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Is this problem we're going to 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.040 tell We're going to dive into that barely deep here. Then, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.920 of course after I'll do a little few more q 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.120 and as, and I'll have my big college football preview 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.960 going into the weekend. But I want to start, obviously 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:59.480 with this question, and look, the world of independent media, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.960 the world of content creators. Right, we are in an 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.800 Epstein frenzy, and it's a deserved sort of feeding frenzy 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.640 of the moment because there's new material out there, right 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.640 there's new emails, there's new shock emails, and the and 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.240 the swearing in of Adelita Garalva, the Arizona congresswoman who's 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.640 been waiting to be sworn in for over a month 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.720 now because of the Speaker Johnson's bizarre decision to keep 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.040 the House out. I really think he really did a 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.240 disservice to his own party and his own members here, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.000 because it's a pretty indefensible you know, the lack of 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.800 the lack of action, the lack of anything from the 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.320 House Republicans, and they're running. They're on the ballot before 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.239 anybody else, is right, it's the House Republicans are all 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.360 on the ballot come in November twenty twenty six. And 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.480 I think Mike Johnson has put his own members in 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:49.040 a terrible situation. Obviously, he made a it feels like 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.040 he made a decision that the White House has him 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.960 to do, not what was in the best interests of 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.640 the House Republicans, and you know, these in some ways, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.720 this controversy over the Epstein file is the same thing. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.760 Mike Johnson is consistently doing what's in the best interest 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.240 of the White House, which is a branch of government. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.880 He does not lead, nor is he a member of 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.960 He is actually the leader of the legislative branch. The 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.480 Speaker of the House is essentially the de facto leader 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.160 of that branch of government. Same way John Roberts as 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.480 the Chief Justice, is essentially the current leader of the 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:27.959 judiciary branch, and he is essentially outsourced decision making on 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.480 what Congress should do to the White House. You get it. Politically, 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.320 I understand why they feel like they have to, and 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.320 we live in this jerrymandered world where primary voters matter 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.240 more than the rest of us. But I will tell you, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.960 I think what Mike Johnson has done with House Republicans 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.080 is so damaging, and I do not think they fully 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:52.560 appreciate how much damage he's His decisions here again all 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.480 were only to the benefit of one person, Donald Trump. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.840 None of it to the benefit of anybody that's actually 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.280 going to be on the ballot, namely every single one 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:07.200 of those House Republicans that he is charged with leading. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.640 So the discharge position is here. It's interesting that the 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.200 White House apparently was working Lauren Bobert seeing if they 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.560 could talk her out of being a signer, trying to 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.280 do whatever they can to stop this, and I think that. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.840 You know, the question is will this You know this 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.400 is a guy you know Axis Hollywood didn't end him. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.039 January six didn't end him. I mean, look at the 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.960 things he has done since coming into office. I mean, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.920 I'm going to give you a quick rundown. These are 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.039 just the people he pardoned on January sixth that have 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.840 committed crimes since right and none of this has hit 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.360 him yet. Edward Kelly, pardoned for January sixth, later convicted 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.200 to conspiring to murder FBI agents. Daniel Charles Ball was 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.720 pardoned in the January sixth pardons, and he was rearrested 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.919 on federal gun charges. Kyle kle Elton was pardoned with 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.560 his January sixth participation, later had to be indicted for 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:09.080 receiving child pornography. Christopher moynihan was pardoned for the January 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.560 sixth pardons, and in October twenty twenty five with charge 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.480 of threatening to kill the House Democratic leader Aqim Jeffreys. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.680 And then there's Robert Packer pardon another January sixth partony 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.919 in September of twenty twenty five charge in connection with 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.160 a dog attack that left four people injured. So people, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.800 he's pardoned have gone on to commit more crimes and 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:32.320 have become menaces to society. Never mind the other pardons 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.080 he's done of some really questionable figures, like the one 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.320 where it looks like he sold the pardon with Sheng 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:42.719 Peng Xiao, the finance founder. That guy's in business with 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.719 his sons and he magically gets a pardon. I wonder 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.560 how that worked. This guy apparently had billions and illicit transactions, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.400 and it was Trump's Department of Justice the first term 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:59.840 that actually prosecuted him. But we digress. George Santos, the 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.640 serial liar who defrauded voters, defrauded Congress, did all sorts 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:10.120 of things. He gets pardoned. Ed Martin, who who handles 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.640 his pardons, he gets pardoned. He got convicted of financial crimes, 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.599 misusing nonprofit funds, and he gets pardoned, and of course 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:22.640 I think works for Trump. Denesh Desuza, who is traffics 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.400 and made up Propa Canada with his Mules movie and 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.719 all this stuff, well, he was convicted of illegal of 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.960 the straw donor scheme. He received clemency. A couple of 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:40.560 other crypto fraud financiers that he's pardoned ever since. So 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.359 he's got and I say this, none of this stuff 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.080 has mattered, right, I throw all that out there. All 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.560 of this happened this year. He's you know, did the 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:54.800 bailout of Argentina instead of bailing out US beef producers. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.800 None of this has hit him, stuck to him yet, 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.760 So why should the Epstein files stick to him? Well, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.320 there's another way to look at this is that there 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.240 are times in any presidency where you have Teflon as 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.120 a president, and there are times in every presidency where 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.560 it feels like you're dressed in velcrow. There was, you know, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.520 Richard Nixon had Teflon in his first term. By the 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.120 second term, it was all velcrow and everything that was 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.800 connected to Watergate or loosely connected to Watergate or any 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.160 sort of presidential abuse of power seemed to stick to 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.960 him and stick to him. But why did he go 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:37.120 from a Teflon guy to a velcrow guy? A simple reason. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:44.440 The economy sucked. Why did Bill Clinton not get essentially 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:48.600 punished by the political system or by voters when it 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:53.160 came to Monica Lewinsky, the economy was great. Why did 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.280 the stuff in Trump's first term not stick to him? 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.000 There was a perception that he oversaw a successful economy 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:07.080 pre coronavirus. Why is this possible that this time he's 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.120 and this is why could this time be different? Because 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.960 too many people in this country think this economy sucks. Because, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:18.000 as we've discussed, if you have money, you're doing okay. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.760 If you don't have money, you're struggling. You're barely out 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.800 of you're barely above water. You're seeing your electric bill 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.200 go up, You're seeing the grocery bills go up. You're 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.040 seeing everything in your life go up in price. Trust me, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.439 even if you have some savings, you're seeing everything go up. Right, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.800 The cost of everything has gone up and feels like 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.320 it's going up substantially, particularly when you look at electricity. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.920 So you know, Epstein's been out there as an issue 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:53.320 for Trump arguably for years. The question is when does 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.640 it does a you know, why would it matter this 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.959 time more than before. You can say, well, there's more 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.120 evidence that connects him that he knew something. I definitely 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.439 think there's always going to be but you could make 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.360 the argument you kind of knew right, Like there's this 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.880 great quote from JD. Vance that actually which was you know, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.640 there's always a tweet right, this is JD. Vance Saraha 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.000 two thousand and one, So you'll be forgiven. I know 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.400 the way. You have to go way back in his past, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:30.560 right some four whole years ago. But the quote, and 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.160 I just want to get it directly here. I had 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.760 it up. Remember this is him. He was a tweet 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.960 he made in twenty twenty one. Remember when we learned 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.640 that our wealthiest and most powerful people were connected to 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.080 a guy who ran a literal child sex trafficking ring, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.840 and then that guy died mysteriously in jail, and now 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.320 we just don't talk about it. Of course, that was 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.000 when there was a democratic administration that he did tweet 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.520 this right number one, And that was back when the 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.440 right was convinced this was a cover up having to 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.960 do with Bill Clinton. But of course Jeffrey Epstein's closest 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:09.560 friend was not Bill Clinton. It was Donald Trump. And 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.600 with a the point I'm making here is do I 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:17.520 think Trump could Jedi mind trick his way out of this? Well, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.800 he has for a long time. And why has he 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.800 Well there's been other things. There's been And again I 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.079 go back to the first term, even when Jeffrey Epstein 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.960 was in custody, even when this whole thing consumed a 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.600 cabinet secretary of his who had to essentially drop because 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.959 of his lenient sentencing that he oversaw down in South Florida. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.559 It was because the perception, well, yeah, we knew all this, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.800 this was all baked in. We kind of knew Trump 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.840 was this. And this is why in some ways people 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.719 already know. Remember when we learned that our wealthiest and 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.240 most powerful people were connected to a guy hard Stop. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:59.120 So that's problem Number one for Trump is that Trump 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.040 has made it clear he's been part of the establishment, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.679 part of the elite. He knows everybody, He knows all 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.520 these guys, he's been there. He himself has quotes of him, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.080 Oh yeah, Jeffrey likes him young, and he knows. There's 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:14.960 that other quote that's floating around where he said, man, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.200 it was the nineties, a lot of crazy stuff was happening. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.920 I don't remember, which is always code for I don't 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.640 want to talk about what I might know, or what 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.680 I might have seen, or what I might have participated in. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.080 The Point is, it isn't going to be hard for 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.960 people to believe that he had a relationship with Epstein, 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:35.080 that he was close with him. The difference is they're 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.480 pissed off about he's not doing what he promised to 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.760 do as president, which is bring down the costs. They're 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:46.199 doing anything. But if anything, his policies have hurt you, right, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.559 it is the price of coffee is up, not down. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.960 Notice the Treasury Secretary says, we're going to lower the 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.200 price of coffee. We're going to lower the price of fruit. Translation, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.880 they realize these tariffs actually impacted everyday people. And when 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:04.400 you teariff Brazil over a political obsession of yours, all 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:09.040 you do is attack all Americans in their pocketbook because 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:16.920 of the price of coffee. So I'm always has it 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.560 in to assume, ah, this is it. But look, every 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.280 presidency comes to an end and their influence comes to 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.280 an end. And the way we mark the end of 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.000 a presidency as we say, oh, he's becoming a lame duck. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.960 And you're starting to hear the words lame duck. I 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.560 think when you measure when does a president become every 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.719 president becomes a lame duck. The question is when does 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.240 it begin. Well, trying to figure out when a presidency 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.640 is an official lame duck status is like trying to 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:51.320 guess when we're in recession. Right. There's a great line 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.720 about economists with recessions, they can always tell you when 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.280 it started. After the recession has started, there's not a 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.520 single economist that can tell you when it's going to begin. Right. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.240 They never tell you when it's going to be, and 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.440 we always are. We're always informed of when it began. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.160 I actually think there's the same thing with when it 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:15.520 comes to a lame duck presidency. Is this begun? Are 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.439 we in the midst of it? Are we at the 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.480 beginning of it? We're not going to know for sure, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.720 I think for about six months or a year. But 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.160 I'll tell you this if if we fast forward a 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.280 year and the Democrats sweep the House in the Senate, 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.160 which to me, you know and you're going to hear 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.199 this actually in the Adam Jenlsen interview, and I think 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.839 he sets this bar correctly, which is, if Democrats don't 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.200 win the Senate, they don't win the mid terms. Right. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:44.360 Winning the House is simply participating, right, that's table stakes. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.160 Winning the Senate means you won an argument, You won 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.200 the campaign because you convinced people who normally aren't on 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.320 your side to be on your side. That's winning right, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.760 Winning the House is simply participating. Winning the House is 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.680 a participation trophy. Winning the Senate is winning the midterms. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.640 So a year from now, if we're in a situation 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.040 where we say the Democrats swept the House in the Senate, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.679 we will then go back and say Donald Trump's lame 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.480 duck presidency hit lame ducks status election Day twenty twenty five, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.440 and arguably it probably happened a bit sooner. We might 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:24.120 say that essentially the symbolic beginning of his lame duckness 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.120 was the destruction of the East Wing when he became 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:33.880 so consumed with his personal legacy and he stopped worrying 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.440 about the American voter. Right. Look, Donald Trump's history is 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.640 he wants to get everything he can out of you 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.760 that benefits him, and once he drains, once you've given 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.280 him everything he can get out of you, he moves on. Right. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.000 My substeck this week is about how I think I 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.600 think he has treated the Republican Party the way he 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:00.600 treated many of the casinos that he operated or businesses 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.920 that he's run, which is he essentially leveraged it for 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.880 his benefit, left this entity with a huge debt. In 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.880 this case, the debt he has left him as moral 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:16.640 and ethical bankruptcy, and then he's gonna walk away. Meanwhile, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.560 the Republican Party is going to be the pardon of 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.680 shitty pardons, is going to be the party of that 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.920 doesn't care about the rule of law unless it applies 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.800 only to the other side, like he is gonna that 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.600 they're part of that. The legacy is somehow the Republican 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.640 Party is the party of crypto scammers. Like that's not 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.280 a good legacy. And then you throw in Epstein here 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:43.880 and he's the party of protecting the pedophile. 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So now Donald Trump's worried about 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.439 Donald Trump, and because of that, does it appears to 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.040 not even be worried about the voter anymore. And this 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.639 is where he goes from having a Teflon suit and 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.200 he was Teflon Don and he's been teflon don. Right. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:48.160 You know, he can attack John McCain and not lose somebody. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.239 He could shoot somebody apparently on Fifth Avenue and not 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.600 lose a supporter. But if this economy sucks, and if 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.480 the grocery bills, he can't Jedi mind trick away a 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:02.320 grocery bill. And then suddenly when that happens, and they think, well, 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.320 my life sucks, and this guy is worried more about 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.200 the East wing of the White House. Oh yeah, and 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.680 this guy protected a pedophile for decades, and this guy 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.600 is going to commute or the sentence of said pedophiles 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.359 partner in crime, literal partner in crime. And Gallainne Maxwell. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.560 That's how this that's how this story matters, right, And 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.320 now you've got this orchestration of a series of votes 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.720 where you know Epstein is one of these few stories. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:41.639 We live in this siloed information world where literally, you know, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.440 I could say, you know, I mean, I'm gonna have 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.159 an interview with Clay Travis in a couple of weeks. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.159 I don't think my mother knows who Clay Travis is. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.639 And I say this with no, you know, why should 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.199 she you know? He is? He he is in a 0:18:55.280 --> 0:19:00.639 different media ecosystem than my mother travels in. She doesn't, 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.520 you know, she watches a lot of college football, but 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.040 it happens she doesn't watch anything on Fox because Miami 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.200 doesn't ever play on Fox. They usually play on the 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.480 ESPN or ABC. So she might be aware of ESPN personalities, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.600 but she's not aware of any Fox sports personalities, let 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.760 alone aware of his radio show or any of those things. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:25.040 And Epstein's one of these stories that every every single 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.639 silo has an Epstein corner. Right, Your Maga silo has 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.080 an Epstein corner, Your sort of never Trump silo has 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.520 Epstein corners, your sort of center, your sort of mainstream 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.359 media has an Epstein corner, Your progressive wing has an 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:43.520 Epstein corner. Right, there is this collective interest in Epstein, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.479 And let's be honest, why there is. It's all. You know, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.440 at first, the rights interest in Epstein was all about 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.160 Bill Clinton. Nothing. It was always about Bill Clint. That's 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.960 how the right got fascinated by this. They were hoping 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.000 to paint and it was all these you know, democratics 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:06.080 are all part of this weird pedophilia conspiracy that QAnon launched. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.639 All this, it's all sort of wrapped up in that. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.080 And then Trump's names showed up in the Epstein files. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.240 Right then we realized. And then Trump became a cornerstone 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:20.840 of Mega and sort of created somebody's created Mega, right, Certainly, 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.920 it's always a question, you know, like anything, Trump doesn't 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.520 create anything. He just sort of got in front of 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.960 a parade that was that was starting to form, and 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:33.000 then suddenly he became their leader and their unifier. But 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.159 here we are, and now everybody else is interested in 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.040 it because you're like, whoa, So Trump's involved in this 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.520 and this side, you know, and it's just one of 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.400 those stories that everybody's got a stake in. So this 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.399 is going to be a story that constantly, just like 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.639 the economy is right, the economy breaks through every because 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.679 you can't sort of information silo your grocery bill, you know, 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.920 there isn't a Fox News version of the Grocery Bill 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.680 or an MSNBC version of Grocery Bill. So you can't 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.840 do that with the economy, and in this unique case, 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.920 you can't do it with the Epstein story. And this 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.600 is why this feels like a very lame that this 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.360 is what lame duck. What happens to lame duck presidencies 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.600 is that they can't stop feeding frenzies anymore. You know, 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.359 this happened with George W. Bush. You know a lot 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.480 of people will say the feeding frenzies, you know, sort 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:26.359 of the lame duck period of the Bush presidency began 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.280 with the twenty oh six midterms. I'd actually argue, or 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.359 you could go backwards and say it began with the 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.640 Terry Schivo thing, when they went full bore on that 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.800 and the public revolted and they couldn't sort of, you know, 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:45.720 their typical positions didn't work, their typical media spin didn't work. 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.919 And then you realize, you know, his credibility was shot, 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.200 It was already weakening due to a rock. Terry Schivo hits. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.400 Then Katrina happens, and then the whole thing is over. 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.400 But Katrina didn't start the lame duck period. The lame 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.199 duck period actually began at the tail at the at 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.520 the beginning of five when he started messing around with 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:10.160 the Shaivo business and Social security investments, et cetera. And 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:15.240 so that's where I think this if we're if indeed 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.600 we're able to in a year from now, really in it. 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.600 We have the environment that we have and it does 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.200 turn into a democratic suite. We will say this lame 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.880 duck period began in the fall of in the fall 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.080 of this year, just like with Joe Biden's presidency, it 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.639 turned out the beginning of the end of his presidency 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.840 happened really early in his presidency, right with the Afghanistan 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.960 withdrawal and the inability to to sort of hold anybody accountable, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.680 fix it, explain it. And he never recovered from there. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.840 And while because he was a first term president, you'd 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.400 never say lame duck in hindsight, you know, that's when 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.679 he lost. That's when he lost the plot and it 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:58.120 was and everything went downhill from there. You know. That's 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.920 I think the situation we may be living him now. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.679 And the nightmare for the White House press shop is 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.720 is you know, Trump has not helped them at all. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.600 You know, I would argue that he actually had a 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.920 you know, Trump's problem is going soft on Maxwell because 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:20.240 by going soft on Maxwell, but he is essentially confirmed 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.280 the idea that Maxwell knows some stuff, that he's friendly 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:29.760 with her, that he knows her, and it undermines the 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.879 story that he had sort of lived with for a 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.720 while when it came to Epstein that I that mostly 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:39.119 worked with his supporters, which was, yeah, I knew Jeffrey 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.040 Epstein very well, and then our relationship ended because I 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:43.800