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Speaker 1: This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys have all enjoyed listening to this podcast as much

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Speaker 1: as I have enjoyed hosting it, and I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: for the new year. I'm excited for all of the

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Speaker 1: new guests that I have coming on. Uh We're talking

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Speaker 1: about expert doctors that are going to talk to us

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Speaker 1: about cancer, what's coming up in the future for the

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Speaker 1: cancer world, sort of health in general, and some super

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Speaker 1: surprise guest from you know, just friends or people that

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Speaker 1: I've worked with, and really going to just keep digging

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Speaker 1: into my life, the past, the present, in the future.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to keep sharing with you all

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Speaker 1: and connecting really, because that's what this podcast is about.

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Speaker 1: It's about connecting and learning from each other. I learn

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Speaker 1: every single time I I host an episode. I learned

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Speaker 1: from my guests, I learned from my doctors, I learned

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Speaker 1: from the experience, I learned from you know, your guys comments.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's just keep learning together and being joyful and and

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Speaker 1: being clear, because I think that being clear at this

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Speaker 1: point in my life is incredibly important. But right now

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Speaker 1: we're doing a Christmas episode. In case you didn't notice,

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Speaker 1: there is a Christmas tree behind me that started out

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Speaker 1: really ugly. And then we have my very.

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Speaker 2: Special guests, my mom. I'm so happy to like be

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Speaker 1: So this is Mama Rosa Rosa to me, she's just mom.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we coordinated today and matching green and green, and.

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Speaker 1: Started as green because the Christmas tree lot said that

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Speaker 1: they were done with flocking for the air. They were

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Speaker 1: just done with flocking, which was bizarre to me. And

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Speaker 1: my idea was that I was going to do this

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Speaker 1: like minimalist tree. So it was just going to be

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Speaker 1: like super minimalist. I thought it might be pretty, and

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Speaker 1: so I bought all this fake snow stuff great when

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Speaker 1: I decided to flock my own tree. Yes you did, Yes.

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Speaker 1: I meanwhile flocked my couch. I flocked Holly, who was

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Speaker 1: here for all of this, yourself. I flocked myself, my

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Speaker 1: friend Mike. Then came over and he got flocked.

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Speaker 2: We were all flocked, and the tree was looking really.

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Speaker 1: Really really rough, a little pathetic, a little, just a little.

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Speaker 2: You kept asking me like, are you going to fix it?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to put ornaments on it? What are

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Speaker 1: So we did not put ornaments on. We just did

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have to put on my thinking cap

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Speaker 1: next tour. I was supposed to go to Tennessee this

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Speaker 1: the kids, but due to weather and my dog's health,

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Speaker 1: we all adjusted and everybody's coming to California now.

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Speaker 2: So the tree was last minute. Yeah, but you did

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Speaker 2: a really good job, and you always do something special

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Speaker 2: with the tree. Our trees are always special every year

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Speaker 2: because you do it and you're up on the ladder

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Speaker 2: and the best part it makes me cry. The best

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Speaker 2: star or the angel or ribbon, big bow whatever on

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Speaker 2: the tree. And then I usually go to your place

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Speaker 2: and do your tree. Yes you do. Yeah, so we're

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Speaker 2: not doing yours this year.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't see the family's here, You're just going

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Speaker 2: And normally there's.

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Speaker 1: Like a theme, yes for the tree, and then the

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm a little OCD. No, I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves it. Everybody comes and they whoever it is,

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Speaker 1: See right from Mama Rosa's mouth, she approves it's all good.

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Speaker 1: And we usually bake. Yes, we still have to make cookies.

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Speaker 2: No, we haven't. But we haven't had like children really

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Speaker 2: so there. Why you just didn't seem like Christmas. No,

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Speaker 1: Anyway, We're in California for Christmas, which is wonderful and

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Speaker 1: Spending time with my brother and his wife, and he

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Speaker 2: Well, we're thankful every day every day, and we know

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I mean, you know, it's been like the

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Speaker 1: and Christmas has always been a big day. It's my

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Speaker 1: Christmas lights and the stockings and the tree decorating and

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Speaker 1: the food and family, but also because of the meaning

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Speaker 1: of Christmas at Christmas, Yeah, and like what it represents

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Speaker 1: and you know, Jesus, and so it's definitely always been

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite holidays.

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Speaker 2: Yours two right, Yes, I love Christmas. I mean I

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Speaker 2: can't think of another holiday. Dad loved Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Dad loved Christmas. Yeah, I can't think of another holiday

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Speaker 2: Well wait till you're my age, and then somebody keeps

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Speaker 2: So I think this year is about just.

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Speaker 1: Being incredibly grateful that we're here and that we get

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Speaker 1: And I'm just so thankful really to be here for it.

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Speaker 1: And I even got to schedule my like cancer infusions

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But our friends are now family. Your friends, my

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Speaker 2: All the leftovers that's really good. And games games which

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Speaker 2: stocking that was a stocking stuffer. Okay, well gift didn't count.

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Speaker 1: And I gave you your Christmas presents early, and I

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, oftentimes what happens during Christmas is we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still exciting because we get we have

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Speaker 1: You know, some massive health struggles, some massive personal struggles,

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Speaker 1: Actually it's like, God, I think I'm actually starting to

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Speaker 1: like even though it's been such a contentious year for me.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, it just feels it's gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: my house is amazing, and the people that I'm hanging

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Speaker 1: going to be beautiful.

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Speaker 2: You're now surrounded with real love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what we're gonna do for Christmas, and

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Speaker 2: And gratitude for what we've all been given.

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Speaker 1: episode that's not a Christmas episode talking about about all

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Speaker 2: Marry, Merry Christmas, everybody, Happy Holidays,