WEBVTT - Let's Be Merry...with Mama Rosa

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<v Speaker 1>This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. Hey, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have all enjoyed listening to this podcast as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I have enjoyed hosting it, and I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>for the new year. I'm excited for all of the

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<v Speaker 1>new guests that I have coming on. Uh We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about expert doctors that are going to talk to us

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<v Speaker 1>about cancer, what's coming up in the future for the

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<v Speaker 1>cancer world, sort of health in general, and some super

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<v Speaker 1>surprise guest from you know, just friends or people that

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with, and really going to just keep digging

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<v Speaker 1>into my life, the past, the present, in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really excited to keep sharing with you all

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<v Speaker 1>and connecting really, because that's what this podcast is about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about connecting and learning from each other. I learn

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<v Speaker 1>every single time I I host an episode. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from my guests, I learned from my doctors, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from the experience, I learned from you know, your guys comments.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just keep learning together and being joyful and and

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<v Speaker 1>being clear, because I think that being clear at this

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<v Speaker 1>point in my life is incredibly important. But right now

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing a Christmas episode. In case you didn't notice,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a Christmas tree behind me that started out

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<v Speaker 1>really ugly. And then we have my very.

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<v Speaker 2>Special guests, my mom. I'm so happy to like be

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<v Speaker 2>doing it with her, but I'm not happy because I

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<v Speaker 2>have anxiety over I'm very private basically.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is Mama Rosa Rosa to me, she's just mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we coordinated today and matching green and green, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The tree back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Started as green because the Christmas tree lot said that

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<v Speaker 1>they were done with flocking for the air. They were

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<v Speaker 1>just done with flocking, which was bizarre to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>my idea was that I was going to do this

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<v Speaker 1>like minimalist tree. So it was just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a white flocked tree with white lights and that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>like super minimalist. I thought it might be pretty, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I bought all this fake snow stuff great when

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<v Speaker 1>you have cancer, like the chemicals and that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to flock my own tree. Yes you did, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I meanwhile flocked my couch. I flocked Holly, who was

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<v Speaker 1>here for all of this, yourself. I flocked myself, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Mike. Then came over and he got flocked.

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<v Speaker 2>We were all flocked, and the tree was looking really.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really rough, a little pathetic, a little, just a little.

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<v Speaker 2>You kept asking me like, are you going to fix it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to put ornaments on it? What are

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<v Speaker 2>we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>So we did not put ornaments on. We just did

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<v Speaker 1>baby's breath and ribbons. So it's still a little bit minimalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to put on my thinking cap

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<v Speaker 1>next tour. I was supposed to go to Tennessee this

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<v Speaker 1>year with you and my brother and his wife and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, but due to weather and my dog's health,

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<v Speaker 1>we all adjusted and everybody's coming to California now.

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<v Speaker 2>So the tree was last minute. Yeah, but you did

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<v Speaker 2>a really good job, and you always do something special

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<v Speaker 2>with the tree. Our trees are always special every year

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<v Speaker 2>because you do it and you're up on the ladder

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<v Speaker 2>and the best part it makes me cry. The best

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<v Speaker 2>part is seeing you up on the ladder putting the

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<v Speaker 2>star or the angel or ribbon, big bow whatever on

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. And then I usually go to your place

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<v Speaker 2>and do your tree. Yes you do. Yeah, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>not doing yours this year.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we don't see the family's here, You're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to stay with me for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>And normally there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a theme, yes for the tree, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>theme carries out like throughout the house. So the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>packages are all wrapped pretty much the same, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do all parchment paper one year, and then the ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>will be variation on the same color. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>like brown parchment paper with like black and white striped

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<v Speaker 1>ribbon or black and white polka dot ribbon.

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<v Speaker 2>And we all have to adhere to what the color

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<v Speaker 2>scheme is. We can't go off the color scheme. One year,

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<v Speaker 2>you actually did for breast cancer a huge We did

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<v Speaker 2>one inside and it had some pink on it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then outside you did a huge tree out. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 2>was all pink. Yes, yeah, I remember that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like really that was about a wee seen or twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think was the first year.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want toy like I do supply the wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>paper for everyone, so I don't make people go out

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<v Speaker 1>and get like their own wrapping paper.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's so it'll be what you want it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks so pretty when all the presents are

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<v Speaker 1>underneath and everything's like a little coordinated.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm a little OCD. No, I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody loves it. Everybody comes and they whoever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>they always come in and they're like, this is beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>and it all just goes to the world together. How

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<v Speaker 2>did you do all of this?

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<v Speaker 1>See right from Mama Rosa's mouth, she approves it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>And we usually bake. Yes, we still have to make cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't made our Christmas cookies yet. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do. We my grandmother sends fudge, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like very good. I love Southern fudge. Yeah, it's really delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>So we bake. We figure out, like we don't just

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<v Speaker 2>do cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we do like, you know, Christmas cakes, and we

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<v Speaker 1>used to do a I guess it's like vanilla cake

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<v Speaker 1>with a cream cheese frosting and then cut it into

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of a Christmas tree and decorate it with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some green glitter and like bulbs and do

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing with like candy and everything on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't done that in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we haven't. But we haven't had like children really

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<v Speaker 2>around as much as we used to. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>friends got married, they had kids, they've moved to different places. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and Christopher took you know, my two what I call

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<v Speaker 2>my kids, my two kids to Hawaii this year or

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<v Speaker 2>so there. Why you just didn't seem like Christmas. No,

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to go to Tennessee and have a

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas hay ride and have the hometown Christmas parade. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the tornadoes came, so that kind of changed things.

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<v Speaker 2>And the dog and my dog got and the dog

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<v Speaker 2>got sick. My dog got sick. Yeah, it's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, We're in California for Christmas, which is wonderful and

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<v Speaker 1>amazing sing and I think this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about like.

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<v Speaker 1>Spending time with my brother and his wife, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has seven children, and you guys, but only three can

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<v Speaker 1>make it this year. Two are in England and two

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<v Speaker 1>more are spending it with their respective girlfriends and their families.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do get three of the kids, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's about I think for me personally, I'm just so

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<v Speaker 1>thankful to be here for another Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're thankful every day every day, and we know

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<v Speaker 2>there's years to come because we have faith that science

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<v Speaker 2>is going to bring us up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I mean, you know, it's been like the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of Christmases have been a little odd and

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really felt like Christmas. I won't get into the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why, but just hasn't. It's it's been weird. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christmas has always been a big day. It's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite holiday, not only because of the Christmas decorations and

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<v Speaker 1>people being in a joyful sort of mindset hopefully the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas lights and the stockings and the tree decorating and

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<v Speaker 1>the food and family, but also because of the meaning

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<v Speaker 1>of Christmas at Christmas, Yeah, and like what it represents

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Jesus, and so it's definitely always been

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours two right, Yes, I love Christmas. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think of another holiday. Dad loved Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad loved Christmas. Yeah, I can't think of another holiday

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<v Speaker 1>I like more than Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Just your birthday. Sometimes sometimes I don't love my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well wait till you're my age, and then somebody keeps

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<v Speaker 2>pushing birthdays at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, But yeah, when I throw you some power

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<v Speaker 1>and they're dj and dancing, you like, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they're dancing, I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this year is about just.

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<v Speaker 1>Being incredibly grateful that we're here and that we get

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<v Speaker 1>to spend time with the people that are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by our sides, through thick and thin, that don't walk away,

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<v Speaker 1>that love us unconditionally and have the same sort of

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<v Speaker 1>beliefs and morals and standards, and people that have character.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just so thankful really to be here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even got to schedule my like cancer infusions

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<v Speaker 1>where I would be recovered completely from it for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, But our friends are now family. Your friends, my

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<v Speaker 2>friends were That is family because they love us. They're

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<v Speaker 2>there for us. Not they're always there for you, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're there for me too, and it's so special. I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>don't cry, you know me.

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<v Speaker 1>I like here And so yeah, so we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>like my brother and his family gets in on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third, twenty fourth, big family dinner, twenty fifth, all

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<v Speaker 1>the leftovers.

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<v Speaker 2>All the leftovers that's really good. And games games which

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<v Speaker 2>open packages which this year we've actually been told we

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<v Speaker 2>can only buy one. But I think somebody's already cheated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've already cheated. Not me. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>just came this morning, said here, this was in your

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<v Speaker 2>stocking that was a stocking stuffer. Okay, well gift didn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a stocking stuffer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gave you your Christmas presents early, and I

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<v Speaker 1>gave you my Christion exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you and I are done. We cheated.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, oftentimes what happens during Christmas is we

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<v Speaker 1>go shopping together and then I see something that I

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<v Speaker 1>really like for her, but she's with me, and she

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<v Speaker 1>sees something that she really likes for me, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>she's with me, and so we're like, all right, here's

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<v Speaker 1>your Christmas present.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's still exciting because we get we have

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<v Speaker 2>all that time to see where we want to put

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<v Speaker 2>it and enjoy it. Hm, that's good exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's our Christmas. Just you know, reflecting on the ear,

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting for me, it's been.

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<v Speaker 2>A turbulent ear.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some massive health struggles, some massive personal struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, heartbreak and fear. But with

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, I have found that it's actually I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying this to myself the other day the other night.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's like, God, I think I'm actually starting to

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<v Speaker 1>live like the happiest version of my life. Interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>like even though it's been such a contentious year for me.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, it just feels it's gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 1>lighter lately and a lot more positive and energy in

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<v Speaker 1>my house is amazing, and the people that I'm hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with are amazing, and my heart is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>opening back up, and it just feels like the year

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<v Speaker 1>is ending well. And as long as my dog is

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<v Speaker 1>okay and my loved ones are okay, next year is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>You're now surrounded with real love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's what we're gonna do for Christmas, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a way for each other, and that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to us. It's just reflection, great joy, deep appreciation,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely and opening presents and ah, wait a minute, eating

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<v Speaker 1>like pigs and what else presents.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a whole nother thing. And that's another thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe good that you have limited the presence because even

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<v Speaker 2>as a little girl, you thought you were pulling something

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<v Speaker 2>really smart. You're the best rewrapper I've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 2>my life because you would go sneak under the tree,

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<v Speaker 2>get your presence out, unwrap them, meticulously, put them back,

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<v Speaker 2>wrap them again. That's why you are one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best rappers. I have ever seen today. You wrapped the

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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful passages. You had years of practice. I thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I did that, Oh you did. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was fun. It was joy knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>you thought you were really pulling this off and you

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<v Speaker 2>were so proud of yourself, and we just went with that.

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<v Speaker 1>What about our I mean, we also do like a

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<v Speaker 1>that started when Dad was alive, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a one upmanship thing with a present. So okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be, you know, here's all the presents. We would

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<v Speaker 1>get done opening and everybody was like, okay, we're done,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, I would be like, oh, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's one more thing here, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>present it to my parents and it was like their

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<v Speaker 1>real gift, like they're really nice, nice, nice gift, and

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<v Speaker 1>and they call on to that after the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, and the second year I did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, tears like blah blah blah. They were

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, overjoyed or just it was a lovely experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would be like, okay, all right, now, let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make Christmas breakfast, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they would be like my dad would start doing his

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<v Speaker 1>like laughing chuckle thing where he almost he would he

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<v Speaker 1>would cry from laughing so hard, but it would give

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<v Speaker 1>him so much joy to have a leg up on me.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden it would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wait, what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>What is this?

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<v Speaker 1>And they would hand me something that was like beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>and meaningful. It could have been you know, my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's football charm, remember, yes, And it's because my

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<v Speaker 1>dad played football in college for a little bit, so

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<v Speaker 1>there was there's always been that one up and ship thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty funny that it's a tradition of ours that

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<v Speaker 1>I said we're not doing this year. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>she said. That does not sound like you're adhering to it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do not adhere to it. I've good so

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<v Speaker 1>far because it's the rain. It's like I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to really get out and do anything. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I'm doing my little part time work. Am

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<v Speaker 2>I a happy place? So by the time I get off,

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<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to keep her in the rain so

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<v Speaker 1>that she can't do any shopping and there's no one upmanship.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so that is our Christmas and we really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really wish you all a very merry Christmas, a

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<v Speaker 1>very happy holidays. Whatever you celebrate, I hope that it

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<v Speaker 1>brings you deep joy and close to family loved ones,

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<v Speaker 1>remembering that family is, you know, not always biological. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's just your friends that become your family, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends are.

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<v Speaker 2>And gratitude for what we've all been given.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and peace, like at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day that we all have peace, and our peace is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Acceptance of others.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's been a tumultuous year for the

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<v Speaker 1>world in general, and my Christmas wish is that somehow

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<v Speaker 1>it ends in a peaceful manner that where people learn

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<v Speaker 1>to love and accept one another. And that's it right now, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like season three.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots and lots of love to all of you out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't worry, my mom will be back for another

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<v Speaker 1>episode that's not a Christmas episode talking about about all

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<v Speaker 1>things Shannon, because she just told you a little story

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<v Speaker 1>about me being a kid on wrapping presents and putting

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<v Speaker 1>them all back together, so I'm sure she has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more like that. Oh maybe so good luck to

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<v Speaker 1>all of you this year. May next year bring you

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<v Speaker 1>an abundance of love and joy and peace, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you from me and Mama Rosa.

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<v Speaker 2>Marry, Merry Christmas, everybody, Happy Holidays,