WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Predicting Change 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.039 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:18.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.760 Cowboys screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:34.000 the Star in Frisco, et saotday. Now your hosts Nicky Spagnola, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.440 Rob Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones, and we are 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.479 inside the SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:50.479 Frisco on a Tuesday, January fourteenth, twenty twenty. And no 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:58.200 Mickey today, no song from Big Get Here, Rob. Where 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.000 in the world is Mickey? He's probably an eye twenty 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:06.959 somewhere right now, driving back from New Orleans. In the world. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.160 He's got the Christian Orleans last night. Well, he gets 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.959 the big paycheck around too. You don't want to ask 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.440 you that's I don't do that. In this case. I 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.120 know exactly where he was. He spent a lot of 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.640 money to go to that game last night, and his 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.440 wife's a huge LSU fan, and they had something to 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.600 party about last night. And now I think they're on 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.440 their way home. All right, Very good man. I've been there. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.160 What buy your Classic every year? Oh? Yeah, the first 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.000 year at to Buy your Classic? Me and my wife 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.440 at the time, she was just my girlfriend. We went 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.240 walking all through Bourbon Street and French Quarters and everything, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.880 just so naive. Could have got mugged at any time, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.240 you know. That was That was the dumbest thing we 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.560 ever did. We had a great time. We got mugged 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.120 at any time. We were out there to like four 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:50.920 o'clock in the morning, having a good time. It's a 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.120 great place. The party is probably still continuing right now. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.640 Gosh for LSU fans after winning the national championship last night, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.560 Um as anything happened since the last time we got 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.600 together last twes Yeah, A couple of things, A couple 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.240 of things. Some who are waiting on it would be 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.320 nice if they could have done it while we was 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.760 still on the air. Yes, that's right, that's right. We 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.720 were waiting on that one thing and there was a 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.680 former Cowboys coach who was waiting on one thing. Wow. Man, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.680 when we came to Yeah, that was extremely cool. How 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.079 many people cried? Did you cry? I didn't cry. Troy 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.520 Aikman did the tears for me. Yeah. Man, I think 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.480 people wanted to cry and they were like, oh damn, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:32.760 look at the Troy just everybody so Jimmy headed to 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.200 the Hall of Fame, and one guy in here he's 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.160 very familiar with Jimmy, having played for it. Jimmy was 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.680 first up. What was that two years ago when I 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.359 was up for it? Okay, and everybody kept trying to 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.200 put us together. And I didn't want to get into 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.200 any kind of controversiy on that because I want a 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.000 good karma. Yeah, I didn't want to get into an 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.480 I still don't know what that means. I had to 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.040 look at up so but no, I she tweeted right away. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.320 I don't know if they get I don't know how 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.360 Twitter works. I just tweeted out congratulations and I can 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.560 find it right. Congratulation Jimmy Jay Hall of Famer. I 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.960 mean that's all he can say. Man. But watching it, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.040 I thought, you know, Jimmy, man, he's so cool. Yeah. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.200 I thought Jimmy would kind of play it off. You know, 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.320 his head never gets messed up. He's the sharpest dresser 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.679 in the room. And uh, it was that was very 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.079 emotional for him, It really was, and it was it was. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.960 It was good to see that Jimmy. You know, usually 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.720 you see the cocky little Jimmy, the one always talking trash, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:37.440 a big blow hard. But now that that Jimmy was 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.760 a guy that you can tell, you know, guy's been 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.720 through a lot. You know, we've all you know, coming 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.760 starting back we first mete each other, all of us 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.720 to where we are now. You know, you kind of 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.120 look back on that and say, wow, man, I'm I'm 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.880 blessed to be why I am right now. So it 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.800 was I could feel that for him. I'm sure everybody 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:59.400 else could too. At Walls underscored twenty four on Twitter said, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.640 congrat it's Jimmy Jammie Hall of Famer exclamation point. I 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.320 definitely want to get that before him, but hey, I'm 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.640 not gonna lie. I was happy for him. That was 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.480 good stuff. You got good TV. If you got a 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.839 Jimmy memory that early stands out playing for Oh yeah, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.640 I got just one. Yeah. Yeah. As far as good ones, uh, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:24.680 good one. You know, positive stories. Uh, I think about that. Yeah, 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.440 I gotta think about that. Uh well, I feel like this. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.400 He was the first coach to ever want to name 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.800 me captain out of all the coaches I bragged on, Yes, 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.840 and I bragged about all these Hall of Fame coaches 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.080 and future Hall of Fame coaches he's the first one 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.640 that ever wanted me to be a captain. I mean 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.280 because you played for some of the all time, I 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.920 played for Eddie Robinson. Okay, I led the nation in 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.200 interceptions with He's never had the player do that. I 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:54.320 don't believe. He never named I was never a captain. Uh, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.000 Tom Landry, you know he wasn't gonna make me a captain. Parcels, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.520 you know, just got there was now the captain Cleveland. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.680 You know, I was always you know, the new guy, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.560 so to speak, and everyone was always established wherever I went. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.440 But when Jimmy came in, his whole idea was to 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.160 try and get you know, he needs to get a 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.120 veteran on his side, and I was on his side 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.920 until we started things going to crap, and then all 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.200 of a sudden He's like, I was his sacrificial lamb. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.440 So I think he picked me for captain just so 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.520 I could be a sacrificial lamb. I do believe. But 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.280 it was fun for a while. The preseason we went 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:30.960 like three and one and I was I was I 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.040 was his He was like for like a month, I 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.120 was his guy, and then didn't want to qun But 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.440 you got a ring pretty soon after that didn't Like, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.240 I said, what is it a brand? The broken? You 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.160 are where you are? It's right, okay, And if it 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.320 wasn't for all of that, I may not have ever 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.599 gotten the ring. And that's funny you mentioned that three 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.480 and one preseason. I was talking to somebody the other 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.599 day about Jimmy and you know he of course he 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.400 was with the Cowboys for five years, and then he 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.600 was at Miami for four years, and this was twenty years. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.839 Let's see. Yeah, I didn't realize it either. I just 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.080 remember when the Cowboys played the Dolphins. It was a 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.000 big deal and I went to Miami that weekended stories 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.400 on Jimmy and everything. Um, but it was there four years, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.000 and in nineteen ninety nine is when he retired from coaching, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.560 So it was twenty years ago basically. And um, you know, 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.880 the last game that he coached was against Jacksonville in 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.000 the playoffs and they got beat like sixty three. So 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.799 I remember that, and Jimmy always said that that game, 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.600 that game didn't count. Didn't know that that game didn't 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.240 count because we knew going in that we weren't gonna 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.200 win that game. So they didn't know what they would 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.440 blow you out, and so I said, but that went 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.040 over the Oilers the last preseason game in nineteen eighty nine. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.880 That made you three and one in the preseason. You 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.279 count that one, you count. That was fun. That was fun. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.159 That whole preseason was fun. That was a captain for 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.520 that preseason. See, yeah, that's like that was the season 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.159 went in the toilet after that because we went to 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.000 the Saints and then all of a sudden we really 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.320 what we were. They are thought we were the whole time, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.800 you know, But the way they sprung it on Jimmy 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.160 I thought all along because Rick Goslin's kind of hinted 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.480 at it, you know, the special Edition show which you 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.320 were on last week, Everson. I've been there with with 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.200 Rick all season long, and he was filming in on 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.600 this sentence special centennial Hall of Fame class and it 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.280 was his mission to make sure Jimmy got in this year. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:30.000 And in Sharene Williams of course from a sportswriter here 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.480 in town. Also, I was on the committee. But so 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.880 so I was expecting it to happen on the pregame show. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.800 Actually Sunday, that's what happened with me is because Bill Caller, Yeah, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.560 I wrote it. He was pregame CBA yesterday before, so 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.120 I wrote a few graphs, just getting ready for Sunday. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.640 And it didn't happen in pregame for Jimmy. I thought, well, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.680 well happened then, so And that's the thing is I 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.280 think in order to surprise Jimmy, they had to make 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.679 sure they did not do it on the pregame show, 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.960 because that's what the where they did Coward the day before. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:06.800 Jimmy's probably sitting around David Baker had knocked in yet, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.040 you know, and then he gets done with the pregame 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.160 and it didn't happen, and he's probably thinking, well, these 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.080 guys I failed to get. That might have added to 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:20.800 his emotion there at halftime, because obviously it did surprise 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.920 him because if the timing go, yeah, I walk into 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.120 the room and the TV's on at halftime and he's 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:30.000 bawling basically ever since. Why, I mean, because you guys 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.680 were aware of this. I was not aware of this, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.640 and most people weren't aware. I tried to disassociated myself 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.960 at any time. Once I saw the thing came out. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:43.480 My focus was on Cliff Harris. I called him yesterday 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.240 and that's coming out tomorrow morning. The rest of the class. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.400 He was hoping it would be today and Wednesday morning. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.920 That's when they're announcing it right on the NFL network 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.960 Wednesday morning. You know, come on, man, I'm gonna get in. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.440 That's that, and Everson shouldn't too. But he's not realize 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.920 I'm not the end. I totally shut down. I don't 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.760 want to hear anything about it. And then you focus on, well, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.840 who else deserves it? When I didn't get in when 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.800 I was actually in Minneapolis. That was the year that 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.120 two guys got the end that Oh my good. I 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.800 was happy for them, big big big man. The fourth 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.560 linebacker from Houston, Robert Brazil finally got in, who was 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.280 amazing his entire career, HBCU brother from Jackson State. Uh, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.400 a Steeler killer, Okay, I mean he was amazing, and 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.680 just because he wasn't a stealer, he got kind of 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.760 screwed on it. And Jerry Kramer made it that year, which, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.880 oh my god, what so long? I mean he could 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.120 go now, he could go now finally, that's probably the 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.080 way he's waiting on. And uh, those two made it 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.680 when I was in. So now my focus is on 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.360 you know, it's crazy on the whole Hall of Fame thing, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.319 like why was and I'm not saying this just because 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.280 you're sitting here, but why was Everson not considered until 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.560 it's so late in the game? You know why? Ask 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:08.720 you boy? Richard? Ask Richard. I Richard can tell you 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.440 all of that. We'll talk to Serene too. See. Yeah, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.080 let's get this moving. I mean, because there's so many 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.720 guys that and so it's great that they have the 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.880 expanded class and the reason they're doing it celebrating a 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.480 hundred years of the NFL and so and what and 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.160 so the numbers on it, they're in addition to the 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.480 five players that normally get elected, which will be Super 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.439 Bowl weekend, there's this fifteen person class, and there's two 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.560 coaches and so we already know the coaches Kawer and Johnson, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.720 and I can't remember the breakdown on the numbers on 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.640 the players and the contributors. It's a little confusing because 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.560 there's this centennial slate, two coaches. We know the coaches. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.760 As you said, there are ten seniors selections this year, yes, 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.760 and then three contributors. Three contributors. That makes fifteen of 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:58.320 the Markerson is one of the finalists for the Contributors. Yeah, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.559 as you said, we'll know those wins day morning. I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.760 don't know what time on Good Morning Football they're gonna know, 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.360 but I want to say between and man, I'm not 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.880 sure if it's Eastern time or Central time, between seven 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.840 and ten am. Yeah, like I said, top of Cliff 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.720 for a while, and two other people that we brought 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.800 up that Uh, I mean, you know me, I'd love 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.280 to been in there like the year after I retired. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.679 But god, you have so many guys that we're waiting on. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.400 Cornell Green, Yeah, yeah, I mean Harvey, Martin, Harvey, Martin, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.080 guys this and that that is now out of the 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:38.400 you know, they'd be senior. And my thing is, why 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.880 why all the other Hall of famers waiting so long for, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:47.959 you know, for my cowboys of course, Drew, Cliff, Harvey 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.720 and Cornell. But then you know, I'm I'm an HBCU guy. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.559 I've seen some guys make some amazing plays, and as 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.679 a fellow dB, I've always told my number out there, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.719 fifty seven. But if you're a cornerback and you're getting interceptions, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.280 I don't care if it was back then or now. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.960 Ken Riley, Cincinnati Bengals, floor the A and M University. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.240 I'm sure Nate Newton has probably been talking trash about 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:16.480 this guy sixty five interceptions for the Cincinnati Bengo with 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.160 his entire career, and if I'm not mistaken, he played 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.240 cornerback the entire time. Wow. So as I stepped outside 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:27.120 my star shoes, Okay, I'm talking about just injustices other 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.160 out there from from other other teams, and I look 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.679 at him as an HBCU brother. That's something that I'm 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.040 talking trash about. Fifty seven and this guy got sixty five, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.040 sixty five interceptions and I think some of those years 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:47.480 were fourteen game seasons ye two. Yes, So his NFL 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.720 he was four time All Pro nineteen seventy three. He 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.199 was the first year year was All Pro. Drafted in 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.760 nineteen sixty nine, so they didn't go to a sixteen 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.640 game season toil nineteen seventy seven. The bulk of his 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.959 career was were spent playing fourteen game season with sixty 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.320 five picks his career, which is just ridiculous that and 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.920 you can't blame any media here you go, how about 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:14.200 that hashtag? Ever since the who cares? Let's do it, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.679 yomen work. I'm getting that T shirt right there. Who 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:22.520 characters about the rules? Stop it? Who cares about the rule? 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.160 But now it Uh. You just wonder what the Hall 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.000 of Famers are thinking, because now it's in pretty much 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.959 their hands, if I'm not mistaken that point. I'm also 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.240 confused about one who actually votes for the seniors, because 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.240 you don't campaign anymore like I was trying to do 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.560 for present day. Yeah, you're just out there. You can't 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.679 do anything now. I mean you could do more if 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.120 you die, if you know what I'm saying. As a senior, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.800 this year's a little different. There's a blue Ribbon panel, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.480 I think I call it that, and they voted last Wednesday. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:57.520 They all convened last Wednesday, and it was included Goslin 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.600 and Serene Williams, but there were others that are normally 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.800 on the Hall of Fame committee that it may have 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.200 been Hall of Famers themselves. I skimmed it, but I 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.560 think gil Brandt was on that list maybe and maybe 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.640 Belichick took I forgot. I'd have to go back and 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.840 look at its present day. I know as present day. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.080 When I was present day, you still had Hall of 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.560 Famers that vote for you, yep, because several came up 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.880 to me and said they did. But that's I think 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:28.880 it's uh uh, you know, together with the media when 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.560 it comes to the seniors, you know, are they all 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.160 who you know, who are the reporters out there that 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.360 are senior voters as well? Along with the Hall of Fame, 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.800 a president, hall of famers. That's the thing that see, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.800 when this process gets so secretive, you know, for years 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.000 and years and years now all of a sudden, you know, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:54.880 in this whole age of information now where everyone's demanding like, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.320 wait a minute, let's lift let's let's lift the veil. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.560 You know who, where's the Wizard of Ours back here? 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.720 What's going one on? And how is it happening? It 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.320 still can be a look yeah, I got it too, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.840 but you go ahead. Well, I mean just some names on. Yeah, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.480 it's a combination of journalists and you know football people. 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.160 Belichick is on that list, Gil Brandt, Jared Bell from 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:18.680 USA Today, John Clayton, longtime journalist, Um Dick le Beau, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.560 John Madden, Gary Myers who used to cover the Cowboy, 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.000 Jozzy Newsome, Bill Pollion, Bill Pollian, and you mentioned Sharine 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.160 and Ron Wolf. Yeah, so that's that's that's for the 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.720 Special Committee. But but year to year, I don't know what, Yeah, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.000 who does? And I think they're trying to change everything 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.360 from how it used to be too. I think the 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.520 centennial thing is they're trying to push it to the 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.880 normally from here on good. They're trying to get more 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:50.280 guys in. Maybe not fifteen every right, but that could 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.400 be a long In fact, I think what's gonna happen 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.560 with the ceremony, there are some from this class who 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.520 are going to be a part of the ceremony. They'll 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.400 all be in attendance, but they get their speech. Or 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.400 what I heard was that some of them will be 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:12.120 involved in an August ceremony. And also there's a September ceremony. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.520 Say the ceremony every year can go four hours. That 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.480 come on, man, it's a speech, it's not a plate, right, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.160 all right? Coming up here on talking cowboys, there's some 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.840 other news that made some headlines from here at the 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.160 Star this past week. We get into that when we 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.880 come back. 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All right, a little 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:17.720 bit of news this past week here at the Star 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.080 in Fresco. As we talked about a little bit last Tuesday, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.040 because the word was out there's a new head coach 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.359 on the premises and the introductory press conference took place 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.879 last Wednesday. Mike McCarthy has been hitting the ground running 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.199 and putting a coaching staff together. And Rob starting with 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.880 you just your impressions of what you've seen so far 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.680 the last week, starting with that press conference last week. Well, 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.320 I'll start with Thursday, the day after the press conference, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.960 because he's getting settled in. We actually saw him coming 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.400 down our hallway where we have our offices that Thursday 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.480 morning after the press conference. He was looking for his 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.359 office and he couldn't find it. He was getting some 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.920 help trying to navigate the Star and get to his office, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.400 and it was pretty funny. But I think the term 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.880 in this business is when you win the press conference. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:08.760 I think he won the press conference. Yeah. I think 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:13.000 he really made a strong impression on media and fans. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.359 He's an experienced guy. You can tell that that was 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.520 a lot. I mean, that was a that was a 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.680 big doings so to speak, at that press conference, because 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.480 you had tons of cameras, tons of media, You had 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.040 cowboys staff up in the balcony watching, and you know, 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.240 while you're the head coach of the Green Bay Packers, 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.679 that's a big time job, no question. This is another 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.679 level in terms of media exposure, I think, and just 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.679 probably even national exposure. And he's ready for that. You know, 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.880 he talked about that. And I think the biggest thing 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.520 that I think the Jones is conveyed during the press 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.879 conference was we're lucky to have a coach like this 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.919 available because they still feel that this roster is in 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.560 position to compete and here's a veteran guy who's been 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.520 through it, who's been through it with with a big 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.440 time franchise, and they think they can hit the ground 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.240 running with him. So we'll see what happens. But yeah, 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.560 he's right now, he's trying to get the staff together. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.720 That's that's the first order of business. Has had a 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.960 sort of self deprecating since a humor at the press conference. Yeah, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.520 it seemed like a guy that is he seemed like 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.240 in that setting, guy that's easy to get along with. 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.000 But he's got he's got a toughness about him too, 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.280 being a Pittsburgh guy, and I think he wants his 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.920 teams to have a certain toughness about him. I think 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.200 what I saw in the press conference was you saw 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.440 the toughness. You saw that old school toughness to where 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.080 the experience that you spoke of Bobby will allow him 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:50.040 to be able to tread the waters. Uh when in 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.200 Lake Jones so to speaker, you know, because Jerry's it's 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.359 a different beast here, no doubt about it. I'm sure 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.400 even when he had his job with Green Bay, a's 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.960 a great organization, historical organization. I'm pretty sure there were 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.840 not nearly as many cameras there. I'm sure it wasn't 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.480 nearly as intimidating, because, let's face it, I don't care 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.600 where you've coached before. When you come to the Dallas Cowboys, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.720 it's entirely different. Whether you're a player or a coach, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:23.880 it doesn't matter. Things are different here. Sometimes things are 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:30.760 off the wall crazy. Sometimes things are just run. They 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.480 happened so quickly that it can make your head spin. 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.720