WEBVTT - With a Little Help from my Friends 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.880 A group of high school student High school. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.280 Students Elizabethan High School students started a project to research 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:12.719 a string of unsolved murders. Their research led to the identification. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:12.840 Of the killer. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.880 Investigators now have an answer to a thirty four year 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:16.640 old question. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.880 Once you start getting a few tips, or a few 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.639 leads or few identifications, then the cold case isn't so 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:25.360 cold anymore. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.240 There's a pretty good chance he's still alive. 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.000 Everything that the students predicted through their profile turned out 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:32.720 to be accurate. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:38.680 Redhead killer profile mal Caucasian, five nine six, two hundred 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.120 and seventy pounds, unstable home, absent father, and a domineering mother, 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.920 right handed, a Q above one hundred, most likely heterosexual. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.960 There is no profile of this killer except for the 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.240 ones the students created. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.800 Just because some of these women no longer have people 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:55.600 to speak for them does not mean that they desire 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:56.800 to not be so anymore. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.160 What if this guy's still alive? 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:59.480 Like what becomes after us? 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:00.840 You're gonna kill me? 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:09.160 Yeah, this is Murder one on one, Season one, episode two, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:16.559 With a little help from my friends. I'm Jeff Sheen, 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.920 a television and podcast producer at Kati Studios with Stephanie Leideker, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.839 Courtney Armstrong, and Andrew Arno. Once the class had named 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.800 their killer, they wanted to focus on the victims connected 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.560 by his senseless crimes. Who were these six women? And 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.280 why did he choose them to die? 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.039 How do six women go missing and nobody knows that 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.480 they're missing. There were six victims, all with red or 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.280 reddish hair. Only one of the victims is identified. They 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.280 were found along like highways or interstates. Most of them 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.320 were in Tennessee, there was one in West Virginia, Kentucky. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.920 They were all around the South, So we named the 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.440 killer the Bible Belt strangler, just because he was killing 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.040 in the Bible belts of more suffocated. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.800 They also had some other interesting similarities. They were all white, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.320 all of them were estrange from their family, Many of 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.760 them were transient, oftentimes involved with prostitution, and it appeared 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:16.120 that many of them were actually abducted on or along 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.720 the interstate, so was this tie to these interstates. They 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.600 were either pregnant, had recently lost a baby, or had 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.239 had a c section, so there were some very interesting 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.520 things though. They were all killed up close with the hands, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.959 so some of them had blunt force trauma. Or suffocation 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.880 or strangling was how they died. So those are the 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.239 major similarities. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.320 It's scary to think that somebody in my community or 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.480 in any community could go missing and nobody look for her, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.760 nobody know her name, and she'd be found a state 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:48.799 away and nobody knows that she's from here. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.480 During the semester, junior Cayle Van Dervor recalls the assignment 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.960 structure our class. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.120 We each divided into groups to pick a specific victim. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.600 We got to know every detail about that victim, and 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.760 we felt very connected to our victim. I had the 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.120 West Virginia victim, and I picked her because I have 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.119 family in West Virginia, so I felt very connected to her. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.080 I felt like I would basically say, I felt like 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.840 she was family because I'd worked so hard to find 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:24.120 her justice. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.360 Here's what we know about each victim, according to mister 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.040 Campbell's classes research. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.200 At Campbell County Jane Doe. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.160 On January first, nineteen eighty five, the body of a 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.080 woman was found disposed of over the side of the 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:42.880 guardrail near Stinking Creek in Campbell County, Tennessee. The body 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.760 was hauled up the embankment off the southbound side of 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.800 Interstate seventy five in the small town of Jellicoe. The 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.680 victim had been dead for an estimated three days and 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.360 was in an advanced state of decomposition. She had been 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.680 beaten bound with strips of cloth taken from her shirt 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.280 and strangled with a ligature. She was Caucasian and had 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.080 shoulder length, curly red hair. Her age was estimated to 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.600 be between seventeen and twenty five, but possibly as old 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.480 as thirty. The victim was found clothed in a tan pullover, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.279 a shirt and jeans. The young woman had freckles over 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.720 her body in various scars, including a burn mark on 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.040 one arm. She was ten to twelve weeks pregnant. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:25.320 When she died. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.680 She had a partial upper denture holding two false teeth. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.760 It is believed that she was between five foot one 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.400 and five foot four inches when she died, and was 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.400 approximately one hundred and ten to one hundred and fifteen 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.479 pounds with green eyes. Additionally, she had been wrapped in 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.600 what has been variously described as a blanket, comforter or bedspread. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.479 Cheatham County, Jane Doe. On March thirty first, nineteen eighty five, 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.599 the skeletonized body of a red haired female was found 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.600 in Pleasant View, Cheatham County, Tennessee, by a driver who 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.839 had a mechanical breakdown. She was believed to have died 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.800 between three and five months previously from an unknown cause. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.080 Her remains were found at the side of Intersex twenty four, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.480 between mile markers twenty nine and thirty, in the same 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.560 timeframe as the rest of the victims in the known 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:21.200 physical features being similar. The body was found with a shirt, sweater, pants, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:25.240 and underwear. She was white, between five feet and five 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.080 feet two inches tall. However, her weight could not be determined. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.520 An examination of her teeth showed that the victim had 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.920 some evidence of crowding and overlapping in her mouth. This 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.560 woman was believed to be between the ages of thirty 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:43.080 one and forty at the time of her death. The 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:44.480 Knox County Jane Doe. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.279 On April one, nineteen eighty five, the body of a 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:52.559 woman was found in a large white admiral refrigerator in Gray, 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.880 Knox County, Kentucky, alongside Route twenty five. Her death was 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:01.000 by suffocation. Contradicting reports have her being killed from the 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.560 night before to a few days earlier. Distinguishing features of 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.719 the body included a number of moles on the right 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.240 side of her neck, near one ankle and below each breast, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:16.120 a yellow stained upper incisor, and a scar and other 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.719 marks on her abdomen indicating that she had borne at 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.200 least one child. Her eyes were light brown and hair 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.120 was red and nearly a foot long, which fit the 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.880 pattern of the red Head murders. After the autopsy, this 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.120 victim was determined to be between twenty four and thirty 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.520 five years old and approximately four feet nine to four 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.159 feet eleven inches tall. The victim was nude except for 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.680 two distinctive necklace pendits, one of a heart and the 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.240 other of a gold colored eagle, and two pairs of socks, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.680 one white and the other white with green and yellow stripes. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.120 There are reports that the victim may have been soliciting 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.680 a ride to North Carolina over seabee radio, and she 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.599 could have been at a nearby truck stop the previous 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.440 knot Five hundred people attended the Jane Doe victim's funeral, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.960 which was even televised, and a headstone and burial plot 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.920 were donated. The case was a local sensation, as the 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.200 town was a quiet and sleepy place where little out 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.960 of the ordinary usually happened. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:23.080 The DeSoto County Jane Doe is a woman found murdered 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:27.920 on January twenty fourth, nineteen eighty five, in Olive Branch, Mississippi. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.760 The victim was found by a truck driver driving southbound 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.320 on US Highway seventy eight, one hundred feet east of 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.520 Coldwater River Bridge at around seven thirty a m. Her 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:44.000 body was twenty feet south of the highway and her shoes, undergarments, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.080 and jacket were missing. She was strangled with a ligature 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.160 and possibly sexually assaulted. Authorities speculate she may have been 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.080 tossed over the side of the bridge. She was estimated 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.400 to be twenty to forty years old. She was approximately 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.320 five feet two inches to five feet four inches tall, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.680 with a weight of one hundred and five to one 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.560 hundred and thirty pounds. She is believed to have been 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.760 a heavy smoker. She had three piercings in each ear 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.240 and her fingernails were deeply bitten. She also was a 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:19.960 Caucasian with red hair. The Campbell County Jane Doe. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.480 On April third, nineteen eighty five, the skeletonized partial remains 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.400 of a young girl were discovered about two hundred yards 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.720 off Big Wheel Gap Road, four miles southwest of Jellico, Tennessee, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.480 in Campbell County, near a stripmond. She was believed to 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.600 have been dead between one and four years Her age 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.240 was estimated between nine and fifteen years old. She was 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.960 found by a passerby in an area where trash was 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.600 often dumped, and it appeared her body had been moved 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.319 from its original site because of animal activity. The cause 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.720 of death was listed as undetermined, which did not rule 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.360 out homicide. Thirty two bones, including her skull, were recovered 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.880 from the scene. Walker was Caucasian, had a very small 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.760 build with red hair and freckles. A necklace and bracelet 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.160 made of plastic buttons were found nearby, as well as 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.720 a pair of size five boots and a few scraps 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.440 of clothing. The Green County Jane Doe. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.160 On April fourteenth, nineteen eighty five, the body of a 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.240 young white female was found in Greenville, Green County, Tennessee. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.840 Her body was discovered by a fisherman in the brush 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.160 beside a small creek that was fifty eight feet from 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.920 the exit ramp for Gerald'stown Road. She was determined to 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.760 have been killed between three and six weeks previously, and 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.600 her body was in an advanced state of decomposition. She 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.760 appeared to be beaten and died, most likely from blunt 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.680 forest trauma, which caused a head wound and could not 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:54.360 roll out a laceration to an internal organ. However, decomposition 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.720 hindered these assessments. She had been approximately six to eight 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.120 weeks pregnant shortly by before she died, but had miscarried 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.560 before her death. She was estimated to be fourteen to 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.240 twenty years old, possibly as old as twenty five. She 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.040 was approximately five feet four inches to five feet six 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.160 inches tall, with a weight of one hundred and thirty 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.920 to one hundred and forty pounds. She had a slight 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.920 overby and had some feelings in her teeth, showing that 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.960 she had dental care in her life. Her fingernails had 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.960 pink polish. She had light brown to blonde hair with 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.880 red highlights. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.760 Only one of the six victims would be identified. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:39.640 The Crittenden County Jane Doe. On September sixteenth, nineteen eighty four, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:44.120 the body of a woman was found in Critenon County, Arkansas, 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.640 along Interstate forty near West Memphis. Despite all the traffic. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.280 Her body lay alongside the highway for four days before 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:57.480 a hitchhiker noticed nichols corpse and contacted local authorities. She 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.360 was found near the exit ramp. Her body had been 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.920 there for several days and was beginning to decompose. Her 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.880 body was covered only by the remnants of a nit top. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.679 She had been killed by strangulation. She was identified as 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.120 a twenty eight year old Lisa Nichols. She was Caucasian 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.400 and had a petite frame. Her family members described her 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.680 as growing up with beautiful red hair, but many would 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.000 characterize it as strawberry blonde. By this time. She was 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.000 identified by a couple from Florida who had allowed her 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.680 to stay with them for a period of time. She 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.600 was positively identified through fingerprints. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:41.959 Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:56.440 a moment. Murder one oh one with their list of 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.000 six victims, the class wanted to figure out what drew 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.760 the killer to these particular ku woman. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.080 Were looked at two parts, the how of the crime 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.040 and the why of the crime. So the how would 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.199 be things like picking up people along the interstate, killing 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.600 them with a knife or something like that, but the 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.800 why is really what drives the killer to do this? 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.080 Why do they want to choose a redhead, Why do 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.360 they want to choose Caucasian? Why do they want to 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.679 choose somebody who's in the sex trade. Why would they 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:27.520 prefer to kill. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.480 Them with their hands instead of a gun or knife. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.080 That's what makes each. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.160 Killer an individual is that there's this profile they share 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.440 which hardly any other killer will match. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.360 I think, especially with the prominence of legal and law 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.920 enforcement and crime see investigation entertainment that you see on 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.400 TV and in the movies and right now, that that 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.880 helps peak the interest of the students in a situation 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.760 like this, and also to explore what it's really like 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.040 true or is it really you know, much more difficult 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.079 and dirty. My name is Josh, But when I'm and 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.440 what Elizabeth? In high school, the first I heard about 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.000 it was when mister Campbell came to me and pitched 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.720 the idea. He's walked in and say, I got kind 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:06.960 of a crazy idea. Let me see what you think 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.959 about it. Honestly, the first thought is usually wow, what 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.200 would happen if this was was my inn, or my 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.840 sister or you know, someone in my community. Now, you know, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.320 how would I feel and what would I want the 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:19.760 justice system to do? 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.800 But how did the project fit into Elizabeth In High 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:23.880 school's curriculum. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.520 Our job is obviously to teach academic standards in your 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.760 English and math and science, but even more so, we 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.240 have a social responsibility to our students to prepare them 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.920 for life after school. How do you engage with people? 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.960 How do you engage in your community? How do you 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.439 apply what you've learned? I think that that's a school 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.160 we're really focusing heavily on right now, is how can 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.880 we take this basic core knowledge and really apply that 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.560 to our personal lives. Would I rather be doing something 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.439 like that or sitting in class learning from a textbook, 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.480 hatting a lecture from a teacher? You know, really just 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.160 kind of thought it'd be a great idea for the 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.000 kids to apply what they're learning and kind of take ownership. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.640 But when the students, you know, step into a role 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.600 where they're they're learning and their their application and knowledge 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.040 ties to the community and ties to the world around them, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.679 and they become passionate and interested in the subject matter, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.360 the learning almost comes as a secondhand product of that, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.160 and it's it's fun and it's exciting for them, and 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.880 they're engaged in a way that you don't always see students. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.920 If you look back in human history, you know, at 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.960 times a fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year olds considered a grown 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.880 adult and had grown responsibilities. And too many times we 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.920 don't expect enough of our youth. You know, Yes, they 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.600 still need mentoring, and they still need help, they still 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.960 need guidance, but they're capable of phenomenal things. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.000 As the semester continued, the class worked in groups to 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:45.960 uncover information. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.240 We shared information like if the group that was working 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.040 on a victim found something that might help another group. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.200 They shared that one group found the podcast that Shane 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.360 had done about the murders, and then like, we relay 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.400 all our information to mister Campbell and he would make 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:02.160 the phone calls. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.080 And then Alex found me through Facebook and explains that 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.640 he's a teacher out of Tennessee. In his class, is 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.280 noticed that one of the Jane does in this case 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.480 is in their county and he would like to do 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.280 some type of project with his students. To be honest 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.080 with you, I thought that it was a weird prank. 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:29.320 So I'm Shane Shane Waters from a foul play crime 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.720 series podcast been doing this podcast for a long time, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.560 started it in January of twenty fourteen, which makes it 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.680 one of the only crime series podcasts that predates Cereal. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.360 Shane Waters is a podcaster and journalist who happened to 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.560 be working on a story about the same six women. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.600 I try to come up with some type of similarities 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.040 between the victims and try to find some type of 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.560 link of which ones were more than likely linked together, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.840 and that's when I came with the six. The only 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:03.160 one that I thought could be the seventh was a 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.960 young child who was also found in Campbell County, but 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.680 she was so young, and I thought that was going 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.040 to be a really far fetched thing just because of 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.880 her age. So I ended up not including her and 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.280 just calling it the six. When Alex and I had 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.120 our first conversation, he was like, how many did you 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.520 come up with? And I was like six, and he's like, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.760 what six? And I told him which six I had, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.360 and he's like, that's funny because that's the sixth we had. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.840 Shane had a deep connection that drew him to the story. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.800 So before I went into college, I was actually homeless. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.160 I was in high school and I was homeless. Yeah, 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.920 and because of the experience of being homeless, I would 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.520 go on and that's why I was so determined to 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.440 make sure that these women who people were calling throwaway people, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.720 that people, you know, take them seriously. But I know 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.960 what it's like to feel less than a human being 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.040 and for other people to treat you. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.800 Like that, which is why when Shane first connected with 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.280 meter Campbell, he felt it was important to make sure 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.720 the class was going to handle these cases with care. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.080 And the very first conversation I have with him when 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.080 he told me that his students wanted to work on 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.560 this case, I was very nervous because I already knew 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.359 at that point in time why the case in this 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.240 series of cases had gone cold. I knew that it 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.600 was because society was treating these women less than people. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.080 So I was curious on how high school students would 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:33.399 portray sex workers. I was amazed that they understood and 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:39.040 that they came away with the understanding of knowing that 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:44.040 these women weren't defined by where they were in that 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.240 point in their lives. 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.040 Sex Workers are often ignored when it comes to crimes 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.359 committed against them, despite the fact that they are among 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.359 the most vulnerable populations. According to a report by the 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.280 World Health Organization, sex workers experience high levels of violence, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.240 including physical assault, rape, and murder. Further, up to seventy 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.919 five percent of sex workers report experiencing violence at some 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.200 point in their lives. Another study found that only twenty 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.280 five percent of homicides against sex workers in the US 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.320 resulted in an arrest, compared to the sixty one percent 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:22.040 of rest rate for homicides in general. Ignoring crimes against 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.720 sex workers perpetuates the stigma and discrimination that these people face, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.399 making it more difficult for them to access services and 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.480 support when they need it the most. This is a 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.639 human rights issue that requires urgent attention and action by policymakers, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.119 law enforcement, and society at large. Shane was shocked to 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.320 discover that he and mister Campbell's class seemed to be 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.200 the only ones working these cases. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:44.600 But then the more that I read about it, I 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.320 was just like, this is very weird that no one 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.280 knows about this, Like why were these riverages forgotten about? 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.679 Like surely this case was solved or something like what 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:57.120 am I missing? So I called the TBI and eventually 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.040 I talked to this lady and the lady explains to 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.959 me that the case was still unsolved, and the case 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:10.920 was with the cold case unit, but it wasn't an 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:16.400 active case that's being worked out. She was just very 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.200 not having it. And I was like, is there someone 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.320 of the cold case team by her contact if I 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.680 receieking tips And she's like, no, we would contact you. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.359 You don't contact them, and I was like okay, and 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:28.919 then she hung up on me, and I was like, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.800 that was a very odd interaction. So that was like 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.160 the very first contact that I have with the TBI. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:41.640 I was very confused at that point on one why 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.840 the case wasn't being covered in the media since the eighties, 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.679 and then also why the TBI was telling me that 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:48.640 it wasn't being. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.440 Worked Soon, Shane and the class got into a groove. 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.960 It was kind of like they were working in a 0:19:55.000 --> 0:20:01.600 classroom and doing like the FBI work and like the 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.560 book work, like the textbook work, and then I was 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.600 out in the field doing the on the ground work 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.800 and talking to people, and then I would go back 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.280 to the school and report back and we would collaborate. Then. 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.160 So I would go out and go to the locations 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.280 and talk to all these people and you know, actually 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.680 see the locations where these women were dropped and talk 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.440 to the locals, talk to the people who own the property, 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:32.760 talk to eyewitnesses. So each time I found those bits 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.679 and pieces, I would kind of go back to the 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.480 school to report my findings. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.399 For Shane, there were advantages to having the class have 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:39.960 his back. 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.200 I'm out there talking to people, and the last thing 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.480 I'm sure the killer would have wanted was for work 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.520 to get out, you know. So the fact that I 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:52.640 have a classroom of students and a teacher in Tennessee 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.720 who if I go missing, they would be ringing doorbells, 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.000 you know what I mean. So that also was comforting 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.840 as well, because it was kind of scary, to be 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.800 honest with you, because I don't know if you've ever 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.800 been to rural Kentucky or Tennessee or or West Virginia, 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.239 but you don't have cell phone service out there, so 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.359 you're going and knocking on doors and you're you don't 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.760 know who is going to be answering that door or 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.640 if you're gonna be very welcome, Like it's it's kind 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.920 of scary. I'm I'm almost shaking right now just telling 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.439 you about it. I'm a very large person, like I'm 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.679 very very tall, but when you're out there alone, it 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.320 was a little scary. I'm not gonna lie. 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.400 Shane Waters wouldn't be the only ally the class had. 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.719 You know, I always had a respected law enforcement But 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.080 you know, it's kind of offensive in a way when 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.600 somebody says, well, you're a wanna be cop. It's if 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.000 I wanted to be a cop, I perfectly will could 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.840 have been. If I wanted to be, I could have 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.119 DoD the normal route. I'm not trying to go behind 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:54.879 the thing. I don't want to be a cop. So 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:59.160 my name is Todd Matthews and currently I'm the executive 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.919 director for donat at Work and then NAMOUS. The National 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.480 Missing and Unidentified Person Systems nam US is based on 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:10.520 dental rakers standing a fingerprint analysis and fairly clinical descriptions 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.639