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Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is the j Envy Jess, hilarious,

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Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy we are to Breakfast clublow on the

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Speaker 2: roster filling in for jests. We got some special guests

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Speaker 2: joining us this morning. We got us representative of Ocanna

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Speaker 2: from California and we got jay A. Moore from South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Well fal Carolina state representatives.

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Speaker 3: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: How y'all feeling to say?

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Speaker 4: Great to be on, to be here. You guys have

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Speaker 4: gone next level in terms of your show.

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Speaker 5: We've been working, working, you know, it's interested in every

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Speaker 5: election season. You know, we get we you know, we're

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Speaker 5: a stop for people. So I guess that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Great deal.

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Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was on, as you may remember, a

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Speaker 4: couple of years ago when the during the pandemic. But

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Speaker 4: since then, I think, uh, you know, people in the

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Speaker 4: mainstream media now have figured out that they've got to

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Speaker 4: come on this show and they're listening absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So what do you guys think about the rally over

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Speaker 2: the weekend in New York and Madison Square Guard What

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Speaker 2: were your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, you know, Maya Angelo once said that

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Speaker 4: words are things, and you've got to be careful about

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Speaker 4: how you use words.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm a.

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Speaker 4: Free speech person, but that doesn't mean old speech is

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Speaker 4: good speech. And we teach our kids to be thoughtful

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Speaker 4: about how they use words because of respect. We have

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Speaker 4: had this situation in this country that if you think

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Speaker 4: something is funny, that somehow that's a license to insult people.

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Speaker 4: Just because something is funny doesn't mean that you can

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Speaker 4: denigrate people based on their race and gender and just say.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, I was just making a joke. I thought

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Speaker 4: Attacks on racial groups in the context of a political

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Speaker 4: rally was horrendous and someone needs to say, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: you can have humor, but not everything in this country

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Speaker 4: can be justified just because it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was bad politics.

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Speaker 5: It's like, you know, a week before the election, you know,

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Speaker 5: and you know you you're gonna need Latino people, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna need Black people, you're gonna need you Ash people.

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Speaker 5: You just put somebody up there to insult them. It's

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Speaker 5: kind of crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it's just another misstep by

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Speaker 7: It didn't make sense.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why you would, you know, would all

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Speaker 6: due respect I'm a Knicks fan, with all due respect

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Speaker 6: to New York, why you would do a rally in

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Speaker 7: It was a terrible move on this part.

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Speaker 1: What's the stop Wall Street, Landlord, leg bro.

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Speaker 4: You know what's going on right now is private equity.

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Speaker 4: These big companies. They're buying up single family homes, and

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Speaker 4: doing that, they're making the prices of these homes go up,

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Speaker 4: and they're making the prices of rents go up. And

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Speaker 4: you're in my tax dollars or subsidizing them. So this says,

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Speaker 4: up giving them a subsidy. You shouldn't have Wall Street

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Speaker 4: And by the way, they're doing them largely in black

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Speaker 1: And so what are you all trying to stop?

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Speaker 3: Exactly stops the subsidies.

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Speaker 4: So right now, Freddie mac Fanny May basically finance their

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Speaker 4: Mack and Fanny May are giving them subsidized loans with

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Speaker 4: subsidies for them. The reason it started is after the

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Speaker 4: It's one of the two things we could do, the

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Speaker 3: The other is to build more housing.

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Speaker 5: If you stop Wall Street from doing it, how do

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a big, big question.

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Speaker 4: Why home ownership has gone down. The biggest source of wealth.

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Speaker 4: You know, home ownership is about sixty two percent in

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Speaker 3: One, you need to.

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Speaker 4: Build more homes so that you can bring the price down.

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Speaker 4: But you know the bottom line is you got to

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Speaker 4: And one of the reasons I wanted to come on

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Speaker 3: We've got to create those.

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Speaker 4: High paying jobs in many other parts of America.

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Speaker 3: For you look at the bulk of wealth.

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Speaker 4: They've created a program seventy one percent placement rate, eighteen

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Speaker 4: different technology skills. It doesn't even require coding. We've got

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Speaker 4: to create more opportunities for people to actually build wealth

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Speaker 4: in a modern economy. That's how they're going to be

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Speaker 2: What what's your thoughts on you know, some people believe

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Speaker 2: Give them the tax benefits because if not, they can

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Speaker 3: They should be taxed?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, we're producing in my district more wealth

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Speaker 4: certainly you can tax the stock buybacks that they engage

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Speaker 4: the basic things healthcare, education, childcare. But here's and that's

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Speaker 4: what Kamala Harris wants to do. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Just taxing the wealth is not enough. Just taxing and

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Speaker 4: fine with black people, with Lataino people being users of technology.

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Speaker 4: You know, all of the clips you have, they go viral,

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Speaker 4: weren't for the creators of content. But where are they

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Speaker 4: Where are they at venture capitalists? I taught at Stanford.

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Speaker 4: My kids used to get funding before they had an idea.

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Speaker 4: You know why, because they had the right email address,

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Speaker 4: just like I had to fight to get on this show,

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Speaker 3: You got to know the right people.

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Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people have to fight to get

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Speaker 4: why am I passionate about this because when the Indian

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Speaker 4: there's a deep tie. Mordecai Johnson from Howard University went

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Speaker 4: And it leads to not just the Civil Rights Act,

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Speaker 4: You know who hires the Indian American community when we

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Speaker 4: I'm a product of the Civil Rights moan. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: What is the endowment of Stanford University where I taught?

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Speaker 4: They've produced thurgand Marshall, They've produced Kamala Harrison. What is

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Speaker 4: the endowment of all hundred of those HBCUs combined?

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Speaker 3: Four billion?

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Speaker 4: One? Has Stanford produced Martin Luther King? Has it produced WB?

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Speaker 4: Now they got forty billion dollars? The HBCUs have four

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Speaker 4: and then they're wondering, why is it that we don't

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Speaker 4: have economic opportunity in this country. So my view is, yes,

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Speaker 4: you got a tax the people. It's a valley, but

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Speaker 4: we need massive economic investment in these HBCUs, in in

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Speaker 4: young people to give them an actual opportunity.

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Speaker 3: To build wealth.

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Speaker 5: Biden Harris providing additional additional funding of seventeen billion.

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Speaker 4: They did, they did, but it was one time. It

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Speaker 4: was an American rescue plan. And that's one of the

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Speaker 4: things I think the Vice President needs to talk more about.

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Speaker 3: And she has, you know that, But it was one time.

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Speaker 4: Why can't we have ten billion dollars a year for

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Speaker 3: You know what we do?

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Speaker 4: We say, Oh, you're not at our one school, research

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Speaker 4: one school, Well how are you going to be in

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Speaker 4: research one school?

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Speaker 1: You don't have a resource.

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Speaker 3: Well you don't have the resource.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, though, right, So I

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Speaker 2: That's my only problem when I hear some of these things,

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Speaker 8: Especially too, because a lot of times in those situations,

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Speaker 2: So what do you say to those people are saying like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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Speaker 4: I think we should have an exemption for passing down

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Speaker 4: you got these multi billionaires in my district in Silicon Valley.

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Speaker 4: We're going to shift the tax burden to the multi

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Speaker 4: point to you, and look, I'm all for home ownership.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, okay, And that's one of the reasons I'm

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Speaker 6: The work that Roe and I are working on, there's

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Speaker 6: It works for girls from eight to twenty two, black girls,

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Speaker 6: Is a program that we're starting out in Charleston, branches

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Speaker 7: Especially especially for our community.

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Speaker 6: I mean, uh, sometimes we're like first time homeowners and

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Speaker 7: We need to invest in that.

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Speaker 5: I agree, you know, it's interesting, right, because that's why

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Speaker 5: I like the Vice President's Opportunity Economy plan, because that's

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Speaker 1: That's those the type of conversations that she's been having.

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Speaker 5: And it always it bugs me out right because for

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know why that's the narrative, but that's

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Speaker 1: Why isn't that messaging out there more?

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Speaker 4: I know, I've heard you say this a number of times,

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Speaker 3: Is just look at the philosophy.

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Speaker 5: Eleven recessions, ten of them have been Republican presidents.

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Speaker 6: I think the problem to the saying, I think a

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Speaker 1: It was it was a decisive yeah it was.

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Speaker 6: It was the Democratic Congress, Roll Connors, so many others

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Speaker 7: And all he did was sign his name on the

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Speaker 1: Good market.

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Speaker 4: But you look at it, you're unless, say you're twenty

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: What what is Donald Trump? Actually?

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Speaker 4: what is he actually offering? So he's going to give

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Speaker 4: you tax cuts if you've already made it, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: you're in my district. You got a job already making

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Speaker 3: He's going to cut your taxes. He's going to deregulate.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is profiling too, though,

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Speaker 1: The Republican parties. And I think they taught business a

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Speaker 8: Well, that's because we've been we've been. Sorry to cut

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Speaker 8: a lot of our households too, Like we always are

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Speaker 6: And they have this fake narrative that somehow the Democratic

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Speaker 6: Party is going to take away there there there, They're

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Speaker 6: they're gonna pay more taxes under Democrats, and that you

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Speaker 6: know that inflation hasn't actually settled under this current administration.

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Speaker 7: And so I'm having these conversations to.

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Speaker 6: Like, actually look at the policy, not what you're seeing

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Speaker 6: on on acts.

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Speaker 7: So what you're reading, like you know, reading on these

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Speaker 7: blogs or YouTube, and.

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Speaker 6: What they don't realize is that a lot of that

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Speaker 6: stuff is like this disinformation is like targeting specifically young

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Speaker 6: black men to like be apathetic and not vote or

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Speaker 6: or thank somebody that the Democratic Party aren't supporting us,

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Speaker 6: which which we have been or listening you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean, and listen to or talking to language that

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Speaker 6: we need to hear.

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Speaker 5: How do y'all feel? What we what do we a

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Speaker 5: week away from election day? How do you feel?

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Speaker 4: I'm hopeful, I'm optimistic. I think that you know, I

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Speaker 4: I believe the young people are going to come out.

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Speaker 3: And vote for for Harris.

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Speaker 4: I think this thing is overblown in terms of uh,

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Speaker 4: just that you would know more of about the black

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Speaker 4: vote Latino vote. I mean, I don't A lot of

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Speaker 4: the men I meet they're voting for her Black men

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Speaker 4: and a lot of Latino men are voting for her.

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Speaker 4: So I think that there she's going to win the

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Speaker 4: the Michigan Pennsylvania. Uh, it's gonna be close. But I

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Speaker 4: think the polls actually are underestimating her support. And you know,

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Speaker 4: you made a great point about this image of why

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Speaker 4: is it that we think traditionally of the Republicans as

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Speaker 4: the business party, because that's that's all that Donald Trumb's

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Speaker 4: running on. You know, frankly, if he had never had

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Speaker 4: a pre he never would have been president. Hates not

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Speaker 4: enough to become president. I mean, the Madison Square Garden

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Speaker 4: stuff wasn't enough. It's because he had fourteen years in

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Speaker 4: people's living rooms as being this business guy and the

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Speaker 4: Trump sign, and I think we've got to be Look

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Speaker 4: all the new Wealth, the technology, the innovation, all of

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Speaker 4: that's not being creating by the old class. It's a

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Speaker 4: whole new generation. It's a whole new group of entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 4: I consider you guys entrepreneurs. If that's the new Wealth,

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Speaker 4: that's the new innovation. And I fundamentally believe that's when

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris say issues for the future, that's what she represents.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the image that's going to prevail.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's going to come down.

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Speaker 6: And maybe I'm biased something from South Carolina, but I

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Speaker 6: think if we win North Carolina and we win Georgia,

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Speaker 6: we win. And I've had the pleasure of traveling. I

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Speaker 6: just got back from Nevada. I mean, I feel cautiously optimistic.

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Speaker 6: And everywhere I'm going, I mean, I'm in the uberb

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Speaker 6: and people is much. The more Donald Trump talks and

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Speaker 6: that's crazy stuff like he did here in New York,

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Speaker 6: the better Kama has has some I mean, I think

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Speaker 6: I feel good about it. I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

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Speaker 5: It's just interesting to me that, you know, with all

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Speaker 5: of the things Trump is that I don't even need

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Speaker 5: to run down his whole resume, but when I just

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Speaker 5: look at two impeachments, eighty eight criminal charges, thirty four

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Speaker 5: he was convicted of, to me, that alone should be disqualified, Like,

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Speaker 5: why isn't there anything that legally that prevents him from

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Speaker 5: even being on the ballot. I know they got the

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Speaker 5: the the section three of the fourteenth Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court shot that down.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I put up the Congress.

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Speaker 4: The people who let him off the hook were Mitch

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Speaker 4: McConnell and Kevin McCarthy. I remember telling to Kevin McCarthy

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Speaker 4: after we impeached Donald Trump in the House, and I said,

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Speaker 4: and Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell are telling you about

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Speaker 4: how terrible it was what he did and six and

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Speaker 4: I said, well, this is the reason we've got to

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Speaker 4: convict him in the Senate. And I said, oh, Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump's done, He's not coming back. His numbers were thirty

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Speaker 4: percent in the polls.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 4: They didn't think he would ever come back.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And they let the guy off the hook in terms

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Speaker 4: of if they had convicted him back then, he wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have been able to run. And it was the biggest error.

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Speaker 4: And I blamed the Senate for not having the guts

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Speaker 4: back then to convict him. But this point in the media,

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Speaker 4: which I've heard you make a number of times, is

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Speaker 4: absolutely right. I mean, no one they're asking Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: every detail of every plan. I'm fine, but no one

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Speaker 4: is pointing out the fundamental point of the convictions and

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Speaker 4: the illegality and the total shocking nature of Trump's candidacy.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I want to ask you about the Section three

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Speaker 5: or fourteenth A minment because the Supreme Court, you know,

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Speaker 5: they say it's not up to the state when the

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Speaker 5: States are trying to take him off to the ballot,

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Speaker 5: not after the States is up to Congress. Congress would

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Speaker 5: have never done that because it was a Republican led

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Speaker 5: Congress at the time, right.

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Speaker 4: Was a Republican led Congress at the time, and the

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Speaker 4: Senate would never have done it, and the Senate was

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Speaker 4: not even willing to convict him of the actual charges.

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Speaker 4: And they all thought, by the way, McConnell, you asked them,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll come out when their biographies. They all

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Speaker 4: thought that what Trump did was an impeachable offense and

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Speaker 4: convict them. But they said, why why should we upset

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Speaker 4: thirty percent off base because his numbers were down at

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Speaker 4: thirty percent? You know, why should we upset thirty percent

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Speaker 4: of our base when the guy's going to go away

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Speaker 4: anyway and we're going to have a new generation Nicky Haley.

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Speaker 4: Ron you remember Ron DeSantis was their big thing. They

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Speaker 4: all thought Ron DeSantis was going to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had written dot Trump off.

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Speaker 4: They thought Trump would go away quietly, and that's why

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Speaker 4: they didn't want to put their nexts out to upset

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Speaker 4: thirty percent of that base.

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Speaker 8: And now they think that because he never really went

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Speaker 8: away like he like Trump has always just been around

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Speaker 8: and doing things and same things. He never really went away.

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Speaker 4: I think it was naivete. I mean, they looked at

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Speaker 4: the poll numbers back then. Today Trump said forty five

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Speaker 4: forty six percent back then. You look at the pole

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Speaker 4: numbers right after January sixth, he was down at thirty

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Speaker 4: thirty two, thirty three percent.

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Speaker 8: But the fact that you would even have the power

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Speaker 8: to make a January sixth happen, you have to know

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Speaker 8: what you're dealing with, like he had. There's power in

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Speaker 8: numbers of people, and just by words, he did that.

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Speaker 8: So why would you think they're just going to disappear

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Speaker 8: and like take a nap while we fixed the world.

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Speaker 6: I think that's been the miscalculation of all of us

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Speaker 6: over the past almost ten years.

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Speaker 8: You Donald Trump, he thought he was gonna go away.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I think we I think we all,

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Speaker 6: we were all surprised that he even began president. And

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Speaker 6: I think we we we we too often have taken

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Speaker 6: him too lightly because he's a buffoon, and we say

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Speaker 6: it's no way, there's no way they're going to nominate him.

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Speaker 2: That he just waszman And I was at Hillary Clinton's

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Speaker 2: celebration party.

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Speaker 8: I knew, knew that.

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Speaker 1: I never believe there.

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Speaker 2: My kids were there, my family was there, And.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm scared to go next week, dress and everything.

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Speaker 5: I think I think the biggest problem is that nobody

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Speaker 5: treats Trump like the actual threat that he is. The

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Speaker 5: d J didn't treat him like that, the media doesn't

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Speaker 5: treat him like that, voters don't treat them like that.

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Speaker 5: And so it's just like, yeah, if there's no consequences

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Speaker 5: to your actions, what what are we supposed to do?

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Speaker 6: And I think we also take for granted, uh, the

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Speaker 6: segment of the population that he inspires.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And I'm you know, good people on.

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Speaker 6: That, but it's it's something about that sect that that

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Speaker 6: that thirty five percent that you're talking about, they're not

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Speaker 6: going anywhere. And if you have that kind of base,

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Speaker 6: especially going into a primary, you're I mean, you're well positioned.

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Speaker 6: And then so many other people of my colleagues, even

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Speaker 6: at the State House in South Carolina, just all keep

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Speaker 6: falling in line because they're so worried about their own

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Speaker 6: political futures and not about the country. And I think

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Speaker 6: all of us over these next what's seven eight days left,

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Speaker 6: we need to be aware of that.

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Speaker 7: And no one can sit home.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling all the brothers out there now that can

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Speaker 6: hear me, don't have a non vote, protest vote against

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Speaker 6: the Democratic Party. That we can't afford to do that

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Speaker 6: this time, and we just cannot afford to do it.

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Speaker 6: And after this election, whatever grievance you had, if you voted,

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Speaker 6: just you know, you know, and fail whatever, just take

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Speaker 6: it up with the elected officials and hold us accountable

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Speaker 6: once we get elected. Elect Kamala Harris on November fifth,

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Speaker 6: and then hold all of us accountable as elected Democrats.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's really my call for the brothers out

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Speaker 6: there that can hear me.

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Speaker 3: And the media is scary.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at all these people, these billionaires were

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Speaker 4: owning the newspaper Washington Polls. Yeah, suddenly they're saying that, well,

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Speaker 4: we may not want to endorse because Trump may win.

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Speaker 4: Now what is that vote in terms of the media

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Speaker 4: actually standing up to him if he wins. This is

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Speaker 4: the classic tactic of authoritarian leaders that they intimidate any dissent.

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Speaker 4: And it's not that people often wonder, well, how do

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Speaker 4: they get to power. It's not that people suddenly all

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Speaker 4: start rallying around them. It's that they get enough of

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Speaker 4: a base rallying around them, and they put enough fear

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Speaker 4: in everyone else to say, okay, we're gonna as long

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Speaker 4: as they don't come after us, we don't want to

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Speaker 4: get in the way.

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Speaker 2: All right, go out and vote, and we appreciate you

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Speaker 2: guys for joining us this morning, really do.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. You got an election coming.

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Speaker 6: Up too, right, Oh yeah, no, I'm on the ballot,

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Speaker 6: you guys. Jaymore stay representative.

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Speaker 2: Carolina South Carolina, and of course Representative.

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Speaker 4: I do too in California. And we got to win,

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Speaker 4: not just Mi set, we got to win four Democratic

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Speaker 4: House seats out of California to take back the majority

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Speaker 4: so we can have a Keem Jefferies as Speaker of

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Speaker 4: the House.

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Speaker 2: All right, well it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that.

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Speaker 1: Ass in the morning. The Breakfast Club