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Speaker 1: Draft is two weeks away, and it's that time of
Speaker 1: the year where many of us form very strong opinions
Speaker 1: about guys we've barely or never seen play, and that's
Speaker 1: the goal of this podcast. We are going to learn
Speaker 1: about the thirteen players who have been most frequently connect
Speaker 1: the Bengals and mock drafts from local experts who have
Speaker 1: watched them play in person. Well go alphabetically, and the
Speaker 1: first two players happen to be from the same school,
Speaker 1: Alabama guard Tyler Booker and Crimson Tide linebacker Jahad Campbell.
Speaker 1: I talked about that duo in reverse order with former
Speaker 1: Alabama quarterback and current Crimson Tide radio analyst Tyler Watts.
Speaker 1: Tyler Jahad Campbell let Alabama and tackle sacks and forced fumbles.
Speaker 1: He has described as a explosive, physical athlete. What will
Speaker 1: an NFL team get in Jahad Campbell?
Speaker 3: Are you universatile player?
Speaker 4: A guy who can play in the box but also
Speaker 4: get out and coverage. He has the length to be
Speaker 4: able to fight off of blockers, but also the speed
Speaker 4: to be able to get.
Speaker 3: Him to the perimeter.
Speaker 4: So he's a tool that a lot of defenses at
Speaker 4: that next level will definitely find a place to plug
Speaker 4: him in. He's a workhorse. He has played through Andrew.
Speaker 4: He's a lot of motivation in his background as well,
Speaker 4: which always has taken into consideration. But just a really
Speaker 4: good guy to the teammates obviously love him. He works hard,
Speaker 4: he plays even harder, and you're right, he just goes
Speaker 4: about his business.
Speaker 3: And we used to look up at the stat sheets.
Speaker 4: At the end of all the games and say, well,
Speaker 4: I guess he's leading in tackles again with ten eleven,
Speaker 4: twelve tackles on the day.
Speaker 3: It's Geehi Campbell.
Speaker 4: He's just really versatile player that can do a lot
Speaker 4: of different things for defenses.
Speaker 2: Tyler.
Speaker 1: You mentioned pass coverage. It's so important now in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and he's a big guy at two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: five pounds. How good is he in that aspect of
Speaker 1: his game?
Speaker 4: He was one of the better that Alabama had at
Speaker 4: that level. He was asked to do a lot of
Speaker 4: different things, and you're right. As offenses continue to diverse
Speaker 4: in what they're able to do with personnel and especially
Speaker 4: understanding who you have in your division, it's important to
Speaker 4: have a kind of hybrid guy that can do multiple things,
Speaker 4: and Jahad definitely has the ability to.
Speaker 3: He's a quick learner and he's been asked.
Speaker 4: To do a couple of different roles in his college
Speaker 4: career but always adjusted to him quickly. And that's pretty important,
Speaker 4: I think, is just the ability to not be scared
Speaker 4: to have a guy that's just a one size he
Speaker 4: can only do one thing rather but just someone who
Speaker 4: is willing to tack along and be asked to do
Speaker 4: multiple things and takes it, you know, with a proper
Speaker 4: mindset and is willing to go out there and do it.
Speaker 4: But the talent is definitely there, and like we said,
Speaker 4: the work ethic, just his background and what he's been through.
Speaker 3: He definitely wants to achieve and be the best player
Speaker 3: that he can.
Speaker 1: He's a former defensive end. How harre his instincts as
Speaker 1: a linebacker, they're good and.
Speaker 4: They got better as he got more into that role
Speaker 4: of playing in the middle of really recognizing and being
Speaker 4: in position, you know, And that's an instinct that a
Speaker 4: lot of people who don't play the game don't truly understand.
Speaker 4: It's not just lined up recognizing what an offense is
Speaker 4: doing and then reacting to its. Certain guys just have
Speaker 4: a better feel than others of where the balls go
Speaker 4: and where people are, how to keep their feet clean,
Speaker 4: how to keep guys staying off of them, And joh
Speaker 4: definitely did improve in that area as he got more comfortable.
Speaker 4: And I think that there's a learning curve anytime that
Speaker 4: you're plugging somebody into a new system or.
Speaker 3: A new team. It's just it takes time.
Speaker 4: But how quickly can you get up that and learn
Speaker 4: your role and do it well and effectively is important.
Speaker 4: Joha definitely showed improvement from year one to year two
Speaker 4: because last year was a transition year was an entirely
Speaker 4: new defense that they were running, going from Nick Saban
Speaker 4: to what the new coaching staff under Killing de Bor
Speaker 4: was asking him to do.
Speaker 3: But he adjusted and stepped into that role and took
Speaker 3: it head off.
Speaker 1: The status of one of the Bengals starting linebackers, Jermaine Pratt,
Speaker 1: is up in the air. He's a possible cap casualty
Speaker 1: he's requested to trade as a result. Is Jahad ready
Speaker 1: to start for a good NFL team on day one?
Speaker 3: That's a great question.
Speaker 4: Is anybody really ready to start both mentally emotionally.
Speaker 3: Physically. I think yes. I think that he fits.
Speaker 4: The mold of what a lot of other NFL defensive
Speaker 4: personnel possess.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a physical guy that can run around.
Speaker 4: I think you're always concerned about the mental aspect of
Speaker 4: it because so much, I mean, that's all y'all do
Speaker 4: at that level is football, and that could be an
Speaker 4: advantage for him though not having the other distractions of
Speaker 4: having to kind of balance life allow in school along
Speaker 4: with football, but just being solely focused on the.
Speaker 3: Football aspect of it.
Speaker 4: He definitely is intelligent enough to be able to step
Speaker 4: into that role. I'm sure that there's always limitations with
Speaker 4: any rookie that you're relying on.
Speaker 3: However, I think that he.
Speaker 4: Does possess a lot of the characteristics that you're looking
Speaker 4: for that make you feel comfortable about plugging him into
Speaker 4: a position like that.
Speaker 1: The other Alabama player being linked to Cincinnati in the
Speaker 1: first round of mock drafts his guard, Tyler Booker. He
Speaker 1: was the left guard for Alabama the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's a big man nearly six five weighs three twenty plus,
Speaker 1: long arms, big hands. Described Tyler Booker, I think.
Speaker 4: Every quarterback who has ever played at any level would
Speaker 4: love to have five dollar Bookers across the front.
Speaker 3: This guy is physical.
Speaker 4: He is an emotional leader, a ton of personality and
Speaker 4: emotion and just energy and he's a fun guy to watch.
Speaker 4: I used to love calling him out on the radio broadcast.
Speaker 4: Who's winning the first five plays?
Speaker 3: He was going to be drive blocking.
Speaker 4: A linebacker, a defensive end, you know, twenty yards down
Speaker 4: the field, and then trying to continue to get that
Speaker 4: pancake block. It's just a ball of energy who approaches
Speaker 4: the game the right way. Incredible locker room, got tons
Speaker 4: of personality.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's what you want in an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: And the fact that he's not lazy, He works hard
Speaker 4: and he wants to improve his every single day. I
Speaker 4: think that every franchise in the league would love to
Speaker 4: have Tyler Booker on the roster.
Speaker 1: Well, you are a former quarterback, so that is a
Speaker 1: rave review. Job Number one in Cincinnati is obviously protecting
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is past protection his strength and were there
Speaker 1: any types of rushers that gave him trouble?
Speaker 4: You know, he really did a nice job on that
Speaker 4: interior line. And of course playing guard is always beneficial.
Speaker 4: You're not as on an island quite as much as
Speaker 4: you are at the tackle positions. But he always did
Speaker 4: a really nice job with the twists and the stunts
Speaker 4: and the games that were played up front of making
Speaker 4: sure that he was protecting the quarterback. We saw very
Speaker 4: few pressures up the middle last season in the backfield
Speaker 4: at Alabama, a lot of pressure came on the edges.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, once again, there's a learning curve
Speaker 4: for every rookie, regardless of what position that you're playing.
Speaker 4: But the more snaps you get under your belt, the
Speaker 4: more experience you have, more times you view all these
Speaker 4: different packages that defenses have, then you definitely have a
Speaker 4: better chance of winning those matchups. But it still comes
Speaker 4: down to personnel and personnel. And he's a physical guy.
Speaker 4: He moves his feet will he's good in space, and
Speaker 4: a lot of those characteristics I know are what makes
Speaker 4: successful offenses at the next level.
Speaker 3: You're always dependent on those guys upfront. Skill.
Speaker 4: Guys always are making the plays, but it's how well
Speaker 4: can you protect and create holes up front that really
Speaker 4: drive your success. And Tyler Booker is good. I mean
Speaker 4: he's good in all the phases. Good in space, good
Speaker 4: in the tackle box, good and run blocking. So he'd
Speaker 4: be a huge kit.
Speaker 1: Tyler Wats is our guest. The Bengals love drafting team captains.
Speaker 1: Tyler was one. Sometimes the best player in the team
Speaker 1: is just automatically named the captain. But based on some
Speaker 1: of the things you said earlier, it sounds like his
Speaker 1: leadership qualities really stood out.
Speaker 4: And that was so important as we transition from coach
Speaker 4: Shaban to coach to Boor and it was a big
Speaker 4: question mark. A lot of guys have the ability to leave,
Speaker 4: but was seniors like Tyler Booker who maintained that locker
Speaker 4: room and kept the guys in check and said, let's
Speaker 4: finish what we started together. And he had even made
Speaker 4: a comment along the way that he had bounced around
Speaker 4: a lot at the high school level, played at multiple programs,
Speaker 4: and even referenced on several occasions that Alabama was the
Speaker 4: longest he had ever stayed in one place, and he
Speaker 4: appreciated that he felt like it was home and he
Speaker 4: wanted everyone else to understand how special of a place
Speaker 4: it was. So just a huge presence in the locker
Speaker 4: room of keeping guys focused and motivated on what their
Speaker 4: main goal was and making sure that he challenged the
Speaker 4: fellows across the ball from him to get better on
Speaker 4: a daily basis.
Speaker 1: If you had to forecast his NFL future, what will
Speaker 1: it look like?
Speaker 4: But with so much of it depends on systems in
Speaker 4: front office and things.
Speaker 3: Of that nature at that level.
Speaker 4: But I know he possesses all the skill set that
Speaker 4: made for successful offensive linemen, and I think that he
Speaker 4: can have a really good career because he's not going
Speaker 4: to You're gonna get it frustrated if things don't go well.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna work harder.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's the first thing that you're
Speaker 4: wanting to look for, is not someone who's looking for
Speaker 4: an easy ride, but a worker who could fight through
Speaker 4: paying fight through challenges, and just continue to try to improve.
Speaker 3: Because he loves the guys that he plays with.
Speaker 1: Fox Sports draft expert Rob rang has the Bengals taking
Speaker 1: Booker in his latest mock, and Campbell was mel Kiper's
Speaker 1: most recent pick. The athletics draft guru Dan Brugler has
Speaker 1: Booker ranked number twenty four overall in his top one
Speaker 1: hundred and Campbell number fourteen. The NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: has Booker number twenty overall and Campbell way up there
Speaker 1: at number nine. Up next, South Carolina safety Nick Emon Worri.
Speaker 1: He's number seventeen on the Brugler list and number fifteen
Speaker 1: on Jeremiah's rankings.
Speaker 2: Here's J. C.
Speaker 1: Sherbert, the co host of the Inside the Gamecock Show.
Speaker 1: Nick Emon Warri ran a four to three eight forty
Speaker 1: at the combine. He brought jumped in insane eleven six
Speaker 1: and he's a big guy six three, two twenty. What's
Speaker 1: an NFL team getting if it drafts Nick Emon Warri?
Speaker 5: Well, I think, like you said, he's the freak. Athleticism
Speaker 5: really jumps out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Cam Chancellor is a player the South Carolina defensive backs coach.
Speaker 5: Tory and Gray coached at Virginia Tech, and he also
Speaker 5: coached Nick at South Carolina and they're very similar types
Speaker 5: of players. You don't find guys like this at safety
Speaker 5: very often, just with the size athleticism combo that Nick possesses.
Speaker 2: But I'll also say this, he's not.
Speaker 5: You know, some guys are really athletic, and you know,
Speaker 5: the football part of it's very average, you know, particularly
Speaker 5: when it comes to with taller safeties sticking their neck
Speaker 5: in and sticking their head in and making tackles.
Speaker 6: And Nick is an elite tackler.
Speaker 5: He gets leverage, he's a hard hitter, he's a willing
Speaker 5: guy to stick his nose in there. A very tough
Speaker 5: football player, you know, almost a throwback in this futuristic
Speaker 5: elite athletes body in that regard. And then his ball
Speaker 5: skills really came home this year with regards to being
Speaker 5: able to break on the ball, to get the man
Speaker 5: coverage and cover a fast receiver, you know, all the
Speaker 5: things you look for in a guy that can create
Speaker 5: turnovers and defend the pass. Nick has and he's learned
Speaker 5: through the years how to use that length that he
Speaker 5: has to his advantage in the past game as well.
Speaker 5: You know, that's part of the development process he went
Speaker 5: through at South Carolina.
Speaker 1: The Bengals love drafting team captains, and Nick was one
Speaker 1: at South Carolina. Describe what you observed in terms of
Speaker 1: his leadership and work ethic.
Speaker 2: He's a guy that.
Speaker 5: Really, you know, set the example for a lot of
Speaker 5: younger players in the program with how he worked at it,
Speaker 5: how he competed every time he got on the field,
Speaker 5: how you know, the toughness that he plays with when
Speaker 5: he's in games. You know, he's not a guy that
Speaker 5: takes plays off, not a guy.
Speaker 3: That's you know, pulls up and you.
Speaker 5: Know, even in games that Carolina would may have lost
Speaker 5: if he's out there on the field competing, he's competing.
Speaker 5: You know, He's not a guy that you know, loafs
Speaker 5: or or anything like that. So that the leadership portion
Speaker 5: of it, you know, is really by example and sets
Speaker 5: the tone with how he plays the game each and
Speaker 5: every snap.
Speaker 1: Do you see him primarily as a center fielder type
Speaker 1: running sideline to sideline or better suited to play closer
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: You know, I think he's a guy that could do both,
Speaker 5: and that's the beauty of him. You know, I mentioned
Speaker 5: he's very good in the box against the run. I
Speaker 5: don't think he's a guy that you look at and
Speaker 5: go linebacker long term. I know, you know, some some
Speaker 5: amateur scouts kind of saw that about him when he
Speaker 5: got to South Carolina, and you know, outside people were, oh,
Speaker 5: he probably a linebacker one day. I don't see that,
Speaker 5: but I definitely think in a nickel position or a
Speaker 5: position that does play close to the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 5: he's more than capable, probably even very good at that.
Speaker 6: But he also can cover, he can get man coverage,
Speaker 6: and he can.
Speaker 5: Be that center field or I think it really depends
Speaker 5: on the scheme and the personnel of the franchise.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The beauty of him.
Speaker 5: Is his versatility, and that sounds strange, you know for
Speaker 5: a safety that's got that kind of freaky athleticism and measurables,
Speaker 5: because a lot of times those guys are either or guys,
Speaker 5: but Nick can do both.
Speaker 6: I just think it kind of depends on how he.
Speaker 5: Fits in with the team, but certainly, you know, I
Speaker 5: think he can thrive in either environment.
Speaker 1: How about that, jac I'm going to wrap this up
Speaker 1: by asking you to peer into the future. What kind
Speaker 1: of role do you think he's ready to play as
Speaker 1: a rookie and what kind of NFL career do you
Speaker 1: anticipate for Nick Eman Warren.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the guys like Nick that love football
Speaker 5: and they compete every play tend to have good in
Speaker 5: a careers if they stay healthy. Of course, the injuries
Speaker 5: are part of the game. As a rookie, I think
Speaker 5: when you're talking about the complexities of an NFL system,
Speaker 5: he did play, you know, a somewhat complicated defense of
Speaker 5: South Carona, but it's always It's not like he came
Speaker 5: out and played for Nick Saban and Alabama, where you
Speaker 5: have a ton of checks and reads and all that
Speaker 5: good stuff, you know, under Clayton White of South Carolina.
Speaker 5: So I would think initially, you know, if I were
Speaker 5: drafting him, depending on who else I have that playing
Speaker 5: closer to the line of scrimmage, because of his size
Speaker 5: and his tackling ability and his willingness to tackle the
Speaker 5: run game, that would probably be the role as a
Speaker 5: freshman or sorry, as a rookie I would start off with.
Speaker 5: But in time, you know, he can do just about anything.
Speaker 1: Ryan Wilson, a draft expert for CBS Sports, has the
Speaker 1: Bengals picking Emon Warre in his latest mock and Bengals
Speaker 1: beat reporter Paul Dayner junior from the Athletic called Emon
Speaker 1: Worri and the previously mentioned Tyler Booker as good first
Speaker 1: round fits in a story he wrote this week. Up next,
Speaker 1: alphabetically Michigan defensive tackle Kenneth Grant, a six', four three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pound moose who played nose tackle and
Speaker 1: three technique for The. Wolverines after Taking Chris jenkins in
Speaker 1: the second round last, year could The bengals take his
Speaker 1: former teammate in the first round this? Year here's FORMER
Speaker 1: nfl offensive Lineman John, jansen the radio analyst On michigan football.
Speaker 1: Broadcasts he's got a lot of.
Speaker 7: Upside he's a guy that could go in there and
Speaker 7: contribute right, away BUT i think his best year are
Speaker 7: going to, be you, know, two, three, four and five
Speaker 7: down the, road because there's still a lot that he
Speaker 7: needs to work.
Speaker 2: On and when he.
Speaker 7: Was making the decision of whether to make that jump
Speaker 7: to THE nfl or to come back for another, year
Speaker 7: that was part Of he's very aware of, that which
Speaker 7: leads you to believe that if he is aware of
Speaker 7: his weaknesses going into THE, nfl.
Speaker 8: He's addressing those.
Speaker 7: Already some of it's pad, level some of it's just
Speaker 7: technique that he's willing to put the time and effort into.
Speaker 7: Doing but you, know he is he's a, monster and
Speaker 7: he's got an unreal athletic ability for, it being as
Speaker 7: big as he. Is AND i know one of the
Speaker 7: highlights that there they'll will show whenever he's taken off
Speaker 7: the board is his ability twenty five yards down the
Speaker 7: field to run down one of The Penn state running.
Speaker 8: Backs he's just he's, big.
Speaker 7: He's, Powerful he's a little bit, Raw but the upside
Speaker 7: is is certainly.
Speaker 1: There he's three hundred thirty. Pounds is it a good
Speaker 1: three thirty or could his weight be a concern going? Forward?
Speaker 2: OH i.
Speaker 7: DON'T i don't see his weight being a. Concern AND
Speaker 7: i mean he's so, young And i've got a you,
Speaker 7: know different perspective now that That i'm you, know no
Speaker 7: longer playing And i've seen guys come and go and
Speaker 7: how they change their bodies being in THE. Nfl if
Speaker 7: he plays his entire career at three, thirty.
Speaker 8: He'll he'll be a beast in the weight room and you,
Speaker 8: know continue to, grow continue to.
Speaker 7: Develop but, yeah he's not a he's not a sloppy
Speaker 7: three thirty.
Speaker 1: The bengals are looking for an interior pass. Rush does
Speaker 1: he consistently push the pocket or is he more of
Speaker 1: a run.
Speaker 6: Stopper?
Speaker 8: Oh, no he can push the.
Speaker 7: Pocket and one of the great things about him, is
Speaker 7: especially if If trey ends, up.
Speaker 8: You, know playing for The bengals next, YEAR i think
Speaker 8: he's a great one two. Punch not only can.
Speaker 7: He push the pocket by swim spin and you, know
Speaker 7: elite get, off he does a great job of working
Speaker 7: with other defensive linemen and setting up twists and whether
Speaker 7: it's et, te he.
Speaker 8: Works really well in that.
Speaker 7: Situation and and so you compare him with a guy
Speaker 7: Like Trey hendrickson and really do some. Damage but if
Speaker 7: he doesn't get home and and he's just relying on brute,
Speaker 7: force he's got such a. Wingspan one of the great
Speaker 7: attributes he gave This michigan team was being able to
Speaker 7: bat balls down so he.
Speaker 8: Can get after the.
Speaker 7: Quarterback if he doesn't get, home he could still affect
Speaker 7: passes and passing lanes by getting some of those big paws.
Speaker 1: Up last, thing what what type of long term future
Speaker 1: do you see For Kenneth.
Speaker 7: OH i think he's a guy that's going to play
Speaker 7: a decade or, longer and he could develop into A
Speaker 7: Pro bowl caliber defensive. Tackle Jim harbaugh when he was
Speaker 7: here mentioned it at the. Time he's you look at,
Speaker 7: him you see, him and you see all the physical.
Speaker 7: Traits he really Is god's gift of. FOOTBALL i, mean
Speaker 7: he could be an elite defender on the. Inside it's
Speaker 7: going to take some time to get, there but that's the.
Speaker 1: Potential Connor, rodgers a draft expert FROM Nbc, sports has
Speaker 1: The bengals Picking, grant whose number twenty five overall according
Speaker 1: To brugler and number thirty according To Jeremiah. Up, next
Speaker 1: edge Defender Mike green From. Marshall here's the voice of
Speaker 1: The Thundering, Herd Steve. Cotton Steve Mike green led THE
Speaker 1: fbs with seventeen sacks this. Year describe what made him
Speaker 1: so dominant for The Thundering Herd.
Speaker 9: Well he played two years At, marshall one in largely
Speaker 9: a backup.
Speaker 2: Role dan came off the pine on.
Speaker 9: Pass rush, situations that kind of, thing and then became
Speaker 9: a star this. Year, Now, marshall his previous year had
Speaker 9: some betteran defensive ends who were among the school's all
Speaker 9: time leaders in several of those categories sacks and whatever,
Speaker 9: included so he had to bide his.
Speaker 2: Time he didn't get.
Speaker 9: Frustrated he knew we all knew that he was an
Speaker 9: unbelievable pass. Rusher you watch him just go through a
Speaker 9: few minutes of pass.
Speaker 6: Rush rills and dan he is lightning.
Speaker 2: Quick that was never a.
Speaker 9: Question as you got into this season and you he
Speaker 9: was going to be called upon to be out there
Speaker 9: for every. Down is he good enough against the run
Speaker 9: to be a superstar kind of.
Speaker 2: Player or what's it going to be like when.
Speaker 9: He's getting the attention and the double team and people
Speaker 9: chipping him all the. Time and he more than stepped
Speaker 9: up for all of. That he had one of the
Speaker 9: most amazing. Years you mentioned number one in the nation
Speaker 9: in sacks and tackles for, loss but maybe if you
Speaker 9: dig a little deeper you notice even. More his tackle
Speaker 9: for loss yards were thirty yards more than number two
Speaker 9: in the. Nation his quarterback sack yards party two more
Speaker 9: than anybody else in the.
Speaker 3: Nation he is a big play.
Speaker 1: Guy that's good. Stuff he lacks ideal. Size he's six,
Speaker 1: three two fifty. One do you see that being at
Speaker 1: least a concern at the next?
Speaker 9: Level it was my concern SOMETHING i wonder. About, now
Speaker 9: it's one, play but he went viral at The Senior
Speaker 9: bowl when he Steamrolled oregon offensive Tackled Josh connery and
Speaker 9: you know three hundred pounder who is showing up in
Speaker 9: the first round in Several mott, drafts and he just
Speaker 9: ran right over him playing with. Him, now that's one,
Speaker 9: play but all year long he was matched up with
Speaker 9: those great big guys and he held his own. Physically
Speaker 9: now he made a lot of hay when they try
Speaker 9: to go one on, one not many did early in the.
Speaker 9: Year if you want to anybody who wants to go
Speaker 9: look just you can do an internet search Of mike
Speaker 9: green sack Versus Ohio, state and you see his ability
Speaker 9: in the open. Field they tried to go one on
Speaker 9: one with him and he went around another, Guy Josh, Fryer.
Speaker 9: Ohio say it's pretty good tackles and got to the.
Speaker 9: QUARTERBACK i don't know that prior much more.
Speaker 2: Than Touchdam and you can also go look if you
Speaker 2: are that.
Speaker 9: Interested at The Virginia tech, Game marshall played at or In,
Speaker 9: blacksburg and he had a couple of sacks in that
Speaker 9: game that really show the motor AND i think this
Speaker 9: was maybe the thing that you come to appreciate watching
Speaker 9: him day in and day. Out they were plays where
Speaker 9: he was double, teamed he got knocked away from the,
Speaker 9: play but then the quarterback starts, scrambling and he never
Speaker 9: gave up on.
Speaker 2: It one he got knocked off his feet still ends
Speaker 2: up making a. Sack so it's. Constant it's the. Motor
Speaker 2: he didn't get frustrated.
Speaker 9: When most of the year he's the guy who's being double,
Speaker 9: teamed and he still came, up like we, said seventeen
Speaker 9: sacks most of.
Speaker 2: The, nation even though he had all that attention focused on.
Speaker 1: Him we're visiting With Marshall, Boys Steve. Cotton mike started Out.
Speaker 1: Virginia he had an assault allegation there that he denied
Speaker 1: at the. Combine he wasn't prosecuted for. It his coaches
Speaker 1: At virginia And marshall apparently give him strong character. Grades
Speaker 1: what did you observe from dealing with him over the
Speaker 1: past two.
Speaker 2: Seasons absolutely no.
Speaker 9: Problems not the first issue at all in dealing with
Speaker 9: him every week this, year he was requested by the,
Speaker 9: media you, know you got a guy who's going to
Speaker 9: be An All american, so and he was the first
Speaker 9: one to arrive for the weekly.
Speaker 2: Interview session during the week after the, game good, game bad,
Speaker 2: game win or.
Speaker 9: Loss he shows, up steps, up and he's a very thoughtful.
Speaker 9: Guy it's not the easy cliche answer With. Mike he
Speaker 9: asked the question and he might pause for a few
Speaker 9: seconds and then he gets you something that's a little
Speaker 9: more than you get.
Speaker 2: Most of the.
Speaker 9: Time and you, know by week, ten, twelve thirteen in
Speaker 9: the season that's getting kind of.
Speaker 2: Old but he was always.
Speaker 9: There with a smile on his face and was a
Speaker 9: top notch guy as far AS i was concerned in
Speaker 9: anything he dealt with on the media side of.
Speaker 1: Things If Trey hendrickson stays with The bengals And Mike
Speaker 1: green is on the opposite side of the defensive, line
Speaker 1: what would you expect for his impact on The bengals pass?
Speaker 9: RUSH i, think and again there's a question the. Size
Speaker 9: is he a first, down second down guy and he
Speaker 9: defended the run very well this, year AND i think
Speaker 9: at the senior bowlt that's where he saw his stock
Speaker 9: rise because Of bill saw what he would do against some.
Speaker 2: Of the best offensive.
Speaker 9: Linemens but when it's third and eight and you need
Speaker 9: a pass. Rush that's a GUY i would like out.
Speaker 2: There you're talking about The.
Speaker 9: Bengals, Dan i'm A michigan Or i'm a Lifelong lions,
Speaker 9: fan and when the season, ENDED i, Thought, WOW i
Speaker 9: wonder if he could drop down to you, know twenty
Speaker 9: eight to thirty where The lions might have a. Chance
Speaker 9: and all of a, sudden there's absolutely no opportunity to
Speaker 9: line him up Opposite Aiden. Hutchinson so maybe you have
Speaker 9: a good opportunity to for the double barrel pass.
Speaker 1: Rush several mock drafters have The bengals taking, green including
Speaker 1: the Athletics Nick. Baumgarter he's number ten on The Buglar
Speaker 1: top one hundred And jeremiah has him at number twenty.
Speaker 1: One up next or, again defensive Tackle Derek. Harmon he's
Speaker 1: number sixteen On Burglar's top one hundred and number twenty
Speaker 1: three On jeremiah's. List Here's Oregon ducks Expert Rob. Moseley.
Speaker 1: Rob according To Pro Football, focus no interior lineman put
Speaker 1: more pressure on the quarterback last year Than Derek harmon
Speaker 1: fifty five, pressures eleven more than any other defensive. Tackle
Speaker 1: Described derek and what makes him a Handful when you.
Speaker 2: Look at production like, THAT i, think and how it came.
Speaker 2: About two words coming to My one is.
Speaker 10: ATHLETICISM i, mean he's just really explosively athletic and so
Speaker 10: really able to get off the ball, quick you, know
Speaker 10: slice through the, line you, know try to be double
Speaker 10: teams that, way or you, know uses a array of
Speaker 10: moves one on one to beat guys.
Speaker 2: Down and the other thing is he's just.
Speaker 10: RELENTLESS i, mean the guy just goes and goes and,
Speaker 10: goes and so you, know you combine those two things
Speaker 10: and it just really made him a tear in the
Speaker 10: middle of the. Line you, know he's just a one
Speaker 10: year guy here obviously At, oregon but, absolutely you, know
Speaker 10: met the, expectations if not exceeded.
Speaker 3: Them for what The ducks are looking for in the
Speaker 3: middle of their line last.
Speaker 1: Year from What i've, read his weight has fluctuated over the.
Speaker 1: Years apparently he was about three hundred and fifty pounds
Speaker 1: at the start of his college. Career have you heard
Speaker 1: anything that would lead you to believe that conditioning might
Speaker 1: be a. CONCERN i have.
Speaker 2: Not you, know, again you KNOW i was only around, him.
Speaker 10: You, know one, year and really that just means a few.
Speaker 10: Months SO i don't really have a great sense for.
Speaker 10: THAT i, mean he is a guy who he's a
Speaker 10: little bit top heavy in his. Build you, know he's
Speaker 10: a guy when he first walked up to, him there's
Speaker 10: a guy with much bigger, bases but it doesn't seem
Speaker 10: to impact him on the field at. All the fact
Speaker 10: that he's you, know he doesn't have maybe quite as
Speaker 10: wide a base as some other.
Speaker 2: Guys, yeah COULD i COULD i.
Speaker 10: See his top half fluctuating a little, bit, sure but
Speaker 10: you know that could depend too on what what kind
Speaker 10: of a role he wants him to play and what
Speaker 10: makes the most sense for the side he plays.
Speaker 1: At from what you've heard and. Observed how is his
Speaker 1: attitude and leadership?
Speaker 2: Qualities, uh definitely from WHAT i could, tell more of
Speaker 2: a quiet reserve.
Speaker 10: GUY i, MEAN i think a lot Of dvinman Interior
Speaker 10: devinment tend to be that way, anyway kind of the
Speaker 10: strength silotypes in my, experience you, Know and again a
Speaker 10: guy who came in just for a. Year this is
Speaker 10: An oregon team that had some established. Leadership particularly you,
Speaker 10: know we had a linebacker Named Jeff bossa who had
Speaker 10: who was a senior last year and is now looking
Speaker 10: to be a prospect. Himself who Was he was really the.
Speaker 10: Voice he was the quarterback of the, defense AND i
Speaker 10: think everybody looked at him to be that. Guy SO i,
Speaker 10: think particularly a one year guy Like Derek, harmon wasn't
Speaker 10: going to come in and be asked or expected to
Speaker 10: really have a major. Voice but you, know a guy
Speaker 10: who just went to work set the tone, again was
Speaker 10: relentless in his work ethic and so you know that
Speaker 10: that can be a leadership quality there as.
Speaker 1: Well it sounded like he missed a few, Tackles was
Speaker 1: that what you? Observed you, know.
Speaker 10: This was an organ team that didn't do a whole
Speaker 10: lot of, That so that didn't really jump out of.
Speaker 10: Me you, KNOW i don't attrack things as closely as, like,
Speaker 10: yeah like a pro football focused so. There you, know
Speaker 10: there might be some data out there that suggests, that
Speaker 10: but you, KNOW i didn't watch this team or this
Speaker 10: player last year and think that was a major glaring.
Speaker 1: Issue final question For Rob moseley from goduts dot. Com
Speaker 1: do you expect him to be a contributor in THE
Speaker 1: nfl right away or would The bengals have to be
Speaker 1: Patient if he is indeed their selection at number.
Speaker 11: Seventeen, overall you, KNOW i just got to think a
Speaker 11: guy that's played as much football as him to this
Speaker 11: point in his career is ready to make that next
Speaker 11: step in a way that.
Speaker 10: Some you, know younger guys who were more you, know projectable.
Speaker 10: Prospects you, know it's all about the fit guy goes
Speaker 10: into and as system he's gonna, play and how he
Speaker 10: fits with the coaching staff and the. Teammates you, know you,
Speaker 10: know those are such huge contributing factors.
Speaker 2: To a question like.
Speaker 10: That BUT i just, think, again with the body of
Speaker 10: work under his belt at this, point he's as close
Speaker 10: to his finish a college, PRODUCT i think as you'd
Speaker 10: probably be able to.
Speaker 1: Find Marcus moser from the thirty third team Dot com
Speaker 1: Has cincinnati Taking. Harmon there's a cornerback who generally isn't
Speaker 1: still on the board at number, seventeen but when he's
Speaker 1: dropped that, far he's been The bengals pick on a
Speaker 1: few Mocks Michigan's Will. Johnson once. Again Here's wolverine's radio
Speaker 1: Analyst John. Jansen John The bengals love drafting defensive players From,
Speaker 1: michigan And Will johnson could be. Next he's big at
Speaker 1: six two one ninety. Four he was the DEFENSIVE mvp
Speaker 1: of The National Championship game a couple of years. Ago
Speaker 1: give us Your scott and report On.
Speaker 7: Will he's got all the physical attributes that you want
Speaker 7: in a shutdown corner and a guy that can't come
Speaker 7: up and support the. Run he's an aggressive style and
Speaker 7: which has that aggressive style.
Speaker 8: Has led to some.
Speaker 7: Injuries so there's a lot that you physically get from,
Speaker 7: him and on the on the mental side of, things
Speaker 7: he is one of the most prepared individuals That i've
Speaker 7: ever been around in regards to just making sure that
Speaker 7: he understands, formations personnel, groups, motions how that affects, him
Speaker 7: what is.
Speaker 8: Coming and you.
Speaker 7: Look at a couple of the pick sixes he had this,
Speaker 7: year it was like he was standing in their. Huddle
Speaker 7: he knew what was. Happening he baided the, quarterbacks and
Speaker 7: he made some. Plays the question is going to be
Speaker 7: how durable is? He and and that's the question that
Speaker 7: really only he can answer or the doctors that that
Speaker 7: that treated him over the past couple of. Years he's
Speaker 7: never played a full season in Ann, arbor but but
Speaker 7: when he's on the, field he is one hundred percent
Speaker 7: a difference.
Speaker 1: Maker how does he compare To Dax hill AND Dj
Speaker 1: turner in terms of his readiness to play right?
Speaker 2: Away? Oh he.
Speaker 8: IS i, mean if.
Speaker 7: He's, healthy you put him on the field and you
Speaker 7: forget about. Him he's a day one. Starter he's got you,
Speaker 7: know he's GOT nfl, speed he's GOT nfl strength and.
Speaker 7: Size he's got the confidence to go in, there and
Speaker 7: a lot of that preparation plays into his. Confidence but
Speaker 7: he's a guy THAT i would expect to be, your you,
Speaker 7: know number one or number two corner as soon as
Speaker 7: that season.
Speaker 1: STARTS i read one scout who said he reminds him
Speaker 1: Of patrick Sir, tan which is legitimate praise considering he
Speaker 1: was THE Nfl Defensive player of The year last. Year
Speaker 1: do you see him being an ELITE nfl corner or
Speaker 1: somebody that you know you can pretty much rely on
Speaker 1: to be one of your top two corners going.
Speaker 3: FORWARD i think you.
Speaker 7: CAN i don't know that you can ever sit there
Speaker 7: and say a kid coming out of college that you can.
Speaker 8: Rely on them to be an elite.
Speaker 7: Corner he's got every tool that you would need to
Speaker 7: be a certain type of, player AND i think the
Speaker 7: one thing that people don't realize with because he is
Speaker 7: a little bit of a longer. Corner when he's, running
Speaker 7: you don't really get a true idea of how fast he.
Speaker 7: Is and when he's on the field a lot of
Speaker 7: times he's one of the fastest, players if not the fastest.
Speaker 7: Players so he can Cover Mandon, man he can be
Speaker 7: a right step per step with all those speedy, receivers
Speaker 7: and if he has a ball in his hands and
Speaker 7: he's in the.
Speaker 8: Open, field no one's going to catch.
Speaker 7: Him SO i do see him as a guy that
Speaker 7: has that certain type of.
Speaker 1: Potential johnson is number eighteen on The Burglar top one
Speaker 1: hundred and number fourteen On Daniel jeremiah's. List another defensive
Speaker 1: tackle that's frequently been mocked to The bengals Is Walter
Speaker 1: nolan from Ole, miss number thirty one on The brugler.
Speaker 1: Line it's been a little higher at number twenty eight For.
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Here's Stephen, willis the host of The lockedown Ole miss.
Speaker 1: Podcast Stephen Walter nolan is six y, four about three hundred.
Speaker 1: Pounds he's coming off a great year at Ole, miss
Speaker 1: where he had six and a half sacks and was
Speaker 1: a Consensus All. American give us your description Of walter
Speaker 1: after watching him play four.
Speaker 6: That's my description Of walter every day in.
Speaker 12: Practice it seems like there would be a video of
Speaker 12: him Basically Reggie, whiting some college offensive lineman off the.
Speaker 12: Field he's got all the mobility and all the intangibles
Speaker 12: that go with defensive, linemen but his strength is what's
Speaker 12: going to make him a lot of money at the next.
Speaker 1: LEVEL i Love Reggie whiting as an. Adjective is his
Speaker 1: motor consistent or does he turn it on and?
Speaker 12: Off he played really hard this. Year he had a
Speaker 12: reputation when he came To Ole miss.
Speaker 9: As somebody that took plays.
Speaker 6: Off he didn't really see.
Speaker 12: That At Old, miss and at times he was completely
Speaker 12: domin it and the other team's offensive line they were
Speaker 12: just limited in what they could, do and that was
Speaker 12: because of That Ole miss defensive line Of Walter nowen
Speaker 12: right next to A Prince leamont Miel and those two
Speaker 12: together kind of were Nice Batman robin.
Speaker 2: Combination but the success that he.
Speaker 6: HADN'T i don't think he took stuff.
Speaker 1: Off The bengals are looking for an interior pass, rush
Speaker 1: would he provide?
Speaker 12: It, yes, absolutely he is somebody that does something every
Speaker 12: time you watch him that is just going to be
Speaker 12: new and jump off the. Page really great player and
Speaker 12: an excellent ambassador for whatever program he's attached. With he
Speaker 12: was a fan favorite In, Oxford mississippi when he was
Speaker 12: there for his.
Speaker 2: Year and at this POINT i can't figure.
Speaker 12: Out why he wasn't more productive as a freshman and
Speaker 12: a sophomore At TEXAS A and m.
Speaker 1: All, Right i'm glad you said that because he's well.
Speaker 1: Traveled he played in three high schools in a couple of.
Speaker 1: Colleges is that a red flag at? All or are
Speaker 1: you hearing any other character type concerns That bengals fan
Speaker 1: should be aware.
Speaker 12: Of bengals fans shouldn't worry about character at all when
Speaker 12: it comes To Walton. Nowen when he went through high,
Speaker 12: school it was at the very beginning of THE nil,
Speaker 12: period and that was just starting in college, football and
Speaker 12: he ended up bouncing around in high schools and all,
Speaker 12: that mainly because colleges were trying to position themselves in his.
Speaker 3: Recruitment and in the.
Speaker 12: End The Olive, Branch mississippi kid came home To, Oxford.
Speaker 12: Mississippi Allive branch is about an hour away From. Oxford
Speaker 12: that last move was more about coming home than anything.
Speaker 12: Else and LIKE i, said he was a fan favorite Around, Oxford.
Speaker 12: Mississippi and when he's, comfortable he's really.
Speaker 1: Good he's three hundred. Pounds any worry about how he'll
Speaker 1: stand up TO nfl power as an interior, Alignment, NO
Speaker 1: i think.
Speaker 12: His strength makes up for his weight a little. Bit
Speaker 12: And i'm sure he's going to put on a little
Speaker 12: bit of. Weight and once he gets into the league
Speaker 12: and gets in that consistent strength program that is kind
Speaker 12: of known for in creating defensive, LINEMEN i think that
Speaker 12: strength until then will be a nice bridge against the.
Speaker 3: Run and he is.
Speaker 12: He's a dancing bear a little. Bit as far as
Speaker 12: his feet going around on the defensive, line pass rush
Speaker 12: is not going to be a.
Speaker 1: Problem Steven willis from The Lockdown Ole miss podcast is our.
Speaker 1: Guest the draft is hard to. Project what kind OF
Speaker 1: nfl career do you Expect walter to have both short
Speaker 1: term and long? Run?
Speaker 12: Listen ole miss has twelve players that have some semblance
Speaker 12: of draft buzz this, Year but if you told me
Speaker 12: one player off of Ole missus roster became the superstar
Speaker 12: in THE nfl in this class Is Walter.
Speaker 1: Nolan early in the mock draft, process it seemed Like
Speaker 1: Walter nolan was frequently going to The bengals In round.
Speaker 1: One that hasn't been the case as much, recently although
Speaker 1: he was the pick in a Recent Pro Football focus.
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Speaker 1: provider of The. Bengals another edge defender is Next James
Speaker 1: pierce From, tennessee number thirty six on The Brugler top
Speaker 1: one hundred and number twenty six according To. Jeremiah Here's Brent,
Speaker 1: hubbs the publisher of one of the top websites For
Speaker 1: tennessee volunteers fans vulquest dot. Com, brent The bengals need
Speaker 1: to improve their pass. Rush James pierce was among the
Speaker 1: best in THE sec had one hundred and seven pressures
Speaker 1: in seventeen and a half sacks over the last couple of.
Speaker 1: Years how would you Describe James.
Speaker 6: PIERCE i think he has the terrific first.
Speaker 13: STEP i think his first step is what makes him.
Speaker 6: Elak just an explosion that he has with his first.
Speaker 13: STEP i think he can still become a.
Speaker 2: Little bit more.
Speaker 13: Bendable he bends pretty, good BUT i think it's his
Speaker 13: first step that helps that out a little. Bit and
Speaker 13: obviously he's got to play the run a little bit.
Speaker 13: Better but in terms of coming in and rushing the,
Speaker 13: passer he can cause, problems create. Pressures he can finish
Speaker 13: a little. Better he did not finish as well as
Speaker 13: past year as he did the previous.
Speaker 6: Year but it's that first step that is the. Player
Speaker 6: is the moment that gets everybody's.
Speaker 1: Attention let me follow up on his ability to defend the.
Speaker 1: Run he's slightly less than two hundred and fifty pounds
Speaker 1: at least that's what he was measured at the. Combine
Speaker 1: is he big enough to play the run or will
Speaker 1: he mostly be a pass rush.
Speaker 4: SPECIALIST i think early in his, Career, dan he's probably
Speaker 4: a pass rush specialist who will continue to grow into
Speaker 4: defending the. Run he defended the run better in twenty
Speaker 4: four than he did in twenty, three SO i think
Speaker 4: he's made improvements there.
Speaker 6: AND i think he can play the.
Speaker 13: Run but he's going to come, in i, think initially
Speaker 13: in this league and in the, league and be a
Speaker 13: pass rush specialist first and, foremost and then it, grows you,
Speaker 13: know potentially out of that with him as he continues
Speaker 13: to learn and grow into. Games so it's, there he's
Speaker 13: physically capable of doing. IT i think it's a little
Speaker 13: bit of understanding and continuing to grow and understanding the
Speaker 13: leverage in the run.
Speaker 4: Game he did a nice job at times this year
Speaker 4: in the run.
Speaker 6: Game james's biggest issue is when he.
Speaker 4: Ever he gets into a, situation he tries to free
Speaker 4: lance a little.
Speaker 13: Bit he can get himself in. Trouble tennessee's also played
Speaker 13: him some in. Space they dropped him into some coverage
Speaker 13: and he can play sideline to sideline, well so he's
Speaker 13: got some versatility to him other than just pinning his
Speaker 13: ears back and forwarding the.
Speaker 1: Quarterback Brent hubbs is our. Guest there are apparently some
Speaker 1: character concerns Where james is. Concerned ONE nfl scout said
Speaker 1: the following he's on his own, program the whole team's working,
Speaker 1: out and he is in his. Apartment what did you
Speaker 1: hear and what did you?
Speaker 8: Observe you, KNOW i did.
Speaker 13: Not hear specifics of him missing a bunch of time
Speaker 13: or missing time with his, team are blowing off his
Speaker 13: team or anything like. That the consistent message you've heard
Speaker 13: From James pier About James peers from day one here
Speaker 13: is That james has to be a better pro and
Speaker 13: that means conducting his business seven days a, week three
Speaker 13: hundred and sixty five days a year as a as
Speaker 13: a pro. Player AND i think there are Times james
Speaker 13: did go a little bit on his own and do
Speaker 13: some things and probably was late for some stuff when
Speaker 13: he didn't need to be late for some, stuff.
Speaker 6: AND i think it was just more of a maturity.
Speaker 13: THING i think That james in THE, nfl it changes
Speaker 13: for everybody because the money's not. Guaranteed he got a
Speaker 13: big nil deal his last year here guaranteed money obviously
Speaker 13: because can't pay for, play so it's not like he
Speaker 13: had to hit incentives or bonuses to do.
Speaker 4: That it changes when it becomes a business in The
Speaker 4: National Football, league AND i Think james's.
Speaker 13: Challenge is going to be to be a pro every.
Speaker 13: DAY i think anybody who Knows james or has dealt
Speaker 13: With james will tell you, that and that's what we'll.
Speaker 13: SEE i think that's the red. Flag it's not that
Speaker 13: it's a criminal. Thing it's not that he is a.
Speaker 6: Big locker room, problem or he fights with his teammates
Speaker 6: or any of those.
Speaker 4: Things it's just he's got to be more mature every
Speaker 4: day as a, professional and that's his.
Speaker 1: Challenge final question For Brad, hubbs if you had to
Speaker 1: predict HIS nfl, future what do you think it's going
Speaker 1: to look.
Speaker 13: LIKE i think That james is if he's in the right,
Speaker 13: situation meaning he's got some veterans around him who can mentor,
Speaker 13: him and he's got a veteran experienced defensive line coach
Speaker 13: and not a younger.
Speaker 6: PLAYER i Think james can be a really.
Speaker 13: Good pass rusher in The National Football league who can
Speaker 13: play multiple. Downs but if he's not in a good
Speaker 13: situation where there's a lot of mentorship for him early,
Speaker 13: on THEN i think you wonder about the maturity level
Speaker 13: and how much of a pro he's going to, be
Speaker 13: and what's the.
Speaker 6: Fight to get him to be that.
Speaker 4: Way, Now i've been around a lot of guys who
Speaker 4: have come through The university Of tennessee WHO i would
Speaker 4: tell you are in a very similar shape than That
Speaker 4: James pierce is from a maturity, standpoint who went on
Speaker 4: to be really, productive really good players in The National Football.
Speaker 6: League out of.
Speaker 14: Respect for, THEM i won't name their, names but there
Speaker 14: are certainly guys WHO i would put in the same
Speaker 14: maturity category As James, pearce who went on to play, eight,
Speaker 14: ten twelve years in.
Speaker 3: The National Football.
Speaker 2: League so is there some risks?
Speaker 13: There probably not a whole lot more than anybody. Else
Speaker 13: but you have to understand going in.
Speaker 4: You're going to have to do some work with him
Speaker 4: from a maturity, standpoint and not just handing the keys and,
Speaker 4: say hey, man you're our edge, guy go get.
Speaker 6: It he's going to have to learn to grow to
Speaker 6: be a pro every, day.
Speaker 4: Because that's What tennessee's been trying to do with him
Speaker 4: since he got To.
Speaker 13: Tennessee he's better now that he was his first year
Speaker 13: or two.
Speaker 6: At, tennessee but there's still another step for.
Speaker 1: Him pierce is another player who seemed to be getting
Speaker 1: mocked to The bengals more frequently a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: than he is. Now he is the most recent projection
Speaker 1: at number seventeen overall By Jason pruitt Of Draft. Plex
Speaker 1: we profiled safety Nick Emon warrri. Earlier there's another safety
Speaker 1: getting a lot Of bengals, Buzz George's Malachi, starks a
Speaker 1: three year starter and a two time first Team All.
Speaker 1: American Former bulldogs QUARTERBACK Dj shockley is part of The
Speaker 1: georgia radio broadcast.
Speaker 15: Crew it starts with who this guy is to come
Speaker 15: in and play In Kirby smart's defense at that safety
Speaker 15: spot that they asked him to play it as a
Speaker 15: true freshman and to put the numbers he.
Speaker 2: Did you mentioned it being a two.
Speaker 15: Time All, american and he is one of the smartest
Speaker 15: guys That i've been around that plays that. Position AND
Speaker 15: i think when you play safety At georgia and you
Speaker 15: play safety For Kirby, smart it adds a little bit
Speaker 15: extra to your plate because of the guy who's.
Speaker 2: Coaching actually played that, position.
Speaker 15: And the guy is probably one of those kind of
Speaker 15: kids that you know as a, father you, LIKE i
Speaker 15: hope my daughter gets a chance to date this guy
Speaker 15: BECAUSE i know who he.
Speaker 2: Is and what he's. About that's kind of person you
Speaker 2: like in character you get from A malachi starts and
Speaker 2: then you talk about what he can do on the.
Speaker 2: FIELD i think this guy's the.
Speaker 15: LIMIT i think he probably played every position besides nose
Speaker 15: tackle on His georgia. Defense he was you, know, rushing
Speaker 15: he was you, know a, linebacker he played their star,
Speaker 15: position he.
Speaker 2: Played the deep. Hole he did a little bit of
Speaker 2: every day for.
Speaker 15: Him AND i think that versatility is what makes him
Speaker 15: so special is you.
Speaker 2: Can put him. Anywhere he can cover.
Speaker 15: People he's got great ball skills and the guy understands the,
Speaker 15: game can cover the can cover as good as. Anybody
Speaker 15: but also if he's in that deep, third, uh he's
Speaker 15: got really great. Range so this guy has everything you
Speaker 15: want from a prototypical.
Speaker 2: Safety BUT i think the biggest thing is this guy's a.
Speaker 15: Leader he brings everybody with him and he wants the
Speaker 15: best for everybody around, him and he will always push
Speaker 15: the guys around.
Speaker 1: Him you've played, quarterbacks so you can recognize the safety
Speaker 1: that can diagnose offenses and understand what they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Do how Is malachai in that.
Speaker 15: Area, yeah that's a great point BECAUSE i think that's
Speaker 15: what you have to do in the next.
Speaker 2: Level you better have have some kind of recognition of
Speaker 2: what's to.
Speaker 15: Come and this is a guy Who i've sat down
Speaker 15: with the defensive quarter of The Glenn shoeman At Jordan
Speaker 15: ford and we went through certain. Days he, says Watch malakai.
Speaker 15: Here you can see him point our. Stuff you can
Speaker 15: see him get guys in. Place you can see him
Speaker 15: point out different formations and where the motion's coming.
Speaker 2: From and what's coming out of. It and just talking with, him.
Speaker 15: You understand he speaks the language first, off but then
Speaker 15: he understands what the offices are trying to.
Speaker 2: Do AND i.
Speaker 15: Think a lot of people you, know go back to high.
Speaker 15: School when this guy played, quarterback gots played. Everything so
Speaker 15: that tells you he's smart enough that he knows what
Speaker 15: officer are trying to. Do but he played a, position
Speaker 15: but he also played on that, side so it gives
Speaker 15: him a little bit of an advantage once he plays
Speaker 15: that safety.
Speaker 2: Spot so he's excited to.
Speaker 15: Watch he's one of those guys THAT i think will
Speaker 15: be really smart with able to diagnose.
Speaker 2: It to recognized and then.
Speaker 15: Be able to have that reaction to go get it
Speaker 15: and that's what makes HIM i think special.
Speaker 1: Too do you think he's ready to start as a
Speaker 1: rookie or would he be better off at least beginning
Speaker 1: in nickel and dime packages and learning from.
Speaker 3: Vets now Got.
Speaker 2: Starts is a day one.
Speaker 15: Starter this guy has the, tools he has the warrif
Speaker 15: all to come. In he's gonna come in day one
Speaker 15: and he's probably gonna be the first one, in the
Speaker 15: last one, out and he wants to be a. Sponge
Speaker 15: he will learn from everybody around. Him he will ask
Speaker 15: questions the lore AND i think this guy day one
Speaker 15: will be a starter for whoever he ends up going
Speaker 15: to simply because of that. Feature now he has all
Speaker 15: the flayers in the, world but he also has it,
Speaker 15: upstairs AND i think that's what's really going to get
Speaker 15: him on the field really, quickly is his ability to.
Speaker 2: Learn defenses and play at a high.
Speaker 15: Level SO i Speak Malacho starks day one of THE
Speaker 15: nfl season to be in the.
Speaker 1: Lineup walterfootball Dot com And Nick wright From Fox sports
Speaker 1: both have The bengals Taking starks in their most recent mock.
Speaker 1: Drafts starts is number nineteen on The briggler list and
Speaker 1: number twenty Nine according To, jeremiah there are three players,
Speaker 1: left and next on the list is a guy who
Speaker 1: stole the show at THE Nfl combine this, Year TEXAS
Speaker 1: a and M, Edge Shamar. STEWART i caught up with
Speaker 1: the voice of The, Aggies Andrew. Monaco Andrew shamar is six,
Speaker 1: five two. Seventy he ran a four five ninety at The.
Speaker 1: Combine he did a four the inch vertical. Leap how
Speaker 1: would you Describe Shamar stewart's raw?
Speaker 2: Talent?
Speaker 16: Freakish, Right that's the word that we keep, hearing don't
Speaker 16: we dan freakish For Schamar, stewart AND i just you,
Speaker 16: KNOW i couldn't be happier for. Him he wasn't happy
Speaker 16: with his season a couple of seasons, ago and he
Speaker 16: really dedicated himself to not just the talent of what
Speaker 16: he was going to do next, level but to help the.
Speaker 2: Team and this Guy.
Speaker 16: Mike elko had brought in Before mike goes To duke
Speaker 16: and then comes back To TEXAS.
Speaker 2: A and m knows all about. Him he absolutely rewarded
Speaker 2: him for. That i'm excited.
Speaker 16: About what's next For Schamar. Stewart he did everything that
Speaker 16: he could possibly do At TEXAS. A AND. M AND
Speaker 16: i don't want to say play out of, position but
Speaker 16: he got.
Speaker 2: The chance to play inside and.
Speaker 16: OUTSIDE i think kind of understand what his teammates are
Speaker 16: doing and how they all work in concert up. Front
Speaker 16: But i'm really excited About Schamar stewart in THE. NFL
Speaker 16: i REALLY i think he's going to be very similar
Speaker 16: To Eddrian cooper At Green, bay Where edrin blossomed very
Speaker 16: late At TEXAS a AND, m and then when it
Speaker 16: all clicked for, him he's just taken off on the next.
Speaker 1: Level so the question mark is obviously the. Production it
Speaker 1: did not match the, potential at least in terms of.
Speaker 1: Sacks he had one and a half in each of
Speaker 1: his three. Seasons why do you think that was the.
Speaker 2: CASE i think there's a combination of a couple of.
Speaker 16: THINGS i think there are some mistackles which he can
Speaker 16: always work on and clean up a little, bit and you,
Speaker 16: know once you wrap.
Speaker 2: Up you've got to take.
Speaker 16: Down but he is Disruptive dan to tell you the,
Speaker 16: truth And Mike oko has talked about. This he has
Speaker 16: been the defensive coordinator and head coach of some teams
Speaker 16: that they had a lot of, sacks but they didn't
Speaker 16: have the disruption or get a quarterback out of. Rhythm
Speaker 16: so you leave the game, going, wow we had six sacks,
Speaker 16: yet but we just didn't do what we wanted to
Speaker 16: do on. DEFENSE i Think shamar now gives you that.
Speaker 16: DISRUPTION i think he's A those tackles for, loss those
Speaker 16: quarterback hurries.
Speaker 2: Can be just as important.
Speaker 16: As the sacks team, wise individual, Wise you're exactly.
Speaker 2: Right the numbers aren't. There BUT i think what he
Speaker 2: does with that front, four what.
Speaker 16: He does on his, own the way he learned to fight,
Speaker 16: through there'd be a little more attention to him as
Speaker 16: he got better and better and still put up those
Speaker 16: hurries and put up those. TFLs that's WHERE i think
Speaker 16: he kind of matured a little bit and saw how he.
Speaker 2: Could affect that.
Speaker 16: Game, no the sacks are, DOWN i agree with, that
Speaker 16: and there were some mistackles for, him BUT i think,
Speaker 16: OVERALL i think he can be a disruptive end for.
Speaker 1: Sure i've read that his nickname was or is the
Speaker 1: menace for how hard he. Plays how would you describe
Speaker 1: the motor.
Speaker 2: Always?
Speaker 9: Running AND i think he had to learn that a little.
Speaker 16: Bit dan in fairness coming out Of South florida and
Speaker 16: so highly. Thought but when he comes onto the, campus
Speaker 16: he's working With Elijah robinson who's now.
Speaker 6: The defensive coordinator At Series use.
Speaker 16: And FORMER d lineman and a player here and a
Speaker 16: great one In Terry price who passed, away and there
Speaker 16: was that closeness And Terry price was always on, them
Speaker 16: like you would be out on that field and all
Speaker 16: of a sudden you would Hear terry's gruff, voice Where
Speaker 16: elijah was very much, hey this is what you can.
Speaker 16: DO i Thought elijah was always very positive and it
Speaker 16: was going to Take shamar a little.
Speaker 2: Bit he got to watch guys like come through.
Speaker 9: The program like recently for, Him.
Speaker 16: Bobby, Brown Justin, madabik those, guys and that's WHAT i
Speaker 16: think he aimed. For and then working in concerts with
Speaker 16: HIS d, lineman With Shamar, turner With Nick, gordon With
Speaker 16: cash As how AND i love what he did with
Speaker 16: the young. Guys and because Of chamar being the menace
Speaker 16: and going all out all the time and competing every
Speaker 16: day in, PRACTICE i think that's going to be some
Speaker 16: of the residue with guys LIKE Dj hicks who's, here
Speaker 16: And Rylan kennedy And Solomon.
Speaker 2: Williams that's gonna Rub. OFF i don't Think.
Speaker 16: Shamar stewart was doing that when he first got. HERE
Speaker 16: i think he learned that once he stepped off that,
Speaker 16: field that it's how you. Compete monday Through friday is
Speaker 16: going to tell you how successful you're going to be
Speaker 16: on A.
Speaker 1: Saturday how is he versus the run getting better getting better?
Speaker 16: AGAIN i Think, DAN i think that's where what he
Speaker 16: had to learn that you, know when you're in high,
Speaker 16: school you're.
Speaker 2: Just more athletic than everybody.
Speaker 16: Else guess, What you're not as athletic as everyone when
Speaker 16: you first come into THE. Sec this is WHAT i
Speaker 16: love About Shamar stewart IS i think he can go
Speaker 16: sideline the sideline and there are many times that you
Speaker 16: would see him track someone. DOWN i know it's not
Speaker 16: against the, run and again it's the wrapping up ability
Speaker 16: that's that's that's going to be that next step for.
Speaker 16: Him and also knowing what lanes and camp freelance at,
Speaker 16: times AND i think he's going to learn to be
Speaker 16: more of a pass rusher Where Nick gorton has that
Speaker 16: when he came in From.
Speaker 9: Purdue but the one play that sticks.
Speaker 16: Out to me About shamarsh And Mike elko talks about
Speaker 16: in any big, play whether it's a running back on
Speaker 16: in for a touchdown or this was an interception At,
Speaker 16: florida he talks about the men of the. Ten, Well
Speaker 16: Bryce anderson gets the, interception but of the men of the,
Speaker 16: ten his leading blocker going into the end zone With
Speaker 16: Shimar stuart from his defensive line, position he outran everybody
Speaker 16: to make sure he That Bryce anderson was part of that.
Speaker 2: CONVOY i love that. SPEED i think he's got that strength.
Speaker 16: Now utilizing it all, together And i'm excited about what
Speaker 16: he has learned here at AN m but what he's
Speaker 16: going to learn as well with some technique next level
Speaker 16: can really make him.
Speaker 1: Effective, andrew here's my final. Question the last defensive end
Speaker 1: that The bengals selected in the first round Was Miles
Speaker 1: murphy out Of clemson a couple of years. Ago he
Speaker 1: hasn't contributed that much so. Far The bengals are hopeful
Speaker 1: that this will be a breakout year for. Him do
Speaker 1: you View schamar as A day one contributor or will
Speaker 1: it require some?
Speaker 2: Patients, yea and.
Speaker 16: It might require a little bit of, Patience but that's
Speaker 16: always hard if you're going to select a first, rounder
Speaker 16: right they have to be.
Speaker 2: THERE i Think Shamar, STEWART.
Speaker 16: I think once he, LEARNS i think he can.
Speaker 2: Contribute.
Speaker 16: Now he was part of That CLEMSON d line that was, outstanding,
Speaker 16: right like everybody went into THE nfl that was great and.
Speaker 2: A way to work in.
Speaker 16: CONJUNCTION i feel the same way About Shamar stewart working
Speaker 16: with HIS d line and how he didn't have to
Speaker 16: get worn down and be. FRESH i think he's so
Speaker 16: excited for his. FUTURE i think he's realizing that there's
Speaker 16: still some stuff.
Speaker 2: UNTAPPED i would certainly. Hope, look you never want to
Speaker 2: say he's A.
Speaker 16: Miles garrett, type Because miles the finished, product that's what we're.
Speaker 16: Seeing but When miles was At TEXAS a and m
Speaker 16: even he had to learn some, Things Von miller had
Speaker 16: to learn some things and then they. BLOSSOMED i certainly
Speaker 16: hope that's the same trajectory For Shamar.
Speaker 1: Stewart shamar is way up at number nine On Brugler's
Speaker 1: top one, hundred and he's number twenty seven on The Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: List he was The bengals pick in A Sports illustrated
Speaker 1: mock this. Week another edge defender is. Next Mikel williams
Speaker 1: out Of, georgia number twenty one On brugler's, list number
Speaker 1: twenty two according To Jeremiah once, again Here's bulldog's, BROADCASTER
Speaker 1: Dj SHOCKLEY. Dj Mikel williams is six' five two. Sixty
Speaker 1: plus he doesn't turn twenty one until. Next month he
Speaker 1: tested well at his. Pro day he had good but
Speaker 1: not exceptional stats. In college give us your scouting Report. On,
Speaker 1: mikel well here's the Thing.
Speaker 15: About mikeyah, first off you have to start up with.
Speaker 15: THE person i think that wasn't matters more than anything
Speaker 15: is the type of person he's going, to get the
Speaker 15: character he's going to bring to.
Speaker 2: Any organization he's a stand. Up guy i've known him
Speaker 2: since he walked through the doors as.
Speaker 15: A Freshman at Universe from georgia and have high expectations
Speaker 15: coming in and this guy lived.
Speaker 2: Up TOO and, i think you look at. The sign
Speaker 2: he is what, People.
Speaker 15: Say hey you want those kind of guys to get off.
Speaker 2: The bus they look good when they get off, the
Speaker 2: bus they look good in. The uniform but more, than
Speaker 2: that this guy gives you everything.
Speaker 15: He's got his, last year this past season wasn't his,
Speaker 15: best YEAR but i saw this guy fight.
Speaker 2: Through some MAJOR injuries i. Saw him, you.
Speaker 15: Know there could have been times where, he said you,
Speaker 15: KNOW what, I know i'm gonna be a high. DRAFT
Speaker 15: pick i can just sit this out and try to.
Speaker 15: Get healthy but he made a point to be.
Speaker 2: Out there with.
Speaker 15: His teammates but he also wanted to show the next
Speaker 15: LEVEL that i know it's gonna get a.
Speaker 2: Long season you gotta fight, through injuries and he.
Speaker 15: Did that he's a high, motor guy a guy who's
Speaker 15: good leen coming around. The edge they lined him up
Speaker 15: in multiple places At the University of georgia from inside to,
Speaker 15: the outside and.
Speaker 2: Would give me the opportunity to go one.
Speaker 15: ON one i think he's gonna be one of those
Speaker 15: guys that you look up later in, the, two three
Speaker 15: four years, and, say hey this guy's a double diggy
Speaker 15: sat guy SIMILAR to I Could, trayvon walker who didn't
Speaker 15: have a lot of big numbers coming Out, of georgia
Speaker 15: end up being a number, one pick but.
Speaker 2: End up, you know having a pretty good career. To
Speaker 2: start so he's.
Speaker 15: Gonna be one of those guys you'll love in the.
Speaker 15: Locker room but also it's gonna be a guy that
Speaker 15: shows up every day ready to work and will have
Speaker 15: the production if given.
Speaker 1: THE opportunity i noted that he's, Only twenty he's one
Speaker 1: of the younger guys in this. Draft class how much
Speaker 1: room is there, for growth both physically and in terms
Speaker 1: of learning.
Speaker 15: The, GAME yeah i still think there's tons. OF growth
Speaker 15: i think he's. STILL learning i think he's still learning
Speaker 15: how to use. His body like, you said he's only
Speaker 15: twenty and he's gonna be coming to this league where
Speaker 15: he's gonna be to learn a lot of. Different things
Speaker 15: he's gonna face a lot of. Different TACKLES but i
Speaker 15: think Development at georgia would be a. For, him obviously
Speaker 15: he didn't have to be the quote unquote ideal guy
Speaker 15: every single game he. Went OUT and i think that's
Speaker 15: what makes these guys so good who played On The
Speaker 15: kerby Schmart And, glenn schuman is, you know they, ask for,
Speaker 15: you know, high production but they don't ask you to
Speaker 15: have to do everything because they put these guys in
Speaker 15: so many. Different positions they play so, many guys and
Speaker 15: they want everybody to play at a. High LEVEL but
Speaker 15: i do believe this guy hasn't even reached the pinnacle
Speaker 15: of where he.
Speaker 2: Can't go he got some INJURIES like.
Speaker 15: I mentioned the last, few YEARS and i know that's
Speaker 15: a big part of it. As well but if this guy,
Speaker 15: is healthy you better look out because he will have
Speaker 15: one of THOSE phenomenal i think careers down the low
Speaker 15: to look at a guy who can look the part
Speaker 15: but also play the part.
Speaker 1: As Well the bengals often talk about trying to find
Speaker 1: guys that love the game and love? The grind does
Speaker 1: that describe mikel through?
Speaker 15: And THROUGH and, i think, YOU know i go back
Speaker 15: to you know where he's coming from and the guy that's,
Speaker 15: coached him and if you don't love, the game you're
Speaker 15: not gonna make it At the University, of Georgia And
Speaker 15: kirby smart is one of the mostly intense Guys that i've.
Speaker 15: Been around he actually coached me my, you know my
Speaker 15: Senior year georgia actually coach. Running backs and then obviously
Speaker 15: you know what he's done throughout his. Career now but
Speaker 15: you ask any guy who comes from that university that
Speaker 15: has practice For, coach smart you know exactly what. It's
Speaker 15: like and this guy gets everything out. Of you he
Speaker 15: push you to the limited in and you look up
Speaker 15: and across from you there as another five.
Speaker 2: Star guy so each and. Every day you compete against,
Speaker 2: the best and you're gonna.
Speaker 15: Get pushed and that's one Thing That kurby schmark doesn't
Speaker 15: care where you're, you know come in ranked that no
Speaker 15: matter you know how much, You play he's gonna push
Speaker 15: you to the limit to get the most out. Of
Speaker 15: YOU and i think that helps these guys once they
Speaker 15: go TO the nfl because they have already seen what it's,
Speaker 15: like to, you know be coach at a.
Speaker 2: High level but also play at a high level and
Speaker 2: be coached in the.
Speaker 15: Same way so the intensity that is, in practice the
Speaker 15: intensity that they bring in, THE game i think only
Speaker 15: you know creates the player you get once you get
Speaker 15: To The National.
Speaker 1: Football league last Thing about mike kel is he ready
Speaker 1: to play a big role right away or will a
Speaker 1: little patience?
Speaker 15: BE required i think a little patience who will be
Speaker 15: REQUIRED because i think he's going to be healthy, coming
Speaker 15: off but he's still got to learn. This game and
Speaker 15: as athletic and as talented, it is we Know That
Speaker 15: National football league is a little different of a beast
Speaker 15: and you got to figure out, the speed you got
Speaker 15: to figure out all the, different moves you got to,
Speaker 15: figure out, you know what offense are trying to do,
Speaker 15: to you and guys are just that much more talented
Speaker 15: now planning sec planning against some of the top players in.
Speaker 2: The country that.
Speaker 15: Will HELP but i still think that jumped To The National,
Speaker 15: football league you need a little, time to, you know
Speaker 15: get yourself ready. To GO but i think once he frees,
Speaker 15: it out he's a guy that's a.
Speaker 2: Quick learner he did It. AT georgia i think he.
Speaker 15: Do say In The National, FOOTBALL league, I mean i
Speaker 15: don't expect him come in and, you know gets full
Speaker 15: five secs in the, first GAME but i do expect
Speaker 15: him to have an impact and by in that, rookie
Speaker 15: season expects him to have, a huge, you know impact
Speaker 15: on whatever team he ends up.
Speaker 1: Being On pete CHRISCO From cbs sports is AMONG the
Speaker 1: nfl experts who Has the bengals Taking mikel williams, twelve
Speaker 1: down one. To go our, final player alphabetically is Offensive
Speaker 1: Lineman gray Zabel From North. Dakota, state ironically if he's
Speaker 1: picked By, the bengals he could be in line to
Speaker 1: replace his former College Teammate. Cordell vohlson Here's the bison's,
Speaker 1: Radio Voice, sam niederman just back From The white house
Speaker 1: after the team was honored for winning IT'S Tenth fcs.
Speaker 1: National Championship sam gray's abel started at every offensive line
Speaker 1: spot but center during his five Years At North. Dakota
Speaker 1: state he Was Consensus all american, last year and he
Speaker 1: apparently had a great week At The. Senior bowl what
Speaker 1: stood out to you about him as a person and
Speaker 1: from watching?
Speaker 2: Him, Play, yeah dan thanks for.
Speaker 17: Having me i'm excited to Talk about gray here and
Speaker 17: let some Of the bengals fans who might be curious
Speaker 17: know about somebody who's an absolute gem of a person
Speaker 17: and he's going to be a Great pro what.
Speaker 2: Stood out to me.
Speaker 17: Probably became most Apparent in december of twenty, twenty Three
Speaker 17: when gray decided he was going to STAY at ndsu
Speaker 17: despite getting a bunch of nil attention and offers from
Speaker 17: big power schools at the fbist level of. College, FOOTBALL well,
Speaker 17: i mean he was coming off of a really strong,
Speaker 17: junior season had played both guard and tackle and was
Speaker 17: actually snubbed in, my Opinion for all conference honors In
Speaker 17: The Missouri Valley football Conference Where North dakota, state plays
Speaker 17: and was really kind of under the radar from an,
Speaker 17: accolade standpoint but was definitely on the radar of.
Speaker 3: Some big suitors AT the. Fbs level he.
Speaker 17: Turned away big money and decided to come back for a.
Speaker 17: Senior year he wanted to play with his, younger Brother
Speaker 17: jet zabel was at tight End For North dakota state
Speaker 17: and was a freshman last Season when gray was a fifth.
Speaker 2: Year senior so when.
Speaker 17: He decided, to stay the loyalty stood out and he
Speaker 17: immediately endeared Himself To, bison nation our fans out here
Speaker 17: for just the willingness to buck, the, TREND right, i
Speaker 17: mean at this day and age of the transfer, portal
Speaker 17: nil especially in, college football the grass is usually greener,
Speaker 17: for most but it Wasn't for, gray's abele and he decided.
Speaker 17: To stay be advising and absolutely rocket as you just
Speaker 17: Outline Consensus.
Speaker 3: First Team all AMERICAN leads.
Speaker 17: Ndsu to ITS tenth fcs national championship in the last.
Speaker 17: Fourteen years was a left tackle and the anchor for the.
Speaker 17: OFFENSIVE line. A leader, I mean i'd say loyalty and
Speaker 17: leadership stand out the most when you're Talking About gray's
Speaker 17: abel for staying Here At North dakota state and just.
Speaker 3: His personality he held.
Speaker 17: Guys accountable he mentored along some younger offensive linemen this
Speaker 17: past year who are first. Year starters first guy to
Speaker 17: help up a quarterback after, a run first guy to
Speaker 17: be out there pushing the pile.
Speaker 3: For a running back after he's.
Speaker 17: Already downfield just the intangible qualities that you would want
Speaker 17: in an offensive lineman to help build around for. A
Speaker 17: franchise that's what stands out.
Speaker 1: To Me dan sammy's, six' six, so he's tall but
Speaker 1: he's not mammoth in. Terms of width he's listed at
Speaker 1: three hundred. And twelve pounds are there any concerns about
Speaker 1: his ability TO anchor? Against, NFL power.
Speaker 2: Yeah i think that would be. INTERESTING to watch i think.
Speaker 17: His versatility is the, calling card right especially during this
Speaker 17: draft cycle in the last. COUPLE of, months i mean
Speaker 17: he goes down to mobile and absolutely.
Speaker 3: Tears it Up At, the senior bowls some people.
Speaker 17: Said it was one of the best practice weeks they've
Speaker 17: seen from. An offensive Lineman At the senior Bowl He
Speaker 17: wins practice Player, of the week takes reps at every
Speaker 17: single offensive line position we, know, about center right He
Speaker 17: Played both garden TAPLE. Spots at ndsu CENTER is where
Speaker 17: i think A lot of nfl scouts feel, like he
Speaker 17: projects and certainly on the, interior in general as far
Speaker 17: as the width and being, ABLE to anchor i know
Speaker 17: he'd be able to adjust as. TIME goes on i think,
Speaker 17: he's a coachable versatile type of prospect that has taken
Speaker 17: to learning all five. Offensive line, spots you know the
Speaker 17: Cross TRAINING for india u offensive lineman Is tremendous ndsu
Speaker 17: as far as the, offensive line pedigree it goes back
Speaker 17: all The Way, to billy turner who is Selected by
Speaker 17: the dolphins in the third round back. In Twenty fourteen
Speaker 17: joe haig was, a veteran lineman Was With the indianapolis
Speaker 17: colts for a while and Then Here recently dylan raidents in. Twenty,
Speaker 17: Twenty one obviously bengals fans Are Familiar with cordell volson
Speaker 17: fourth round selection in, twenty twenty Two and then cody
Speaker 17: Malk Where The tampa bay buccaneers was picked in the
Speaker 17: second round. Twenty Twenty three so gray's kind of the next,
Speaker 17: iteration OF them and I would say dan he's the
Speaker 17: top prospect out of all of them in, terms of
Speaker 17: projections the technical things as far AS, TRANSLATED the nfl
Speaker 17: i think that will be something curious to watch once
Speaker 17: he finds.
Speaker 3: His landing spot.
Speaker 1: Job one in Cincinnati Is protecting joe burrow obviously. Is his, Strength,
Speaker 1: PASS protection yeah i thought he.
Speaker 17: Was terrific, at left tackle protecting The Blindside, for cam
Speaker 17: miller the NDS'S quarterback who i think will have a
Speaker 17: chance to go in the late rounds if NOT get
Speaker 17: a udfa opportunity with the TEAM In the, Nfl pass
Speaker 17: protext i'd.
Speaker 2: Say was definitely a. PLUS this year I really like
Speaker 2: gray in the run, block.
Speaker 17: GAME though, too i mean you want to talk about a,
Speaker 17: guy who's physical guy who's the hammer. Not the nail
Speaker 17: THAT'S something that i think stands out right away when.
Speaker 17: YOU watch him i mentioned earlier he'll always push the
Speaker 17: pile on. A blockdown field he's A guy that i
Speaker 17: think can really pave on, That interior too so.
Speaker 2: BOTH are standout i think he really.
Speaker 17: Jumped off the Page two to Bison Head, coach tim
Speaker 17: polisek who has coached some of the league's best offensive
Speaker 17: lineman going back to His tenure at iowa when He
Speaker 17: Was a hawk guys. Offensive line Coach He, coached tristan
Speaker 17: wurs who just happens to be the highest Paid In
Speaker 17: The national football League. With the Buccaneers Also Coached tyler Lindon.
Speaker 17: Brams with baltimore THEY'RE in The afc norths so this
Speaker 17: is a guy who's Been the next buison To play
Speaker 17: On Sundays of coach paulisek made mention of that at
Speaker 17: this time last year when we're getting ready for, our
Speaker 17: spring game and it was obviously evident in. His Senior
Speaker 17: year so i'd say both they run the run blocking
Speaker 17: game and his past.
Speaker 2: Pro are excellent i'd give a slight edge to. The.
Speaker 1: Run game sam here's. My Final question kevin zeitler is
Speaker 1: the Only guard the bengals have ever drafted in the
Speaker 1: first round. In their history so If they take gray in,
Speaker 1: the first round they are expecting him To be a.
Speaker 1: Day one starter do you see him as a Plug
Speaker 1: and play day one STARTER In The, afc north, Oh.
Speaker 17: Without, Question, WITHOUT question dad i think it would, be
Speaker 17: pretty historic Obviously from a bengals perspective And From A north. Dakota,
Speaker 17: STATE perspective, right i mean you're talking about a program
Speaker 17: that has produced multiple draft picks and it's good vision one.
Speaker 2: Era and most notably at the.
Speaker 17: Quarterback position with first Round Picks and Carson Wentz and
Speaker 17: trey lance going to, the. Top five respectively but it's
Speaker 17: never been done by a non quarterback, for this program
Speaker 17: and it's never.
Speaker 2: Been done by an.
Speaker 17: OFFENSIVE lineman Yet i think gray's abel is that guy
Speaker 17: to break through and Become the third day ONE pick,
Speaker 17: in ndsu.
Speaker 2: History and To be a, day one starter and to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: Potentially IN The.
Speaker 17: Rugged afc north, As, You know dan he's absolutely cut.
Speaker 3: Out for.
Speaker 17: It HIS intangibles like i said in, your first question
Speaker 17: that's the first thing that stands. OUT his, personality i
Speaker 17: mean we were Just At the white house this week
Speaker 17: and seeing Him meet the president and smile. AND his
Speaker 17: wit i think that's stuff that translates into. The locker,
Speaker 17: room his. MATURITY his leadership i think the technical stuff
Speaker 17: that needs to be.
Speaker 2: Developed will be. Developed and coached but he is ready.
Speaker 17: AND he is i think he's going to be a
Speaker 17: plug and play player No matter.
Speaker 1: Where ian's up gray was recently Mocked to the Bengals By.
Speaker 1: ESPN's field yates he's number thirty Two On the brugler
Speaker 1: top one hundred and number Twenty four. On jeremiah's rankings
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