1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: First day of follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 2: Oliver is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Sarah and has 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: no idea why. So we're going to call her in 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: a few minutes and see if she'll tell us why 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: she's ghosting him. But first, Oliver, how long has it 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: been since you heard from Sarah? 9 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: It's been about a week. 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 4: How many times you try to get ahold of her 11 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 4: in that week? 12 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: Well, I was texting her for the first couple days, 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: three days, and I sent like a text message and 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: she like replied like really short, and then like the 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 3: next day I didn't hear anything, And then the next 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: day I didn't hear anything either. So then I tried 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: to call her, and then after that I just I 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: was like, you know, I don't want to seem too 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: much like a stalker, so let me just just back 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: off a little bit. So I haven't personally reached out 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: to her in like two days now. 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: All right, so we give her a little break for 23 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 5: a couple of days. Let's right, let's go back at 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 5: your date. Can you tell us about that? 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we met up at a bar and we 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: were going to get a drink or two because I 27 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: had made reservations, so we were just kind of waiting 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: for those to get to get like. 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: Get the tailor ready. 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: And but there was this really dope band that was 31 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: playing in the bar area and me and who were 32 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: just really enjoying the music, and we kind of talked 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: about it, like, you know what, we can order food 34 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: at the bar. Let's you know, let's just chill here. 35 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: So I went and canceled the reservation and we just 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: had some food there at the bar, had some drinks 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: and really enjoyed this cool band and that. Yeah, and 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: that was the date. And then after that I drove 39 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: her home and left her there, said good night and yeah, 40 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: so it's really weird. I feel like we had an 41 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: awesome time. 42 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: So you just said good night, No kiss, handshake, a hug. 43 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Was there any kind of interaction other than just buy 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: I guess I'm saying yeah. 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't feel like I should go in 46 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: for the kids, but I definitely hug her and I said, hey, 47 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: I would love to hand again, see you again. I 48 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: don't want I'm not too forwardive a guy like that, 49 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: but I you know, I definitely wanted to, Okay. 50 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 6: Of course, did you feel like she wanted to? 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's that's the thing, Like she she 52 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: seemed excited in her response about going on another date, 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: and it wasn't like a quick little hog like it was. 54 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: It was a nice little embrace, like just you know, 55 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: you know when someone really enjoys hugging and it kind 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: of there's a little squeeze and yeah. 57 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 5: So then what about like on the date, was there 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 5: anything that was awkward that would make or not want 59 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 5: to call you back? Or is there anything really great 60 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: that happened? 61 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: Could she have also wanted to go to the dinner 62 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: reservation and like not wanted to stay and listen to 63 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: the music? 64 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: Like do you think she could have met about that? 65 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: No? I mean she she's actually the one that kind 66 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 3: of first suggested it. But you know, there was one 67 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: thing when when I walked back to the bar after 68 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: canceling the reservation, she was like kind of talk to 69 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: this guy and it was it sounded like it was 70 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: a little heated, like maybe they were arguing about something. 71 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: I mean, it seemed like she knew him. What could 72 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: have been an ex or friend or something else. I'm 73 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: not too sure, but like when I asked her about it, 74 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: she was just like, oh, he was like trying to 75 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: hit on me, and you know, I kind of think 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: of it now. She did seem a little off after 77 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: that interaction. Okay, maybe it was an X. Maybe it 78 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: was a you know, a friendship gone wrong, or you 79 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: didn't ask her like she just kind of she was like, oh, 80 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: you know, he's just hitting on me. 81 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 6: Was she sitting next to you and she was getting 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 6: hit on? 83 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: I saw it. I wasn't like physically there, but I 84 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: could see it as I was walking up, and by 85 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: the time I got there, the guy had already. 86 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: Gone, but it looked like it was heated. 87 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: She didn't seem amused by it. 88 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll try and figure it out. We'll play song 89 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: come back and then call her, get her on the 90 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: phone and ask her why she's ghosting you, and maybe 91 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: get you another date. 92 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that'd be perfect, all right, play. 93 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: Song I about to get your first DA follow up. 94 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Next first Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 95 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 96 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of your First Date follow Up 97 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: and Oliver is on the phone today. He's getting ghosted 98 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: by Sarah. He doesn't know why. So we're about to 99 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: call her in just a second and see if she'll 100 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting. 101 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: Him and maybe get him another date. 102 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: But first, Oliver, why don't you catch everybody up on 103 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 2: your date with Sarah. 104 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to a bar and we're going to 105 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: have dinner at a restaurant. And we had a great 106 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: time at the bar because it was live music, so 107 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: we decided to stay there and we had it at 108 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: a great time and it seemed like a pleasant evening. 109 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: You want to drop her off, but now I can't 110 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: get a hold of her. 111 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: All right, Well, we'll see if we can figure it out. 112 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: Here we go. 113 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Hello, him, I speak to Sarah. Please since her. Hey Sarah, 114 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: how are you? My name is juwbul from radio show 115 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: called The Jubil Show. 116 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 6: Hi, Sarah, I'mnan also on the show. 117 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: Hi I'm Victoria. Oh hey, Hi, what's up? You listen 118 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: to the show? 119 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 120 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, sweet? 121 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: I love it. 122 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 7: Why are you guys calling me. 123 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: Because somebody else listens to the show too? 124 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot. 125 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 7: Of people listen to you guys. 126 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: This is a person that you know. 127 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: Oh okay, and they wanted us to call you because 128 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: you went out on a date with them and now 129 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: you're ghosting them. 130 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 7: Oh okay, Okay, I think I know who you're talking about. 131 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: This is a first date follow up. 132 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: And Oliver is a guy who emailed us and said 133 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: he went on a date with you and he doesn't 134 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: know why you're ghosting and he thought everything was cool. 135 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 6: Oh Oliver, Yeah, that guy, Oliver. 136 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 7: You know what, He's actually a really good person. 137 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: He's a good guy. 138 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Well he told us about your date. If he's a 139 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: good guy, why don't you want to go out with 140 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: him again? 141 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 6: You know? 142 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 7: It is not I don't that's funny. It's not him, 143 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 7: it's me. 144 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: I just don't know what I want. 145 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 7: I'm getting out of a relationship, and I don't know 146 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 7: for sure I'm going to get out of it or not. 147 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: My ex keeps blowing up my phone. I was in 148 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: a two year relationship. 149 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 7: So it's just really hard because I just don't know 150 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 7: exactly what I want. I don't know if I want 151 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 7: to move on and date other people or just be 152 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 7: single for a while, or get back together with my ex. 153 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: So I'm just confused. 154 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 6: I get that. Why did you go on a date 155 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 6: in the first place, though, because. 156 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 7: I didn't know what I wanted, so I wanted to 157 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 7: go out. I still don't know what I want. 158 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: Well, who was on drive? 159 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 7: What? 160 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 161 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: That was Oliver? Sarah? Or he's actually on the phone 162 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: listening and let's talk to you. 163 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, who was he? 164 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: That was my ex? 165 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 7: What that I I didn't want to say anything to 166 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 7: you because I didn't I didn't know how you would 167 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 7: take the situation. I just went through a breakup, of 168 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 7: going through a breakup. My ex isn't happy, he still 169 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 7: wants me back. I don't know what I want, and 170 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 7: so I just didn't say anything. It was awkward, and 171 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 7: so I just went on to the date. My ex left. 172 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 7: He didn't stay there. You date? So, yeah, he saw 173 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 7: he saw that I was on a date. He got 174 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 7: it on my friend's app, and he couldn't stand that 175 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 7: I was with another guy. So he showed up and 176 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 7: he was, you know, wanting to ask questions and all 177 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 7: that stuff. 178 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: I mean, like, why couldn't you just tell me that, 179 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: like you are you? Are you back with him? Like 180 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: what's the deal? 181 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 7: Like I know I'm not back with him? I just 182 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: don't know what I want. I wanted to go out 183 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 7: on a date with you to see that's what I want, 184 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 7: and then he showed up, and so now I'm thinking, 185 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 7: I'm just confused because he's bringing back all the good 186 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 7: things that I have. I'm like, why we should break 187 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 7: up and why we should be back together again. So 188 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 7: I just don't know what I want, Like, I don't 189 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 7: know if I want to get back together with him 190 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 7: or if I just want to be single and have 191 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 7: a good time or go out with you. 192 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 6: Sarah, you did tell us that you're talking to him. 193 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 7: Though I am talking to my acts. Yeah, of course 194 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 7: it was two years. I don't know exactly what I mean. 195 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 7: I can't just end it. 196 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 6: I feel like that's fair. 197 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: But then why go on a date with Oliver and 198 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: like ghost him? 199 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, because I mean that's what dating. 200 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: You go out and you date. 201 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 7: Someone and you just get to note them, Like, I mean, 202 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 7: it's not it's not like her boyfriend girlfriend, But. 203 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: You don't usually go on a date with someone when 204 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: you're still in a relationship with someone else, Like, like, 205 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: how does that make any sure? Like are you just 206 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: trying to am I? Like a am I a booty call, 207 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: like you're trying to hook up with me, and like, well, what's. 208 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 7: Wrong with a booty call? Maybe it takes another guy 209 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 7: to get over the other guy. 210 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: Well I'm not that guy, Like I'm trying to find 211 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: like a relationship, you know, Like I'm trying to be 212 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: that guy. I'm not trying to just be hooking up 213 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: with whoever. Especially yeah, that you don't don't until you. 214 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 7: Hook up with me. 215 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm a little old friend means I don't think 216 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: that's I don't think that's true. But even still, like 217 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: like what if I was there, Like would your ex 218 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: have like punched me in the face, Like, no, he's 219 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: not violent. He might he's not violent. 220 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 7: He probably would just stare at your say somewhere I 221 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 7: don't know, but he left, So he left. 222 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: He didn't say. 223 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: Nobody asks for my advice. But whenever a third party, 224 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 5: like as in an X, shows up on a date, 225 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 5: it's never a good sign. Usually they continue to pop 226 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 5: up and even sometimes break into the house and look 227 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: at you in bed with that person while you're sleeping. 228 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: Well, and break into the house and look at you 229 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: while you're specific. 230 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 5: That's why I said, nobody asked my advice, Well, I 231 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 5: have experience in this and just let just so you 232 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: know when the X pops up on a date run. 233 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that would have been good to. 234 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: Know, Oliver would ran 235 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Juble's first day follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 236 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Attorney online at ADVOCATESLA dot com