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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
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Speaker 1: don't know. My headphone's just cut off. I don't know
Speaker 1: where anyways, Hi, guys, welcome, I'm hosting today. That was weird?
Speaker 1: What is going on? I was weird? All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. Then, welcome guys. Derek is here. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be joining us as a special guest today. And hey,
Speaker 1: are you happy? Are you having a good day? Great?
Speaker 1: Smile Dave? How about you? I'm fantastic, sick. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It freaked me out too, For whatever that's worth. That
Speaker 1: was every day, Like I think every day we can
Speaker 1: start all the time, every show, I think both you guys,
Speaker 1: like at the beginning of every show, we just want
Speaker 1: to see you smile? Right, I smile all the time?
Speaker 1: I do. We need to get there, we go, But
Speaker 1: that's not all the time. I smile all the time.
Speaker 1: And Nick, I don't know, like he's got that frown
Speaker 1: right now, Like this team's owing two in the preseason,
Speaker 1: what's there to smile about? Okay unless you unless you
Speaker 1: got red news about Earle? What are we even talking
Speaker 1: about the regular season? And we get to like, oh
Speaker 1: and three, zero and four, then I get it, we'll
Speaker 1: all be in here frown. I was joking. But this
Speaker 1: team's two and oh in the first time you go,
Speaker 1: and it's small about it. All right, we're gonna jump
Speaker 1: into some musy music stuff. First, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the things that happened yesterday a little bit, and then
Speaker 1: I wanted to try to answer as many questions as
Speaker 1: we can, as far as people sending those questions on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Cowboys Break or you can call us at
Speaker 1: um can't can count. I can tell us the number
Speaker 1: words the number eight eight five five to two ninety seven. Again,
Speaker 1: that's eight eight eight eight five five to two nine seven. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: there you go. So you call us and I'm doing
Speaker 1: this or trying to do this just because we keep
Speaker 1: talking about the same thing over and over and that
Speaker 1: is creepy that is creepy. It's weird. I'm not used
Speaker 1: to that. That's the Garrets, that's the Garrett smile stopping, stopping. Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes me clown smile. You guys gonna ask me
Speaker 1: some more questions. I hate that I don't want to answer.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, okay, let's get the safety subject out
Speaker 1: of the way and just jump right into it. They
Speaker 1: ended up signing Jerome Johnson and gave him number twenty nine.
Speaker 1: So does that change any of the talks that we've
Speaker 1: been having as far as, oh, well, maybe get Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas here. Well, they ended up giving that number up
Speaker 1: to this guy. It changes absolutely nothing. Yeah, Lily's number
Speaker 1: is given to Doran's armstrong and he's not going to
Speaker 1: keep it, so you know. And the thing is, if
Speaker 1: you get Earl Thomas, not only is this guy giving
Speaker 1: up his number, but his lock or everything else. He's
Speaker 1: probably like that. No disrespect, no disrespect intended to JJ Wilcox,
Speaker 1: but he's one of the nicest guys that I've covered
Speaker 1: with this team. But I mean, if another team signed
Speaker 1: JJ Wilcox, just that's what we're talking about here. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: this this JJ Wilcox guy. Is he gonna keep you
Speaker 1: from doing anything out? No, he's a journeyman, veteran guy
Speaker 1: who you didn't pay a lot of money to whom
Speaker 1: if I could see him making the fifty three, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bank on it. If John Johnson gets cut
Speaker 1: and ends up joining the break and sits over there,
Speaker 1: we would still have zero interceptions as a group. Jeez,
Speaker 1: I make me happy. Thanks right. I think he's just
Speaker 1: a special team he was. He was Chris Richard's Cavan
Speaker 1: Frasier in Seattle. That's what he was. He's a special
Speaker 1: teams guy who's still in trouble. Come week one of
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods isn't playing. Yeah, yeah, you could argue you're
Speaker 1: in trouble if he is. All right, I want to
Speaker 1: say it again, saying, well, it doesn't believe in the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I didn't haven't seen him. He has started a game.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Cowboys had an event today. Is
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones was out? I guess at and T Stadium
Speaker 1: actually Texas Live, which I'm very excited. Okay, So for
Speaker 1: BBR stuff, well, I think I don't know why they
Speaker 1: did it there. They just did. But it's the new
Speaker 1: indoor happening party spot that they built right between the
Speaker 1: Rangers new Ballpark in at and T Stadium. How's that
Speaker 1: gonna fit Cowboy games? They don't gonna fit Ranger games
Speaker 1: when they start playing. Means I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: assume it's going to give people a place to hang out,
Speaker 1: place to go like a bar. I mean, is it
Speaker 1: is go hang out? It's the new thing, you know.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of our listeners aren't in Dallas,
Speaker 1: but if you are, if you've ever been to Legacy
Speaker 1: Hall down the road, have you, It's it's a new thing.
Speaker 1: I know. They have something like this in Philly. It's
Speaker 1: something you see in situations like this, a lot where
Speaker 1: it's at one building that encompasses about eighteen different things.
Speaker 1: There's like would tell them about this, Yes, there's seven.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's like all for food ball
Speaker 1: specifically for like tailgating. There's like seven restaurants. There's a
Speaker 1: few bars, there's two stages. There's an outdoor stage and
Speaker 1: an indoor stage. Like it's basically just a one stop
Speaker 1: shop for you're going to the game later, here's where
Speaker 1: you can hang out and give us your money until then.
Speaker 1: I'm No, I'm one hundred percent like good business. LSU's
Speaker 1: playing out there in two weeks, and I do not
Speaker 1: want to hang out in a one hundred degree parking lot.
Speaker 1: I would much rather be in there. So you got
Speaker 1: options for foods. You can jump around get different kinds
Speaker 1: of food. Sorry, I'm not trying to do a commercial
Speaker 1: for Texas Live, but we do commercials for everything else.
Speaker 1: It's pretty badass, honestly. Like, if you're coming to a
Speaker 1: game this year, whether you live in Dallas or anywhere else,
Speaker 1: it's a cool little spot to go before the game
Speaker 1: that's going to be open, but the stadium won't be
Speaker 1: open for years I think tears. Well, I think twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: so a year and a half. Whatever. Yeah, any Stephen,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure Stephen was brought to his attention
Speaker 1: the whole question about safety again, I'm assuming, so any
Speaker 1: different answer than what we've been here in so far. No,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we signed to he said, probably
Speaker 1: don't expect to see Xavier Woods before this preseason's over. Maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, he's saying we have to allow for the
Speaker 1: possibility that he's not ready for the season opener. But
Speaker 1: that's our hope UM. And you know again, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like people expect us as reporters to just
Speaker 1: hammer him with questions about Earl Thomas, but he can't.
Speaker 1: Even if we did, he he can't. And you know
Speaker 1: there's some off the record conversations that happen when those
Speaker 1: types of things go down. But uh there he's he
Speaker 1: can't talk about that. There's been no progress in that, UM,
Speaker 1: but he did. You know, in those type of situations,
Speaker 1: he does allow that. You know, you're always looking at
Speaker 1: you're looking at ways to improve your team. I mean,
Speaker 1: he says talent acquisition is three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: days a year. I think he says that three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year. I really think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we've all we've covered the Earl Thomas thing
Speaker 1: enough that, yeah, we know that it's out there. It's
Speaker 1: certainly not impossible. But other than that, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to tell you, but I think this team is
Speaker 1: going to be looking for ways to address that between
Speaker 1: now and roster cuts. I think, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: prime spot where I think maybe you trade a six
Speaker 1: or seventh round pick for a guy if you see
Speaker 1: something you like or you sign. You know, if a
Speaker 1: team parts ways with a veteran for money reasons or something,
Speaker 1: maybe you pick him up. I do think they're going
Speaker 1: to be looking at that. But for the time being,
Speaker 1: this is it. It sounds like they're going to hold
Speaker 1: tight with what they've done here and hope that Woods
Speaker 1: can be back sooner rather than later. Yeah, and moving
Speaker 1: on from that. Travis Frederick, he's a guy that has
Speaker 1: been out of practice for a little bit and at
Speaker 1: training camp went with disgusting asnar. He went to LA
Speaker 1: to visit especialist. He's been having the stings is while
Speaker 1: you guys calling stingers on his neck. Anyways, Joe Looney
Speaker 1: has stepped in. He's done a great job. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: brought in and you guys to kind of ease the
Speaker 1: load on Looney. But in the meantime, Travis, we come
Speaker 1: back here now we hear that he's still getting some
Speaker 1: work done or like getting some work done analyzed. How
Speaker 1: big the issue is and when he last time talked,
Speaker 1: it sounded like it wasn't a big deal and it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, precautionary, I just need to rest. Does
Speaker 1: these new reports of just doing different exams concern. You guys,
Speaker 1: I get more and more worried as the days go by.
Speaker 1: You know, the first I was like, okay, whatever, he's
Speaker 1: getting a second opinion. People do that all the time.
Speaker 1: But this is day three where people have kind of
Speaker 1: been talking and asking about this, and the Cowboys don't
Speaker 1: have any firm answers. Stephen said this morning, he said
Speaker 1: he's still getting evaluated. I don't want to comment on
Speaker 1: it until we've heard that. He did say he's hoping
Speaker 1: that they get closure on this today. He said, maybe
Speaker 1: by later today we'll have, you know, some information that
Speaker 1: we can share. You know, people have asked Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: They've asked Stephen. I think they've asked asked Jerry too,
Speaker 1: you know, a surgery something and just no comment. Obviously
Speaker 1: it's a medical thing that's not surprising. But I mean
Speaker 1: until kind of like Zach Martin, you know, they said
Speaker 1: on Saturday night, we think he's gonna be okay. Well
Speaker 1: that's great, but I'd like some concrete confirmation that that's true.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I am with Frederick right now.
Speaker 1: I will say this though, I'm concerned about just anytime
Speaker 1: something like this lingers where you don't really know. There's
Speaker 1: still that possibility that it could be something worse than
Speaker 1: it is, but I think when you consider the totality
Speaker 1: of what you have at the backup position, I think
Speaker 1: this is actually one of the positions on this team,
Speaker 1: and they're on a whole lot of them, but I
Speaker 1: think this is one of the positions on this team
Speaker 1: where I feel pretty good about the backup. He's not
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick, but I feel pretty good that if he's
Speaker 1: surrounded by the guys they have on that line and
Speaker 1: the rest of that line's intact, I feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about what Joe Looney can do. The part worries you
Speaker 1: is you've now taken your swing guard and your backup center,
Speaker 1: and he's now a starter, which means if any one
Speaker 1: of those three positions goes down, you're in trouble. And
Speaker 1: that's the part that worries me way more than if
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Looney for a bit without instead
Speaker 1: of Travis Frederick, Well and Psych Martin. He's expected to
Speaker 1: be back for the first home season. I can't even
Speaker 1: say that word season opener, home season opener game. There
Speaker 1: he goes season opener. He's expected to be back, so Nick,
Speaker 1: how much that does that concern you? Now that if
Speaker 1: you did have Travis Frederick Allen, let's say Zach is
Speaker 1: not ready by that first week, now you got two starters. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a loss. I think, you know for the game
Speaker 1: if you if you go to Carolina and you don't
Speaker 1: have Zach Martin or Travis Frederick, I think you just
Speaker 1: start off and one for the season, um and got
Speaker 1: some studs on that line up there. It would be
Speaker 1: really a tough game because he does. You know, what
Speaker 1: you count on for this team is to be able
Speaker 1: to run the ball, be able to be you talk
Speaker 1: about Dak friendly, that's not very friendly for your quarterback
Speaker 1: because so you're gonna sit him that game, Like you
Speaker 1: just be like, I don't even want to throw him out.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting for that game. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be sitting for this this next game
Speaker 1: actually know which I know Dave would be excited to hear.
Speaker 1: But we said that's that's something else Stephen talked about
Speaker 1: that we can get let's talk about that in a second.
Speaker 1: But I just think you know from a line for
Speaker 1: the line calls, uh, you know that that's something that
Speaker 1: goes unnoticed sometimes. I think Frederick does a great job.
Speaker 1: I think Zack Martin would take that over if Frederick. UM,
Speaker 1: not to say Looney can't do it, but if you
Speaker 1: lose both those guys, that would be tough right there.
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, because you're talking about signing people,
Speaker 1: that's gonna affect your roster because you have to sign
Speaker 1: or keep more people just for that. Joe Looney has
Speaker 1: looked really good. He's had a great preseason. I feel
Speaker 1: great about him. Um, I would feel good if he
Speaker 1: had to step in because Travis twisted his ankle or something.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go with you because and and
Speaker 1: this purely speculation on my part. I want to make
Speaker 1: that clear. But like you're talking about neurological stuff here
Speaker 1: with the stingers like his this is if if he
Speaker 1: misses time because of this, I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a couple of games. Well he like it.
Speaker 1: Just that sounds like a big deal to me, Like
Speaker 1: when you're talking about your neck and your spine and
Speaker 1: you're I mean, I've had stingers and I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's that that's one of those things that it's just
Speaker 1: rest and everybody's bodies different what I've been told, and
Speaker 1: so it just's my point though, is it was it
Speaker 1: was stingers on Wednesday of last week when we were
Speaker 1: out in LA and now we're on day four of
Speaker 1: Travis Watch. Like if if something more is coming out
Speaker 1: of this, then I again speculation on my part. It
Speaker 1: sounds more serious than stingers. It sounds like you're saying
Speaker 1: you think that it could be more than it. It
Speaker 1: certainly could. I guess what I'm saying is based on
Speaker 1: what we know at this point, which is the way
Speaker 1: they've diagnosed or at least described it is at its stingers.
Speaker 1: If it was purely what we know and nothing more,
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't still be an issue, right, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: keep getting second This is not surprising, not true though.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true because I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to stingers, they're not as as black and white
Speaker 1: as you think. It's not like I tore my knee
Speaker 1: toward the a cl on my knee. Like when you
Speaker 1: have stingers, there's a lot of different tests you go
Speaker 1: through to kind of figure out the severity, to figure
Speaker 1: out like is it a specific disc and how how
Speaker 1: you know what's causing that that problem to go from
Speaker 1: your neck all the way down your arm. Like it's
Speaker 1: not as simple as just a simple evaluation. Here's the
Speaker 1: black and white of it. I get what I just
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. But he saw somebody who's
Speaker 1: supposedly like the best at this stuff in California. And
Speaker 1: I again, y'all know me, like, I'm a half I'm
Speaker 1: a glass half empty person all the way. So I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm bracing myself for it to not be great
Speaker 1: news man, that's me. Maybe this is a Witten moment.
Speaker 1: He didn't like what he told him, and so he's
Speaker 1: looking for somebody else to tell them what he wants
Speaker 1: to hear. Like we saw that with Jason Witten when
Speaker 1: he had was that with the spleen. Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: know the guy, the guy was like, yeah, you can't play,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, let's go talk to somebody else.
Speaker 1: And he found somebody that would tell him, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't play. So this is the opposite. Though he got
Speaker 1: good to you saying, oh, all you need to do.
Speaker 1: And Steve Stephen Jones said this morning he's still feeling
Speaker 1: the effects of that. He's still dealing with some symptoms,
Speaker 1: which he hasn't practiced at this point in a week,
Speaker 1: which that seems troubling to me. So again, I don't
Speaker 1: know anything purely speculation. I want to make sure that's clear.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be responsible, but I feel like maybe
Speaker 1: that's just my nature, but I am bracing for them
Speaker 1: to tell us something that's not great. Definitely, longer this
Speaker 1: thing goes on, the more we all probably think is
Speaker 1: something extra is happening here, just because it keeps taking
Speaker 1: longer and longer, right, which means they're trying to figure
Speaker 1: things out, right, right, So right Again, if it was
Speaker 1: just cut and dry, got a stinger, you need to
Speaker 1: rest to be fine, we wouldn't We wouldn't have talked
Speaker 1: about this past last week. This is not a surprise
Speaker 1: at all. If you watch him block, there's several times
Speaker 1: when he's doing one on one and he's getting beat,
Speaker 1: he's getting pushed back, and then all the sudden he's
Speaker 1: not anymore. He arches his back and he kind of
Speaker 1: just digs in and gets his bass under him and
Speaker 1: he just kind of contorts his whole back and it
Speaker 1: just stops. This guy thinks he's you know, Richard ashe
Speaker 1: or somebody whoever, you know, was just making a push
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods and then just stops, and you know, and
Speaker 1: he's been doing that for three or four years now,
Speaker 1: and he just wondered about the lower back. But he
Speaker 1: also was getting beat a lot more than he ever had,
Speaker 1: And I think it kind of makes sense now that
Speaker 1: you know he wasn't one hundred percent healthy, because he
Speaker 1: doesn't get beat like that, especially the guys that probably
Speaker 1: won't be in the NFL, which yeah, I mean again,
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see what they say when
Speaker 1: they say it, hopefully it's by the end of today,
Speaker 1: but it's it's something to watch. And Joe Looney has
Speaker 1: been great, but Travis Frederick is still, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the five or six best players on this team
Speaker 1: for sure, and that would not be great if it
Speaker 1: is a serious injury. Zack Martin is still pending because
Speaker 1: he's still under recovery. Doesn't sound as major as we
Speaker 1: thought he would be, but he's still on a waiting
Speaker 1: status now. As far as Cole Beasley, we've been talking
Speaker 1: at him for a long time wondering why he hasn't
Speaker 1: been on the field and is it more than just
Speaker 1: an injury. Blah blah blah. Now he's back. Yesterday he
Speaker 1: did some things out of practice. He's coming back from
Speaker 1: a growing injury. I wanted to see based on what
Speaker 1: you guys saw so far and yesterday practice it wasn't
Speaker 1: all that because again they're not fully pattis nothing like
Speaker 1: training camp anymore or backing Knox nartive, which is sad,
Speaker 1: but but he did some things and just wanted to
Speaker 1: get a quick evaluation of him and his comeback. I
Speaker 1: might be in the minority on this. I know he's
Speaker 1: never been to a Pro Bowl. I know he didn't
Speaker 1: have a great year last year, But like I lump
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley in that category where I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 1: September ninth, you're going to go. You know, he looked
Speaker 1: fine to me. I don't know. You don't need to
Speaker 1: play in the preseason at all. Yeah, that's safe. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we are back and jumping into Rereco gathers the guy
Speaker 1: that we also keep talking about. And now he's been
Speaker 1: practicing with the first team offense. Oh what's going on?
Speaker 1: So they Oh, we do we have to do? We
Speaker 1: have to do this. I'm just saying, so thoughts on
Speaker 1: him getting some reps in the first team offense. And
Speaker 1: again we're getting close to the date line of when
Speaker 1: cuts need to be made. And Rico has been one
Speaker 1: of those guys who he has been making plays. He
Speaker 1: has been catching the balls and at least keeping it
Speaker 1: very intriguing for all of those and we talked about
Speaker 1: it yesterday a lot. But yeah, put him in the
Speaker 1: first team, go up against Caroline, I mean the Cardinals defense,
Speaker 1: Arizona's defense. Let him go in there and face guys
Speaker 1: that are going to be in the NFL and not
Speaker 1: out jump players that probably won't be in the league
Speaker 1: and just put the competition up a little bit more
Speaker 1: for him see how he does in the games. I
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be around him for this game,
Speaker 1: but he'll have some some players out there that he knows.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to jump into that real, not
Speaker 1: to just completely derail you. We can talk about Rico,
Speaker 1: I promise, But um, I get interesting because Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: is the second person I've heard say this now, which is, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the first team played a lot more than
Speaker 1: we thought they would on Saturday night in the first place,
Speaker 1: like they had something. I think they said they had
Speaker 1: twenty reps planned out for him, and they were at
Speaker 1: like eighteen when they started that third possession, and then
Speaker 1: they went on a sixteen play drive. So they went
Speaker 1: well over the threshold that they had set in the
Speaker 1: first place, because you're not going to pull him out
Speaker 1: during a successful drive anyway. And so I wonder how
Speaker 1: much we're gonna see these guys, especially, I mean, Zach
Speaker 1: and Travis aren't going to play. You guys know how
Speaker 1: I feel, But I wonder how they I mean, you
Speaker 1: said you think Dak's gonna play a little. I think
Speaker 1: he plays a little bit. If he does, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine it's more than like a series or two. But
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what if what if Frederick doesn't
Speaker 1: play the opener? I would like for Dak and Looney
Speaker 1: to kind of get a few reps in together, which
Speaker 1: they have. They got thirty nine on Saturday, I got
Speaker 1: something the other night. Let's get some more in. Now.
Speaker 1: Would you want to see Ezekiel Elliot? Would you expect
Speaker 1: him to play, because this is the one game that
Speaker 1: in the preseason her Yeah, I do, Actually, I know
Speaker 1: I kind of want to see him too, just for
Speaker 1: a little bit. You can make a case for every
Speaker 1: I mean every for every guy that gets hurt in
Speaker 1: the preseason, you can make the case. But if a
Speaker 1: guy rushes for one hundred and fifty yards in the opener,
Speaker 1: I guarantee, maybe you can say, well, you know, he
Speaker 1: had a few snaps, he wasn't rusty. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can make a case. Again, it wouldn't do It goes
Speaker 1: along with the same thing of Dak and what's happening
Speaker 1: in the old line. It's like, okay, do you still
Speaker 1: want to go a little bit, just a little I
Speaker 1: need a series or two we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Zeke is a sturdy dude too. Like it would be
Speaker 1: one thing if we were talking about a guy that
Speaker 1: looks like Lance Dunbar that you're like, ad, I don't know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of slight. You didn't want to take a
Speaker 1: few hits on him as possible. Zek's a sturdy guy.
Speaker 1: I don't think if you give him a series just
Speaker 1: to get hit a little bit, like he hasn't been hit,
Speaker 1: He doesn't get hit in practice. Just give him, give
Speaker 1: him a series, run a couple of times, and I
Speaker 1: think it just gives him an opportunity to just kind
Speaker 1: of experienced that feel, like getting a little and taking
Speaker 1: a blow, getting going down, getting back up. Like, I
Speaker 1: just think it gives gives him a little feel, gives
Speaker 1: him a little taste before you get to the regular season.
Speaker 1: And I understand what Dave saying, like you would be
Speaker 1: you would be mortified if you ended up losing your
Speaker 1: running back for the season. Knock on wood. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I also think this is football, and the other side
Speaker 1: of me says, you can't run from that in football
Speaker 1: because that's the nature of football. And I get you
Speaker 1: know what, it makes a lot of difference if you
Speaker 1: lose him in a regular season versus a preseason game.
Speaker 1: But I do think giving him a couple of snaps, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so how many, how many, how how many possessions would
Speaker 1: you give? I'd probably give him a series. I treat
Speaker 1: him like I treat everybody, all the starters in Week one,
Speaker 1: So preseason, at most, he probably gets sixteen snaps or
Speaker 1: maybe even as few as three. Yeah, he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get at least two carries, anywhere from two to six carries.
Speaker 1: So we'll say we'll just average it out and say
Speaker 1: ten snaps, six touches, and then he's gonna sit on
Speaker 1: his butt for two weeks. And that's gonna make this
Speaker 1: crazy difference. No, it's not gonna make it crazy. It's
Speaker 1: just gonna give him an opportunity to get a taste.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all because guess what, guess what the
Speaker 1: whatever reps it that you've given these rook I mean,
Speaker 1: these vets through these last couple of weeks, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Like, is that going to make a huge difference? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Maybe not. The point is, you give him a little
Speaker 1: taste before you get to the regular season where it counts.
Speaker 1: The offensive line. You know, they have to work in
Speaker 1: unison and work together, and they've got a rookie between them.
Speaker 1: I get you don't think the running back has to
Speaker 1: work in unison with them as well. You could just
Speaker 1: not cut me off before I'm deals my point. They
Speaker 1: got to do all that. The quarterback. Offensive line has
Speaker 1: to work because brought us would say offensive line has
Speaker 1: to work together. They got to do their thing. They
Speaker 1: got a rookie, the quarterback deaf. He's not in a
Speaker 1: point where yeah, see, hey, there is good. You're talking
Speaker 1: about arguably the best running back in football, or certainly
Speaker 1: one of them who's in his third year and has
Speaker 1: gotten an overwhelmingly heavy workload in training camp, like they've
Speaker 1: been working that guy. They're not given a lot of
Speaker 1: reps to bow Scarborough and Darius Jackson, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: could help him, but again, risk reward, risk reward, and
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of reward and a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot of risk. I think I refuse to
Speaker 1: believe that and snaps for one of the best running
Speaker 1: backs and football is gonna make that pick of it.
Speaker 1: Only thing we have it to judge it by is
Speaker 1: that every year, during the preseason starters play and what
Speaker 1: if for whatever amount of time they play, And so
Speaker 1: the coaches, the people that evaluate this stuff professionally think
Speaker 1: for some reason it makes a difference. Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trust that it makes some kind of difference to them.
Speaker 1: Some reps it does make a difference. It's just not
Speaker 1: worth the risk, right well, And I mean to me,
Speaker 1: I look at it like you guys that both run
Speaker 1: you know, some half marathons, right yeah. And I mean,
Speaker 1: so that's the one thing I can kind of equate
Speaker 1: this too, or any kind of sport where you're not
Speaker 1: you haven't done it in a while. I would at
Speaker 1: least want a little bit of time before it really
Speaker 1: really counts, so you know, you don't have to run
Speaker 1: the whole thing, obviously, but you want to run a
Speaker 1: little bit. You don't want when as soon as it's
Speaker 1: time to race. I haven't raced anything in a year,
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't run at all, And so I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of for me mentally. I would just
Speaker 1: be like, I got a few carries in that game
Speaker 1: against Arizona, not any but a few where I'm not
Speaker 1: going into Carolina and I haven't done anything since the
Speaker 1: Philly game last year, that would be my thing. It
Speaker 1: was just just I want I want five or six.
Speaker 1: So I'm not It's only been two weeks. It hasn't
Speaker 1: been forty seven weeks. And even if it's not a lot,
Speaker 1: it's just a little taste, like it's just a little
Speaker 1: taste of taking that hit and going down and getting
Speaker 1: back up, like that's a part of it is just
Speaker 1: kind of set. If he's gonna be like I told
Speaker 1: you so, I understand it. But if I'm I'm done
Speaker 1: saying I told you so, because I say it every
Speaker 1: year and I'm always right, I'm always right. How's it.
Speaker 1: I was right about Romo. I approved my point. They
Speaker 1: got lucky, but Zack Martin got hurt last weekend, Zach.
Speaker 1: They could have lost their best player for the year.
Speaker 1: So I'm usually right about this. But that's not the
Speaker 1: right because every team does it, and there's still teams
Speaker 1: that win the Super Bowl, like the team that won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, they did the exact same
Speaker 1: thing about four and one in the regular season in
Speaker 1: Week one. Since you've been I mean it's in the
Speaker 1: last five years, they're three and two. I think they've
Speaker 1: lost two openers every single team in the league does this.
Speaker 1: Somebody still wins every year, so your point is not proven.
Speaker 1: You look across the league, there are tons of teams
Speaker 1: that go through the preseason, they play their starters. Every
Speaker 1: team plays are started. I don't think you can make
Speaker 1: that point without like going and breaking down how teams
Speaker 1: use their starters. And you mean to tell me there
Speaker 1: are teams that don't play their starters preseason. There are
Speaker 1: teams that play them a lot less. That's not the
Speaker 1: point because we're not saying playing a lot, we say
Speaker 1: play him a series. You're saying they're teams that don't
Speaker 1: play their starters in the preseason. I think you just
Speaker 1: have to go back and see, like the top players
Speaker 1: of guys that don't play, and what do they do?
Speaker 1: How does how does their seasons start? I mean Emmett Smith,
Speaker 1: I don't think did much of anything in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Look at look at the runner in Pittsburgh the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. He's had a slow start because he
Speaker 1: hadn't been in training camp and hadn't played. Well. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit different because he's not practicing. If
Speaker 1: Zeke was doing nothing, then I would agree with tour
Speaker 1: coming in here. Y'all want to see Zeke and Zeke
Speaker 1: should play against the Cardinals. Everybody, no crazy, everybody's in
Speaker 1: on that. Keep my all pros off the field. I
Speaker 1: think they heard exactly what you said. They're like, yeah, great, whatever,
Speaker 1: they're all in. They're all in playing. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move let's move on. Let's move on. Let's get into
Speaker 1: Brandy Gregory, a guy that we didn't even talk about Rico.
Speaker 1: Thank god it worked, yes, version, very good diversion and
Speaker 1: he did that verse. We went on the whole rampage
Speaker 1: for last ten minutes. You don't want to talk about Rico.
Speaker 1: We can talk about Let's let's just finish him because
Speaker 1: he's one of those players that if he if he
Speaker 1: misses a block and the guy gets sacked, everyone in
Speaker 1: the press box is gonna laugh. It's gonna be on
Speaker 1: everybody's little meme on their you know, on their Twitter,
Speaker 1: and oh, this guy's horrible. He's to be playing basketball
Speaker 1: in Europe. That's what's gonna happen. If he catches another
Speaker 1: touchdown pass or a touchdown pass, it's gonna be on
Speaker 1: memes on Twitter. And this guy's the next Antonio Gates.
Speaker 1: So he's one of those Everything that happens with him,
Speaker 1: it's just hot and cold. It's like he's he's great.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep him, or you gotta get rid of
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, there's really no in between. So
Speaker 1: but here's the part that I still go back to him,
Speaker 1: or you and I were having this conversation a little earlier,
Speaker 1: When you look at a guy like Dalton Schultz, Guess
Speaker 1: what if he's out there, there's as much of a
Speaker 1: chance that he's gonna get tossed and they're gonna get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback as well. So I don't I don't. Really.
Speaker 1: It would be one thing if you had a roster
Speaker 1: of really well developed tight ends that you felt great about.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case here. All of them,
Speaker 1: to some degree, you're trying to prove something or another.
Speaker 1: Jeff Swaim is the only one that really has any experience, right,
Speaker 1: And so I don't think it's a situation where where
Speaker 1: you're you're really looking at this and saying, we've got
Speaker 1: to have these other guys because they're so so much
Speaker 1: more experience or there's so much better at this particular
Speaker 1: thing than him. I think they all got warts and
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, the one thing that he does that
Speaker 1: none of them can do is catch passes in an
Speaker 1: athletic way that he does. And so if none of
Speaker 1: them can do that, but they're all a little shaky blocking, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you really losing? And I don't mind cutting
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick, not in this case, not in
Speaker 1: a in a case like this, it doesn't bother me
Speaker 1: at all because I already feel like I won. I've
Speaker 1: got a seventh round pick that's starting. I've got an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent that's going to be a backup that
Speaker 1: I like. And I've got a sixth round pick I
Speaker 1: took off of a basketball team that's gonna make the team.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, yes, you kind of wasted the
Speaker 1: resource here, but you've actually got three over here. That's that,
Speaker 1: and that's my thought. I don't think they believe that way.
Speaker 1: They put a lot of hard work into drafting these
Speaker 1: I would have to see that to believe it, just
Speaker 1: with how much they pride themselves on their draft. It's
Speaker 1: been ten years since they drafted or twelve years since
Speaker 1: they cut a fourth round pick. I got no way
Speaker 1: to have four then, I just think, which I honestly
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I think you can do that. And
Speaker 1: I just I feel like this guy's gonna end up.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be willing to say, we'll deal with the
Speaker 1: warts because we're gonna get some the Let's say, Carolina
Speaker 1: is this Sunday. This Sunday is Carolina? They keep four?
Speaker 1: Who who is your third tight end in active? Jarwin? Sorry? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never I never answer with what I would do.
Speaker 1: I'm saying what I think they are. Okay, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think that, and I agree with you. I think Brian's
Speaker 1: taught you that, Like which is which is what want
Speaker 1: to hear to hear there's a time to offer your opinion,
Speaker 1: but I think fans want to hear both. I think
Speaker 1: fans want to not only know what the team, what
Speaker 1: they think the team's going to do, but also what
Speaker 1: your opinions are, because you guys are in a position
Speaker 1: to give opinion. Yeah, here's the thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: we've seen enough of Rico, Like they haven't put him
Speaker 1: out there enough to where we can fully say, all right,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is great, let's let's just keep
Speaker 1: it going. Or maybe this is just what he does
Speaker 1: a little bit of this now is that going to
Speaker 1: fill you up. Maybe not, I don't know, but they
Speaker 1: just haven't given him yet enough time, enough playing time,
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to see, because again, amazing athlete,
Speaker 1: the body is incredible. As far as the position, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to make that catch that he
Speaker 1: made last week, and if he wasn't the type of
Speaker 1: guy that he is as big as he is. So
Speaker 1: so you want to see sixty snaps on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of talking about both sides of my
Speaker 1: mouth because earlier in the week I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you got to give those other guys options because they
Speaker 1: need to develop as well. But I'm starting to think
Speaker 1: you kind of need to figure out with him, and
Speaker 1: so in this situation, you would gain way more by
Speaker 1: giving him a full load because you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: make a decision specifically on him. So I would be
Speaker 1: okay with the idea of them just running him out
Speaker 1: there for the whole game. I really would him and
Speaker 1: Schultz both, honestly, I mean, and whatever happened happens, But
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to put Swim and Jarwin
Speaker 1: in that Zeke category where I don't want to see him,
Speaker 1: But I think I need to see Schultz and ricco
Speaker 1: more than I want to see Swim and those who
Speaker 1: are making the team. Yeah, right, do y'all want to
Speaker 1: see Randy? Yeah? Well, yeah, you want to see him.
Speaker 1: Brandy Gregory has one career sack. He's not Zeke Elliott,
Speaker 1: not on that level. Coach ahead, I was going to
Speaker 1: talk about what the coach, coach Marion he said yesterday,
Speaker 1: or he talked about the grade that coach gave him,
Speaker 1: which was a C minus for a guy that we
Speaker 1: kind of all been praising as far as man, yeah,
Speaker 1: come back, I mean what kind of comes back I've had.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of parties after a C minus. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, as long as what did you say?
Speaker 1: Even said like D for diploma, right, I said that
Speaker 1: all the time, Get you degrees is what he said.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I said that too, D for diploma. I
Speaker 1: think a C minus and a guy who has shown
Speaker 1: a lot of good things right now, given the history
Speaker 1: that we know of him. So I don't think he
Speaker 1: played that great in the game, which I mean he
Speaker 1: was okay, He wasn't like a difference maker like we
Speaker 1: saw at a practice so I can understand why. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a game grade. He wasn't really just pushing the
Speaker 1: pile back every time, but it was a little bit active.
Speaker 1: The ball got out quick, which is what you want.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't think he played poorly C minus.
Speaker 1: He would he would have had a sack if not
Speaker 1: for a holding call on or false start start because
Speaker 1: they called they stopped the play here he zipped right
Speaker 1: around the corner. Yeah, But you know the interesting part
Speaker 1: about that is I would wonder if that C minus
Speaker 1: had anything to do with um. And I don't want
Speaker 1: this to sound bad. Let me quantify it. Let me
Speaker 1: qualify it effort. And what I mean by that is,
Speaker 1: you know, they put a lot of stock in running
Speaker 1: to the play after you know, even if it's down
Speaker 1: the field, everybody charging to the play, and a guy
Speaker 1: like him that has not played a lot of football,
Speaker 1: they may be like, hey, we need more, we need more,
Speaker 1: and that that's a process that he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: go through to get himself back into shape. That's the
Speaker 1: difference between being in shape and being in football shape
Speaker 1: is the ability to run full blast for and in play,
Speaker 1: go back to the huddle and then do it all
Speaker 1: over again and keep doing it over and over and
Speaker 1: guarantee there have been guys that have had two sacks
Speaker 1: in a game that have like a C. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great point. We don't we don't hear the grades
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, I don't on a Scandrick
Speaker 1: he used to do that on the other side and
Speaker 1: say Marinelli. I guess Marinelli offered that up like he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I gave him a C minus. Oh, Gregory, Okay.
Speaker 1: That they don't like to give out the grades. They
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about that stuff. Now. They don't
Speaker 1: put the report card up on the media to see.
Speaker 1: So you just see that would be every Thursday thing
Speaker 1: like would you get I thought I wrote it would
Speaker 1: be funny. Actually yeah, but it's fird to say. We
Speaker 1: we've liked everything that we've seen from him so far
Speaker 1: and out of that game, even when he wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: making a good play or like a play that was
Speaker 1: significant enough, we did see him or at least I did,
Speaker 1: running around and just taking off and maybe something that
Speaker 1: you were pointing out, making sure that he's going after
Speaker 1: that play, even the fact of him running after that,
Speaker 1: I I wasn't gonna do anything because he was It
Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna get there. But he still had the
Speaker 1: effort to keep going for it and at least try
Speaker 1: and rush. And he's athletic ability. He's great compared to
Speaker 1: everybody else, like he's at the NFL football level right now.
Speaker 1: You could talk about the grade all you want. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if the Cowboys feel comfortable
Speaker 1: enough to basically move Tyron Crawford to defensive tackle, that
Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about what they
Speaker 1: really think about where Randy Gregory is. Because I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting much this season. I think they expect he's going
Speaker 1: to be able to contribute starting out the season. I
Speaker 1: actually I wanted to talk more about that because Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones mentioned it this morning. But if you want to
Speaker 1: take a break first, we can. Yeah, yeah, we do that,
Speaker 1: all right, Yes, let's go ahead and take a break.
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Speaker 1: you were about to tell us something that you heard today. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones really kind of he dished for like fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes today and just you know, so, we've seen Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford play some tackle here in practice for the last
Speaker 1: week or so, and I asked him because you know,
Speaker 1: the problems that defensive tackle have been well documented. The
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory story has been well documented. So I asked him,
Speaker 1: you know, is Tyrone playing tackle more about what you
Speaker 1: don't have at tackle or is it more about what
Speaker 1: you you have it end? And he said, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's really a lot about what we have it end.
Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking about this off air
Speaker 1: just now. Nobody could have predicted in July that Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory would even be practicing, let alone practicing well. And
Speaker 1: on top of that, I don't want to speak for y'all,
Speaker 1: but you know, going back to the Dalton Schultz thing,
Speaker 1: once you get to the fourth round, I assume you're
Speaker 1: probably not going to contribute in a big way. You know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where the drop off is. I was
Speaker 1: wrong about Dorian's armstrong in that regard. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: still got to do in the regular season, but he
Speaker 1: looks he looks like a guy who can contribute right away.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think if we go back, and
Speaker 1: we had several questions, whether it be on here or
Speaker 1: what the guys that you're thinking are going to impact.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned him several times because I thought he
Speaker 1: would push Taco Charlton to a level that would be
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, and I think he's done that.
Speaker 1: And I think that they've all learned from DeMarcus as well.
Speaker 1: So I mean I thought they were gonna we were
Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit him. Not to this level.
Speaker 1: He's been stronger than I thought he would be as
Speaker 1: a rookie. I mean, he's got upper body strength. You
Speaker 1: just don't see himing into the door, which makes me
Speaker 1: think next year he could be just a breakout player.
Speaker 1: And well just the other Another thing Steven said, which
Speaker 1: I think is important to note, Like people always want
Speaker 1: it to be black and white. I don't think Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford is just now an undertackle and that's all he's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Steve's Steven said, He's probably gonna do both.
Speaker 1: He's got the versatility to do that. He still plays
Speaker 1: the run really well. He's still probably, I would guess,
Speaker 1: going to be a defensive captain. I think you'll see
Speaker 1: him play in two. But they've got two right ends
Speaker 1: that they didn't think they had when training camp started,
Speaker 1: So yeah, why not try to get him on the
Speaker 1: field especially, and we've seen that in practice. I think
Speaker 1: in nickel obvious pass rushing situations, if you can put
Speaker 1: Tyrone at three technique, that sounds pretty nice to me.
Speaker 1: He's a captain right now, and he's done everything they've
Speaker 1: asked him to do. If if, and when he ever
Speaker 1: goes to another team and has that first interview, he'll
Speaker 1: probably talk about the frustration of being here and what
Speaker 1: you know, he got his body to the point where
Speaker 1: he is going to be a defensive end and then
Speaker 1: these guys blow up and now he got to slide
Speaker 1: inside and he's not. He doesn't look like a defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He looks like an end. So, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of been a frustrating thing for him. If his
Speaker 1: versatility has kind of got the best at of him,
Speaker 1: and then he's an Now he's small playing tackle and
Speaker 1: he's not gonna you know, and all fans look at
Speaker 1: they don't look at that number. They look at his
Speaker 1: salary number, and I'm like, wow, where's the sacks? And
Speaker 1: so he's in a kind of a no win situation.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I'll eat some crow in that regard too,
Speaker 1: because in the offseason we even were like, he's not
Speaker 1: playing tackle, he can't play tackle, but he's versatile, and
Speaker 1: then I mean, the the blunt truth of the matter
Speaker 1: is if there's guys on the roster that look like
Speaker 1: they can rush the passer better than you. You're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna get moved or sad or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just I mean, Randy Gregory looks the way he looks.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get to play. But you know, Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: said this too, and to his credit, I think Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford just cares about winning games and contributing to a
Speaker 1: He's a great teammate. Oh he's he's And that's the
Speaker 1: reason why they can do this with him, because that
Speaker 1: not every player would be as amenable to something like this.
Speaker 1: You need guys like that. And yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 1: gonna get killed because you would prefer his salary to
Speaker 1: be a little bit lower. But yeah, he's got none
Speaker 1: of but good stuff to say. So all those other
Speaker 1: qualities are important off the field as well. And Ken,
Speaker 1: do we still have Nigel on the line? We do?
Speaker 1: Les go ahead, Nigel. Hey, guys, how are you hey?
Speaker 1: Just taking the call? You know, Nick, I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you now, I'm starting to realize why Vince Vaughan blew
Speaker 1: you off at the bow a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: No boot chat. Yeah, he's a little you know, thinking
Speaker 1: you're a little negative on our boys. But hey, look,
Speaker 1: this is gonna bother you. But I've been to hold
Speaker 1: him for a while. This I just want to touch
Speaker 1: base on a couple of things. Rico gathers. I know
Speaker 1: that's gonna kill you, probably rolling your eyes right now.
Speaker 1: And Cooper Rush. The first thing with Rico in my opinion,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been out to the practices. I've been
Speaker 1: watching him for the last two years. And some guys,
Speaker 1: you know Alan Iverson didn't like to practice. Some guys
Speaker 1: don't show up at practice like they show up at
Speaker 1: game time. And in my opinion, which probably means nothing anyone,
Speaker 1: when I watched Rico, he can post up and with
Speaker 1: today's cornerbacks that they're rarely looking at the ball. They're
Speaker 1: always chasing the receiver down the field. Nobody's eye on
Speaker 1: eye on the ball anymore, pretty much, and he sets
Speaker 1: himself up just to make plays. I think he's a gamer,
Speaker 1: and I hope to God he proves that to you
Speaker 1: this week. And that's my sewing out. The other is Cooper.
Speaker 1: I think he's a stud man. He hasn't thrown a
Speaker 1: pick once, and he's just been put in horrible situations
Speaker 1: like last week's game. He had no chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you put in. Guy had no chance.
Speaker 1: So those are my points. I'm sticking to it. I
Speaker 1: hope Cooper has a great game, and yeah, Zeke, I
Speaker 1: think they all I think they all need to play
Speaker 1: a quarter. Can't knew what he means everything, no matter
Speaker 1: how good you are, you know, all right, thanks for
Speaker 1: the call. I'm not. I don't think he said anything
Speaker 1: that Nick would disagree with. Honestly, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know where they came from about being negative and
Speaker 1: being negative. Thought I was the negative guy. That guy
Speaker 1: was cool. I don't. I'm like he was delivering that
Speaker 1: as though he had controversial opinions. I don't. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Rico should make the team. That's think he will
Speaker 1: make the team. That's what Rico does well. I don't
Speaker 1: think Cooper Rush is a stud, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he kind of overstated that a bit. I see, he
Speaker 1: hasn't done enough for me to say he's a stud.
Speaker 1: I think he's a developing player. There's been some things
Speaker 1: I liked that scene from him. There have been some
Speaker 1: things I was like, hey, I'm a little ambivalent on
Speaker 1: I mean, I most of most of them. Cooper Rush's
Speaker 1: struggles I would attribute to the people around him more
Speaker 1: than his own ability. But yeah, everything, Sorry, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, I think I've seen good enough things
Speaker 1: coming from him already being at a bad situation that
Speaker 1: I would expect him to be a lot better when
Speaker 1: put like with the offensive line, the first team and
Speaker 1: all that, if needed. That's why when when we talk
Speaker 1: about bringing in a veteran guy or whatever. Last game,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that was pretty bad. That was not good,
Speaker 1: and it made me think, man, maybe we do need
Speaker 1: to bring someone in here. But you have to take
Speaker 1: into account that he's not put with the right guys
Speaker 1: on the field that can help him and allow him
Speaker 1: to perform at a better level. And that only goes
Speaker 1: so far. I mean, I remember twenty fourteen, this team
Speaker 1: was rolling and Romo goes down, Brandon Wheaton comes in
Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that has three All pros, and
Speaker 1: they lost two games. And so you know, it's always
Speaker 1: was the case with him at Smith as well. You know,
Speaker 1: the guy mattered, as Garrett would say, the runner matters
Speaker 1: and the quarterback matters, and so but I think you're right,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, He's come in. He's done a nice job
Speaker 1: every time he gets the chance. For the most part,
Speaker 1: I think he's your backup quarterback, unless Mike White can
Speaker 1: can change your opinion, but I think he's your he's
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. I gotta see it to believe that
Speaker 1: he's gonna like hold the hold the rope if Dak
Speaker 1: goes down, you know, like I'm not. Yeah, if Dad
Speaker 1: goes down for an extended period of time, I think
Speaker 1: they're probably screwed. But maybe I'm wrong. But that's just
Speaker 1: how I feel right now. But he's been he's been
Speaker 1: adequate for now. Here's a question from Twitter who has
Speaker 1: been the bigger or the biggest disappointment this camp between
Speaker 1: Cony Eally and Hot War And we were talking about
Speaker 1: that in the press box at practice last night and
Speaker 1: we have the same answer. We did have the same answer.
Speaker 1: It was not a pass rusher um between those two
Speaker 1: that I would say Cony Eally for me, is it
Speaker 1: because of expectations? Probably? I mean, but but what were
Speaker 1: your expectations? But the Jets cut him, So if the
Speaker 1: Jets and it didn't feel like he was a good player,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, that's I think for me. At least,
Speaker 1: I didn't know a lot about jihad Ward coming in
Speaker 1: the door. I knew a bit more about Cony Ealy,
Speaker 1: so my expectations maybe were a little higher, knowing where
Speaker 1: he was drafted and that at some point somebody thought
Speaker 1: he could play it that lay. Did you not end
Speaker 1: up hearing more about Jihatward towards the middle? Yeah? I think.
Speaker 1: I mean those things kind of tend to show or
Speaker 1: like show a lot more who's doing better. Because when
Speaker 1: you start hearing from a guy that you've never really
Speaker 1: heard of before and now you're hearing his name constantly,
Speaker 1: then that's a good thing, right. I guess I'll probably
Speaker 1: say Eali again. You know his career hasn't panned out
Speaker 1: that way, but you had the hope that he could
Speaker 1: become that guy that had three sacks in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Jihad Ward, there's a chance he doesn't make this team,
Speaker 1: and I'll I'll do that deal again because that's why
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin's here, And that's how good I feel about
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. I mean, I know, you know he it's
Speaker 1: a separate trade, but they don't trade Ryan Switzer away
Speaker 1: if they never get Tavon Austin, So I'll gladly do
Speaker 1: that whole thing again, even if I get even I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, literally when that happened, you know, the word
Speaker 1: going around this building was like the Raiders drafted him
Speaker 1: too high. We liked him at the Senior Bowl, we thought,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, we'll just see what we got. Like.
Speaker 1: It's not like they were like, this is our undertackle
Speaker 1: of the future. Like that's not the type of stuff
Speaker 1: you're doing on a day three trade anyway, So probably
Speaker 1: Elie okay. And we haven't really hit on Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: again since we've been back, and last time to last
Speaker 1: time we talked about him, it was still kind of
Speaker 1: a concern. So here's a question. Has Dan bailey recent
Speaker 1: success in practice in games relieved some of our concerns? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But what let me let me back a little bit,
Speaker 1: because I don't think the last time we talked about this,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was concerned yet. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's who we were. I was. I wasn't ye are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? No? I think what we said was right.
Speaker 1: Now We're keep being an eye oh yeah, just keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on it. Want to see what happens, but
Speaker 1: not concerned. You're keeping an eye. You're concern because, oh,
Speaker 1: you just like want to see if you go to
Speaker 1: a point where you need to be concerned. Go back
Speaker 1: and listen to that show she's talking about. We sound
Speaker 1: kind of all right. I didn't remember like that. I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Just it comes down to the regular season, Like his
Speaker 1: second miss. When is his second miss of the season.
Speaker 1: Is it halfway through the year? No big deal? Is
Speaker 1: it the first game? Is it the second game? And
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, So when he gets to the second miss,
Speaker 1: where are we in the season? And then that's what
Speaker 1: I mean. He can make every kick from now on,
Speaker 1: but I guarantee if he misses a twenty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal in Carolina, there'll be some talk. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. But he had four misses in
Speaker 1: three days and that's when we had that conversation. And
Speaker 1: since then he has missed one kick in two weeks
Speaker 1: and he made in a game. So you're, of course
Speaker 1: if he's If he struggles in the regular season, then
Speaker 1: it's a completely different conversation. But my the hackles on
Speaker 1: my neck. We're standing up and I've seen enough that
Speaker 1: I'm kind of back to It's like, all right, he's fine.
Speaker 1: Best kicker in the NFL right now, it's probably justin Tucker,
Speaker 1: right he misses hess. I think he's the all time
Speaker 1: leading statistically, he's the best. He beat Bailey from it
Speaker 1: started the season, it was Bailey. But if Tucker misses
Speaker 1: three kicks in the first three weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: Baltimore is going to be looking at what They're going
Speaker 1: to be a little concerned. Yeah, that's just the nature
Speaker 1: of the business. And that's that's kicker. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 1: what it is. No other and it's it sucks because
Speaker 1: it's no other position is like that really, no baby
Speaker 1: punter specialists based like you don't need to know the
Speaker 1: system of how we do things here. The ball just
Speaker 1: sits there and you kick it there a ton of
Speaker 1: There are a ton of average guys available to you
Speaker 1: at any given moment, right So it's I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about Mike White like you can cut a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, but it's different with a quarterback. Well
Speaker 1: you can, you know, doing something seventy five percent at
Speaker 1: the time. Him is great at every other position, But kicker,
Speaker 1: like that just the way it goes does seventy five sucks? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Well, at least seeing him get that kick
Speaker 1: and make it in during a game. Although it's preseason,
Speaker 1: it's still a game environment. It gave me personally a
Speaker 1: little bit of relief because we talked about the mental
Speaker 1: aspect of things and being writing the game and not
Speaker 1: letting that his conscious or mental things affect him as
Speaker 1: far as kicking. So I'm feeling good about Dan Bailey.
Speaker 1: Always have been, always will be, and I never doubt
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey is on my desk, A picture of him
Speaker 1: is on my desk. Yeah, all right, who do you
Speaker 1: guys think will be the eighth guy to make the
Speaker 1: team on the old line? Is he here yet? Nope?
Speaker 1: That was simple. I think I think you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have nine make the team, Yeah, because I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the eighth guys well, don't I think? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think the eighth guys here. I think the ninth.
Speaker 1: I can agree with that, and I think that they'll
Speaker 1: they'll sign someone a little bit better. If Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: is not ready to play, I think you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to keep his spot open and then have to sign
Speaker 1: somebody else to practice and do all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think you keep nine. I think you get a
Speaker 1: center who will probably be a game day guy. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Kidney will probably be a game day player
Speaker 1: as well. You have to go along there. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: if Looney starts, the beauty of having him is that
Speaker 1: he is a backup to three spots. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get that back up to three spots. Well,
Speaker 1: but I think the way I look at it, at
Speaker 1: least I would think between Looney and um and seventy five,
Speaker 1: you got two guys. Fleming, you got two guys. Dad.
Speaker 1: Let's say Frederick doesn't play Looney. Yes, if Frederick doesn't
Speaker 1: push your backup guard Edwards, who's your backup center? So
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my right now right now. Do they
Speaker 1: have a backup center on this team outside of of
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that a camp body or is that
Speaker 1: somebody that you think legitimately is going to be unprobably
Speaker 1: talking about Monday, But yeah, well that's it' that's a
Speaker 1: tough thing to answer right now. Like with Travis frederick'sself
Speaker 1: up in the air, if we assume that Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: can play, I think Kadeem at least makes the initial
Speaker 1: cut and then maybe they try to swap him out.
Speaker 1: But it's weird how a Travis Frederick injury can affect
Speaker 1: the tight end spot, can tect affect the last defensive back,
Speaker 1: quarterback quarter eight. Yeah, it affects all that because that
Speaker 1: is a center spot you have to keep open. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we talk. I mean it's and don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking down on it, but like we talk,
Speaker 1: so the fifty three man projection, what's the final roster,
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna last for twelve hours and it'll change
Speaker 1: again after the first game because somebody will get hurt,
Speaker 1: and like the fifty three never lasts longer than like
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. It's just constantly changing. So all right,
Speaker 1: I think that's all the time we have for today.
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