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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck

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Speaker 2: with you? Buck? Where? First of all, where the heck

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Speaker 2: are you? Man? Where're at? Okay? So, DJ, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I want to travel to like just a little bit

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Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of hanging out.

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Speaker 3: Found a corridor that I could make sure I joined

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Speaker 3: you for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: All yeah, I mean, shoot, don't let a little tornado

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Speaker 1: someone who grew up on the East coast, who's lived

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Speaker 1: you've so, how would you rank them in terms of

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Speaker 1: how how nervous you get now that you've been You've

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Speaker 1: done hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes. What's the what's the most worrisome?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the tornadoes and the hurricanes they're more nervous.

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Speaker 3: You're nervous because you know they're coming. Earthquake you just

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Speaker 2: And you're like, oh okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean luckily we haven't been in a very destructive one.

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Speaker 1: It's a different I feel like, I feel like the

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Speaker 1: East Coasters are so scared of earthquakes, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: better than my house being literally sucked up into the sky.

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Speaker 3: Well, being back host going back and forth from here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems a lot more chaotic on the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: Earthquakes any says that. I'm like, dude, come on, like

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Speaker 1: this is way better. I mean, fires now fires, that's.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's a new phenomena. Yeah, that's particularly

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully hopefully you don't get sucked up into the

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Speaker 2: Where are you? Where are you at? Where are you at?

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Speaker 2: In your process? Right now? We have kind of our

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Speaker 1: We're a little over a month away, like where where's

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks at?

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Speaker 3: So it's funny because I have a new top five

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Speaker 3: I'm doing is the expansion. So this time I'm adding

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Speaker 1: Pre combined a nice Yeah, I've got a new mock

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Speaker 1: draft coming out, uh Tuesday, so as you're listening to this,

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Speaker 2: That'll come and get away.

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Speaker 3: And I just want you to know that mock Draft

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Speaker 3: Live starts on Tuesday. That's right, And we are Lance, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Is that on? It should be on. It should be

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Speaker 2: on NFL dot com, NFL dot com.

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Speaker 3: It is showing that it'll be on the Fast Channel,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So be on the lookout for that new mock

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Speaker 3: We look at history, history has not been kind to

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Speaker 3: At the end of the year, Roley Leonard played and

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Speaker 1: So if we're gonna go letter grade Daniel Jones Colts

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Speaker 3: Not given where they are, because everyone is underwin now,

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Speaker 3: They can competition between him and Penix. I think you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even I didn't even think about Justin

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Speaker 1: I think just getting a chance to be around Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a good move for everybody. It

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's got a chance to really really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, DJ, and I think his arm I want everyone

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Speaker 3: Opportunity to take a player that is talented as Kyler,

439
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Speaker 3: you have to roll the dice and say.

440
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Speaker 2: Hey, I can get it out of him. And where the.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings are because everyone kind of move past them

442
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Speaker 3: in that division, their defense should be good enough to

443
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Speaker 3: be able to get it back with Brian Flores. And

444
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Speaker 3: then offensively, it's just a matter of can they utilize

445
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Speaker 3: their playmate Because they couldn't utilize them last year, Calambra

446
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Speaker 3: should give them a chance to really maximize what they

447
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Speaker 3: could be on offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited for that one. Over all these fits,

449
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Speaker 1: that's the one I think I'm most excited about. Malik

450
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Speaker 1: Willis was the early one, three year, sixty seven point

451
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Speaker 1: five million bucks Miami. We've talked about it a little

452
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Speaker 1: bit earlier, but just when you put it in context

453
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Speaker 1: of all these moves.

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Speaker 2: How do you like it? Well?

455
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Speaker 3: The reason I like it from Miami standpoint is they

456
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Speaker 3: took a quarterback that.

457
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Speaker 2: They knew intimately two years with them.

458
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Speaker 3: John Eric Sullivan the general manager, Jeff Afley the head coach.

459
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Speaker 2: They know exactly who Malik Willis is.

460
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Speaker 3: I think they have a unique perspective, particularly Halflely being

461
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Speaker 3: a defensive coach that is facing Willis every day in

462
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Speaker 3: practice and seeing the strengths and weaknesses of his game.

463
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Speaker 3: I think it should be easier for them to build

464
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Speaker 3: an offense that accentuates his strengths, minimize the weaknesses, and

465
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Speaker 3: they're able to build a team around that.

466
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Speaker 2: Because they are in my mind.

467
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Speaker 3: Full rebuild mode, there should be some grace and some

468
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Speaker 3: patience as he grows into this role. Probably the best

469
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Speaker 3: fit that Elie Willis could have. I know there was

470
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Speaker 3: a lot of conversation about Arizona. To me, the rebuilds

471
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Speaker 3: are different in Arizona in Miami. To me, this is

472
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Speaker 3: one where he can grow and we're thinking three years

473
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Speaker 3: down the road as opposed to it. He needs to

474
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Speaker 3: be a right now player because I still don't know

475
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Speaker 3: if he's at Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also think I don't think the numbers are that

477
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Speaker 1: big where if this year it doesn't go great and you're,

478
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Speaker 1: you know, find yourself picking high up in the draft,

479
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Speaker 1: they could they could take a quarterback next year. I

480
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Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of a cake you eat

481
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Speaker 1: it too. It's kind of a free look on a

482
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Speaker 1: guy who's extremely talented and there is some familiarity there,

483
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Speaker 1: but he's still I played a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you.

485
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Speaker 1: Know, I think this is this to me is the

486
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Speaker 1: most unknown situation that we got to we got to

487
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Speaker 1: see and there's not a ton around him there in Miami,

488
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Speaker 1: and this roster's got a lot of holes. But it

489
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Speaker 1: feels like, to me, an expensive flyer. But there's no

490
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Speaker 1: reason why if you know, if this goes great, awesome,

491
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Speaker 1: you hit it and you can build around him next year.

492
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Speaker 1: If it doesn't go well, no harm, no foul, you

493
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Speaker 1: just take a quarterback next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think the pressure on him is probably the

496
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Speaker 3: pressure is different in Miami because I don't think they're

497
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Speaker 3: a great expectation for the Miami Dolphins next year. To me,

498
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Speaker 3: this is him coming in and really being able to

499
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Speaker 3: grow with the team.

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Speaker 2: And you're right, if they hit the number isn't astronomical.

501
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Speaker 3: So if he is absolutely terrible as a starter, like, hey,

502
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Speaker 3: we can consider what's going on in twenty twenty seven,

503
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Speaker 3: maybe make another move. But to me, these are two

504
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Speaker 3: guys that are operating on the same timeline. The team

505
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Speaker 3: is operating in the same timeline as mid league Willis,

506
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Speaker 3: and you hope that it just matches.

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins released by the foul because they're waiting on

509
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Speaker 1: that one. There's been a lot of rumblings about the Raiders.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, potentially he could go on there and they'll

511
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Speaker 1: give him the keys to the car, similar to Alex

512
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Speaker 1: Smith with Mahomes. You know, he comeing there and start

513
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Speaker 1: for hoefully for the entire year. And Mendoza, I think

514
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Speaker 1: Brady and their brain trust feels like that's the best

515
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Speaker 1: way to handle a young quarterback, even one, and that

516
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Speaker 1: you would think of Mendoza that could be able to

517
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Speaker 1: get out there, but it allows you to continue to

518
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Speaker 1: build up the team around him, allows him to really

519
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Speaker 1: really learn. That's his superpower anyways, is his brain to

520
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Speaker 1: be able to be able to learn this new offense

521
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Speaker 1: with Kubiak can get comfortable with it, maybe.

522
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Speaker 2: Even if it was half of a year.

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Speaker 1: But the question would be with Kirk Cousins feel confident

524
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Speaker 1: that they would actually give him that runway, that would

525
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Speaker 1: be an interesting fit. But that's one of the rumors

526
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Speaker 1: that's floating around out there.

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Speaker 3: Well, to me, DJ, that would be great and I

528
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Speaker 3: hadn't heard it, hadn't thought about that, But to me,

529
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Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot

530
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Speaker 3: of sense because Kirk Cousins would be coming back to

531
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Speaker 3: a system that he knows very very well. And once again,

532
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Speaker 3: in this system, the way the Kirk operates, they've really

533
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Speaker 3: done a good job of upgrading the defense to trying.

534
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Speaker 2: To put together the offense. They have a running game.

535
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Speaker 3: He should be able to manage it and kind of

536
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Speaker 3: play like he has always played throughout his career. If

537
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Speaker 3: he's able to do that and you are able to

538
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Speaker 3: give Fernando Mendoza a red shirt a half a red

539
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Speaker 3: shirt man, that would be great. It would also allow

540
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Speaker 3: Mendoza to see someone not saying that their games are

541
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Speaker 3: similar for someone who operates like that, so he can

542
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Speaker 3: begin to learn his own process to get ready to play.

543
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Speaker 3: Be a long time started in this league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it does make a lot of sense,

545
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Speaker 1: even for the first overall pick, just buying some time,

546
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Speaker 1: and it's the way he used to be done. He

547
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Speaker 1: used to be able to do that in the past. Gosh,

548
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Speaker 1: I want to say Carson Palmers because for two years,

549
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Speaker 1: yeah he said behind jacket, I think for two four

550
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Speaker 1: years before you got a chance to play, and he

551
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Speaker 1: was one overall pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they did it and the.

553
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Speaker 3: Look it worked out for him, kidding, have played well,

554
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Speaker 3: continue to play well, and then when Carson was ready

555
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Speaker 3: he took over.

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Speaker 2: That would be that one.

557
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a unique situation, but that is

558
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Speaker 3: the way that it was done for a long time,

559
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Speaker 3: and we have seen for a long for a.

560
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Speaker 2: Lot of guys.

561
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Speaker 3: When you have an opportunity to sit and learn and

562
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Speaker 3: slowly get introduced into the league, you have a Tennessee

563
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Speaker 3: the fair better.

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Speaker 2: This would be a great.

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Speaker 3: Situation because Tom Brady has been so vocal about the

566
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Speaker 3: development process. I think they're going to do their best

567
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Speaker 3: to get and those are the best chance to succeed

568
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Speaker 3: before he takes the field.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: All right, I wanted to get on one more guy. Well,

571
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Speaker 1: first of all, we're waiting to see what happens with

572
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. Pittsburgh. Does he play, does he not play?

573
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Speaker 1: Like that's TBD there at the quarterback position.

574
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Speaker 2: I know that.

575
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Speaker 1: And then we also had Gino Smith who got traded

576
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Speaker 1: to the Jets, so he gets he goes back there

577
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Speaker 1: a little homecoming for him. The quarterback storyline, I'm keeping

578
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Speaker 1: an eye on that. Nobody's talking about at all. And

579
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Speaker 1: I know the Niners have said they want to keep

580
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Speaker 1: mac Jones, but I'd be curious, you know, as we

581
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Speaker 1: go through the rest of the offseason and some teams

582
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Speaker 1: still have needs. There weighing mac Jones trade possibilities versus

583
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Speaker 1: what you could get in this draft, I think is

584
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Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating discussion and maybe the Niners

585
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Speaker 1: change their tune on that.

586
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. So let's talk about the nine er first.

587
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Speaker 3: The reason why the or not is may be reluctant

588
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Speaker 3: or maybe they play possible when it comes to mac

589
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: Jones is because man, mac Jones had to play a

590
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: lot of games with them last year because of Rock

591
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Speaker 3: Perdy's injuries, and part of because mac Jones was able

592
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Speaker 3: to play so well, it allowed them to stay in

593
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Speaker 3: the hunt. I mean, they were fighting for the number

594
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Speaker 3: one seed up until the last week of the season,

595
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Speaker 3: and mac Jones had a big part of that.

596
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Speaker 2: Secondly, when it.

597
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Speaker 3: Comes to mac Jones, I know Mac Jones wants to

598
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Speaker 3: be a starting quarterback, but man, you want to be

599
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Speaker 3: a starting quarterback in the right situation. Not that he's

600
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Speaker 3: getting to the last bite of the apple, but close

601
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Speaker 3: as a starting quarterback, he wants to give himself the

602
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Speaker 3: best chance. And when I surveyed the landscape, I don't

603
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Speaker 3: know if any of the teams that are looking for

604
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Speaker 3: a quarterback are the type of teams that can let

605
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Speaker 3: him settle in and be a long term solution in

606
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Speaker 3: that spot. But as we do get close and as

607
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Speaker 3: we begin to see these pro days, I know we

608
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Speaker 3: have Mendoza coming up April one, but these other quarterbacks

609
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Speaker 3: DJ when they look at these other guys, because I

610
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Speaker 3: know Todd Simpson is the presumptive number two, but the

611
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Speaker 3: other guys, I don't know how that's gonna play out.

612
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: The phone could start buzzing in San Francisco when we

613
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Speaker 3: get down to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm curious about it. Man.

615
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Speaker 1: So look, the the place where I could see mac

616
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Speaker 1: Jones fitting is inside the division in Arizona, and I

617
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Speaker 1: don't think I don't. I don't think they're gonna while

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Speaker 1: we give.

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Speaker 2: Them quarterback, why we we help a division rival.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't see that being I can't see there

621
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Speaker 3: being a good thing now.

622
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Speaker 1: But it is interesting to see what what the future

623
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Speaker 1: looks like for him. All right, this was This is

624
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Speaker 1: a fun one again. We've got mock drafts, we've got

625
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Speaker 1: top fives that's coming out this week, so lots of

626
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Speaker 1: draft content. But uh, I did want to kind of

627
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Speaker 1: kick around the changing landscape of the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 3: But man, look, any time we get a chance to

630
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Speaker 3: talk about quarterback can be a lot of interest. And

631
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Speaker 3: this year is unlike any year that we've seen, where

632
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Speaker 3: the draft is bearing of starting quarterbacks and we play

633
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Speaker 3: in all these musical chairs. It's gonna be funny to

634
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Speaker 3: see what this looks like as we get to and

635
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Speaker 3: through the draft, as people settle in on who's gonna

636
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Speaker 3: be the qb ones and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interest to see how it all shakes out.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Hanging with us. You can find us again right here

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Speaker 1: on move sticks.

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