1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Drackings Network. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annik and 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: I love him. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 4: I can't get. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Enough of him. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 5: Let's hear that both the next Big Job, the Cooktufia pret. 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Rock Sucker. I don't believe there are a couple of 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: absolutely self involved. Here are your hosts, John Nick and 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: Kenny Florian. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: That's all, Oh yeah, yeah, we're bucking now, baby, what bo. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: It's great to be back with you. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Well, hey, if this song passes the muster of Raging 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: aly Quint, even though it's called Boston Garden Wrapped and 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: we're okay with it, you're going to be back in 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: your collective lives. Monday, August seven, twenty twenty three, Episode 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: four twenty seven of the Anak and Florian podcast Raging 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: al Iaquint of filling it off the top of the 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: show for Kenny Floory and Ray Long goes on hand 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: and I got to say it was an absolute lock 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: that Raging al was going to show up right on 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: the Screws New Eastern Time eleven fifty eight. This guy's 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: in the back of the room, of course, Ray, we 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: can count on you now. Four hundred and twenty episodes 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: into Beyond Time. But the Realtor of the Year, right, 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: you know, he's going to be there right at noon. 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: It's good to see you boys. 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: I'll tell you after this weekend. I'm a little shocked 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: he was on time, but I'm very happy to see you. 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: So this is this is big, this is bigger than you. 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: Thank y'ohn. 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: It's going to take a little more than a weekend 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 5: and naturally keep meaning from. 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: We better not have out too long because I actually 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: think his voice might rival yours Raymond in terms of 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: how listenable it is. 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: But it's great to have. 38 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Of course, the long time UFC veteran and proud Team 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Sarah Longo member Ali Quinta with us on the Anaicmplorian podcast. 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody who was there at Nashville, Tennessee and 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: certainly came up to these two gentlemen and myself. It's 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: always a highlight to see you guys on the road. 43 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: And Al, I guess I'll start with you. You know, 44 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: this week was particularly unique because of this Dennis Buzuka circumstance, 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: and he's a friend of the Anak and Florian podcast. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: He's been on the show several times. You know, I 47 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: think he and our producer Cody Merrow might have actually 48 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: french kiss at this point in time. You know, he's 49 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: part of our family, right And this was such a 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: long time coming that I think we all sort of 51 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: felt the emotions of this week and then it all 52 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: happened so quickly. 53 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: So what was your week like? And you weren't initially 54 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: scheduled to be in Tennessee with Pomi? 55 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: Were you? 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: No? 57 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 6: No, this was last last kind of minute you want 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 6: to you want to take a trip to Nashville and 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 6: watch me beat someone up? 60 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 5: And I said, of course, let's go. Let's do it. 61 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 6: Crazy circumstances, I mean, four days notice, guy flies out, 62 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: the next day, brings the whole crew. 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: You know, we had a solid team. Everybody's behind Dennis. 64 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 6: We know how hard he's worked to get here, long 65 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 6: time coming, four days notice, cuts a tremendous amount of weight, 66 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 6: goes in there against a guy on a full training 67 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 6: camp that really looked the best I've ever seen him. 68 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 6: Look Woodson did I He definitely surprised me with a 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 6: lot of stuff that he did in there. And you know, 70 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: credit to Dennis for really pushing through a hard, three 71 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 6: round fight against a tough, awkward opponent stylistically, you know, 72 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 6: coming in just you got those UFC jitters that everyone 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 6: talks about right off the bat four days notice, goes 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 6: in there and fights fights super hard. 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 5: So definitely proud of that guy. 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anybody who's been a supporter of his 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: was very proud with the effort. And I think anyone 78 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: who's been a supporter Ray knew that he was going 79 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: to go hard, even if he had a weightcut that 80 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: had him staring death in the face. And a lot 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: of people were shook by this weightcut. I think Matt 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Frivolda may be chief among them. He said it's the 83 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: worst weight cut he's ever seen. But obviously Dennis, you know, 84 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: got as close as he could. And I kind of 85 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: feel like in any other state with a commissioner who 86 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: understood maybe what was going on, what might have given 87 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: him the three ounces. But that's neither here nor their Ray. 88 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: How how did you handle that Friday? That seemed to 89 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: be a traumatic life experience for matth the seam rolla 90 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: for Vola. 91 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean, but I'll tell you what, man, Listen. 92 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: I was with Widman when he dropped thirty pounds in 93 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: ten days, so I'm no stranger at you know, seeing 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: a guy laying on the floor, and you know that 95 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: day I was basically crying for Widman and I honestly 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: at that time I was saying take the find, they'll understand, 97 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: which maybe in hindsight now was even wrong, But back 98 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: then it was just rule of watch. I mean, he 99 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: had three pounds to go, jumped in the sawna for 100 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, didn't drop an outs. I mean, it was 101 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: it was bad, So I understand what those guys went through. 102 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: I wasn't there to witness it, but you know, just 103 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: just the coincidence of the whole thing pulling in a 104 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: coupa fighting the night before and we weren't going down 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: because that was a little suspect if you know who's 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: going to be there. I think mcmaine is supposed to 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: be there. You know, this was going to be a 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: good shot for pulling. Then within you know, a week, 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: Dennis gets the call and we just everybody just up 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: and leaves because you know, we've been talking about this, 111 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: and Dennis has been talking about this for about twenty 112 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 3: five years now, so I mean, it's just the timing, 113 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: you know, probably couldn't have been worse, but this is 114 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: what he wanted. That's his dream to get in the UFC. 115 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: And you know, like Aal said, man, we just everybody 116 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: stuck together and we just went down there to support 117 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: him because he's a you know, he's a staple in 118 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: the gym and he helps these guys up when they 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: were fighting. And it was just a good thing. And 120 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: before I get go with any any further, two hats 121 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: off to Sean Woodson and his team. Seemed like a 122 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: bunch of great guys. I mean, so I wish the 123 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: guy the best. I mean, they were just absolute gentlemen, 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: and I think they appreciated that Dennis stepped up to 125 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: the plate and that's all you can ask for in 126 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: those situations and those guys, those guys were absolutely fantastic. 127 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: And just wish the whole team the best going forward. 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: Look a bunch of young guys, and I wish him 129 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: the best going forward. 130 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: And I'm going to give you plenty of time to 131 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: unpack all of this. And if you are wondering, Kenny 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Florian is driving from New England to Charlotte, North Carolina 133 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: right now, so we'll recap this UFC Fight Night with 134 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: him later in the week and get predictions on Pacente 135 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Luca and Halfayo Dosanjos and Brian Petrie and Jason Annik 136 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: by the way coming up in about a half an hour. 137 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: They were both in the building in Nashville, Tennessee. But 138 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: Dennis Buzuki was in shape right, and I felt the 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: need to come to his defense, not because I like 140 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: you guys or raise on our show every week, but 141 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: because this athlete had an idea that maybe some short 142 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: notice fight might materialize. But that doesn't mean that he 143 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: doesn't have muscle mass, right, So, al, how much do 144 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: you think the circumstances affect Dennis if at all? Affected 145 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: Dennis if at all on Saturday Night. I mean, his 146 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: heart obviously was there. He had big moments in the fight. 147 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: I think to your point, he just fought a Sean 148 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: Woodson that obviously has been putting in the developmental time 149 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: and mixed it up and just was able to outlast 150 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: smoke for fifteen minutes. 151 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 152 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: I mean to say that that the whole situation didn't 153 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 6: affect him definitely would be wrong. 154 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he he I could guarantee you he was feeling. 155 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 6: Really that adrenaline dump in the beginning, which you're probably 156 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: going to have in your UFC debut no matter what. Yes, Yeah, 157 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 6: And then you know he was putting together some nice combos, 158 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 6: definitely reacting to some stuff right off the bat Woodson 159 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: hit him with a couple of low kicks. 160 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: That changed. 161 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 6: That changes things right away. A couple of well placed 162 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 6: kicks will affect your movement effect, maybe even letting things 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 6: go because you're just you're, you're you're kind of fearing 164 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 6: another one of those kicks coming landed in the right spot. 165 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 5: You know. 166 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 6: Is he battled through a lot of adversity this week, 167 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 6: so I think that going forward has to be in 168 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 6: his back pocket and uh, you know, he gets his 169 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: next opponent, gets a training camp, he's in the UFC now, 170 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 6: and now he knows what to expect whatever the next 171 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 6: fight is, he'll he'll have this experience in that back 172 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 6: pocket to pull out and say, listen, I got through 173 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 6: four days, got my weight down about as close as 174 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 6: you can get, and uh, you know was on uh 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 6: you know, death right door, just getting now having to rehydrate, 176 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 6: get back in the fight. You know, it was like 177 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: what a crazy, crazy circumstance to go through. But that's 178 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 6: what that's what it takes. And now he got through it, 179 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: and the next one will be uh, you know, it 180 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 6: will pose problems, just you know, in the UFC, that's 181 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 6: what it's. 182 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: Going to be. 183 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: You know, every every opponent is going to pose a problem, 184 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 6: a different uh you know, a different skill set. But 185 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 6: now that is behind him, that he'll he'll make the weight, 186 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 6: he'll have the time to get his weight down to 187 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 6: prepare peak at the right time. I mean, he wasn't 188 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 6: even close to peaking, you know, he was whoduck knows, 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 6: you know, but he was in shape, he was training hard, 190 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 6: he did he was you know, going into the fight. 191 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 6: The day before he got the call, he was being 192 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: put through a hard shark tank grappling session. So it definitely, 193 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 6: you know, he was going in confident but definitely had 194 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 6: a little bit of a disadvantage. 195 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, his second UFC appearance hopefully is in November at 197 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden, and you're right, I mean, it'll have 198 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: a different challenge, but it will not be a six 199 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: foot three inch one hundred and forty five pound boxer 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: who wants to wrestle all night. 201 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: You know so, but so there's so much that we 202 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: could get into. 203 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: We had Ali i quin a book on the show 204 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: before Dennis Bezukia was even set to compete. So I 205 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: just want to spend a couple of minutes sort of 206 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: talking to Al about Algamain Sterling and everything that you 207 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: have going on in your life. And I guess I 208 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: just want to start with this Aljamaine Sterling title defense. 209 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: And certainly you don't need me to tell you anything 210 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: about his character and why you weren't surprised that he 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: would go support Dennis and Poomy as he did two 212 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: weeks before a title defense. But the challenge of this 213 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: title defense is not lost on me. For Al Joe, 214 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: and I don't just speak of the opponent, Sean O'Malley. 215 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: I speak to the fact that he fought Henry Shudo, 216 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, in early June, over twenty five hard minutes. 217 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: So as one of his chief cornermen, Al, how have 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: you digested all the circumstances surrounding this O'Malley fight. What 219 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: are your thoughts now twelve days out? 220 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 221 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 6: I mean, Aljo's looking great, He's looking great, and I 222 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 6: think that was a big reason, you know, he probably 223 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 6: would have went either way. But I think that the 224 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 6: fact he's really feeling good, he's he's been he's put 225 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 6: in the work. Right after that last fight, they kind 226 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 6: of threw him right into this one. He was unsure where, 227 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 6: you know, how he would feel at this point. And 228 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: I think we're all just like al Joel, you a 229 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 6: couple of weeks from now, you're going to be like, Wow, 230 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: I'm ready to go, you know. And that's exactly what happened. 231 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 6: He took those two weeks off, he came back, and 232 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 6: now it's he's in shape. He's looking like an absolute monster. 233 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 6: Best he's looked in the gym, So going into this 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 6: one super confident. I think stylistically it's a great fight 235 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 6: for him. I know for a fact that O'Malley's never 236 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 6: fought anyone near h as good as Aljo, as tricky 237 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 6: as al Joe, as uh cerebral in the cage as 238 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 6: al Jo and uh as as unorthodox. He's like, he's 239 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 6: never seen the striking, he's never seen the movement that 240 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 6: Aljoe in every every facet of the game, He's never 241 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 6: you know, and then you get to his bread and butter, 242 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 6: the grappling God forbid, this guy. 243 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: Gets a hold of him. It's not going to look 244 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 5: good for U. 245 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, y, where are you guys? By the time Cory 246 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: Sandhagan fights Rob font after you guys corner, Dennis. 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: Well, where are we? 248 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're back at the hotel. 249 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're Well, they threw us right out. 250 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: So al Jo had tickets, we got we got thrown out, 251 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: so we watched the fight at the ball. 252 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: But John, he had one thing. These these guys, these 253 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: guys have. 254 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: Traveled around the world together. They really are like brothers. 255 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: Dennis has been a big help with everybody al Jo. 256 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: Aljo really is a giver man. He loves you know, 257 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: he loves his teammates, and I think psychologically making that 258 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: trip and being there for a guy he he loves, 259 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: and that he knew that this was a huge opportunity. 260 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: I just think shows you who really Aljo is. Even 261 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: though he's you know, fighting in two weeks, he selflessly, 262 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, went to a Nashville supporters buddy, and like again, 263 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: I think psychologically it's a big plus for Aljo. It 264 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: might not seem it to the outside world, but I 265 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: always said, look, if I had to lead the team 266 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: to anybody, Aljo's really the guy that you know, loves 267 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: loves this stuff and he gives back to all of 268 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: the people around him. So, uh, I was it. 269 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: It was just good. 270 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: It was just a good, good energy having everybody there, 271 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: and it just the way it happened, like just one day, boom, everybody. 272 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: He's on a plane the next day and we're all 273 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: together and we're support and pull me and uh and 274 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: Dennis now and you know, Pats off to pull me 275 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: till let's not forget him. He got a third round finish. Yeah, 276 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: I thought he looked fantastic, and you know, Dennis went 277 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: in and just I think he proved, you know, he's 278 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: got the heart, he's got the determination. He was up 279 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: against the odds again Woodson, like al said, for a 280 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: great fight and he's a great fighter. So that wasn't unexpected. 281 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: And that was it, you know. But where we were, 282 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: we got we got driven back right after Bizukas fights, 283 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: so we ended up at the ball watching the fine 284 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: sand Degan fight. 285 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: No, Sean Woodson is six or seven fights into his 286 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: UFC career, he's lost one time, and I thought he 287 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: mixed things up well. And I thought Dennis at his 288 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: moments I thought you guys coached him well, and yeah, 289 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: I can understand the psychological value of you guys now 290 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: having done this trip, and now that you guys are 291 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 2: all back without travel issues, we can sort of have 292 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: this conversation. I feel like, is there a lot of 293 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: sign is the only champion I can think of, with 294 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: respect to the other belholders, that really would have done 295 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: this this close to the fight, right, like if Dennis 296 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: was fighting on this luke A dos Ajo's fight card 297 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: this weekend, with respect, There's no fucking way Aljo's going 298 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: to Vegas when it's that close, right, There were enough 299 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: days where you actually could do this, And I give 300 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: you guys all the respect in the world. I want 301 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: to talk to Ali quint about a few things if 302 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: I could so, in terms of your own career, and 303 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: I have so much respect for it as I pull 304 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: out my raging ally quint a fight card today. Not 305 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: just your performance against Kabib Normago Matov on short notice 306 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: that historically will always be lauded, but when I look 307 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: at your wins list, Kevin Lee twice, Ross Pearson, Joe Losan, 308 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: Jorge mosfiital Diego Sanchez, you know a lot of big wins. 309 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: But I want to take you back to if I 310 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: could the Ultimate Fighter Live finale June first, twenty twelve, 311 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: when you fought Michael Kiessa. So James Vick, God love him. 312 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: And every time Al comes on, I bring this his way. 313 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: So if your memory's good, I apologize. But Vick is 314 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: like going to the window. He's like, dude, He's like, 315 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Al can't walk. You guys had been there for thirteen weeks. 316 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: You were injured going into that Michael Kissa fight. If 317 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: that was if it was twenty twenty three out eleven 318 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: years later, no way. Seemingly you're medically approved to fight, 319 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: to actually go in there. But what do you remember 320 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: sort of about that night and obviously James Vick having 321 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: the intel to go load up on Kisa because not 322 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: because he didn't think you were better than Mike, just 323 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: because you were on one let. 324 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, nowadays I don't think he's able to do that, right, 325 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: He's not on to bet on the fights anymore. HERECT, 326 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 6: it's a serious inside information there. Yeah, I was walking 327 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 6: through the hotel and it was even just like go 328 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 6: getting to the training room was pretty difficult. Yeah, I 329 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 6: hurt myself pretty bad in that semi finals fight, and 330 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 6: then we had to do the the medicals before yeah, 331 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 6: and the doctor was like, you know, doing touch and nose, 332 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 6: do that, and then he told me the squad. 333 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 5: Ray was like he told me. 334 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: No, no. 335 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: I started Joe, and I started talking to the doctor. 336 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: It looks good. 337 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: Al I started acting like I'm the doctor just to 338 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: get them through because I know we can't squat. I 339 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: mean we had brought we flew to doctor down. Remember 340 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: doctor Sherry rest in peace or a beautiful person, but 341 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: ultrasound stem whatever she could do, we will working that 342 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: knee over and over again. But when that guy said squad, 343 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: I go, we're going to get We might be fucked 344 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: right now. So I think I started talking to the doctor. 345 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm diverting his attention. How maybe does a quarter of 346 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: a squ guy goes okay, next and I go, holy 347 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: cro we made it through. 348 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: So your career and I mentioned some of the big 349 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: names and some of the big wins, and there were 350 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: a lot of special moments, right, but knee injuries were 351 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: part of the narrative in your career. And now here 352 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: you are, this outstanding realtor. You know you can still 353 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: scratch the competitive bitch a little bit as you train 354 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: and help these fellow athletes and coach, and your body 355 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: seemingly is still able to do all of that. So 356 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: are you able to lean into the positives now that 357 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: you are clear of mind and clear of body and 358 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: have this great secondary career that maybe you wouldn't have, 359 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: Like you you could have gone on to be like 360 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: the number one contender or the champion and still not 361 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: have set for life money, right, So like, are you 362 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: able to lean into the positive now that seemingly you 363 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: are in this great life place? 364 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 365 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 6: Absolutely everything kind of like that first injury back back 366 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 6: then really put it all in perspective. A couple of 367 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 6: doctor Davidson with the UFC. He said, if you get 368 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 6: this surgery that I wanted to have, you'll probably never 369 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 6: fight again. And uh, and I was like, wow, like 370 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 6: this guy's if this guy's saying that right, who knows? 371 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: You know? 372 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 6: And I had to have the surgery because I was 373 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 6: in so much pain that uh that you know, it 374 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: wasn't I wasn't going to fight without the surgery, so 375 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 6: I might as well get the surgery and hope that 376 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 6: it took. 377 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 4: And it did. 378 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: I always kind of struggled after that with the with 379 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 6: the knee, kind of working around it and everything. But 380 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 6: it definitely set me up to look elsewhere. Get the 381 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 6: real estate license. Now, uh, eight years later, open up 382 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 6: my own brokerage and I got agents working with me. 383 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 6: Uh you know, so I definitely have have thrived in 384 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 6: the real estate avenue and uh and yeah, it kind 385 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 6: of freezing me up now that I got my I'm 386 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 6: open my own office. Can can uh spend some time 387 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 6: with the with the fighters that helped me coming up 388 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 6: and and be able to travel and go to their 389 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 6: fights and stuff like that. So yeah, so it's all 390 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 6: it's all worked out, hard, hard work, pushing through it 391 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 6: all fighting if you could do if you're fighting the UFC, 392 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 6: I think you could do anything and uh, and it's 393 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 6: really just setting setting yourself up for after because it 394 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 6: ends quick and uh and then you're sitting there going. 395 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 5: What the heck am I going to do next? So 396 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 5: I was fortunate in that aspect. 397 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, you seem to be very good speaking in front 398 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: of a crowd. I see you on all these podiums 399 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: with all these fancy microphones. Would you enjoy doing mixed 400 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 2: martial arts commentary or not? Necessarily? 401 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've done a little bit with the LFA. I 402 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 6: do the ring of combat, I do. I do the 403 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 6: ring of combat, So I mean, I'm more I enjoy it. 404 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: I enjoy doing it. But yeah, that's definitely something that 405 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 6: I enjoyed doing. And every opportunity that I get I 406 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 6: jump on for sure. 407 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 4: All right. 408 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: And last thing, how much connective tissue is there between 409 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: the real estate thing and random people in the fight 410 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: game reaching out to you trying to sell a house, 411 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: and if you can pump wherever people can get in 412 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: touch with you, now would be a good time to 413 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: do that as well. 414 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've had people reach out from all over the 415 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 6: country that have been looking to buy or sell, and 416 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 6: I've got a great network of agents all across all 417 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 6: across the country, so we make it happen. Yeah, if 418 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 6: anybody wants to reach out, Twitter, Instagram usually the best 419 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 6: way to get a hold of me. And yeah, yeah, 420 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 6: it's enjoyable to have somebody that's a fan of fighting 421 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 6: reach out from I bet Wardia, Nebraska, California, and then 422 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 6: to be talk to them about their you know, their 423 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 6: real estate needs also talking we're always talking fighting, you know, 424 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 6: So it's a cool bet An icebreaker and then and 425 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 6: then to be able to help them out and impress 426 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 6: them and then they go tell their friends it's it's 427 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 6: a cool thing. 428 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 5: It's really it's awesome. 429 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and John, let me let me at what thing 430 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: John too is that you know, no one else since 431 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: he's probably about nineteen or twenty. Man, it's just a 432 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: really really great thing to see him succeed after fighting 433 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: and how he matured. He was a fucking crazy kid 434 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: who you know. Now I'm hanging out with him acting 435 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: just as stupid as he is at fucking sixty five. 436 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: So I think he's keeping me young. But just to 437 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 4: watch him grow up, even when I I I called 438 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 4: my wife and I told. 439 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: The Bizuka lost, and she know she loves Bizuka's mother 440 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: and and you know she's and How's the smart ones? 441 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: He's the guy, He's the smart one. He set himself up, 442 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, because she struggles with you know, the pain 443 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: these guys have to go through, making the wait and 444 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: having to jump in like a fight like that too. 445 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: It's always good to get that outside look from somebody 446 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: who doesn't really understand the fighting. But that's what she 447 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: was saying on the phone, is al How's the smart 448 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: guy he got. He set himself up. Look, she's so 449 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: happy for me, you know because you know she loves 450 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: his mom and dad, his sister, and she didn't get 451 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: to see him. Well, she's always been a fan, but 452 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: she she never knew what a what a mad hattery was. 453 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: You know, we keep that, We got to keep that 454 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: in the box because my wife's a straight shoot, you 455 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 456 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 4: But uh, but it's just great to see the guy succeed. 457 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: He's gonna have a great career. 458 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: Uh. You know the UFC, the fighting. Listen, when you 459 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: got guys trying to punch you in the face and 460 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: break your arm and put you to sleep, that's hard. 461 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: That that's really hard, you know, getting up and talking 462 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: in front of people. Even though they say public speaking 463 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: is you know that that's the number one fear. Everybody, 464 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: get a guy in front of you who wants to 465 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: decapitate you, that that's the number one fear. There is 466 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: no other fear than that. So public speaking, get your 467 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: own business going. Uh, you know that that's really tough. 468 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: And I think the fighting he used as a great 469 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: you know, springboard to get where he wants to go, 470 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: which I that's what I want at all of these guys, 471 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: you know, and I think they're all doing it, and 472 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: they're all gonna do it. You know, Sarah's so super 473 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: successful with his schools, else super successful with his real estate, 474 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: and you know, all of these guys, after they're done fighting, 475 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: are going to be successful because that's the hard part. 476 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: What they already did. 477 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: So you build good, you know, you build those attributes 478 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: in the trenches and then you paul lay them over 479 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: into something else I think is absolutely awesome. 480 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: And you keep raging out on the back burner until 481 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: you fucking need him and then you just unload on anybody. 482 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: I still think he's gonna fight, John. I still think 483 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 4: he's fighting. 484 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: I'm sensing something good for you. I'm sending something good, 485 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 5: like I'm going to get a big fight. I go, 486 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: what do you what do you mean? What it's next? 487 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: What is it? You know? 488 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: But I mean the times of holding pads and he 489 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: would we would be looking good and his knee would 490 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: he just take the gloves off and throw him on 491 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: the floor. It was just super frustrating, you know. So 492 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: my heart always went out to him, but I always 493 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: just wanted to support him, and you know, see him 494 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: do the best he could do with what he had, 495 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: and I think he did a great job. People will 496 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: never understand that, you know, and even with the kis 497 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: if I looks one of my favorite people in the world. 498 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: He's a great guy. That was no disrespect to him. 499 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: You brought the story up with James fake and it 500 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: brought back memories to what we had to do. And 501 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: that time with the doctor was absolutely crazy. I literally, 502 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to say. He was a little older 503 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: of a guy, right, I think, And I just hearded 504 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: his attention when I went to do that squad John, 505 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: I don't even know if his knees bent. 506 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: I go, wow, it looks great. 507 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: It was. 508 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: It was bad. It was actually really bad. 509 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: But he did a great job and so good to 510 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: see Kios go on and still, you know, be in 511 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: the UFC and still get to say a load to 512 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: him and stuff. 513 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: So it's just I'm not taking a shot at Kishot. 514 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: I want to make sure, because I like him and 515 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: respect him that much that if the story's funny, and 516 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: trust me to need stories go way beyond that after 517 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: that that you never even hear about. 518 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: So just that, Ally, Quina very much appreciate your time 519 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: this morning, sir, and I guess we'll see in Boston, Massachusetts. 520 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: You may want to tell al Jamine Serling, unless he 521 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: loves these booze that seem to follow him everywhere, to 522 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: just check the Yankees hat, because as someone who's spent 523 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: thirty years in Massachusetts, you know how much love I 524 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: got for Al Joe. But I don't need to see 525 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: the Yankees hat next week. 526 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: And John Joe always say one another thing too. I 527 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: want to start a segment pulled the people that make 528 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: the people. I think we just build this platform. We've 529 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: been doing it. You've been doing it, you know, person 530 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: by person, like building the like brick by rick, but 531 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: we got stopped so many times. So I want to 532 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 3: give a shout out to some of the people. Claudio 533 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: from Argentina just super. He saw us all standing there. 534 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 3: He's looking he doesn't know what to make of it, 535 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: like he's first he's looking at me, then he sees Al, 536 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: then he puts it together. 537 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: He's a big fan of the show. 538 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: These are people that always start off with I love 539 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: I Love deannak and Florian podcast, and I think we 540 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: got to pay respect for him and another guy, well, 541 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: we were getting on the plane meeting. Now this guy 542 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: Raised that works for Delta rail Lines Rays super nice guys, 543 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: you know, like again, big fan of the show, and 544 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: I think I want to start like going person by 545 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: person until we get to a million people. That's what 546 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: I would love to do because I love these I 547 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: mean I love it. 548 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: I love you know. 549 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm one of those guys that may be a little different. 550 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 3: I think Cale's more like me, but you can interrupt 551 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: me while I'm eating. I just think, you know, to 552 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: get to a point where people even give a shit 553 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: about you like that is super special. And if you 554 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: can make somebody's day, That's what I'm all about. And 555 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: I love it. So hats off to Claudio Ray. He's 556 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: again Tom from Twitter, right, I don't want to forget him. 557 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: He hung out, was at the bar, he was at 558 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: the fights. These are just super nice people, and thank 559 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 3: you very much for supporting the show. 560 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 6: And raise really good about the show. He said he 561 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 6: watched religiously, so that was that was cool to say. 562 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 7: Man. 563 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 6: He came up to the school he was couldn't couldn't 564 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 6: speak more highly of the show. 565 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: So I thought, I thought it was great because we 566 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: had out coming on. So he was like, what's your name? 567 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: Will give you a shout out on Monday? 568 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: So amazing, I go out. 569 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: Can you remember the names? I'm trying to write him 570 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 4: down because. 571 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: Right he did good. 572 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 5: I would have never remembered raise. I had to write it. 573 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: I had to write it down because we were all, 574 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: I think, a little banged up getting on the plane. 575 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: So I bet good. 576 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 577 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: Well, Ali Quina continued success. Brother, We'll see you next week, 578 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: my man, And thank you so much for breaking off 579 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: a few minutes today. 580 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 5: Brother always John always, I'll see out there. 581 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: There is aging ali A Quinta with us on the 582 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: ententoring podcast What a Good Dude. First met him at 583 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: The Ultimate Fight House in twenty twelve, as I was 584 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: brought in to host The Ultimate Fighter Live all the 585 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: way back then and then they wrote me out of 586 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: the show after one season. 587 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: But it was fun. 588 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. And uh, it's too 589 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: bad that show isn't still live because that season is 590 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: one that I thought was maybe the best in show 591 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: history and many respects. All right, well, we have a 592 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: lot more to get into, not just Dennis Pazukia. We're 593 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: gonna go four wide and continue with our anakon Florian 594 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: podcast family, but Ryan Petrie and Jason Anaker with us. 595 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: Both were in the building of bridge Own Arena and 596 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: Nashville Tennis this weekend going to. 597 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: See I think. 598 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 4: Avoid me? How'd you avoid me this weekend? 599 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: Listen? 600 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 5: I saw good. 601 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: I was. 602 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 8: I was by you when I was on the side 603 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: where all the fighters walked out. And after Dennis lost 604 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 8: that fight at my wife's like go down there and 605 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 8: get ready, go down there, because I was right there, 606 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 8: like nice fighters lost. I don't want to ask for 607 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 8: a picture after Dennis has lost, you know, I want 608 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 8: you to be with your fighters. 609 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: So I didn't see. And then, you know, fortunately I. 610 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 8: Went with my wife, so she was a true for 611 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 8: all the fight stuff. But after the fights you kind 612 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 8: of had to do a nice dinner and all that stuff. 613 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 8: How to be a good husband for a little but 614 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 8: the man. I wanted to see Ray so bad. I 615 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 8: didn't see at the weigh ins, I. 616 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: Was unfortunately, have you guys met on personally? 617 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 7: Never? 618 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: And I was open to the How about that big hug. 619 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a couple of great huggers, a couple 620 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: of big bodies that would have made Ray feel pretty 621 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: good after that fight. 622 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 9: I think I love it. 623 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: I love it. I was if he saw me walking 624 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: after the fight. 625 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: He was walking, but I was definitely looking my way 626 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: out of the arena, so he might he helped me, 627 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: might have just taken me right off my feet. 628 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: I would I want to pick you a midget. 629 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to get back to something, Ray said, 630 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: the people that make the people so little disappointed? Canfler 631 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: couldn't be with all of us today, Uh to not celebrate, 632 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: but just acknowledge that for the first time in the 633 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: near nine year history of the show, the anticon Floring 634 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: Podcast was nominated by fighters only at the World MMA 635 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: Awards in the category of Best MMA Programming. And I 636 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: can't even get it out of my mouth Ray without 637 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: getting chills, because this has been the Little Version that 638 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: Could for a lot of years, and largely our format 639 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: has stayed the same, dating to our first episode in 640 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: April of twenty fifteen. 641 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: The Ray Long Minute was a part of that very show. 642 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: And you know, we haven't always focused on things that 643 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: get you awards, right and that gets you ratings necessarily, 644 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: we focus on content and I think as such, we 645 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: have a very loyal, dedicated audience, and a lot of 646 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: those people I think happen to be people that matter 647 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: in the MMA industry and that are in the mixed 648 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: martial arts industry, such as this anonymous fighters only panel 649 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: that acknowledged our show with something that to me just 650 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: feels so very good. But you mentioned our listeners and 651 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: our viewers, Ray, and I'm just glad that you acknowledge 652 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: those people because this doesn't happen without their loyal support 653 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: and get more. You can take that nomination every day 654 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: of the week. It means a whole lot to every 655 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: last one of us. 656 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: Well, John, you're hitting on some things I think, uh, 657 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: you know, indicative of ev of my life. Like you know, look, 658 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: I we enjoy doing the podcast. We do it, I 659 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: believe organically. I don't think we have a look for anything. 660 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: You know. 661 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: Now you know there's a little money coming in. It's 662 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: it's absolutely super with all of that stuff. But it's 663 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: almost like me coaching like people. You know, I think 664 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: you're the most underrated coach in the you know, and 665 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: I never thought that. And just like the podcast, I 666 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: always thought the podcast was great. So even like when 667 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: you're saying like we were a little engine that you 668 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: know good to me, we never would that, you know. 669 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: To me, we were always right where we wanted to be. 670 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: I think we were having a great time, and I 671 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: think we try to shoot from the hip as much 672 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: as possible. You're in an awkward position because you're really 673 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: on a different level with the organization than I am. 674 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: But I think we keep things honest, and I think 675 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: that goes to show everybody who you are, because you're 676 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: in a really awkward spot. 677 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 9: And you know, I think, job, well, thank you buddy, Well, 678 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 9: thank you buddy. 679 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: Of course we get a longo blackout as he's paying 680 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: me that compliment, but no, it really does mean a lot. 681 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: And certainly we read all the YouTube comments. Cody reads 682 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: every last one of them, and I know Big Gun 683 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: leans into that as well, and we appreciate that back 684 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: and forth. And certainly when we read comments and someone says, man, 685 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: you know you got the lead voice of the UFC, 686 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: how come you don't have any ratings or why aren't 687 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: your numbers better? 688 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: Right? 689 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: Well, we focused on the content and if those numbers, 690 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: you know, are what they are, then that's that's fine. 691 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm not going to book ub evenr Mango Metov just 692 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: to do a big rating, you know. But we are 693 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: very thankful to our DraftKings family and to all of 694 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: you guys Jason of course and your wife Amanda helping 695 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: us out on the business side with many things to come. 696 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Best handicapper in the history of the show for sure 697 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: being Big Gun Brian Petrie. But to that end, let 698 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: us serve our audience and not fluff ourselves. We're going 699 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: to get Ray back. But I do want to dive 700 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: into this show now. I did get a text from you, 701 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: Big Gun at one point during the proceedings about the crowd, 702 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: and maybe it was a group text, so I don't 703 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: know the exact nature of the crowd. 704 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: Ray. 705 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: Thank you by the way for what you said. I 706 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: really appreciate that. And congratulations on your nomination. We got 707 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: long go back now for Coach of the Year. Get 708 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: out to vote for Ray Longo by the way, he 709 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: needs that hardware and Ken Fulow nominated for Analysts of 710 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: the Year as well. But yeah, we all want collectively, 711 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: folks is is for best MMA program and let's be honest, 712 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: and I will be showing up at the World MMA Awards, 713 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: no matter if it's the night before a pay per 714 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: view to show my respect to the Fighters Only family 715 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: for acknowledging our show. And but that's what we want. 716 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: So I don't care if you vote for Laura Sanko 717 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: for Personality. 718 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: Of the Year. 719 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: We want to win Best MMA Program and. 720 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so, but I just want to talk to these 721 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: guys and you ray a little bit, and big Gun, 722 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: I thought the Nashville crowd was really darn good most 723 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: of the night, early arriving, acknowledging the grappling. But I 724 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: got a test from you that this was not a 725 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: good crowd and obviously they didn't handle moments late in 726 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: the night particular really well. But what was your experience 727 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: like being in the building. 728 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I want to preferences by I am a snob. 729 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 8: I am a huge MMA snop. So if I hear 730 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 8: chatters that I don't agree with or it's ridiculous, I 731 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 8: get a little But you know, they came early, which 732 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 8: is great, and they were loud, but the night goes on, 733 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 8: the booze goes on, you know what I mean. So 734 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 8: then we started getting some really bad booze. I mean 735 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 8: they were booing during the Jakobe Kennedy fight which ended 736 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 8: a knockout, like they were boom before the knockout. 737 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: It's like, can you give these guys a minute here? 738 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 5: What the fuck's going on? 739 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 8: And then just in my section alone, I can't attest 740 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 8: for the entire crowd, because I met several natural fans 741 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 8: of the show and everything, and they were great. But 742 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 8: in my crowd or in my section, there were some 743 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 8: very obnoxious people, guys that didn't show up tool the 744 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 8: Tatiana Suarez fight, and then they're booing. 745 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: It's like, bro, you've been here for two minutes. 746 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: What are you doing? You know what I mean? Like? 747 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: I got hands too, I got hands I turned around the. 748 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 8: Fucking steps, my guy. The guys in front of us 749 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 8: really bothered. My wife was kind of I was getting 750 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 8: a little animated. 751 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 3: You guys know who the. 752 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 8: Guy who sings over the rainbow, the very enormous Hawaiian 753 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 8: gentleman who sings over the rainbow. 754 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: Do you guys know who? 755 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: That's serious. 756 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 8: So there's a guy in front of me who looked 757 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 8: exactly like him, and he's yelling the most ignoxious stuff. 758 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 8: His dad's next to him, laughing at it. This guy's 759 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 8: got no cardial being a berger by myself, I'm looking 760 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 8: at him like, buddy, you're eight hundred pounds and you're 761 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 8: yelling about Cardio. 762 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? 763 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 4: And he just wouldn't shut. 764 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Up all night. 765 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 8: And my wife's like, relax, relax, you can't get in 766 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 8: a fight here. You took a picture of the guy 767 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 8: behind you. 768 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 4: Relax. 769 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 8: So I got a little worked up because you know, 770 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 8: the main event obviously wasn't what we all expected. I 771 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 8: thought Corey did great with what considering what he went through. 772 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 8: And those are the kind of nights you get in him. 773 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: May. 774 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 8: I'm never gonna boo. I'm never gonna boo these fighters. 775 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 8: I'll boo a Steelers fan. I'll brew the Pittsburgh Steelers. 776 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 8: I'll brew some refs because that's a game. This is 777 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 8: where guys are putting their bodies, livelihood on the line. 778 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 8: And he's going in there with a mess up injury 779 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 8: and then got injured in the fight. You're never gonna 780 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 8: hear me boo. So I didn't appreciate the booze. But 781 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 8: other than that, like the people I met Nashville were great. 782 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 8: The city is great. 783 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, just a couple a couple of bad eggs. 784 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Rick, how much I got as much as 785 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 4: your wife. 786 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: Just don't want to get interrupted as we're going through, 787 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: just because I thought I set everything up correctly. 788 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: So no, you've lose my ship on here in a minute. 789 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: But Jay go ahead, Jay go ahead. No, I just 790 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: want to get in, you know. 791 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: When I went over to c BP, and thankfully it 792 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: wasn't the first time I had seen them all weekend, 793 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: but I went to see you and your wife, and 794 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: so so we're saying hello, Heidi Dean's with us. I 795 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 2: always love my time with Tidi Dean shout out, HOI 796 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 2: I see this couple, and I see this couple. Recognize BP. Okay, 797 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: and it might as well have been jay Z and 798 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: not BP. I'm lady, she's talking about the crowd. I'm 799 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: telling this Lady's face lights up because he's down sort of, 800 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: you know, close close to the cage, and and I 801 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: just see her walking just so excited. She has no 802 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: idea how nice he is. She probably can't believe how 803 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: big you are. Like everybody else, right, fans came out 804 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: for BP, did they not? It was saw a lot 805 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: of people asking for pictures, Bro, So a lot of 806 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: love for you amongst the wacky crowd. 807 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 8: I never thought I would be the guy taking pictures. 808 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 8: Like when we'd be getting into the arena. We got 809 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 8: the early waiting in line to go get the tickets, 810 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 8: and we took about six I took about five of 811 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 8: the wigh and took like four or five in the arena. 812 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this. 813 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 8: I look at my wife like, what life is this? 814 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm taking bunch of the people. 815 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the well yeah, well yeah, the anti 816 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: camploring podcast, Changing lives. 817 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: Of course the lead. But Brian, if you have earned, 818 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: earned what has come your way, go ahead and appreciate that. 819 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I have a lot of fight stuff 820 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: that I'd like to get into, gentlemen, and Ray I 821 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 2: will get you out of here in about fifteen minutes 822 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 2: or so. No, I want to just close the book 823 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: on the Dennis Pazukia fight if I could, and then 824 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: we're going to get into Corey saying hey and the 825 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: rest of this stuff, and ken Flo's coming up in 826 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: a few days, so just bear with us. But I 827 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: didn't love what my conversation with Matt for bowl. I 828 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: know you and Alan I talked about it, and I'm 829 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: so glad that Dennis is out the other side. I'm 830 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: glad he didn't shave his head. I think this is 831 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. 832 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: But as far as the fight is concerned, huge leg 833 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: kicks early from Sean Woodson, Ray that you acknowledged in 834 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 2: the corner, and that didn't seem to be the biggest 835 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: factor as the fight went on. But to what degree 836 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: were you guys surprised with the wrestling game of Sean Woodson? 837 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I was even surprised with the calf kickings 838 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: that he got to off early because I really thought 839 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 3: it was going to be the other way around. I 840 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: wanted Bazooka to chop his legs down, you know what 841 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean. 842 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 4: So I thought that was good. 843 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, Woodson's he's been around long enough. He's you know, 844 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: he's a complete fighter, you know what I mean. So 845 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: I think the fact that look Dennis as decent stand up. 846 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 3: He's got really good stand up. Actually, So the fact 847 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 3: that Woodson was trying to get that fight to the floor, 848 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 3: he thinks, speaks volume, like you know, you know, he 849 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: was feeling in there also, so I wanted it. I 850 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 3: didn't like when Bazooka had his back against the cage. 851 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: I thought Woodston. Woodson did a great job. He looked 852 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 3: he optically looked great when he was unloading against the cage. 853 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: And I think, you know again, like, oh, look after 854 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: the fight, I'm not even gonna analyze the fight if 855 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: you were tied and you were just backing up to 856 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 3: get a break, or even when he was going for 857 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: the takedown, he wasn't gonna like win the fight like that. 858 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 4: His shot was in the center of the ring. He's 859 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 4: got good power in his hand, you see. 860 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: Even when at the end of the second round when 861 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: he got out of whatever submission he ended up top 862 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: with the ground of pounds, he was unloaded like he 863 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: he's he's got killer instinct, you know. So I thought 864 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: he did a great job and everything, but yeah, Woodson's 865 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: a complete fighter at this point. And uh yeah, I surprised. 866 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: Nothing surprises me anymore. Yeah, you know what I mean. 867 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: But I thought he would stick a little more to 868 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 4: the boxing than he did. 869 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 3: Maybe that was a surprise, but you know, all in all, 870 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: you know, like when these guys are in there, you 871 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: know you might feel something right like from Mafaljo's fight, 872 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: no O'Malley and even though we know his strength is 873 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 3: the wrestling. If he feels it's really easy, that's where 874 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: he's going to go. He's going to go to the 875 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 3: path the least resistance, which what he should do, you 876 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And you know we'll get into 877 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 3: that with the Sanda can fight too, which I do it. 878 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 879 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: Again, like Jason said, I say, now you can do 880 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: what he had to do, you know what I mean. 881 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 3: I don't like the ship when you're going to save 882 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: a fight, it's not your opponent. Do you think you're 883 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: doing the right thing? And the next thing, you know, 884 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 3: you're a villain for shutting down a really tough guy. 885 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: And so I got a different way of looking at it. 886 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: But you know, sorry for that. 887 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 2: Make audio Jesus Christmas. All of a sudden, your audio 888 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: just went up like a million octaves. No, it sounds 889 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: actually better right now. But you provided the stegue for us. Jason, 890 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: I want to start with you on the main event, 891 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 2: because it was a pretty uneven main card. You started 892 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: with a couple of decisions. I thought it was a 893 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: great main card all things considered. Yeah, the back to 894 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: back to back finishes by Diego Lopez, Dustin Jacobe and 895 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: Tatiana Suarez, But Jay, when you have a main event 896 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 2: like this, circumstantially on a night that has this Jake 897 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: Paul Na Diaz fight, I think it maybe compounds things 898 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: so esthetically not a great main event. Corey Sandhagen certainly 899 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: wrestled the striker to great effect, but you were octing 900 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: on side Jay, So we'll start with you on the 901 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: main event, Corey Sandhagan fifty to forty five times three. 902 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 903 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's like when you see those twenty five minute 904 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: fights and you have a good which frankly is like 905 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: over thirty minutes with the breaks in between rounds, and 906 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: you almost see where it's going to be. You know, 907 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: after seven eight minutes, you sort of see where you're 908 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: going to be twenty minutes from there, and then the 909 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: crowd starts depleting, and you know those boos. I'm with you, 910 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: peachy about the booze, but that just is what it is. 911 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 2: And John, I think you made a great or someone 912 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: made a point about how you're gonna have in high 913 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: level technical martial arts. You're gonna have some fights that 914 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: maybe Cody and I were talking about are maybe a 915 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: little boring, frankly doesn't mean it's not technical. And well 916 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: I mean I was really admiring I'm rooting hard for 917 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: Bob Fonk trying to get up there and like a 918 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: lot of sort of his tactics and looking like Frankly 919 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: his cardio is there actually to try and get up there. 920 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: But to me, it just kind of is what it is. 921 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the Unclia Bohovich main event far more than 922 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 2: many that resulted in a draw. I'm glad we've heard 923 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 2: Uncle I have coming back now. But so for me, 924 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: it just kind of is what it is. 925 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: But Cody and I were talking earlier. 926 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: Technical fights can be boring, and that's just sort of 927 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 2: how it wasn't the most interesting thirty minutes of my life. 928 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: Probably what you got on the main event, kid, Yeah, 929 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean this isn't fire the year. 930 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, but I did, like, you know, 931 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 8: for as a cap where I go, Okay, So when 932 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 8: Corey fights, now, he got a little bit of wrestling 933 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 8: to him, right, you got a little that wrestling now 934 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 8: that was the big thing. I mean, Aljo took him 935 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 8: down and took his back, submitted him very quick. This 936 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 8: was supposed to be umar in there, and and then 937 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 8: you know Corey did this basically one arm right, you know, 938 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 8: that's what he did. There's no fake injury there. I've 939 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 8: seen the videos. Yeah, he's getting certed. 940 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: You all that. 941 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 8: And rab Font didn't have much off his back. You know, 942 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 8: he tried a couple of guillotine and stuff, but he 943 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 8: couldn't get up off his back. So Corey's obviously pretty 944 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 8: heavy on top Rabaon's a complete fighters. So I'm taking 945 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 8: all the positives away from Corey. The only negative I 946 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 8: would say is if Cheeto goes out there and knocks 947 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 8: out patro Ms, Corey's probably not next Cheeto will Lea Frogham. 948 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: Even though Corey has a winner of that. 949 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 8: They're gonna go, hey, this guy right here, this guy 950 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 8: fucking he's excited, he bangs, Let's bring this guy in. 951 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 8: And then everyone made a big deal about Dan and 952 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 8: White leaving and all this stuff. So I think Corey 953 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 8: fought a smart, good fight. Uh, and he showed a 954 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 8: new wrinkle to his game, which I appreciate, you know 955 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 8: what I mean? 956 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: Moving forward, Ray, I think people make too much of 957 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 2: White leaving the main go ahead. 958 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, this is why they're taking pictures with 959 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: Petrie for this. This is why guys did. 960 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me just your guy, Rob. 961 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: He didn't even mention you, y, Your mic is go 962 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: fucking grating. I'm sending you a sure mic right after 963 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 2: the show. 964 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, but he didn't talk about the Wallace Willie. 965 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 4: That's it. 966 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just waiting to get in here. 967 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 4: This is. 968 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 3: Yes, Sanagan to be penalized for that, unfortunately. And look, 969 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 3: look there's a lot to impact. But like when you're 970 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: backstage with the fighters, guys, and you know, after the 971 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 3: weigh in, they take the fighters in the in the 972 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: in the room to give them the pep talk. They 973 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 3: don't take the coach. They don't want the coaches anywhere 974 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: near that. And why because when they're talking, the coach 975 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: is gonna go fucking don't listen to that man. Fight 976 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 3: your fucking fight. We don't give a ship. You know, 977 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: there's a group of people that think Lenny Garcia versus 978 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: the Karean Zombie was a great fight. 979 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: It was a ballroom. 980 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was exciting. We all want to see those fights. 981 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,479 Speaker 3: But was it a technical fight. Absolutely not so. Again, 982 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: I think Cruz hits out of the park on the broadcast. 983 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: That's why you need different guys looking at things because 984 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 3: he brings up the technicality of what was going on, 985 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, like Brian says, you know, now, 986 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 3: you know, poor poor Corey goes in there thinking I'm 987 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: going to show a side of my game that no 988 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 3: one's ever seen before, and I'm injured and it's the 989 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 3: way I want to go and the guy's going to 990 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: come out. He's miserable now now that everybody's bitching about it. 991 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 3: So you know, I think the real people in the 992 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 3: game understand what was going on. They have an appreciation 993 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 3: for it, but you know, they all running a business. 994 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 3: I will never argue with that, whether I agree with 995 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: her disagree. You want excitement, obviously, you know, you want 996 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: the optic that you want people getting knocked out, But 997 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 3: sometimes it don't have to do what to do to 998 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 3: get the w And hats off to Corey Sandag and 999 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 3: he's a you could tell he's a super cerebral guy. 1000 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 3: He wants to improve all the time. I wouldn't penalize 1001 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 3: the guy for it. I you know, I compliment him 1002 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: for it. 1003 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 2: Hopefully his elbow is not a torn triceps that can 1004 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 2: be an annoying longer term injury. But yeah, I mean 1005 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: a clean fight for coryse Andy and great corner Christian 1006 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: Allen Carrington, Banks, Ryan Hall. They touch on all phases 1007 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: and yeah, they're going to beat you at what you're 1008 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: not good at, and seemingly that's going to be the 1009 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 2: strategy going forward. And if that's off putting for some 1010 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: of the fan base, then I think so be it. 1011 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how he'll be penalized, Brian. Did Dana 1012 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: do a postfight press conference after this or No? No, 1013 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: I haven't right doing Dana post It was about the 1014 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: kid Rock. Kid Rock gave him some gun, that's all 1015 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 2: I said. Yeah, right, So I don't know that Dana 1016 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: has necessarily addressed this. I'm not sure the extent to 1017 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: which Corey Sandagan is going to be penalized. There are 1018 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: a lot of different layers to this main event to 1019 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 2: get into. I don't know that Rob font was expectant 1020 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: that he was going to get wrestled to that degree, 1021 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: And even though I thought his defensive grappling was pretty 1022 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: good early, it was not particularly good late. Dominic Cruz 1023 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: is a fantastic grappling jiu jitsu analyst. There is not 1024 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 2: a single thing, and he had me in darsh chokes 1025 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 2: all weekend. I am never going back to jiu jitsu class. 1026 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you there's nothing that could happen 1027 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: in that octagon that he does not recognize acutely and 1028 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: can't simplify and explain to the audience. So I wanted 1029 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: to shout out Domina Cruz there, but Ray Cory Sandhagen 1030 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 2: is an outstanding striker and would beat a lot of 1031 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 2: the guys in this division in a straight kickboxing match. 1032 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: But he's also maybe the foremost student of the game 1033 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 2: in this entire division. So I don't know that anybody 1034 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: should be all that surprised that he's going to present 1035 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 2: a more layered version as he gets to a more 1036 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 2: advanced stage. 1037 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with one hundred percent. I'm going 1038 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: to play you something to Dominic Cruez said something I 1039 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 3: couldn't agree with more when he said, you know everybody's 1040 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 3: saying you do. 1041 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 4: This, do that, do that. 1042 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 3: If it ain't into your wheelhouse, you ain't doing shit. 1043 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 3: That's why I always be game. What the fuck is 1044 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: a game plan? We all know what game plan should be, 1045 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: can you guy do it? And some guys can't, So 1046 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 3: that to me, the real game plan is when you 1047 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: can't do something and you make what you can work. 1048 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 3: That's that's a game plan because then that takes special training. 1049 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 3: But you could could talk all day long, go for 1050 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: the leg, do this, do that. It's the guys you 1051 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 3: could see. That's not where he was at, you know. 1052 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 3: So Dominic, I think you know a lot look a 1053 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 3: lot of times, you know, even I disagree with some 1054 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 3: of the things, especially when he's ragging off this, But 1055 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 3: for the moment, man, I agree one with him. He's 1056 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: an intelligent guy. He does a great, you know job 1057 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 3: analyzing those positions and explaining it to the people. He 1058 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: was dead on with that he can't do it. If 1059 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: he could do what he would do. You know, I 1060 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: think it's that simple, you know what I mean. So 1061 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 3: that's off to him. 1062 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: So, Jason, Dominic and I were able to watch the 1063 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 2: last four rounds of Jake Paul versus Nate Diez and 1064 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 2: Jay You at a front row seat for dom going 1065 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 2: at one of the Jake Paul supporters in the room. 1066 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 3: That was fun. 1067 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: Oh well, Dominic Cruz. 1068 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 2: I mean, no matter who you are, no matter how 1069 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 2: long he's known you, anything you utter out of your mouth, 1070 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: what he will hold you to it I've said it 1071 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: on my show. So if you if you no matter 1072 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: what you say, if he doesn't agree with it, and 1073 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: he's tactful, but you know, and this dude is yoked 1074 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: and you know, drunk, and I'm just I'm just Dom's 1075 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: just sitting there, just just picking this guy apart verbally 1076 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 2: to the point where the guy's like, basically like I'm 1077 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 2: just playing Devil's advocate, you know, like he's pulled oppon 1078 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: on his side. But Dom is just I've never met 1079 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: anyone quite like Dom, but I like it. I like 1080 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 2: being challenged by Dom more than more than most things. 1081 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 3: He's the man, Jason. I'll disagree with one thing you said. 1082 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: Tactley not tactful at all. He's right, you face that guy. Yeah, 1083 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 3: he's gonna say, Oh, I don't know how the fact 1084 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: there is with that, but I mean he's he's attacked 1085 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: me and Sarah together. I mean, the guy's the guy's awesome. 1086 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 3: He really is. He definitely cannot control himself. There's no 1087 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 3: way in the world. 1088 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: So one thing that as a parent I really try 1089 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: to preach is tactfulness. And yeah, Jay, I think he 1090 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: left out just two words. He can be tactful. For 1091 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: sure he can lead the league in tactlessness as well. 1092 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 2: But I absolutely love the man. One of my best 1093 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 2: friends in the world, Brian Pechy, I might give you 1094 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: on Tatiana Suarez over Jessica and Drage with a Gateen choke. 1095 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 2: It comes in one thirty one of the second round, 1096 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: one of five performance bonus winners on the night, and 1097 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: the first time in the history of the Anak and 1098 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 2: Florian podcast, both of our handicappers offered up five unit 1099 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 2: plays on Tatiana. Jay and I were talking about this 1100 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: in our hotel room, that all of these sharps were 1101 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: loading up on Suarez. By finish, I have to think 1102 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 2: the books got absolutely killed. What were your thoughts on 1103 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 2: Suarez doing what most expected her to do in Nashville. 1104 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 8: I loved it, you know, I said this last podcast, 1105 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 8: I'll say it to gettings and picking up a little steam. 1106 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 8: You know, I know chicks man, you know five, you 1107 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 8: know whack here, no listen. I had her by submission 1108 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 8: to was plus T twenty five. I got it early 1109 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 8: in the day and I like what she did. I mean, 1110 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 8: Androge stuck kept her hips out. You're not getting a single. 1111 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 8: You're not gonna dugle on me. 1112 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: So that's what she does. 1113 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 8: She goes an ankle, picks her and takes her to 1114 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 8: the ground and works her game on top. Didn't rush anything, 1115 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 8: kept her distance in the first round, didn't try to 1116 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 8: rush the finish, avoided those big bombs against a legend 1117 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 8: and andrage and then goes out there and uses one 1118 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 8: of those fancy chokes. Her boyfriend's teaching her, or that 1119 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 8: she's teaching him, who knows she's not good, and got 1120 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,479 Speaker 8: her out of there. And I was blowing way again. 1121 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 8: I've said it before. You know, I'm not doing a 1122 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 8: hot take here, but without the injury, she'd be champion. 1123 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 8: And I'm looking for maybe one more fight from her 1124 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 8: and then we're going to see her for the belt, 1125 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 8: I think, unless they rush her to the belt, but 1126 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 8: I think the belt's coming soon. 1127 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 2: Ray I thought it was a banner night, as I 1128 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: mentioned on the sticks for Dominant Cruz, and he felt 1129 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 2: as though in our fighter meeting and in round one, 1130 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: Jessica Andraj's tactics were correct, the thought process going into 1131 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 2: a very challenging yes, was correct. But Tatiana Suarez is 1132 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: a real problem, and perhaps I'm overstating it. When I 1133 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: suggest she could be a three division champion. But she 1134 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: has a mean streak, she has an appetite for in 1135 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 2: the room, freestyle wrestling base and she wants everyone to 1136 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 2: know she's a much better striker than you think too. 1137 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well first, so be too fund the wax. Back 1138 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 3: in the day, it was code for five guys are 1139 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 3: getting killed. I don't know what the hell that's what 1140 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: it means to me. I'm like, Petrie's going to the 1141 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: knarth side. Is he going on something? 1142 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 4: Wars is a complete and utter beat. 1143 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 3: From the beast. I even think the relationship she has 1144 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 3: with Pat it's just you know that meant dominant. You 1145 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 3: know he's a savage. Also, this is a this is 1146 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 3: a power couple from hell, these two. I mean, I 1147 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 3: don't think anything's stopping her. Look, I expected her to 1148 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: do exactly what she was going to do. She's driven, 1149 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 3: she's focused, she's got the skill. I still think there's 1150 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, some gaps in the stand up, but you 1151 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 3: know she could overcome that. Uh but all in all, 1152 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 3: that's going to be a hard person to deter to, 1153 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 3: you know, to stop it to get from what she 1154 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: wants and what a great performance and andrage has been 1155 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 3: stumbling a little bit lately. So was that with Tatiana's weightliss? 1156 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 3: Were they only waitliss the original weightless Lanchfield's. 1157 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: No, not Blanchfield's weight class. So Blanchfield's are twenty five 1158 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: or of these and we call it Blanchfield's weight class. 1159 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 2: Alexic Gasso, we absolutely love you, beutiful and you're anes fighter, 1160 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 2: but one hundred and fifteen pounds strawweight. Tazi Suaz told 1161 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 2: us during our Fighter maybe she ate steak Diane the 1162 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: week before the Montana de la Rosa fight. So she 1163 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 2: is a strawweight right and I will get into the 1164 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: bantamweight stuck actually as well. The point is is that 1165 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 2: she has a win over the current UFC flyweight champion, 1166 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 2: Alexa Grosso. Now that fight happened at strawwaight, but most 1167 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 2: people would argue that Tatiana Suarez would be favored right 1168 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: now to beat Alexa Grosso. Maybe she wouldn't be favored 1169 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: to be Valentino Chepchenko. They have their rematch du Grosso 1170 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 2: and Chefchenko September sixteenth, in a different division. But Suarez, 1171 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 2: eventually most people believe will ascend to a sty a 1172 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: strawweight title fight and perhaps in a fight or so, 1173 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 2: and she would then potentially be in a lot of 1174 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 2: favorable matchups at twenty five. And then when you look 1175 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 2: at thirty five and Juliana rock Kel Pennington, Yeah she's 1176 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 2: given up a lot of size, but those matchups are 1177 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: good for her. All these matchups are good for her, 1178 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: you know. And she's eleven and ozer, you know, she's 1179 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 2: not twenty eight. I think she's thirty two, right, because 1180 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 2: her a lot of her prime has been taken up 1181 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: by injuries. But uh, I don't know, Ray, I think 1182 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 2: I think she could realize potential titles in three divisions. 1183 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah she's got, he's got. I think she's metfinitely for 1184 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 3: the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely for fifteen and twenty five, 1185 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,479 Speaker 3: thirty five. 1186 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 4: I can jump, but she looks huge in that In me, 1187 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 4: That's why I wasn't sure, because I know Blinch build Foyge, 1188 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 4: I guess androge went up. 1189 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: For that fight. But right, it's some good stuff coming 1190 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 3: down the pipe for her. She looks like just her 1191 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 3: headspace is really in the right spot. I mean, that's 1192 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 3: that's I see. When I forget about technical I see 1193 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 3: just utter confidence and determination, and I think she's been 1194 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 3: through some adversity in her life that this is like 1195 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 3: we were saying, you know, the adversity she's been through 1196 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 3: is even better than is even worse than the adversity 1197 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: we're talking about, comparing fighting to public speaking. So she's 1198 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 3: a she's a girl on a mission. I think she's 1199 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 3: got the right people around her, and you know, she's 1200 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 3: she's a force to be reckoned with. 1201 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wise to acknowledge the people around her. 1202 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 2: The interim bellatur Vandamway Champion Patchie mix and sort of 1203 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: opposites attract, right. He lets everything out there in terms 1204 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 2: of his emotions and things, and she keeps everything pretty tight. 1205 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 2: But he's a shy kid. I got to eat him 1206 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: and an absolute killer and uh, certainly one of the 1207 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: best one thirty five ers in the world. 1208 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see where Tatiana as far as goes 1209 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: from here. But uh, she is a real problem. 1210 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: Hey, Jason, I would like to start with you on 1211 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 2: Diego Lopez and Gavin Tucker if I could, how about 1212 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 2: this Diego Lopez cat So most of our listenership knows 1213 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 2: what he did against movsar Iv Loyev in his short 1214 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 2: notice UFC debut. But then he's fighting a Gavin Tucker, 1215 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 2: whose game as hell super motivated, coming back from devastating 1216 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 2: injury for the first time in seid years. But Gavin 1217 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 2: Tucker at times has looked like a really elief fighter. 1218 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: And Diego Lopez, who couldn't even get to the UFC 1219 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 2: for some circumstances, you know, chews him up and spits 1220 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 2: him out in like ninety seconds. So what'd you think 1221 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,760 Speaker 2: about the affable quickly becoming fan favorite Diego Lopez? 1222 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: Chason, I mean, can't get enough of him. 1223 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 2: I met him in Vancouver and just gushed to his 1224 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 2: face about his last fight, which was a loss. 1225 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that eviloid. 1226 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: But I've never a lot of guys performed very well 1227 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 2: and come out on the losing end, but that wasn't 1228 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: a split, and to me, that was as good as 1229 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: you can come out of a loss. And he is him, 1230 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 2: I agree, And he's got that star power. And there's 1231 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 2: certain guys where English might not be their first language, 1232 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 2: but it's not going to surprise me if that guy's 1233 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 2: talking great English on the mic soon too, do you 1234 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 1235 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 1: I just he has the star power and you know 1236 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: that matters. 1237 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 2: Like we were talking about Tatiana a second ago with 1238 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: Amanda Nonez exiting door. Right here comes Tatiana Suarez. Whether 1239 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,919 Speaker 2: they're in the same division or not, star power really 1240 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 2: matters in this. Diego has it, Tatiana has it. I 1241 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 2: can't get enough of that kid. I'm so happy he's 1242 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 2: on the winning end, and I can't wait he'll be 1243 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: in the ranking soon. I think he's a stut Hey Ray, 1244 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 2: long ago Diego Lopez, long time jiu jitsu coach of 1245 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 2: Alexa Grosso, and a Reine Aldonna. It's been a few 1246 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 2: different things that have sort of kept him out of 1247 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 2: the UFC. But when you see a guy like this, 1248 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 2: I can't help but wonder, like, man, where has this 1249 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 2: guy been? Like give me the haircut, give me the 1250 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 2: the open mindedness to learning and speaking the English language, Like, 1251 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: give me this whole Diego Lopez package. 1252 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. 1253 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, he came out. I thought I was at an 1254 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 3: INSYNCT concert with that haircut. But you're never gonna forget 1255 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: looking at that guy for sure, man, I mean he's 1256 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 3: got it going on. Look, he could have had some fights. 1257 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: I didn't really haven't studied and that. You know, the 1258 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 3: UFC is very particular with you know what they want. 1259 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 3: We just we kind of hit on a little bit. 1260 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 3: They want excitement. I think the guy's super exciting. But 1261 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 3: maybe I had a couple of that warrant. Maybe that 1262 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 3: was the reason he was out. But he ain't out. 1263 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 3: He's not out anymore, and he's in and he's in 1264 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 3: with a vengeance. And especially if you're a jiu jitsu guy, 1265 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 3: you got to love what you saw around him. I 1266 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 3: mean I started rubbing them away after that fight. I 1267 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 3: just the pain that he put that other guy in 1268 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 3: was he had to snap that on for sure. So yeah, 1269 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 3: he looks like he's, you know, the first time he 1270 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 3: got in with I'm not even gonna make an attempt 1271 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: at of the guy's name, but uh he did great 1272 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 3: in that fight too against a really top game guy. 1273 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 3: What's his name, John mister prom station. Yeah whatever, So 1274 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 3: he I thought he was to get in that fight. 1275 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 2: So hey, big gun Iverson, my friend Hayden Iverson on 1276 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: Instagram at hay Jive picks, I think he was suingesting. 1277 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 2: It's like an Emo haircut or something that we got 1278 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 2: with Diego Little President, That's what it is on. 1279 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 8: My podcasts I call the cutie boy haircut. 1280 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: He's just it's just down here. He's just a little 1281 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: cutie boy with it. 1282 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 8: And I had a big a miss because I took 1283 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 8: Gavin Tucker there. Uh you know, I saw the cody 1284 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 8: and people, but Diego Lopez might be him. And another 1285 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 8: thing that I'm super embarrassed about is is two things. 1286 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 8: One is as a handicapper, I don't ever because I 1287 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 8: watched footage of them. 1288 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 3: I don't ever. 1289 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 8: Sometimes my dumb brain go, oh, this guy's going to 1290 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 8: get better. I've seen him. I'm like, oh, I've seen 1291 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 8: I've seen him fight so and so and he lost, 1292 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 8: but he's getting better. I mean what he did when 1293 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 8: he trapped the arm in that triangle, I thought, you know, 1294 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 8: Kenny's gonna break it down better. But I thought Gavin 1295 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 8: was getting out and he wasn't. That's a grip strength, 1296 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 8: that's a light shrink. That's patience, that's Diego knowing exactly 1297 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 8: who's doing. And secondly, I'm the biggest Patrick Swayzee fan 1298 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 8: of the world. I watched the movie Roadhouse ninety two times. 1299 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm going for my hundreds. 1300 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 8: Diego Lopez looks exactly like Patrick Swayze if you can 1301 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 8: give him a good look, And I'm like, why am 1302 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 8: I not picking this fucking guy? So Nick swinging and 1303 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 8: miss from me. I apologize to the fans out there. 1304 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 8: Took a dog shot. 1305 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 3: It failed. 1306 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 8: Diego Lopez is somebody I'm not gonna overlook anymore because uh, yeah, 1307 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 8: you're not fantastic man and. 1308 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: The Shuayza simularities actually are underniged. 1309 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: All Hey, Ray, before I let you go, Yes, we're 1310 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 2: going to talk to you next Monday, but you're actually 1311 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 2: going to be in Vegas for Dana White's Contender series. 1312 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 2: Pompos is competing Tuesday, August fifteenth. Yes, is that the 1313 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 2: word on the street that pompos Gregorio? Yeah, we gotta 1314 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 2: being great and that that is the word on the 1315 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 2: street is the correct word. He We will be in 1316 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 2: Vegas for the Contender series. Super excited for Pompos. Waited 1317 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 2: a long time also to get to so I hope 1318 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 2: he steps up and does what he should do. All right, buddy, 1319 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 2: Well thanks for giving me a full hour. We will 1320 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 2: talk to you next Monday live from Las Vegas. And uh, 1321 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: you know you're the man just seeing the whole long 1322 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 2: ago entourage in Nashville with his site. 1323 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: Seriously, it was. 1324 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 3: A we had a great time of speaking. I got 1325 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 3: one thing with the Jake Paul ds fight because I 1326 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 3: don't understand that I got no dog in this morn 1327 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 3: If I gotta, I think I have tell me, guys, 1328 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 3: if I'm right done this, I got the marketing idea 1329 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,479 Speaker 3: of a lifetime. We should this because I'm not saying 1330 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 3: the guy can't box. I think he could box. But 1331 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 3: you know he's twenty what is he twenty six? This 1332 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 3: kid twenty five? He's fighting guys thirty nine, thirty eight. 1333 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: Here's what we do. If bow Nichols listening, bon Nickel, 1334 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: this is what I want you to do. You do 1335 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,919 Speaker 3: an MMA fight. Let's get him a couple of world 1336 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: champion old boxes. Let's go bone Nickel against like Dello 1337 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 3: Hooya may fight. Let's do bon Nickel against no. Even better, 1338 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 3: let's do Bernard Hopkins against bow Nickels. So he's the 1339 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 3: younger guy, he's got thirty pounds on everybody. See how 1340 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 3: those fights lift last. I want, I want Petrie. Let's 1341 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 3: put us together. I go bon Nickel again, put him 1342 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 3: against anybody. What's gonna happen? In that fight. Imagine a 1343 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 3: young guy taking on guys in their late thirties early forties. 1344 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 3: That will former champion boxes give it to me, man, 1345 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: let's do it. I say, let's see how that looks. 1346 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 3: So I don't understand what's going on in this YouTube world. 1347 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 3: I really don't. I'm never gonna get it, but that's 1348 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 3: what I'd like to see, get a young guy like that. 1349 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 3: How long will those fights go? Can that lou Alvarez 1350 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: put him in with bon Nickel? What happens in that fight? 1351 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Right now? 1352 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 3: What's going on? I'm well. 1353 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Dominic Cruz's thesis statement on this whole thing is that 1354 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 2: Jake Paul. 1355 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 1: Yeah no, and it's good. Ray, Sorry, there's a little 1356 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:26,959 Speaker 1: bit of a delay. 1357 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 2: Dominic Cruz's thesis statement on this whole thing is that 1358 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 2: Jake Paul only fights the already wounded and largely only 1359 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 2: competes as a betting favorite. I think the price on 1360 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 2: the Tommy Fury fight was close, right, But yeah no, 1361 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean that's not lost on me either. I guess 1362 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: for me whide I'd realizing and perhaps if we had 1363 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 2: a pay per view in Nashville it might have been 1364 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 2: a little bit different, But we found ourselves not rushing 1365 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 2: to a TV, but certainly curious as Nate Diaz supporters 1366 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 2: to get to a TV to watch the final few rounds. 1367 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 2: And yet I see all these people and I'm picking 1368 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: their brains and I'm wondering, you know, we got UFC 1369 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 2: Fight Night. 1370 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: At bridget Own Arena. 1371 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 2: We're here for the first time in four years, right 1372 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 2: down the street, sort of wondering why Jake Paul is 1373 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 2: dominating the evening. But uh, he's a massive combat sports superstar. 1374 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: When I would go pick up my kids at elementary 1375 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: school a couple of years ago, the name I here 1376 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 2: on the playground is Jake Paul, not George Saint Pierre. 1377 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 2: You know, so's an absolute star Ray, I mean. 1378 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 3: And I applaud that. Yeah, I applaud that. 1379 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 4: And welcome to the world of the YouTube stars. 1380 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 3: I mean, that's it. But you got to remember he 1381 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 3: had a great dance partner. Nate Diaz is super super popular. 1382 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 3: You could see where every anywhere that guy goes iftands up. 1383 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 3: So you know, hats off to those guys. 1384 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 8: I do. 1385 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 4: Look, so there's you know, there's like reality and then 1386 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 4: you know there's other things. 1387 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 3: But what they did and the money they generated is unbelievable. 1388 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 3: So hats off to everybody for that. But as far 1389 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 3: as looking at it beyond entertainment, I think it to 1390 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 3: me is a little odd, you know what I mean. 1391 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 3: I applaud what they do and how he puts it together. 1392 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 3: But if you want to see the flip side of that, 1393 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 3: do my equation, because I don't want it to come 1394 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 3: off as hating. I think entertable wise, I like it, 1395 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, like marketing wise, it's it's a it's a 1396 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 3: stroke of genius. But you know, it's just you can't 1397 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 3: be two hundred pounds calling up guys that were fighting 1398 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 3: at fifty five or seventy. I just don't get it. 1399 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 3: You know, you want to put That's why I say 1400 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 3: you can get bad nick Bo Nichols one a five. 1401 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 3: Put him in with a one sixty pounds champion of 1402 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,919 Speaker 3: you know, boxing champ and I love boxing, but that's 1403 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 3: not a fight. It's really not a fight. There's there 1404 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 3: would be a one in a million shot he loses 1405 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 3: that fight, and he's just notice you're not there's none 1406 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 3: of those guys could stop to take down there or 1407 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 3: the submissions that's going to follow, you know. So the 1408 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 3: fact that he is fighting the older guys and not 1409 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 3: even getting rid of him is very weird to me. So, 1410 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, like again, but I don't want to like again, 1411 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 3: it's not a tree that I'm just making a tobservation. 1412 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 3: I got no, you know, nothing interested in any of it. 1413 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, well we could go on and 1414 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 2: on about this. I'm trying to be respectful of your time. 1415 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Like Dustin Jacoby is a light heavyweight, right, he is 1416 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 2: a decorated kicks Kobe. Look at Kobe yn't kick you know, 1417 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 2: how does he fare in a boxing match with Jake Paul. Well, 1418 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 2: then some people will say, but Jake cuts down or whatever. 1419 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 2: He's not really So take Sean Strickland for example, right, 1420 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 2: like I will I want to see Matt Brown like 1421 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 2: Jake Paul. But Dono's like, no, you're picking these wounded animals. 1422 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Matt Brown is too fucking tough and 1423 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: two many Matt Brown will knock out Jake Paul if 1424 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 2: you give him the opportunity. 1425 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know. I know he 1426 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: can't kick and fucking elbow. 1427 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 2: If you give Matt Brown the opportunity, he will knock 1428 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 2: Jake Paul out, I promise, I promise you. 1429 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: How does Sean Strickland do? Like, how does Sean Strickland do? 1430 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Sean Strickland is a primed, primal mma athlete with a 1431 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 2: very good jab. I know Sean kicks too, but Ray, 1432 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: how would Sean Strickland do against Jake Paul in a 1433 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 2: boxing set? 1434 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 3: I could tell you he would love to have the opportunity. 1435 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 3: I know that, So I don't think definitely picked Strickland. 1436 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 3: But this, this is the beauty of what's going on. 1437 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 3: We're all here talking about about it. I think that's 1438 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 3: the beautiful about it. They've gotten to that. That's not 1439 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 3: an easy level to get to. Everybody, Like you say, 1440 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 3: they're mentioning Paul's name on the uh, on the on 1441 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 3: the playground with the kids. So like again for that 1442 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 3: stuff with foreign it too, I think it's fantastic. I 1443 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 3: I I don't get it, Like again, I say, I'm 1444 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 3: never going to get it. But they did it. And 1445 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 3: that's the world world we live in today. And you know, 1446 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 3: like again, hats off to them one night. But as 1447 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 3: far as analyzing it as like a fight, it's almost like, 1448 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 3: you know, the athletic. 1449 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Long mma nine three five eight on social media, very 1450 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: long ago MMA on Twitter. But we appreciate Ray for 1451 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 2: the extended time today, and uh, we're gonna bounce on 1452 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 2: out of here in a few minutes. But I do 1453 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 2: want to get into some of the other UFC Fight 1454 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 2: night highlights and then don't forget. We'll be back with 1455 01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 2: you coming up on Thursday with a full preview the 1456 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 2: fight night Vicente Luke and Hafayel dos Anjos. We will 1457 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: get Kenny's thoughts on the Sanjagan font business, but primarily 1458 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 2: a lot of what we spent our time on Thursday 1459 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 2: will be to look ahead with some predictions and a 1460 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: employing podcast presented by Drafting Sportsbooks. So all right, there's 1461 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 2: so many different things that happened on this fight night. 1462 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 2: I want to try to give some of these other 1463 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 2: wins the acknowledgment that they deserve. So Kennedy and Zechigu 1464 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 2: has been plagued by slow starts before bry and it 1465 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 2: him again. You know, he did land a big shot, 1466 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 2: but the one that Dustin Jacoby landed was big er. Certainly, 1467 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: maybe you would have liked the referee to give in 1468 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Zechiku one more beat, but I didn't have a huge 1469 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 2: issue with the stoppage, but it was interesting. You had 1470 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 2: in Zechiku had won three in a row, Jacobe who 1471 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 2: had lost two in a row, and I spent some 1472 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: time with the General safe siout at the airport, and 1473 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 2: there's no denying the nature of this as a setback 1474 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: for in Zechagu and a huge win for Jacoby moving forward. 1475 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a big fight. 1476 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 8: It was hard for me to break down you. I 1477 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 8: went Jacoby by dog. I thought it was gonna go 1478 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 8: over two and a half. That was my big play 1479 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 8: because both these guys, you know, like I said, Kennedy 1480 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 8: comes out a little slower and Jacoby kind of picks 1481 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 8: people apart. Kenny came off fast, and that's what plagued 1482 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 8: him in this fight. He did come out fast, but 1483 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 8: he walked right into a right hand after landing a 1484 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 8: good shot. So it was like kind of one of 1485 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 8: those things where it's like a started to slow. I'm 1486 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 8: I started too fast. I felt for the guy. I 1487 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 8: did think the stop, which was a hair early. I'm 1488 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 8: not going to cry about it or whatever. It's not 1489 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 8: gonna be a big like post. I thought you'd give Kennedy, 1490 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 8: who's been hurt before you give him a little bit leeway, 1491 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 8: but again the refs in there, I'm not so. I 1492 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 8: thought Jacoby looked good. This was a big fight for 1493 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 8: two five two five. My eyes are wide open and 1494 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 8: these are guys are pretty exciting. Similar style, similar builds. 1495 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 8: So this is a big win for Jacoby here. You know, 1496 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 8: I'm I'm I like what he said. He's like, I've 1497 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 8: been fighting behind, let me fight ahead now. I think 1498 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 8: there's some good matchups in front of him. 1499 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 3: For sure. 1500 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 2: He wants that Ryan Span fight. His teammate Anthony Ryan 1501 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 2: Hart Smith is getting it, you know, but that would 1502 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 2: have been interesting, right if if he could have had 1503 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 2: that Ryan Span fight. That's a big fight for Span, 1504 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, getting that Anthony Smith rematch at a comin 1505 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 2: and Singapore. 1506 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 5: It's actually just a. 1507 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 2: Few weeks away. So there were a lot of decisions 1508 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 2: on this fight night. Some of them were very entertaining, 1509 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 2: right Billy corn Tello over Damon Jackson, great rally by 1510 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Billy q DJ had his moments. Cody Durdin is an 1511 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 2: absolute stud out of American Top Team, one of all 1512 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 2: DeSandre Pantos's primary training partners. Four straight wins for him 1513 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 2: as he gets by a very game. Jake White, Kong Hadley. 1514 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 2: Jake Hadley's got that Jake Hadley strut. I don't know 1515 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 2: how I feel about. It's pretty cool, It's definitely his. 1516 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 2: But there were a lot of decisions, a lot of 1517 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 2: big finishes. Carlston Harris with an unbelievable choke to get 1518 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Wells to sleep. Wells had been perfect in the UFC. 1519 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 2: But Jason, I want to pick your brain if I could. 1520 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 2: On Ludaviit Klein. You absolutely love this guy and he 1521 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 2: was fighting a guy who you know very well at 1522 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 2: Nacioba Monday has given your relationship with Billa Muhammad, who 1523 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 2: was in his corner. Nacho was game. I know Cruz 1524 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 2: loves watching Nacho perform. But Ludaviit Klein proven to be 1525 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 2: the better man on this night at one fifty five. Well, 1526 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 2: Ludovick Klein's a guy that when I started getting deeper 1527 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 2: into the UFC about three years ago, he was He 1528 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 2: had a big win and I sort of plucked myself 1529 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,480 Speaker 2: a little bit, got a little bit on that bandwagon 1530 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 2: early and just I know he had to miss some 1531 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 2: fights getting hurt here and there. I just love the 1532 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 2: physique for the weight class and his boxing is crispy. 1533 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 2: He's really difficult really everywhere. And to me, though, you know, 1534 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 2: Balamuhammad had a lot of confidence in Nacho in this spot. 1535 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 2: He'd liked the matchup very much. And I to me, though, 1536 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 2: I think losses early on in the UFC, in this realm, 1537 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 2: like for Ignacio, couldn't be more valuable. Losing in that 1538 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 2: fashion I think can actually expedite the championship run in 1539 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 2: a way you know, other you know, really sort of 1540 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 2: getting beat up. And it wasn't close. I know he looked, 1541 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 2: you know, at the end, pretty pleased, but it wasn't close. 1542 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 2: I thirty twenty seven for me really all day long, 1543 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 2: and to me, hard for me not to focused on 1544 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 2: Nacho because he's a big part of sort of bullies life, 1545 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 2: Bala's life and training him. 1546 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: But to me, it's a good spot. I think Nacho. 1547 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 2: I think Blah would have liked to see Nacho fight 1548 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 2: some guys even had he come out of this with 1549 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 2: a win. I don't think think he necessarily ready for 1550 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 2: the rankings yet either, so I think it's good to 1551 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 2: have a setback at this stage. 1552 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: But look out for Ludivit kleim Man I think he 1553 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: matches up really well with a lot of guys in 1554 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:08,559 Speaker 1: that division. 1555 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 2: All right, nicely done at Welterway. Carlston Harris over Jeremiah 1556 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Wells by technical submission Anaconda. So ry Jeremiah Wells. I 1557 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 2: don't know what it was like for you guys watching 1558 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 2: this athlete live. And he's a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt. 1559 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 2: He got choked to sleep here by the Guyana native 1560 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Carlston Harris, and I feel so good for Harris, thirty 1561 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 2: six year old getting the bonus. 1562 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 1: His coach is the man. 1563 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 2: But dude, Jeremiah Wells's ability to cover distance quickly in 1564 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 2: the octagon, the athleticism. Oftentimes you'll hear me say that 1565 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 2: American football is exponentially more dangerous than Nick martial arts, 1566 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 2: and it is. But one of the big reasons is 1567 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 2: that these athletes on a football field can get going 1568 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 2: thirty miles per hour, and even when Jorge Mosfital knocks 1569 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 2: out Ben Askron with a knee, probably only going like 1570 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 2: eleven miles per hour. So I think Jeremiah Wells can 1571 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 2: get going like twenty five miles per hour in the octagon. 1572 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody throw their body faster across the 1573 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 2: octagon to where they want to get than miss welterweight. 1574 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 2: And I know he lost the fight, but uh yeah, 1575 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 2: this Jeremia Wells, dude, what a freaking athlete, man, holy shit. 1576 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Super athlete. And he's not young. He's not a young dude. 1577 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 8: He's out there doing it at an advanced age, I 1578 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 8: mean advanced age for the sport. 1579 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,600 Speaker 1: And he looked great. I mean he was cruising to 1580 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: a victory. 1581 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 8: A buddy of mine picked up Harris at plus eight 1582 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 8: hundred and that third round, I mean, you know, Harris 1583 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 8: wasn't giving up. Harrison wasn't getting out of that. Dude's 1584 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 8: a dog in there. And then when he had the 1585 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 8: when he had the choke, it was kind of an 1586 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 8: awkward choke and Jeremiah kind of had his arm or here. 1587 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 8: I look at my wife, I'm like, he's safe. He's 1588 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 8: said if next thing, you know, he's sleeping, And my 1589 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 8: wife's like. 1590 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 3: What's up? 1591 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 4: What do what is he saying? 1592 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 8: I'm the guy I don't got a black button jiu jitsu, babe, 1593 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 8: I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But 1594 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 8: I thought he was okay because the arm was there, 1595 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 8: and then next thing, you know, he's sleeping, and then 1596 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 8: you know, Carlsonaiirs is saying, hey, I get that all 1597 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 8: the time in the gym. Guys think they're safe, they're not. 1598 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 8: You know, this is this was a fight that I 1599 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 8: thought was pretty easy to read. On the Jeremiah well side, 1600 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 8: I had a Jeremia Well's ticket was looking good and 1601 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 8: Harrison spoils a party, which I kind of love because 1602 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 8: that's fucking mma, you know what I mean. 1603 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm happy for the guy. 1604 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 8: You know, he lost two rounds and he didn't give up. 1605 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 8: That's what it's all about. 1606 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 2: Jason Herzog absolutely all over it. And I actually delayed 1607 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 2: the call right because had I known right in the moment, right, 1608 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 2: I think I was sort of leaning into some of 1609 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 2: the analysis that we didn't necessarily think it was going 1610 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 2: to happen. 1611 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Had I known right in the moment. 1612 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 2: I probably would have acknowledged that he had just submitted 1613 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 2: to Henzo Gracie Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt. But congratulations 1614 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 2: to Carlson Harris and you're right, Jeremi Wells also thirty 1615 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,600 Speaker 2: six and getting. 1616 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 1: It done in a big way. 1617 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 2: All right, Last thing I want to get to on 1618 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 2: this UFC fight night. I want to get your collective 1619 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,560 Speaker 2: opinion on this and then I'll let you guys go. 1620 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 2: And I appreciate the extended time as you fell as 1621 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 2: sort of helped me fill in for Ken Flow today. 1622 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 2: All right, So, Jason Herzog Mark Goddard, I believe they're 1623 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 2: the best two referees in mixed martial arts. There are 1624 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 2: other guys that I think are right there too, but 1625 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 2: we had the right referee for this main event as 1626 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. And there are a few referees 1627 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 2: that I also hold in high regard that unequivocally would 1628 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,879 Speaker 2: have at least worn Corey san Haagen for more activity 1629 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,640 Speaker 2: here and at some point would have stood this fight up. 1630 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 2: I don't think this fight should have stood up at all. 1631 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan and I have long been aligned on this. 1632 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 2: We feel like a fighter has to get out themselves. Now, 1633 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 2: the rules don't necessarily dictate that the referee has the 1634 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 2: power to stand this fight up. I guess I would 1635 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 2: just name a few right not to name names, And 1636 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 2: this isn't necessarily me being overly critical. It's just my 1637 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,720 Speaker 2: preference as a fan. But I think, you know, I 1638 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 2: think Mark Beltron certainly stands that fight up. Dan Murgliatto 1639 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 2: without a shadow of a doubt, whom I love as 1640 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 2: a human being and I think is a good referee. 1641 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:34,880 Speaker 2: I think he stands that fight up. I think Mark 1642 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Smith sands that fight up, or at least offers up 1643 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 2: a warning. So Patriarch, start with you on this. Yeah, 1644 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 2: you're as educated an MMA fan as I can find. 1645 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,680 Speaker 2: Where do you stand on Herzog not really giving san 1646 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,560 Speaker 2: Haagen so much as a warning all night long and 1647 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 2: allowing the fight to play out the way it did. 1648 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:53,400 Speaker 3: I liked it. 1649 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 9: I mean that's MMA. 1650 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 8: They're battling position on the ground. I mean Rob font 1651 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 8: was trying to secure guard, Cory was on a pass guard. 1652 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 8: He did it a few times, and the strikes there 1653 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:01,840 Speaker 8: were scramble on the ground. 1654 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 3: That's what you do. 1655 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 8: You gotta make them work. The only time I'm ever 1656 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 8: really vocal about, okay, let's let's kind of maybe break 1657 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 8: him up is when in the clinch. If you're in 1658 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 8: the clinch against the phage, a guy against the cage. 1659 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 8: Excuse me, the guy's clearly trying to stall. Let's give 1660 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 8: him a clop, Let's give him a warning and when 1661 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 8: you said that the first fight, the first ref the 1662 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 8: problem I was Mark Smith. He has no time for 1663 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 8: that shit. He he is very quick to stand people. 1664 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 8: But I think he's a very good raf He's, you know, 1665 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 8: fairly new, has been around, I mean not new to 1666 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 8: the UFCC, at least he's been around. He hasn't been 1667 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 8: around as long as these other guys. But he's he 1668 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 8: doesn't play that shit. All right, let's get up, we're going, 1669 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 8: let's go. And I think a crowd maybe plays in 1670 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 8: the factor of that. But I think Jason Drzok is 1671 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 8: the best referee, my favorite referee at least. 1672 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 3: And they're working. 1673 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 8: That's MMA, that's that's what it is. And they were 1674 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 8: working and Corey's working, and I had no problem with 1675 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 8: it whatsoever. I think that is that is a sport. 1676 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: And I agree with you, Okay, I really I think 1677 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: he hit on everything. 1678 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 2: You know, and I we talked about this in Nashville, John, 1679 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 2: and I said, were there were those guys. First of all, 1680 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with you, John, I don't think 1681 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 2: those guys necessarily stand it up because I don't think 1682 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 2: there was a single. 1683 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 1: Moment where it really where it would have been the 1684 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 1: right moment to do that. 1685 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 2: But is it because of the crowd, you know, is 1686 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 2: that why one of the Petrie obviously brought it up. 1687 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 2: But I will say there were spots even in that 1688 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 2: championship with Pantosia and Moreno, where I saw both guys. Now, 1689 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 2: maybe Pantosa's on his back, that's not necessarily a spot 1690 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 2: where you're going to take him off his back when 1691 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 2: he's standing up. But I saw both guys sort of 1692 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 2: catching breath. There wasn't a moment where I saw where 1693 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 2: Corey wasn't trying to actively improve his position and font 1694 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 2: wasn't desperately trying to get up, So to me, there 1695 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't I think it would have been a huge mistake. 1696 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 2: But Herzog did go over to Santagan at the end 1697 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 2: of round four, and I believe try to address something 1698 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,639 Speaker 2: almost like you know, I don't know exactly what he said, 1699 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 2: but I think he was trying to address it. I 1700 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 2: believe Dom said maybe in multiple rounds. But yeah, right, 1701 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 2: rev for the right situation. But I got to just 1702 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 2: say real quick about the bantamweight division. 1703 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:49,679 Speaker 1: John. 1704 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,640 Speaker 2: I believe Cody put in the chat that Corey did 1705 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 2: say it was torn and on his Instagram, So I 1706 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 2: believe it is torn. But Petrie, when you're talking about Cheetah, 1707 01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean Morab. 1708 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,640 Speaker 1: I saw Morab. He's getting close, he's healing up. So 1709 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 1: where we're going. 1710 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,560 Speaker 8: The reason I said that because I don't know what 1711 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 8: Aljo is gonna do. Right, is Aljo popping the forty five? 1712 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 3: For sure? 1713 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 8: Because if Aljo sticks at thirty five, Morob's on fighting him, right, 1714 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 8: So that's what I mean. If Aljo stays, and it's 1715 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 8: probably gonna be Cheeto, you know, but Aljo needs a 1716 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 8: break too, so maybe the timeline adds up where they 1717 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 8: throw Cory in there. Uh but yeah, I mean, for sure, 1718 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 8: if Aljo moves up, Morob's the guy. There's no one else. 1719 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 8: I maybe misspoke or whatever. That's one hundred. He's taking 1720 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,600 Speaker 8: pictures of cowboy hats. I mean, the dude's a g 1721 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 8: I wish I would have ran into him, but uh no, 1722 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:33,639 Speaker 8: Morob's the guy. 1723 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: But I was just referring to. 1724 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 8: Really wasn't sure Aljo situation, because there's been we're going 1725 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,839 Speaker 8: up to forty five and doing Volkanovski and then maybe retiring. 1726 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 8: Maybe we're sitting at thirty five. 1727 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 1: It's in flux. I wasn't sure what the Zach plan was. Yeah, 1728 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I get it. 1729 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Sean O'Malley could very well beat al Jamaine Sterling, 1730 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 2: even though he is not favored to do so. And 1731 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 2: part of the reason why al Jamaine Sterling's title defense 1732 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 2: is being expedited is because Sean O'Malley fought Pyotr Jan 1733 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 2: a long time ago to become the number one contender. 1734 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. 1735 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 2: But it's not out of the realm of possibility that 1736 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 2: the calendar works in favor of the healthiest guy, because 1737 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 2: if Corey Sandhagen is undergoing surgery this week, and that 1738 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 2: is the expectation, you know, he's not fighting in December. 1739 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 2: And if Sean Omalley knocks out Jemaine certainly out in 1740 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 2: round one, probably going to headline our pay per. 1741 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:22,799 Speaker 1: View in December. 1742 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,879 Speaker 2: Call it speculation if you will, all right, Brian Petrie 1743 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 2: on social media, you can find him at Brian Petrie 1744 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 2: MMA for my twin Bro. He's at Boston and he'll 1745 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 2: be back with a new episode of Remember the Show 1746 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 2: on the Antik Imploring Podcast YouTube channel this Thursday, and 1747 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,679 Speaker 2: of course BP back with us coming up this Thursday 1748 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 2: for a second edition of the Anticke Imploring Podcast. We'll 1749 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 2: look at Luke Endosanjo's BPJA. Appreciate you guys, get the 1750 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 2: fuck out of here. Thank you for fellows, nice boys. 1751 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 2: All right, dad, it's going to do it for today. 1752 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 2: Thanks everybody for listening and watching the Antik and Florian podcast. 1753 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,760 Speaker 2: We'll also get some thoughts from Ken Flow on at 1754 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 2: PFL four and some of the highlights, including a win 1755 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 2: for the Man the silver Back Fad Gene. We'll also 1756 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 2: get Kemflow's thoughts on Corey Sanhagen's big win over Rob font. 1757 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 2: We'll get predictions on the Sente Luke Jafel Dosanjos and 1758 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 2: the rest of the card coming up on August twelfth, 1759 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 2: and then we will also later this week start to 1760 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 2: begin our two week preview on UFC two ninety two, 1761 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 2: coming up August nineteenth in Boston, Massachusetts. And in closing, 1762 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 2: I just want to say, in reference to Raymond's line 1763 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 2: that it is the people that make the people. Thank 1764 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 2: you to our listeners and viewers. Thank you so much. Right, 1765 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,799 Speaker 2: I've been broadcasting for twenty years. I've never received an award. 1766 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't care to receive one, but this nomination for 1767 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 2: the Anakin Florian Podcast, I feel like is one of 1768 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 2: the biggest accomplishments of my entire broadcasting career because we 1769 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 2: built this thing from scratch and we have just tried 1770 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 2: to provide free MMA content to fans for the better 1771 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 2: part of a decade. And so whomever makes up this 1772 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 2: panel to acknowledge our show, I am just forever in 1773 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 2: gratitude to you people. Let's get out the vote. Let's 1774 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,600 Speaker 2: see if we can at least move the needle a 1775 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 2: little bit. And thanks to everybody for supporting and watching 1776 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 2: the show. Tell your friends subscribe to the DraftKings YouTube 1777 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 2: channel and if you like our videos, those will be 1778 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:04,599 Speaker 2: the ones. 1779 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 1: That primarily populate. 1780 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,799 Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody for checking out the Anakinform Podcast 1781 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 2: presented by DraftKings. Thanks to Brian Petrie, Jason Anak, Ray 1782 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,639 Speaker 2: Longo joining us today, our capable producer Cody Merrow as well, 1783 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,679 Speaker 2: and we'll be back with you folks in about seventy 1784 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 2: two hours or so with a complete preview of the 1785 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 2: fight Night on Deck coming up this weekend back at 1786 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 2: the Apex. Thank y'all for listening, for watching them, John 1787 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you Thursday. Until then, y'll later. 1788 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:19,680 Speaker 7: Does does does, Dounster does. 1789 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 3: Don. 1790 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 7: Does down Down. They won a barn of donous. They 1791 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,640 Speaker 7: want a bone of donounce.