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Speaker 1: to us from Eric Clark and he's talking about returner

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think the younger, cheaper option and Chris

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Speaker 1: Board comes in and and this happens. It's the nature

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. The younger cheaper guys always there. Chris

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Speaker 1: Board has good size, six ft two, uh, North Dakota

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Speaker 1: State guy. I think that he's he's played well and

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Speaker 1: here's the reality. Chris Board is Albert McClellan eight years

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Speaker 1: ago exactly. Know, he's an undrafted guy that comes in

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Speaker 1: and warns his way on special teams. Really eight years ago,

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Speaker 1: it's been that long. I think it has I think

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Speaker 1: it has um so he's been a better guy and

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Speaker 1: and really what I come down to for this position

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Speaker 1: so good in that area. So that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I'm kind of hanging on to, Like do they

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Speaker 1: ultimately ended up saying does Jerry Rossberg bang on the

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Speaker 1: table for Albert mcclellen. And I think he may, um,

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Speaker 1: But I just think that they may go with, like

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Speaker 1: you said, the younger cheaper option. There yeah, I agree. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The other interesting part and somebody that nobody's talking about

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Speaker 1: his man Bradley. I mean he's on pup right now,

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Speaker 1: which means he'll start the first six weeks of the

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Speaker 1: season on pup. So here's the guy that I think

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Speaker 1: had a he had a shot had taken starting job

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Speaker 1: last year when it was Casey and Peanut battling for

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Speaker 1: that ban. Bradley was in that mix and could also

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Speaker 1: be a young, cheap special teamer as well. So if

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Speaker 1: he comes off pup, which I think is still a

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Speaker 1: question mark with his knee at this point, they could

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Speaker 1: just give him the year another year off, which would

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Speaker 1: really stink for him. Um, but if he comes off,

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. Yeah, it'll be. Youve got to see

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Speaker 1: him on the fieldcause who knows. I mean it's been

456
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Speaker 1: a long time for him. Hasn't even practiced in more

457
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Speaker 1: than a year. So alright, so defensive line is an

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Speaker 1: interesting one. Agree. I agree with you on that. What

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Speaker 1: are you going with here? I've got well the obvious ones,

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Speaker 1: will Willie, Henry Brandon Williams, Michael Pierce, Brent urban all

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Speaker 1: on okay, obvious, yeah, okay, Chris Wormley isn't obvious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Chris Wormley, I've got on um, so I've got I've

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Speaker 1: got a both on me too. Yeah, Like I think

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Speaker 1: there's all this this discussion about whether they're both going

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Speaker 1: to be on the team or whether they're both gonna

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Speaker 1: get left off. I've got both of them on the team.

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Speaker 1: I think that Karl Davis is a versatile player who

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Speaker 1: can play a couple of different positions on that defensive line.

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Speaker 1: He's flashed at times. I think you know, they probably

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Speaker 1: it's reliable. They know they have in Carl. It's not

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Speaker 1: like he's been a big time player. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: that you hope out of a third round pick, if

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Speaker 1: some people thought it would be like up late first,

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Speaker 1: early second, you know, when he was coming out of

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Speaker 1: the draft. But I think that he's, like you said,

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Speaker 1: a reliable guy who would be you need as many

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Speaker 1: defensive you need these defensive linemen. I think that he's on.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. And Steeler I think has played

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Speaker 1: his way on as the seventh row and pick out

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Speaker 1: a fair state played really well. I think he's played

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Speaker 1: his way on. And I think Willie Henry's injury obviously

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Speaker 1: in Yeah, Willie Hender if he's out for whatever it

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Speaker 1: is early part of the season, you know, two games,

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Speaker 1: three games, one, whatever it is. You need defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not with him, then that leaves you

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Speaker 1: with six guys. Now, Patrick Riccard can play defensive line,

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Speaker 1: so you're not exactly thin at that position. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if you don't keep a defensive lineman, I think that

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Speaker 1: means if you cut or shelf size Silary Steelers, Steeler Steeler,

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Speaker 1: or you cut Carl Davis, that's a spot that I

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Speaker 1: think could go to the offensive line or tight ends.

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Speaker 1: For me at quarterback, it's tough, or for you at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough one. But I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: think the Ravens first and foremost like to stop the

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Speaker 1: run and they're not going to leave themselves. Then on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, Yeah, the other thing with the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: Inevitably these guys get banged up there down there in

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Speaker 1: the trenches. They roll an ankle, they twist a knee,

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Speaker 1: they're out for for a couple of weeks. You need

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Speaker 1: death there. Both of us have to say that. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: former third round pick last year, he was healthy during

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Speaker 1: the season but really didn't crack the lineup was a

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Speaker 1: healthy scratch most of the time. Even after the injury

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Speaker 1: to brand Urban. The Ravens have moved into a rush

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Speaker 1: linebacker role this year to where he to allow him

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Speaker 1: to be more of a true pass rusher, which is

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Speaker 1: where he excelled in college at b y U. But

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Speaker 1: I just haven't seen enough from him, I think. And

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Speaker 1: he's playing at a deep spot, that rush linebacker spot.

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Speaker 1: I just haven't seen enough from him at this point

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Speaker 1: to say that he's on over Davis or Steeler. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. So our differences are okay,

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Speaker 1: I have r G three on. You gave that spot

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Speaker 1: to Jermaine the luminary, And our only other difference is

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Speaker 1: that I went with Jenner and Grant and you went

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Speaker 1: with Tim White. Well, here we go, shake hands, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Only two only two differences differences. Now, of course I

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Speaker 1: could still I can still tweak. Mine hand is shaking.

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Speaker 1: We're good. It's final, final, No tweaks, He is like me, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no tweaks. All right. So for you guys fans that

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Speaker 1: So you know, some people kind of like to wait

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Speaker 1: fourth preseason games with Casey. Yeah, I know. So there's

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Speaker 1: a benefits waiting. Whether there's also a benefit if you

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Speaker 1: the supporting topic, yes, talk, tell me what your cold

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Speaker 1: giving your cold take on the pumpkin beer. All right,

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Speaker 1: so the cold take is this? The cold take is this?

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Speaker 1: It's obviously a little early. It's obviously a little early.

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Speaker 1: So we say this every year, and we do say

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Speaker 1: it every year. It's really hot today. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like a thousand agrees outside, and so the last thing

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Speaker 1: that I want is to go home and have a

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Speaker 1: nice heavy pumpkin beer when it's a hundred and three

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Speaker 1: degrees and completely human. That's said. I don't know that said.

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Speaker 1: I also think that you settle in at night. Football

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Speaker 1: is on, you know, even if it's college football starts

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Speaker 1: this weekend, a little more college football, so it's you know,

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Speaker 1: seventy degrees in the house, Holge football starts this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that this weekend could be could

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Speaker 1: be the start, It could be the start. All Right.

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Speaker 1: I prefer to make it. I prefer to wait till September.

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Speaker 1: I prefer to wait till September. And this Saturday is

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Speaker 1: gonna be what's this Saturday? September one September. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm a clear perfect timing. All right, here's my hot take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's my my hottake is I'm dialing back on the

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Speaker 1: drinking of the pumping beers this year. Really, I'm officially saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know I've had them all. I've had them all, right,

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Speaker 1: I've traveled the world. I've experienced everything. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you know this or not. Why would you mess

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Speaker 1: with a great thing? Why? Yeah? A lot, experience it all,

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Speaker 1: you know, just drinking all the time. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I needed all the time that I don't know

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Speaker 1: you're giving you're giving up the pumpkin beer. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying I'm giving up pumpkin beer, but special occasions. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go early. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna go early. I'm gonna weave for the perfect circumstances. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting at a campfire back behind my house. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a little fire pit. Who built it myself?

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Speaker 1: Do you know why? You just throw some leaves on

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Speaker 1: the grounds that off Fireally haven't said out there in

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Speaker 1: two years, But I'm gonna I'm gonna open it up

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Speaker 1: this year. I'm gonna sit back there, nice fall weather.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking October. I mean that's the bed, that's when

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Speaker 1: it's at the bed. Look, there's no bait beating the

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Speaker 1: October cool night, uh fridgid morning. You know, pump king

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Speaker 1: pump king. That's great, that's that's fantastic. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying I'm okay with it being now right now, I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with it. You are okay again. It's a little early,

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Speaker 1: earlier than I would like, but it didn't. It didn't

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Speaker 1: rile me up the way it has in years passed.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good. You're settling down, I am said, And

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Speaker 1: I've come to expect it. I've just used to it now.

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Speaker 1: So well, you know, make sure you stock our mini fridge. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's your turn. There's plenty of stuff in there because

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Speaker 1: s I bought the first six pack. It's fully stocked.

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Speaker 1: It's your turn. Yeah, we don't have any more room

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Speaker 1: in there. It's completely stocked. We'll have to drink some alright. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So that's it for us. Uh And again, as always,

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Speaker 1: you guys can email us at the lounge at Ravens

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Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. Next week we are going to

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Speaker 1: give you our predictions for the upcoming season. So another

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Speaker 1: chance for me to beat you on something. Yeah. This

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Speaker 1: is like you know, offensive MVP, defensive MVP, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna bring on our new staff writer, Clifton Brown.

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Speaker 1: He's going to serve as the judge. Yes, he can

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Speaker 1: educate you on a few things. He said. He's got

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Speaker 1: the whole wig, like the old you know British. He said,

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Speaker 1: he's going to bring that in in a room and

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Speaker 1: everything perfect. I look forward to that. It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for listening. We'll be back to me next week.