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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October fourth, twenty twenty one, season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirty three. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star, and today we get to talk about another

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Speaker 1: win for the Cowboys. Cowboys beat Carolina Panthers thirty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight in a game that had a lot of

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Speaker 1: different parts of it. In the early parts of the game,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty close. Cowboys then took a big lead

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Speaker 1: then and they started to see it dwindle a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously they pull out the win at the end.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna give you give you guys an idea

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Speaker 1: of what we thought of that game. There were lots

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Speaker 1: of things too, things to discuss. Let's start first with

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Speaker 1: a big picture. What's the big picture story of this game?

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Speaker 1: As we do every Monday. Let's start first with you, Nick.

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Speaker 1: They they won when they needed to, they needed to

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Speaker 1: get in the third quarter, and in this game, I

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Speaker 1: felt like was slipping away a little bit at halftime.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a good feeling about it, and they

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Speaker 1: just kind of they Yeah, I didn't think they're winning.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they I didn't think they were gonna

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Speaker 1: win it. And then they just exploded and just did

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Speaker 1: what good teams do. They just kind of figure out

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Speaker 1: ways to adjust and go in there and one, you know,

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Speaker 1: they won the game. And you know, I thought I

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Speaker 1: thought it was it was a close, one score game,

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Speaker 1: that's what it ended up being. But I mean I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a game against a good physical football team,

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Speaker 1: and they they were better than them. I guess if

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Speaker 1: you're talking big picture all seventeen games, I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're supposed to do with this offense.

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Speaker 1: That's the big thing for me. Other teams in a

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Speaker 1: good way. I just week by week, they just keep

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Speaker 1: stacking ways that they can beat you. And yeah, obviously

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Speaker 1: the ground game fueled it all this week, but the

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Speaker 1: way that they played off it as well, and it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: I know, Michael Gallups hurt, so that changes things. But

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore loves him some twelve personnel man and it works.

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Speaker 1: They ran for two hundred and forty five yards in

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Speaker 1: this game or was it fifty five? Either way, a

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Speaker 1: boatload of yards and a big PI. And then the

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Speaker 1: reason I brought up twelve personnel is Dalton Schultz and

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Speaker 1: in the blocking game. I don't think they're so good

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Speaker 1: then that opens up so many other things. Jarwin gets

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Speaker 1: in the end zone for the first time this season,

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Speaker 1: Schultz with another touchdown. Just the way that you can

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Speaker 1: play off of those things, and just week by week,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are showing you eighteen different ways they can

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Speaker 1: beat you. They can sling it around with the best

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Speaker 1: of them, especially when Gallup comes back. They've got two

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Speaker 1: tight ends who help in the running and passing game.

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Speaker 1: They've got a quarterback who knows how to spread it

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Speaker 1: they've got the best one two running back duo in

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Speaker 1: Zeke and Tony Pollard are playing on another level right now,

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Speaker 1: and so when you think about the big picture and

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Speaker 1: And I think that the story of that game when

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Speaker 1: it is the running game obviously, two undred forty five yards.

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Speaker 1: what we saw, Yester. Yeah, that's exactly what we saw.

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Speaker 1: There were quite a few of those I've got a

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this. The passing game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they didn't need to do a lot. Dak was

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Speaker 1: He had four touchdowns, no interceptions, and this was the

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Speaker 1: They come and get the quarterback. That's what to predicate on.

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Speaker 1: In the first series, we saw them being really aggressive

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Speaker 1: I just didn't see him around Dak a ton once

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Speaker 1: once that game kept going. How ironic is that the

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Speaker 1: That looked like a sack all the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. Not to mention well, I mean it worked out,

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Speaker 1: very disastrous. It really it felt like their pressure was

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Speaker 1: Jenkins had nine, Tredavious White, Anthony Harrison, Stefan Gilmour had

426
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Speaker 1: six for the season. That's the top five league lead.

427
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Speaker 1: So he's got He has a Pro Bowl resume after

428
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Speaker 1: four weeks. That's not an exaggeration. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't know what else to say,

430
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Speaker 1: and I mainly I kind of said this tongue in

431
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Speaker 1: cheek yesterday, but I'm serious, like Jordan Lewis and Anthony

432
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: Brown should probably spend some time with the jugs machine

433
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna stop throwing at him. Why why would

434
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Speaker 1: you keep doing it? Especially you think who's on the

435
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Speaker 1: schedule upcoming? You got a rookie quarterback on the horizon

436
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Speaker 1: and Mac Jones's he's captain checkdown right now, which he

437
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: probably should be. He's a rookie, um Daniel Jones, and

438
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: he had a great game yesterday, had a great game yesterday,

439
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: but still not somebody who probably wants to definitely throw

440
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Speaker 1: it away at times. Yeah, okay, Kirk Cousins is pretty good.

441
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think, but you're not playing like

442
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Speaker 1: a murderer's row of quarterbacks up until you get to

443
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Speaker 1: my homes. So I would stop throwing at the guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want him too, but that's what

445
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Speaker 1: I would do if I were game planning for this defense.

446
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Speaker 1: What makes it hard? But I'm saying that's what's that

447
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: sounds good? But then what I was talking about with

448
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: that first interception they're played like a zone coverage there

449
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: he was kind of right in the middle of the

450
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Speaker 1: field and just I mean, so it's not necessarily just

451
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Speaker 1: him lucking down his guy the whole time. YEP, I

452
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: agree with that. But also what makes it difficult in

453
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Speaker 1: this instance is opponents want to be able to throw

454
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Speaker 1: at their top wide receiver, and if he's on your

455
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Speaker 1: top wide receiver most of the day, that means you're

456
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Speaker 1: basically saying we're not going to go to our top

457
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. And some teams don't have that luxury, you know.

458
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Speaker 1: You look at the Cowboys, they got a lot of options.

459
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Speaker 1: A lot of teams don't have those kinds of options.

460
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Speaker 1: So if you say I'm going to take away your

461
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Speaker 1: top receiver for a lot of teams, that kills their

462
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Speaker 1: offense and what they wanted to do. Which is funny.

463
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Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to watch it back, but

464
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Speaker 1: I assume Treyvon covered Dj Moore a lot. DJ Moore

465
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: had a wonderful day, Yeah, he did, which his second

466
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Speaker 1: touchdown was when Trayvon came off the field with his

467
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: back tightness, which I'm sure we'll talk about, but he

468
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: Dj Moore had some success even against Treyvon Diggs. But

469
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Speaker 1: what's fun is if you can get me one or

470
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Speaker 1: two of those plays a game. I mean, it's a

471
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Speaker 1: big ask, but I'll take that all day. Same thing.

472
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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen statistically had a pretty damn good day, but

473
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Speaker 1: we don't. It didn't read that way because Trayvon Diggs

474
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Speaker 1: was able to take the ball away, get it back

475
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Speaker 1: to the offense and limited him from scoring and doing

476
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Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy damage. So it's it's hidden a

477
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Speaker 1: little bit, but when you weigh it, I'll take that

478
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Speaker 1: all day if you tell me Trayvon Diggs can get

479
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Speaker 1: the ball back, like yeah, Look, the game is built

480
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Speaker 1: for cornerbacks to lose, like this is not the day

481
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: of Dion Sanders, where he could do a lot of

482
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Speaker 1: things back in the day that defensive backs just can't

483
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: do anymore, and so this game is built so that

484
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: cornerbacks will lose. I want a cornerback that, yeah, you're

485
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna lose some, but give me some big wins. And

486
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: that's what he does. He gets you the big wins

487
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Speaker 1: even though he's gonna lose some, which every cornerback in

488
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: the league is gonna lose some, because that's how the

489
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Speaker 1: game is structured. Let's talk a little bit about the

490
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Speaker 1: five sacks that the Cowboys had yesterday. Gregory had two

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah Parsons bash him, Gholston and no DIGGI Zooa both

492
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 1: had half a sack. What was the key to their

493
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Speaker 1: pressure against this team? I have no choice but to

494
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Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to Dan Quinn And I

495
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: think something Randy said yesterday really stuck with me, which

496
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Speaker 1: was and this goes without saying based on what we've seen,

497
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: he's like, Yeah, Dan knows where to put guys to

498
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: give them the best chance to succeed. And when I

499
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Speaker 1: wrote about this last night shameless plug, you can go

500
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: read it. For them to be without everything that they're

501
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Speaker 1: without in the front seven and get and we know

502
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: Carolina's offensive line is not amazing, it's not you know,

503
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Speaker 1: I get that they'll play better offensive lines, but for

504
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: them to dial up pressure like this with a couple

505
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: of rookies at three rookies all playing their first month

506
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Speaker 1: of the season, a journeyman like Terrell Basham, Randy Gregory's

507
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: a good player, but again, we probably overvalue the guys

508
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Speaker 1: that we cover. Nobody, Nobody thinks of Randy Gregory as

509
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Speaker 1: an all Pro caliber guy around the league, and for

510
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: them to dial all that up without stalwarts, I guess,

511
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: and just having guys coming from this that in every

512
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Speaker 1: direction you see them running games. You pointed out it

513
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: was Mica that really blew that play up that allowed

514
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Speaker 1: Osa and Gholston to come in. I think that's just

515
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Speaker 1: impressive scheming by Dan Quinn. I'm excited to go back

516
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Speaker 1: and take a closer look at what they did. Yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: and I think that you know, it's only going to

518
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: get a little bit better now. You know. You know

519
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be set back, there's gonna be injuries,

520
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: there's going to be you know, things that happened. That's

521
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: part of the league. But you know, to think that

522
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Speaker 1: the success they're having on defense and without their their

523
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Speaker 1: best player, really, I mean, I think he's their best player.

524
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: He was the best he was. He's I don't know

525
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: if he still is losing grounds well, but he's he's

526
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: losing ground and he's probably not losing much as a

527
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Speaker 1: player either, you know what I mean? Right, Yeah, I

528
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: mean he looked at the Marcus Lawrence we're talking about it,

529
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Speaker 1: and he had you know, he looked like he was

530
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Speaker 1: in great shape, and he had a good game that

531
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Speaker 1: first game. Then he gets hurt, you know, in practice

532
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: of the next week. So he expect him to be back,

533
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: expect Neville Gallimore to be back. Um, I don't know

534
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: about expecting anything with Tristan Hill, but he's you know,

535
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: he's still here and he should be back at some point.

536
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph is getting close to coming back. Now, I

537
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: don't know. He doesn't jump right in and you know,

538
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: jump over Anthony Brown, who, by the way, had had

539
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: a really nice game. Yeah, he dropped a pass right right,

540
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean he dropped it pass for an interception, which,

541
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: as you as we've said on this show, it's it's

542
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: the difference between you know, being the player of the

543
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: month and being just a good, solid cornerback, right Anthony Brown.

544
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Speaker 1: But I mean I like the fact that he's jumping around,

545
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: he's in position, he's playing pretty well. I thought he

546
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: played great yesterday. It's a it stings that he dropped

547
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Speaker 1: what I mean, that's a that's a that's about as

548
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: easy a pick as you're gonna get. It would have

549
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: been his second or third, second, second one last week. Yeah,

550
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: um that but he played a really nice game. He

551
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: had a few breakups, he was good in coverage. It's

552
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: it was good. It's the pressure though. To me, it's

553
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: the pressure that's getting there that's allowing these guys to

554
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: play with their eyes, jump in front of routes and

555
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's also the safety help too

556
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: and trusting those guys back there. I think, you know,

557
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Casey's done done a good job. I mean, they it's

558
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Speaker 1: just it's fun. It's a it's a fun it's a

559
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: fun time. But I really believe it's the pass rush

560
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: and it's a guy like Parsons who is just lining

561
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: up everywhere. Yesterday was the one example of him probably

562
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Speaker 1: doing as like almost fifty fifty. It felt like it

563
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: was the most versatile he's been this year because Week

564
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Speaker 1: one he was all linebacker, then he was all edge

565
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: and he was definitely bouncing around yesterday. Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. Yep. The the interesting thought that I

567
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: had though after the game, that'd be interested to get

568
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: you guys's opinion. They still gave up twenty eight points,

569
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Speaker 1: and as you said, d J. Moore had a really

570
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: good day. There were moments in that game that it

571
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: didn't look great for the Cowboys. What do you think

572
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: was the biggest challenge that the Cowboys defense faced yesterday?

573
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Speaker 1: And in giving up the points in the yards that

574
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: they gave up. I think they underestimated Sam Darnold's the

575
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: ability to run. I think that that helped them. That

576
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: helped early on, and then they kind of button that

577
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: up in the second half. But um, you know, I

578
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: thought you but Hubbard did a nice job for them.

579
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: But you know, let's let's be on. If we're gonna

580
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: sit here and say these guys that the Cowboys are

581
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: missing d Law and Keane O'Neill and Gallimore, let's not

582
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: forget the All Pro player that Christian McCaffrey is. Yeah,

583
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: and then and they they certainly missed him. You think

584
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: that's a different game yesterday if ki Christian McAffrey play,

585
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I can't say that it wouldn't be. I mean, yeah,

586
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: I think it is. It was an eight point game.

587
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: He he's a really good player because he helps them

588
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: get off the field. I mean, like on third and

589
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: downs and stuff like that. He can That's what I

590
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: was about to say. They so they killed them on

591
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: third down, well, particularly in the first half. Yeah, I

592
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: think they were four of six. Credit to the Cowboys.

593
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: They buttoned down and I think they went oh of

594
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: six their first six opportunities in the third quarter or

595
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: second half. But Christian McCaffrey is exactly the type of

596
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: player that murders you on third down and so running

597
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: in catching. Yeah, so I think it's I think it's

598
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: fair to say it's a different game, more more so

599
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: than to say, well, d Law was out there, you know.

600
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe we're burying the lead a little bit

601
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: here too, because a big part of that was just

602
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: a bizarre fourth quarter, right, Like the way the fourth

603
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: quarter played out changed probably everything about the way you

604
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: thought about that game. We joked about it again yesterday.

605
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: You were like, time to write star, time to just

606
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: start writing that story. Dave. It's whatever. The score was

607
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: thirty six to fourteen, and then all of a sudden

608
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: they score, and I'm like, don't just don't say that

609
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: stuff anymore. Oh this second for me? Yeah, they I

610
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: mean Zeke said it himself. They I mean they let

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00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: him off the mat. They didn't they had a chance.

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Speaker 1: He was we thought they were. He was full of

613
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: he was full of good quotes. Yesterday he was like,

614
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I want to see us choke somebody out and they did.

615
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: They had that opportunity and they didn't yesterday. And I said,

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Speaker 1: it's bizarre because I pulled this up to make sure

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Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. Mike McCarthy said, Treyvon Diggs could have

618
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: returned to that game if he needed to. That is

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Speaker 1: a great tease. We're gonna take off final break and

620
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna lead into the decisions

621
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Speaker 1: made by the head coach yesterday. There were several that

622
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: we need to talk about in that being one of

623
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Speaker 1: them and pulling him and whether he should have come

624
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: out or not. We'll talk about that. We'll come right back.

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Speaker 1: studios at the Star. So we got to talk about

669
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: the coaching decisions from yesterday. It was I saw another

670
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: employee as I was leaving the stadium yesterday and he

671
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't know if I've ever seen

672
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: a coach be getting killed as much as less. This

673
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: coach is getting killed after a win. But you could

674
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: just feel it on social media. People were unhappy with

675
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the decisions. It wasn't just one. There

676
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: were multiple decisions that were made yesterday that fans just

677
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: thought were bad decisions. And so let's go through some

678
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: of those. I want to get your opinions on them.

679
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: I've been talking about Treyvon Diggs. Obviously, he was having

680
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: a phenomenal game, had two interceptions. After the second interception,

681
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys score a touchdown and then defense comes back

682
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: on the field and Trayvon's not there and he's not

683
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: there for the rest of the fourth quarter. What was

684
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: the rationale that that coach McCarthy gave after the game

685
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: or take us back, what was the ration now in

686
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: game that we heard, and then what was the rational

687
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: that he gave after the game as to watch Travlon

688
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: was out of the game. Well, I honestly think those

689
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: are kind of one and the same. The explanation we

690
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: got in the press box was load management, right, which

691
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: was he's not hurt, but they're they're resting him, they're

692
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: dealing with him, and then after the game they say

693
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: he has back tightness, which is okay, So there is

694
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: a health concern. And I don't like to speculate too

695
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: much about people's health. But the money quote from the

696
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: head coach of the team, I'm reading it verbatim. He

697
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: could have returned. He could have returned in the game

698
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: if needed to. I know it was something. I think

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00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: he got a cleat on it. He got stepped on

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Speaker 1: at some point. But if so, he could have returned.

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00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: That's really that's all I need to hear. So that's

702
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: that's interesting, And it just makes me wonder if maybe

703
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: they got a little bit ahead of themselves and thought

704
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: that this thing was wrapped up with what twelve minutes

705
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes to play in the game. Well, although it

706
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: got close, was it? I mean, they ultimately ended up winning,

707
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: So was it still the right decisie? Right? That's that's

708
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of like when you play a prevent defense

709
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: you give up touchdowns. It's like the idea is to

710
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: make sure that you don't score quickly, and do you

711
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: have time times on your on your side here? And

712
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean they did, they did do what

713
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: they needed to do to win the game. Now, we

714
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: haven't seen this team run the ball out for four

715
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: minutes like that very often, So I mean, you got

716
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: to give him credit for that. That's not something we

717
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: had seen. You're playing a little too risky. But I

718
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't, I don't. If you do load management,

719
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: it means that the guy has had something. You know,

720
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: he's dealing with something, he's playing through it. But here

721
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: we are. If we get a chance to pull him

722
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: out of the game, let's do that. So I can

723
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: see where it can be both. It could be a

724
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: little back issue, it could be resting. But you know,

725
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: if you have to play them, you have to play them.

726
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: But if you don't have to play them, I'd like

727
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: to rest them. And that's kind of what they did. Know,

728
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I get it, And well I don't love everything that

729
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: happened there, but I will take this opportunity to be

730
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: a smart ass and point it like our people in

731
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Carolina right now saying, oh, well Darnald did all that

732
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: in garbage time. The Cowboys were resting their players because

733
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: that's what Dak got for years, right. I mean that, So, so,

734
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: which is it, like, is it impressive that Darnald did

735
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: that or were the Cowboys resting their guys? Does it

736
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: matter that dak is always two stories after the NFL game, right, sure? Which, yeah,

737
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: you would like that to not have gotten as close

738
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: as it was. But if Trayvon was really dealing with something,

739
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: you have a twenty point lead, I get the rash now,

740
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: I'll bet you I said this turn the break. I'll

741
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: bet you ten dollars. If they hadn't run the clock out,

742
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: he would have been on the field with Carolina down

743
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: eight less than two minutes player or whatever. Well they

744
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: needed to and now that would have been a story

745
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: if they didn't. And then they go down and tie

746
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: it the game. That about it. What's in the really

747
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: more than anything more than sitting Treyvon digs because again, yeah,

748
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna play soft defense. You're you just want them

749
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: to bleed clock. Right. They can score all the touchdowns

750
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: they want as long as you make them work for it.

751
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: Which one of my least favorite things that happened in

752
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: this game was the not even just them converting the

753
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: fourth and eight, but getting fifty five yards on a

754
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: fourth and eight, four fifty four to play, They're on

755
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: their own thirty two. You would like to think that

756
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna make them march the field and take another

757
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: two minutes off the clock. They get all the way

758
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: down to the thirteen in one play, so that's that's

759
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: a bust. And then the other one. And you know,

760
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: I love Kellen Moore and I love throwing the ball,

761
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: but third and three with seven h five to play,

762
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: you've just run at will on this team all day,

763
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: and you take it. You take that opportunity to take

764
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: a shot to ceedee lamb. I don't think that's the

765
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: right idea, which you get. You're gonna love every play

766
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: call that works and hate every play call that doesn't.

767
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: But just run the ball, keep the clock moving. Now

768
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: even if you just get that first down and then

769
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: punt three plays later, now the clock is at four

770
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: minutes instead of seven. That just was a belly road

771
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: play for CD. I mean, Schultz, Jarwin, Cedric Amari, They've

772
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: all scored touch sounds, have all had big games. Pollard's

773
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: having a nice game, Zeke's having a great game. If

774
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: you want to rub his belly, do it on first

775
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: or second down when you're at third and three in

776
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: that situation. In my opinion, I don't even like I

777
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, run the ball. But the way

778
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I look at it is, even if they didn't want

779
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: to run the ball, there are so many plays in

780
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: this offense that can get you three yards to keep

781
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: the chains moving, rather than going on a on a

782
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: high a low percentage play throwing the ball down here.

783
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's run or past, but something

784
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: high percentage right, leake Dalton out into the flat or whatever.

785
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: You want to do something that's got a higher success rate.

786
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: And I don't really I don't think that. Maybe maybe

787
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: CD's got us all fooled, but he seems just as

788
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: a piece as Amari does with the way that this

789
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: all works. Yeah, fantasy owners aren't, but hey, if you

790
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: if you're counting, if you're counting on the Cowboys to

791
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: carry you in fantasy, unless it's Dak, I say, ze

792
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Zeke is doing Maybe because Zeke is doing this, you

793
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: say that, but everybody was up in arms for the

794
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season. Yeah, but find a

795
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: running back that's not going to have a week or

796
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: two when they're not going to be getting great numbers.

797
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: But he's fine, he's fine. Yeah, But I wouldn't great.

798
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to count on most of the guys

799
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: on this team fency points. Even Dack didn't get you

800
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot of yards, but he got four touchdowns. I'm

801
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: good with that. He I am a Dack owner. He

802
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: had a nice day. Yeah, I was even on his

803
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: bad days. He's gonna be okay. But yeah, just some

804
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: of some of the some of the decision making there

805
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: that play call. I haven't had a chance to watch

806
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: it back, but whatever happened on the fourth down and

807
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean having having digs and a few

808
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: other A few other veterans were out as well. We

809
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: mentioned Jalen Smith was out. Let's talk about the two

810
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: minute conversion because you I mean the two point conversion.

811
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: You talked about that a little earlier. Cowboys get a

812
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: touchdown I think it was eighteen yard pass to Jarwin Um.

813
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: After that, didn't they get a penalty because there were

814
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: twelve men on the field for the defense. So now

815
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: it sets up a scenario where for the extra point

816
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: you have one yard versus two. Cowboys decide, okay, instead

817
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: of taking you know, some yards still kicking it, we're

818
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: gonna go for two points from the one Now I

819
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have a huge problem with that decision. I

820
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: just needed to match up. If you're going to do that,

821
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: the only reason you go for it with one less

822
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: yard is if you figure, hey, running behind this big mammoth,

823
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, when we go big type thing, one yards

824
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: a little easier than two. Then you say, okay, let's

825
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: do it. But my problem is really about the fact

826
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: that you naked two versus one, and then you try

827
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: to throw the ball and as you told me Nick

828
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: in the press box, you throw it on a pass

829
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: route that isn't even in the end zone. You forced

830
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: your you're tied end to have to try to get

831
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: into the end zone. What mean the decision, Dalton Schultz

832
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: has never been you know a guy that you know

833
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: mistaken for Mike Alstock. I mean, he's not just gonna

834
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: run over people, so get him, get him in the

835
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah, I mean, you just I didn't understand

836
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: that you're gonna do that. Like you said, you moved

837
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: from two to one. That means you're probably gonna run

838
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: it and if they stop you at the one, then

839
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: they stop you at the one. But I didn't. I

840
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: didn't of that play call, and maybe it was checked out.

841
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean maybe that he looked at it and looked

842
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: at the front and said, oh, this is this is

843
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: the play. But um, I don't know. I didn't. I

844
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: didn't love that play, but I was okay with going

845
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: forward at that point percentage especially Sorry dude, but one point,

846
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I think you have to always throw in. There's no chart,

847
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: there's no there's no you know, nobody's got a cheat

848
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: sheet for two point conversions. Nothing on that ever says

849
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: if your kicker is struggling, if you what is your

850
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: confidence in your kicker? Do you think this was about

851
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: the kicker and your confidence? No, No, I don't think

852
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: it's I don't think we're at that point. I just think,

853
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: look at the percentages. If we're gonna do analytics, what

854
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: are the analytics would say to get two points for

855
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: a one yard run or one point for a thirty

856
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: four yard extra point And he's already missed one, So

857
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably a better chances to get the

858
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: two points from the one yard line. And I don't

859
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: have a strong take on this. Actually, that play, that

860
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: play gave me warm and fuzzy flashbacks because it reminded

861
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: me a lot of the two point conversion the Saints

862
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: ran in Super Bowl forty four against the Colts. Lancemore

863
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: catches it in the flat, same thing happened. He got

864
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: hit right at the inch line and he extended and

865
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: hit the pylon and got the two points. Uh So,

866
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I thought the defender made

867
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: a great play. Sometimes that happens with the way they

868
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: were running the ball shirt and maybe just run it

869
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: be a little less cute. But I just thought the

870
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: defender made a great play. I mean, to hit a

871
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: tight end and just stop his momentum like that completely.

872
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I think more often than not, Dalton Schultz is gonna

873
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: win that it didn't work. I'm not super mad about it.

874
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: That was fine with him going for two there. Yeah,

875
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: going for two Yeah from the one yard line. I'm

876
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: that sounds dumb because it's normally on the three anyway.

877
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, I don't necessarily understand his rationale

878
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: on the other two points, Like, you know, why not

879
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: do it when you're up? You know it's because then

880
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: then on the on the next time, when they scored

881
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: to take a nineteen to fourteen lead, they could have

882
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: gone for two to make it seven, but they didn't.

883
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Let's fine, six points is that's two field goals. But

884
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: then they scored again to make it twenty six to fourteen,

885
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: and then they did go for two to try to

886
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: go I do kind of understand that, So what's just

887
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: because I don't. But I'm not saying I'm arguing with you,

888
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, what's the difference of saying we

889
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: gotta be up two touchdowns but we don't want to

890
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: be up one touchdown. Well, I think the way I

891
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: look at it is, in the first scenario, the situation

892
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: is now you miss it, Now you're down by five,

893
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: and now that means you're down by like literally they

894
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: can get two field goals and win the game. So

895
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, I don't want to chase points

896
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: at that point. Now when I'm up two scores, now

897
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: I'll take a chance because if I don't, I'm still

898
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: up two scores. And I feel a little bit better

899
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: about that. So I could get that rationale a little

900
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: bit more. But again we're talking about preferences, like we're

901
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: talking about I don't think any of this necessarily, And

902
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: this particular part, this particular decision to me, was like

903
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: you made a huge mistake. You were absolutely wrong. I

904
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's that. I just think it's like, hey,

905
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: this is this is a scenario that could work. There

906
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: is another scenario that could also work. Both could be true.

907
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: I just feel vindicated because I said there was going

908
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: to be a weird number, and thirty six is a

909
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: weird number. Yeah, I thought it was. I mean, I

910
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: said twenty five twenty. I didn't think that the offense

911
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: was going to look that. EXPL said they win by eight.

912
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: You did maybe four sixteen? There you go, I sure did.

913
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: Or do we have time to talk about the client

914
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: face mask? Yeah? Yeah, that's where I was going next.

915
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: And uh, And that was one that was really interest

916
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Third thirteen twenty two left in the second quarter? Oh

917
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: my god, is it really thirteen thirty twenty two left

918
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: in the second quarter? It was second and twelve at

919
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: the Carolina twenty three to have an incomplete pass and

920
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: there's a face mask on Carolina. Um, here was the

921
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: interesting part. The Cowboys decided to decline it, which meant

922
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: that now it's third and twelve at the Carolina twenty three.

923
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: If they would have accepted, it would have been second

924
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: and twenty three at the Carolina twelve. I know it's

925
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot of numbers, a lot, and there are only one,

926
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: two and three exactly, especially when you said there was

927
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: what thirteen twelve, Yeah, thirty twenty two, thirty twenty two yeah,

928
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: um in the second quarter, second and twelve. Yeah, everything

929
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: about it is just really weird. At the Caroline twenty

930
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: third down third, You're either gonna have third twelve or

931
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: second and twenty three. He opted for third and twelve.

932
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Was that the right decision? It wasn't the right decision

933
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: based off of what happened, it wasn't the right Well,

934
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: but in retrospect, let's let's go back to before you

935
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: see the result. Yeah, right was the right decision. And

936
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: I and I did say to you, I didn't like

937
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: this call. But I mean, I got a guy on

938
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: to my left over here that's saying I would decline this,

939
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm thinking about it too. When then

940
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: I said to you, I don't think I would, mainly

941
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: because the further I can push you back to your

942
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: goal line, the less aggressive I think you're going to

943
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: be to try to get this first down. That's a

944
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: good point because I agree with you're talking about Todd Archer. Yeah,

945
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: I agree with Todd honestly, and then you would have

946
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: you would have declined it, I think, And that's I

947
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: think this is a classic case of just killing the

948
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: decision that doesn't work no matter what happens, because and

949
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: this is you talk about PTSD as a football fan,

950
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: how many times in your life as a football fan

951
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: have you watched a holding call back a team up

952
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: to like second and twenty and then they get two

953
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: shots to pick up twenty yards and the first play

954
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: always goes for like eighteen and you're like, damn it,

955
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: like twenty yards and you just gave it up right

956
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: there and now it's just third and two, like what

957
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: was the flag even for happens all the time, and

958
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I think giving people an extra bite at the apple,

959
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: maybe it makes them more conservative. But Sam Darnold's not

960
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: a rookie, and it's clearly seems like they trust them.

961
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have changed their game plan,

962
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: and I have no problem believing they pick up seventeen

963
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: of those twenty three yards on second down, you know,

964
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean the way that they were again, DJ Moore

965
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: had a nice night, like they had success on offense.

966
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: So I like the idea of third and long. I mean,

967
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: it's third and long, you should be able to get

968
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: off the field on third. They had been converting those

969
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: third and longs, so they I think it may have

970
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: been a maybe a possession before that or so they

971
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: have two third loans they converted. But my point is,

972
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: and this is where I had a problem with it,

973
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna make you do it twice, Like you

974
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: just said that, Like third and twelve, you gotta do

975
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: it once, right if it's third and I'm sorry, second

976
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: and twenty three, you got to do that basically twice.

977
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: But I already made you do it twice. I already

978
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: made you. You got three yards on first down and

979
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: you threw the ball out of bounds on second, town

980
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I made you do it twice. No, No, what I'm

981
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: saying is when you got to pick up twenty three

982
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: yards on second down, Now you got two shots to

983
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: be able to do it, like both times, you gotta

984
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: get over ten yards on average of over ten yards

985
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: on two different plays. That's where I'm like, I'm gonna

986
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: make you do it twice versus just one time. You

987
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: third twelve, you get one play that gets you twelve

988
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen fifteen yards, it's a first down. Can you

989
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you do it twice? Can you? I

990
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: really think that this is a situation where there isn't

991
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: a right or wrong answer. It's gonna work or it's not.

992
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: But can you at least acknowledge that you would probably

993
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: be frustrated if you put them in second and twenty

994
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: three and they picked up enough yard to where it's

995
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: third and six and you're like, crap, which we hadn't

996
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: given them two shots at this? Yes, but I also

997
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: will say this the likelihood that then they pick up

998
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: that third and six, they still got to do it right.

999
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: And so the way I look at it is at

1000
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: the end of again, you're right, there's probably this is

1001
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: probably not one of those situations where it's like there

1002
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: is a clear right and wrong answer. I'm just saying

1003
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: I would have preferred make them go longer. Make even

1004
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: if you give them an extra down, make them go

1005
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: twenty three yards over those two downs versus just one

1006
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: bite at the apple to one other factor into this

1007
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: two and going into the game. Somebody told me, because

1008
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I think you know, the Cowboys were talking about it,

1009
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: this is a game is going to be a weirdly

1010
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: officiated game, and it was. There were some weird, kind

1011
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: of wonky plays in there. So yeah, it's going to

1012
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Dave's point on you know, to get off the field twice.

1013
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: All it takes is illegal contact five yard penalty by

1014
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis at the line of scrimmage to give you

1015
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: an automatic first down. So what I'm saying is is

1016
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: that you gotta be smart about that. But you know,

1017
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: I can see, I can see the logic on getting

1018
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: off the field one time versus two. Me personally, if

1019
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: it's that close to the goal line, I think I

1020
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: would just push him back a little bit more, like

1021
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: I really, And I think what bugs me is people

1022
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: are so certain all the time. They're just like, this

1023
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: was the dumbest thing that's ever happened, or this was genius.

1024
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: And if he made some fourth down calls that they

1025
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: got first down early in the game, they did a

1026
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: fourth and two, they got it. You know, I mean,

1027
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: no one, no one says that kind of stuff. Nobody

1028
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: talks about game management usually when they win. Except for

1029
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: this team. We're talking about it for the last three

1030
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: weeks they had. I mean, it comes up. This was

1031
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: well the fourth quarter was just weird. I don't know,

1032
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: and it didn't it didn't bite him in the ass.

1033
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: But the Trayvon thing management versus health, I don't know.

1034
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: That's I care way more about that than this because

1035
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time, if you tell me we're

1036
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: gonna put them in third and twelve, I'm like, yeah,

1037
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: I hopefully trust my defense to get off the field

1038
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: in that situation. It did not work this time, I

1039
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: would acknowledge. I'd also think part of this is that

1040
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: every week there seems to be something that is questionable

1041
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: with regards to decisions. And so for again, I'm speaking

1042
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of those people who are really having

1043
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: a problem with a lot of these things. They're like, Okay,

1044
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that every week there is all

1045
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: there are all these decisions that are questionable because I'll

1046
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: put it like this, I don't remember us doing this

1047
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: with Jason, Like it wasn't a every week. There were moments,

1048
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I don't remember it being

1049
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: every week. We're like, man, what was a decision with that?

1050
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: Like last week with the whole clock management thing, like

1051
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: that was a bit of a problem. They didn't lose,

1052
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: but that's also where I just think part of this

1053
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: is people don't trust McCarthy at this point, and so

1054
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: for everything, he's never gonna get the benefit of the

1055
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: doubt because people have already built that up because of

1056
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: all these weeks when there were been things that are

1057
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: question I gotta take for you. I appreciate it. It's

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Speaker 1: at least interesting and also like, yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: think that's the big thing with McCarthy, as people just

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Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do and it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot of rhyme or reason to it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's not. There was rhyme or reason to Jason

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Speaker 1: and it was just to kind of be a win

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Speaker 1: we used to give Jason a standing ovation when he

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Speaker 1: that's not aggressive or impressive, that's just what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. So I don't know it can be. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of frustrating, just it's hard figuring out the way

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Speaker 1: McCarthy thinks about this stuff. But it's way more entertaining

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Speaker 1: than what we were used to and you're always down

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Speaker 1: for the entertainment. Absolutely, Yeah, all right, we appreciate you, guys, Joannis.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll give you guys a big

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Speaker 1: picture look around the NFC East. Interesting things happen, I

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Speaker 1: guess there. Cowboys have another NFC East game this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll start getting ready for that as well. For Nicki

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