat into the

545
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: ring as a Coach the Year candidate for sure. And

546
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: if they go off to keep rattling victories, I mean,

547
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: they're that weird game away when they lost to the

548
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Steelers and they had multiple defensive touchdowns from basically being

549
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: a playoff lock. I also love like I understand, like

550
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving parts in the AFC tonight. Officially,

551
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers punch their ticket to the playoffs.

552
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: We can punch the Cowboys, the Lions, the Eagles. Like,

553
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: those teams are going to the playoffs. Those teams are

554
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. I'm trying to explain to people

555
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: around the dinner table tonight. But the playoffs scenario, because

556
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: they're like six and six, how are the Packers gonna

557
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs? I like, well, the NFC sucks,

558
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: so they are gonna be a couple teams. To me,

559
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: there are basically three spots or excuse me, two spots

560
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: three teams between the Vikings, the Packers, and the Rams.

561
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: I think two of those teams are gonna make it Seattle.

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00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't see a chance. I guess they could beat

563
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles this weekend. I would not bet on it.

564
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: I saw him tweet this out, and I saw him

565
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: right about it is basically the deterioration of offensive line play.

566
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: And he's not wrong. And the biggest reason is because

567
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: we've wiped out OTAs in practice. Now, in training camp

568
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: and throughout the season, is no longer the same it

569
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: is not nearly as physical and they don't wear pads.

570
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it, like, if I'm Tyreek

571
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Hill or Jalen Ramsey or whoever on the outside, even

572
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: linebackers taking angles and stuff, I can work on my craft.

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00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: It is virtually impossible as an offensive lineman to work

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: on your craft in shorts and a T shirt. Now,

575
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: remember a while back, Julian Edelman I was listening on

576
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: a podcast or television show I forget, and he talked

577
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: about when all those years with the Patriots, they were

578
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: always getting the one or two seat, so they always

579
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: had a buy and he said, we used to go

580
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: full padded practices and scrimmage and get out after it

581
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: for a couple of days during that period of time.

582
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: It helped, you know, kind of like we didn't just

583
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: dick around that week. It was very serious football. Do

584
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: you know how many teams put on pads now in

585
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: like the month of December, I would say slim the

586
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: none one. You run out of padded practices, you only

587
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: get so many. And this gets back to anytime you negotiate,

588
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: whether it's for one hundred dollars or billions of dollars,

589
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: in this situation, there's a give and take and when

590
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: you get greedy and when you want it all. And

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I understand why the players and the owners all want

592
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: the most for their sides. But their last you know, negotiation,

593
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: which the players wanted more money and the owners found

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00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: a way to finagle it by giving him some days

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00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: off and less padded practices, and it sounded great. The

596
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: owners would rather have money in their pocket all day long,

597
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: and the players are like, damn, we get a little

598
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: more time off, easier on our body. It's hurt the product.

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00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: It truly has, because when I was a kid, there

600
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: weren't nearly as many injuries and they practiced in pads

601
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: all season long. Now maybe there are other external factors

602
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: of like the excessive training. Now, I'm no you know

603
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: NFL trainer for thirty years to know all the differences,

604
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: but clearly there are more injuries now than ever in

605
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line play, which is not all the NFL's

606
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: fault because in college so many teams run the spread offense.

607
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: But you can't train and develop these guys. And it's

608
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: currently a disaster because the supply and demand of good

609
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: defensive linemen coming into the league year after year after

610
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: you saw tonight the Miami Dolphins did not have a

611
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: chance to stop Harold Landry. He was so much faster

612
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: in Harold Landry. It's not like he's Miles Garrett or TJ.

613
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Wat It's okay, solid good pass rusher. Every single week

614
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: you're facing an edge rusher and an interior rushers who

615
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: are just good, who could like go to the Pro Bowl.

616
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: A lot of teams do not have any offensive lineman

617
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: that can sniff the Pro Bowl, so you get kind

618
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: of crappy play because when your offensive lines are bad,

619
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: the product gets bad, and that to me is one

620
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: area of concern big picture. If the offensive lineman continue

621
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: to deteriorate at the rate in which they are, it's

622
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem because football is gonna look worse

623
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: and worse. Want to dive into a player. I like

624
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: to add a coach that made it look easy, because

625
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a coach that he deserves his flowers

626
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: and he made it look easy. Mike McCarthy said on Monday,

627
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: did not feel good. Tuesday, felt really bad and did

628
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: not sleep, so on Wednesday morning he went in to

629
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: the training table. It's the best part about working in football.

630
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: You have access to food and access to doctors like that.

631
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: So if you're ever hungry or ever have some weird feelings,

632
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: you're taking care of you. You're never gonna be hungry

633
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: and you're never gonna be injured, slash sick. Long, So

634
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: he goes into the training table early in the morning,

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: meets the trainer and the doctor. They immediately get an

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it was like, Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: is he gonna be away? It's gonna be weird. He

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Speaker 1: not only was back that smile and that burly guy.

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Speaker 1: He feels like he's on top of the world right now.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are rolling. Team looks sweets, he looks a little

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Speaker 1: chubbier than normal, but life is good. He easily could

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Speaker 1: have beat the Eagles twice, but to get him at

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Speaker 1: home in front of Jerry and Steven going nuts, Cowboy

645
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Speaker 1: fans just having the time of their life. He has

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott on the path to potentially becoming the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Props to Mike McCarthy, because he he's a guy, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm guilty of this. That thought he was

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Speaker 1: pretty bad towards the end of Green Bay and the

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Speaker 1: last couple of playoff victories. I never thought that this

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Speaker 1: guy and listen, I picked him to win the division,

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Speaker 1: but I think I just did that to just be different.

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Speaker 1: They look really good and Mike Pendi's healthy, looks like

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Speaker 1: he's having fun. Man, So props to Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: little thing we call the mailbag. Very very easy to

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff DMS wide open fire in get your question

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Speaker 1: answered on the show. If you're watching on the YouTube,

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Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to the page. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. You guys know the drill. In recent

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Speaker 1: pods you've been talking out NFL owners can fire coaches

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Speaker 1: at will because of their money. This is from Evan.

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Speaker 1: I work for a pro sports team and have talked

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Speaker 1: to the owner and recently he said coaches and gms

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Speaker 1: are hired to be fired. How true is this throughout

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Speaker 1: the league? PS some of the boys are looking to

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Speaker 1: take a trip down to Arizona for a fall or

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Speaker 1: for a golf trip in February. Any courses that you recommend,

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Speaker 1: it's right around waste management time, So I'd hit that

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Speaker 1: tournament Weekapile, Troon, Whirlwind, Raven a little cheaper but solid.

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Speaker 1: I would say when it comes to the owners, think

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Speaker 1: about the history of let's just stick with the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But I think it rings true in the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 1: of sports, pro sports coaches, gms and players. How many

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Speaker 1: of them this one's for John right off into the sunset.

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Speaker 1: How many Ozzie Newsom's retire still get paid a lot

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Speaker 1: and around the organization. I would say historically most guys

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Speaker 1: are fired. Take most of the older Super Bowl winning

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Speaker 1: coaches in the league. Belichick fired, Andy Reid fired, Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll fired multiple times, McCarthy fired. So this young crew

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Speaker 1: of guys who have not been fired yet, Lafour obviously,

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Speaker 1: Kyle McVeigh, Vray bull like, if you coach long enough,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of inevitable. Could be speaking out a turn.

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Speaker 1: But like the pat Rileys who have never been fired,

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Speaker 1: is pretty rare, right, I mean, the best coach in

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Speaker 1: football history, at least resume wise, Belichick got Shitcam, I

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Speaker 1: mean Andy Reid, the current best coach you know over

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Speaker 1: the last decade fired. So it's just part of the drill.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's really any way to avoid it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. It's just the nature of the business.

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Speaker 1: And I think your guys right, I wonder what owner

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Speaker 1: that is? Hey, John, we've all seen the rise of Perty.

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Speaker 1: It's gotten me curious about other backup quarterbacks who might

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Speaker 1: be going under the radar. If it wasn't for a

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Speaker 1: couple injuries, we might never have seen Purdy take a snap.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the situation like this is an outlier

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Speaker 1: or would the coaching staff have seen his ability in

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Speaker 1: practice and given him an opportunity At some point? There

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Speaker 1: seemed to be a lot of teams struggling at quarterback

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Speaker 1: at the moment, I'd love to see more guys get

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Speaker 1: a chance. Well, if you have an established starter in

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Speaker 1: the top, I would say, like eighteen, you know, almost

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Speaker 1: down to what Jimmy was a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Now, once you start paying him a decent

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Speaker 1: amount of money, those guys are set right in terms

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Speaker 1: of you kind of those guys are going down with

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Speaker 1: the ship now. Purdy made the team after being a

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Speaker 1: seventh round pick, So he did enough in training camp

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Speaker 1: to catch the eye of Kyle Shanahan. Right, he was

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Speaker 1: the third quarterback when they brought back Jimmy Garoppolo, so

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Speaker 1: he had definitely impressed, like you have to impress in practice.

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Speaker 1: Like clearly Jake Browning has improved. They felt comfortable enough

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Speaker 1: making Jake Browning the backup quarterback coming into the NFL. Now,

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Speaker 1: these last couple of games, it's hard to watch Jake

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Speaker 1: Browning and think he's not bad. I mean, he could

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Speaker 1: just be a bridge starter. Could someone give him ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars just to handle a season as they were

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Speaker 1: going through some shit? Doesn't seem crazy. I see a

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Speaker 1: lot worse, and it makes you wonder that how many

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Speaker 1: guys like him. Now I would say pretty better college

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Speaker 1: player than Jake Browning, but he's a good example. You

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Speaker 1: can't improve most of us, if you think about it.

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Speaker 1: In any business we do, you improve, Like ideally, as

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Speaker 1: time goes on, you get better at your craft. You

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Speaker 1: kind of hone it, you figure things out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: whether you're working for someone, whether you own the business,

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Speaker 1: it gets better as you go. But if you're a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback, like, yeah, they see in practice kinda because

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Speaker 1: you're going against the scout or you are the scout

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Speaker 1: team quarterback. You know, the NFL is not if you're

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. The starting quarterback takes every freaking rep, right,

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Speaker 1: so you're over there with the defense. It's why when

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Speaker 1: Perdy began playing, his biggest you know, advocate, was Fred Warner, right,

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Speaker 1: because like Deebo and all these they've never played with them. Trent.

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Speaker 1: At first it was like, oh, we'll see what he's got.

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Speaker 1: Fred Warner was the guy like I'm telling you this

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Speaker 1: dude can play. I've been telling Kyle for a while.

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Speaker 1: This guy's making this guy's good. So the defense ironically

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Speaker 1: probably can give you a better scouting report if the

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Speaker 1: good or bad. Then sometimes the coaching staff because the

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Speaker 1: defensive coaching staff's over there with some of the young

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Speaker 1: assistants running the cards, especially if you have an offensive

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Speaker 1: head coach. Now, those guys that are doing their job

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Speaker 1: should be watching that film as well during the week.

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Speaker 1: But once you get a top ten quarterback, you're just

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Speaker 1: so focused on that guy. People don't realize once the

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Speaker 1: season starts, it's on the player to do a lot

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Speaker 1: of the fundamental stuff. Like the team is just focused

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis about the opponent when you play,

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Speaker 1: So it's it's complicated. Think how many guys that you

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Speaker 1: know in NFL history, Like it's very very difficult to

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Speaker 1: play wide receiver, to play d line, to play linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and to get not get an opportunity if you're in

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Speaker 1: the league a couple of years because inevitably guys get injured,

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Speaker 1: you end up playing. You get to play special teams

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Speaker 1: so you can stand out that way, you just get

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Speaker 1: some run. You eventually get a starting gig. I remember

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Speaker 1: listening to Will Compton tell his story, like how he

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Speaker 1: made the team and then the guy's got injured and

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Speaker 1: then by the end of the season his rookie year

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Speaker 1: I think he was an underrated free agent. He just

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Speaker 1: he started like it. It's hard at quarterback right, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily now because all these injuries, but it's very easy.

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Speaker 1: Like if you play behind a guy that never gets injured,

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Speaker 1: you just never fucking play. And the only tape like

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Speaker 1: when you scout a guy like that is the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, the preseason's pretty irrelevant. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just a complicated thing. It's this is a people business,

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Speaker 1: So it's there's a lot of guesswork. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff that you can't quantify clearly with quarterback, how

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Speaker 1: fast you process, how well you read, how well you

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Speaker 1: handle pressure. It took for Zach Wilson literally saying effet

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Speaker 1: that was the motto of the Jets and just playing

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Speaker 1: loose to finally look good for a half. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: So it's I have a lot of respect for anyone

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Speaker 1: who sniff playing in the NFL at any position, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe not kicker, a punter, you just god given talent.

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Speaker 1: But and then if you're able to kind of work

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Speaker 1: your way up, because it's truly in a worldless face

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Speaker 1: that like the meritocracy in America's long gone rig game.

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Speaker 1: Football is not a rig game. If they think you

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Speaker 1: can play, you play, and at every position you ultimately

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Speaker 1: get a chance to play. But quarterback is one that

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Speaker 1: you can just never get your shot. You can just

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Speaker 1: never get your shot. And some guys like Purty broken leg,

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Speaker 1: broken foot, boom he's in. It's actually happened to a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys if you think about it in recent memory,

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Speaker 1: most of them have just kind of sucked. Is from Gunner.

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Speaker 1: The thought just occurred to me about players player contracts,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love to get your take. Show. Hey, Otani

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Speaker 1: just signed a massive deal which averages seventy million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year. I saw a post on Instagram that it

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Speaker 1: said after taxes, he will only take home thirty four

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. This means over fifty percent is

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Speaker 1: taken out of his salary. Not sure if that is

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Speaker 1: just by the state of California, includes federal taxes, it

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Speaker 1: includes it both, but we'll get into this in a second.

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Speaker 1: My question is this, do you think we will ever

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Speaker 1: see players any sport, college or pro stops signing it

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Speaker 1: all or as frequently with teams and schools in these

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Speaker 1: incredibly high tax cost of living market states due to

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Speaker 1: the economics of where the team is located. From a

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Speaker 1: business perspective, it makes a lot of sense. But I

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Speaker 1: also recognize that there are some really good franchises in

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Speaker 1: some of these markets. The Niners, the Lakers, the Rams,

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, the Yankees. It would be hard to say

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Speaker 1: no to these teams. Well, here's the thing. It was

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Speaker 1: just reported. It's one of the craziest contracts in the

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Speaker 1: history of sports. He signed a ten year contract and

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Speaker 1: he's only making two million dollars a year in deferring

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Speaker 1: six hundred and eighty million dollars, which probably is going

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Speaker 1: to turn out to be genius unless inflation just fucking

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Speaker 1: rips for a decade. Because he will immediately move to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: He will immediately lose move to Jupiter, Florida, and probably

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Speaker 1: take home the difference of one hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: a no state income tax tax haven state, which is

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Speaker 1: smart business. Now, there are a lot of factors here.

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Speaker 1: It's talking about Otani specifically, because Bobby Bunia gets a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit for his contract. It's actually moronic. You

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Speaker 1: would rather have the thirty million dollars upfront instead of

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Speaker 1: spreading it out over thirty years. Even if you get

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Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars of that from taxes and then invest it,

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Speaker 1: you would have flown by if you just would have

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Speaker 1: invested in the SNP back in nineteen ninety five or

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Speaker 1: whenever he signed the contract. Now, when you talk about

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Speaker 1: money at this level, it's just an all time chess

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Speaker 1: move by everybody involved. It really is. Speaking of the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: and I grew up hating them because I'm a Giants guy,

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Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for the way they're operating.

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Speaker 1: The San Fransco Giants are a fucking joke and absolute embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: And the Dodgers, you can go, well, they never won

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Speaker 1: a World Series. It's true they won the fake you know,

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Speaker 1: Bubble sixty Game one. But the team they're putting together,

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Speaker 1: add in Otani, I watch baseball to watch stars. It's

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Speaker 1: seven million games during the summer. Give me some entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and their team is really entertaining and clearly Otani. Here's

847
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: the thing. I do think the Bay Area the Giants

848
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: are in more trouble like than the Niners because in football,

849
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. You're kind of stuck. They can

850
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: franchise you like you think Nick Bosa wants to live

851
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: in California. Of course not. He's a Florida guy. He

852
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: goes there immediately when the season ends. Deebo Samuel, they

853
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: had to tell him last year, like, you can't go

854
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: to Florida, you gotta stay on the West coast. So

855
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: he immediately came to Scottsdale. But the team suite, you

856
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: end up making more money off the field. I don't

857
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: think it hinders it that much, because you can make

858
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: a ton off the field if you're playing for the Yankees,

859
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: if you're playing for the Lakers, if you're playing for

860
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: the Niners. Ideally, like I've said this forever, the Cowboys

861
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: would be the number one free agent destination. They just

862
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: never have any capspace because Jerry's always paying premiums for

863
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: his own guys. But if they ever had openings, it

864
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: would be a double whammy. You get the brand and

865
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: you get no state income tax. Like, I'm sorry, anyone

866
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: like who cares about taxes, like has never made any

867
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: fucking money. That's no clue what they're talking about. Because

868
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: I just crossed an imaginary line in my net worth

869
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: fucking skyrocketed my yearly income. I mean it didn't double,

870
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: but it went up dramatically, crossing an imaginary line. I

871
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: can take an hour flight to go back if I want,

872
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: and I'm actually closer to Southern California, which I'm a

873
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: Northern California guy. Southern California is nicer, like if I

874
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: take the emotion out. Not a soul that is not

875
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: from California or Northern California would ever choose Sacramento or

876
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco over Manhattan Beach, Newport Beach, San Diego. Nobody.

877
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: And it's always been like that in pro sports for

878
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: the most part. Football is different that way. Obviously, the

879
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Lakers have always benefited from that historically, and I understand

880
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: why for the pod. Give me your thoughts on this.

881
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: I think Travis is retiring at the end of the

882
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: season and Mahomes knows it, and that's why he got

883
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: so upset. Just go rewatch his ramp and it makes

884
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: more sense. Also, Jason Kelsey retires two and in five

885
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: years they both go into the Hall of Fame together.

886
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: I would say the thing about Jason Kelcey is he's

887
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: still in the peak of his powers. Travis is still good,

888
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: but now he's got this girlfriend that's worth billion dollars.

889
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: Just one thing as you get older, especially like Travis

890
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: has more money than he ever needed at this point,

891
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: even though he's been quote unquote an underpaid player, the

892
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: value of time. And I can relate to this, like,

893
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: at thirty nine years old, what time means to me

894
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: is dramatically different than it did five ten years ago.

895
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: And I don't have children yet. The thing I value

896
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: the most is not money, it's time, and it's the

897
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: ability to control my time. So Travis Kelcey is immediately

898
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: going down as arguably the best pass catching tight end

899
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: of all time, one of the great players of his era,

900
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: and he's won multiple championships. And here's the thing with Travis,

901
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: a lot like Jason. He's got multi talents. He could

902
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: do movies, he could host shows, he could do whatever

903
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: he wants. And I think as you get older and

904
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: you realize, like I can make money other ways, you

905
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: kind of drift toward, like maybe the thing that you're

906
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: passionate about. And I think he loves football. I wonder

907
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: if he's thought about it this year. He got injured

908
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: a couple times. Rehab probably sucks, and it's like, what

909
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: am I doing this for? To win another ring, Like

910
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: it's not really gonna change some argument for me arguing

911
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: against you, Like, well, Gronk's got three, He's only got two,

912
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: Like who fucking cares to them? I mean, ultimately, you know,

913
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Brady's kind of an outlier, like I want ten. He's

914
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: got two rings. How many players in the history of

915
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: the NFL who are star players, non quarterbacks have two rings?

916
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Like he's in pretty special company. So I didn't never

917
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: cross my mind. I haven't really spent that much time

918
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: thinking about Travis retiring, though someone said he say it

919
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: on his podcast or he said it somewhere. Wouldn't shock

920
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: me at all, would not shock me at all. Which listen,

921
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs are going to have a true dynasty,

922
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: they're going to go through the iteration of a team

923
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: without Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. They've been without Tyreek

924
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: for now this year. Two. If Travis leaves, and I

925
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: think you would have to say, is Chris Jones, Are

926
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: they going to give him one hundred and twenty million

927
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: dollars you know? Or do you tag him and trade him?

928
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Or I don't even know if he's taggable. I forget

929
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: what I'd have to go back and look at the

930
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: details of the way it all played out. But you

931
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, look at Bellichick and Brady. They

932
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: literally had three different teams. The Bruskie Vrabul kind of

933
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: that group, Rodney Harrison, then they had the Moss Welker

934
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of group, and then they transitioned to the Edelman, Gronk,

935
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: mccordy highth Tower group. So you just Andy's think how

936
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: many different teams Andy's had in his career that have won.

937
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: So I'd feel pretty good if I'm a Chiefs fan.

938
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: But that's a hell of a point by you. Yeah,

939
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: very possible because I think I wonder if Mahomes knows

940
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: if he is going to retire. That would have been

941
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: on the short, like minute long reel. I mean, that's

942
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: one of the coolest plays we've ever seen. Truly is

943
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: that was bad at my jaw when that play happened.

944
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: Hit the floor because I thought, I'm more of a

945
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: defender and Sean McDermott bias know the guy. He's always

946
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: been cool to me. I do believe he's a little

947
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: stiff listen, some people are, but to lose like that,

948
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I think that it would have ended his career in Buffalo.

949
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: I think he might not have made it till next

950
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: week in Dallas. He probably does, but you know what

951
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, like that loss, it's one thing to lose.

952
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: If they would have lost on that play, it almost

953
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: felt like version of what happened to him them in

954
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: the thirteen second game on steroids. It was crazy. I

955
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: was like, WHOA got very lucky? Well, I mean, can

956
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: you imagine Tony walking around that town? How does he

957
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: go to a restaurant? How does he go anywhere? If

958
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy wins a Super Bowl with Dallas, does he

959
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: get into the Hall of Fame? How many coaches you'd

960
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: have to ask? Like Belichick or you know one of

961
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: the guys in the NFL films, pretty short list of

962
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: guys that have won multiple Super Bowls with two different teams.

963
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: Belichick didn't, Andy Reid didn't, Parcels did not. It's it's

964
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: incredible accomplishment to get to two Super Bowls with two

965
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: different teams. Right, Buil didn't, Andy did, Pete did not.

966
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: He'd be on a short list. Man, he'd be on

967
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: a short list. I'm sure there are other guys that

968
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm missing. Holme Grin is one, but he only won

969
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: it with the Packers. Walsh only coach for the Niners.

970
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's Jimmy Johnson quit. I guess he went

971
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: to Miami, but he never made the Super Bowl. Gotta

972
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: get mcarthy as flowers man. Something that seems so obvious

973
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: about Kansas City penalty. I don't think enough people are

974
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: talking about. Is it the flyer is thrown as soon

975
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: as the play starts. If that was an incomplete plass

976
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: to Kelsey with a five yard flag on top, nobody

977
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: is shitting a brick today, but it just happened to

978
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: develop one of the coolest plays ever. That's the thing.

979
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: It's like, if you like sports, there are certain plays

980
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: in any sport, you know, like a walk off inside

981
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: the park, home run right, a half court shot to

982
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: win it in March madness, that Kelsey play where if

983
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: you're watching it live, which I would imagine, I haven't

984
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: seen the television rating. Thirty plus million people were watching

985
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs Bills at that time, especially you like fell out

986
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: of your couch. I mean my heart stopped because again

987
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: I thought, listen, Andy's a made man. They're gonna be fine.

988
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: Mcdermot's career ends. I thought, Travis Kelcey. That was my

989
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: first thought. Not even the play was cool. I thought

990
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: the Travis Kelcey just ended a man's career and it

991
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: felt like he fucking ended the Bills. It was. It

992
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: was crazy, and not only was it Tony, it went

993
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: to Tony. He was the guy. It's just the visual

994
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen on the side looked like his whole

995
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: family just got murdered. Never seen anything like that. Good point, though,

996
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: good point, Hey, John, why can't my guys Tofanski gets

997
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: some credit? Guy has steered us through losing three of

998
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: our starting five offensive linemen, are all Pro running back

999
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: and the guy we're paying two hundred and thirty million

1000
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: dollars to play quarterback. He has Joe Flacco looking like

1001
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: it's twenty fifteen and us in position to grab the

1002
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: five seat. You're not in position. You're grabbing the five seed, homie.

1003
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: You guys are going to the playoffs. We also have

1004
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: beaten the Ravens and the Niners, who are both, in

1005
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: my opinion, the two best teams in each conference. Would

1006
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: you agree he deserves Coach of the Year. Here's the

1007
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: thing I will say, it's starting to get a little

1008
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: uglier for my man Dan Campbell MotorCity kiddies. If Dan

1009
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: Campbell wins twelve games for the Lions, it's the fucking

1010
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: Lions now. The way he got there was a little weird.

1011
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: It's still the Lions now. You could argue they won

1012
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: nine games last year, so it's only a three game improvement.

1013
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: The Browns were a disaster last year. They're clearly way better.

1014
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: I definitely think he's throwing his hat in the ring.

1015
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm recording this before Lafleur and Green Bay has played.

1016
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: If they win, he's definitely in the mix. They got

1017
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: rid of Aaron Rodgers and they might make the playoffs

1018
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: with Jordan Love. So yeah, I mean, is it how

1019
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: do we define the award? That would be my question.

1020
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: Is it a guy that had expectations like most everyone

1021
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: with a pulse picked the Lions to be pretty good.

1022
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: So if he wins twelve games, yeah, that's what you

1023
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: should have done. You had a good team. Divisions down

1024
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. Or is it a guy like the

1025
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: Browns who have seen the worst stuff happen on a

1026
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: weekly basis, injury after injury after injury, and quarterback down

1027
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: even Miles Garrett's banged up. You get Joe Flacco off

1028
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: the couch. He's breaking down the team and honestly gave

1029
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: a great speech. I'm like, God, Joe Flackel seems like

1030
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: a cool guy. Yeah, he definitely get it. If McVeigh

1031
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: would have beat the Ravens, he would have definitely been

1032
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: in the mix. But somehow him and Stafford fucked up

1033
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: the timeouts at the end of the game. Big fan

1034
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: of you and Colin, but I wanted to get your

1035
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: take on two things. Colin always compares big Ben and

1036
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Camp as far as physical beings who deteriorated, but I

1037
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think they're really comparable. Cam Newton's last prime year

1038
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: he was twenty nine and big Ben's was thirty six.

1039
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: Seven years is a long time, so thoughts on why

1040
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: he grew from together. I've gotten a lot of this

1041
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot in like our Instagram and

1042
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Twitter comments. Sometimes it's harder when you're on zoom if

1043
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: that comes up again. Because I'm with you, Cam Newton

1044
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: did not have the career big Ben at cam Newton's

1045
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: high was really high, pretty short lived. Big Ben was

1046
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: really good into his mid thirties. He was I mean,

1047
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: big Ben's a Hall of famer, no doubt about it.

1048
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: To me, Cam Newton is not, so I'm in agreement there.

1049
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 1: I think where he lumps them both in together is listen.

1050
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: I think Colin's always been hard on Ben because he

1051
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: thinks that he's an underachiever, which is a weird thing

1052
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: to say for a guy that had the achievement. But

1053
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair. Right, a lot of beer,

1054
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot of odd dogs did not take football as

1055
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: seriously from a training standpoint as Brady, as Rogers, as

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00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: Manning right, and he was physically as gifted as anybody,

1057
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: just like Cam. So I think he lumps them in

1058
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: as like Big Ben in his younger years, all time

1059
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: physical freak. Now, he was a better pocket quarterback as

1060
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: he got older, Cam Newton could not, so that is

1061
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: more than fair. Obviously, Big Ben in his thirties was

1062
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: still very very good. Cam Newton sucked. That. Being said,

1063
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is twenty seven in his take that he

1064
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: has three more prime yeers left. Would you match up

1065
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton's creature actory? Do you think he only

1066
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: has three more years left? Well, if he's twenty seven

1067
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: years old, he takes a lot of physical hits like

1068
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: the one thing. When you watch a lot of these

1069
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: like Mahomes, he is less likely to try to run

1070
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: guys over. And when you run guys over like I

1071
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a deterioration like Cam because

1072
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: Cam was carrying the ball. It's such a high clip

1073
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: because he's, I mean to me, the most greatest power

1074
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: runner of all time from a quarterback. Inevitably, someone's going

1075
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: to crack you and shatter a bone, shatter your shoulder,

1076
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: shatter your elbow. So I wouldn't pick a number because

1077
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: if you told me he played, if he didn't get hurt,

1078
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: he's got five eli years left. But at any moment,

1079
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: something really really bad can happen. It's inevitable. This is football.

1080
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: And while the big hits have been taken out of

1081
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: the game, the speed has never been faster. So if

1082
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: you're not looking and all of a sudden you kind

1083
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: of lower your shoulder and that dra greenlaw that you know,

1084
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: whoever the big hit hitting linebacker, maybe a defensive end TJ.

1085
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: Watt type guy comes and cracks you, it could really

1086
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: injure some stuff. And if that happens, that could throw

1087
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: off his career trajectory. The problem with him is and

1088
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: you saw this forever with cam I want you to run.

1089
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: It's like one of your elite characteristics, but maybe as

1090
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: you age. And this has always been Steve Young's thing,

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: and he wasn't a power runner, but he was a

1092
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: great runner, kind of more like Lamar. See what Lamar's

1093
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: really good at one His touch is dramatically improved as

1094
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: a passer. But when you watch him play, remember how

1095
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning used to just hit the ground like you

1096
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: know people were gonna sack him. He's like, I'm not

1097
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: getting molly wopped. I'll hit the ground and we'll play

1098
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: another damn. Lamar does that when he runs, like Lamar

1099
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: sees like three linebackers are kind of close. He's hits

1100
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: the ground. He doesn't really do the slide. He just

1101
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of plops and that's gonna save his career. Josh Allen,

1102
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean yesterday one of the big plays was him

1103
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: carrying a pile like he was Earl Campbell. To me,

1104
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of Jalen's deal. Like, Okay, everyone's loving the

1105
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: tush push, but can you imagine the pounding guy. I

1106
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: saw someone I think tweet out like what if they

1107
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: just ran the toush push every single play, they'd bleed

1108
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: the clock, they'd have inevitably score. Do you know what

1109
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: that would do to your old line and your quarterback.

1110
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: They'd kill him, especially your old linement. They'd be exhausted.

1111
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: You can't, And I think the guy was kind of

1112
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: being sarcastic, facetious, whatever, But I don't know why can't

1113
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: fans of the NFL see what Mahomes is? A sore

1114
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: loser who cries when he loses and walks off the field. Well.

1115
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: I talked about this on the podcast, So did Brady,

1116
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: so did Tiger, so did Kobe. What did Vince Lombardi say,

1117
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: show me a good loser, I'll show you a loser.

1118
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: He ain't used to losing, right, I mean, most winners

1119
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: don't handle it well. Most rich guys don't handle losing

1120
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: money well. The broke guy handles it better. Why he's

1121
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: not used to any money? Most losing quarterbacks like, oh yeah,

1122
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: he handles himself very well at the podium. Hey, he

1123
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: fucking never wins a game. He's never been a five hundred,

1124
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: it's all he knows. Questioning across the pond thanks to

1125
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: the pod helps me keep in touch in the NFL.

1126
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: The Chiefs obviously not having a good season by their standards.

1127
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: How much do they miss Eric Beenemy being the OC Well,

1128
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: Andy Reeve's been calling place the whole time. I mean,

1129
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: just like Eric Banemy now Matt n Aggie, they periodically

1130
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: call the place. I think their problem is they just

1131
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: ran into the perfect storm. They've drafted some wide receivers

1132
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: who aren't good enough. Rice looks pretty good, but the

1133
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: sky Moore situation has not worked out, and Travis Kelcey

1134
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: is not the same guy. So my guess is this

1135
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: offseason it's less like to me their offense is it's

1136
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's baby. What did Andy Reid say? This guy's

1137
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: never getting a job for me. He's got to leave

1138
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: because I get all the credit rightfully, So, I mean

1139
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: I've seen It's. What I think the Chiefs are gonna

1140
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: do this offseason is they're gonna do two things. They're

1141
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna draft a skill guy really high, especially if they

1142
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: are out in the first round. Let's say they have

1143
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: the twenty third pick. Would it shock you if they

1144
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: trade next year's one to move up to like ten

1145
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: the draft one of the sweet wide receivers, like the

1146
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Florida State, and they will sign a

1147
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: tight end, and I would imagine they will try to

1148
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: do what the Patriots always did. A Mike Evans type guy,

1149
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: an older player who's like, hey man, you want to

1150
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, you want to come play with

1151
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I think they got Mike Evans written all

1152
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: over them, honestly, kind of more surprised Mahomes hasn't lost

1153
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: his shit sooner. He hasn't been playing his best ball.

1154
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: But their receivers are two scoops of ass and relying

1155
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: on a second round rookie to be the number one

1156
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver and thirty four year old Kelsey listen, man,

1157
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: you do not win the Super Bowl every year, You'd

1158
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: be like, middle God, you just love the cheez And

1159
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: you're like, no, I just falled football my whole life.

1160
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: Like when I was really, really young Walston, Montana didn't

1161
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: win the thing every year. Sometimes you have a I

1162
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: had a front row seat like everyone my age to

1163
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: the Belichick Brady experience. They got bounced in the second

1164
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: round every once in a while. The Jets beat him,

1165
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: the Broncos beat him. Like they didn't always win the

1166
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They got to a lot of AFC Championship

1167
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: games and the Chiefs easily still could You're You're not

1168
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: guaranteed every year? I think the thing if you're the

1169
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs a fan, I mean, I bet Andy and veechure

1170
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: it sucks because you get used to winning. You have

1171
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: faith in the future. Why you have an elite coach,

1172
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: you have an elite quarterback, you have an elite general

1173
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: manager like Brett Beach has kind of proven it. Remember

1174
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: last year when they won the Super Bowl with all

1175
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: those random guys on defense, Who the fuck you think

1176
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: picked them? What stops a good NFL coach from leaving

1177
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: a poor franchise for a better one like College Brown's

1178
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: coach is making Joe Flacco look good? But the Browns

1179
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: are never going anywhere and their owners, especially with Watson's

1180
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: big capt starting next year, why doesn't he leave and

1181
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: go get a better organization? Because in CO I am

1182
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: not beholden to a contract status from another team, I

1183
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: truly do not care. It's a relevant maybe depending on

1184
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: the way the contracts written, I have to pay a buyout.

1185
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: But in the pros we're all under the same umbrella.

1186
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: We are all partners. If I'm at USC I'm not

1187
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: a partner with Oklahoma. We're not in the same conference

1188
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: we have. Our businesses aren't connected. I mean, we're all

1189
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: college football teams, but I can steal Lincoln Riley. Right.

1190
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: In the NFL, we all fall under the same contractual umbrella.

1191
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: No different with players. Right. Why can't if I'm the

1192
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: Rams just go sign pick a player DeVante Adams off

1193
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders, he's under contract. Well, if I'm pick a

1194
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: team that needs a head coach, right, let's use the

1195
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: Raiders as an example. Why can't I just hire Bill Belichick? Well,

1196
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: he's under contract with the Patriots. So they have rules

1197
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: because of the business model, but they're all business together. Ultimately.

1198
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: What makes the league and just professional sports leagues unique,

1199
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: especially the NFL. Right, In professional basketball, the television rights

1200
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: from ESPN and TNT are the big rights, but we

1201
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: also have individual rights with our local networks. Right. I

1202
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: was listening to a podcast talking about the history of

1203
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. Once upon a time, way back in the day,

1204
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 1: the Jets had an independent television deal in New York

1205
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: and then eventually I forget exactly who it was might

1206
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: have been under Roselle. Again, not a football historian, but

1207
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: they all got together and said, you know, we're stronger

1208
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: as a unit. Right. Yet, in the immediate you might

1209
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: lose a little money, but in the aggregate, long, long view,

1210
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: big picture, we're all gonna make more. And they were right, right,

1211
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: It's not that way in other sports. The Dodgers, the Giants,

1212
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: the Yankees, whoever their local market is where they do business.

1213
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: In the NFL, like, think about this, who's the team

1214
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: that's shitty? Right? The Panthers are a joke, right, They're

1215
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna get the same amount of money as the Cowboys,

1216
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the forty nine ers, who have been

1217
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: a part of the biggest games, the biggest television ratings.

1218
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: Yet when CBS, ABC, Fox, NBC cut the media checks

1219
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: throughout the year, the same goes to Jerry as goes

1220
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: to David Tepper. What makes it the most incredible business?

1221
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, definitely in sports, and one of the great

1222
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: businesses we have in America right now is because they

1223
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: use their group. It's why like, Okay, you want Sean Payton,

1224
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: well technically still in a contract, so Denver, if you

1225
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: want him, it's gonna cost you a first round pick,

1226
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: even though he took a year off. I actually think

1227
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: it's smart. And that's one issue we have in college

1228
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: sports is there's no unity. Not everyone. I mean, the

1229
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: SEC is united, the Big Ten is united, but they're

1230
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: not everyone's on the same page. Just a question on Mahomes.

1231
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier. I think it's really just

1232
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: they're not used to losing. They really aren't. I don't

1233
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: care if things are as clear as day when you're

1234
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: used to something and then something goes the other way,

1235
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: even if you're a high level guy, even if you're

1236
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: a professional, you fucking crack. Why does tom after every

1237
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowl he ever lost, storm off the field like

1238
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: a little cry baby. He's a terrible loser, awful Why

1239
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: he's a winner? Uh? Stefanski over Tomlin right now? For sure?

1240
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: The Belichick Lee Corso was pretty cool. Someone just send

1241
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: me the video if I remember. I didn't watch it live.

1242
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: And I get a couple of people texting me if

1243
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: I'd ever been to the Army Navy game, and I

1244
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: went when I lived in Philly. It used to be

1245
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: at the Link. I mean it basically travels between where

1246
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles play where the Ravens play. I don't remember

1247
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: it being in Boxboro, but maybe Kraft got ahold of it.

1248
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: Obviously was just there. Listen, I ran the wing team

1249
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: in high school, so I have a soft spot. Especially

1250
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's a little pulling guard right here. It's

1251
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: pretty terrible, but I tried. I got tossed one time

1252
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: by Kyle Devan when we played when we played Vackville

1253
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: High School. But the pageantry in the pre game a

1254
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: couple hours before is the coolest thing you'll ever see.

1255
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: If you love America, that two hours is about as

1256
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: cool as it gets. It's truly pretty special. You know

1257
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: the game, I mean it's not exactly Bam LSU, but

1258
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: everything surrounding the game. It's a powerful moment, it really is.

1259
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: It's a I'm glad I did it when I was there.

1260
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: My nightmare scenario is starting to unfold. Bears are five

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01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: and four in their last nine, but it's obvious Fields

1262
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: still can't read a defense. Do you think it's possible

1263
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: the Bears bring Field? No chance? Field is done. This

1264
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: is not gonna be the Bears quarterback next year. Now,

1265
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: if you told me the Panthers thing never happened and

1266
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: they just ended up with the tenth pick, I would say, yeah,

1267
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: Field's gonna be your quarterback next year? You have the

1268
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Feels if I was a betting

1269
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: man right now he's on the Falcons. But why when

1270
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots and there are a ton of teams are gonna

1271
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: be interested. You see some of the Who's Minnesota's quarterback?

1272
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: That there are countless teams that are just it happens

1273
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: every single year that you're like, oh, screw it, we

1274
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: can get this guy for you know, Colin thought on one.

1275
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. His contract is going into

1276
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: year four, you have to pick up a fifth year option.

1277
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: I think he goes for like a third round pick

1278
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: would be my guess. But I do think he's somewhere

1279
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: else next year. And I still believe ibra Flus. The

1280
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: one problem with the Bears is like Kevin Warren, the

1281
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: guy that used to run the Big Ten, he's there now.

1282
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't love what administrators get to take

1283
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: over football, Like what the fuck do you know about football? Like, well,

1284
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: why do you just get to run an NFL team?

1285
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: That would make me nervous as a Bears fan like

1286
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: this this guy gets to do it, Like listen, we

1287
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: can argue about some of Ryan Poles's move. It's here GM.

1288
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: He makes some bad decisions. Shit happens like listen, I

1289
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool move all time, moronic move. Right, Panther move, fantastic,

1290
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: awesome move to get DJ Moore, who's under contract as well. Right,

1291
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: I could argue the Montese sweat. I can see both sides.

1292
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, but maybe I value picks too much.

1293
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: You know, I heard Colin go on this rant about

1294
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: how you know the Cowboys got Gilmore for a fifth

1295
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: round pick. I'm all for mid round picks. I think

1296
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: second round picks, especially when you're not that good. Now

1297
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: if that pick ends up being fifty, listen, I'm not

1298
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: stubborn enough to change my opinion. But Ryan Poles, here's

1299
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: what I know. Ryan Polf's played in the NFL. He

1300
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: scouted and worked for Andy Reid for a long time.

1301
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: I if Ebra Flu's gotta go, unless Ebra Flues wants

1302
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: to be my defensive coordinator, I need to get an

1303
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: offensive head coach. I'll let Ryan Poles get another bite

1304
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: at the Apple. I just can't. I don't like when

1305
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: administrators get their hands in things. It feels too much

1306
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: like government. A bunch of people like, what the fuck

1307
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: are you actually doing? I'll tell you what you're doing.

1308
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: You want to get your name in bright lights and

1309
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: get credit for shit that you have nothing to do with.

1310
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: Just just sell the freaking tickets, sell the sweets, keep

1311
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: your mouth shut, put on a suit on game day,

1312
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: sit by the owners, stay out of football. Another cowboy,

1313
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: take two parter, so bear with me. Dan Quinn is

1314
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: an elite coordinator, and it was a top pick for

1315
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: several teams a few years ago. But he chose, say

1316
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: in Dallas, clearly for less money. Well, if you said, John,

1317
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: what do you think dan Quinn makes, I'd say minimum

1318
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: five million dollars. So yeah, I guess you know. He

1319
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: might have been a head coach for seven million dollars.

1320
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: But wait, I don't get any responsibility a head coach

1321
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: has to deal with. I don't have to deal with

1322
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: half the team. You paid me five million dollars in

1323
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: big d What can organizations do holistically to keep premium

1324
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: coordinators from jumping ship? Hey, it's just that simple cut

1325
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: checks right if the guy doesn't. But if a guy

1326
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: wants to leave, he's gonna leave, because let's face it,

1327
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: there is a big difference but dan Quinn was already rich.

1328
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's already been a head coach. So dan Quinn

1329
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: has millions of dollars in the bank, right, So to me,

1330
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: if he wanted to jump ship, if there's an offer there,

1331
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: It just comes down to this. In football, there are

1332
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: meeting rooms, especially the coaching staff slash scout meeting rooms.

1333
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 1: There's a long table, a long rectangle rectangular table. Typically

1334
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: the head coach sits at the front right. Everyone else

1335
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: sits on the sides. Coordinators included. Are you cool with

1336
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: sitting on the side or do you want to sit

1337
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: back at the front, Because when he sit at the front,

1338
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: everyone looks at you like a quarterback in the huddle.

1339
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: They answer to you. So that to me is a

1340
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: powerful thing that like once you're already rich. Maybe he

1341
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: likes doing this, he's, like you said, he's awesome at it.

1342
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: Now I'd be interested to see him get another shot.

1343
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: Like to me, Vic Fangio, well, awesome coordinator, that's where

1344
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: he belongs. Todd Bowles probably the same thing. Not probably,

1345
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: I mean I think he is even though he's he's

1346
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: respectable as a head coach. It's not terrible. But he

1347
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: just like Dan Quinn and just like Vic Fangio, someone

1348
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: would give him a three year deal at fifteen million dollars.

1349
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: It's more money than anyone's getting in, Like, I mean,

1350
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: he'd make more money than a lot of college coaches.

1351
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: Me and the coordinator also, no need to say, but

1352
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys are a huge draw for TV rating,

1353
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming talking Dallas on the pod provides upticking streams. Yeah,

1354
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I subscribe, Like I'm a big market guy,

1355
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: so I'm naturally gonna lean. You know, I watched those teams,

1356
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: but if the Cowboys were four and twelve, I wouldn't

1357
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: talk about them, and maybe that would be a problem,

1358
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: like the reason the Niners, Eagles, and Cowboys are three

1359
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: of the biggest brands in the league. But they're also

1360
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: the best teams. So it's it makes it pretty easy,

1361
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: right if they sucked and other teams were up top,

1362
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 1: I just tal falcking. What's I lean in to? Pretty simple,

1363
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: like try to talk about what I want to talk about,

1364
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: and luckily, I think I lean toward the right things

1365
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: to talk about. But I'm not a big force force

1366
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: a guy. The Cowboys to me are interesting because they're

1367
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: fucking good. I mean, they're just they're really good. They've

1368
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: been in two of the bigger games this season one

1369
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: to one. I guess three of them, the two Eagle games,

1370
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: the Niner game. They're they're interesting. I mean, might have

1371
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: the MVP of the league. They got Mike McCarthy, former

1372
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packer, the Green Bay Packer, same thing, massive brand.

1373
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: If Jordan Love it sucked and they're two win team,

1374
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: they're not as interesting. They start winning games. Jordan Love

1375
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: looks good season talk about, So I think it's less

1376
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: to me about streams and clicks and first and foremost

1377
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: being interesting. And luckily, for the most part, the big brands,

1378
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: the major players are involved in the important shit, right,

1379
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: Like are Peyton Manning and Tom Brady bigger deals than

1380
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: everyone else in the league When they're playing. Of course,

1381
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: they're also typically on the best teams, so it's double whammy,

1382
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: like talking about the Yankee team over and over that's

1383
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: not gonna make the play off kind of bores me.

1384
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,879
Speaker 1: How bad did the Eagles get shafted by the schedule?

1385
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean doesn't I mean last year their schedule was

1386
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: a joke. So, I mean, part of having a first

1387
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: play schedule is you play good teams, right. I mean

1388
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: one thing they have is like the NFC West in

1389
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: the AFC or in the NFC's played each other. It's

1390
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: like the Niners play the Cowboys and the Eagles, right.

1391
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: The Cowboys play the Rams and they beat them. They

1392
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: play all these teams. I don't think it shafted by

1393
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 1: the schedule, which is part of the way it works.

1394
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: Bills are six and six, the Chiefs are struggling, and

1395
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: they beat those two teams. You don't just look at

1396
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: the end of the schedule. I mean they get the

1397
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: Giants twice in the Cardinals in Seattle, who fucking sucks.

1398
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: I was an average at best high school wide receiver,

1399
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: but we were always taught to check with the ref

1400
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: to confirm we are on the line of scrimmage. Tony

1401
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: was clearly over the ball. Do NFL refs help out

1402
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: wide receivers on their alignment? I would assume if Tony

1403
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: didquote unquote check, there was video going around. He points,

1404
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: he points at the ref, but he's not really even

1405
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: looking at him, and he just kind of puts his

1406
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: head down. Right, It's one of those like, hey, how

1407
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 1: you doing, But I'm not even looking at your face.

1408
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 1: So I don't even know what you're saying to me.

1409
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: It was a pretty fake check with the side, but

1410
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: I hear you like in that moment. Do you know

1411
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: why football coaches in the sport of football has so

1412
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,440
Speaker 1: much in common like the military, because details and discipline

1413
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: are so important. The fundamentals on your footwork in the

1414
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in December are just as important as they

1415
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: are September, you know, against a shitty team, right the

1416
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: details of pointing at the referee a pretty you would say. Overall,

1417
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, small minute detail of

1418
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: the sport is just as critical in practice as it

1419
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: is in a preseason game as it is final play

1420
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: against you know, Josh Allen's Buffalo bills, and details of

1421
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: a guy like you know, Jerry Rice or DeVante Adams,

1422
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: a guy that just would never screw that up. And

1423
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: a guy like Tony who clearly has a lot of talent,

1424
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: a lot we could debate how much Townys, but he's

1425
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: definitely a talented player, and something's missing like that Tyreek

1426
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: Hill never had that would never in a million years,

1427
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: hat that would never happen to Travis Kelsey, that would

1428
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: never happen to George Kittle that would never ever like

1429
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith on his worst day, wouldn't make that mistake.

1430
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, no fucking chance. Details matter in anything we do.

1431
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: And the standard is the standard when no one's looking

1432
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: and when everyone's looking. And if you carry that over,

1433
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: it's why athletes take if you take everything, you know,

1434
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: if you take one thing serious, you can take everything serious.

1435
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: And it feels like Tony's like, eh, not a big

1436
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: serious guy. Drops you know, my hands whatever. Maybe he's

1437
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: just got bad hands. I don't know. Just wanted to

1438
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 1: say I'm a big Titans fan, but at the point

1439
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: in the season, I just want to watch good games.

1440
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: But eight flags in the first quarter the Cowboys versus

1441
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles game, what the I F players can't even

1442
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: play at this point. This is supposed to be a

1443
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: rivalry looking like an ocean meeting. Just wanted to see

1444
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: what your take is. Listen. I think officials in general

1445
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: get too involved, like just let a game breathe, just

1446
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: let it no different a broadcast. Just let the game happen.

1447
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes it's very difficult for them to

1448
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 1: almost take a step back and the referee vitriol people

1449
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: up in arms. Has only grown over the years, because

1450
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: it definitely feels like they've struggled with just letting things

1451
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: be like some some stuff TICKI tak. They're battling downfield

1452
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: like not everything's defensive holding. This is the pros. This

1453
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: is not a high school football game, like let them play.

1454
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: There are millions of dollars on the line. It's got

1455
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: to be difficult to judge these guys in full speed situations.

1456
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: But it's never been worse. And uh yeah, every time

1457
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: you see a flag on the field, you're like, what

1458
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: is going on? But then it goes the other way too,

1459
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: like when you see plays like where's the flag? So

1460
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: it's it's just one of the variables in the sport

1461
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: of football that listen to everyone bitches and moans. But

1462
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: thirty million people are watching these games until you turn

1463
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: off the TV and stop watching. I just don't think

1464
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 1: anything's ever gonna change the volume.