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Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody. It's me Middlecoff also known as

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. Three and out podcast Little NFL Combine Edition Combine.

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this on a Monday afternoon and did a

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier today. It's all wrapped up. Just one

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Speaker 1: into a conversation that often happens, especially on social media,

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Speaker 1: with anyone that loves talking about the draft, and I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes we missed the point of what the the exercise,

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Speaker 1: not the actual exercises, but everything that just happened over

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Speaker 1: the teams that are he's being rumored to are not

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Speaker 1: ideal fits. The big winner of this weekend, Adam Silver

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Speaker 1: made some comments about millennials and they're so angry at

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Speaker 1: the Sloan Conference in Boston. I thought the NFL had

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Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend, and it'll dive in Y. Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: one of the truly great receivers we've seen in recent memory,

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Speaker 1: an incredible scores st Earth campaign right now of Ben

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Speaker 1: actually coming around on him. But we'll dive into some

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Speaker 1: of that too. Also we'll end with the Middlecoff mail bag.

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Speaker 1: Easiest way to get ahold of me social media? Follow

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Speaker 1: me at John Middlecoff Twitter, uh Instagram is where I

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Speaker 1: answer the questions for this show. You'd slide up in

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Speaker 1: I go live every day on Periscope. I'm also simulcasting

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Speaker 1: it on YouTube. So if you if you want my

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Speaker 1: this element of the combine. The NFL combine does not

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Speaker 1: determine whether you're gonna be a good or bad player

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It just determines where you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: don't trade back, not even a twenty six, but into

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Speaker 1: you're just wasting draft capital. Just like a lot of people. Again,

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Speaker 1: you could really love a player or love an asset

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Speaker 1: to this work in various businesses. You could be head

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Speaker 1: if you have to quote unquote overpay a little. You

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Speaker 1: like seven am, ten am Eastern Greedy Williams ran a

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Speaker 1: I want this player, just draft him wherever. Draft picks

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Speaker 1: That's what Bill Belichick has been doing forever. He knows value,

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Speaker 1: Knowing where players are gonna go in the draft is

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Speaker 1: NFL is the devil. It's like, uh, I don't know

426
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Speaker 1: if that's really the case. The NFL is just a

427
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Speaker 1: sports league trying to make money. And it turns out

428
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years later, everything's kind of quieted in

429
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: the NFL is on top, running circles around the other

430
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: two leagues. Adam Silver's top players in the NBA constantly

431
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: say things that are just so beyond outrageous about how

432
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: angry and unhappy they are despite making, you know, thirty

433
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year just an NBA salary, not

434
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Speaker 1: counting the shoot deals. NFL players don't really have shoot deals.

435
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: I think the only guy that got a big shoe

436
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: deal was Odell Beckham. That kind of is like an

437
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: uh NBA player, and his shoe deal was like five

438
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to put into context Kevin Durance's three.

439
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: But I think when you looked at the NFL this

440
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 1: weekend in the combine. It was just a great television

441
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: product for happiness. You see all these coaches, everyone just

442
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: kind of b s and everyone having a good time.

443
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: All the players are just so honored to be there.

444
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: There were countless videos of multiple guys that ran Devin

445
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Speaker 1: Why to l s U. I think ran a four

446
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Speaker 1: fourth who then he gets on the phone to his

447
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: mom and dad and cry and it was just like,

448
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: you know what, this is just fun because at the

449
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: end of the day, these guys are achieving their dreams.

450
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: It's about to become a business, but still football, you know,

451
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: it's still it's still a passion. It's how most of

452
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: these guys got here. And it was just enjoyable to watch.

453
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Speaker 1: And I think one thing the NFL has done a

454
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Speaker 1: good job of it. It It just kind of naturally happened.

455
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: And I understand why it happened, because when you become

456
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: that big and that powerful, people are gonna come at you.

457
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: Welcome to America. You know, the wind blows fast to

458
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: the top of the mountaintop, and the NFL is the

459
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: top of the mountaintop. But everything is just about them

460
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: is kind of becoming fun and cool. Again, make the

461
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Speaker 1: NFL great again. We can argue about the football. It's

462
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: a it's a little soft for me, but they had

463
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: to change because CT became such a big deal, concussions

464
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: became such a big deal, and they did. And this

465
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: year the NFL because they have so many good young

466
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks about to get another one in Kyler Murray and

467
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: all these players just seem really likable for the most part,

468
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: all the first rounders texting around the league like, all

469
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: these guys are pretty character guys, pretty sharp, pretty impressive.

470
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: The NFL is about to get a pretty good crop

471
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Speaker 1: of guys coming into the league, and really, for the

472
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Speaker 1: most part they have the last several years, the league

473
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Speaker 1: is in a great place. There was a story I

474
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: think Peter King wrote that very soon with Standard Cronkie's

475
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Speaker 1: Palace that he's building. The NFL network is going to

476
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: be in the building the combine. We're in the last

477
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Speaker 1: couple of years of them being in Indianapolis. They're going

478
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Speaker 1: to be in l A, which I like because going

479
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: to Indie for me personally can be kind of a challenge.

480
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Speaker 1: But if they're in l A, it's a forty five

481
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: minutes southwest flight. I'm excited. I can't wait for it

482
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Speaker 1: to come into l A. But when it becomes to

483
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: l A, he even wrote that they've been talking about

484
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Speaker 1: making it a prime time event. That's the interest in

485
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: the in the NFL. That the NFL combine guys running

486
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: forties and jumping vertical jumps in lifting and just having

487
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: press conference is going to become a prime time event.

488
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: Think about the power of that, and it to me,

489
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: it just speaks to the NFL is just in a really,

490
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: really good place right now, and it's just maybe it's

491
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: the the love of football that this country has. I

492
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: also think there's just there's something the league has and

493
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: the the setup of the sport that fits our culture perfectly,

494
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: the urgency, the every game matters. I mean, what's NBA

495
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: and Major League Baseball fight? The games in the middle

496
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: of the season don't mean anything. It doesn't matter if

497
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Speaker 1: you win or lose. In college and in pro football,

498
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: every game matters. Now, you can lose some games and

499
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Speaker 1: still get in in pro football, but you can't lose

500
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: too many games because you will not be a playoff team.

501
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing the NFL really has going

502
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: for it. And I remember growing up college basketball used

503
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: to be a really big deal because all the NBA

504
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: players played college basketball for multiple years, so you got

505
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: to know him. Like I've been watching grand Hill until

506
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Speaker 1: his junior year. Shack played at LSU multiple years, AI,

507
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: multiple years of George. You just watch all these guys. Well,

508
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: the football, that's never gonna change. All these guys go

509
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: to college, even if they kind of mail in their

510
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: third year, you got to you got to go on

511
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: a ride with a dude at Ohio State or Alabama

512
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: or USC or wherever. Not really USC anymore. I think

513
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: first year in like thirty five years, they didn't send

514
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: it under classmen to the combine. You get to know

515
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: these guys I've been hearing about. Even if you're just

516
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: a casual football fan, you're like, God, I've been hearing

517
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: about Rashawn and Gary for a couple of years. In Michigan,

518
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: you're David, Devin White or Greedy Williams for two years,

519
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: all these teams playing big games. I'll think Ohio Snake guys.

520
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: Bosa now he's a little unique because his brother, but

521
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: all the Clemson guys, it's just it's the NFL is

522
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: the setup of it, and then when you factor in

523
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: once season starts with gambling, the other league just can't

524
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: hang and we already just naturally like football more. Now

525
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: me personally, I'm just a unique sports fan. I watched

526
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: so much of everything. Actually, like maybe the PGA Tour

527
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: the best, but it's just there's something about the league

528
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: that the other two are just they can't replicate. In

529
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: baseball because of the draft, they can't. There's nothing you

530
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: can do because we don't watch college baseball. But basketball,

531
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: the one powerful thing they used to have is they

532
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: have superstars playing college basketball for multiple years. And when

533
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: you do that, the draft becomes bigger because even Kyler Murray,

534
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: who's a one year starter, you don't even he's obviously

535
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: the cash cow in this draft. You need quarterbacks last year.

536
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: That's why the last year was so big, Johnny Manzel's year,

537
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Tim t But you need a polarizing quarterback. But you

538
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: also just need other guys that we know who they are.

539
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: You know, the year that Clowney came out, Khalil Mack,

540
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: that that whole draft, Odell Beckham, all those guys we

541
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: had just heard about for Brandon Cooks in Oregon State.

542
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: J J. Watt, I remember the draft. I actually attended

543
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, but you even Cam Newton went one,

544
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: but you could siphon him out. Just all the other

545
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: players you had heard about forever. My god, I've been

546
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: hearing about Michael Brocker for a while, or J. J. Watt,

547
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: this guy at Wisconsin. They just become kind of in

548
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: our vernacular because even if you're a casual college football fan,

549
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna stumble into the big games, and the big

550
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: teams usually have the top guys. I think the NFL

551
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: is in a fantastic place right now. We're always gonna

552
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: complain about replay about certain things, but I think this

553
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: weekend kind of, you know, just put the NFL on

554
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: a pedestal. Just how happy and fun it was. And

555
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: my guy dj I said last week he means a

556
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: lot to me personally for him helping me out. Professionally,

557
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: he he was, he was really good and just it

558
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: was just fun. Him and rich or Fun and the

559
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: NFL foreign players they have on the field. Just just

560
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: a good event. Now you can make fun of the

561
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: underwear Olympics all you want. It was really enjoyable too

562
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: for me and I think a lot of people. I

563
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: went out on Saturday night that this girl and she

564
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: was at some birthday party and a bunch of guys

565
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: came up to me and you know what, I'm humble

566
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: brag Middle Calf, we love you on Twitter. But but

567
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: all they but in all seriousness, all they want to

568
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: talk about was God, Usuly DK Metcalf. God. Do you

569
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: think one guy was a Jets fan, another guy was

570
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: a Lions fan, with a bunch of Bear and Niner

571
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: in Raider fans. But they all wanted to ask about

572
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: you think we can get this guy then, and that

573
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: that's just something special the NFL has going for it.

574
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: The combine meets college football meets the power of the draft,

575
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: and it's only gonna get bigger because in a couple

576
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: of years, they ain't gonna go back to Indie. They're

577
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: going to l A and it's gonna be Hollywood. Antonio Brown,

578
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever quite seen a human,

579
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: definitely an athlete in the prime of their career, go

580
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: a scorched earth as he's going now. He's sang just

581
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: some incredible things, and I find him pretty entertaining. And

582
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't even think he's lying or wrong about the

583
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: things he was saying. I'm gonna try to load a

584
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: video right now. See if I can do it. Call

585
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: me out. We lose a game, like why why we

586
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: been doing? That's how the guy is. That's an incredible comment.

587
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: That's incredible. I've watched that video I don't know, five

588
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: hundred times this weekend. He's not wrong. The Ben is

589
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: a major red flag. He blames everyone else he on.

590
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: That's what he was talking about. In that specific play

591
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: against Denver Broncos, Antonio Brown was somewhat open. Ben screwed up,

592
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: and Ben never takes responsibility. But a b you've been

593
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL long enough. You're not a twenty year

594
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: old playerty one years old. A couple of things you

595
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: just don't get credit like he I'm a humble guy

596
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: from sixth round. Okay, you're now three contracts later, the

597
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: best receiver in the league. You work hard, We get that.

598
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: But you just go and scortch dr with on a quarterback,

599
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: even if you're not wrong, and we all think he's

600
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a fraud, though he's earned the

601
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: right and proven he's one of the Hall of Fame quarterback.

602
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: You're not gonna win that battle. Here's the other thing,

603
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: if Lebron James and his people, which I think is

604
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: a little screwed up that Lebron claims he's this player

605
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: friendly guy. Lebron never says a goddamn thing on the show,

606
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: but Antonio Brown, who says by far, probably the best

607
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: comment they're ever gonna get on the Shop, just hurts himself.

608
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: If Lebron really cared about Antonio Brown, Like if that's

609
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff show and I'm just a media guy, I

610
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't go, hey, Antonio, I'm gonna cut that out. But Lebron,

611
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: who is a player and doesn't need the money, could

612
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: be like, you know, let's let's save this until you're traded,

613
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: because this is not gonna help your cause. Like they

614
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: made him look bad, and again, Antonio is not lying

615
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: or is not technically wrong. It is kind of stupid

616
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: that the teams just want guys to just lie to

617
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: the media even though we all know what's really going on.

618
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Like Ben screws up a lot, and he refuses to

619
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: take responsibility one time when he threw the pick in

620
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: another game, remember the fake pipe spike pick. I can't

621
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: remember who they were playing. He blamed Todd Haley that

622
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Todd Haley that Ben wanted to spike it, that Todd

623
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: Haley told him that I'm just a blatant lie. But

624
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is still on the Steelers. He he's trying

625
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: to get traded. If you're trying to get traded, and

626
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: he's been in the league long enough, just go silent,

627
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Just go radio silent. Then after you're traded, if you

628
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: want to go scorched earth, and people go, why does

629
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: why does Antonio Brown care about ruining his own trade

630
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: value and what the Steelers get back, because he's not

631
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: just ruining his own trade value, he's making it. Kevin

632
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: Colberg said last week, when he had been on the

633
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: trade blox for like two weeks, that three teams had called.

634
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: This was a guy that had averaged eleven or a

635
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven catches for the last six years and

636
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: a leven touchdowns. And I think, like I did the

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Speaker 1: math a couple of weeks ago, he's on one of

638
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Speaker 1: the great six year stretches we've ever seen in the

639
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Speaker 1: league history, and he's under contract, and three teams called

640
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: because of stuff like that. And I've defended Drew Rosenhouse

641
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: even though he unfollowed me on Twitter, like a year

642
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: ago that maybe I was crushing one of his clients

643
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: that Drew used to be kind of crazy and it's

644
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: kind of how he made his mark. But the last

645
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: ten years Drew realizes I'm making way too much money.

646
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: I need to be in with the gms and my players.

647
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I can balance it. This is not the way to

648
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Speaker 1: handle it. The t O style does not work. It

649
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: makes your client look like an idiot. Now again, I

650
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: actually kind of he's growing on me. I love because

651
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: he's not wrong, but he keeps bringing up this humble

652
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: six rounder broke you get helicopter to training camp, so

653
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: we got it. Your work hard, I mean, that's the NFL.

654
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: A lot of guys work hard. You're really good. But

655
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: to just ship it on everyone that you've been around

656
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: for the last five years is not going to help

657
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: your cause to get out of there. Now, you could

658
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: argue that, and someone brought this up. Could you trade

659
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and keep Antonio Brown? Maybe, you know, try

660
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: to get Josh Rosen or something that's not crazy, But

661
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: that's not the way the league works, not with a

662
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: guy of Ben's stature, and they're they're in bed with Ben.

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: It's just they're all in. It's too late, so Antonio,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna not choose you, and clearly you don't want

665
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: them to choose you. But if you want to help

666
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: your ability to get out of town, stop talking. It's

667
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: fun for me and I love ripping the video and

668
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: tweeting it out or put it on Instagram, but it

669
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: is not good for you because you are way too

670
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: good of a player for three teams in the NFL

671
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: to call. Do you know what Kevin Colbrich has just said,

672
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: thirty one teams called, and thirty one teams called, then

673
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: again the next day, three teams. It shows you Antonio Brown,

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00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: who people in my position love. He's fun. He's just

675
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: crushing people. He looks like remember if you guys ever

676
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: seen the movie. You can't even answer this, but I'll

677
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: just throw it out there to myself. Commando Arnold Schwartzenegger

678
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: mid eighties shows up on that island by himself with

679
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: all the guns and just takes on the whole island.

680
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: That's what Antonio Brown is doing right now to everyone

681
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: who's been involved with him with the Steelers, and I

682
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: just don't think it's gonna benefit him big picture. Okay,

683
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: let's get into the Middlecoff mail bag. Easiest way to

684
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: get ahold of me at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle.

685
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: You slide up in those d m s and then

686
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I answer questions. Why do you think oh b J

687
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: will be on the Niners by the end of March?

688
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: I said this on Twitter gut feeling or sources. I

689
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: think it's a combination of two things. One, I know

690
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: for a fact the Niners really want them too. I

691
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: know for a fact the Giants management, Ghetto, Ban Schrmer

692
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Speaker 1: some combination are more than open to trading. Now, the

693
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Speaker 1: one thing I am not sure about. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about this guy is the owner of the Giants.

695
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Most teams, when you trade a player, the owner gives you.

696
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: That's why they pay you. In the NFL, that coaches

697
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: and GM so much money, But a player of O

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Speaker 1: b J stature, just because he's so famous, John Marr

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Speaker 1: would have to sign off on that they paid him

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Speaker 1: I think twenty million dollar bonus last year. Now, I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, I do think it's easier to stomach if

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Speaker 1: you get swap two and six and get a second

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00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: round pick and next year's let's say a second round

704
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: pick that's a lot for O. B J. A guy

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00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: that you may not really want. Well, John Marris signed

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00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: off on that that would be the run. One reason

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Speaker 1: why I'm not gonna say it's happening, my gut says

708
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: it does happen, though, because they have their new star

709
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: in se Kwan Barkley and they need a quarterback. So

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00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: you get up to two, you take Dwayne Haskins. I

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00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: think you could also do this. You could take Bosa

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Speaker 1: at two, then use one of those two second round

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Speaker 1: picks to take a quarterback behind Eli. And they said that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think Gettleman went on record at the

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Speaker 1: combine saying that he wants to model after the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. You have Eli mentor guy. Well, it didn't

717
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Speaker 1: they take kyl let Of two years ago in the

718
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Speaker 1: second round. I think the Giants are a dumpster fire.

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Speaker 1: And I also think they just kind of want to

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Speaker 1: reset and get rid of Odell Beckham. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a combination of sources, gut feeling, and just kind of

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Speaker 1: the perfect time. And I just think the Niners are

723
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Speaker 1: gonna be really aggressive in their pursuit of Odell Beckham. Okay, John,

724
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Speaker 1: huge Patriot fan from the UK. I'm a fan of

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00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones Duke and everything I've seen from him seems

726
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: like he'd be a great fit in New England behind Brady.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts, do you think he will far fall far enough?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Bill would be interested? And if not,

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00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: where do you envisioned him landing? Yeah? I can see that.

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Speaker 1: Do they take a quarterback at thirty two? I don't

731
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Speaker 1: know if it's crazy just because they have two seconds

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Speaker 1: and three threes, so they go, well, we basically get

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Speaker 1: an extra first round pick because Isaiah Winn will be

734
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: coming back from his achilles injury. We drafted him in

735
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Speaker 1: the first If we love a quarterback Daniel Jones, I'll

736
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: be honest, I haven't watched that much of Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: beside at the Senior Bowl and maybe the Bowl game.

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Speaker 1: I don't really like any of these quarterbacks beside the

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00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: top two. But if Bill wants to draft in the

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Speaker 1: first round, he knows what he's doing. The highest quarterback

741
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Speaker 1: he's ever drafted, Jimmy Garoppolo, turned out he's pretty good,

742
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: so and look and just look, He's had a lot

743
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: of NFL guys beside that over the years. And Hoyer,

744
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: I guess Mettenburger wasn't miss but you know what I'm saying.

745
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: But if Bill's gonna draft a guy high, he's gonna

746
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: hit him, hit on him. So I guess it's not

747
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: crazy they could use that number, pick thirty two on

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Speaker 1: a quarterback when you're just factor in. They have so

749
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Speaker 1: many picks in the next two rounds and they could

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Speaker 1: pare two threes to get back up in the second

751
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: that they could do a lot. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: there's a decent chance at the end of this draft,

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Speaker 1: or let's just say at the end of Friday, So

754
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: between pick thirty two, their two twos and three threes

755
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: that the New England Patriots draft to quarterback Tom Brady.

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00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Go he's also forty one years old, gonna be forty two,

757
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: then forty three. I mean, how long can the guy play?

758
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: The answer right now will probably forever. Hey, John, listen

759
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: to you since the summer and can't get enough. I

760
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: like you, dog, lifelong Patriot fan. Should we use our

761
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: first round pick on a tight end or a pass rusher? Well,

762
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: this guy just asked about Daniel Jones. I would say

763
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: this if Gronk retires, and even if he doesn't retire,

764
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna take a tight end. And if fans, if

765
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: the other guy from Iowa that I know DJ on

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00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: NFL Network likes more, I can't high Smizata Hoosminzada. That's

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00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: not his name, but it starts with an H. They

768
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: could take either one of those guys. They'll both probably

769
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Speaker 1: be gone. I think they could easily justify a Nikiel Harry,

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00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, a Keem Butler, a guy like that. Take

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00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: a big body target. For as good as Gronk is,

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00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: the one thing he always brought to them was a

773
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: big red zone target and just a down the field

774
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: target for Brady. They can't just completely depend on Edelman

775
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and Hogan and all the little white guys that they draft,

776
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: but they're gonna need a big target, so I would go.

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00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Belichick is not big on taking receivers really high, though

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Speaker 1: he did trade a first round pick once upon a

779
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: time for Brandon Cooks. Could he take trade pick thirty

780
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: two for a player? You know? The Steelers and the

781
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Giants are not gonna trade of Modell Beckham, so I

782
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: don't really think that's an option. I haven't really read

783
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: or heard about any of the big time receivers being

784
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: on the block with Atlanta trade of Julio. Uh, they

785
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: definitely need more offensive weapons, which is crazy because they

786
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: just won their second Super Bowl in three years, So

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Speaker 1: do they really I don't know. It's a question super

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: niche mail bag question are you for against college hoops?

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00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: Walk on on the winning team coming in late in

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00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: a blowout and trying to get buckets frame of reference?

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00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: I like where these question is going. I watched a

792
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: cow State full or tin kid drilling and one against

793
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: your alma mater yesterday and wouldn't have batted an eye

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00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: had I not seen cal Pauly was the other team,

795
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: And immediately my brain jumps to where you land on

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00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: the widespread practice and hoops love the pod. You know

797
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: what's funny is I wouldn't have really known this was

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00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: going on until I was. I went to a Sacramento

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00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: Kings game with a bunch of buddies on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Mom lives in Davis. If for those references like fifteen

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00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: minutes away from sack Well, I live in the Bay Area,

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00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: It's about forty five minute drive home. So I got

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00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: up early early after a long night of drinking no

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00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: big deal, went right to the gym sweated it out,

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00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: and I drove home and I was listening to you know,

806
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: in early in the morning during the fall, they simulcast

807
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: college game Day. Well, they do the same thing in basketball.

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00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: So I'm listening to Ja Billis and they were talking

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00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: about these college walk ons coming in Laton games slash

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00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: like team managers. I got no issue with it, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a blood game. I I don't get offended.

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00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, maybe if you're a junior high or even

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00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: high school, there's a way to handle blowout to non blowouts.

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00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: Once you get to Division one basketball, it doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: in football. I guess, well, I mean, could you be

816
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: offended by what's his name? Jake? I can't think of it.

817
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I want to say Jake Long, but it's not Jake Long.

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00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Jake something God, I can't believe. I forget it. He

819
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Speaker 1: can't see. In USC in certain situations put him in

820
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: games Jake Ryan. No, I I'm screwed. I'm butchering his

821
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: last name. But they put he's blind. He's on the

822
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: team and in blowouts they'll talk together coach if they're

823
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: in that situation, and he'll come into this college. I

824
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: mean let some kids have some fun. So my my

825
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: first reaction is, once you get to D one college basketball, football,

826
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: any pro sport, I have zero, I repeat zero, sympathy

827
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Speaker 1: for the team getting their ass kicked that gets mad

828
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: about some weird practice, whether it's getting a young quarterback

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Speaker 1: wrap and still throwing deep bombs, whether it's shooting three

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00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: point shots, you know, in a blowout. I always say

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Speaker 1: this in basketball, if you're up like forty in with

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00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: five minutes left, even let's just say it's a college

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00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: what's the kipples to do? Just dribble out the thirty

834
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: second shock clock? Every what's the college basketball? Thirty five

835
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: seconds for thirty seconds? Now, same NBA you're supposed to

836
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: do just throw the ball out of bounds the end

837
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: of the shock clock. No, you gotta shoot the shot.

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00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: So who cares? Stop this is? This is the big

839
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: leagues slash high level college basketball. You gotta stoping. Hey, John,

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00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: thanks for reading this. I wanted to know if you

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00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: ever checked out some rugby. Las Vegas is hosting their

842
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: International sevens attorney this weekend. I I did stumble upon

843
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: the rugby sevens. I had a bunch of buddies at

844
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Speaker 1: cal Poli that played in college New some guys that

845
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: played at Cow that was, you know, the powerhouse in

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00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: rugby forever. I got no issues with rugby. Actually, if

847
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: you just show me a sweet rugby game, I just

848
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: don't really know the rules that well because I always

849
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: like rugby more than soccer. Now I've kind of grown

850
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: to like soccer more than rugby. There is no disputing

851
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: to play a high level of rugby. Some of these

852
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: international games. When you see Australia playing New Zealand or

853
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: the UK, those guys are badasses because they're not wearing paths,

854
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: they're hitting each other. I've always said, though, if our

855
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: best but I said this about soccer. But I know

856
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: you could make the argument soccers have just skilled sport

857
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: that even if our best athletes played soccer, we still

858
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: might not win in soccer. I would probably disagree with you,

859
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: but I understand it. You will never ever convince me.

860
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: If our best athletes and are badasses that play in

861
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: the NFL, some little guys that play in the NBA,

862
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: in the Mike Trouts even in baseball, focus on rugby,

863
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: we'd be the best rugby country in the world. I

864
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: don't think it would be close I'll believe that till

865
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: the day I die. I may have missed it, but

866
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: I haven't heard you mentioned Robert Kraft and the Penjing

867
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: allegations against him for solicitation. Considering a high percent of

868
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: process suits are victim of human trafficking, your platform go

869
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: a long way of shedding light on how disgusting it is.

870
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you're waiting until more info comes out. I said

871
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: that I've talked about on all my other platforms. I

872
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: think it's pretty simple that everyone that I've ever talked

873
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: to about massage parlors call it a rubb and tuck

874
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: every single person. Every single where you go, people uh,

875
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: when you bring up a massage parlor. I got six

876
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: or seven in my community. I don't like massage parlors,

877
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: so I I just don't go. But we all know

878
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: what goes on on these things. So whether you're whether

879
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: you're super famous like Robert Kraft is, nobody people go.

880
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: Prostitution is the longest running profession in America. Now, I

881
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: know nothing about human trafficking, but here's what I do

882
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: know that Robert Kraft did not go. It's not financing

883
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: the human trafficking. I look at it upon like, yeah,

884
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: it's if the women are being held against their will.

885
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: It is I don't even know what to say. I

886
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: can't even begin and uh, it's just awful. That's beyond disgusting.

887
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: But they're all those men that went in there had

888
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: no clue. So and I've seen this analogy and I

889
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: do think it, you know, has some parallels. Forever people

890
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: went to jail if you bought a bag of weed.

891
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: Now it's legal where I live, I think you could

892
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: use if you bought cocaine. He went to party in Vegas.

893
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: If you buy a bag of cocaine, do you agree

894
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: with the with the cartels that they're killing a bunch

895
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: of people in Mexico. No, Now it's a little different

896
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: because you don't necessarily see the death. And technically, if

897
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: you solicit the prostitute, you are if she's being held

898
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: against your will. I mean that's pretty bad. But you

899
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Robber Craft didn't know. He just went to

900
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 1: get a release. It really is that simple, that black

901
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: and white. So did he break the lot? Sure, we

902
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: could argue where did the lie? Even starts? Kind of arbitrary, right,

903
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: because there's I know, about four hours away from me

904
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: in Nevada, it's legal. Now the woman that the details

905
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: that I've read is it was not these women. They're

906
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: trying to nail him on human trafficking. Are are not

907
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: uh collaborating? Now you could read other things that they

908
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: of course they're not collaberating, they're being help Why aren't

909
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: they going after the people that trafficked these women? I

910
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: think it is a complete waste of time to get

911
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: some seventy seven year old man unless he financed the

912
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: human trafficking, which I think we can all safely assume

913
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with wasting the time going

914
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: after Robert Kraft. To me, this is very politically driven that,

915
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: oh it's really famous. They nailed Robert Kraft. Why don't

916
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: you nail the people that are setting up all this

917
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: human trafficking? Like I I'm sorry, I just not offended

918
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: by by prostitution. It's the longest running profession in the

919
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: history of the world. Why because of men and women?

920
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: It's just it's that's google it longest running profession history

921
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: of America, prostitution because people are willing to pay for sex.

922
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I also see everyone on Twitter was just flabbergas that

923
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: Robert Craft went into one of these places even though

924
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: one you get off Twitter and everyone you talk to

925
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: everywhere you've ever been, whether you're in San Francisco, whether

926
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: you're in Philadelphia, whether you're in Texas, everyone jokes about

927
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: when they drive by a massage parlor, Oh, that's what's

928
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: going on in there, so then everyone's shocked. I just

929
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: think it's very disingenuous. If Robert Kraft had anything to

930
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: do with the human trafficking, he should immediately go to jail.

931
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: But again, I think it is beyond safe to assume

932
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with it. He went in

933
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: for a release and he got one. Like am I

934
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: supposed to think that he deserves jail time Now, I

935
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: think it's a complete waste of time. I think the

936
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: police just spend less time going after robber Craft and

937
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: more time going after the people that's set up. If

938
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: those women are being human trafficking, which again has not

939
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: been confirmed. Uh, and it's sure hasn't broken yet that

940
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: that that's what's going on. That's what was said. But

941
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: as we've seen, you gotta be careful with headlines. It's

942
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: Jesse Smollett a couple of weeks ago had everyone thinking

943
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: one thing and then another thing. Happened, So yeah, I mean,

944
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: is human trafficking. I'm naive. I'm not Naive's probab be

945
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: the wrong word. I know nothing really about it beside

946
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: that it's a beyond terrible, despicable, disgusting thing that goes

947
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: on in the world. But to think that I look

948
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: at Robert Kraft any differently than like most men that

949
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: walk into these places. And again, I have five or

950
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: six massage parlors in my own community in Walnut Creek.

951
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: I'll promise you one thing. Not all the moms in

952
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: this area are keeping them in business, So it'd be

953
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: naive to think that that's not how these things stay

954
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: up and running. That's my my. You know, it's probably

955
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: not the most PC thing to say, but that's just

956
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: a fact. Bagels fan here and consistent listeners. Steelers are

957
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: a mess, and I personally believe the Ravens can't be

958
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: consistently competitive with Lamar. Browns are undoubtedly improved, but still

959
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: feel like a wild card type team. How far out

960
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: are the Bengals in the a f C North mixed

961
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: in Green Dunlap, Jackson, third Gino are elite talents. We

962
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: can't be that far off, can we? I think Andy

963
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Dalt will have to play really well again. A j

964
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: Green was to have to stay healthy. They have huge

965
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: question marks with the head coach. I mean, he's a

966
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, he's super young. Can the guy be a

967
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL? For every Sean McVeigh, there

968
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: are a lot of failures all of all ages. So yeah,

969
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: the roster is not that terrible. And they just they

970
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: were actually sneaky humming this year. What were do they

971
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: start pretty well? Was it five and one or four

972
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: and four and one? They're just playing and they just

973
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: had a ton of injuries. But to think that Zach

974
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: Taylor it went bad for Marvin, But the chances that

975
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor is ever has the resume as a head

976
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: coach of Marvin Lewis, it's slimed a nun So, yeah,

977
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. They're not that far away.

978
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: But the difference in the NFL of being pretty close

979
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: and being a disaster is pretty slim. All these coaches

980
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: is cliche to say game of inches, game of bounced

981
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: ball here and there. The difference of six and ten

982
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: and nine and seven is legitimately four or five plays

983
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: and one broken leg or a torn a c l. Now,

984
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: the difference of four and twelve and eleven and five

985
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: is a lot bigger. But when you go nine and seven,

986
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: you just like, God, we were a play away from

987
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: ten and six. When you go six and ten, you

988
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: feel like three or four wins, it feels like you're

989
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna be drafting in the top five. So I, I

990
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: just don't His press conference was impressive. Uh watched him

991
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: since Nebraska when he was a player, but actually doing

992
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: it as a head coach is hard. We we just

993
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: do not know and until he coaches some games, and

994
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: it's not like Andy Dalton is this quarterback that anyone

995
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: can coach. He's kind of a niche guy. You know.

996
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: He's had some moments with the right coordinators and some

997
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: really good defenses. Dac Taylor couldn't even hire a defensive coordinator.

998
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: Took him like seven guys turned him down. I I I.

999
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: The more I talk about it, the more I don't

1000
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: feel that good. What do you think the Bears will

1001
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: do in the in terms of free agency and the draft,

1002
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: keep positions, trades, free agents, and signings. Well, Callahan the

1003
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: slot receiver. I think they're gonna try to resign. They

1004
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: resigned or extended before free agency. Bobby Massey right, so

1005
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: they got their offensive line pretty well together. They restructured

1006
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: Kyle Long's contract. I think Jordan Howard will be a

1007
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: guy that they looked to trade, and I they could

1008
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: probably get a fourth round pick for him. They don't

1009
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: have the first round pick the next two years because

1010
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: of Cleil Mack. Now they got Cleil Max, so who cares?

1011
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: Their second round picks not that good because it's way

1012
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: down the line. Now. Luckily, they got the Raiders second

1013
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: next year because of a pick swap, So even though

1014
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: they don't have the first round pick next year, they

1015
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: should keep their fingers crossed. The Raiders suck again, so

1016
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have a really high second round pick.

1017
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: When I think about the Bears, their defense is pretty stacked.

1018
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: Their d line is incredible. They still got Danny and

1019
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: they Roll Kwan Is a second year player. Their secondary

1020
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: floors under contract, Prince Is under contract, Eddie Jackson still young.

1021
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: Their defense pretty set. So let's go to offense. They

1022
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: probably need a more perfect running back in Naggie system,

1023
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: like they need a Kareem Hunt type. So will they

1024
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: draft a running back that fits Naggie to go with

1025
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: Rikon when they trade Jordan Howard. To me, that makes

1026
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: some sense. They got some young tight ends, they got

1027
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, they could probably draft another wide receiver if

1028
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: Mitch gets better. They are their Their team is already

1029
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: kind of ready to roll the Bears on paper. Pretty

1030
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: good question for the pod. Do you see britt Patriots

1031
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: drafting Tom Brady's future already kind of talked about that.

1032
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: If so, what round and what prospect? I say, over

1033
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: and over, I don't really like any these quarterbacks beside

1034
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: Haskins in Murray. That would be fair. I'm not a

1035
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: scout anymore, so I'm not just like diving diving into

1036
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: the tape. But I got no life. So Saturdays, for

1037
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: fifteen straight weeks, I watched college football all day and

1038
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: in my living room I got multiple TVs. Will Greer

1039
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: to me, you know, kind of a poor kind of

1040
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Mason RUDOLPHI. Daniel Jones is interesting, But yeah, who are

1041
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: the other I mean, beside Haskins and Kyler Murray? I

1042
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew almost quit football and went to coach for

1043
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: Nick Saban before Mike Leech signed him last year. Jake

1044
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Browning stinks. I just I don't know, you know, I

1045
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: maybe Bill if Bill drafts one in Bill Belichick, I trust,

1046
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: But until he pulls the trigger, I'm gonna stay lukewarm

1047
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: on this class. For a team like the Denver Broncos

1048
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: with multiple coaching changes in a short period of time,

1049
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: what is the impact on the scouting department? Do they

1050
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: have to adjust a new profile and aligned to the

1051
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: coaches style, ignored to avoid by I think it's really

1052
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: hard because schemes can change and it's easy to go, well,

1053
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: we don't like that type guy. We like this type guy.

1054
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: We ran a four three, but Vicky andre is gonna

1055
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: run a three four that that type is easy? But

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Speaker 1: what do they really look for? If you work with

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Speaker 1: a coach for five or six years and multiple assistance,

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Speaker 1: you kind of know how they think, what type guys

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Speaker 1: they like. The Broncos they changed like every other year.

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Speaker 1: How can they have any consistency. Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Elway lost his right hand guy in Adam Peters and

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Speaker 1: John Lynch. That was a person pretty important. I guess

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Speaker 1: he still has Matt Russell. But yeah, it's really difficult.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all can You don't need to be

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Speaker 1: you know, Ozzy Knewsome to go. You know, if we

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Speaker 1: run a Seattle type defense, the type players we look for,

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Speaker 1: or Vic Fangio type defense, the players he's gonna look for.

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Speaker 1: But what players does he truly like? You asked the guys,

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Speaker 1: the scouting guys, and I got a couple of buddies

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Speaker 1: on the staff, non coaching staff, but on the on

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Speaker 1: the scouting staff about Vic Fangio. They know what he likes,

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Speaker 1: what specific play like. Everyone's gonna like Cleil mc. But

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Speaker 1: why he liked the chem Hicks or why he liked

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith or why he loved Eddie Jackson. You just

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Speaker 1: know exactly what he's looking for. And we got no

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Speaker 1: clue what these guys are looking for on offense. So

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Speaker 1: it's I deal. I mean, I was with Andy for

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Speaker 1: two and a half years and then Chip came that

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Speaker 1: last six months, I only lasted to the draft. It

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Speaker 1: was really hard for all those guys. Now, Chip is

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Speaker 1: really extreme. You know Vic won't be that extreme, But

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Speaker 1: Vix also never been a head coach. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know exactly what he's gonna look for on defense, and

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Speaker 1: I think they can figure that out fast. But what

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Speaker 1: does he wanted off. I don't even know what his

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Speaker 1: offensive philosophy is, run pass, who know who knows? We're

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Speaker 1: about to find out. Thanks for listening. If I didn't

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Speaker 1: get your question, I'll get to it on Friday. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait. This was a fun podcast, good time a

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Speaker 1: year for some NFL college football combine. We'll just keep

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Speaker 1: it rolling, baby, have a good week three Now Podcast,

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