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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a very special episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 1: And this is in honor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

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Speaker 1: I think many of you probably know my story and

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Speaker 1: the significance of October first for me, eleven years ago,

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Speaker 1: I walked in and had my very first mammogram as

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Speaker 1: an assignment, a work assignment. So I went into a

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Speaker 1: Mamma van in the middle of Times Square or a

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Speaker 1: segment on Good Morning America, just to show women that

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Speaker 1: and so much so that I was willing to do

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Speaker 1: it as a public service for other women who might

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Speaker 1: find their breast cancer. Well, it turns out a few

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Speaker 1: weeks later, I myself, on October thirtieth, was diagnosed ultimately

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Speaker 1: with stage two invasive breast cancer, and that led to

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Speaker 1: a series of doctors' visits and surgeries. But I ended

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Speaker 1: up with a double mistectomy. I had six months eight

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Speaker 1: rounds of chemotherapy, I had several reconstructive surgeries, and today,

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Speaker 1: eleven years later, I can proudly say that my cancer

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Speaker 1: is in remission and that I've had many many blood

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Speaker 1: tests over the years, and so far, so good on

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Speaker 1: those tumor markers. But it is something that I will

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Speaker 1: always remain vigilant about and certainly something that I will

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Speaker 1: continue to advocate because other women, all the women out there,

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Speaker 1: need to know. And this is a great reminder October.

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Speaker 1: First make those mammogram appointments, check in with your doctor.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're taking care of yourself so we can

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Speaker 1: take care of all the people we love in our lives.

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Speaker 1: Because I know so many of us women are thinking

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Speaker 1: about our children, are thinking about the other people in

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Speaker 1: our family, making sure they're taking care of it. So

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Speaker 1: often we forget about taking care of our own health.

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Speaker 1: So please everyone in this month of October, remember to

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Speaker 1: make your appointments and to keep them and not just once.

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Speaker 1: This is something that we hope women can do every year.

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Speaker 1: The recommendation finally is bad down to the age of

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Speaker 1: forty and that is when women, that is when the

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Speaker 1: American Cancer Society and other organizations recommend that women start

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Speaker 1: getting that baseline mammogram. And right now, just to give

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Speaker 1: Just last year, the American Cancer Society estimates that about

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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand women in this country were diagnosed with

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Speaker 1: invasive breast cancer, and many people have heard the statistic,

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Speaker 1: but one in eight women in this country in their

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Speaker 1: lifetime will be diagnosed with breast cancer. And among those

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Speaker 1: thirty percent of us will go on to have metastatic

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Speaker 1: or stage four breast cancer. And these are serious numbers

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Speaker 1: that I always try to let women know. They think, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't have any family history. No one I know

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter, because more than eighty percent of

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Speaker 1: all breast cancer patients did not have family history, and

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Speaker 1: that was my history as well. Actually come from a

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Speaker 1: very large family. My mom is one of nine, my

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Speaker 1: a breast cancer patient. And so that work assignment I

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Speaker 1: lot of ways, Breast Cancer Awareness Month and October first

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Speaker 1: and TJ, I want to let everyone know that early

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Speaker 1: that whether you're diagnosed at stage zero or stage four,

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Speaker 1: not only can you live longer, but you can live better.

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Speaker 1: So bottom line, this is not your grandmother's breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: Breast cancer today is so much more manageable. There are

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Speaker 1: so many advancements in treating and in testing. And get

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Speaker 1: this statistic right now, after five years, ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: I was told even when I was diagnosed that if

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Speaker 1: And so we have treatments that are for every individual's

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Speaker 1: remarkable thing. And I've always said that there is a

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Speaker 1: cure for cancer. It's called cash. You know, we can

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Speaker 1: encourage and contribute whatever we can to so many incredible

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Speaker 1: going to talk about her journey of becoming her own advocate,

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Speaker 3: Welcome Nicole, Hi, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: We all fell in love with you in Charles with

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Speaker 1: anyone of a certain age, for sure, but you have

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Speaker 1: been obviously in the headlines again with your breast cancer battle.

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Speaker 1: So my first question is how are you doing? Where

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm good and a journey it has been. I

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Speaker 4: it really has. I did eight months of treatment. I

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Speaker 5: assume some days are tougher than others, but generally speaking, generally.

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Speaker 4: Speaking, I feel good. I you know, I changed. I

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Speaker 3: Very diligent about my mammograms.

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Speaker 4: I happen to be somebody who has very dense breast

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Speaker 3: Like I right now, my next steps are treatment. What

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00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: is going to be my next treatment?

438
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: So and for now I have, you know, like a

439
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: fifteen dollars fake boo by wear, So.

440
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: That's my reconstruction for now. And I feel good about it.

441
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: I go, you know, so it's very much just one

442
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 4: step at a time. But now it's healing and then

443
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: getting back into some sort of treatment, whatever that is.

444
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: And you know what this is the other thing. You know,

445
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: your life goes on while you're dealing with all of this,

446
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: and you've been very vocal about the fact that you're

447
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: a single mom and you have a little one still

448
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: at home who relies on you, and you gotta work,

449
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: and so your life doesn't just stop when you get

450
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: breast cancer, and it can't for a lot of women

451
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: who need to pay the bills, and there are a

452
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: lot of bills that get wrecked up when you're dealing

453
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: with this, and you've been busy. You just were walking

454
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: a red carpet after Baywatch. Moment in the sun. Tell

455
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: us about your latest project and how you've managed to

456
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: keep this all going at the level you've been doing

457
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: it at while you're battling breast cancer. That's remarkable.

458
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: Well, I think it gives it gave me a purpose

459
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: to get up and do something and to push myself.

460
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: My thirteen year old definitely keeps me on my toes

461
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: and definitely still has all the same demands as if

462
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: I didn't have the diagnosis. The documentary we started before

463
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: the pandemic, So it's this labor of love that we've

464
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 4: been doing, and it just was getting so close to

465
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 4: the end, and it was the exciting part. And it

466
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: was the wrapping it up and the selling of it

467
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: and the premiere of it and all of that stuff,

468
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: so and then the promoting of it.

469
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: So it was it gave me life.

470
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 4: To be honest, I would much rather be busy and

471
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 4: I have my weekly podcast. I think that for me,

472
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: keeping myself busy and distracted and living and thinking of

473
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 4: the no thing, it really is much better than sitting

474
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: and always researching and always feeling all the pains and

475
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: thinking of, you know, the pains. So it really sort

476
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: of helps me to just like keep living my best

477
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 4: life through it all, because I think that's what's going

478
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: to get me through.

479
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: That's definitely going to get you through. And what do

480
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: you want you know, I'm sure when you went back

481
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: and you actually watched the labor of love that you

482
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: put together over the last several years, what do you

483
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: hope viewers take away from the docu series? What do

484
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: you want them to remember most about it just give

485
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: us a sense of what viewers will get when they

486
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: watch it if they haven't already.

487
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: Well, the nostalgia is always great, right.

488
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: It takes you back to a time you can remember it, music, visuals,

489
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: it all takes you back to a time and it

490
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: was it was a happy time for most of us.

491
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: So the nostalgia's there, that escapism is there, But you

492
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: get to really meet the people who were just these

493
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: spaces in these bathing suits, and you get to hear about,

494
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: you know, their real personal journeys and not the same

495
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 4: stories that have been regurgitated over and over in every

496
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: magazine and interview to date.

497
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 3: It's it's different.

498
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: It's not the same pictures, it's not the same stories.

499
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 4: It's just a deeper, more personal conversation and nothing's off

500
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: the table with any of the cast. And so I

501
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: think you really get to learn who who people are,

502
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: for who they are instead of just that beautiful face

503
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 4: of that beautiful body in that bathing suit. And a

504
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: lot of people have a really amazing journey that they

505
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 4: have to share, and so it's really work. It's really

506
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 4: great to let them speak and give them the platform

507
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: to tell their story.

508
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: You know, it's not lost on me that Baywatch was

509
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: so much about boobs. I mean, it just really was right,

510
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: the slow mode, the bouncing, the bouncing chest of the women,

511
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: and now we're talking about your boobs again, but in

512
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: a different way. I don't know if that irony was

513
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: lost on you as well.

514
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: I said it so many times.

515
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: Irony was not lost on me that I had no

516
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 4: hair and I'm getting rid of my boobs, like and

517
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm promoting Baywatch like life, Life is funny. Life likes

518
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: to play jokes, so you know, I definitely found the

519
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: humor in that, and it made me laugh. And I

520
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: think it was, in a weird way helpful because I

521
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: didn't have to like live up to any image. I

522
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: didn't have to be like, this is me at fifty two,

523
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: completely healthy and just you know, compared to at least

524
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: like you know, to me, it was it took a

525
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: weird pressure off of like what I look like and

526
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 4: how I was presenting myself because I don't really have

527
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 4: a choice in the matter right now, So.

528
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

529
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: I try to find the humor in everything. But I'm

530
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: glad that you that you thought that too. A lot

531
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: of people, I think are afraid to say that, well,

532
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: I mean maybe a.

533
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: Funny to me.

534
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: No get you get to a point where we're like,

535
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I just being anyone in a

536
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: publica You're talking about something that seems so personal and private,

537
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you know what the good thing

538
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: is if the more we talk about it, the more

539
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: we make it something that people think about that women

540
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: aren't afraid to talk about, because imagine what life would

541
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: have been like for you or for me going through

542
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: this if we didn't have someone else to look to

543
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: to say they did it, and if they can do it,

544
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: I can do it the power of one other woman's

545
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: story and make it. You do feel alone when you're diagnosed, oddly,

546
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: despite the fact that we know the numbers and we

547
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: know so many women go through this. Somehow, when it

548
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: happens to you, you feel so alone. You feel like

549
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: you're the only person in the world going through it.

550
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: Has it been hard for you to share your story?

551
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how difficult it is. No

552
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: one wants to be pitied, No one wants to be

553
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: thought of as sick or weak or less then, and

554
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: when you share your story, those are real fears.

555
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: You're right.

556
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: But for me, I had I kept so much childhood

557
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: trauma bottled up inside of me for so long, and

558
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: not that long ago if it finally had released it

559
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: and really had been working on always sharing and being

560
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: open and honest and you know, all of these things,

561
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: and when I got the diagnosis, they're just after you know,

562
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 4: after I processed and everything, there was no way I

563
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: was going to keep it private or keep it to myself.

564
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: I feel like keeping things made me sick, and you know,

565
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: that's how I just personally feel about it. And I

566
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: wasn't going to.

567
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 6: Hide it.

568
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: And I didn't want people when they were to run

569
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: into me or see me to feel uncomfortable and not

570
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: know or feel like should they say something?

571
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: Should they not? I wanted people.

572
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: To know that that's what they were dealing with when

573
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: they were going to see me. And I had questions

574
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: and if other people high questions, you know, if we

575
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: can help each other and just compare stories, you learn

576
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 4: so much that way, you really do. You at least

577
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: I learned so much by talking to other women, And

578
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: so for me, keeping it private wasn't really an option

579
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: because I wanted other people to feel like, Okay, we

580
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: can ask her. We can talk, we can listen to her,

581
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: and you know she can ask us. And I wanted

582
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: it to be on the table.

583
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: I totally get that. I totally get that. And how

584
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned that, Yes, you've lived a lot

585
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: of life, You've had a lot of childhood trauma, You've

586
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: done a lot of it in front of the entire world.

587
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: But getting this diagnosis and going through what you've already

588
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: been through, knowing the road you have ahead of you,

589
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: how has your life changed in terms of perspective and

590
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: how you look at yourself and the world around you.

591
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: So many ways? And I know you can attest to this.

592
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: The fearlessness that I have, I just that's what.

593
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: Can bring it. What can you do to me?

594
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: You can't. There's not much you can do to me now.

595
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: So I'm not afraid of very much anymore. Whereas before

596
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: I was, you know, pretty guarded and insecure, a bit

597
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: of an introvert, I'm not that anymore. I'm no longer

598
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: afraid to advocate at all about anything for myself, which

599
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: I had an issue I had a problem with before.

600
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: I feel like the happiness that I feel.

601
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: Is unparalleled, and I don't I can't really explain that

602
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: it's a hard one to put into words of the

603
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: happiness you can feel because you begin to appreciate things

604
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: so differently. Just I just look at life so incredibly different,

605
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: and I don't want to waste moments. I don't want

606
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: to waste moments being angry or upset over things that

607
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: really just don't matter. I've become And not that I

608
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: was judgmental at all before, but I am just so

609
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: much more accepting of everything without a second thought. You know,

610
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 4: like everything seems so much more beautiful than it did before.

611
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: You know, more things are beautiful than not to me now.

612
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: And in a weird way, it has changed my life

613
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: for the better and it's really made me stop and

614
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: you know, reevaluate what's important here? What what are we

615
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: worrying about? What are we doing? What are we enjoying?

616
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: And what are we not enjoying? And I think that

617
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: that's really like it's been really life changing.

618
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: It just has changed everything.

619
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: And Nicole, it is not weird at all for you

620
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: to tell me, you know.

621
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: You know what else I want to say?

622
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what else really was a big change

623
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: is I love my body, whereas before I really would

624
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: have complained about all the weight I put on from chemo.

625
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to put on like over forty pounds in

626
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: a short period of time from the steroids.

627
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't mad at it at all.

628
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking my body for getting up and working

629
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: for me and fighting for me and letting me live

630
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: every day. And it really changed my perspective on my

631
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: body and my body image. And that was huge for me,

632
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: because all of a sudden, I wasn't going, oh my god,

633
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: you know, I don't fit into this, I don't fit

634
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: into that. I was like just thankful that I had

635
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 4: this vessel, no matter you know what it looked like,

636
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: and even now with one boob, you know, it's just crazy.

637
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: You just have this new appreciation for it. And I

638
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: felt like that was that was something I didn't expect

639
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: and was really important.

640
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: I know, the gratitude for all the things that maybe

641
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: you would have actually been annoyed about suddenly just it's

642
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: it is life changing in every way. And people don't

643
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: realize when you're on chemo. People think, you know, not

644
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: everyone gets that Gaune. Look, I gained weight. A lot

645
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: of women gain weight on chemo because you're you're yes,

646
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: the steroids and also you're nauseated and so you're eating

647
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot of carbs, and you can't work out the

648
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: way you did before because you're exhausted. So you know,

649
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: there's so many things that happened that are surprising sometimes

650
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: when you're going through this, But I love your perspective

651
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: and it is one of those things where you're actually

652
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: in a weird way. Well, I will just say this,

653
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be who I am today. I wouldn't be

654
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: where I am today without the cancer, and it changes

655
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: you for the better in a lot of ways. And

656
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Speaker 1: I remember my oncologie is saying this to me when

657
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Speaker 1: I first got diagnosed. She said, of all the women

658
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: who I have treated, when they come back after they're

659
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: in remission, not a one of them, with some perspective,

660
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: would give it back because they wouldn't be who they

661
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: are today without that journey. And I know that sounds

662
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: crazy and weird and bizarre, and I've kind of always

663
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: joked them still not in that place where I wouldn't

664
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Speaker 1: have given it back, because I think I still would,

665
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: because come, you know, you can finish your treatment and

666
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: you can be in remission, but you'll always live with

667
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: this diagnosis, because there's always the fear of recurrence. So

668
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: how have you changed your life for the better? And

669
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Speaker 1: what advice would you give women who are going through

670
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: who are maybe a year behind you, or who have

671
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Speaker 1: yet to be diagnosed. What would you say to them?

672
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Speaker 4: I would say to them to you know, first of all,

673
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: just be okay with it somehow. Whatever that is for you.

674
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 4: A lot of people, you know, faith is a big one.

675
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: Whatever that is for you. For me, that's you know,

676
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: I'm spiritual. I believe you rely heavy on your faith

677
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: and believe in the science.

678
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: If you're going to go to the.

679
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: Science route, which I chose to do because it's what

680
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: I believe in, you've got to believe in it and

681
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: go for it. You have to you have to trust,

682
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: and you have to know that you're where you're supposed

683
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 4: to be. And that might not sound fun and it

684
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: might not make sense in the moment, but we're all

685
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: where we're supposed to be for whatever reason. And like

686
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: you said, I think that there's this you'll do.

687
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: It's just it's.

688
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: Life changing and you'll never be the same and there

689
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: is no looking back. And yeah, we can worry about

690
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: reoccurrence and all of that, but we can also not

691
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: have had it and still worry about occurrence. So it's

692
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: you know, we're living in a world filled with it.

693
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: And I think that technology and the science have progressed

694
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: so much that you know, the success rate is much

695
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: higher than it used to be. This is not a

696
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: death sentence by any means like what it used to be.

697
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: And you know, to just try to find that light,

698
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: try to find what makes you happy, try to find

699
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: whatever it is that works for you. And I know

700
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: that everybody's so different. For me, like being bald was amazing,

701
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: so I embraced that. I always wanted to be bald.

702
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: I thought it would be for like a movie part

703
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: or something like that, but not so lucky there was

704
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: from this, but I was like excited about that in

705
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: a weird way because I didn't have to do my

706
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: hair anymore. And it feels so good to drive with

707
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 4: the windows down and no hair.

708
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Speaker 3: Ah, guys, it's amazing. So it's like finding those things

709
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: that are just that do make you happy.

710
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: And you know, and believing and choosing how you're going

711
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: to move forward, not being afraid of it, taking it

712
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: on and.

713
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Just believing, believing in it and.

714
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: Trying to be as happy as you can through it,

715
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: because sad bodies don't heal.

716
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Speaker 1: That's such a good point, Nicole. I just really want

717
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: to thank you for being so open and so forthcoming,

718
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, and everyone's got their own level

719
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: of comfort in terms of sharing their story, but it

720
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: is so powerful when women choose to do so, especially

721
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: someone who's as beloved as you are and as well

722
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: known as you are. It's just it makes a huge

723
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: difference in so many women's lives. You'll never know how

724
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: many women you've helped and maybe even helped diagnose, convinced

725
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: to go get that mammogram or to do that self

726
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: exam whose lives you've actually saved by sharing your message.

727
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: So I want to thank you. We want to thank

728
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: you for being that person and being willing to be

729
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: put in the spotlight and scrutinized in a way for

730
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: your choices, because that's all a part of this as well,

731
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: when you come out publicly with this disease. But Nicole,

732
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: we are wishing you the very best. I know you're

733
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: going to have a beautiful, beautiful life, and I know

734
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: how you're living is proof right there that you have

735
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: You've beaten cancer by how you live. That's how we

736
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: beat cancer. So congratulations on all you've done, and we

737
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: wish you nothing but health and happiness.

738
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

739
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: Thank you, and thank you for everyone that reaches out

740
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: and shares their story as well, because it's helped me

741
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: immensely and you as well.

742
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, we got this, We really do.

743
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you have followed our podcast

744
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: for some time, and if you remember January seventeenth, there

745
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: was an episode that if you haven't listened to, I

746
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: hope you do. It's titled LFG, which means lets fing

747
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: go right kind of yea, let's they're gonna blee me

748
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: out anyway, Let's can go. That is the mantra of

749
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: the woman who is sitting in the studio with us

750
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Speaker 1: right now. Her name is Morgan Mitchell, and she is

751
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: one of my best best friends. And I'll sum up her,

752
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: uh her journey pretty quickly, and then I'll let her

753
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: give you an amazing update that we cannot wait to

754
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: share with everybody. My dear friend, Morgan Mitchell diagnosed with

755
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: stage four metastatic breast cancer. Did I mention this is

756
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: not your grandmother's breast cancer? Diagnosed at the age of

757
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Speaker 1: twenty eight. December first, she will celebrate seven years fighting

758
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: stage four metastatic breast cancer. And she is not only surviving,

759
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: this girl is thriving. She is a badass. She says

760
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: LFG every time she goes into her infusion chair, and

761
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: she's ready for it. She does million dollar, multimillion dollar

762
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: deals from that chemo chair. And she is really one

763
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: of one of my heroes, someone who I look to,

764
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Speaker 1: Gosh when I think I'm having a tough day or

765
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: I don't think I can do something, I think, you

766
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: know what what Morgan's doing. And if Morgan can do

767
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: what she's doing, all of us can do a little

768
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: bit better each and every day. So Morgan, welcome back

769
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Speaker 1: to the podcast.

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Speaker 7: Ah, thank you guys, thanks for having me back.

771
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, Morgan's moving today and she stopped

772
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: in the middle of her move to come back into

773
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Speaker 1: the iHeart Studios to give us some really amazing news

774
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: because so much of so much of what we talk

775
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: about with breast cancer. It can be sad, it can

776
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: be scary, but there is so much hope and that

777
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: is what I love about your story. So tell me,

778
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Speaker 1: first of all, how you're doing right now, Morgan, what

779
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: your treatments are like, and how you're physically feeling.

780
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 7: Physically, you know, you just keep rolling with it. Exhausted,

781
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 7: but you put one foot in front of the other

782
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 7: and just get her done. The move's going great.

783
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 8: We have painters painting the second bedroom a color pink

784
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 8: because my.

785
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 7: Husband and I are actually expecting. So that is the

786
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Speaker 7: big news.

787
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Speaker 2: We're so excited.

788
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: Wait say it again for everyone. You are expecting a

789
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Speaker 1: baby girl.

790
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 8: Yes, when January fifth is her induction date.

791
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 7: We're so excited.

792
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 8: Like you had mentioned, Damie, seven years battling this disease.

793
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 8: Every three weeks, I'm going in for immunotherapy and so

794
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 8: things are going great.

795
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 7: Really excited to actually be on this baby journey with

796
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 7: the surrogate. And who would have thought I would have

797
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 7: been here?

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Speaker 2: Right?

799
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so many women And you know, I was told

800
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: I had already had two daughters, so it was not

801
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: the same. But I was told you were out of

802
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: the baby making business the moment I got diagnosed and

803
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I had a couple weeks with it, and I wanted

804
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: to harvest eggs and then Chimo began. So a lot

805
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: of women in your position are put into a very

806
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: tight window. Make your decision. Do you want to harvest

807
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: your eggs to give yourself the opportunity to have a

808
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: baby because you're by you can't you are it's not advised.

809
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: I should say that you can do whatever you want.

810
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: And some women have made that choice to go ahead

811
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Speaker 1: and get pregnant, but you're told that it's not in

812
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: your best interest.

813
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, for stage four breast cancer specifically what I have,

814
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 8: it's estrogen positive. The answer is hell no, like you

815
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 8: will not be having a child otherwise you will ultimately

816
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 8: probably meet your demise. So my husband and I when

817
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 8: I was first diagnosed, we had twenty four hours to

818
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 8: make that call of IVF or not, and so really

819
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 8: really excited that. Bob, my husband, pushed me to do that.

820
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 8: So we did freeze eggs. We put that on pause

821
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Speaker 8: so that we could have a backup plan. And now

822
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Speaker 8: today we made embryos during COVID and really started pushing

823
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Speaker 8: ahead to try to create this family for us.

824
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Speaker 1: It's a remarkable thing to think about. You are dealing

825
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: with an illness, like a diagnosis, like it's almost like

826
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Speaker 1: worst case scenarios. Stage four. You're twenty eight, you're just

827
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Speaker 1: starting your life, and now you have twenty four hours

828
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Speaker 1: to decide what you're gonna do with your eggs. How

829
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Speaker 1: did you What were those twenty four hours like grueling?

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Speaker 7: I didn't sleep. I don't know how you don't sleep.

831
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Speaker 8: I mean they immediately put me on letrasol and started

832
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 8: the estrogen treatments, and basically they give you estrogen, but

833
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 8: they suppress your estrogen to basically harvest the eggs within

834
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Speaker 8: two weeks. So with stage four, you met or I

835
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Speaker 8: met a bunch of different oncologists and they gave me

836
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Speaker 8: two weeks. They said, you have two weeks till we

837
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Speaker 8: put you on treatment and we get you on a

838
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 8: care plan. So if you can sneak in one round

839
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Speaker 8: of IVF, so one shot to get eggs within that

840
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 8: two weeks, we'll let you do it. But it was

841
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 8: super controversial seven years ago, like my fertility doctor and

842
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 8: my oncologists were fighting, and I got off the meds,

843
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 8: then I went back on the meds.

844
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Speaker 7: Then I got off the meds, and I went back on.

845
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Speaker 8: And I'm just grateful that we were able to get

846
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Speaker 8: four and a half, which fertility science blows my mind.

847
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Speaker 8: But from the four and a half eggs, once they

848
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Speaker 8: were fertilized, we were able to get two healthy embryos.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we have Morgan here in the studio,

850
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: but just as exciting, we actually have the woman who

851
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: is making this baby journey possible for you. I'm gonna

852
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: let you introduce her because this is a really special

853
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get emotional, special and beautiful relationship that the

854
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: two of you have. But I really would like for

855
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: you to introduce to our listeners this incredible woman who

856
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: is changing your life.

857
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, she is truly one of my guardian angels. Prior

858
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 7: to her, my husband and I.

859
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 8: Actually had two match breaks that were just devastating on

860
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Speaker 8: this sergacy journey, and I remember just getting those quiet

861
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 8: moments with Bob and just being like she's around the corner.

862
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Speaker 7: She's around the corner.

863
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 8: And without further ado, I wanted to introduce Sarah from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 7: She is amazing.

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Speaker 8: I will let her kind of share a little bit

866
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Speaker 8: about maybe why she kind of put her name in

867
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Speaker 8: the hat too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Sarah, welcome to the podcast, and congratulations and thank

869
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: you for what you're doing. And this isn't your first

870
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: time being a Sarahgate for a breast cancer patient. Which

871
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: is just a remarkable thing. You're a registered nurse, you're

872
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: a mom yourself, tell us, tell us why you're doing this.

873
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I first started nursing, I actually met

874
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: a nurse that was a second time, Sarahgate, and I

875
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: remember just thinking to myself like, wow, like what a gift.

876
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: I absolutely love being a mom, and to be able

877
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: to share that with somebody that isn't able to accomplish

878
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: that the traditional way would just be such a blessing

879
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: to myself. So in a way, it was like a selfish,

880
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: like I want to do this to help somebody kind

881
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: of thing. And then the first time I did it

882
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: was back in twenty twenty, and I remember laying there

883
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: with my husband and I'm like, hey, remember when we

884
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: first started dating and I said that this was going

885
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: to be a thing that I do. He's like yeah.

886
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: It was like one thirty in the morning. I'm like, okay,

887
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: well I'm going to sign up now it's time and

888
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: he's like, all right, whatever whatever you do, like I'll

889
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: support you through it. And then kind of the same

890
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: second time around, it was the same little like intuition.

891
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: We were driving down one of our back roads here

892
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin right after we moved, and I'm like, hey,

893
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: I think it's time, like I'm ready to jump on

894
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: the journey again. And the feeling's right, So the timing's

895
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: got to be right there.

896
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 5: I have to I have to get into this a

897
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 5: little bit more, because, yes, what kind of human being

898
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: Like It's hard for most of us to fathom you

899
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: being willing to put yourself. It's not just a one

900
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 5: off thing, and it happened. It takes a week in

901
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: you are putting yourself, your body, your entire family, your household,

902
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 5: through your family, you have a family of your own,

903
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 5: You're putting everybody has to be along that journey. I

904
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 5: don't completely comford that type of human being, to be

905
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: honest with you, I just.

906
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: Don't get what it is about you.

907
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: And you even told your husband now now husband, when

908
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 5: you were dating that you were thinking about this. I

909
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 5: am still trying to understand if you can help expound

910
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 5: a little bit helpless and me, I just don't get

911
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: or you just built this way, or because this is

912
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 5: such a sacrifice and to get your entire family to

913
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 5: go along with the sacrifice seems just like a huge

914
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 5: mountain to climb.

915
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: You know what, I have always been like just a

916
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: helper by nature. That's kind of how I've always been.

917
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 6: You can help somebody move, Sarah, Well, you know.

918
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: What, Like I said, the greatest gift that I think

919
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: I was ever given was the chance to be a mom.

920
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: And I think that anybody who wants that chance should

921
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: be allowed to have it, like regardless of a diagnosis

922
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: that stops them from doing it the traditional way. So

923
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: if I can help, like, yeah, sign me up, let's

924
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: figure it out, let's make a plan. And then my

925
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: family is kind of the same way. I just with

926
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: my daughter. I told her, I'm like, hey, this is

927
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: this is something that I'm going to do. And actually

928
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: she was so mad. She was like, but I want

929
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: a sibling, Like this isn't this isn't okay. And so

930
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: we had to have a conversation like no, sweetheart, like

931
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: mommy is not going to bring any more babies into

932
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: our lives, but I want you to be a part

933
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: of bringing babies into other people's lives. And she was

934
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: a huge part in my first and my second journey.

935
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: She actually came out the for the first journey when

936
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: we met the couple and we did the medical screening

937
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: and then she gave me majority of my shots throughout

938
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: both of the journeys, So she was like super supportive

939
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: there and she's just she loves to brag about it.

940
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: She is remarkable herself.

941
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know, can you put into words what

942
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Sarah is giving you and what it was like to

943
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: meet her and to know that this woman is completing

944
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: your life and your family.

945
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 8: Just going straight forward, Amy, No, I can't put it

946
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 8: into words. This was something that I never thought would

947
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 8: be an option for my husband and I. Once we

948
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 8: got diagnosed, it was like, oh, a figment of our

949
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 8: imagination or that would be nice, honey, but no, we've

950
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 8: got to focus on you. And it's just the greatest

951
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 8: gift of all time to be able to become parents.

952
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: What was it like when you met Sarah in person?

953
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Because I know you guys have met face to face.

954
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: In fact, you were just on a zoom doctor's appointment

955
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: with her.

956
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, Oh, Sarah's awesome. I mean when we met,

957
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 8: we met them in New York, so her and her

958
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 8: husband flew out and they came for the screening at

959
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 8: Cornell and we did sushi and we just had a

960
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 8: blast and it was like meeting old friends, but also

961
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 8: a very weird dinner conversation because you're like, I know

962
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 8: everything about you because you're given profiles.

963
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 7: Of each other.

964
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 8: But it was a really, really blessing to meet Sarah live.

965
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 8: And then obviously I've met her kids through FaceTime as well,

966
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 8: and we've got a trip planned with her daughter. We're

967
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 8: gonna go make some baby quilts in Texas with my mom.

968
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: Wow, Sarah, Well, first of all, how are you feeling?

969
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: And you just had the doctor's visit today, So what's

970
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: the latest. What are you hearing about little baby baby Morgan.

971
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: We don't have a name for the baby girl yet,

972
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: or at least it's not being revealed yet, but tell

973
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: us what the doctor's visit's like and how you're doing.

974
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm feeling great, other than I've caught a cold

975
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: from my nine year old that so lovingly shared it,

976
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: so I'm fighting that a little bit, but really feeling good.

977
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: Like the second trimester is treating me very well. Baby

978
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: girl is super strong in there. I think she is

979
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: the strongest baby that I've carried. She kicks hard, she

980
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: kind of she's feisty. It's kind of funny because like

981
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: the ultrasounds that we've gone to and even just today

982
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: at the appointment, the doctor was trying to find her

983
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: heartbeat and she's got the doppler on my belly and

984
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: little girls just moving around the whole time. Like she

985
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: was like, no, I was comfortable. I don't want you

986
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: poking at me. Yeah, So she's feisty in there is

987
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 2: this kind.

988
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: Of a dating situation to where you all had to

989
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 5: make sure you were write for each other. I know

990
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 5: from your in Morgan you make sure that she gets

991
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 5: screened and have to go through a lot, but also

992
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 5: for you, Sarah, did you have to make sure this

993
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 5: was someone in a family that you wanted to.

994
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: Be on board with.

995
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: Yes, So that is kind of something that I tell

996
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: other people that asked me about Sarah Gacy and like

997
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: what it's like, what would you recommend for like a

998
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: future Saragate. The relationship that you form is very strong

999
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: or it can be depending on what, like what you

1000
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: want what they want. So looking for a match is

1001
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: like it really is looking like for a relationship. I

1002
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: describe it sometimes as like a match dot Com, Like

1003
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: you have a profile, they have a profile. Then you

1004
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: interview each other and kind of decide like can we

1005
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: develop a relationship with them. And as soon as I

1006
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: opened up Bob and Morgan's profile, like I knew I

1007
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: had actually been sent to profiles that day and I

1008
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: was opening them both up at the same time. And

1009
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: as soon as I opened it up, I was like,

1010
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't even look at the other one because

1011
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: I just had this such a strong feeling that like,

1012
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: this was it, this was our match. And I read

1013
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: through the other one, and then I read through Bob

1014
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: and Morgan's and I called my husband over and I'm like, hey,

1015
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: you get to look at these two, but I think

1016
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: I've already made my decision.

1017
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 6: The same with you.

1018
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 5: How was it in picking her? And it can I asked,

1019
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: as well, is it I assume it's not a lot

1020
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 5: of people out there like Sarah. I sure there are some,

1021
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: but it can't be just the whole host of plethora

1022
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 5: of options necessarily out there. And then once you start

1023
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 5: whindling down and this person, how many options, how many

1024
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: Sarah's did you have to choose from necessarily once you

1025
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 5: got it down to a small number.

1026
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. So I went through an agency.

1027
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 8: I had another breast cancer patient actually love her she's

1028
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 8: like a day trader power broker and built out a

1029
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 8: full Excel spreadsheet. So I just took the three agencies

1030
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 8: that she liked the most and we interviewed them and

1031
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 8: spoke to them. So the agency served us several matches,

1032
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 8: and I think at the beginning I had mentioned a

1033
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 8: few match breaks. So Bob and I had matched with

1034
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 8: other women that we had liked and for various reasons.

1035
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 8: One was a family issue, one unfortunately was a breast

1036
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 8: cancer kind of pre diagnosis where she was diagnosed with dcis.

1037
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: She actually got the screening in order to become your

1038
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Sarahgate and found out then, yeah, I mean, and that's

1039
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: a remarkable thing to have happened totally.

1040
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 8: And so having both of those experiences, says I wrote

1041
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 8: back to our agency and I was like, we need

1042
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 8: to find.

1043
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 7: Somebody special, like super special.

1044
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 8: So then we were really open to working with somebody

1045
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 8: that had done this before.

1046
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 7: Because the two other women prior, while they were lovely,

1047
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 7: I just.

1048
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 8: Was like, I need somebody that I is like a

1049
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 8: ride or die, and I met that with Sarah.

1050
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: You say, ride or die, I'm curious the relationship is

1051
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: what it is now, what happens after the baby is

1052
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: born Morgan with Sarah, I hope she.

1053
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 7: Becomes an auntie.

1054
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm from the Midwest, so I'm like game

1055
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 8: on for you know, the cheese Kurds in the Wisconsin

1056
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 8: State Fair, like, we're coming to visit. I have two brothers,

1057
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 8: and so Sarah's just going to be added into the family.

1058
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: You don't have a sister, and so now you're gaining

1059
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: a sister of swords, Sarah. I mean, how you go

1060
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: into this, having this conversation ahead of time, how much

1061
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the parents to be are willing to have you and

1062
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: their lives or not? How important was that or is

1063
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: that to you, Sarah? When you take on a family

1064
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: and you just to do this.

1065
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: So for me, I felt like it would be a

1066
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: lot more difficult if the family didn't want to be

1067
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: involved afterwards. It would just feel very transactional. And that's

1068
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: not what I went into this for. I wanted to

1069
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: build a relationship. And my first journey ended with we

1070
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: have an extended family that lives in Boston, and I

1071
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: am very close with baby's mom. Actually reached out to her.

1072
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: She was super excited that I was going to be

1073
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: on this podcast, and the same thing that is It's

1074
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: the same thing that I want for Bob and Morgan

1075
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: and us is to have an extension of our family

1076
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: in New York or New Jersey, depending where they're at.

1077
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: And I think that I feel like I found that

1078
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: with Morgan. I absolutely would love to maintain our relationship

1079
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: and let it continue to grow and blossom. And I

1080
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: feel just very blessed to be a part of this.

1081
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: But I also know that going into this, that's that's

1082
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: their decision. If they want to continue that relationship afterwards,

1083
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: that's totally going to be up to them. And I

1084
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: think that that's also an important thing to know, Like

1085
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: being a surrogate, is there are boundaries like this is

1086
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: this is a family, Like they may decide that they

1087
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: they are busy and whatever and thank you so much

1088
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: for this gift, but that's it, and vice versa. You

1089
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: can have a whole you can gain a sister, which

1090
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: is what I hope that we will continue to let

1091
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: our relationship blossom and grow. And I would absolutely love

1092
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: to be an anti to a little buddy.

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00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, with so many tough stories out there, like

1094
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: this is such a beautiful one. Like I don't think

1095
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: people realize like how special this is until you've had

1096
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: to walk this road and when your options are gone

1097
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: and someone comes in like this, I mean, Sarah, it's

1098
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: just it's such I know, you know how beautiful it is,

1099
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: but my god, it's just I'm so happy to be

1100
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: able to I think people think of sarrogacy and they

1101
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: it sounds so clinical, but this is so personal and

1102
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: it's so emotional and it's and it's beautiful. Sarah, I

1103
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to this. Do you have a

1104
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: connection to breast cancer? The fact that you've now you're

1105
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: now a surrogate for the second woman who's dealing with

1106
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: breast cancer? Is that just coincidence or happenstance?

1107
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: I would say a little bit. I have always felt

1108
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: like a like a strong desire to try and do

1109
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: whatever I can to help like fight against that, whether

1110
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: it be like walking in a five k to help

1111
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: raise awareness. And I think another strong pool for me

1112
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: was they've had so much taken away from them that

1113
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: this is just one more thing and I just I

1114
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: feel like that's just so unfair and if I could

1115
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: make it a little bit better for them, I that's

1116
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: that's my draw to that. Right after my second journey

1117
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: I actually was pumping and donating milk, and I got

1118
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: to donate to a mom that found out she had

1119
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: breast cancer during her during her pregnancy, and I was

1120
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: able to get her through the last two months of

1121
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: her baby's first year of having breast milk available to them.

1122
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: So it's just I just feel like it's I think

1123
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: that's my draw is. I think it's just so unfair

1124
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: and something that's while men can get breast cancer too,

1125
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: like I think it's something very like, very female, and

1126
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: I just I think it's that That's just it. I

1127
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: just want to do whatever I can to help support

1128
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: something that was taken away unfairly.

1129
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Wow, TJ, you want to say out loud what you

1130
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: just said to Morgan because I was thinking it Sair.

1131
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 6: I I don't know of your I whispered it to her.

1132
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 5: I was trying to to have it on Mike, but

1133
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: as you were talking, I just lean over to Morgan said,

1134
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 5: where did you find this?

1135
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 6: Lady?

1136
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 5: Like, It's just I'm sorry. We deal in news. We're

1137
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 5: doing news every single day, and you are out there,

1138
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 5: plenty of you and folks like you are out there,

1139
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 5: and we, unfortunately all of us fail at night giving

1140
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: enough of a platform to folks to show that there

1141
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 5: are good folks. We know they're good folks. They live

1142
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 5: next door to us, we know that, but for some

1143
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 5: reason we highlight some of the most negative stories and

1144
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 5: it's just a relief and it just feels great to

1145
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 5: be able to This isn't a sad No breast cancer.

1146
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 6: It's supposed to. Yes, it's sad.

1147
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 5: It's taking lives and it's changed people's lives, But damn,

1148
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 5: this is not supposed to be a sad podcast right now.

1149
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 5: This is wonderful. And we love Sarah. We love Morgan here,

1150
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 5: and I didn't think about this until we started this,

1151
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 5: but we love her, and by extension, you are providing

1152
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 5: something to somebody we love that's going to extend our

1153
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 5: love and our family here. So for that, we say

1154
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 5: thank you, Sarah, and we hope to meet you at

1155
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 5: some point down the line.

1156
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I mean, I knew Morgan had said

1157
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: so many nice things about you, Sarah, and I had

1158
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: read your profile, and I you know, you were showing

1159
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: me things about her from the beginning, but I think

1160
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: you undersold it. I mean, this woman is a saint,

1161
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: This woman, Sarah should be canonized. I mean, I am

1162
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: blown away at your generosity and your I mean, we

1163
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: know nurses are the best. I mean, anyone who's ever

1164
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: battled any kind of sickness found themselves in a hospital

1165
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: know the value of nurses. I think a lot of

1166
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: people learn that during COVID as well. But my god, Sarah,

1167
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: you take it to a whole other level. I'm just curious.

1168
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: This is your second time? Is this your last time?

1169
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: Being as Sarah good? I mean, once is more than enough.

1170
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: Twice is remarkable. Are you done at this point?

1171
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: So? I have made a clause where this would be

1172
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 2: my last journey unless Bob and Morgan or the other

1173
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: family decide they want siblings, I would carry for them again.

1174
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: But finding a new family and building that whole relationship again.

1175
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: My heart is so full with the two families that

1176
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: I will absolutely help them continue to grow their families.

1177
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: But that would that would be it for me.

1178
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 6: Wow.

1179
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's still a very remarkable offer. Morgan.

1180
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're like, yeah, I know her, duh.

1181
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: I've been telling you about her, But to hear her

1182
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: say that, and I know she said that's you just

1183
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, can you I asked before can you put

1184
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: into words? But that's I don't have.

1185
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: Words to say.

1186
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 8: How remarkable that is, Saint Hood you said it, But

1187
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 8: I just I hope that we can get to that

1188
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 8: point to do siblings. My siblings and my family are

1189
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 8: everything to me, and I know that we would want that.

1190
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 8: But again, with breast cancer and with all this stuff,

1191
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 8: it's one step that it's time and it might just

1192
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 8: be one baby and that's okay.

1193
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and right now you're painting that room pink. I

1194
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: love to hear that, you know. And I was telling

1195
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Morgan Sarah, I don't know if you follow this at

1196
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: all either, but kind of cool. Just recently, Olivia Munn,

1197
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: we all know she was diagnosed with breast cancer, but

1198
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: she just announced the birth of her baby daughter via asarrogate.

1199
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: So you're starting to hear these stories where there is

1200
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: so much hope about how long you can live, how

1201
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: well you can live, that this is now possible. I

1202
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: don't remember hearing that much about this or these types

1203
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: of stories even five years ago, certainly not ten years

1204
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: ago when I was diagnosed, or eleven years ago at

1205
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: this point. So the advances and the advanced mins that

1206
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: have been made to allow this to be possible for

1207
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: so many different reasons. Is such a sign of hope

1208
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: and there is ho Do you feel hopeful, Morgan.

1209
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 8: I'm super hopeful. I know that I'm going to make

1210
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 8: it to my daughter's graduation. I know that I'm going

1211
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 8: to make it to our wedding, and after that, you

1212
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 8: know I'll send her on her way.

1213
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 7: But I've never been filled with such hope.

1214
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 8: They're now looking at stage four breast cancer like it's

1215
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 8: ra or ms, and you go in for your infusions

1216
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 8: and you learn to live with it. It is tough,

1217
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 8: but I can't wait to have a baby in my

1218
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 8: arms and have one more thing and one more child

1219
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 8: to be fighting for my life, to stay alive and

1220
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 8: really live on to help.

1221
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: Her as well. TG. I know you probably weren't surprised

1222
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: to hear when Sarah described what baby girl Odell was

1223
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: like in utero, kicking, moving around a lot, high energy, just.

1224
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 6: To be still.

1225
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 5: Morgan, Please, I thought I had the wrong friend when

1226
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 5: you first introduced me to her. I'm like, which one

1227
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 5: was the one you said had metastatic because it was not, Morgan.

1228
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 5: She's got more energy anybody in the damn room. You

1229
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 5: are the most. I always say it. You're the most upbeat, positive,

1230
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 5: happiest person I have ever been around. Is not despite anything.

1231
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: If nobody had any clue but you were going through,

1232
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 5: they would say that about you. And it's just it's

1233
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 5: always remarkable. And now here Sarah is and at all

1234
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 5: everything is coming together, everything matches. This is wonderful. Looking

1235
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 5: forward to graduation, siblings, This is just hopeful. So it's

1236
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 5: a breast cancer episode, yes, but man, there is so

1237
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 5: much hope and so many stories like yours.

1238
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 6: Morgan. I just you are remarkable in this one. Here,

1239
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, is Sarah? This?

1240
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 5: Sarah Lady? Where'd you get this one? This is absolutely unbelievable.

1241
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 5: So Sarah, really we hope to meet you. No, we

1242
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 5: will meet you at some point down the road, for sure,

1243
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 5: But this is just wonderful to finally get to see

1244
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: you and talk to you face to face in this way,

1245
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 5: at least via zoom today.

1246
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: Sarah, we cannot thank you enough for what you're doing

1247
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: for one of our very best friends in the world

1248
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: and her husband, Bob, whom we love. And we're going

1249
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: to run the Chicago Marathon with actually in a couple

1250
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: of weeks. Yes, so we love Morgan and Bob and

1251
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: we can't wait to meet the little one that you're

1252
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: carrying with Sarah. Again, we can't thank you enough for

1253
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing for her and being on a podcast

1254
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: and spreading this important message that there are possibilities, there

1255
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: is hope. There is so much love out there, and

1256
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: sometimes it happens and it's learned from something as terrible

1257
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: as cancer. But there are good things that come out

1258
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: of bad situations, and this is clearly one of them.

1259
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 5: Can I ask both of you all and has to

1260
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 5: be talked about. I don't want to act like it's

1261
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 5: not there, but should this be a thing that's available

1262
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: to more women dealing with breast cancer? And that we

1263
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 5: have to be real here. This is for a lot

1264
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 5: of folks cost prohibitive, right. There's cost involved in everything

1265
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 5: you were doing before you even met up with a surrogate.

1266
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 5: What can you say to folks, or to the industry,

1267
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 5: or to even a health insurance company, what should we

1268
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 5: be doing to make sure something like this is an

1269
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 5: option for more people?

1270
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 8: Sarah, I'd love your take as a nurse, specifically for

1271
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 8: me on the patient's side, is I'm thankful during COVID,

1272
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 8: my husband and I were able to live in the

1273
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 8: cat Skills and live well blow our means to safe

1274
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 8: and I wish that insurance covered more, especially with a

1275
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 8: breast cancer diagnosis. If I were able to prove that,

1276
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 8: I wish they would have covered more of my journey

1277
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 8: in fertility and sergacy and agencies are expensive, they're lawyers,

1278
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 8: they're different, you know, program people that you're all paying for,

1279
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 8: So it makes sense. And ultimately, like Roebek said, she'd

1280
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 8: mentioned Cash's king and there's a solution. So there are

1281
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 8: lots of different organizations that you can donate to grant programs.

1282
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 7: But I don't think it's enough.

1283
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 8: And if more and more young women are getting diagnosed

1284
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 8: with breast cancer, which we know unfortunately is on the rise,

1285
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 8: it's only going to be kind of the next layer

1286
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 8: of advocacy required.

1287
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: Then I agree wholeheartedly with everything that Morgan said. I

1288
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: don't think that people should be limited in their options

1289
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: to grow their families just based off of their income

1290
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: or their insurances. Luckily, this time around, like my insurance

1291
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: happened to be surrogacy friendly, but the last time around

1292
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: it was not. And to know that it costs like

1293
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars for me to have my

1294
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: own child and an astronomical amount of money to deliver

1295
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: someone else's. Like, nothing was different during my prenatal care.

1296
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: It was all the same, So why why the differential?

1297
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: Wow? That is that is significant? I mean, and this

1298
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: is the good news is more people are being diagnosed

1299
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: earlier and more women are living longer, and so this

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Speaker 1: is going to be something that we continue to talk

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Speaker 1: about and getting your story out there, Morgan, getting Sarah's

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Speaker 1: beautiful story out there hopefully will raise awareness, get people talking,

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Speaker 1: because this is something among the many things we need

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Speaker 1: to do when it comes to funding breast cancer, not

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Speaker 1: just it's not just about early detection. It's not just

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Speaker 1: about treatment, but it's about how we live and how

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Speaker 1: we're able to live and live longer in better lives. Sarah,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being on the podcast. We really appreciate

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Speaker 1: it was an honor, an honor to meet you and

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Speaker 1: Morgan love you so much. Can't wait to be an aunt.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a sister either, so I

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Speaker 1: always will consider you mine and your little girl she's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like an amy. Enough already enough, like stop,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to spoil the heck out of her

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait. So remember any of you out

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Speaker 1: there who were listening, if you have her too positive

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Speaker 1: breast cancer, if you have an estrogen positive cancer, if

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Speaker 1: your doctor told you as mine did to me, that

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Speaker 1: you are out of the baby making business when you

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Speaker 1: are diagnosed, Sarah GAC can be a viable option for you.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have one of those types of cancers,

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Speaker 1: you may want to explore IVF or even natural conception.

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Speaker 1: Those are very possible with certain types of breast cancer,

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Speaker 1: so it's always important to ask your doctor what your

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Speaker 1: options are and consider them before you start treatment. There

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Speaker 1: are so many paths to parenthood, and it's important to

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Speaker 1: make sure you ask and find out which one works

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Speaker 1: best for you. Thank you all so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us for this very special episode in honor of Breast

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Speaker 1: Cancer Awareness Month. We want to extend our heartfelt thanks

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Speaker 1: to our remarkable guests Morgan, Sarah, and Nicole Eggert for

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Speaker 1: sharing their powerful stories and inside. Sometimes it is tough

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Speaker 1: to be vulnerable. It is tough to tell your story,

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Speaker 1: but it makes such a difference, and I really want

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Speaker 1: to thank these women for putting their heart on the

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Speaker 1: line and for letting you all into and become a

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Speaker 1: part of their story. Because remember, breast cancer today is

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Speaker 1: not what it was in the past. There are so

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Speaker 1: many advancements in personalized, specialized treatments. Of course we've talked

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Speaker 1: about and we'll continue to talk about early detection because

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Speaker 1: that saves lives, and then supportive care. Every woman out there,

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Speaker 1: every man out there who has breast cancer needs support.

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Speaker 1: And we are seeing improved survival rates and improve quality

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Speaker 1: of life for so many breast cancer patients and that

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Speaker 1: is something to applaud and to celebrate. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to remind all of you out there please remember,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately you have to be your own advocate in some ways,

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Speaker 1: and you need to have open conversations about breast cancer

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Speaker 1: to help remove this stigma. We need to talk about

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Speaker 1: these things so we can learn about these things, so

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Speaker 1: that we can educate ourselves and the women and the

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Speaker 1: people around us who we love. And part of advocating

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Speaker 1: for yourself is educating yourself. So just please ask questions,

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Speaker 1: be curious, bring someone with you to help ask those

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Speaker 1: very important questions about what your options are when you're

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Speaker 1: meeting with doctors, because one decision has an impact on

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Speaker 1: the next one. When you're dealing with treating breast cancer,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to take in, but there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of information out there and there is so much support.

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Speaker 1: So for more information, for more support, here are a

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Speaker 1: couple places you can visit. You can visit organizations like

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Speaker 1: the National Breast Cancer Foundation, breast cancer dot org, or

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Speaker 1: even the American Cancer Society. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say one of my favorites, I am an ambassador for

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Speaker 1: this organization. I'm a huge fan of this organization for

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Speaker 1: the work they do in trying to end breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: That is a BCRF Breast Cancer Research Foundation. That is

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Speaker 1: another incredible source for any of you out there for

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Speaker 1: looking for more information. But the bottom line, together, we

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Speaker 1: can all make a difference.