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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, et saotday. Now your hosts Nicky Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones, and we are

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Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in

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Speaker 1: Frisco on a Tuesday, January fourteenth, twenty twenty. And no

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Speaker 1: Mickey today, no song from Big Get Here, Rob. Where

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Speaker 1: in the world is Mickey? He's probably an eye twenty

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Speaker 1: somewhere right now, driving back from New Orleans. In the world.

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Speaker 1: He's got the Christian Orleans last night. Well, he gets

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Speaker 1: the big paycheck around too. You don't want to ask

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Speaker 1: you that's I don't do that. In this case. I

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Speaker 1: know exactly where he was. He spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to go to that game last night, and his

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Speaker 1: wife's a huge LSU fan, and they had something to

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Speaker 1: party about last night. And now I think they're on

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Speaker 1: their way home. All right, Very good man. I've been there.

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Speaker 1: What buy your Classic every year? Oh? Yeah, the first

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Speaker 1: year at to Buy your Classic? Me and my wife

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Speaker 1: at the time, she was just my girlfriend. We went

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Speaker 1: walking all through Bourbon Street and French Quarters and everything,

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Speaker 1: just so naive. Could have got mugged at any time,

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Speaker 1: you know. That was That was the dumbest thing we

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Speaker 1: ever did. We had a great time. We got mugged

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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, having a good time. It's a

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Speaker 1: great place. The party is probably still continuing right now.

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Speaker 1: Gosh for LSU fans after winning the national championship last night,

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Speaker 1: Um as anything happened since the last time we got

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Speaker 1: together last twes Yeah, A couple of things, A couple

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Speaker 1: of things. Some who are waiting on it would be

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Speaker 1: nice if they could have done it while we was

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Speaker 1: still on the air. Yes, that's right, that's right. We

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Speaker 1: were waiting on that one thing and there was a

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Speaker 1: former Cowboys coach who was waiting on one thing. Wow. Man,

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Speaker 1: when we came to Yeah, that was extremely cool. How

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Speaker 1: many people cried? Did you cry? I didn't cry. Troy

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Speaker 1: people wanted to cry and they were like, oh damn,

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Speaker 1: look at the Troy just everybody so Jimmy headed to

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and one guy in here he's

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Speaker 1: very familiar with Jimmy, having played for it. Jimmy was

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Speaker 1: first up. What was that two years ago when I

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Speaker 1: was up for it? Okay, and everybody kept trying to

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Speaker 1: put us together. And I didn't want to get into

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Speaker 1: good karma. Yeah, I didn't want to get into an

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Speaker 1: I still don't know what that means. I had to

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Speaker 1: look at up so but no, I she tweeted right away.

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Speaker 1: Twitter works. I just tweeted out congratulations and I can

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Speaker 1: find it right. Congratulation Jimmy Jay Hall of Famer. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's all he can say. Man. But watching it,

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Jimmy, man, he's so cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought Jimmy would kind of play it off. You know,

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Speaker 1: emotional for him, It really was, and it was it was.

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Speaker 1: It was good to see that Jimmy. You know, usually

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Speaker 1: you see the cocky little Jimmy, the one always talking trash,

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Speaker 1: a big blow hard. But now that that Jimmy was

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Speaker 1: a guy that you can tell, you know, guy's been

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Speaker 1: through a lot. You know, we've all you know, coming

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Speaker 1: starting back we first mete each other, all of us

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I was happy for him. That was

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Speaker 1: good stuff. You got good TV. If you got a

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Speaker 1: He was the first coach to ever want to name

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Speaker 1: me captain out of all the coaches I bragged on, Yes,

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Speaker 1: But when Jimmy came in, his whole idea was to

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Speaker 1: try and get you know, he needs to get a

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Speaker 1: So I think he picked me for captain just so

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Speaker 1: I could be a sacrificial lamb. I do believe. But

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Speaker 1: it was fun for a while. The preseason we went

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Speaker 1: you got a ring pretty soon after that didn't Like,

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Speaker 1: I said, what is it a brand? The broken? You

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Speaker 1: gotten the ring. And that's funny you mentioned that three

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Speaker 1: you know, But the way they sprung it on Jimmy

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Speaker 1: I thought all along because Rick Goslin's kind of hinted

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Speaker 1: And in Sharene Williams of course from a sportswriter here

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Speaker 1: My focus was on Cliff Harris. I called him yesterday

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Speaker 1: and that's coming out tomorrow morning. The rest of the class.

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Speaker 1: He was hoping it would be today and Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 1: it's so late in the game? You know why? Ask

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Speaker 1: all of that. We'll talk to Serene too. See. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get this moving. I mean, because there's so many

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Speaker 1: hundred years of the NFL and so and what and

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Speaker 1: so the numbers on it, they're in addition to the

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Speaker 1: five players that normally get elected, which will be Super

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Speaker 1: As you said, there are ten seniors selections this year, yes,

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Speaker 1: and then three contributors. Three contributors. That makes fifteen of

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Speaker 1: as you said, we'll know those wins day morning. I

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Speaker 1: season of what this union might be. He's the kind

424
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Speaker 1: of coach I think can handle that. And I don't

425
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: mean very stoic, like like Jason, but just to where

426
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to smart you, I'm not trying to

427
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: be cute. I'm just here trying to do my job

428
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Speaker 1: and sometimes that's what you need. What do you think? Oh?

429
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: I um, you know, it's interesting. You know, the one

430
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: of the biggest takeaways was about putting a staff together.

431
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: And when you look at this coaching staff and now

432
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: it looks like, well Kellen Moore is staying. I mean

433
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: that's not out officially, but it looks that way unless

434
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Speaker 1: we've heard anything different. Now they really haven't announced anything

435
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: right yet, but that those reports are out there that

436
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: he's supposed to come back. And I think the Rams

437
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: announced that John Fossil will be coming aboard, but the

438
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys haven't yet. But yeah, when what we've seen out

439
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: there is a veteran will be coming here. That's the reports. Okay, yeah,

440
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: and again I don't know what point the cow the

441
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: RAMS press release did say that he's accepted a job

442
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, right I did, Okay, I think it

443
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: was on Twitter or something I saw it ever lies, right,

444
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: It's just interesting that they would just come out and

445
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: say that where he's going. Um, and then Doug nust Meyer.

446
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: The reports are Doug nust Meyer will stay on this

447
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: staff as a quarterbacks coach, moved from tight ends coach

448
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks coach. So if those are the only holdovers, okay,

449
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: this will be right up there with the largest shakeups

450
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: of a coaching staff we've ever seen in this organization.

451
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: Even I went back and looked when Jimmy took over

452
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: from Landry in nineteen eighty nine, there were three holdovers

453
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Speaker 1: on that staff. One of them was Dick Nolan, Alan

454
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Lowry special team's coach, and Neil Armstrong. But but Neil Armstrong,

455
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: he was his position was research and development. So I

456
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: don't know if that's officially a spot on the coaching staff.

457
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Speaker 1: He's listed, he's listed in the Media Guide as of course,

458
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: he was a coach in his career obviously, but at

459
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: that point it was later in his career and that

460
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: may have men more in personnel, but research and development.

461
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: So there, technically there's three movers. OSU Okahoma State. That's right, Okay,

462
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: that's right. What a great guy us Yeah, I enjoyed him. Yeah. Yeah,

463
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: So anyway, if there's just two holdovers, I'm pretty certain

464
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: that that's the biggest changeover in a coaching step that

465
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Speaker 1: we've ever had here, even greater than when Jimmy took over. Really,

466
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that, because Quinn Parcels came here,

467
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: there were several that stayed, including Mike Zimmer, Jim Jeffco

468
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: because I remember Bill was having trouble getting some of

469
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: his guys over here and he wound up sticking. There

470
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: were a lot of holdovers, including Mike Zimmer, and that

471
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: turned out to be a great partnership. But um, yeah,

472
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: I guess you're right, even Jimmy's coming aboard because everything

473
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Speaker 1: changed when Jim right Man, Zach Jerry was coming in

474
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: at the same time. Now, Dick Nolan and Allen Lowry

475
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: weren't here much longer, yeh. But but he did keep

476
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Speaker 1: those guys around, So I would have to say that

477
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: I think the problem they're gonna have is is defensively,

478
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm with you. That's a person about this thing. Man.

479
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: I know he's happy to have this these these weapons. Offensively,

480
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the first thing he saw like, Wow,

481
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: look at that, and it's kind of reminds you. It

482
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: reminds you of his years in Green Bay. You always

483
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: had offensive things going on. Except for maybe Julius Peppers

484
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys, they really wanted the formulable

485
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: defense at all. So he's used to dealing with a

486
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: defense that hadn't had much success. I hope he doesn't

487
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: have to continue to deal with that. Yeah, but you're right.

488
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: You look at this roster. They could go play right

489
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: now with what they got on offense. And the guy's

490
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: coming back or expected to come back. Dack's not going anywhere.

491
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm Alty's probably not going anywhere. Um defensively, though we talked,

492
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere. Yeah, I wonder about that. I mean,

493
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so at this point. Right he's supposed

494
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: to be a free agent, but he is. It's only

495
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: coach he's ever had if I was, If I was

496
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: a coach, that's the first sign I would make right there.

497
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: You're guy cop. You're a big copy. I am a

498
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: cop guy. There's no doubt about it. He has been

499
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: doing it way before anybody that we've seen around here. Uh,

500
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: the numbers didn't pay out last year. You could kind

501
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: of see he was getting a bit frustrated with not

502
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: being targeted a bit. But he didn't go in the tank.

503
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, he just more and he's a professional. That's

504
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: that's why you need him here. We need more professionals

505
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: around here. That's why you need a cob here. Nuss

506
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: Meyer moves to quarterbacks coach Rob. There's an opening for

507
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: a tight Ends coach here? Oh, what are you applying? Bill?

508
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Would you like to apply for that job? I don't

509
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: think I'm qualified anybody. You got the studs of the

510
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: of the Can you think of anybody who might want

511
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: to apply for that job? I cannot think of anybody

512
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: who do you think? I don't know. I'm not sure

513
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: if anyone who qualifies to be a tight Ends coach?

514
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: R No, no, no, let's take a little bigger picture,

515
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah? Yeah, well no no, because then he'll

516
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: start wanted to play again. You got to make up

517
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: your pick a lane. Okay, you stay in to stay out,

518
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: let me go. But you were talking defense, and I

519
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: just counted it up, and we've talked about this previous show.

520
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I think eighteen guys can be free agent Defensively, they

521
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: have a lot of questions to answer. And they also

522
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: and these are prominent prominent names, prominent names, Robert Quinn, MALIEK. Collins,

523
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: every level of defense, they've got questions there. And they

524
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: also just they need to play better. They need to

525
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: figure out And I don't know exactly what the scheme's

526
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: going to be. It's gonna depend on the personnel. But

527
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: they got to answer a lot of roster questions. Okay,

528
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: let's talk about the scheme a little bit, because okay,

529
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: all right, Mike Nolan has been a three to four

530
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: guy in his career, but he's also been in four

531
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: three systems before. With what the Cowboys have coming back, okay,

532
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking specifically of DeMarcus Lawrence. Is it better

533
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: than four three or three four? I mean, I can't

534
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: see DeMarcus Lawrence in a three four as a as

535
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: a standout. You've made an investment like that, Yeah, I

536
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the best spot for him. I mean,

537
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: a stand up outside rush linebacker. Why why don't you

538
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: think it would work for him? Well, because he's not.

539
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't see it because I've never

540
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: seen him do that before. Cover and right, because you right,

541
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: that's part of the job. How much now, DeMarcus where

542
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: how much was covering that in those well and the

543
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: other part of it is there. You know, you're in

544
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: the nickel seventy percent of the time, and so you're

545
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: in a four man front and in the past they've

546
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: rotated guys. Now Lawrence would get the bulk of the snaps.

547
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: But but in your base, you know you want him

548
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: on the field. So what do you think me to me,

549
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for d Lawrence in its entire defense,

550
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: to make a change hit that reset Buddon. And if

551
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I have a coach coming in and he tells me

552
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna do it, and we're gonna

553
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: tweak your responsibilities and your tea techno just a little bit,

554
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: then I would hope that that coach is sense enough

555
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: to say, I'm gonna make sure that we're going to

556
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: enhance your game. And this is a guy that he

557
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: is the guy that can enhance his game can be better.

558
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: It's no doubt about it. He can be a much

559
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: more dominating player than walking around. That's what I'm saying.

560
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Don't be don't be closed minded to that. Belichick came

561
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: up to me and said, I want you to play

562
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: safety on third downs, on passing downs. Coach, you know,

563
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: this body ain't made for tactless, it's not made for safety.

564
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: But I did with the ass I led the team

565
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: the interceptions. We have the number one third down defense.

566
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Okay for the number one defense, period, but the number

567
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: one third down defense. It did not harm our system

568
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: in any way. When I say oh, I mean the

569
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: Giant system the way it was when I got there.

570
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: That was the way it stayed. And he only tweaked

571
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: what I did. And it made me a more a

572
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: better all around player. So that can happen with d Law. Seriously,

573
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: that can happen with d Law. You know. It's it's

574
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: so much about matchups, and you know, and we've seen

575
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: the way defenses have evolved in the National Football League,

576
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: where the old traditional three four base defense or a

577
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: four to three, they're moving guys around in that front stuff,

578
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: don't be able to try to get a misman And

579
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: you think Lawrence Rush can beat a guy, a guard

580
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: on the inside put him in a position to do it.

581
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: And it's so hard to read now now the offensive

582
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: lineman they don't know if stunts are coming now, they've

583
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: got to be a little bit more honest, and d

584
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Law is not gonna be right there for you to

585
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: pick him out every time. To me, I think that

586
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: flexibility up and down the line could be very good

587
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: about gild Smith. That's what I was thinking, man. I mean,

588
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: you can see him as a rusher. That's what he

589
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: does best is rush, going forward and hit. He has

590
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: a knack for it from the linebacker position. I don't

591
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't have any insight on this yet. I mean,

592
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to do exactly, but

593
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have to be one or the other.

594
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Maybe you can run some three man line and still

595
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: have some fourth three concepts. I mean, the Patriots are

596
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: a hybrid. I was just thinking about the Patriots in

597
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: like a Dante high Tower, and I thought when High

598
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Tower came out, In fact, I wanted the Cowboys to

599
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: draft High Tower back in twenty ten or whatever whatever

600
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: twenty eleven I think it was, and they already had

601
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: John Lee. And one of the things with high Tower

602
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: is he could play inside linebacker in a three four,

603
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: or he could go to the edge. You know, he's

604
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: a versatile guy, and that's the way he's his career

605
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: is kind of played out there, But a Jalen Smith

606
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: could be like that in a three four DC. Well,

607
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing you have. I looked up Mike Nolan

608
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: and just a kind of system that he had, the

609
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of players that he likes. The linebackers we have

610
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: they don't fit the system that he has. His linebackers,

611
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: they're going forward, they're extremely aggressive. He loves the blitz

612
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: and they get a lot of turnovers from those blitzes.

613
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: They get a lot of strip sacks. I mean, they like,

614
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: they like to be they like to put the pressure down.

615
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Now he's had to do that at times because he

616
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: didn't have the talent that he wanted on certain defenses.

617
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: But when you look at the Saints, you look at

618
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: those linebackers there, and that's what he was coaching while

619
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: he was there. Those linebackers are different from ours about

620
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: de Mario Davis. They are they have no necks, they

621
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: have no waste line all right. These guys are straight

622
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: up tree trunks and they but they can move around

623
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: and they can make plays and he loves to send

624
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: them out to the quarterback. So I look for a

625
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: more aggressive defense for us to have but that's gonna

626
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: also leave us open for more big plays. And you

627
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: got to answer questions in your secondary You got to

628
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: get those dbs that are ready for not necessarily lockdown,

629
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: but just be able to challenge your wide receivers the

630
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: way we would challenge. We were challenged by some dbs.

631
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: They wan't that good, but because of the system they

632
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: were successful against us. Let's see if we can do

633
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the same. So is it more exciting that they have

634
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: so many free agents and there can be a makeover

635
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: and from a from McCarthy coming in here or the

636
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: whole coaching staff. Do they they look at it as

637
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: it's more exciting um possibilities here because you can and

638
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: that we're going to see, you know how involved as

639
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: McCarthy in the building of this team, you know, acquiring

640
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: person I look to see who they keep. Okay, that's

641
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell you a lot. Who are they going to

642
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: keep around. We're gonna we're gonna have our steady guys

643
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: that are going to be there for us. But man,

644
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: this is going to be a shake up. Defensively, yea,

645
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: that may not settle in. We might be like the

646
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. They only got better than like the

647
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: last seven games of the season's right, this might be us,

648
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: that might be the way we are. Parcels was a

649
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: three four guys whole career, and when he took over here,

650
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: it was three years in until he switched to three four.

651
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: So it's not something you do overnight. But like you said, bo,

652
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in nickel a lot now, especially the

653
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: way offenses are run now. But Alec Everson said, to

654
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: see who they keep and see who they draft. You

655
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: know that oh five draft here or it was five

656
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: or seven defensive guys, and they really braced themselves for

657
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: that chain. How about that draft that was where and

658
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Spears in the first round. I mean, you're switching to

659
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: a three to four and you get Ratliff in the

660
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: seventh round, Kevin Burnett even in the second round. It's hot.

661
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, three or four draft in history of the team.

662
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: I think Barber was in the fourth round. It was

663
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: something yeah, yeah, And that was when Parcels got involved

664
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: in the draft process, right, Yeah, I had his fingerprints

665
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: all over it. That's when he was. That's when he

666
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: was GM ready. I mean, that was it. That's why

667
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: he knows he's the best GM that he can deal with.

668
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: So to my point is okay, and I think Jason

669
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Garrett was heavily involved in the acquisition of players. And

670
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, Rick Goslin talking about one of the great

671
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: things about Jimmy as he as he put it, Goslin

672
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: talked about his you know, wearing that yeah high for talent.

673
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: He had a talent. That is something that Jason gets

674
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism on his way out as head coach.

675
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: But in building this roster, which we all think is

676
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: pretty good, he has had a voice in it. And

677
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got enough credit or people

678
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: realize that. You know, the Joneses gave him that voice

679
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: all right, the play and didn't think about the Wade

680
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Phillips era. Okay, Now that two thousand and nine draft

681
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: was about the worst. He was the worst, and now

682
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: they didn't have a first round pick, and then they

683
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: traded down in the second round. And remember that guy

684
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: that walked in the building. It was their first pick

685
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: in that draft, Jason Williams lineback or Robert Brewster, which

686
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: one maybe Williams was the first. Yeah, Robert Brewster walked

687
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: in that door, and I said, oh my god, wait

688
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: without a shirt on. I was like, wow, that's a

689
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: third round pick. His weight was a challenge. It was

690
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: a challenge for him. He wasn't around. But I never

691
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: liked the media. You guys know I'm dirty, But listen

692
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: to him right now. Sorry, How involved was weighed in

693
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: the process and the acquisition to play? I don't know why.

694
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: It seemed to have the attitude whatever you want to do,

695
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: I'll coach him up. He's had a bit overwhelmed. Yeah,

696
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm not overwhelmed, but lack of daisical is a better

697
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: word to where, like you said, just just bringing me

698
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: a guys out. Whatever you want to spile with me,

699
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: I'll coach him up and we'll be fine. I think defensively,

700
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: he weighed in on guys he thought could fit his

701
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: style of defense. Offensively, he may yeah, it may have

702
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: been more of a and Garrett the offensive coordinator, and

703
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: I know that they they valued Garrett's opinion on on

704
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: offensive players. All right, take a break and we wrap

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Speaker 1: Cowboys continues. Robis stepped out to take a calling. Yeah

743
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah, he had to go do something

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00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,200
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00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Rob is back now okay with hands up, Hey, how

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Speaker 1: So you sound just like something about I think I think. Yeah, hesitate,

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Speaker 1: and I did the same thing. Because you want to

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, Mickey's frobably getting something for it. We

755
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: should have had him call in from the road and

756
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, been something he was at the National

757
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Championship Game. He doesn't care about LSU, but he does

758
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: care about LSU because his wife cares about it very much.

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00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: He's on that man wagon. Ye. So all right, um,

760
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: what do you think of what do you think of this?

761
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: We'll go talk. I want to talk about the lack

762
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: of evolution of the defensive backs, not just in college

763
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: but also in the NFL. Well, I could say that

764
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: the other round, because I just I saw some things

765
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: last night and I've seen them throughout the year, and

766
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: I sound like the town cried here. Defensive backs are devolving.

767
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: If they're not devolving, we're not evolving along with the

768
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: rest of the positions. Because as the rule changes come about,

769
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: then there's a there's a there's an adjustment period for everyone.

770
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: Now dbs are learning. I can't I can't just go

771
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: head first. I can't use my crown. Everybody's learning, you

772
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: know how to do it, and there's there's always that

773
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: that learning curve. I get that. But there are certain

774
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: things that whether you hit the guy or not with

775
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: the crown, there are certain things whether you hit the

776
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: guy past five yards in a line of scrimmage as

777
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: and you're you're you're in a press position, there's still

778
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: certain base that don't go away. Sideline is still your friend,

779
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: the waistline doesn't move. Okay, these are things that These

780
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: are basic things that defensive backs have been taught since

781
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: before I was born. And it seems as if because

782
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: of the rule change, we want to lay on that

783
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: and depend on that. As for the reason for so

784
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: much success by these outstanding wide receivers that I spoke

785
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: of last time that are coming out and are in

786
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: the league right now, the white receivers are evolving. They're

787
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the new system that take advantage of

788
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: the rule. The defensive backs we gotta move quicker. We

789
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: have to evolve quicker, because all of a sudden, you say,

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00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: all right, Drew Brees has Michael Thomas over there, he's

791
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: got the one on one. Oh, that's pitch and catch.

792
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: They never used to say that, Bill, They never used

793
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: to say that, you can't make that automatic, okay, And

794
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: for the commentator to just think that's automatic, that is

795
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: the norm now in the NFL. And to me, I

796
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: guess I'm taking it personally because I'm a defensive back.

797
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: That was never the norm. You never had anybody say, oh, well,

798
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: Dion's over there on his wife. Michael Thomas kitching cats

799
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: by Drew Brees, and Michael thought, no, you did not

800
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: say that. You never would would even think to urge

801
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: that against mel Blunt, against all these great great defensive

802
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: backs that I've seen and tried to emulate. So to me,

803
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: I think they need some coaches in there to stop

804
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: teaching players not to turn around for the ball. Wait

805
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: till his hand goes up, then you That is a

806
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: bunch of bs and is so outdated. Whoever came up

807
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: with that. They have ruined dbs because no one now

808
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: turns around to try to make a play on the ball.

809
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: They talked about it last night. Lawrence Right Sunshine said,

810
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: if if the dB doesn't turn around, I'm throwing the ball.

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00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: I heard him say that. To me, why would a

812
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: dB not turn around? It is like, you know, let's

813
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: like saying if the dB had no ankles, I'm gonna

814
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: go after his Okay, you have ankles, you have like

815
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: you turn around? You know? To me that that that concept,

816
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: that technique that's been taught. It has ruined kids from

817
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: high school and now they're doing it in the pros

818
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: And to me, it is ruining a lot of guys careers.

819
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: And I've done camps now with kids before I tell

820
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: them this, I don't get what's going on with you guys.

821
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: What you've been taught in this camp forget. We're gonna

822
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: turned on. And it's not just me. It's all about

823
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: the narrative. If you tell a kid he can get interceptions,

824
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: you show him he can get an interceptions, he's gonna

825
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: get them. The kids are coaching camp and that's not

826
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: just me, it's the whole camp. Because we teach differently,

827
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna go You're gonna get turnovers. We got so

828
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: many turnovers one camp. It was ridiculous. And it was

829
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: all because the light turned on in their brain. It

830
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: wasn't about they became different people. They only thought differently,

831
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: and that's what we need. Are you saying dbs are

832
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: more reactionary now as opposed to aggressive and trying to

833
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: make those play. Yeah, they're not turning around. It's a reaction.

834
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: So good, that's so good because you you you voiced

835
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: it better than me. You're worried it better than I did.

836
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: They're reacting to a receiver when when his hand go up,

837
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: only do you react? I just think that is you're

838
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: you're you're you're doing a disservice to the intellect of

839
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Speaker 1: some of the defensive backs that have come around this league.

840
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: And one thing, you know, you got Gil brand out there.

841
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: I know he's missed the Hall of Fame, but back

842
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: in the day, Gil Brandon, all those uh Gill imagines.

843
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: You think I can find a wide receiver or a

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Speaker 1: defensive back on any street corner. That's what they used

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Speaker 1: to say about defensive backs and wide receivers, and that

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Speaker 1: is not true. The best defenses are because they have

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Speaker 1: the smartest defensive backs. So let's just be real old

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Speaker 1: out there, and you gotta be intelligent at every position.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't just stopped at quarter Boom in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: The reason they were so good was they had smart

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Speaker 1: dvs chan those So don't be a drone. Okay, be

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Speaker 1: your own player. Think the game. That's how I was

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Speaker 1: taught to play. Don't react like you're talking about. You

854
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Speaker 1: gotta go out there and be the dominant players you are.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's not out there waiting on somebody to turn around.

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Speaker 1: He's kicking his wide receivers. But every running his route

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Speaker 1: like Richard Sherman did against in the Minnesota game, was

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Speaker 1: that defense the whole time? I'm thinking Richard Sherman, just

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Speaker 1: the way he plays, the way he made that interception.

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Speaker 1: He controlled him immediately from the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 1: not just beat him up. He knew the route he

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Speaker 1: was running, So you have to recognize the routes of

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Speaker 1: the being run. Don't just go out there and just

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Speaker 1: drone it, okay, independent, be an independent thinker. Fifth round

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Speaker 1: draft pick us a wide receiver in college crazy and

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Speaker 1: it's so good right now he is. He is making

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Speaker 1: his mark as one of the better defensive backs to

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Speaker 1: come through the playoffs, especially, and he's turning teams around

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Speaker 1: that were not known for playing good defense. And he

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Speaker 1: went on an epic rant after the Minnesota game last

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Speaker 1: weekend all you're just saying that I don't know why

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Speaker 1: you beat you guys just constantly make excuses for why

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Speaker 1: I'm so good. Was great? All right before we wrap up, um,

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Speaker 1: because we're about out to take you further in that

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Speaker 1: earlier in the show next week. Um, Packers, Niners? Who

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Speaker 1: do you like this guy? Go? Niners? Man? I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Rogers is good, of course, but that

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Speaker 1: pack that that uh ninus defense, I can't see. I

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Speaker 1: can't see a letdown. Okay, who they remind me of?

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Speaker 1: They remind me with Bosa on coming off the edge

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Speaker 1: and they're showing up on that defensive line. I just

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Speaker 1: don't see any gaps for him at all, not any

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Speaker 1: consistent gaps. I can't think of who they remind me of.

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Speaker 1: But they are so dynamic. But I remember seeing that

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Speaker 1: linebacker Dre Greenlaw. He was a rookie. I remember seeing

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Speaker 1: him in the preseason, thinking, man, that guy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could you could tell he belongs even as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: you know. And then they lose Kwan Alexander for the

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Speaker 1: bulk of the season and he steps in and he's

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Speaker 1: making exact next man, you need to find a Dre

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Speaker 1: Greenlaw in the draft, you know, yeah, seven of them? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so who you got? Yeah, go ahead. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say Green Bay just because I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: an Aaron Rodgers Patrick Mahomes super Bowl. And you don't

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Speaker 1: think Guaffalo can can stand up? Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 1: Be the match up there? He doesn't get enough credit

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Speaker 1: for being a really good quarterback because everybody rightfully so

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Speaker 1: as you said, they talk about the defense and they

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Speaker 1: are nasty. But I usually in these games, I take

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Speaker 1: the better quarterback, and Rodgers, to me, might might be

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Speaker 1: the goat. So he's going back and this is and

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Speaker 1: they've got something cooking like he was. He was in

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Speaker 1: the zone last week. And if they can keep that up,

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Speaker 1: he's got It's like he's been waiting on the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna child. I'm gonna let Jones take care

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Speaker 1: of things then and people talking that, you know, his

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Speaker 1: stats are down whatever, but he was dominant, all right,

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Speaker 1: Titans chiefs oh Man, I cannot. I love the Titans,

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Speaker 1: and I knew they were gonna win. I knew they

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Speaker 1: were gonna win. I did did no. I love I

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Speaker 1: love of rape he's he's got a great go out

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Speaker 1: there in the running game itself. It's its defensive playoff

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Speaker 1: football that he has going on, but is dialed in.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing. Yeah, it's hard to go get spot.

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Speaker 1: And they called Mark Collins after the game. He's with

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, but I played with him in New York.

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Speaker 1: Is my fellow cornerback. He said he's never seen anything

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Speaker 1: like it. He'd be dead, and he's I've been playing

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Speaker 1: around football all my life. I've never seen anything like

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Speaker 1: what I saw today. When they announced it, they ran

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Speaker 1: out of fireworks because they scored too many. So you

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Speaker 1: need to know right there, I go Chiefs. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So you got Chiefs. I've got Chiefs Packers, Chiefs Packers,

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Speaker 1: all right. But ever since right that forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: team is I might be the most complete. Can't mess

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Speaker 1: that up. He can't mess that up. Canny can't he

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Speaker 1: mess that up? Oh? He can? He? I mean has

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Speaker 1: he has. He shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen at Seattle, and he found a way

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Speaker 1: to get that done. If they had just recovered that

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Speaker 1: on site. And the way Shanahan called plays too, I

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Speaker 1: mean he will take it out of his hands. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that running game is is just like what he

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Speaker 1: did in that game at New Orleans, you know where

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Speaker 1: they got home field, you know. So all right, does

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Speaker 1: it for this edition of Talking Cowboys and we will

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Speaker 1: talk at you again next week. Production of Dallas Cowboys

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