1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: No team other team wants to hear the Yankees crying 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: for exact specially teams in small market situations like I 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: don't know, Cleveland, Tampa Bay. Welcome everyone to the Thursday 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: We have a ton to talk about today, including perhaps 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: some prom horror. 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Stories, at least from my perspective. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: But there's one topic baseball related that I want to 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: get into. I wrote about it today and I'm particularly 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: keen on it this time of year. Yeah. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Ken, great to see you. Good afternoon, Good morning to 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: those of us joining on the West coast. Yes, we 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: will talk prom proposals. You had a horror story. I 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: had a bit of a good situation, but we'll talk 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: about that later in the show. Let's get to the 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: lead first. Don't forget to get your questions in for 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Ken on Grill and Ken, But can we talk about 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: the coaching carousel when it comes to the NFL, that's 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: only seventeen games that you have to coach if you will. 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: What about though, the hesitants of trading or changing managers 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: in mid season alta. 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: This is a relatively new development in the game. I 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: go back to nineteen ninety one. I tell the story often. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: If you're sick of it, I apologize. But my son 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Sam was born and the first three days of his 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: life a manager was fired. Royals John Wathin, Cubs, Don 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: zimmer Orioles, Frank Robinson. And that's why in Baltimore I 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: had to spring to attention. So back then, at this 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: time of year, and really extending into the two thousands two, 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: about a quarter of the way through the season, teams 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: would start to get itchy. But since twenty eighteen, there 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: have been only four in season dismissals, and they all 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: took place in twenty twenty two. So really it's almost 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: a thing of the past for managers to be fired 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: in season. And the reasons are many, but the biggest 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: one is that in this age of collaboration, that's the 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: big buzzword that executives like to use. The manager is 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: essentially an extension of the front office. And if you're 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: going to fire your manager, you're basically indicting your own 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: self as a head of base operations. So I don't 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: know if anybody that's in particular trouble right now, Anna, 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: but of course we can discuss some potential. 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: Candidates, certainly, and you mentioned the four in twenty twenty two. 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: I didn't realize there had been that many ken But 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: Phillies fired Joe Girardi, they hired Rob Thompson, the Angels 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: fired Joe Madden, hired Phil Nevin, the Rangers got rid 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: of Chris Woodward, of course, hired Tony Beasley, and then 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: went on to Bruce Bochi. Blue Jays firing Charlie Montoyo 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: and then hiring John Schneider. And that brings up a 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: particular case. Is John Schneider now with the Toronto Blue Jays? 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: Is he on the hot seat? I think everybody is 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: surprised at the lack of production and success the Blue 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: Jays are having well. 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: In what I wrote today, Alana, I described the Blue 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: Jays as the most interesting case right now. As you mentioned, 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: they brought John Schneider in to replace Charlie Montoyo less 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: than two years ago. 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: So if you're going to fire. 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Another manager, your hand picked guy from inside the organization's 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: John Schneider, then who does that point back on points 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: back on team president Mark Shapiro and on general manager 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Ross Atkins, And it speaks to at that point, a 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: failure by those guys to get this thing right. So 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays are a disappointment, there's no question about 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: it right now. But at the same time, I don't 66 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: know that I see them making a move with Schneider 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: because it's going to go right back on Shapiro and Atkins. 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: And how does it go from manager of the Year 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: one year and then we're going to go ahead and 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: boot you right out in the middle of the season, 71 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: you know, the following year. It seems like it's such 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: a fickle position, but nobody wants to take the blame 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: for it, so they pass the buck. 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: It is a fickle position. And one thing I want 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: to make clear, firing the manager is never a pleasant thing. 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: No one ever wants to see that. 77 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I know fans call for people's heads from time to time, 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: but let's face it, when a manager is fired, that's 79 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: an organizational failure. So from that perspective, what is going 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: on is sort of healthy that the front offices to 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: some degree or taking accountability for the teams that they've 82 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: vented the managers with. And yet at the same time, 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: it is quite unusual some of the things that take 84 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: place now Ali marmal good example, he gets extended in 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: the final year of his contract and at a point 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: where they were coming off a last place finish. The 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: first last place finished is nineteen ninety and it was. 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: Almost as if he was too safe. 89 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Now they're playing better. Now they've won eight of ten. 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that they need to fire their manager, 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: but it seems that teams are increasingly reluctant to do 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: this in the middle of a season. End of a 93 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: season different story. We have eight new managers this year, 94 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: but in the middle of a season it seems like 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: teams see it as too disruptive. 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cardinals' way has become proculiar over the last 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: couple of years. Remember in twenty eighteen they fired Mike Masini, 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: they hire Mike Schultz, and then, by the way, they 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: fire him for Oliver Marmole because there was a difference 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: in philosophy. Don't forget for those of you listening and 101 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: watching us here on a fair territory to load your 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: questions into the chat for Ken as we get to 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: Grill and Ken in just a moment, let's talk about 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: the White Hot Royals. And I tell you what, Ken, 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: this is a team that I think many are surprised by, 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: particularly their success in the al Central, and it starts 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: with great pitching. 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite stories of the year. 109 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Alana, and I'll tell you why the Royals spent money 110 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: this offseason. They spent seventy seven million combined, in particular 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: on Seth Lugo and Michael Walker because they wanted to 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: bring some stability to their rotation. They've had years and 113 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: years of young starters getting shelled and they needed some 114 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: better examples at the top. So here come Lugo and Waka. 115 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Lugo leads the American League in the RA one. 116 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: Point seventy nine. 117 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: Walka hasn't been as good. 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: He's at four point four or five. 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: But I spoke with Brady Singer yesterday and he said, yes, 120 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: these guys have had a huge impact on how we 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: go about our business. We see how they study, how 122 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: they attack hitters, how they go deep into games, and 123 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: we learn from it. So my point is, yes, that 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: spending of money can sometimes backfire. We know that, but 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: what often gets lost era of granular statistical breakdowns are 126 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: the impacts that are intangible. And Waka and Lugo, in 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: addition to being tangible in what they're giving the Royals. 128 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: There's an intangible there that is really paying off for 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: that team as well. 130 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: And talk about tangible because Seth Lugo JJ Piccolo signed 131 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: him Ken to that three year, forty five million dollar 132 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: contract in December, so he looks like a genius there. 133 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: Piccolo also brings back Michael Waka on that two year, 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: twenty five million dollar contract. But you want to talk 135 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: about tangible, look at the fact that the Royals were 136 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: thirty two and nineteen with a plus seventy two run 137 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: differential this season through fifty one games. Last year, Kenny, 138 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: they were fifteen and thirty six with a negative seventy 139 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: three run differential. This team has pitching, they're very good 140 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: with the glove, and they have the offense too. I 141 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: like the fact that they signed Bobby Witt Junior to 142 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: that extension because it makes them have even more to 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: look forward to. By the way, Salvador Perez Benjamin Button Ken, 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: he's going backwards thirty four years old. He's hitting like 145 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: he's twenty four years old. All right, Omeeil Cruz, we 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 3: know about ze Peretti's been this game a long time. 147 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Oneal Cruz, if you didn't know him before Ken, you 148 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: know about him now. What do you love about this 149 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: young star? 150 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I love the raw ability and we saw it on 151 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: display Tuesday night when he hit the two hardest balls 152 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: all year, and it was fascinating to watch. And in addition, 153 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: now with stat cast the measuring exit velocity, we had 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: tangible measures of what he did. And while he is 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: not yet a polished player defensively or offensively, the fact 156 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: that this kid has this kind of raw ability, you'll 157 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: see it right here. This ball into the corner. This was, 158 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I believe a single, and if he had not hitt 159 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: it his heart, it might have been a double. So 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I guess he hurt himself a little bit there. But 161 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: what I wrote about was I'm not someone who is 162 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: totally into the church of exit velocity, but onneal Cruz 163 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: practically made me a convert. 164 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to get into exit VLO coming up 165 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: a little bit later in our Dude and Dork segment 166 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: segment don't forget to get your questions, and but meant 167 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: to elaborate on your point in Tuesdays when when Ken 168 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: he had three hits of one hundred and fifteen miles 169 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: per hour as far as exit velocity, he broke his 170 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: own record at first in the stack cast tracking area. 171 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: Two of them were one hundred and twenty miles per hour, 172 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: which had also never been done before. 173 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: He did it himself. 174 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: He was breaking his own records. Listen, it's not the 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: only tangible, it's not the only metric to pay attention to, 176 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: but it is fun and we are allowed to have 177 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: a good. 178 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: Time in this game. 179 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: O'Neil Cruz is again a bright spot for the Pittsburgh Pirates, 180 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: but he's not the only one. Kenny, they have Jared Jones, 181 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: and of course they have a guy by the name 182 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: of Paul Skens. There's a lot to be looking forward 183 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: to in the Steal City. 184 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Skean's making his third start today. In fact, Jared 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: Jones has been a revelation. And listen, they've got a 186 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: ways to go yet, they're not quite there, and they've 187 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: had some developmental issues with some of their hitters. Okay, 188 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: but yes, these are interesting things developing in Pittsburgh. And 189 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: I believe I said this on foul Territory the other day. 190 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: I want to see next from them is taking a 191 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: step forward to support these younger players in the way 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: kind of like the Royals have. 193 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: Like we were just talking about. 194 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: At the deadline, this team is probably going to be 195 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: in some form of wild card contention because who isn't 196 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: in this expanded postseason era. And at that point, what 197 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: are you gonna do. You're gonna take another step back 198 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and look to tomorrow and take it easy, or do you 199 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: maybe try to go for it when you have these 200 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: two young pitchers doing what they're doing. 201 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: I know you can't push them too hard, we all 202 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: get that. 203 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, at some point Pittsburgh Pirates 204 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: need to start acting like a team. 205 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: That really wants to win, not. 206 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: A developing team, not a team rebuilding constantly, a team 207 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: that is going for it. 208 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, circling back to what 209 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: we were talking about at the beginning of the lead, 210 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: is Derek Shelton on the hot seat or does he 211 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: get a pass? Because the future seems to be bright 212 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. 213 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Interesting question a lota. I didn't mention him in my 214 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: article today and some Pittsburgh fans like, oh where's our guy? Hey? 215 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: In my view, their future in the future of the 216 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: manager rests on what happens with Ben Sherrington. Who is 217 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the GM who is in the middle of an important year. 218 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: The owner has basically said, Bob Nutting, we need to 219 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: get going, we need to start winning now. He doesn't 220 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: do things to support that necessarily with regard to spending money, 221 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: but he is I wouldn't say put pressure on Sherrington, 222 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: but it's clear that they need to start making progress. 223 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: And Shelton's future, Alana, to me, is tied to Sherrington's future. 224 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: If Sherrington goes, Shelton likely goes too. 225 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: Which is exactly what you're talking about. 226 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: They're all kind of tied together, and the manager is 227 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: an extension of that front office. We'll see what happens 228 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: there in Pittsburgh. All right, we make our way from 229 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: the lead now to Grill and Ken again. Get those 230 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: questions into the Chat's great opportunity to talk to Ken Rosenthala, 231 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: man that's been around the game for a very long time. 232 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: It starts with Bryce Harper. I am obsessed with this kid. 233 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: I just think he's not even a kid anymore. To me, 234 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: he's a kid, but I just love everything that Bryce 235 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: Harper means to the game. Ken, not only what he 236 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: does on the field, he's a future Hall of Famer 237 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: in my opinion. Obviously he's an MVP a couple of 238 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: times over, but what he does off the field too. 239 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 3: So we have a question for you and Grill and 240 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: Ken in regards to Bryce Harper. 241 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: And this is so awesome. 242 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: Look at this. So this is Bryce and his friend Jake, 243 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: I guess, and Jake wanted to ask Julia to go 244 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: to PROMPT. So Bryce Harper goes with Jake to Julia's 245 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: front door. Julia about has a heart attack when she 246 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: sees Bryce Harper there. Then he says, well, will you 247 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: go with him? And she says yes, But then she 248 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: hugs Harper first, which I think is the funniest part 249 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: about it all. Then she hugs Jake, and then Julia's 250 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: dad comes out and shakes Harper's hand. This was just 251 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: a hole. 252 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: It was so awesome. 253 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm with you a lot. I loved it. And you 254 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: know what it's said to me. 255 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper is not living in some gatey community somewhere. 256 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: This guy is living in Haddonfield, New Jersey, apparently in 257 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: the middle of a community. And this kid knocked on 258 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: his door and boom, there's Bryce helping him out with 259 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: prom All right, what is. 260 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: How did you ask your prom dates to prom? 261 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: Did you have some sort of superstar in your era 262 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: walk up to their door and say, Hey. 263 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: Would you go to a prom with Ken? How'd you 264 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: do it? 265 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: A lot? My prom efforts were weak and weaker, And 266 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: let's face it, back then in high school you think 267 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm short, Now I was even shorter than I actually 268 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: had a growth spurt in college. 269 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: I glasses. 270 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: I was nothing to look at. 271 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: I was nothing to hang with. And the woman I. 272 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Asked actually was a girl then, of course, was kind 273 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: of a childhood friend, and she basically said, I'm not 274 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: going to prom with you. 275 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: So there was no problem for me. 276 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: But I think you have a little bit more of 277 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: a good story. 278 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: You didn't go to prom. 279 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Didn't go to prom. 280 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: But it was a reuse to me because I was 281 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: terrified of the whole thing. 282 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, you got the better end of 283 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: the deal. I bet little Missy Sue says, Oh, man, 284 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: look at Ken Rosenthal. 285 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: Now I should have gone to wrong. 286 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: That's what wonderful is Man. I really missed out. Yeah, 287 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: I was prom queen. But you know what, that's fine. 288 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: You know it's fine, Ken, I you know it's they 289 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: needed to pick somebody. You had to be academically eligible 290 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: to be on the court, if you will. I had 291 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: good grades. I was a good student, and they're like, yeah, sure, 292 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: we'll give it to Rizzo. So yes, I was Promptueen. 293 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 3: I was also homecoming queen. Uh you know every year 294 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: that I was in Yeah, you know, I don't don't 295 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: get it twisted, Ken, I'm you know, it's not just 296 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: a not just a pretty face. I had the academics 297 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: to him. I have, yes, prom you know what. But 298 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 3: the Philly fanatic asked me on a date. So I'm 299 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: not sure that Bryce Harper still has the best you 300 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: know story going to phil You know, in Philadelphia, the 301 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: fanatic asked me out and then dumped water all over 302 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: me on accident, and it was not a good scene. 303 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: But if Bryce Harper comes to your kid's door, let 304 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: your daughter go to prom with that young man. Because 305 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: all right, coming up and a grill and Ken, what 306 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: do we have? This is a question regarding Yadier Molina, 307 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: which I love this. I always thought Yadi was going 308 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: to be a manager. So Wesley Allen wants to ask 309 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: you Ken, thinking of managers and coaching. Yadi was reportedly 310 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: added to the Cardinals' coaching staff, but he hasn't been 311 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: with the team even in spring training. Any insight into 312 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: what Yachti. 313 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: Is doing, Wesley, I actually don't know, And you're right. 314 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: He was talked. 315 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: About in this regard as a member of the staff 316 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen for whatever reason. He obviously is 317 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: a candidate to manage that team in the future. You 318 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: can almost predict what's going to happen. At the same time, 319 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: you never know, and you never know how these things 320 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: turn out. Skip Schumacher could be available at the end 321 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: of the season, and if the Cardinals make a move 322 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: with marmal and I'm not saying they will and I'm 323 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: not saying they should, who knows how this season will 324 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: play out, then Skip Schumacher, longtime Cardinal, could enter the equation. 325 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: He was a bench coach last year for them or 326 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: two years ago. 327 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: And Yadier Molina. 328 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Obviously could be a guy they talk about as well. 329 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: And obviously a lot of catchers do become managers. 330 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: It seems like a pretty seamless transition, but it's not 331 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: a guarantee Ken that just because you played the game 332 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: in that position would make you a good manager. 333 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: Do you think Yachti would be. 334 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: I do, but there is a caveat here. 335 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: There are actually two caveats. 336 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: One first time managers. 337 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: It's never necessarily easy. There's a transition period that most 338 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: go through. Some do it pretty seamlessly and great, but. 339 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: It's not an easy job, right. 340 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: The other thing is great players who become managers, and 341 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: there's not a tremendous history of success there. 342 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: And I think about Frank Robinson. 343 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: I covered him and he was a good manager in 344 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: many ways, but it wasn't this huge success. And the 345 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: problem for great players as coaches or managers is often 346 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: they have a hard time with players who can't do 347 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: what they once did. And when you're a great player, 348 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: of course you're in a rare air. Actually, any major 349 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: leaguer is in a rarefied air, but for the great 350 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: ones it's even more difficult. That said, Yachti's knowledge is ridiculous. 351 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: He knows the game inside and out. 352 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Of course, could he succeed as a manager. I believe 353 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: he could. 354 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: Do you think that the great players have a hard 355 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: time managing because the game came easier to them than 356 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: it does to others, at least seemingly it comes easier 357 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: to them that not everybody has the same skill sets 358 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: that they do, so they can't understand why these players 359 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: can't do what they used to be able to. 360 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: A lot of That's a great point, and that is 361 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: part of it. And often we see players who were 362 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: not great players succeed as managers. I'm looking at Steven 363 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Vote right now. There's a good example. 364 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Guy scrap his way. 365 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Yes, you can name a bunch of them. Bud Black 366 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: was a good picter, not a great pitcher. He was fine, 367 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Bob Melvin backup catcher. I can go down the list 368 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: and those players that we're talking about of the opposite 369 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: of what you're saying. These guys are players who learned 370 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: well how difficult the game was, how difficult it was 371 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: to succeed on a nightly basis, and they have a 372 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: greater appreciation, perhaps than great players do in the same circumstance. 373 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: All right, make it our way through Grill and Ken 374 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: here on fair territory. The next question Ken is in 375 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: regards to roster moves and shakeups based on just the 376 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: amount of pitchers injuries. So Sebastian wants to know, how 377 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 3: do you feel about limiting the number of roster moves 378 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: per month, so teams can't move relievers up and down. 379 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 3: It might put pressure on teams to have the starters 380 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: go longer. Interesting interesting thought from Sebastian. Thanks for being 381 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: a part of the show. 382 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Yes, Sebastian, very interesting thought. And it goes back to 383 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: that three story series Jason Stark and I wrote about 384 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: a week ago. I guess it was detailing the demise 385 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: of starting pitching and how to bring it back. And 386 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: this is one option that you limit the options of 387 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: players going up and down and you force teams to 388 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: keep them on the rosters. There are implications with this, 389 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: two unintended consequences that result. But these are the kinds 390 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: of things that need to be discussed. Roster limits, U rules, 391 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. 392 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: Because it is my. 393 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Fervent belief and it's Jason's, and I believe it's yours Allana, 394 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: that starting pitching needs to be revived, that we need 395 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: to get back to having great matchups on a seemilarly 396 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: nightly basis that can bring fans into the park and 397 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: capture their imagination. 398 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: Here's one for you, Ken Louise Heal going up against 399 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: Luis Castillo today. I mean We were talking about this 400 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: in our production meeting earlier with the Mariners and the Yankees. 401 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pitching matchup you get excited about. 402 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: We don't have a lot of those anymore. 403 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: No question, And that's exactly what we're talking about, right. 404 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: That's a reason to turn on the TV today. I 405 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: think that game actually already is in progress as in 406 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: as is Paul Schemes his third start in progress as well. 407 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: So these are guys you want to watch. And nothing 408 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: against the opener strategy, nothing against the occasional bullpen games, 409 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: which teams view as necessities toward winning, and that's what 410 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: they're always going to point toward whatever we can do 411 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: to win. But just as with the pace of play 412 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: and with the shifts, things had to be done to 413 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: enhance the entertainment value of the sport. This is exactly 414 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, Luis Hill versus Luis Castile. What 415 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: you just mentioned is entertainment and that's what the sport 416 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: needs to get back to. 417 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a really quick question. It's a 418 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: curve ball that has nothing to do with that. But 419 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 3: when Garrett Cole comes back and he says that June 420 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: is a possibility. Who's the odd man out in the 421 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: Yankees rotation because right now they're all pitching pretty well, 422 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: and I don't see Garrett Cole being told he can't, 423 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: you know, come back when he wants to. But who 424 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: goes to the bullpen or do they go to a 425 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: six man a. 426 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Lot of how many times have you heard from your 427 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: reporting days, these things have a way of working themselves out. 428 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: We hear it all the time. 429 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: And in this case, let's assume everyone stays healthy. Let's 430 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: hope everyone stays healthy. 431 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: You don't want to see any picture hurt. 432 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: If that's the case. My guess is they back off 433 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: of heel. And the reason they do that is he's 434 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: coming off Tommy John in twenty twenty two. This is 435 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: his first full season, and since he's not necessarily on 436 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: an inning's limit. 437 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: But you don't want to go crazy with him either. 438 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: You want him as potentially a huge factor in October. 439 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: So that to me is the decision they would make. 440 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: It's the easiest decision, and often teams take the easiest 441 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: path in a situation like this. So no disrespect to 442 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Luis Hill, who has been brilliant, but that to me 443 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: would be the way to go. 444 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. 445 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: All right. 446 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: One more question here and Gorilla and Kennon. It has 447 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: to do with the Astros. Another surprise. They're still struggling, Kenny, 448 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: So where do they go from here? Jay wants to 449 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: know what do the Astros do now that they've gotten 450 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: it going a little bit, but they're still not playing 451 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: their best baseball? Do you let the resumes speak for themselves? 452 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: Where do you go from here? 453 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: You do exactly that. 454 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: And earlier this season when they were really struggling, I 455 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: was wondering if it was ever going to turn around, 456 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: as people do in circumstances like that. But they have 457 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: played better. 458 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: They just did lose two or three to the Angels. 459 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: Not great. I still expect them to be really good. 460 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: And keep in mind they're having issues with their starting pitching. 461 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: That is going to get better as the season progresses. 462 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: Guys are going to get healthier. Mccullors and Luis Garcia, 463 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: these people will be returning to the rotation. It will 464 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: help them. They'll be able to cycle guys in and out. 465 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention Urkiti. He's also been coming back. 466 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: So all of that should help stabilize them from a 467 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: pitching standpoint offensively, Jose Brau seems to be a missing person. 468 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: He's still in Florida trying to get himself back going, 469 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: and Kyle Tucker is having an MVP year. They need 470 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: to get better in certain ways. Jeremy Panya also has 471 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: been great. Yes, they need more offensive consistency, no question, 472 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: but you still have to like them being there at 473 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: the end in some fashion, maybe not as the division champion, 474 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: but certainly in the wildcard race. 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Now 512 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: ken for dude and dork of the week. 513 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: Who's your dude, My dude, is you Darvish? 514 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't know that his achievement two hundred 515 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: wins combined in the major leagues and in Japan got 516 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: enough attention. 517 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: I know it was on Sunday Night Baseball. 518 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: But this was a big deal, really a big deal 519 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: in Japan, and he is now third on the list 520 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: of combined wins MLB in Japan, behind Corota. 521 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: Two three and No. At two o one. 522 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: So you Darvish, dude of the week. 523 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: I know, and he I tell you the consecutive scoreless innings. 524 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: He's also kind of Benjamin Button. We talked about, you know, 525 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: Salvi Perez, and he looks just as good as he 526 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: did back in the day. My dude is Josiah Gray. Congratulations. 527 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: Nine years after he started his college endeavor, he finished. 528 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: He graduated recently Summa cumlaube. So congratulations to Jojo Gray. 529 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 3: Very proud of you. And of course an honorable mention 530 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: goes to Bryce Harper, who is an absolute stud. Asking 531 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 3: Julia to prom for Jake. What about your dork of 532 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: the week. 533 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Well, sadly, Alana, this one was easy and it's going 534 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: to Yankees' owner house Timebrenners. Not for his comments about 535 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: Juan Soto wanting to resign him. Those were good, that's 536 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: what he should be saying. But then he came back 537 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: this week and said, listen, our payroll is not sustainable 538 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: and wouldn't be sustainable for a lot of ownership groups, 539 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: while still saying that he wants to resign Sodo. Okay, 540 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: I had three problems with this one. The point is 541 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: debatable that the Yankees can't sustain this. If we want 542 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: proof that the Yankees can't sustain this, let's open their 543 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: books and let's take a look at that's not happening. 544 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: Number two on this, it does sound like how Steinbrunner 545 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He 546 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: wants to sign Juan Soto for probably five hundred million plus, 547 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: Buddy's saying their payroll is not sustainable. 548 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: I know they have money coming off. 549 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: And there are some flexibility things built in. But ah, 550 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: and then finally, and this might be the most objectionable 551 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: part in my opinion, No, team. Other team wants to 552 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: hear the Yankees crying poor, especially teams in small market 553 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: situations like I don't know, Cleveland, Tampa Bay, Oakland, Kansas City. 554 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Name a team that is not as wealthy as the Yankees, 555 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: which is pretty much every team, and I don't want 556 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: to hear the Yankees saying we can't sustain their payroll. 557 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: The Yankees spend a lot of money, Yes they do, 558 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: and they should be spending a lot of money. 559 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: They're the New York Yankees. They make a lot of money. 560 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: They are not in the same financial ratosphere as any 561 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: of those low revenue teams that I just mentioned. 562 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: No question about it. 563 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: Nobody feels sorry for the Yankees or the Dodgers when 564 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 3: it comes to payro. All right, my dork of the 565 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: week has to do with a fellow broadcaster on another network. 566 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen first. 567 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: So let me ask you something. The velo the exit vlo. 568 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: Does it mean he's a better hitter than Tony Gwinn? 569 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 5: So what, he's a two sixty hitter? So why do 570 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 5: I give a damn about the exit v loo? 571 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 6: I don't. 572 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 8: Not only do I not go, oh wow, it has 573 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 8: started the ruination of watching sports for me, numbers like 574 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 8: this repeatedly and put up on the screen day in 575 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 8: day out. It has ruined it because people aren't concentrating 576 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 8: on the fact that he is two sixty instead of 577 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 8: three point thirty. 578 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 2: They're concentrating on exit v low. 579 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, though, like, why can't we just have 580 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: a good time with u Ken. I don't think you 581 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: have to focus on just the exit velo. No one's 582 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: saying O'Neil Cruz is Tony Gwinn. No one should be 583 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: saying anybody is Tony Gwinn. But let's just use it 584 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: as a piece of information. Another thing that is fun 585 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: about this game now. JJ Cooper, who was the editor 586 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: of Baseball America, had such a great point. It was like, oh, 587 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: I liked watching NASCAR until I found out how fast 588 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 3: the cars were going. What's the harm in just discussing 589 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: exit vila. We're not saying that Omiil Cruz shouldn't have 590 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: a better batting average. We're just saying the balls that 591 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: he hits are really, really fricking hard. 592 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: There is no harm a lot, and we all know 593 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: as people who follow the game closely, and even for 594 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: those who don't follow the game closely. John Carlos Stanton 595 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 1: is the king of statcast right, mister exit Velo, and 596 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: half the Yankee fan base, maybe three quarters, maybe four 597 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: fits can't stand John Carlos Stanton. He frustrates them endlessly. 598 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: So there are separate skills we're talking about here, and no, 599 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: if you're grade at exit Vilo, it doesn't make you 600 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: a great hitter. But in the case of Cruise, in 601 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: this one particular event. 602 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 9: As we discussed before earlier, that was cool and it 603 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 9: was cool to know how hard he hit those balls, 604 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 9: and it was really kind of a breathtaking night if 605 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 9: you were watching the game and seeing what this kid 606 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 9: was accomplishing. 607 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to take away from the other 608 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: statistics just to focus on this. It's just part of 609 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: the game now. It's something that we have as a measurement, 610 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: as a tangible piece of evidence. There it is. There's 611 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: no need to make this into a negative thing. It's 612 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: not a negative thing. It's pretty cool. Stanton just hit 613 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: one off of one four point fifty off of Luis Castillo. Now, 614 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: Derek is our super or is our social media guru. 615 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: He's a massive Yankee fan. Gean Carlo apparently just hit 616 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: one to the moon off of Louis Castillo. So there 617 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: you have it, all right. 618 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: That they like that. 619 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: Yes, when he actually plays, though, Ken he's not always. 620 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: In that lineup. 621 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: He's not always party enough to play. 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Well that's gonna do it for Ken 639 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: Rosenthal and myself here on Fair Territory. Thanks to everyone 640 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: for watching and listening. Don't forget to subscribe on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, 641 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts. Fair Territory is done for 642 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: the day, but Foul Territory is next, followed by Dodgers 643 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: Territory at three pm Eastern with myself and Clint Pacis 644 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: and Ken have a great day, have a great weekend. 645 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: You do a lot on that and everyone have a 646 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: great problem. 647 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is prime season.