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And now let's head 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: over to the first Word Breaking news desk for today's 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: afternoon call. Here is Bill Maloney. Good afternoon, Charlie. That's right. 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Gained in US stocks today as those brakes, it fears 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: fade over. In Europe, the UK, France, Germany and Spain 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: all gained three percent or more back. In the USC, 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: sp cash traded back up of its fifty day moving average, 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: and the small cap six hundred climbs eleven points. The 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: US ten yield at one point six seven percent nine 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: out of tenness to be sectors are higher lit by 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: gains and energy industrials and consumer discretionary only utilities fell down, 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Transports rise nineties six and as a biotech game thirty three, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: and the vix is lower by ten percent down. Leaders 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: included Boeing, Intel, End, Goldman Sachs, and another news Walmart 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to buy a five percent stake in JD dot Com 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: as part of a Chinese deal. Live from the First 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Breaking News desk on Bill Maloney. Charlie, all right, thank 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: you very much, Bill Maloney, and you're live breaking news 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: over your Bloomberg type squawk sq You a w K 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: on your terminal. I'm Charlie Poddic. That's Bloomberg Business Flash. 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Taking Stock with Kathleen and pim Box 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio early on Saturday. Over the weekend, the 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: New York State Legislature they passed a well, they tried 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: to pass a bill that we've signed into law would 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: change the entire landscape of fantasy sports. New York State 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Senate passing Senate Bill eight one five three to regulate 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: interactive Fantasy Sports contest. A companion bill had been previously 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: passed in the State Assembly. Here to tell us a 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: little bit more about it and the repercussions for the 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: fantasy sports business is Jay Koream. He is the founder 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: and owner of Dreamco Design. He is the author of 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the book Daily Fantasy Sports, and is a member of 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: the Legislative Affairs Committee for the Fantasy Sports Trade Association. Jay, 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: thank you very much for being with us. Thanks for 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: having me. Now, there seems to be a bit of 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: a contradiction because, as I said, uh, this bill passed 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: by the Senate, and then there's the companion bill it 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: was previously passed by the State Assembly. Um seems to 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: contradict what the New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issued 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: that season desist order at last November. What exactly is 56 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: going on here in the world of fantasy sports business. Sure, so, 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. It was definitely a rebuke 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: and one that was good for the industry and for 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: consumers on on the business side and with h you know, 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: consumers because they're going to have more options in terms 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: of how and where they play. So fantasy sports has 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: been around for decades. People have been playing in season 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: long leagues and whatnot. Daily fantasy sports within the last 64 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty four months has ramped up as an industry. It's 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: quite large. There are fifty seven million people in North 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: America that play fantasy sports in some capacity. And daily 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: fantasy sports really caught on last year. A lot of 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: people recall seeing ads from FANDUL and Draftings. So New 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: York Attorney General is really the one that thrust it 70 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: into the spot light as having a negative opinion of 71 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the industry and considering it nothing more than a form 72 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: of gambling. So on the federal end, we have what's 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: called UIJAH. It's essentially a car about so that operators 74 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: like vandel and draftings could exist. Fantasy sports are looked 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: at as games of skill. However, individual states they can 76 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: choose what is gambling and what's not. Uh, and the 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Attorney General in New York thought that it was uh, 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, gambling and it was not a skill based 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: game and every state they determined what the word gambling 80 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: means in their states. So that's that's the interesting side 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of it. So DDE. This is so interesting though that 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: this bill passed by the New York State Senate to 83 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: regulate interactive fantasy sports contest a companion bill the previously 84 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: passed in the state Assembly. But this is a big deal. Uh. 85 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: They started debating Friday night, they went into the wee 86 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: hours of the morning. They didn't vote till to a 87 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: m Uh, this passes. What has stepped up the urgency 88 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: And to what extent is this a win for Eric Schneiderman, 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: next Attorney General? How much is it a win for 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: the big fantasy sports players. So the fight in New 91 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: York has been going on since the Attorney General came 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: out and said that this is nothing more than gambling 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: and we need to do everything we can to shut 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: down Vanduel, Draft Kings and any other operator. So it's 95 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: not a new thing. However, they did, you know, the state, 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: the state legislator did want to get it done prior 97 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: to the session ending so that we didn't criminalize people 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: that are playing fantasy sports for money. And there was 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: a similar issue unfolding in Illinois as well. So it 100 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: even though it had the has the takeaway of this 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: just came up, just happened. This battle has been going 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: on for quite a while. Uh and there are three 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: core principles at the Fantasy Sports Trade Association and Vanduel 104 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: DraftKings as well, we're really looking for and trying to 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: make sure we worked end roads within the state to 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: have happened. We want to make sure that fantasy sports 107 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: are considered a game of skill. We're fine with basic 108 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: consumer protections, but we also needed to make sure that 109 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: there was a fee structure put in place that wasn't 110 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: going to, you know, be the death sentence for a 111 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of small businesses or create a duopoly. So there 112 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: were a lot of moving parts behind the scenes that 113 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: were unfolding over the last few weeks to get the 114 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: bill where it is today. Can you give us an 115 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: idea of how much, for example, draft kings brought in 116 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: from user fees because that seems to be the big 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: money maker there. Yeah. So the way that these operators, 118 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: these fantasy sport operators make money is they can they 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: keep a percentage. So let's say there's a ten man 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: uh ten dollar contest. It's a hundred dollars total, Well, 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: ninety would be part of the prize pool, and they 122 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: would keep ten dollars, you know, collectively. What the individual 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: companies are doing, it varies what you're going to hear 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: from FANDUL or Draftings. However, they have taken hundreds of 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: millions of dollars over the course of time and deposits. 126 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: So it certainly is you know, substantial. Uh, and you know, 127 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: to some extent, it's not a surprise the government wants 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: to get involved because it thinks it can it can 129 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: cut into I don't have the specifics in front of me, 130 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: but I do actually have a chapter dedicated to the 131 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: financials in the book. Just really quick, think about ten 132 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: seconds left. How many people were betting on the Big 133 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Game last night? Uh? The sports betting and fantasy sports 134 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: very different. Yeah, there are two very different things. They 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been doing anything like that when it comes 136 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: to fantasy sports. Both vandel and Draftings definitely have interest 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: in going public. So we'll say, Jakorea, thank you so much. 138 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Founder and owner of Dream Code Design, he's also the 139 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: author of Daily Fantasy Sports and a member of the 140 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Legislative Affairs Committee for the Fantasy Sports Trade Association on 141 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Kathy Hayes along with pim Fox, taking Stock, brig Radio 142 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: coming up on taking stock. Facebook has its annual shareholders 143 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: meeting and Peter til He's gonna stay on the board. 144 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out more about the future of Facebook 145 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: next