1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: WHOA what happened? There? Are we live? Oh? Okay, I 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: don't know. My headphone's just cut off. I don't know 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: where anyways, Hi, guys, welcome, I'm hosting today. That was weird? 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: What is going on? I was weird? All right, Okay, 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. Then, welcome guys. Derek is here. He's 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: gonna be joining us as a special guest today. And hey, 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: are you happy? Are you having a good day? Great? 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Smile Dave? How about you? I'm fantastic, sick. Thank you. 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: It freaked me out too, For whatever that's worth. That 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: was every day, Like I think every day we can 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: start all the time, every show, I think both you guys, 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: like at the beginning of every show, we just want 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: to see you smile? Right, I smile all the time? 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: I do. We need to get there, we go, But 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: that's not all the time. I smile all the time. 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: And Nick, I don't know, like he's got that frown 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: right now, Like this team's owing two in the preseason, 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: what's there to smile about? Okay unless you unless you 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: got red news about Earle? What are we even talking 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: about the regular season? And we get to like, oh 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: and three, zero and four, then I get it, we'll 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: all be in here frown. I was joking. But this 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: team's two and oh in the first time you go, 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and it's small about it. All right, we're gonna jump 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: into some musy music stuff. First, we're gonna talk about 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: the things that happened yesterday a little bit, and then 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to try to answer as many questions as 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: we can, as far as people sending those questions on 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Twitter at Cowboys Break or you can call us at 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: um can't can count. I can tell us the number 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: words the number eight eight five five to two ninety seven. Again, 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: that's eight eight eight eight five five to two nine seven. Okay, Well, 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: there you go. So you call us and I'm doing 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: this or trying to do this just because we keep 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: talking about the same thing over and over and that 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: is creepy that is creepy. It's weird. I'm not used 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: to that. That's the Garrets, that's the Garrett smile stopping, stopping. Okay, 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: that makes me clown smile. You guys gonna ask me 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: some more questions. I hate that I don't want to answer. 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, okay, let's get the safety subject out 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: of the way and just jump right into it. They 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: ended up signing Jerome Johnson and gave him number twenty nine. 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: So does that change any of the talks that we've 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: been having as far as, oh, well, maybe get Earl 51 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Thomas here. Well, they ended up giving that number up 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: to this guy. It changes absolutely nothing. Yeah, Lily's number 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: is given to Doran's armstrong and he's not going to 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: keep it, so you know. And the thing is, if 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: you get Earl Thomas, not only is this guy giving 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: up his number, but his lock or everything else. He's 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: probably like that. No disrespect, no disrespect intended to JJ Wilcox, 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: but he's one of the nicest guys that I've covered 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: with this team. But I mean, if another team signed 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: JJ Wilcox, just that's what we're talking about here. It's like, well, 61 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: this this JJ Wilcox guy. Is he gonna keep you 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: from doing anything out? No, he's a journeyman, veteran guy 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: who you didn't pay a lot of money to whom 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: if I could see him making the fifty three, but 65 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bank on it. If John Johnson gets cut 66 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: and ends up joining the break and sits over there, 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: we would still have zero interceptions as a group. Jeez, 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I make me happy. Thanks right. I think he's just 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: a special team he was. He was Chris Richard's Cavan 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Frasier in Seattle. That's what he was. He's a special 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: teams guy who's still in trouble. Come week one of 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods isn't playing. Yeah, yeah, you could argue you're 73 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: in trouble if he is. All right, I want to 74 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: say it again, saying, well, it doesn't believe in the Cowboys. 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: I didn't haven't seen him. He has started a game. 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Cowboys had an event today. Is 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones was out? I guess at and T Stadium 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: actually Texas Live, which I'm very excited. Okay, So for 79 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: BBR stuff, well, I think I don't know why they 80 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: did it there. They just did. But it's the new 81 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: indoor happening party spot that they built right between the 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Rangers new Ballpark in at and T Stadium. How's that 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna fit Cowboy games? They don't gonna fit Ranger games 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: when they start playing. Means I don't know, but I 85 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: assume it's going to give people a place to hang out, 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: place to go like a bar. I mean, is it 87 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: is go hang out? It's the new thing, you know. 88 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: I know a lot of our listeners aren't in Dallas, 89 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: but if you are, if you've ever been to Legacy 90 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Hall down the road, have you, It's it's a new thing. 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: I know. They have something like this in Philly. It's 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: something you see in situations like this, a lot where 93 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: it's at one building that encompasses about eighteen different things. 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: There's like would tell them about this, Yes, there's seven. 95 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's like all for food ball 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: specifically for like tailgating. There's like seven restaurants. There's a 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: few bars, there's two stages. There's an outdoor stage and 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: an indoor stage. Like it's basically just a one stop 99 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: shop for you're going to the game later, here's where 100 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you can hang out and give us your money until then. 101 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm No, I'm one hundred percent like good business. LSU's 102 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: playing out there in two weeks, and I do not 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: want to hang out in a one hundred degree parking lot. 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: I would much rather be in there. So you got 105 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: options for foods. You can jump around get different kinds 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: of food. Sorry, I'm not trying to do a commercial 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: for Texas Live, but we do commercials for everything else. 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: It's pretty badass, honestly. Like, if you're coming to a 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: game this year, whether you live in Dallas or anywhere else, 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: it's a cool little spot to go before the game 111 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: that's going to be open, but the stadium won't be 112 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: open for years I think tears. Well, I think twenty twenty, 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: so a year and a half. Whatever. Yeah, any Stephen, 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure Stephen was brought to his attention 115 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: the whole question about safety again, I'm assuming, so any 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: different answer than what we've been here in so far. No, 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: he said, you know, we signed to he said, probably 118 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: don't expect to see Xavier Woods before this preseason's over. Maybe, 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's saying we have to allow for the 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: possibility that he's not ready for the season opener. But 121 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: that's our hope UM. And you know again, you know, 122 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: I feel like people expect us as reporters to just 123 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: hammer him with questions about Earl Thomas, but he can't. 124 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Even if we did, he he can't. And you know 125 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: there's some off the record conversations that happen when those 126 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: types of things go down. But uh there he's he 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: can't talk about that. There's been no progress in that, UM, 128 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: but he did. You know, in those type of situations, 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: he does allow that. You know, you're always looking at 130 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at ways to improve your team. I mean, 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: he says talent acquisition is three hundred and sixty five 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: days a year. I think he says that three hundred 133 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year. I really think, you know, 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: I think we've all we've covered the Earl Thomas thing 135 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: enough that, yeah, we know that it's out there. It's 136 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: certainly not impossible. But other than that, I don't know 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: what to tell you, but I think this team is 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: going to be looking for ways to address that between 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: now and roster cuts. I think, you know, that's a 140 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: prime spot where I think maybe you trade a six 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: or seventh round pick for a guy if you see 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: something you like or you sign. You know, if a 143 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: team parts ways with a veteran for money reasons or something, 144 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: maybe you pick him up. I do think they're going 145 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: to be looking at that. But for the time being, 146 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: this is it. It sounds like they're going to hold 147 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: tight with what they've done here and hope that Woods 148 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: can be back sooner rather than later. Yeah, and moving 149 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: on from that. Travis Frederick, he's a guy that has 150 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: been out of practice for a little bit and at 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: training camp went with disgusting asnar. He went to LA 152 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: to visit especialist. He's been having the stings is while 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: you guys calling stingers on his neck. Anyways, Joe Looney 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: has stepped in. He's done a great job. The Cowboys 155 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: brought in and you guys to kind of ease the 156 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: load on Looney. But in the meantime, Travis, we come 157 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: back here now we hear that he's still getting some 158 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: work done or like getting some work done analyzed. How 159 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: big the issue is and when he last time talked, 160 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it sounded like it wasn't a big deal and it's 161 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: just like, oh, precautionary, I just need to rest. Does 162 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: these new reports of just doing different exams concern. You guys, 163 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: I get more and more worried as the days go by. 164 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: You know, the first I was like, okay, whatever, he's 165 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: getting a second opinion. People do that all the time. 166 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: But this is day three where people have kind of 167 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: been talking and asking about this, and the Cowboys don't 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: have any firm answers. Stephen said this morning, he said 169 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: he's still getting evaluated. I don't want to comment on 170 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: it until we've heard that. He did say he's hoping 171 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: that they get closure on this today. He said, maybe 172 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: by later today we'll have, you know, some information that 173 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: we can share. You know, people have asked Jason Garrett, 174 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: They've asked Stephen. I think they've asked asked Jerry too, 175 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, a surgery something and just no comment. Obviously 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: it's a medical thing that's not surprising. But I mean 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: until kind of like Zach Martin, you know, they said 178 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: on Saturday night, we think he's gonna be okay. Well 179 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: that's great, but I'd like some concrete confirmation that that's true. 180 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I am with Frederick right now. 181 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I will say this though, I'm concerned about just anytime 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: something like this lingers where you don't really know. There's 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: still that possibility that it could be something worse than 184 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: it is, but I think when you consider the totality 185 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: of what you have at the backup position, I think 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: this is actually one of the positions on this team, 187 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: and they're on a whole lot of them, but I 188 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: think this is one of the positions on this team 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: where I feel pretty good about the backup. He's not 190 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick, but I feel pretty good that if he's 191 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: surrounded by the guys they have on that line and 192 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: the rest of that line's intact, I feel pretty good 193 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: about what Joe Looney can do. The part worries you 194 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: is you've now taken your swing guard and your backup center, 195 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: and he's now a starter, which means if any one 196 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: of those three positions goes down, you're in trouble. And 197 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: that's the part that worries me way more than if 198 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I gotta go with Looney for a bit without instead 199 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: of Travis Frederick, Well and Psych Martin. He's expected to 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: be back for the first home season. I can't even 201 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: say that word season opener, home season opener game. There 202 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: he goes season opener. He's expected to be back, so Nick, 203 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: how much that does that concern you? Now that if 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: you did have Travis Frederick Allen, let's say Zach is 205 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: not ready by that first week, now you got two starters. Yeah, yeah, 206 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: that's a loss. I think, you know for the game 207 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: if you if you go to Carolina and you don't 208 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: have Zach Martin or Travis Frederick, I think you just 209 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: start off and one for the season, um and got 210 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: some studs on that line up there. It would be 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: really a tough game because he does. You know, what 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: you count on for this team is to be able 213 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: to run the ball, be able to be you talk 214 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: about Dak friendly, that's not very friendly for your quarterback 215 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: because so you're gonna sit him that game, Like you 216 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: just be like, I don't even want to throw him out. 217 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting for that game. And I don't know 218 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be sitting for this this next game 219 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: actually know which I know Dave would be excited to hear. 220 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: But we said that's that's something else Stephen talked about 221 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: that we can get let's talk about that in a second. 222 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: But I just think you know from a line for 223 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: the line calls, uh, you know that that's something that 224 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: goes unnoticed sometimes. I think Frederick does a great job. 225 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: I think Zack Martin would take that over if Frederick. UM, 226 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: not to say Looney can't do it, but if you 227 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: lose both those guys, that would be tough right there. 228 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: I don't I mean, because you're talking about signing people, 229 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna affect your roster because you have to sign 230 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: or keep more people just for that. Joe Looney has 231 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: looked really good. He's had a great preseason. I feel 232 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: great about him. Um, I would feel good if he 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: had to step in because Travis twisted his ankle or something. 234 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go with you because and and 235 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: this purely speculation on my part. I want to make 236 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: that clear. But like you're talking about neurological stuff here 237 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: with the stingers like his this is if if he 238 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: misses time because of this, I don't think it's going 239 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: to be a couple of games. Well he like it. 240 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: Just that sounds like a big deal to me, Like 241 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: when you're talking about your neck and your spine and 242 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: you're I mean, I've had stingers and I'm just saying 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: it's that that's one of those things that it's just 244 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: rest and everybody's bodies different what I've been told, and 245 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: so it just's my point though, is it was it 246 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: was stingers on Wednesday of last week when we were 247 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: out in LA and now we're on day four of 248 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Travis Watch. Like if if something more is coming out 249 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: of this, then I again speculation on my part. It 250 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: sounds more serious than stingers. It sounds like you're saying 251 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: you think that it could be more than it. It 252 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: certainly could. I guess what I'm saying is based on 253 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: what we know at this point, which is the way 254 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: they've diagnosed or at least described it is at its stingers. 255 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: If it was purely what we know and nothing more, 256 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't still be an issue, right, you wouldn't 257 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: keep getting second This is not surprising, not true though. 258 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's true because I think when it 259 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: comes to stingers, they're not as as black and white 260 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: as you think. It's not like I tore my knee 261 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: toward the a cl on my knee. Like when you 262 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: have stingers, there's a lot of different tests you go 263 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: through to kind of figure out the severity, to figure 264 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: out like is it a specific disc and how how 265 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: you know what's causing that that problem to go from 266 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: your neck all the way down your arm. Like it's 267 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: not as simple as just a simple evaluation. Here's the 268 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: black and white of it. I get what I just 269 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. But he saw somebody who's 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: supposedly like the best at this stuff in California. And 271 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: I again, y'all know me, like, I'm a half I'm 272 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: a glass half empty person all the way. So I'm 273 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: just I'm bracing myself for it to not be great 274 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: news man, that's me. Maybe this is a Witten moment. 275 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: He didn't like what he told him, and so he's 276 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: looking for somebody else to tell them what he wants 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: to hear. Like we saw that with Jason Witten when 278 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: he had was that with the spleen. Yeah, when you 279 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: know the guy, the guy was like, yeah, you can't play, 280 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: and he's like, well, let's go talk to somebody else. 281 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: And he found somebody that would tell him, yeah, you 282 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: can't play. So this is the opposite. Though he got 283 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: good to you saying, oh, all you need to do. 284 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: And Steve Stephen Jones said this morning he's still feeling 285 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: the effects of that. He's still dealing with some symptoms, 286 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: which he hasn't practiced at this point in a week, 287 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: which that seems troubling to me. So again, I don't 288 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: know anything purely speculation. I want to make sure that's clear. 289 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be responsible, but I feel like maybe 290 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: that's just my nature, but I am bracing for them 291 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: to tell us something that's not great. Definitely, longer this 292 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: thing goes on, the more we all probably think is 293 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: something extra is happening here, just because it keeps taking 294 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: longer and longer, right, which means they're trying to figure 295 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: things out, right, right, So right Again, if it was 296 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: just cut and dry, got a stinger, you need to 297 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: rest to be fine, we wouldn't We wouldn't have talked 298 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: about this past last week. This is not a surprise 299 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: at all. If you watch him block, there's several times 300 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: when he's doing one on one and he's getting beat, 301 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: he's getting pushed back, and then all the sudden he's 302 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: not anymore. He arches his back and he kind of 303 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: just digs in and gets his bass under him and 304 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: he just kind of contorts his whole back and it 305 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: just stops. This guy thinks he's you know, Richard ashe 306 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: or somebody whoever, you know, was just making a push 307 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Antoine Woods and then just stops, and you know, and 308 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: he's been doing that for three or four years now, 309 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: and he just wondered about the lower back. But he 310 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: also was getting beat a lot more than he ever had, 311 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: And I think it kind of makes sense now that 312 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: you know he wasn't one hundred percent healthy, because he 313 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: doesn't get beat like that, especially the guys that probably 314 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: won't be in the NFL, which yeah, I mean again, 315 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see what they say when 316 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: they say it, hopefully it's by the end of today, 317 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: but it's it's something to watch. And Joe Looney has 318 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: been great, but Travis Frederick is still, you know, one 319 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: of the five or six best players on this team 320 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: for sure, and that would not be great if it 321 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: is a serious injury. Zack Martin is still pending because 322 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: he's still under recovery. Doesn't sound as major as we 323 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: thought he would be, but he's still on a waiting 324 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: status now. As far as Cole Beasley, we've been talking 325 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: at him for a long time wondering why he hasn't 326 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: been on the field and is it more than just 327 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: an injury. Blah blah blah. Now he's back. Yesterday he 328 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: did some things out of practice. He's coming back from 329 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: a growing injury. I wanted to see based on what 330 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: you guys saw so far and yesterday practice it wasn't 331 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: all that because again they're not fully pattis nothing like 332 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: training camp anymore or backing Knox nartive, which is sad, 333 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: but but he did some things and just wanted to 334 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: get a quick evaluation of him and his comeback. I 335 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: might be in the minority on this. I know he's 336 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: never been to a Pro Bowl. I know he didn't 337 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: have a great year last year, But like I lump 338 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley in that category where I'm just like, okay, 339 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: September ninth, you're going to go. You know, he looked 340 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: fine to me. I don't know. You don't need to 341 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: play in the preseason at all. Yeah, that's safe. Yes, 342 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: trick them all out. Yep, thank you, thank you for 343 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: doing that for me. Build the Dallas Cowboys dot com 344 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: website team for the preseason game rather than players, like 345 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: just keep the players in the locker room. Yeah, yeah, 346 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: all right, you know, throw Marchhie. Murnoch's not here. 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So 391 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: can you love for details? Back to the break, All right, 392 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: we are back and jumping into Rereco gathers the guy 393 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: that we also keep talking about. And now he's been 394 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: practicing with the first team offense. Oh what's going on? 395 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: So they Oh, we do we have to do? We 396 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: have to do this. I'm just saying, so thoughts on 397 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: him getting some reps in the first team offense. And 398 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: again we're getting close to the date line of when 399 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: cuts need to be made. And Rico has been one 400 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: of those guys who he has been making plays. He 401 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: has been catching the balls and at least keeping it 402 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: very intriguing for all of those and we talked about 403 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: it yesterday a lot. But yeah, put him in the 404 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: first team, go up against Caroline, I mean the Cardinals defense, 405 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Arizona's defense. Let him go in there and face guys 406 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: that are going to be in the NFL and not 407 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: out jump players that probably won't be in the league 408 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: and just put the competition up a little bit more 409 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: for him see how he does in the games. I 410 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be around him for this game, 411 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: but he'll have some some players out there that he knows. 412 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: That's what I want to jump into that real, not 413 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: to just completely derail you. We can talk about Rico, 414 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: I promise, But um, I get interesting because Stephen Jones 415 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: is the second person I've heard say this now, which is, well, 416 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, the first team played a lot more than 417 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: we thought they would on Saturday night in the first place, 418 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: like they had something. I think they said they had 419 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: twenty reps planned out for him, and they were at 420 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: like eighteen when they started that third possession, and then 421 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: they went on a sixteen play drive. So they went 422 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: well over the threshold that they had set in the 423 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: first place, because you're not going to pull him out 424 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: during a successful drive anyway. And so I wonder how 425 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: much we're gonna see these guys, especially, I mean, Zach 426 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: and Travis aren't going to play. You guys know how 427 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: I feel, But I wonder how they I mean, you 428 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: said you think Dak's gonna play a little. I think 429 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: he plays a little bit. If he does, I can't 430 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: imagine it's more than like a series or two. But 431 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what if what if Frederick doesn't 432 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: play the opener? I would like for Dak and Looney 433 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: to kind of get a few reps in together, which 434 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: they have. They got thirty nine on Saturday, I got 435 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: something the other night. Let's get some more in. Now. 436 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: Would you want to see Ezekiel Elliot? Would you expect 437 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: him to play, because this is the one game that 438 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: in the preseason her Yeah, I do, Actually, I know 439 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: I kind of want to see him too, just for 440 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. You can make a case for every 441 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean every for every guy that gets hurt in 442 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: the preseason, you can make the case. But if a 443 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: guy rushes for one hundred and fifty yards in the opener, 444 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: I guarantee, maybe you can say, well, you know, he 445 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: had a few snaps, he wasn't rusty. I mean, you 446 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: can make a case. Again, it wouldn't do It goes 447 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: along with the same thing of Dak and what's happening 448 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: in the old line. It's like, okay, do you still 449 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: want to go a little bit, just a little I 450 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: need a series or two we'll see how it goes. 451 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: Zeke is a sturdy dude too. Like it would be 452 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: one thing if we were talking about a guy that 453 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: looks like Lance Dunbar that you're like, ad, I don't know, 454 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: he's kind of slight. You didn't want to take a 455 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: few hits on him as possible. Zek's a sturdy guy. 456 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't think if you give him a series just 457 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: to get hit a little bit, like he hasn't been hit, 458 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't get hit in practice. Just give him, give 459 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: him a series, run a couple of times, and I 460 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: think it just gives him an opportunity to just kind 461 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: of experienced that feel, like getting a little and taking 462 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: a blow, getting going down, getting back up. Like, I 463 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: just think it gives gives him a little feel, gives 464 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: him a little taste before you get to the regular season. 465 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: And I understand what Dave saying, like you would be 466 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: you would be mortified if you ended up losing your 467 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: running back for the season. Knock on wood. Yeah, but 468 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: I also think this is football, and the other side 469 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: of me says, you can't run from that in football 470 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: because that's the nature of football. And I get you 471 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: know what, it makes a lot of difference if you 472 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: lose him in a regular season versus a preseason game. 473 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: But I do think giving him a couple of snaps, Yeah, 474 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: so how many, how many, how how many possessions would 475 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: you give? I'd probably give him a series. I treat 476 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: him like I treat everybody, all the starters in Week one, 477 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: So preseason, at most, he probably gets sixteen snaps or 478 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe even as few as three. Yeah, he's probably gonna 479 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: get at least two carries, anywhere from two to six carries. 480 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: So we'll say we'll just average it out and say 481 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: ten snaps, six touches, and then he's gonna sit on 482 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: his butt for two weeks. And that's gonna make this 483 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: crazy difference. No, it's not gonna make it crazy. It's 484 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: just gonna give him an opportunity to get a taste. 485 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all because guess what, guess what the 486 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: whatever reps it that you've given these rook I mean, 487 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: these vets through these last couple of weeks, it's the 488 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: same thing. Like, is that going to make a huge difference? Maybe? 489 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: Maybe not. The point is, you give him a little 490 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: taste before you get to the regular season where it counts. 491 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: The offensive line. You know, they have to work in 492 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: unison and work together, and they've got a rookie between them. 493 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: I get you don't think the running back has to 494 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: work in unison with them as well. You could just 495 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: not cut me off before I'm deals my point. They 496 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: got to do all that. The quarterback. Offensive line has 497 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: to work because brought us would say offensive line has 498 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: to work together. They got to do their thing. They 499 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: got a rookie, the quarterback deaf. He's not in a 500 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: point where yeah, see, hey, there is good. You're talking 501 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: about arguably the best running back in football, or certainly 502 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: one of them who's in his third year and has 503 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: gotten an overwhelmingly heavy workload in training camp, like they've 504 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: been working that guy. They're not given a lot of 505 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: reps to bow Scarborough and Darius Jackson, and yeah, it 506 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: could help him, but again, risk reward, risk reward, and 507 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of reward and a hell 508 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: of a lot of risk. I think I refuse to 509 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: believe that and snaps for one of the best running 510 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: backs and football is gonna make that pick of it. 511 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: Only thing we have it to judge it by is 512 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: that every year, during the preseason starters play and what 513 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: if for whatever amount of time they play, And so 514 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: the coaches, the people that evaluate this stuff professionally think 515 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: for some reason it makes a difference. Yeah, So I'm 516 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna trust that it makes some kind of difference to them. 517 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Some reps it does make a difference. It's just not 518 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: worth the risk, right well, And I mean to me, 519 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: I look at it like you guys that both run 520 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, some half marathons, right yeah. And I mean, 521 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: so that's the one thing I can kind of equate 522 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: this too, or any kind of sport where you're not 523 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: you haven't done it in a while. I would at 524 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: least want a little bit of time before it really 525 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: really counts, so you know, you don't have to run 526 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: the whole thing, obviously, but you want to run a 527 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: little bit. You don't want when as soon as it's 528 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: time to race. I haven't raced anything in a year, 529 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't run at all, And so I 530 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: think that's kind of for me mentally. I would just 531 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: be like, I got a few carries in that game 532 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: against Arizona, not any but a few where I'm not 533 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: going into Carolina and I haven't done anything since the 534 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Philly game last year, that would be my thing. It 535 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: was just just I want I want five or six. 536 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: So I'm not It's only been two weeks. It hasn't 537 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: been forty seven weeks. And even if it's not a lot, 538 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: it's just a little taste, like it's just a little 539 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: taste of taking that hit and going down and getting 540 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: back up, like that's a part of it is just 541 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of set. If he's gonna be like I told 542 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: you so, I understand it. But if I'm I'm done 543 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: saying I told you so, because I say it every 544 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: year and I'm always right, I'm always right. How's it. 545 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I was right about Romo. I approved my point. They 546 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: got lucky, but Zack Martin got hurt last weekend, Zach. 547 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: They could have lost their best player for the year. 548 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: So I'm usually right about this. But that's not the 549 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: right because every team does it, and there's still teams 550 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: that win the Super Bowl, like the team that won 551 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, they did the exact same 552 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: thing about four and one in the regular season in 553 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Week one. Since you've been I mean it's in the 554 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: last five years, they're three and two. I think they've 555 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: lost two openers every single team in the league does this. 556 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: Somebody still wins every year, so your point is not proven. 557 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: You look across the league, there are tons of teams 558 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: that go through the preseason, they play their starters. Every 559 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: team plays are started. I don't think you can make 560 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: that point without like going and breaking down how teams 561 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: use their starters. And you mean to tell me there 562 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: are teams that don't play their starters preseason. There are 563 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: teams that play them a lot less. That's not the 564 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: point because we're not saying playing a lot, we say 565 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: play him a series. You're saying they're teams that don't 566 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: play their starters in the preseason. I think you just 567 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: have to go back and see, like the top players 568 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: of guys that don't play, and what do they do? 569 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: How does how does their seasons start? I mean Emmett Smith, 570 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't think did much of anything in the preseason. 571 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: Look at look at the runner in Pittsburgh the last 572 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: couple of years. He's had a slow start because he 573 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: hadn't been in training camp and hadn't played. Well. Okay, 574 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: that's a little bit different because he's not practicing. If 575 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: Zeke was doing nothing, then I would agree with tour 576 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: coming in here. Y'all want to see Zeke and Zeke 577 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: should play against the Cardinals. Everybody, no crazy, everybody's in 578 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: on that. Keep my all pros off the field. I 579 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: think they heard exactly what you said. They're like, yeah, great, whatever, 580 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: they're all in. They're all in playing. All right, let's 581 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: move let's move on. Let's move on. Let's get into 582 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Brandy Gregory, a guy that we didn't even talk about Rico. 583 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Thank god it worked, yes, version, very good diversion and 584 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: he did that verse. We went on the whole rampage 585 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: for last ten minutes. You don't want to talk about Rico. 586 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: We can talk about Let's let's just finish him because 587 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: he's one of those players that if he if he 588 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: misses a block and the guy gets sacked, everyone in 589 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: the press box is gonna laugh. It's gonna be on 590 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: everybody's little meme on their you know, on their Twitter, 591 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: and oh, this guy's horrible. He's to be playing basketball 592 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: in Europe. That's what's gonna happen. If he catches another 593 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: touchdown pass or a touchdown pass, it's gonna be on 594 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: memes on Twitter. And this guy's the next Antonio Gates. 595 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: So he's one of those Everything that happens with him, 596 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: it's just hot and cold. It's like he's he's great. 597 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: You gotta keep him, or you gotta get rid of 598 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: this guy. You know, there's really no in between. So 599 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: but here's the part that I still go back to him, 600 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: or you and I were having this conversation a little earlier, 601 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: When you look at a guy like Dalton Schultz, Guess 602 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: what if he's out there, there's as much of a 603 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: chance that he's gonna get tossed and they're gonna get 604 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: to the quarterback as well. So I don't I don't. Really. 605 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: It would be one thing if you had a roster 606 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: of really well developed tight ends that you felt great about. 607 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case here. All of them, 608 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: to some degree, you're trying to prove something or another. 609 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Swaim is the only one that really has any experience, right, 610 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: And so I don't think it's a situation where where 611 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: you're you're really looking at this and saying, we've got 612 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: to have these other guys because they're so so much 613 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: more experience or there's so much better at this particular 614 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: thing than him. I think they all got warts and 615 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, the one thing that he does that 616 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: none of them can do is catch passes in an 617 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: athletic way that he does. And so if none of 618 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: them can do that, but they're all a little shaky blocking, yeah, 619 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: what are you really losing? And I don't mind cutting 620 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: the fourth round pick, not in this case, not in 621 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: a in a case like this, it doesn't bother me 622 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: at all because I already feel like I won. I've 623 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: got a seventh round pick that's starting. I've got an 624 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent that's going to be a backup that 625 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: I like. And I've got a sixth round pick I 626 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: took off of a basketball team that's gonna make the team. 627 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: So I feel like, yes, you kind of wasted the 628 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: resource here, but you've actually got three over here. That's that, 629 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: and that's my thought. I don't think they believe that way. 630 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: They put a lot of hard work into drafting these 631 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: I would have to see that to believe it, just 632 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: with how much they pride themselves on their draft. It's 633 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: been ten years since they drafted or twelve years since 634 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: they cut a fourth round pick. I got no way 635 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: to have four then, I just think, which I honestly 636 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I think you can do that. And 637 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: I just I feel like this guy's gonna end up. 638 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be willing to say, we'll deal with the 639 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: warts because we're gonna get some the Let's say, Carolina 640 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: is this Sunday. This Sunday is Carolina? They keep four? 641 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: Who who is your third tight end in active? Jarwin? Sorry? Yeah, 642 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: I never I never answer with what I would do. 643 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying what I think they are. Okay, Okay, I 644 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: think that, and I agree with you. I think Brian's 645 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: taught you that, Like which is which is what want 646 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: to hear to hear there's a time to offer your opinion, 647 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: but I think fans want to hear both. I think 648 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: fans want to not only know what the team, what 649 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: they think the team's going to do, but also what 650 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: your opinions are, because you guys are in a position 651 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: to give opinion. Yeah, here's the thing. I don't think 652 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: we've seen enough of Rico, Like they haven't put him 653 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: out there enough to where we can fully say, all right, 654 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: you know what, this is great, let's let's just keep 655 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: it going. Or maybe this is just what he does 656 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of this now is that going to 657 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: fill you up. Maybe not, I don't know, but they 658 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: just haven't given him yet enough time, enough playing time, 659 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: And that's what I want to see, because again, amazing athlete, 660 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: the body is incredible. As far as the position, he 661 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to make that catch that he 662 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: made last week, and if he wasn't the type of 663 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: guy that he is as big as he is. So 664 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: so you want to see sixty snaps on Sunday night. 665 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of talking about both sides of my 666 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: mouth because earlier in the week I was like, well, 667 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: you got to give those other guys options because they 668 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: need to develop as well. But I'm starting to think 669 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: you kind of need to figure out with him, and 670 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: so in this situation, you would gain way more by 671 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: giving him a full load because you're gonna have to 672 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: make a decision specifically on him. So I would be 673 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: okay with the idea of them just running him out 674 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: there for the whole game. I really would him and 675 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Schultz both, honestly, I mean, and whatever happened happens, But 676 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to put Swim and Jarwin 677 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: in that Zeke category where I don't want to see him, 678 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: But I think I need to see Schultz and ricco 679 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: more than I want to see Swim and those who 680 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: are making the team. Yeah, right, do y'all want to 681 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: see Randy? Yeah? Well, yeah, you want to see him. 682 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Brandy Gregory has one career sack. He's not Zeke Elliott, 683 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: not on that level. Coach ahead, I was going to 684 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: talk about what the coach, coach Marion he said yesterday, 685 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: or he talked about the grade that coach gave him, 686 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: which was a C minus for a guy that we 687 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of all been praising as far as man, yeah, 688 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: come back, I mean what kind of comes back I've had. 689 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of parties after a C minus. Man, 690 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, as long as what did you say? 691 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Even said like D for diploma, right, I said that 692 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: all the time, Get you degrees is what he said. 693 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I said that too, D for diploma. I 694 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: think a C minus and a guy who has shown 695 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of good things right now, given the history 696 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: that we know of him. So I don't think he 697 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: played that great in the game, which I mean he 698 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: was okay, He wasn't like a difference maker like we 699 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: saw at a practice so I can understand why. I mean, 700 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: that's a game grade. He wasn't really just pushing the 701 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: pile back every time, but it was a little bit active. 702 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: The ball got out quick, which is what you want. 703 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't think he played poorly C minus. 704 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: He would he would have had a sack if not 705 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: for a holding call on or false start start because 706 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: they called they stopped the play here he zipped right 707 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: around the corner. Yeah, But you know the interesting part 708 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: about that is I would wonder if that C minus 709 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: had anything to do with um. And I don't want 710 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: this to sound bad. Let me quantify it. Let me 711 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: qualify it effort. And what I mean by that is, 712 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, they put a lot of stock in running 713 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: to the play after you know, even if it's down 714 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: the field, everybody charging to the play, and a guy 715 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: like him that has not played a lot of football, 716 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: they may be like, hey, we need more, we need more, 717 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: and that that's a process that he's gonna have to 718 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: go through to get himself back into shape. That's the 719 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: difference between being in shape and being in football shape 720 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: is the ability to run full blast for and in play, 721 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: go back to the huddle and then do it all 722 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: over again and keep doing it over and over and 723 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: guarantee there have been guys that have had two sacks 724 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: in a game that have like a C. Yeah, that's 725 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: a great point. We don't we don't hear the grades 726 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: all the time, you know, I don't on a Scandrick 727 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: he used to do that on the other side and 728 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: say Marinelli. I guess Marinelli offered that up like he 729 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I gave him a C minus. Oh, Gregory, Okay. 730 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: That they don't like to give out the grades. They 731 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: don't like to talk about that stuff. Now. They don't 732 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: put the report card up on the media to see. 733 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: So you just see that would be every Thursday thing 734 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: like would you get I thought I wrote it would 735 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: be funny. Actually yeah, but it's fird to say. We 736 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: we've liked everything that we've seen from him so far 737 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: and out of that game, even when he wasn't necessarily 738 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: making a good play or like a play that was 739 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: significant enough, we did see him or at least I did, 740 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: running around and just taking off and maybe something that 741 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: you were pointing out, making sure that he's going after 742 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: that play, even the fact of him running after that, 743 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: I I wasn't gonna do anything because he was It 744 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna get there. But he still had the 745 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: effort to keep going for it and at least try 746 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: and rush. And he's athletic ability. He's great compared to 747 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: everybody else, like he's at the NFL football level right now. 748 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: You could talk about the grade all you want. At 749 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if the Cowboys feel comfortable 750 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: enough to basically move Tyron Crawford to defensive tackle, that 751 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about what they 752 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,959 Speaker 1: really think about where Randy Gregory is. Because I wasn't 753 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: expecting much this season. I think they expect he's going 754 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: to be able to contribute starting out the season. I 755 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: actually I wanted to talk more about that because Stephen 756 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: Jones mentioned it this morning. But if you want to 757 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: take a break first, we can. Yeah, yeah, we do that, 758 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: all right, Yes, let's go ahead and take a break. 759 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: We'll hit that and then we have a call waiting 760 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: on us and a few fan questions. Cowboys fans know 761 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: that the second best of anything simply won't cut it, 762 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: and your skincare should be no different. 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All you gotta do is go shop 812 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: Tommy John. Is that why you get the question? Yeah, 813 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: because they got nothing. It's got nothing to do with 814 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: the read you know, So do that. Thank you, Thank 815 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: you for that. All right before we got into break, 816 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: you were about to tell us something that you heard today. Yeah, no, 817 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones really kind of he dished for like fifteen 818 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: minutes today and just you know, so, we've seen Tyrone 819 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: Crawford play some tackle here in practice for the last 820 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: week or so, and I asked him because you know, 821 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: the problems that defensive tackle have been well documented. The 822 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory story has been well documented. So I asked him, 823 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: you know, is Tyrone playing tackle more about what you 824 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: don't have at tackle or is it more about what 825 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: you you have it end? And he said, you know, 826 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: it's it's really a lot about what we have it end. 827 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking about this off air 828 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: just now. Nobody could have predicted in July that Randy 829 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: Gregory would even be practicing, let alone practicing well. And 830 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: on top of that, I don't want to speak for y'all, 831 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: but you know, going back to the Dalton Schultz thing, 832 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: once you get to the fourth round, I assume you're 833 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: probably not going to contribute in a big way. You know, 834 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of where the drop off is. I was 835 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: wrong about Dorian's armstrong in that regard. I mean, he's 836 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: still got to do in the regular season, but he 837 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: looks he looks like a guy who can contribute right away. 838 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think if we go back, and 839 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: we had several questions, whether it be on here or 840 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: what the guys that you're thinking are going to impact. 841 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: And I mentioned him several times because I thought he 842 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: would push Taco Charlton to a level that would be 843 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: really good. I mean, and I think he's done that. 844 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: And I think that they've all learned from DeMarcus as well. 845 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: So I mean I thought they were gonna we were 846 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit him. Not to this level. 847 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: He's been stronger than I thought he would be as 848 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: a rookie. I mean, he's got upper body strength. You 849 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: just don't see himing into the door, which makes me 850 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: think next year he could be just a breakout player. 851 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: And well just the other Another thing Steven said, which 852 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: I think is important to note, Like people always want 853 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: it to be black and white. I don't think Tyrone 854 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: Crawford is just now an undertackle and that's all he's 855 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: gonna be. Steve's Steven said, He's probably gonna do both. 856 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: He's got the versatility to do that. He still plays 857 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: the run really well. He's still probably, I would guess, 858 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: going to be a defensive captain. I think you'll see 859 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: him play in two. But they've got two right ends 860 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: that they didn't think they had when training camp started, 861 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, why not try to get him on the 862 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: field especially, and we've seen that in practice. I think 863 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: in nickel obvious pass rushing situations, if you can put 864 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: Tyrone at three technique, that sounds pretty nice to me. 865 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: He's a captain right now, and he's done everything they've 866 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: asked him to do. If if, and when he ever 867 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 1: goes to another team and has that first interview, he'll 868 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: probably talk about the frustration of being here and what 869 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, he got his body to the point where 870 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: he is going to be a defensive end and then 871 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: these guys blow up and now he got to slide 872 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: inside and he's not. He doesn't look like a defensive tackle. 873 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: He looks like an end. So, you know, it's just 874 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: kind of been a frustrating thing for him. If his 875 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: versatility has kind of got the best at of him, 876 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: and then he's an Now he's small playing tackle and 877 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: he's not gonna you know, and all fans look at 878 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: they don't look at that number. They look at his 879 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: salary number, and I'm like, wow, where's the sacks? And 880 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: so he's in a kind of a no win situation. 881 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I'll eat some crow in that regard too, 882 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: because in the offseason we even were like, he's not 883 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: playing tackle, he can't play tackle, but he's versatile, and 884 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: then I mean, the the blunt truth of the matter 885 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: is if there's guys on the roster that look like 886 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: they can rush the passer better than you. You're gonna 887 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna get moved or sad or whatever. I mean, 888 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: that's just I mean, Randy Gregory looks the way he looks. 889 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna get to play. But you know, Stephen Jones 890 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: said this too, and to his credit, I think Tyrone 891 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: Crawford just cares about winning games and contributing to a 892 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: He's a great teammate. Oh he's he's And that's the 893 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: reason why they can do this with him, because that 894 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: not every player would be as amenable to something like this. 895 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: You need guys like that. And yeah, I mean he's 896 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: gonna get killed because you would prefer his salary to 897 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: be a little bit lower. But yeah, he's got none 898 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: of but good stuff to say. So all those other 899 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: qualities are important off the field as well. And Ken, 900 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: do we still have Nigel on the line? We do? 901 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: Les go ahead, Nigel. Hey, guys, how are you hey? 902 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: Just taking the call? You know, Nick, I gotta tell 903 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: you now, I'm starting to realize why Vince Vaughan blew 904 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: you off at the bow a couple of years ago. 905 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: No boot chat. Yeah, he's a little you know, thinking 906 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: you're a little negative on our boys. But hey, look, 907 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: this is gonna bother you. But I've been to hold 908 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: him for a while. This I just want to touch 909 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: base on a couple of things. Rico gathers. I know 910 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna kill you, probably rolling your eyes right now. 911 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: And Cooper Rush. The first thing with Rico in my opinion, 912 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, I've been out to the practices. I've been 913 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: watching him for the last two years. And some guys, 914 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: you know Alan Iverson didn't like to practice. Some guys 915 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: don't show up at practice like they show up at 916 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: game time. And in my opinion, which probably means nothing anyone, 917 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: when I watched Rico, he can post up and with 918 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: today's cornerbacks that they're rarely looking at the ball. They're 919 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: always chasing the receiver down the field. Nobody's eye on 920 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: eye on the ball anymore, pretty much, and he sets 921 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: himself up just to make plays. I think he's a gamer, 922 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: and I hope to God he proves that to you 923 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: this week. And that's my sewing out. The other is Cooper. 924 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a stud man. He hasn't thrown a 925 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: pick once, and he's just been put in horrible situations 926 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: like last week's game. He had no chance. I mean, 927 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't care who you put in. Guy had no chance. 928 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: So those are my points. I'm sticking to it. I 929 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: hope Cooper has a great game, and yeah, Zeke, I 930 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: think they all I think they all need to play 931 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: a quarter. Can't knew what he means everything, no matter 932 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: how good you are, you know, all right, thanks for 933 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: the call. I'm not. I don't think he said anything 934 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: that Nick would disagree with. Honestly, I don't know. I 935 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: don't know where they came from about being negative and 936 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: being negative. Thought I was the negative guy. That guy 937 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: was cool. I don't. I'm like he was delivering that 938 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: as though he had controversial opinions. I don't. Yeah, I 939 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: think Rico should make the team. That's think he will 940 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: make the team. That's what Rico does well. I don't 941 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: think Cooper Rush is a stud, but yeah, I think 942 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: he kind of overstated that a bit. I see, he 943 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: hasn't done enough for me to say he's a stud. 944 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: I think he's a developing player. There's been some things 945 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: I liked that scene from him. There have been some 946 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: things I was like, hey, I'm a little ambivalent on 947 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I most of most of them. Cooper Rush's 948 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: struggles I would attribute to the people around him more 949 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: than his own ability. But yeah, everything, Sorry, I was 950 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: just gonna say, I think I've seen good enough things 951 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: coming from him already being at a bad situation that 952 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: I would expect him to be a lot better when 953 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: put like with the offensive line, the first team and 954 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: all that, if needed. That's why when when we talk 955 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: about bringing in a veteran guy or whatever. Last game, 956 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that was pretty bad. That was not good, 957 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: and it made me think, man, maybe we do need 958 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: to bring someone in here. But you have to take 959 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: into account that he's not put with the right guys 960 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: on the field that can help him and allow him 961 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 1: to perform at a better level. And that only goes 962 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 1: so far. I mean, I remember twenty fourteen, this team 963 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: was rolling and Romo goes down, Brandon Wheaton comes in 964 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that has three All pros, and 965 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: they lost two games. And so you know, it's always 966 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: was the case with him at Smith as well. You know, 967 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 1: the guy mattered, as Garrett would say, the runner matters 968 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: and the quarterback matters, and so but I think you're right, 969 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, He's come in. He's done a nice job 970 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: every time he gets the chance. For the most part, 971 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: I think he's your backup quarterback, unless Mike White can 972 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: can change your opinion, but I think he's your he's 973 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. I gotta see it to believe that 974 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna like hold the hold the rope if Dak 975 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: goes down, you know, like I'm not. Yeah, if Dad 976 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: goes down for an extended period of time, I think 977 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: they're probably screwed. But maybe I'm wrong. But that's just 978 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: how I feel right now. But he's been he's been 979 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: adequate for now. Here's a question from Twitter who has 980 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: been the bigger or the biggest disappointment this camp between 981 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: Cony Eally and Hot War And we were talking about 982 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: that in the press box at practice last night and 983 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: we have the same answer. We did have the same answer. 984 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: It was not a pass rusher um between those two 985 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: that I would say Cony Eally for me, is it 986 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: because of expectations? Probably? I mean, but but what were 987 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: your expectations? But the Jets cut him, So if the 988 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: Jets and it didn't feel like he was a good player, 989 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, well, that's I think for me. At least, 990 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know a lot about jihad Ward coming in 991 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: the door. I knew a bit more about Cony Ealy, 992 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: so my expectations maybe were a little higher, knowing where 993 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: he was drafted and that at some point somebody thought 994 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: he could play it that lay. Did you not end 995 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: up hearing more about Jihatward towards the middle? Yeah? I think. 996 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean those things kind of tend to show or 997 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: like show a lot more who's doing better. Because when 998 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 1: you start hearing from a guy that you've never really 999 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: heard of before and now you're hearing his name constantly, 1000 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: then that's a good thing, right. I guess I'll probably 1001 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: say Eali again. You know his career hasn't panned out 1002 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: that way, but you had the hope that he could 1003 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: become that guy that had three sacks in the Super Bowl. 1004 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: Jihad Ward, there's a chance he doesn't make this team, 1005 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: and I'll I'll do that deal again because that's why 1006 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin's here, And that's how good I feel about 1007 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. I mean, I know, you know he it's 1008 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: a separate trade, but they don't trade Ryan Switzer away 1009 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: if they never get Tavon Austin, So I'll gladly do 1010 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: that whole thing again, even if I get even I 1011 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: mean yeah, literally when that happened, you know, the word 1012 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: going around this building was like the Raiders drafted him 1013 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: too high. We liked him at the Senior Bowl, we thought, 1014 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, we'll just see what we got. Like. 1015 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: It's not like they were like, this is our undertackle 1016 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: of the future. Like that's not the type of stuff 1017 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: you're doing on a day three trade anyway, So probably 1018 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: Elie okay. And we haven't really hit on Dan Bailey 1019 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: again since we've been back, and last time to last 1020 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: time we talked about him, it was still kind of 1021 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 1: a concern. So here's a question. Has Dan bailey recent 1022 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: success in practice in games relieved some of our concerns? Yeah? 1023 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: But what let me let me back a little bit, 1024 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: because I don't think the last time we talked about this, 1025 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was concerned yet. I don't think 1026 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: that's who we were. I was. I wasn't ye are 1027 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: you kidding me? No? I think what we said was right. 1028 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: Now We're keep being an eye oh yeah, just keeping 1029 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: an eye on it. Want to see what happens, but 1030 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: not concerned. You're keeping an eye. You're concern because, oh, 1031 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: you just like want to see if you go to 1032 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: a point where you need to be concerned. Go back 1033 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: and listen to that show she's talking about. We sound 1034 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of all right. I didn't remember like that. I'm wrong. 1035 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: Just it comes down to the regular season, Like his 1036 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: second miss. When is his second miss of the season. 1037 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: Is it halfway through the year? No big deal? Is 1038 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: it the first game? Is it the second game? And 1039 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, So when he gets to the second miss, 1040 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: where are we in the season? And then that's what 1041 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean. He can make every kick from now on, 1042 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: but I guarantee if he misses a twenty eight yard 1043 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: field goal in Carolina, there'll be some talk. You're absolutely right, 1044 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. But he had four misses in 1045 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: three days and that's when we had that conversation. And 1046 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: since then he has missed one kick in two weeks 1047 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: and he made in a game. So you're, of course 1048 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: if he's If he struggles in the regular season, then 1049 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: it's a completely different conversation. But my the hackles on 1050 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: my neck. We're standing up and I've seen enough that 1051 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of back to It's like, all right, he's fine. 1052 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 1: Best kicker in the NFL right now, it's probably justin Tucker, 1053 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: right he misses hess. I think he's the all time 1054 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: leading statistically, he's the best. He beat Bailey from it 1055 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: started the season, it was Bailey. But if Tucker misses 1056 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: three kicks in the first three weeks of the season, 1057 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore is going to be looking at what They're going 1058 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: to be a little concerned. Yeah, that's just the nature 1059 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: of the business. And that's that's kicker. Yeah, that's just 1060 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 1: what it is. No other and it's it sucks because 1061 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 1: it's no other position is like that really, no baby 1062 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: punter specialists based like you don't need to know the 1063 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: system of how we do things here. The ball just 1064 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: sits there and you kick it there a ton of 1065 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: There are a ton of average guys available to you 1066 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: at any given moment, right So it's I mean, you know, 1067 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: we talk about Mike White like you can cut a 1068 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 1: fifth round pick, but it's different with a quarterback. Well 1069 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: you can, you know, doing something seventy five percent at 1070 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: the time. Him is great at every other position, But kicker, 1071 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: like that just the way it goes does seventy five sucks? Yes, 1072 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: that's horrible. Well, at least seeing him get that kick 1073 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: and make it in during a game. Although it's preseason, 1074 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: it's still a game environment. It gave me personally a 1075 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: little bit of relief because we talked about the mental 1076 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: aspect of things and being writing the game and not 1077 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: letting that his conscious or mental things affect him as 1078 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: far as kicking. So I'm feeling good about Dan Bailey. 1079 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: Always have been, always will be, and I never doubt 1080 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: Dan Bailey is on my desk, A picture of him 1081 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: is on my desk. Yeah, all right, who do you 1082 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: guys think will be the eighth guy to make the 1083 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: team on the old line? Is he here yet? Nope? 1084 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: That was simple. I think I think you're gonna have 1085 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: to have nine make the team, Yeah, because I don't. Yeah, 1086 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: I think the eighth guys well, don't I think? No, 1087 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: I don't think the eighth guys here. I think the ninth. 1088 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: I can agree with that, and I think that they'll 1089 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,760 Speaker 1: they'll sign someone a little bit better. If Travis Frederick 1090 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: is not ready to play, I think you're gonna have 1091 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: to keep his spot open and then have to sign 1092 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: somebody else to practice and do all that stuff. So 1093 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: I think you keep nine. I think you get a 1094 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: center who will probably be a game day guy. Well, 1095 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, Kidney will probably be a game day player 1096 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: as well. You have to go along there. Yeah, because 1097 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: if Looney starts, the beauty of having him is that 1098 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: he is a backup to three spots. I don't know 1099 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get that back up to three spots. Well, 1100 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: but I think the way I look at it, at 1101 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: least I would think between Looney and um and seventy five, 1102 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: you got two guys. Fleming, you got two guys. Dad. 1103 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: Let's say Frederick doesn't play Looney. Yes, if Frederick doesn't 1104 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 1: push your backup guard Edwards, who's your backup center? So 1105 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: that's that's that's my right now right now. Do they 1106 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: have a backup center on this team outside of of 1107 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that a camp body or is that 1108 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: somebody that you think legitimately is going to be unprobably 1109 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: talking about Monday, But yeah, well that's it' that's a 1110 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: tough thing to answer right now. Like with Travis frederick'sself 1111 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: up in the air, if we assume that Travis Frederick 1112 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: can play, I think Kadeem at least makes the initial 1113 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: cut and then maybe they try to swap him out. 1114 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: But it's weird how a Travis Frederick injury can affect 1115 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: the tight end spot, can tect affect the last defensive back, 1116 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: quarterback quarter eight. Yeah, it affects all that because that 1117 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: is a center spot you have to keep open. Obviously, 1118 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: we talk. I mean it's and don't get me wrong, 1119 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm not talking down on it, but like we talk, 1120 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: so the fifty three man projection, what's the final roster, 1121 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: Like it's gonna last for twelve hours and it'll change 1122 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: again after the first game because somebody will get hurt, 1123 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: and like the fifty three never lasts longer than like 1124 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. It's just constantly changing. So all right, 1125 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: I think that's all the time we have for today. 1126 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in once again on 1127 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: Cowboy's Break for Nickimman, Derek Eagles, and David Hellman and Imburger. 1128 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: See and this was Cowboys Break on Dallas Cowboys dot 1129 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: Com Radio Radio