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Speaker 1: Here from the Star in Frisco. The bye week is
Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. It is back to business,
Speaker 1: game week. Back to business as the Minnesota Vikings are
Speaker 1: ahead on the schedule, the Cowboys are five and one,
Speaker 1: and we've got plenty to talk about even after a
Speaker 1: couple of days off. Heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah stand back,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how are we doing well? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Everybody rested up, ready to go? Yeah, you're ready to roll.
Speaker 1: Eleven week stretch. Maybe let's go. Let's do it. That's
Speaker 1: the thing, as I was about to say, for the
Speaker 1: final stretch, it's not a final stretch. It's a long
Speaker 1: way away till the end of the regular season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Levn guaranteed, right, Yep, Levin guarantee. McCarthy actually says he
Speaker 1: loves it though, because if you go all the way
Speaker 1: back to training camp, it's halfway between started started training
Speaker 1: camp and the end of the season if the season
Speaker 1: goes as long as they hope it does. So it
Speaker 1: ended up working out perfectly. You could look at it
Speaker 1: that way. Didn't he say that? He thought that the
Speaker 1: bye week, the way it was situated, and then in
Speaker 1: the way that Thanksgiving lies was kind of like a
Speaker 1: second bye week, like a half by. Ultimately, what is that? Like? Why? Like,
Speaker 1: how does it work out that way? Because I always
Speaker 1: feel like the Cowboys get the route end of the stick.
Speaker 1: We got back to back Thursday night games, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: Thursday games, right, So then you factor in you got Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 1: Sunday off, So you end up having a ten day window,
Speaker 1: which is is not really a bye week. But really,
Speaker 1: bye weeks are really just a couple of days off
Speaker 1: for most guys. In case people didn't know, it's not
Speaker 1: an entire week that guys just stay out of the building.
Speaker 1: Coach usually gives you, like the weekend off. So usually
Speaker 1: get like the Friday, Saturday, Sunday off or maybe a
Speaker 1: Thursday if you have a really good coach, really nice coach,
Speaker 1: but you get three to three to three to four
Speaker 1: days off, really three most likely. So it's that's that's
Speaker 1: what the bye week consists of. So guys really get
Speaker 1: the weekends to go just hang with their families, chill,
Speaker 1: but they're not totally detached from football. I missed you, guys,
Speaker 1: I saw you. Well, yeah, we we We dealt with
Speaker 1: some stuff for a couple of days. Yeah. I get
Speaker 1: the way, Isaiah. The CBA has changed that they will
Speaker 1: automatically get four days off. Now, well there you go.
Speaker 1: There my game the whole week off too. He did.
Speaker 1: Yeah really yeah. They didn't do anything on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they face for everybody. They do have practice, full
Speaker 1: padded practice today. Yeah, welcome back. So what were you
Speaker 1: saying about dealing with some stuff. I'm dealing with anything.
Speaker 1: I was a pete. Pete took on everything, all right.
Speaker 1: I was a colt the whole way. And I didn't even.
Speaker 1: What I didn't do was I didn't piss Mickey off.
Speaker 1: You saw that I think he did. I did not
Speaker 1: you talk about the last little part where I was saying, book,
Speaker 1: book your tickets. I think when you intimated that he
Speaker 1: had a typewriter at home, I don't think you like that.
Speaker 1: I think I could see the steam kind of curling
Speaker 1: a little bit out the years. He doesn't show. Mickey
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he will let something go either. No,
Speaker 1: he's that was just a shout out to the old school.
Speaker 1: That's all that was. Hateful is strong. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: the hold of grudge on you. Yeah, yeah, that so good.
Speaker 1: It was good. I love Mickey. It was just you know,
Speaker 1: it's a different dynamic on that show. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I've lived it. Every shi man's true. Hey, Bill John
Speaker 1: that show. Phil Jones gave you an awesome compliment. He
Speaker 1: sure did open the show up with it. He did
Speaker 1: awesome compliments. Said you better watch out for Isaiah stand back.
Speaker 1: He's you know, I can't speak like he's awesome, but
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, he's an extra line. We won't have
Speaker 1: him here pretty long. Here's a rising star, rising star
Speaker 1: just working. You know. ESPN buddies right here, here we
Speaker 1: go over my ESPN buddies right here, knock it out.
Speaker 1: They went. They did not. Oh yeah, North Texas lost.
Speaker 1: Now we're biased, we're bias biased. We're the network at
Speaker 1: that right, Okay, superprivacy, guys on there, Yeah, superprivacy you
Speaker 1: guys on there. That's freaking awesome. That was a ton
Speaker 1: of fun. And heckma I told him this, and I'll
Speaker 1: say this on the air too. He had the best
Speaker 1: game he's ever had. And he's had really good games
Speaker 1: all the way through. He had the best game he's
Speaker 1: ever had the Sea League. He is awesome. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get down to business. The bye week is in
Speaker 1: the rearview mirror. All of us had a little bit
Speaker 1: of extra time off, but the Cowboys had all of
Speaker 1: the time off this week. Like you guys just said,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did not hit the field at all. Rob
Speaker 1: Any news and notes coming out of the bye week.
Speaker 1: Any updates on one injury of a guy who wears
Speaker 1: number four and certainly plays the quarterback position. Ah, well,
Speaker 1: we will see. I think with his strained calf, is
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Dak Prescott. I get the impression they're
Speaker 1: pretty confident he's gonna play in this game. That being said,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Don't say I reported that I
Speaker 1: think everything's got to go right this week. I think
Speaker 1: he's got it. I don't know if he's gonna do
Speaker 1: anything on the field today. The plan was for him
Speaker 1: to get rechecked again today, and I think that's more
Speaker 1: of all right, good looking, good healing Wednesday, let's see
Speaker 1: if we can get you into practice. And so, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've played the position. I don't know if you've had
Speaker 1: a strained calf. But there's other things that have to
Speaker 1: go right. I mean you could say, yeah, we feel
Speaker 1: like he's gonna play, he's got to do some You
Speaker 1: would think he's got to do something in practice and
Speaker 1: not have a setback, not be really sore the next day,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But I think I think
Speaker 1: they think it's trending towards he'll be available Sunday. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: What is that like from Like you said, you shook
Speaker 1: your head when you when asked if you've dealt with
Speaker 1: the strain cap but I'm certain you've been around people
Speaker 1: who have dealt with those. What is that timetable normally like,
Speaker 1: because we know Dak is normally ahead of the schedule
Speaker 1: and a cur a couple different. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think there's there's when it comes to muscle stranger's different grades, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't think that they've released, at least I
Speaker 1: haven't heard that they've released what grade of strain he has. UM.
Speaker 1: So it could be anywhere from you know you need
Speaker 1: seven days off too, it could be you need months off,
Speaker 1: depending on how severe it is. So Um, from what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing from Rob pe and and and the other
Speaker 1: murmurs around is it doesn't seem like it's that bad
Speaker 1: of a strain. Uh he did. He did just have
Speaker 1: a week off, which is awesome. Um. I doubt that
Speaker 1: he had the quote unquote week off. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: he was in here every day probably bands yeah with
Speaker 1: it with the training staff. So um. If it was me,
Speaker 1: I'm pinning obviously, not knowing how how severe it is,
Speaker 1: I would give him to Wednesday. The reason why is
Speaker 1: you got Monday. I don't know if they plan on
Speaker 1: practice in tomorrow too. We're just just scheduled so crazy anyways,
Speaker 1: So I would give him to Wednesday to have a
Speaker 1: couple of extra days of treatment, um and to get
Speaker 1: him back into it. Um. Because also you can get
Speaker 1: your backup ready just in case, right, you could use
Speaker 1: today as an opportunity to get your backup some reps
Speaker 1: just in case he's unable to go. He's a familiarized
Speaker 1: with the players, the guys have some confidence in the backup.
Speaker 1: All that jazz um. That's Cooper, right, Cooper, Yeah, Coop,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. I think I would use today to get
Speaker 1: him some reps because that doesn't necessarily need the reps today.
Speaker 1: Not saying that we couldn't, you couldn't use them, but
Speaker 1: let's get used today to get Cooper Rush ready just
Speaker 1: in case, keeping in a chamber um, and then let's
Speaker 1: reevaluated today obviously, and if he's ready to roll kicking
Speaker 1: back up on Wednesday. Have you had an injury like that?
Speaker 1: I have not had a calf strain. I've had pretty
Speaker 1: much everything else, so but calf strain I have not.
Speaker 1: I've had achilles, I've had foot, I've had knee, I've
Speaker 1: had shoulders, but never a calf. And do you think
Speaker 1: all of these things, like the calf industry, all of that,
Speaker 1: it's just a culmination of the ankle injury and trying
Speaker 1: to you never know, right, you never know. I mean
Speaker 1: you're speaking in terms of compensation, right, is he compensating.
Speaker 1: Is his body naturally compensating for his ankle um. You don't,
Speaker 1: You don't know, You really don't know. I honestly think
Speaker 1: it might have just been just a freak thing and
Speaker 1: nobody will ever know the answer to that. Just just
Speaker 1: turning and there's i mean, the angle on what she's
Speaker 1: throwing on. He's coming out, he's torking on that thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of ligaments, a lot of
Speaker 1: muscles in there. So it happened. But again, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's blessed to have the amazing training staff here and doctors.
Speaker 1: These guys are the best. Yeah, they went straight to
Speaker 1: the MRI machine. That's everybody is blue Star imaging. Is
Speaker 1: it's busy, then get clear out of the waiting room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they gonna get that. Somebody got pulled off the table
Speaker 1: from the absolutely machine. No. But but you know, we
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the second and third quarterback heading
Speaker 1: into the season because of getting rid of getting rid
Speaker 1: of of some guys and keep Cooper Rush winning that
Speaker 1: backup position. We don't want to talk about the backup
Speaker 1: position this early in the season. Hoping and praying that
Speaker 1: Dak is going to be healthy enough to play for
Speaker 1: the Vikings game. Everything is leading that way. I hadn't
Speaker 1: heard anything to the to the contrary, and so if
Speaker 1: it was, Pete would obviously give us the bad news
Speaker 1: for you. Maybe he'll give it to us. But this
Speaker 1: is game. This is definitely a game going into the way.
Speaker 1: We're gonna need Dak to be healthy because there's gonna
Speaker 1: be so much dependent on him and his legs because
Speaker 1: this this Vikings defense. As we'll get to later in
Speaker 1: the week. Boy, they for real. Yeah, you won this
Speaker 1: game last year without Dak Prescott, but everything went right
Speaker 1: for you, and everything went right for Andy Dalton and
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and a couple different guys in order to
Speaker 1: win this game. This is not the same Minnesota team.
Speaker 1: They're starting to fire on all cylinders. They're pretty good.
Speaker 1: One what is it, three straight two out of the
Speaker 1: last three. I haven't really looked that far ahead yet,
Speaker 1: but three and three right, yeah? Yeah? They had their
Speaker 1: buy two yeah, and their rest rested up as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to have that conversation, but I
Speaker 1: think we need to have that conversation of are we
Speaker 1: comfortable at the backup quarterback spot. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm to the bubble guts scenario yet that we've talked
Speaker 1: about previously on this show, because the Cowboys are five
Speaker 1: and one, But I'm getting there if we're looking at
Speaker 1: an extended period of time, especially with some of the
Speaker 1: teams coming up on the schedule, the Minnesota Vikings being
Speaker 1: one of those that you could certainly lose to. Are
Speaker 1: you guys comfortable at backup quarterback a moment, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not Cooper rush No. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's all just conjecture at this point because we
Speaker 1: don't know the severity of the injury, but you know,
Speaker 1: I just I think it's the role that you're you're
Speaker 1: having right now with the five victories, the confidence that
Speaker 1: you have within the building. You don't want to compromise
Speaker 1: any of that. And you talk about last season, there
Speaker 1: was like the stars had to align, We had to
Speaker 1: have so many things go right to pull that victory out.
Speaker 1: And that was a solid game by Andy Dalton in
Speaker 1: the clutch catch by Ceedee Lamb in the end zone also,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was nuts. What At the same time,
Speaker 1: we just have a different team, different mentality at going
Speaker 1: right now, and you don't want to see this end
Speaker 1: due to an injury. But I don't feel comfortable. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Does any team feel comfortable with their backup
Speaker 1: quarterback situations? Yeah, San Francisco, San Francisco does. But like,
Speaker 1: there're four teams with a better record than the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in the NFC right now. That's awesome and it's wild.
Speaker 1: That shows you how good this conference is. But I
Speaker 1: can't name all the backups for those teams. So, and
Speaker 1: those teams are right in the hunt, just like this team.
Speaker 1: So I don't think any teams just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're good. Dandy Dalton thing was a gift from God
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, guy, a guy that's yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: divine intervention. He's from Texas. You know that that that's
Speaker 1: not there. I think Cooper rush they have confidence that
Speaker 1: he can run the same offense. Is it idea? Would
Speaker 1: that be ideal? Absolutely not, of course not. I think
Speaker 1: they're hoping that's not going to be the case. Now
Speaker 1: if if Dak doesn't play in this game, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody should freak out. I think they're looking. They
Speaker 1: would be taking a long term picture of like, look,
Speaker 1: let's not rush him back. This week and potentially re
Speaker 1: injure something. Oh that could be a headline, didn't you.
Speaker 1: Let's not rush him back? That might be as Nick upstairs. Um,
Speaker 1: but who feels great about your back? Honestly, if you're contending,
Speaker 1: is is anybody comfortable there? Yeah? Some teams feel better
Speaker 1: better than others. Um, you guys know how I didn't.
Speaker 1: It was no secret how I felt about the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback position here coming into the season. No disrespect to Russia,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to any of the backups in the league.
Speaker 1: Guys bust their tail to be in a position. I
Speaker 1: just feel that from what we saw in the preseason,
Speaker 1: there was nothing that gave me any indication of confidence
Speaker 1: coming into the season with him as a backup. I
Speaker 1: know he's probably working his tail off, but I just
Speaker 1: didn't see it in the preseason. I saw a lack
Speaker 1: of confidence. I saw a lack of confidence in the players.
Speaker 1: I saw the deflation of motivation by the players when
Speaker 1: when he was in a game, he just wasn't there.
Speaker 1: So I do not feel comfortable, comfortable or confident with
Speaker 1: that with that situation, So uh, let's rush back nobody? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is, man, it's just
Speaker 1: to your point that I agree, no team wants to
Speaker 1: see their backup come into game, but some teams feel
Speaker 1: more confident with their backups. From the Dallas Cowboys. Do
Speaker 1: any thoughts to resting Dak though, I mean, like you said, Rob,
Speaker 1: if it is indeed he is inactive come Sunday, then
Speaker 1: sure it's not a freak out moment because it's still
Speaker 1: not supposed to be a long term injury. But if
Speaker 1: you're playing the long game and you're looking at this as, wow,
Speaker 1: this is a seventeen game season, let's try and man,
Speaker 1: let's try and make sure he's ready to go for
Speaker 1: the final couple weeks. Is there any thought to maybe
Speaker 1: holding him back a little bit this week? I think
Speaker 1: only if you feel like he's not going to be
Speaker 1: able to function, or if there's you feel like he
Speaker 1: could reinjure this thing worse, because those soft tissue injuries,
Speaker 1: as Isaiah knows, the second time, could be a lot worse.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think from that perspective, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they look at it like let's just
Speaker 1: sit him out. I mean, he may be ready, perfectly ready,
Speaker 1: but we're just gonna sit him out, anyway, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. You mentioned seventeen games. There's only one buy
Speaker 1: in the NFC this year, and I don't care what
Speaker 1: people say. You want to advance through the playoffs without
Speaker 1: having to play a game. I know people talk about
Speaker 1: rest can be rusted and all that. I think they
Speaker 1: would take that bye. They're currently fourth best record in
Speaker 1: the NFC because they played one less game, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of competition for that spot, so try to
Speaker 1: get every game you can. Now. The rest factor has
Speaker 1: never even entered into my mind. I think you got
Speaker 1: to have all your dogs ready to go. This is
Speaker 1: the push that we want to make. I mean, you
Speaker 1: no sense and even talking about rest at this point
Speaker 1: unless you obviously he's compromised, and if he's compromised, and
Speaker 1: obviously he's not going to put himself out there, but
Speaker 1: we're not in a position to even consider that. I
Speaker 1: would be thinking about it this man. We got to
Speaker 1: stand up on the motor right now. We got it's
Speaker 1: full steam ahead. And if every like I said, all
Speaker 1: everything that we have to play for is in front
Speaker 1: of us, and we have the team, we have the
Speaker 1: coaching staff. We've been talking about this all week. What
Speaker 1: is this the culture going to be like you and
Speaker 1: you always said this, at this one. Every body's nicked up,
Speaker 1: everybody's heard, everybody's dealing with something. It's just our turn.
Speaker 1: We just have to go forward with it. And this
Speaker 1: is such a benchmark game. I mean at Minnesota, a
Speaker 1: team that matches up pretty well with you, I mean
Speaker 1: toe for toe, they got some guys. Then you come
Speaker 1: back home for a couple Denver, Atlanta, then you're at
Speaker 1: Kansas City, which, guys, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: watch that game yesterday, Kansas City's what's going on? What's
Speaker 1: going on with Kansas City? What's going on with Patrick Mahome?
Speaker 1: Sixteen picks in his last sixteen games. That's not very good,
Speaker 1: is it? Well, it's crazy thing. Yeah, you know, they're
Speaker 1: a light switch away though. Yeah, that's the craziest thing
Speaker 1: about those guys. As bad as they're playing, everybody's like waiting,
Speaker 1: just like when they all right here, they got everybody
Speaker 1: to turn the corner. You just hope that's not week
Speaker 1: eleven exactly. Let's not let that happen that week. So no, no,
Speaker 1: we are not resting Dak Prescott. If he's good to go,
Speaker 1: you're going no extra rest. We're rolling Barney Rubble. What
Speaker 1: does that reference? That one? You don't know the stone flints?
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's pretty good. That is good. That needs
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Speaker 1: Bowl Champion Isaiah stand back, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's and gentlemen, we have we had a
Speaker 1: little extra time to kind of moll over this five
Speaker 1: and one start for the Cowboys. Cowboys five and one
Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty sixteen. They're doing a
Speaker 1: lot of good things at the moment, But who are
Speaker 1: winners and losers of the first six weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: I want each of you to get me one of both.
Speaker 1: It can be the same person if you want it
Speaker 1: to be, doesn't really matter. And I'll start off with
Speaker 1: heck my Harrison on this one, winner and loser through
Speaker 1: the first six weeks of the season for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: So I went back and watched all six games. That
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me, it doesn't surprise you. Okay, so did
Speaker 1: that man number ninety four, Randy Gregory. Man, he is
Speaker 1: a big part of the success that we're having on defense.
Speaker 1: I know Michael Parsons has gotten a lot of the
Speaker 1: highlight real moments, but ninety four is his bull rushby
Speaker 1: and the way that he's changing up certain things. And
Speaker 1: I heard him in an interview just saying that hack
Speaker 1: got to be better, uh, and certain downs of not
Speaker 1: just giving myself away with continuously continuously using the same rush.
Speaker 1: I just think he's making He's so impactful for us,
Speaker 1: and if he continues this, I know this is a
Speaker 1: contract year, but ninety four is gonna be around for
Speaker 1: a very long time because he is absolutely putting the
Speaker 1: tape out there. And I'm happy for Randy Gregory do
Speaker 1: what I do my right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go for the losing and I know this is someone
Speaker 1: that my guy over here, Isaiah is loves this guy.
Speaker 1: But send me for Hoko right now is losing the
Speaker 1: battle at the wide receiver position. And that's just Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson UH and Noah Brown are playing out of their
Speaker 1: minds right now. And I'm not even basing this on
Speaker 1: on what they're doing on offensively. I just think what
Speaker 1: special teams wise, both of these guys are major contributors,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know how for Hooko is able
Speaker 1: to get on the field Uh with when Mike g
Speaker 1: comes back. Yeah, that's tough because even with MALIEK. Turner
Speaker 1: and what he's doing special teams wise. That's that's my
Speaker 1: only point. Now, that's your six. That's your six that
Speaker 1: you could roll with the rest of the year and
Speaker 1: feel just fine about. What about you, Isaiah? For my winner,
Speaker 1: I'm going with mister Schultzeneger. That's a great one. The
Speaker 1: Schultzenegger is the pinnacle of consistency. Boy, that boy is consistent.
Speaker 1: If you look at him, if you look at his
Speaker 1: I mean he's been what six five six catches a game, right,
Speaker 1: sixty seventy a game. Very assistant, very Whitney. When he
Speaker 1: took that starting job, he took it. He didn't borrow it.
Speaker 1: He took it all right. Week one six catches, Week
Speaker 1: two two catches. But we'll forgive him for that Week three, six,
Speaker 1: Week four, six, Week five six, Week six, the boys
Speaker 1: killing it well, that's about a five cats average around there,
Speaker 1: So he's doing a heck of a job. Um for
Speaker 1: the loser, I'm gonna go with Maurice Kennedy. Kennedy, Mo
Speaker 1: Kennedy for what we saw in camp to what we're
Speaker 1: now seeing in the in the games, I like, I
Speaker 1: like to send me pick, but my expectations were were
Speaker 1: exactly where he's at right now. No disrespect based off
Speaker 1: of what you Yeah, based on what I saw Ricky Minicamp,
Speaker 1: I had already check the box. Uh. But but more Kennedy,
Speaker 1: I think we had high expectations. We've been from out
Speaker 1: of camp and he had an amazing camp and we
Speaker 1: have not seen that carry over to the field. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that his performance has been bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that he's not getting the playing time.
Speaker 1: So something is occurring that's not giving them the confidence
Speaker 1: to put him on the field. Whether that's somebody else's
Speaker 1: play is elevated and not and they don't they don't
Speaker 1: feel like he's competing to that level, or he's not
Speaker 1: he's not taking care of business in practice. But you've
Speaker 1: been on rosters where you've seen guys have outstanding preseasons
Speaker 1: and then when it comes to the regular season that
Speaker 1: I use, I mean, what could possibly be happening. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of different factors. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: different factors. Like I said, maybe a Browns is playing
Speaker 1: that good, right, maybe he's just playing that well. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we see Jordan Lewis in there. You know,
Speaker 1: we Lewis getting paid a lot, He's not having to
Speaker 1: play a lot. That's a good combo. But you know,
Speaker 1: but I thought I was expecting to see a lot
Speaker 1: more more Kennedy because of his side, his size, and
Speaker 1: his versatility. So in his camp too, I mean camp,
Speaker 1: a strong camp. Yeah, Jordan Lewis has played over two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five snaps. Maurice Kennedy has played a
Speaker 1: total of forty two, So it you wouldn't think that
Speaker 1: it would be that lopsided. Even think at least I'm
Speaker 1: coming out of camp. Heck, No, I don't even I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even say even just because of the contract for
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. Yea, but forty two compared to two seventy five,
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty skewed. Yeah, that's gonna be something, right, Yeah, something,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. That's good. Good duo there.
Speaker 1: What about you? Rob Winners and Loser winner? Kellen Moore?
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is in his bag. We've established that this
Speaker 1: keeps up. He's gonna have gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: voicemails on his phone in January. February wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to him for head coaching number. Yeah, list it, you know,
Speaker 1: give him a burner phone, something like it. Um, Jerry
Speaker 1: Joey's gonna flip a switch in his office. Is gonna
Speaker 1: emp to sell lines here? Jerry probably just buy all
Speaker 1: the phone companies. I watched The Departed for the first
Speaker 1: time last week. That's where I got on the good movie. Um, losing,
Speaker 1: is anybody a loser? Right now? With the way this
Speaker 1: team is playing? Here's the question I have Donovan Wilson
Speaker 1: what he's back from injury? This safety rotation is, I
Speaker 1: am you're how how many snaps are available with that
Speaker 1: safety position hybrid. You know, Curse is not coming off
Speaker 1: the field, whether you want to call him a safety, linebacker, hybrid, whatever, kazy.
Speaker 1: You know last week's issued off the field, notwithstanding is
Speaker 1: a starter. Malie Cooker's coming on. Somebody's gonna have to
Speaker 1: sacrifice snaps now that Donna's and as Dan Quinn said,
Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have. It's it's a product
Speaker 1: of success and depth. But I don't know how they
Speaker 1: distribute all that. And you know, Donno is a guy
Speaker 1: that's used to play in a lot, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna get as many snaps now as
Speaker 1: necessarily he did last year. And I'm wondering if the
Speaker 1: that's gonna be divvied up more as he gets back
Speaker 1: and fully healthy. I wonder if he came back a
Speaker 1: little early because he saw what was happening on the
Speaker 1: safety at the safety position, because he went from fifty
Speaker 1: five snaps against Tampa Bay to sitting out those games
Speaker 1: and then hitting fourteen snaps on the field against New England.
Speaker 1: So maybe that was him saying, hey, I gotta get back.
Speaker 1: You gotta get back, even though he maybe wasn't one
Speaker 1: hundred percent ready. Is that something that could possibility be
Speaker 1: a possibility there? I don't know, Man, Curse, I think
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, I think Curse is over ninety percent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's playing almost every snap. But we have not had
Speaker 1: we have not been together since that whole little Dui
Speaker 1: thing occurred with Casey. Do you think that he plays
Speaker 1: his game? I do this game, Yes, I do. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about from the outside, I'm talking about internally.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they look at possibly not playing
Speaker 1: him or some form of punishment. That's that's my question.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's to your point, it's a new staff
Speaker 1: since since they've had an issue like this off the
Speaker 1: field that I can remember anyway, in the last two years,
Speaker 1: So I don't know what their policy. I would think
Speaker 1: he would unless there's NFL punishment involved, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that for sure. Nobody's really addressed it. Jerry was
Speaker 1: asked about on the Fan Friday and just said we're
Speaker 1: not aware of all the details, and that they hadn't
Speaker 1: heard from the and the fact that they hadn't heard
Speaker 1: from the NFL either, So those are I think for
Speaker 1: all NFL teams, and it's unfortunate guys don't take advantage
Speaker 1: of the car service that's available to him. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's a whole separate issue altogether. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that they can. I don't know what the CBA, it's
Speaker 1: a part of that. If obviously there's going to be
Speaker 1: some kind of punishment that does come down, we don't
Speaker 1: know if he's in some program or whatever right now,
Speaker 1: so it's just gotta you gotta wait until that actually
Speaker 1: comes up. I don't think that our coach and staff
Speaker 1: would go, hey, we're gonna set you out now, knowing
Speaker 1: that how bad you need Kazy in this game. I
Speaker 1: know as a as a head coach, that is a
Speaker 1: as a sucky position to be in, because optics wise,
Speaker 1: if you don't hand down any form of punishment internally,
Speaker 1: what does that look like? But it's but in the
Speaker 1: punishment always come from the NFL and not the organization.
Speaker 1: It doesn't always have to doesn't have to. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: haven't done that in the past. Yeah, they haven't handed
Speaker 1: out their own punishment. I'm just saying if I was
Speaker 1: playing a head coach position, that's a tough position to
Speaker 1: be in. Because no, I'm asking you asking you, do
Speaker 1: you know of organizations that say we're gonna get ahead
Speaker 1: of this and go ahead and suspend you for two games.
Speaker 1: Guys give guys get fine and stuff. Oh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know about suspension. I don't think I've been
Speaker 1: a part of a suspension per se. But guys have
Speaker 1: gotten their playing time doctor because of that. I asked
Speaker 1: Barry Church that question on Wednesday, and he said the
Speaker 1: exact same thing. He's like, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: remember a guy getting suspended by the team for doing
Speaker 1: something like that. However, fines were certainly handed out. They
Speaker 1: were maybe you or maybe he doesn't play that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen guys not played till half time. You know,
Speaker 1: the first half, you don't you don't get to play.
Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that. You know that is that enough?
Speaker 1: I don't know there is who who doesn't decide what's enough.
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking optics wise, like it. It's not
Speaker 1: a good look. It's not a good look. Now, it's
Speaker 1: not a good look. But if that does happen and
Speaker 1: he's suspended, I have full faith in Mali Cooker. He's
Speaker 1: shown us enough. But back to what you were saying
Speaker 1: about Wilson, I think it's the Curses effect. Ye, curses
Speaker 1: has come in and he is playing so dad going good.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put it le but it's a
Speaker 1: good curse, but it is a good and right now
Speaker 1: Wilson just has an immovable object in front of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is making an impact. And even
Speaker 1: when you do the sounds of the game, which is
Speaker 1: so cool. I don't know who is responsible for the
Speaker 1: sounds of the game. Alex, Alex is doing a hell
Speaker 1: of a job. Subtitles are the best. Yeah that I
Speaker 1: need him sometime, you know, because some of these guys
Speaker 1: are from different places. You're not understanding everything he's saying.
Speaker 1: I mean the cuss words like he you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all the livelong day, let's do that's all. It's the best, right,
Speaker 1: but all of that's good. And you just see for him,
Speaker 1: Curse the guy that wasn't even on this roster last
Speaker 1: year taking the reins and being a leader and kind
Speaker 1: of telling guys that're like, come on, man, lock in,
Speaker 1: we all in. I love to see that because I
Speaker 1: go back to the Baltimore game last year when we
Speaker 1: pan to the sideline that everybody was dejected and we
Speaker 1: didn't have a leader like that, So maybe that's a
Speaker 1: big part of it as well. When we talk about
Speaker 1: guys like Mole Kennedy that is not able to get
Speaker 1: on the field, leadership also plays a big part of absolutely.
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, by the way, just interesting just looking at
Speaker 1: his snap counts all the way through free safety, played
Speaker 1: thirty two snaps against Tampa Bay, played just three with
Speaker 1: New England at free safety. Then he played fourteen snaps
Speaker 1: in the box, which is where we think. I guess overall,
Speaker 1: we think Donovan Wilson belongs in the box, right I
Speaker 1: think of him. That's the way I think of it
Speaker 1: as well. Fourteen snaps against Tampa Bay in Week one,
Speaker 1: and he had four snaps in the box against New England,
Speaker 1: So I mean he's been used in a couple different spots.
Speaker 1: So maybe it is the combination of guys like Kazy
Speaker 1: and Curse going in there and taking some snaps away
Speaker 1: from Dono. Okay, I've got a winner and loser. Two.
Speaker 1: I could go with a couple different guys that you
Speaker 1: guys didn't name. Treyvon Diggs certainly a winner. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: certainly a winner. Even with the calf injury, he has
Speaker 1: played out of his mind. He is certainly in the
Speaker 1: MVP conversation. If you asked me, yeah, I'll jump out
Speaker 1: of the cake for that. He's in the MVP conversation.
Speaker 1: Dak Diggs could certainly be in there. Two. RG three
Speaker 1: put up like rankings the other day, really funny. RG
Speaker 1: three of course not a Cowboys guy, but he put
Speaker 1: up rankings for his top five MVP candidates right now.
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs was number five. He was in the top
Speaker 1: five though. It's the last defensive guy to win it.
Speaker 1: M that's a good question. I don't know off the
Speaker 1: top of my head. It's really a quarterback award, honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: or it has been historically. You could throw Derek Henry
Speaker 1: in that race too, I think right now for sure
Speaker 1: as a non quarterback. You see what they did against
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But I'm gonna go with Ezekiel Elliott as
Speaker 1: my winner, and just the way that he's run the ball.
Speaker 1: He's been able to kind of silence some of the
Speaker 1: doubters over the last couple of weeks, and after a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season where he even said it was a
Speaker 1: show blank show. I'm not I can't say it on
Speaker 1: the air, but he was upset with his twenty twenty output.
Speaker 1: But twenty twenty one has certainly been much different for
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he has taken full reins of being
Speaker 1: a key contributor or a cornerstone for this offense. And
Speaker 1: so I could count him as a winner. My loser,
Speaker 1: I would put Tristan Hill, And the reason why is
Speaker 1: because Nabel Gallimore is probably gonna be back before Hill.
Speaker 1: He's not been available through training camp, through the preseason,
Speaker 1: all the way up until this point. Still doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's going to be ready to go for the
Speaker 1: coming weeks. At least at this point. From what we've
Speaker 1: been told, Nabel Gallimore is going to come back. Oh
Speaker 1: Digizoo is playing exceptionally well. Carlos Watkins comes in on
Speaker 1: a one year deal. He's been a leader on that
Speaker 1: defensive line. Brent Urban's a one year deal and he's
Speaker 1: been playing really well. I think it's kind of the
Speaker 1: same thing with Donovan Wilson in the safety conversation, except
Speaker 1: I think can a step up. Where do you put
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill in the rotation? At that point there's four
Speaker 1: guys right there, And that's not to mention even some
Speaker 1: of the mixing and matching that dan Quinn can do
Speaker 1: on that front line. I think it's tough to see
Speaker 1: where Hill fits in. I don't even know if it's
Speaker 1: guaranteed he comes off pup this year at all. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe not. I mean there's a window there.
Speaker 1: They can start him now on practice and it's three
Speaker 1: weeks and I think it might be another two weeks
Speaker 1: after that, and they can just see how he's doing
Speaker 1: and with your the depth, like you said, if he's
Speaker 1: not ready, then they don't have to do this. So
Speaker 1: to your point, I mean, he may not play this.
Speaker 1: I mean who knows or if if he does play,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's gonna be probably a limited role
Speaker 1: provided these guys stay healthy, you hope. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I can see them kicking the can to rob
Speaker 1: his words, kick the can down and wrote for a
Speaker 1: Hill as pretty much you put him in, you put
Speaker 1: him on the hip, right, he's these extra AMMO if
Speaker 1: you if you run out of AMO, if you have
Speaker 1: to shoot, you shoot your shots and you run out,
Speaker 1: you know, boom, you can go straight to the hip
Speaker 1: and bring him in. But if you don't need him,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna put him in and just wait on
Speaker 1: that save a roster spot. I mean, the same thing
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with Simme Simeill. Just he'll be on,
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be sitting on the sideline to next year.
Speaker 1: I just think it's weird. I think it's weird that
Speaker 1: we went from twenty twenty not having any depth to
Speaker 1: now in twenty twenty one, we got so much depth
Speaker 1: in those two spots, on two spots where we need.
Speaker 1: Like last year we were, man, we were just hey,
Speaker 1: we were getting guys off the street coming in here.
Speaker 1: Please try off for the Cowboys to be a defensive linemen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go, I mean seriously and now. And we talked
Speaker 1: about Tristan Hill last year. He was having a pretty
Speaker 1: solid year and once he blows his knee up and
Speaker 1: obviously getting that back, and we talk about Brent Brown
Speaker 1: and what he's doing on staff. I think if anything,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, if he's recovered right there in going through
Speaker 1: Brent Brown in the in the bands, he should be
Speaker 1: ready to go. But if you're the Cowboys and you
Speaker 1: have all the organization is looking at the depth of them,
Speaker 1: and then like you said, kick the can down the road,
Speaker 1: but also, hey man, this may be a situation where
Speaker 1: you mean be able to get your seat back, and
Speaker 1: some of the unwritten rules of football is you can't
Speaker 1: lose your spot if you're hurt. But yeah, we know
Speaker 1: how they go. It's a business and they're gonna make
Speaker 1: the business decision when it comes down the hill. He's
Speaker 1: like the forgotten man sation. I think he would add
Speaker 1: something though, no doubt, because he fits what QUI. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why they signed Carlos Watkinson. They want to get
Speaker 1: up the field, probably in the nickel defense and add
Speaker 1: to this rotation that he wants. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it definitely would help. But I just you know, snaps
Speaker 1: snaps snaps are scarce well, and that's exactly why I
Speaker 1: put him in that category because he could come in
Speaker 1: and play. He could definitely come in. We saw a
Speaker 1: week one through five last year. He's still got something.
Speaker 1: He's got NFL level talent. He's got a potential starter
Speaker 1: level talent as well. He's just in this what fourth
Speaker 1: year now or third year now? They're going into his
Speaker 1: fourth year, so next year would be the contract year.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's just it's something that's a
Speaker 1: bit disappointing that you haven't seen seventy two out there.
Speaker 1: You haven't seen him be able to contribute, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why he I would put him in that category.
Speaker 1: But that was fun. Yeah, and I think your initial
Speaker 1: answer for winner is probably the right answer. Like das Well,
Speaker 1: Dack's the winner. Dak coming off that injury, what he's done,
Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers aren't the same as every quarterback,
Speaker 1: but I think he has to be at the very
Speaker 1: top of the MVP race right now. Yeah, based on
Speaker 1: what this team's doing where he came from. Some of
Speaker 1: his numbers. I mean, his completion percentage is ridiculous right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the completion percentage? Is that? And I'm everybody knows, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand up for Dak on anything. But you
Speaker 1: have to look at the rest of the league when
Speaker 1: the MVP MVP races is announced. There's some guys out
Speaker 1: there that's putting in numbers and TV twelve is one
Speaker 1: of them. You have to also look at Kylin Murray
Speaker 1: and what he's doing. So I think with the completion
Speaker 1: percentage alone, that gives you the and what he's had
Speaker 1: to overcome from last season, but there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of good quarterbacks falling out this year. Nui Scruggs came
Speaker 1: in after Mick shots and was asking us, and they
Speaker 1: talked about on their show, who makes the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: out of the NFC after seven games? Right? Oh god,
Speaker 1: how many three quarterbacks make it? Yeah, there's it too.
Speaker 1: I forget three. I mean, all these top teams right
Speaker 1: now have really really good quarterback play. Dak's making the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl if this keeps up, though, I don't care
Speaker 1: anybody says, but it's an interesting conversation. It is an
Speaker 1: interesting conversation. Man, the Pro Bowl. That's it's great a run, yeah, Kyler, Kyler,
Speaker 1: it's four. If you really think of Matthew Stafflin's in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and three goes I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good point. Yeah, great point, Tom Brady, jesus, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who does get in the top three? But just even
Speaker 1: in the VP MVP race, Matthew Stafford right now is
Speaker 1: playing incredible. Yeah. Derek Carr and a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't want to get cars his flowers, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: with everything that's happened with his coaching staff, he's he's
Speaker 1: starting a corner they're two and oh. Now without Gruden
Speaker 1: at that coach, watch out now you have raids later on.
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Speaker 1: What's up man? What's going on? Guys? I just want
Speaker 1: to say, obviously, obviously listen to the show when I
Speaker 1: obviously it was a bye week and then next week
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. If you guys think that we don't
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Speaker 1: Cherry will sometimes do it, but it's like you know
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Speaker 1: What do you guys think about that, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's half of my Twitter mentions right now is
Speaker 1: talking about trade potentials. I think, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's too far off the bean path. I
Speaker 1: think I listen, listen. I would not want to miss
Speaker 1: with the continuity of this team. However, if you were
Speaker 1: ever in a position to make a trade and receive
Speaker 1: value for it, this is the time to do it, yep.
Speaker 1: Because we have so much value on this team. We
Speaker 1: have so many guys playing well. Where if you were
Speaker 1: going to add an additional piece that was gonna give
Speaker 1: you that extra little that you need to put your
Speaker 1: team over the edge, this would be the time to
Speaker 1: do it because you have the most value right now
Speaker 1: in your team. So I'm number one. I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess with it with the contws. But if you're
Speaker 1: going to make a big old splash and say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and get another shut down corner, WHOA,
Speaker 1: You could do that right now right with the guys
Speaker 1: that you have. You have that you have the trade
Speaker 1: about the death, You have the equity to go out
Speaker 1: there and make that move right now versus other years
Speaker 1: where you're messing not that great guys don't value your
Speaker 1: players that much. Think about a couple of guys on
Speaker 1: the roster that aren't getting normal playing time that could
Speaker 1: help another team. Yeah. Well, I mean when you talk
Speaker 1: about equity, obviously they're going to be some quality guys
Speaker 1: that you would We're not gonna get into a name.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there would be a quality guy that
Speaker 1: you would be giving up to go get that quote
Speaker 1: unquote shutdown guy. And I agree with you. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mess with it because of where we are
Speaker 1: right now. And look, let's just hey, man, we bold
Speaker 1: do it, do it how we want to do it.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been talking about Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: and if there's any trade value for Michael Gallup because
Speaker 1: he's in the contract year, and I think that's crazy,
Speaker 1: man they even start that talk, because you want to
Speaker 1: have your guys that you draft and you built, you
Speaker 1: built him up to be this this offense. Even to
Speaker 1: even say that he's a third receiver is not a
Speaker 1: curse word on this roster because all three of these
Speaker 1: guys could have a thousand yards season. Are there potentially
Speaker 1: a thousand yards season? So I just think he fits
Speaker 1: the system. So perfectly. And I think if you have
Speaker 1: Mike Gallup and the Patriots game, maybe you don't have
Speaker 1: to win in a walk off. You're right, But I mean,
Speaker 1: but when you take emotions out of it, right, when
Speaker 1: you take emotions out of it, you're gonna lose Gallup
Speaker 1: this year. Gallup's not coming back. I think we can.
Speaker 1: I am not the only one that feels that way.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have the bag to be able to
Speaker 1: secure him along with all the other responsibility we finally
Speaker 1: agree with there? It depends on the system. So what
Speaker 1: would what would be the contract for I don't know
Speaker 1: what the as far as the rest of the league,
Speaker 1: what would he would be would be the asking price?
Speaker 1: It depends on what he comes back. Gallup can get
Speaker 1: more somewhere else than he can get here with Dallas
Speaker 1: that we can pay him, probably probably. So it's about
Speaker 1: I understand loving your team and loving organism and people
Speaker 1: that gave it. But at the end of the day
Speaker 1: year in the league to win games and make money,
Speaker 1: you look at what the Cowboys have to do. Also,
Speaker 1: Gregory's up, everybody's vander Rashes up, somebody else is up.
Speaker 1: That's pretty But also the salary cap is going up,
Speaker 1: the salary cap is going up as well, and whatever
Speaker 1: it is that he's asking for, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's asking for top tier or wide receiver money. And
Speaker 1: if he leaves here and goes somewhere else, is he
Speaker 1: do you feel like Mike g could be a number
Speaker 1: one receiver? But that's not first to figure out. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about just what the money that he's probably probably
Speaker 1: going to have on the table. If you believe, if
Speaker 1: the front office believes that, if they're going to lose
Speaker 1: Gallop anyways, nobody will here in this room right now
Speaker 1: once you get rid of Gallup. Let's let's get that
Speaker 1: across the table. But if you're in the front office
Speaker 1: and you feel like there's a high probability that he
Speaker 1: will not be on your roster next year, that's a
Speaker 1: guy that comes up in conversation in terms of trade.
Speaker 1: That's up to them to decide. Because I look from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in right now, I'm not willing to
Speaker 1: say it is chocked up done. Michael Gallup is not
Speaker 1: a cowboy in twenty twenty two. Same. I am not
Speaker 1: there yet because there are so many different parts different
Speaker 1: they can make it happen. But I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: one hundred percent there. If the front office, just based
Speaker 1: off of their conversations, has that inkling where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way he's coming back. Fine, yep, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. But I don't think that's even anywhere close.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to win the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper has been kind of limping around last few weeks. Man,
Speaker 1: the long way to get like we talked about, I mean,
Speaker 1: games are left and I'm just about Gallop. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got because a lineman and we can get rid of.
Speaker 1: We got some guys that we can do. We have
Speaker 1: the equity. He's multiple players. Maybe it's two players for
Speaker 1: one really good player. You're trying to make that one
Speaker 1: bold move like a Mari three years ago, that kind
Speaker 1: of puts you over the year. I think. I think
Speaker 1: a bold move is having the number one offense scoring
Speaker 1: and number one offense yardagewise, and then adding a Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup to that offense had he's not been available in
Speaker 1: the last five games. So that's a bold move for
Speaker 1: me specifically. But we're going over. We've got one more caller.
Speaker 1: This is Dan from Abilene Dan, what's up man, you're
Speaker 1: on talking cowboys? Well, continuing that, why wouldn't they trade
Speaker 1: for a defensive lineman because that's going to make your
Speaker 1: current cornerbacks look so much better than that. To me,
Speaker 1: it's a bigger need to press the quarterbacks. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody's seeing the stat about what's his name that guy
Speaker 1: in Green Bay was, oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's fairly average, even below average. We
Speaker 1: need more pressure that I'll make our cornerbacks look better.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about that for a trade?
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to what Jerry said. He
Speaker 1: was asked this on the fan about he said, we're
Speaker 1: open for business year round. Oh however, he said, did
Speaker 1: you get that? Chris, on the other hand, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. We got a unique situation because we've got
Speaker 1: players coming back that we're going to have to open
Speaker 1: roster spots for bigger problem than trading for somebody right now. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting two starters back off ir eventually.
Speaker 1: But to that point, if you have too many players
Speaker 1: that can't such field, doesn't it make sense to trade
Speaker 1: a couple of them to get one dog? Or he
Speaker 1: was saying trade for a defensive linem I'm getting, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: think back, I'm getting yeah, yeah, that's say I don't also,
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, mister Abilen, I don't foresee
Speaker 1: us getting getting another D lineman. Well, I think our
Speaker 1: D line is a dog on solid And you remember
Speaker 1: we're doing all these things without both of our defensive
Speaker 1: ends in the game at the same time. So we
Speaker 1: get d law back. Right, we have great ground office
Speaker 1: a side. It's a totally different defensive line. Right, we
Speaker 1: have two of the league's most dominant, probably most dangerous
Speaker 1: defensive ends, and on one roster. I don't foresee us
Speaker 1: doing that. I do foresee us looking at a dominant
Speaker 1: shutdown corner if we add that element to this roster
Speaker 1: by getting rid of a couple of guys that probably
Speaker 1: are going to be in rotational players, right, that can
Speaker 1: add value to another team, And we already have too
Speaker 1: many players that aren't going to be all be able
Speaker 1: to touch the field. It makes sense. Let's get rid
Speaker 1: of a couple. Let's grab one solid one now, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, who are you gonna throw too? No,
Speaker 1: I understand where Dan is coming from, and I had
Speaker 1: those same doubts coming into the season because I didn't
Speaker 1: know who also, Diggi Zula Will. None of these guys
Speaker 1: are even Carlos Watkins from Houston. They're coming here, man,
Speaker 1: and these guys are as far as Solsa, Diggy Zoo.
Speaker 1: I think Whoa. The value that we're getting from that
Speaker 1: draft pick is speaking volumes from the numbers that he's
Speaker 1: putting up now getting Chauncey Golston back, and Bohannah is
Speaker 1: still doing the service he's doing well or Brent Urban.
Speaker 1: I just think right now, the rotation that we have
Speaker 1: defensive line wise, we're creating that pressure. We're getting everything
Speaker 1: that we would ask from our front line. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if we would trade away an asset to
Speaker 1: get another defensive lineman. I agree with you. I think
Speaker 1: our another corner would be good and maybe not Dog
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown's doing a hell of a job. You saw that.
Speaker 1: I tried to do it with it. Come on, Pete,
Speaker 1: let me get away with it like that every time
Speaker 1: you see that. But I mean the reality is we
Speaker 1: have ten million dollars invest into into two cornerbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have ten million dollars invested into two cornerbacks, not
Speaker 1: a lot, Bob, not a lot. Yeah, just waiting a
Speaker 1: couple of years though, it's gonna go crazy. Don't tell
Speaker 1: me that. Come on, Yeah, he's gonna get paid paid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um I I kind of lean toward Dan's thinking, I
Speaker 1: either one for the right price, let's do it, because
Speaker 1: a shutdown corner would be fantastic. But also we've seen
Speaker 1: some holes in this run defense as well, not even
Speaker 1: just with the pass rush. The pass rush is gonna
Speaker 1: be there. Remember DeMarcus Lawrence is coming back. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be back for that, for that last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: last month of the season, going into the playoffs, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be rolling. I wouldn't be against whip the young
Speaker 1: pieces that you have, Chauncey Golston. Oh. So I think
Speaker 1: Zua Neville Gallimore to bring in a veteran defensive end,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, somebody like that, maybe not d end more
Speaker 1: d tackle to maybe be a part of that defensive
Speaker 1: line and continue their growth with somebody that's done it
Speaker 1: before it still does it at a high level. So
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on there that you
Speaker 1: could really play around with. You're thinking, like the Rams
Speaker 1: do Rams don't have any draft picks left because they're like,
Speaker 1: we're good, We're gonna compete, content trade for everyone, and
Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's just go for it. You know, I
Speaker 1: get it. I'm listening. We got guys, we got extra guys.
Speaker 1: I like it. All right. That's it for us here
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