1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter. I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back everybody. Hopefully maybe 6 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: some of you out there have found some success, and 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: if you have, maybe you're wondering, now what do I 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: do with the skull and anurs. Maybe you aren't going 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: to mount it, but you want to present it in 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: an awesome way. So doing what's called the European mount 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: is a really popular option. Now, you can obviously take 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: it to attack. It must have it done. But for 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: those of you that might want to do it yourself, 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: or maybe you're traveling to another state. You've got something 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: and you can't bring brain matter back across state lines. 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: This week, I'm gonna give you some tips on how 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: to properly we'll call it boil out at elk Skull 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: or European and elk Skull, and then I'm gonna also 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: give you tips for transporting or traveling back home and 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: options that you might have that you don't have to 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: travel with brain matter, and you can do it yourself 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: without having to drop it off at attacks it or missed. 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I'm gonna tell you a 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: little bit of my journey when it comes to boiling 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: out skulls or cleaning up a big game skull. I've 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: definitely come a long way when it comes to cleaning 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: up skulls or doing a d I Y European mount. 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: Now you call a European mount, I think it's probably 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: just because you see those old school castles with a 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: bunch of skulls with the antlers on it. What I'm 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: talking about is just the skull and the antlers all attached, 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: not skull capping it, not cutting the top off. It's 33 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: just the whole skull clean up, often whitened in some 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: way and then hung up for display. My journey of 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: what I like to refer to it as boiling the skulls. 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that a little bit later on. 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: My journey of cleaning skulls or d I Y European 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: mounts started off a little rough. There wasn't a lot 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: of information on it, and I didn't really know what 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: I was doing, and because of it, I messed up 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: quite a few starting out, but over the years I've 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: done a lot. I've been very fortunate to travel to 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: many places where I actually have to clean up the 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: skulls before I bring them back, make sure there's no meat, 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: make sure they're they're taking care of properly, to get 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: everything back to wherever I'm you know, hunting from, and too. 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I got started in cleaning 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: up my own skulls. I used to just take them 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: to a tax it er missed and just started getting expensive, 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: and I thought, Okay, I'm just gonna try this myself. 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Can't be that difficult. It was fairly difficult because I 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: didn't really know what I was doing. So there's a 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: lot of trial and error. Over the years, I've done 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these. But when I first started out, 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I got a turkey frying pod. 56 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: I actually this elk school that I first started with 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: didn't work on that, so I ended up getting like 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: a big tub from Ace Hardware, putting it on the burner, 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: filling it up with water. I watched it, not knowing 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: how long it would take, and the first one actually 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: turned out pretty good. I ended up using a combination 62 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: of just regular hydrogen peroxide that you put on a 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: cut and white toothpaste to clean the skull up. But 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: over the years I found that that wasn't the best 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: solution or the best way. Now, this one particular, after 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I kind of started, my brother and my dad were 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: out hunting and our buddy Art, and Art ended up 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: shooting this bull and like it was a fairly far 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: shot and he ended up shooting it like right through 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the eye. So the bull dropped, and we thought, oh, 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: this will be a cool Like my dad got a 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: bull as well, So we're gonna boil out Arts school, 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: I think, my brother Jason's skull and my dad's school 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: and and we're gonna do it kind of like as 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: a as a Christmas gift, kind of like have this 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: all done from them. We have this whole idea of 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a write up with the 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: skulls and everything and kind of make it like a 79 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: nice Christmas gift. So my brother Jason and I were like, Okay, 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: let's do this. We kind of had a little bit 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: of a system at this point, and it was like, Okay, 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: these bulls are like this is like a special bull, 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: So we're gonna just do a really good job on it, 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: of course, but we also didn't really know like how 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: long to boil things whatever. So we had the skulls 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: in the pot and we start to boil going and 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: it's really cold this day, and it just seems like 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: it's taking forever. So we've got the fire cranked up 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: on the burner. We're doing things around the house and like, yeah, 90 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: you know. Jason's like, okay, I got this. We're good. 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: And then I leave and then something happened. Jason kind 92 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: of forgot about it ended up leaving as well. Later on, 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: we both kind of remembered, hey, you turned the pot off, right, 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I thought you turned the pot off. No, 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: I didn't turn the pot off. We're like, oh crap. 96 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: So we rushed back to the pot, and sure enough, 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: we left the thing on full burning for hours. Pretty 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Much all the water had evaporated out of the pot, 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: and now the antlers were leaning up against this metal, 100 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: giant pot and the skull as well, just cooking and burning. 101 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: It had pretty much burnt through all three Elk schools, 102 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: Like the antlers were barely on there, had burnt through 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: the pack. The skulls were now disintegrating in what was 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the left of a dry burning pot. And needless to say, 105 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: our European mounts are special Merry Christmas gift. Look what 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: we made you. We had just destroyed pretty much these 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: three awesome bull elk with a pretty good story attached 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: to it. Now, since that moment, I have taken a 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: lot more care and paid a lot more attention when 110 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: it comes to cleaning up and doing my own d 111 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I y European mount Now, whether you want to clean 112 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: a skull because you just want to hang it up 113 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: in your house, whether you have to because you're gonna 114 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: travel across state lines and can't bring any brain or 115 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: spinal material because the c w D rules, or maybe 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: you just think it's to say it's gonna be kind 117 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: of a fun project to do. I think, you know, 118 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: out of the animals that I take, most of them 119 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: might end up cleaning up the skulls, leaving the skull 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: hole and doing what I would consider a euro amount 121 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: on it. It's fun for me in some ways. It's 122 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: also just kind of like it looks nice and it's 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: it's a good way to display it hanging up and 124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of put it anywhere. It's actually becoming really popular 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: in home decore of these days. Even non hunters are like, oh, 126 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I'd really like you know, if you get an extra skull, 127 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: I'd really like that. Like now, the ones that I take, 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: I'm keeping for myself. But if I find one, you know, 129 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: maybe I'll clean it up, bleach it out for you 130 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: and maybe restain the horns or something deadhead or something 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, as hunters, I think many 132 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: non hunters don't really understand the fact that they're like, oh, 133 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you take the antlers or whatever, it's like this trophy. 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: But it's it's not. It's more than that. It's it's 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: looking at those memories. It's it's hanging up and making 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of a in my opinion, it's just kind of 137 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: a way to honor that animal and you look at it, 138 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: you remember that hunt, after the meats long gone, You've 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: got those antlers there, those horns, whatever, and you know, 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: it just helps bring that that adventure, that experience, that 141 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: everything back to life. And I and I really think 142 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: that it's kind of like part of being a hunter. 143 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: You know, you look at those and you understand it's 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: not something you can easily explain to someone else, but 145 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: I think that the European mount or you know, cleaned 146 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: out skull is a great way to showcase that animal. 147 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe you don't have room for a 148 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: shoulder mount or maybe whatever. It's just it's it's a 149 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: good way to do it. Now, before I start this podcast, 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: i'm gonna say that first off, I'm not a license 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: tax it, but I have done a lot of skulls 152 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: and many of them turn out really good. And that's 153 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: because I have kind of a little formula that I use. 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: It's probably not the best formula out there, but it 155 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: works for me and it will probably work for you. 156 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I think that expression there's more than one way a 157 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: skin of cat should be. There's more than one way 158 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: to euro amount a skull. Every time I do one, 159 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: somebody else offers up a better way to do it, 160 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: which is fine. I have tried hundreds of different tactics 161 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: and I just kind of found the one that works 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: for me, one that I think is the easiest, the fastest, 163 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: and has a good longevity or good life for the skull, 164 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: not drying out, not falling apart, not being too much 165 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: of a pain. So I'm going to give you kind 166 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: of my the way that I do it. I'll give 167 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: you also some other alternatives, some other options, because as 168 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: soon as I do this, people are gonna be like, well, 169 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: you should have just buried it in the backyard and 170 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: then hill. I've tried that, you know in the South, 171 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: it seems to work all right. There's certain animals I 172 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that with because you do that, the antlers 173 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: get bleed stout, paying on what it is, you know, 174 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: horns or antlers like it's just not a way that 175 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: works here, especially in the wintertime when everything's dormant, and 176 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: for most of the West, it's just not like a 177 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: feasible way. Also, when they're done the dirty and pretty greasy, 178 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: they don't really clean up well in my opinion. So 179 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: that's just not a way that I do. I've used 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: dermicital beatles before. Those are really good. What that is, 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: they're actually like scare a beetle larva or something like that. 182 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: The trouble with that is you've got to keep the 183 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: things alive. They stink really, really really bad if somebody 184 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: else has them. That right, there is the best way 185 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: to clean up your school, but it's a time investment. 186 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: It's you've got to have a box farm. You gotta 187 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: feed them continually. You have to have like heat lamps 188 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: in there and power, and you have to have just 189 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of rotting, nasty stuff. This stinks really bad. 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: They cannot express how bad those things stink. They are, 191 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best way to clean a school. 192 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: But they also are not the easiest, most feasible way, 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Like you can't travel with them. You can't. You know, 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: not everybody has them. You might live in a cold 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: climate there kind of could be difficult to keep alive 196 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: if your power goes out or whatever. There's just a 197 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of downside to him. But if somebody you know 198 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: has them or whatever, that's a great way. If you're 199 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna pay someone to do it, that's probably the best 200 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: option to do because it's going to come out probably 201 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the best. The way that I do it is I 202 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: call it boiling the skull, But you don't necessarily want 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: to boil it. Maybe it's just you know, you're putting 204 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: it in a pot of water. It's more of simmering 205 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: the skull. So I'm going to run you through some 206 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: of the things that I do, some of the stuff 207 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: that I put in the water, and then kind of 208 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: the way that I check to see if it's done, 209 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: and then the way that I clean it up afterwards. 210 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: An answer try to answer most of the questions that 211 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: I've got when I've been explaining this to other people, 212 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: and just the way that works for me. Whether I'm 213 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: traveling or whether i'm you know, at home, whatever. I've 214 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: got a little bit different set up when I'm at 215 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: home than when I'm traveling, but for the most part 216 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: is kind of the same. So let's start with the 217 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: items that you need first. You need something to boil 218 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: the water with. There's lots of options. I mean, I 219 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: use like a turkey deep friar most of the time 220 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: when I'm at home, but I've also done this just 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: over a camp fire in a pot. If you've just 222 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: got like a deer, you could do it in a 223 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: pot over the fire. It's cheaper, you don't have to 224 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: pay for propane. You can even do it on I've 225 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: done it in a stove in the house. I've done 226 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: the stove in other people's houses. Um, I've done it 227 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: on my Coleman camp stove, both out in the field 228 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: and in my backyard. One thing you want to think 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: about is, like I said before, I use water as 230 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: the way to clean it. I essentially kind of like 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: boil the meat off of it, but I try to 232 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: do it more lower temperature, where it's a simmer, where 233 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't go real hot and faster it might drive 234 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: that bone out. Now, some of the things that you 235 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: want to think about is, Okay, you're putting a skull 236 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: in the pot. You're going to clean up all the 237 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: meat off of it. You want to retain everything, because 238 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: if you overdo it, what's going to happen is the 239 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: bones of the skull will start to separate it everything 240 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: that holds it together. The teeth will fall out, the 241 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: pieces of the nose will fall out. Worst case scenario, 242 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean it can split at the antlers. Like there's 243 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: just a lot of things that can go wrong if 244 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: you overcook your skull. So what I do is I 245 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: first prepped the water. I have my pot and my 246 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: whatever fire source it's going to be in the water. 247 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I like to add baking soda, which is just or 248 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: sodium by carbonate. What that's gonna do is it actually 249 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: helps make the meat fall off of the skull. So 250 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I always added to the water. Another thing I've started 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: to add recently that I found works really well is 252 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: some form of degrease or for me that just happens 253 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: to be down dish soap because it's always available, super handy, 254 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: So two things that are pretty easy to find. Baking soda, 255 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: dish soap. There's a lot of other tactics, other things 256 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: you can do that make them wider or other things, 257 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: but this just seems to be an easy way that 258 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: works for me. And also, if you get a little 259 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: bit of the antler in the water, it's not going 260 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: to stain them white, so you don't really have to 261 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: worry about that. So fill up the water pot. Now, 262 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you have a pot 263 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: big enough where you can submerge the whole skull. It 264 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: can get very difficult for elk skulls. I've actually just 265 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: found like these garden tubs that I use, there's probably 266 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: better pots for this, Like if you actually found a 267 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: pot that's meant for boiling for deer and other things. 268 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: I just find like a big pot. Sometimes those turkey 269 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: frying pots are just a little too much water to 270 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: get going. But it's also good to have a lot 271 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: of water because it doesn't overheat too much as well. 272 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: Depending on what you're using is your heat source. So 273 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: I'll add my baking soda and then a little bit 274 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: of dish. So when I'm talking about a little bit dish, 275 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: so it would be like the amount that you would 276 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: put on your hands to wash your hands after something 277 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: that was just like you know, you're washing dishes and 278 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna wash your hands with a dish soap. That 279 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: much soap in a big pot of water, maybe like 280 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: one little squirt in like a smaller pot of water, 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a lot. As far as the 282 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: baking soda goes, I would say, like in a big pot, 283 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: probably two tablespoons. In a small pot, let's go one 284 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: table moon or half a tablespoon something like that. I 285 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: really just kind of wing it, you know, I've added 286 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot. Sometimes I've added a little. I found that 287 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: about two tablespoons seems to work pretty good for those 288 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: big pots like an elk skull and then you know 289 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: deer skull, like half a tablespoon to a tablespoon somewhere 290 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: in there. So now you're just gonna prep your your skull. 291 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: What I would say to do for that is one 292 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: thing that happens as it boils. You know, it's degreasing. 293 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: It's it's separating the fatty parts, the meats falling off, 294 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: and what happens is that kind of layer of fat 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: floats to the surface of the water. Now, if you've 296 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: got antlers in there, that fat's gonna stick to the 297 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: antlers and then you're gonna have to degrease the antlers later. 298 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you aren't boiling a deer an elk, you've got 299 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: an antelope. You know what I do with that is 300 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I put the whole antelope skull in there. I allow 301 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: it to get hot where I can then pull the 302 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: shees off, and then I will strip the bony part 303 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: that goes up into the shees, any meat or anything, 304 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: and then submerge that fully. The one thing you want 305 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: to think about is some way to keep that fat 306 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: out or if you've got maybe a good flame of 307 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: fire whatever, you don't want anything burning those antlers, like 308 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: my brother and I did. So what I started doing 309 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: with that is taking aluminum foil, and I'll prep the 310 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: skull by wrapping the antlers down at the bases with 311 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: this aluminum foil. It's really easy because it covers it up. 312 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's heatproof. It's fireproof as opposed to maybe 313 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: using plastic wrap or something like that. It works really well. Um, 314 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: so I do it enough to where everything that might 315 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: touch the pot is covered. Anything where maybe some flames 316 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: from fire might reach up and burn it. Maybe you're 317 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: camping and you need to clean out of school, whatever, 318 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: So I'll use that aluminum foil to protect the antlers. 319 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: And it also is really nice because it keeps them 320 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: clean from any of the fat that's in the top 321 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: of the water, so you don't really have to like 322 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: degrease them later. So it's just trying to keep it 323 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit easier, a little bit cleaner, still look nice. Now, 324 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: I'll submerge the skull in the water. I'll bring that 325 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: water almost to a boil, and then just kind of 326 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: let it simmer. Now, it's one thing you want to 327 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: keep checking it because it's sometimes hard to regulate that temperature, 328 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: so it might go up and boil for a little 329 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: bit and then just start dropping that temperature down a 330 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: little bit, or maybe add a little bit more cool water. 331 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: If you have it at a boil, let's just say 332 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: you gent, well, okay, I'm just gonna boil the thing, 333 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: which does work, and you'll get by with it. Teeth 334 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: might fall out if you don't catch it right. I 335 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: would say probably only take about three hours if you 336 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: were like straight up boiling it, maybe two hours. If 337 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: you're letting it simmer, it might take more like for 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: an elk school, five hours, for a deer school maybe 339 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: two and a half hour or something like that. So 340 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: you want to just keep constantly checking it. What you 341 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: want is the meat to start falling off the bone 342 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: as you pull it. Like imagine you slow cooked, like 343 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: pulled pork, a bone in shoulder and you're gonna shred 344 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: it off the bone and just starts falling off the bone. 345 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: That's what you want. When you've got that, now it's 346 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: ready to be pulled out of the water. So check it, 347 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, set a timer, check it every after the 348 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: first hour, every thirty minute or so, and you'll kind 349 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: of get a gauge on Okay, we've got a little 350 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: bit of time. The reason that I check it so 351 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: often is because I want to make sure that the 352 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: water is not getting too hot, keep it at that 353 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: below boil temperature, at that more similar level where it's 354 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: just hot water in there, and let it sit the 355 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: lower you can go, and the slower you can go, 356 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: the better it's going to be for the skull itself. 357 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: But also time constraints and you know, just the way 358 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: those burners work, and keeping things at that temperature can 359 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: be fairly difficult sometimes, So I just keep an eye 360 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: on it and constantly check it. Make sure that the 361 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: water level never gets too low. So if it gets low, 362 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: you can always add more hot water to it, or 363 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: even just add cool water and turn the temperature up 364 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: a little bit for a little while. Now. Once the 365 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: skull is ready to be cleaned, there's two methods. One 366 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: is you pick off what you can, and then the 367 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: second is cleaning it with water. So skulls the in 368 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: New Zealand or whatever, I've done these in a little 369 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: shed that I was staying at in the kitchen, sink 370 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, pulling all the meat off the skull, 371 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: picking all that off, and then trying to wash out 372 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: everything else I can with the sink. Better to use 373 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: a hose. What I do when I'm at home is 374 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: I use a pressure washer. I picked one up at 375 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: Costco that works really good. I think it was like 376 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty bucks, so it's cheaper than the price of paying 377 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: someone to do a skull for you, and it will 378 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: pay for itself because you can because you can wash 379 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: your car, in your house and whatever else you want 380 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: with it as well. I actually just use an electric 381 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: pressure washer because I found it easier. But there's small 382 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: gas powered ones that you can take with you if 383 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: you wanted somewhere. You know. I do have another pressure 384 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: washer that I got at eight that it's not so good, so, 385 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, just depends. You don't want to have the 386 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: pressure washer on too high p s. I. Because it 387 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: can just blow the skull apart. So you want to 388 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: find one of the tips that's kind of a good 389 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: mid range. You know, they generally come with different tips, 390 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: so you can kind of figure out, Okay, this one 391 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: does a lot of blasting. This one is just more 392 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: of a fan and and you use the angle of 393 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: the pressure washer to start getting the meat off. So 394 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: what I'll first do, whether I'm using the pressure washer 395 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: or just washing it off with a hose or anything else, 396 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: I first take as many big pieces off as I 397 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: can just with pliers in a knife. I cleaned it 398 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: up the best I can take all the big stuff off. 399 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: Then I moved to the washing phase. It's really good 400 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: if you can kind of let it cool down a 401 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: little bit, because what's gonna happen. As soon as you 402 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: hit it with the hose, It's gonna blow hot stuff 403 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: all over you. You'll do that once, not twice. Uh. 404 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Once you've got like hot brains in your face, you 405 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're gonna really think, rethink everything the 406 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: next time. So now we kind of move on to 407 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: that washing phase of cleaning the skull. So one of 408 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: the questions I was get is like, how do you 409 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: remove the brain? So the first thing I do, I 410 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: actually leave the brain in when I boil it. You know, 411 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: people always suggested, oh, you know, scramble it up with 412 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: a stick first, try to get most of it out, 413 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: clean that out. I think with C W D and 414 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: all the other things we're trying to prevent, the easiest 415 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: way is just boil it, cook it out, and then 416 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: take it out. I'll use like a pair of long 417 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: like needle nose pliers, reach in there, pull it out, 418 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: throw it in the garbage instead of just like chucking 419 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: it onto the yard. For the most part, you can 420 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: get everything out that way, and that's the easiest I 421 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: think the easiest and cleanest way to do it. Now, 422 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: another tool that I use a lot would be a screwdriver. 423 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: I go and find the ear butts the ear drum. 424 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: I put the screwdriver in there and pop those out. 425 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: It just give me a little bit more access to 426 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: the brain cavity. You don't ever see that part of 427 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: the ear amount and it's kind of just holds. If 428 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: you've boiled your skull before and it kind of still 429 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: smells afterwards, there's probably stuff in there that you just 430 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get out. So I just pop those out because 431 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: it's easy and it's an easier way to clean. Then 432 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: I take my hose, my pressure washer, whatever, and I 433 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: start blasting the skull, start cleaning it out and blasting 434 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: and kind of every direction that I can to start 435 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: removing any meat or bits and pieces. I blast into 436 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the brain cavity with it, cleaning it out, and then 437 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: I also blast from like any will you find, shoot 438 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: water into it. Try to spray everything out that you 439 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: can in between the teeth, along the top portion of 440 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: the jaw, and then from the back of the skull 441 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: out the nose. If you simmer the skull right and 442 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: you put in you know, the dish soap and the 443 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: sodium bicarbonate or baking soda. You should retain all that. 444 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: I call it the nose cone. It's got definitely a 445 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: different name, but it's just the easiest way to describe it. 446 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: It's all the old factory senses in there, all the 447 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: interesting things in the nose. I like to leave that 448 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: in for the most part. If I'm traveling or I'm 449 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: somewhere else, I'll generally just blast that or cut that 450 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: out because it's not imperative for the European mount and 451 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to clean if you just cut 452 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: that out if you're traveling and you just don't want 453 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: to mess with it if you're If I'm at home 454 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: and I have the time, I always take time to 455 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: just you know, make sure I simmer everything right and 456 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: keep that. But it's better to just start blasting things 457 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: out from the back. Now you'll notice inside the goal 458 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: in the nose there's kind of like this cartilage piece. 459 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: I'll use a pair of needle nose pliers to pull 460 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: that out, being careful not to break anything. So in 461 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: your kid of things you're gonna need for this is 462 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: probably a screw driver, needle, nose, pliers, knife, some form 463 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: of water to blast, whether it's a hose, whether it's 464 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: a sink, whether it's whatever. And then you're boiling stuff 465 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: or your water kit. Once that is all done, once 466 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: the skull is completely cleaned up, now it's gonna be 467 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: time to whiten it. I have found the best way 468 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: to whiten the skulls is generally using hydrogen peroxide. I 469 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: get a little bit stronger dosage of it. I get 470 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: like the food grade I think it would be for 471 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: d V. It's normally used for like hair dye hair salons. 472 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: You can buy it online. It's like a commercial grade 473 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: hydrogen peroxide. Now, the hydrogen peroxide you put on a 474 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: cut would be like three hydrogen peroxide for d V 475 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: is actually I think it's twelve percent hydrogen peroxide. There's 476 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: a lot of ways you can use it. So you 477 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: can either mix it into a paste, which works great. 478 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: I've found that dunking it, like submerging it into peroxide, 479 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: seems to be the best. It kind of will attach 480 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: to any piece of meat, bubble, fizz and burn that 481 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: stuff off. I like to submerge it because I try 482 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: to keep everything in the nose. I want all that clean. 483 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to like put paste in there and make 484 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: it work. Now, one thing you're gonna find is, Okay, 485 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: what's the balance of how much peroxide I'm using and 486 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: can I get it submerged. So you're gonna need to 487 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: find a container that really matches the size of the 488 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: skull and then prop it in a way that the 489 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: level of the peroxide doesn't actually hit the antlers. Now, 490 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: if I do use straight for d V, I'll probably 491 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: let it sit on the skull for I don't know, 492 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: six hours, eight hours. I mean you can kind of 493 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: start to tell what it looks like. If I start 494 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: have to cut it, then I might leave it overnight 495 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: or longer. So cutting it would just be adding water. 496 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: So if I cut it in half, if I use whatever, 497 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: I think they come in, like a gallon jug can 498 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: get expensive if you have to use that much, but 499 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: a gallon jugo that and then a gallon of water. 500 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Now we're around six percent hydrogen peroxide. So I'm gonna 501 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: probably let it sit for a little bit longer. If 502 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: I have to cut it down to three, I'm really 503 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna let it sit. Another option would be like they 504 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: make that same forty v in like a gel where 505 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: you can just coade it. I would do that and 506 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: let it sit for about five or six hours. Now, 507 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: what you want to do is make sure obviously the 508 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: peroxide doesn't get on them because it will start turning 509 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: them white. So you run it up to the level 510 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: and then what I'll do is I'll take a paper towel, 511 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: wrap it around the base, and then cover that paper 512 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: towel with the peroxide. Another option I'm just throwing out 513 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of different options for whitening the skull will 514 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: be if you want to just use the peroxide poured 515 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: over the paper towels, like cover the skull and paper 516 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: towels and pour the peroxide on it. One thing you're 517 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna want to do is make sure that you use 518 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: the peroxide with a plastic container, not a metal container, 519 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: and definitely use gloves because that peroxide will burn your 520 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: skin at that higher level. You just don't want it 521 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: on your skin or get it on your clothes. Those 522 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: it will kind of bleach out your clothes. But the 523 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: peroxide is good because it doesn't deteriorate the bone. So 524 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: if like you know, here people say bleach a skull 525 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: I think the term more means like bleach it white, 526 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean use bleach, because if you use bleach, 527 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: which I have used before, the skull gets brittle and 528 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: starts to fall apart after a little while. It might 529 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: take a few years, but it's just not gonna last. 530 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: So the peroxide seems to be one of the better ways. 531 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: I've also used other things like oxy clean um not 532 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: mixed with the peroxide, just oxy clean, or biz which 533 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: is like another detergent as a degrease or but I 534 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: think that the peroxide probably works the best if you 535 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: only have a couple options. I mean, I've found sometimes 536 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, you're traveling somewhere. What I'll do is 537 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: I'll go just into a supermarket. I mean, I have 538 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: quite a few skulls at my house that I've gone 539 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: to the supermarket. I've just got women's hair dye Platinum Blonde. 540 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: Open up the packet and use that. I'm actually looking 541 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: at Antelope School that I did it a few years ago, 542 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: that I use that on. It's now starting to kind 543 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: of feel greasy and uh, I don't know, it's like 544 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: got this weird like greasy texture to it. It's like 545 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: years later. So I've decided that I kind of stopped 546 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: using that because it kind of gets this like makes 547 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: the skull feel weird later on, and actually some of it, 548 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, it didn't really turn out as good 549 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: as just using the regular hydrogen peroxide or the fort 550 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: V whatever. I use the stabilized stuff because that way, 551 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: if you open it a lot of hydrogen peroxide, and 552 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: if you're buying it, get the stabilized one, because what happens. 553 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: You'll open it, you'll use it, you'll put the lid 554 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: back on, but once it's kind of contacted air, it 555 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: starts to lose its potency. So you want the stuff 556 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't lose its potency if you're just buying it. Anyways. 557 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Now there's also peroxide gel, which it works really well. 558 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: You can kind of, I mean, you use less of it. 559 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: You can have a small bottle. It's easier to travel with. 560 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: You can put that on the skull, clean it up 561 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: that way. That's a really good way that I use 562 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: when I'm traveling. I generally won't submerge it, but I'll 563 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: just use that gel and it's just easier to travel with, 564 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: easier to find. And then I can clean the skull 565 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: that way, so when I get back home, Hey, the 566 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: skull is done. I can travel across state lines. I 567 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: don't have to worry. Now, let's say you're traveling hunting 568 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: and you need to remove the brain without your like, 569 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't have the stuff to boil it, I don't 570 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: have the time. Whatever. Another option would be if you 571 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: don't want to skull cap it, what I'll do is 572 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: I'll cut the back of the skull right where at 573 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: the occipital joint where it kind of goes into the spine. 574 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: I'll cut that portion off with a handsaw. I'll then 575 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: get in there with my knife or whatever and remove 576 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: the brain. You could then even clean it up a 577 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: little bit with some gel peroxide, and you should be 578 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: good to go. Now the brain and spinal material is gone. 579 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: There's none in there, none left. You can save that 580 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: piece that you saw it off and epoxy back on 581 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: later if you ever want to use like a skull 582 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: hooker type mount. Otherwise, it actually mounts to the wall 583 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: pretty good without that piece on the back. I prefer 584 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: to just keep it and re attach it later with 585 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: some bondo and a POxy maybe like run a screw 586 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: through it and just get it on there. So I can, 587 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: you know, if I would decide don't want to use 588 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: a skull hooker or something like that, it's pretty easy 589 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: to do that in a nutshell. Is how you clean 590 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: or d I y European mount for an elker deer, 591 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: pretty much anything. I do the same technique for everything, 592 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: and if you do that, you're gonna have a really 593 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: good result. It's really fun to try. I know, it's 594 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: kind of one thing. It's like, Okay, can you really 595 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: listen to this in a podcast and understand how to 596 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: do it? I think so. I mean I wish that 597 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: when I started somebody just told me these things and 598 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: it would have made it a lot more, a lot 599 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: easier to understand. I did. I'm going to try to 600 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: do a couple of videos of this. I got something 601 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: on my Instagram right now if you kind of want 602 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: to like a recap of it and just to see 603 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: some of the steps in process. But I think that 604 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's not that hard to do. As a 605 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: side note, I will say, if you're gonna blast the 606 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: skull with anything, put your rain gear on. I have 607 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: also tried people say just oh, just use the pressure 608 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: washer don't or a hot pressure washer. Don't even boil it. 609 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't turn out that well. The school needs some 610 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: form of degreasing because later on it starts to sweat 611 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: and gets weird. I've tried a lot of different things, 612 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: and I will continue to keep trying different options, different methods. 613 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: This one just seems to work most universal, no matter 614 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: where I'm at, the easiest way to do it. I mean, 615 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: in a in a standard year, just based on guiding 616 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: or for clients or you know, just whatever. I'm in 617 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: camp with friends, and I mean I end up at 618 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: the end of the year with like everybody, we come 619 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: over and we just start boiling our skulls. I'll do 620 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: a hundreds of these things in a year, and this 621 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: just seems to be the way that works for me 622 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: when I'm doing it. You know, maybe I've got a 623 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: rhythm and a system down and I've kind of got 624 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: it figured out this way, but I still constantly try 625 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: other methods. If somebody mentions it or whatever, you should 626 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: try it this way. I've tried different ways, and you know, 627 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: this way it just seems to be the best for me. 628 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: But I think that if you've never done it, or 629 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: you're thinking about doing it. Give it a try it 630 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: it's it's fairly easy, it'll save you a couple hundred bucks, 631 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: and the end result looks good and it's cool. You 632 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: can put it up on your wall and say like, 633 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: oh hey, I hunted that, I butchered it, and I 634 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: did the European skull amount myself. So just something to 635 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: think about, some food for thought. Hopefully you find some 636 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: success and you get a skull that you get to 637 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: clean up this fall. For me, this year, we had 638 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: a pretty good opening weekend. I was actually guiding this 639 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: last weekend. We ended up getting kind of tagging out 640 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: fairly quick for our clients, which was awesome. And it 641 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: was just like the first day was was rough. You know. 642 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: I gave those opening day tips, Well, it didn't apply 643 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: this year because the weather was so bad where we 644 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: were at. Nobody was out and I was out and 645 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: didn't see anything that was like the first opening day. 646 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I didn't see people were elk so I thought, oh, hey, 647 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: no one's gonna be out, this's gonna be great. And 648 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: it was still really tough because it's really hard to 649 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: find animals if you can't see and if they weren't 650 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: moving around there's like no tracks. It was. It was 651 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: just a difficult day. But after that it started to 652 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: clear up and things started to fall into our favor. 653 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: But it also got me thinking, you know, when I 654 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: really think about, glassing is such an important tactic when 655 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: it comes to hunting out west. So what I want 656 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: to do is, it's been a while since we've covered 657 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: some glassing tips, so I think next week I'm just 658 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna cover a few glassing tips and really just how 659 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: do identify game through your binoculars, how to know what 660 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: to look for, as well as maybe that size reference 661 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: of people be like, well, am I looking for an answer? 662 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: Am I looking for an elephant? Like understanding the size reference, 663 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: and maybe some of the things that I look for 664 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: that help me spot an animal, not necessarily seeing the 665 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: whole animal, but just some things that catch your eye 666 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: help you identify that there's an animal over there as 667 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: you're glassing. So I think next week we're gonna cover that. Also, 668 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, feel free to continually right in with questions 669 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: and whatever. I've also been getting like a ton of great, 670 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: great messages about some success and some just awesome things, 671 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: So thank everybody for that. Feel free, you know, to 672 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: to subscribe to rate to Like I say it a 673 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: few times, but you know, you know it does nothing 674 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: but help us, So I appreciate that. And until next week, 675 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: keep those skulls boiled right, don't over boil your skull 676 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: all right, See you guys. H