1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Once again. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm your host Tatum Everett, and we've got one of 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 2: our best shows yet coming up. The Viking secured a 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: dominant win over the Commanders at home, blanking Washington thirty 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: one zip. So many good things happened in the most 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: complimentary game of the season. Now, Vikings fans will be 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: waiting all day for Sunday night when the Vikes travel 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: to Dallas to face the Cowboys. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: On Sunday Night Football. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: But you can watch NFL Game Day morning on the 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: NFL Network, bringing at eight am on Sunday to catch 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: our next podcast guest, Kurt Warner, the Super Bowl winning QB, 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: caught up with me about playing through adversity and his 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: thoughts on Vikings. QB JJ McCarthy joining us today is 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: a true NFL legend, guiding the Saint Louis Ram's greatest 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: show on turf, winning two league MVPs and MVP in 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety nine, Hey through for 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: thirty two thousand YA and guided two franchises to Super 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Bowls as well as being inducted is. 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame. 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: Kurt Order, we are so excited to have you here 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: on our channel. 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: How are you doing. 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: I am doing great. Thank you so much for having me. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: Well I really want to pick that elite quarterback mind 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: of yours. As we've seen JJ McCarthy come into his 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: own here in the second in his second year in 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 2: the NFL. 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: You've watched and analyzed a lot of his film. 31 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: What did you see in his performance on Sunday in 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: the win against the Commanders. 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think there's a there's always a 34 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: combination of things, and so you know, I broke down 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: JJ a couple of weeks ago one of his performances, 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: and you know, I was talking a lot about in 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: their system, how you know that they asked the quarterbacks 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: to start one place and then work through their progressions 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: from there. And I felt like in that performance he 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: was he was slow getting from one to the next. Guy. Okay, 41 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: So when that happens, obviously you can miss a lot 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: of things. Things can break down in front of you, 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: and some of those things can happen. So when we 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: go to this past week's performance, I thought that process 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: was sped up for him, and I think there was 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: a couple of reasons. First, you know, when your number 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: one receiver is open more often than they're not, makes 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: the game a little bit easier where it's more about 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: pitch and catch and just getting back and throwing the football. 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: And so a number of those things happened. So coach, 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: you know, Koc did a great job of designing some 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: things to allow him to have some easier reads from 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: that perspective, and then he made the throws and then 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: the times where he had to kind of process and 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: see through it. I thought he did a much better 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: job this time around at at you know, getting through 57 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: those things a little bit faster so he didn't have 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: to speed up the throw part of it, because that's 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: the other thing. When you're playing late as a quarterback 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you see something and it's like, 61 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I got to be I should have 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: been there, and I gotta throw it now, you speed 63 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: up the process of throwing it. And I think that 64 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: was part of some of his issues with accuracy early 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: in the year, was he was a little bit late 66 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: on things. So he's trying to throw things a little 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: bit harder. He's trying to speed up the process, and 68 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: it's going to lead to more airrant throw. So the 69 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: more he can slow things down, obviously, the more that 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: coach can call plays that that get his first guy open. 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 3: But the more he can slow things down, be more 72 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: comfortable with what he's seeing and play the game at 73 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: you know, at a slower pace when it comes time 74 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: to throw it, the better he's going to be. And 75 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: you know what, you're always hoping for these young guys. 76 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: And again, I know we talk about him as a 77 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: second year guy, but let's be honest, this is really 78 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: his rookie year from standpoint of playing. You want to 79 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: see the ascension. You want to see guys, you know, 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: start the season somewhere and then make slow upticks along 81 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: the way. And you know, the unfortunate thing for JJ, 82 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: and I keep saying it, is that this team won 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: fourteen games a year ago, and they've got a lot 84 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: of talent on the team, and they chose to go 85 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: with the young guy, And so everybody expected the same 86 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: sort of results from this team because the team's the same. 87 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: But you know, he's a second year quarterback and he 88 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: hasn't played a lot of football and he's trying to 89 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: fit in and figure it out. And so I think 90 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: our expectations for this team and for him were way 91 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: too high from the get go, and if we would 92 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: just step back and go, okay's forget about the team 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: and let's just look at a rookie quarterback and what 94 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: we're expecting and start one and what we're expecting halfway 95 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: through the season with the guy who's been injured a 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: couple of times. You want to just see the progress 97 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: being made. And if last week is any indication, you know, 98 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: there's definitely been some progress to where he was earlier 99 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: in the year. 100 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: When you think of how he made that progress in 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Sunday's game, whether it was the different types of plays 102 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: that were called, the schemes that set him up, well, 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: where do you go next in order for him to 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: build and grow and off of that performance? 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: Again, there's always, you know, two sides to the story. 106 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: Is there's the one side as a coach of going, Okay, 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: this is what this defense does that we're playing against, 108 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: this is how we're going to attack on. These are 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: the things that we like, These are the plays that 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: we're going to put in. And then there's the other 111 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: side of it going but where is JJ what is 112 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: he comfortable with? What are things that he does well 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: that we can also have success against this defense with 114 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: so we're not constantly throwing new things at him where 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: he can't play his best. And so that's the challenge, 116 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: you know, every week with great offensive minds like you 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: know Koc that sees it and wants to create it 118 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: and wants to create the perfect play to get the 119 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: big play because he's so good at that, and then 120 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: realizing what you have as a young quarterback. You know, 121 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: you don't have a Sam Darnold that's been in the 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: league for a long time, or Kirk Cousins has been 123 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: in the league for a long time and has seen 124 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: and run a lot of different things. You got a 125 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: young guy that you're trying to bring along. So you 126 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: need to try to keep him as much in his 127 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: comfort zone as you can while still attacking the defense 128 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: and having success with it. And so it's always, you know, 129 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: a challenge. It's always a juggling act for these really 130 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: good coaches to be able to do that, you know, 131 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: and because a lot of times they got to settle 132 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: for like, Okay, we can't do everything I want to do, 133 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: you know, and then you come out of a game 134 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: and you didn't have as much success, and you're like, 135 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: I wish I, you know, would have done this, or 136 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: I wish I could have done that, while at the 137 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: same time going but the bigger picture is we've got 138 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: to get this young man ready to win US championships 139 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: at some point, and we have to realize that's not 140 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: this year. You know, we can't expect that from him 141 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: this year. And you've got to, you know, fight those 142 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: two balances of winning and playing your best football while 143 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: also bringing along a young quarterback. Right. 144 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: I mean, there is a very very very small percentage 145 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: the bet the Vikings will make the playoffs. The NFC 146 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: is just so good this year. And when you think 147 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: of these final games of the year, what do you 148 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: want to see or what would you want Viking fans 149 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: to hope to see from JJ to see that the 150 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: future for next season is a good one, is a 151 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: positive one. 152 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you want to continue to see steady growth, 153 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: you know. And that's the biggest thing is that you 154 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: want to try to use these last four games to 155 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: build into next year, you know. And that doesn't mean 156 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: you're giving up on this year and you're not saying, hey, 157 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: let's try to win them all and see if we 158 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: can get in the playoffs. But the idea is simply, 159 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: let's keep getting better, let's keep building, Let's go into 160 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: the off season with everybody feeling really good about where 161 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: we're at, or in this specific case, let's get everybody 162 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: feeling really good about the quarterback that's in our room 163 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: and what he can be for us. That's the fan base, 164 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: that's the team in general, that's the coaches, that's the quarterback. 165 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: You know, like, we want him going into the off 166 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: season feeling really good that we're putting him in a 167 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: position to play his best football and to help us win. 168 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: And so that to me is kind of the underlying 169 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: thing that you're trying to accomplish in these last four 170 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: games is play good football. Be competitive. I mean, you know, 171 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: coming off the game this past weekend, I mean, huge 172 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: Updick JJ plays great, you get a huge win. You 173 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: start to see, okay, you know, maybe we're not that 174 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: far off. I mean, you don't blow people out in 175 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: the NFL unless you're playing good football. You don't fall 176 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: into those games very often. So it's a great start 177 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: for them, you know, down the stretch here, even if 178 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: they don't make the playoffs. But that to me is 179 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: what you're looking to do. You're looking to walk off 180 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: the field after Week seventeen going okay. I like where 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: we're at going into the offseason and into next season. 182 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: This is something that we can build. 183 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Up when the Vikings do face a tough challenge though 184 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: this week, when they face an experienced quarterback in Dallas. 185 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is having a great year. He's got some 186 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: of the most skilled players on the roster as long 187 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: as Ceedee Lamb. 188 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Is able to play. 189 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: You've also got George Pickens, Jake Ferguson with that incredible 190 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: catch the other night. When you are Brian Flores and 191 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: you're dialing up what you want to do against that 192 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: Dallas offense, what are you thinking you can take advantage 193 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: of just to slow them down on Sunday? 194 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: Well, coach Flores does a great job of keeping you 195 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: off balance, especially in third down situations, and so I know, 196 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: you know his goal is going to be to win 197 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: first and second down. That's where they're so good defensively. 198 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: And you know Dallas, you know where they've been their 199 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: most successful is when they win early downs. You know, 200 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: because they've been able to run the football and do 201 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: some of those things. So I think it starts right 202 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: there is, you know, coming up with a plan to 203 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: slow them down early so you can use that blitz 204 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: package to create some negative plays and you know, force 205 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: Dak to have to think and maybe make some mistakes. 206 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: And then I think the other area, you know, while 207 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: you're trying to balance all of that out, is just 208 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: not giving up the big plays. You know, Dallas's offense 209 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: is built on the big pass plays, pushing the ball 210 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: down the field, you know, George Pickens, you know, stretching 211 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: the field with him, ceedee lamb. The chunk plays work 212 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: in the middle of the field. But that's what they 213 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: do so well. And for any offense, even the best 214 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: offense in the league, when you can take away the 215 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: big plays and force them to make ten and twelve 216 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: play drives, you know, again to really good defense, that 217 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 3: can create havoc. That's when you win these type of 218 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: football games. So going into this game, that's to me, 219 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: what it's all about. Don't give up the big plays, 220 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: the easy chunk plays, and then force Dallas, you know, 221 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: into some third and longer situations where you know that 222 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: blitz package of of you know, Minnesota can can really 223 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: create havoc and create some negative plays and hopefully give 224 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: the ball back to their offense and JJ McCarthy a 225 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: few more times. 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they would bring up another nineteen play ninety 227 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: eight yard involvement and drive. 228 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Who knows. 229 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: Ye Oh, one last thing before we go, Kurty, because 230 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: our engineer cole Kin and I were talking about what 231 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: to ask you a little bit before this, and so 232 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to to I can't take credit for this, 233 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: but when you think of Brian Flores's defense and so 234 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: many exotic defenses that we see that make so many 235 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: different checks and movements at the line, how much of 236 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: that were you seeing then? And how's that really evolved 237 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: since you've played the game. 238 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we would see some, but maybe not 239 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: to the extent that you see now. You know, you 240 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: see a lot more of this. Everybody walks up. You know, 241 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: it's what we would call a blitz zero look. So 242 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: for those listening at home that may not know, the 243 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: blitz zero look is obviously straight man across the board. 244 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: Everybody else is up at the line of scrimmage and 245 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, looking as if they're going to bring all 246 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: those defenders, which usually means we can't block them all 247 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: and so there's going to be an extra defender somewhere, 248 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: and we got to get the ball out of our 249 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: hands quickly and make a play. But now you're seeing 250 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: a lot of teams, and obviously you see it on 251 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: a weekly basis is Coach Flores does a great job 252 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: of giving you those looks and then running out of 253 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: those looks to a variety of different zone coverages. You know, 254 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: he'll bring some guys, he'll drop some guys, but they 255 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: have the ability to get back to a lot of 256 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: their different coverages from that. And that's the thing I 257 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: don't think we saw as much when I was playing. 258 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: You know, we would see, you know, the walk up 259 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: players with the guys in the A gaps and people 260 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: popping out and some of that, but not to the 261 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: where you have so many guys at the line of 262 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: scrimmage and then the you know, the ability for anybody 263 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: to drop out right, you're gonna see on a weekly basis. 264 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: You know, defensive tackles pop out, defensive ends pop out. 265 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: When I was playing, those guys weren't quite as athletic 266 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: as they are now, So most of the guys popping 267 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: out were the linebackers, or the safeties, not those big 268 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: defensive linemen. But now those guys are so versatile that 269 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: you can blit anybody and you can drop anybody and 270 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: still have a good chance to be successful in your 271 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: zone coverage. So that, to me, where is where it's 272 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: gotten more complex, and specifically on third down and why 273 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, it's so key for teams to stay out 274 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: of those third and long situations where you've got to 275 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: hold the football and throw it down the field because 276 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 3: they create some easy opportunities in the pass rush and 277 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: three rushers on the quarterback that make it really really hard. 278 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: Okay, not to really put you on this spot, because 279 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: I told you I wasn't we weren't going to even 280 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: talk about this, But have you have you seen any 281 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: of that reflected in college? Does that make the quarterback 282 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: transition even more difficult because it's something never seen? 283 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're seeing it to the degree 284 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: that you see it at the NFL level. There's just 285 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: not the time and the sophistication to it. At the 286 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: college level, you know, you might see aspects of it 287 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 3: that are going to be much easier, much more defined. 288 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: You know, where Brian Flores might have ten different calls 289 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: from that look. A college team may have two or three. Okay, 290 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: so now you know, okay, I'm either getting this or 291 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm getting that, and so yeah, you make that transition 292 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: to the NFL. Yeah, it's very difficult. And then the 293 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: next piece to it is that I don't think even 294 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 3: NFL offenses do a great job of creating easy, hot opportunities, 295 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: right quick throws against pressure for their quarterback. So now 296 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: you're getting all these looks and you want to try 297 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: to solve those looks with protections and backs and protection, 298 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: it's not going to happen. So it leads to so 299 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: many negative plays every week because they don't have the 300 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: proper answers or because they're not ready to handle it 301 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: and come up with the proper answers in the those 302 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: type of situations. And so I do believe it's more sophisticated, 303 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 3: but when guys aren't ready for it and they come 304 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: to this level, it's a tough thing to be able 305 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: to decipher and get the ball out and continually make 306 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: positive plays against looks like that. 307 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: All right, well, Kurt, thank you so much for your 308 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: time today. We really appreciate the insight, and of course 309 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: you can watch him on NFL Game Day mornings starting 310 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: at eight am Central Time on the NFL Network. Check 311 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: that out Sunday before the Vikings play later that night. 312 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: Get your football all day. Thank you so much, Kurt, 313 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: You guy it. 314 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 315 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to Kurt Warner for joining MVP. 316 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: We will have more for you after the short break, 317 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: including nine to noons Eric. 318 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Norquist, So stay tuned. 319 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: Say hello to flawlessly smooth skin at pure Lux Medspa, 320 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: the preferred medspa of the Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders, specializing in 321 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: elite laser hair removal, body contouring, botox, cosmetic filler, and 322 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: age defying skincare treatments such as diamond Glow and skin 323 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: p for collagen induction therapy. Visit my pure lux dot 324 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: com backslash Vikings for exclusive offers to Vikings fans. 325 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: It's game day in the Twin Cities. 326 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Time to treat yourself like a champ at Spolon Montage, 327 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: the premier salon and spa. 328 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Luxury is always the winning play. 329 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: Purchase a one hundred and seventy five dollars gift card 330 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: online and get a twenty five dollars bonus card for 331 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: you shop now at spolon dot com and gift yourself 332 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: the luxury of Spolan Montage. Welcome back into the Minnesota 333 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: Vikings Podcast. I'm your host, Tatum Everett. If you missed 334 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: our first guest of the evening, Hall of Fame quarterback 335 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner joined us and you can find that interview 336 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: anywhere you listen to your favorite podcasts or Vikings dot 337 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: com or the Vikings app. We now have one of 338 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: our favorite friends of the program joining the show. Let's 339 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,359 Speaker 2: get to our chat with nine to Noons Eric Norquist. 340 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Well, hey, Nordoh, how's it going. We aren't talked in 341 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's been a while. It's been a while, 342 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: and a lot has happened. Well, yeah, I mean different got. 343 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: Shut out and then we shut out a team. 344 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: Right, it's been it's been a while, and like, what 345 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: a difference it feels like today as opposed to previous 346 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: time as we've talked, where you know, the first shoutouts 347 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. 348 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Three, you get this victory. 349 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: What are what is going on in the mind of 350 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: Minnesota sports fan as you are, you know, assessing the 351 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: current Viking situation. 352 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think for the most most part, the way 353 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: we've handled it nine to noon. Is we just the 354 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: the a topic for this team with five wins. I 355 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: want to see JJ McCarthy take steps. I want to 356 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: see him evolve. I want to see him to see 357 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: feel success is good, us to see success is good. 358 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: So I think I think the majority of fans, uh, 359 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: not apathetic, but but in the same sense, I think 360 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: they've already kind of maybe transition their mind, like want 361 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: to see the QB play well, but now they're already 362 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: thinking about as soon as things go south, a lot 363 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: of fans start thinking about draft position. 364 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Did you get any of that this fan line even 365 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: after the win? 366 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 367 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, there was kind of this, this kind of 368 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: this cross cut where celebrating that JJ took some baby steps, 369 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: which I think he did some measurably better things than 370 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: we've seen from him. So that was exciting. No turnovers, 371 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: three touchdowns, just quicker processing. Sure, there's a lot of 372 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: negativity and losing. So you know, for me, whether it 373 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 4: was seeing that shut out on Sunday, and I think 374 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: for most fans as well, getting to see success from 375 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy. Finally, how about a complimentary effort right defense 376 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: take away? 377 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: Well, all three phases. 378 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: Great. 379 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: You got to see Kevin O'Connell run the ball really 380 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 4: more with more commitment, maybe at least within a single game, 381 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 4: than we've seen through his entire time here as head coach. 382 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 383 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about it, this was the 384 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: starting group you had your eyes on in trading. 385 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 386 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: And the Vikings and Cowboys have quite the history. Obviously 387 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: they play each other on Sunday Night Football this week. 388 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: You can date back to one of the best rivalries 389 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies between those two teams. 390 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: See, oh that's so yeah, Yeah, that is true. 391 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't I'm not emotionally compelled by the off 392 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: the way that some of are older. 393 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Item seventy five. Yeah, yeah, I know. 394 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 4: I've been told team goes to four Super Bowls. But 395 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: that was the team. That's what Vikings fans, older ones 396 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: have told me is that was the team. And that's 397 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 4: why that push off to this day still means what 398 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: it does. 399 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: It does mean a lot. The Herschel Walker trade. 400 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: Some other iconic memories, Randy Moss's three touchdown game. 401 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: Now we're now we're creeping into my Yeah that was yeah, 402 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: that was that was fourteen year old Nordo. I think 403 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: it's thirteen or fourteen years old when when he had 404 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving the three catches, three touchdowns like a buck 405 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: sixty five. 406 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah and so and so, this one's gonna be an 407 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: interesting one. Hopefully there's another iconic moment. However, there's just 408 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: not as much on the line. I think the Cowboys 409 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 2: went from like nineteen percent playoff chances to six percent 410 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: right now. 411 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: Well, the Cowboys, I would say this, I don't know 412 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 4: what the percentages are, but they do play the Eagles again. 413 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: They beat them in that comeback effort two three weeks ago. 414 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: Well the Eagles at six, six and one, you got 415 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 4: the you got Jalen Hurts just throwing it around on 416 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 4: the gym, and then suddenly they're eight and five. So 417 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: they're just a game and a half back. I think 418 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna get a really motivated Cowboys team. We can 419 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: really only make the playoffs if they win the NFC East, yes, 420 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: just because of how stack the NFC West and Bears 421 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 4: and Pack and our division of course, of course. So 422 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: I I think you're you're going to see them very 423 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: motivated and it's gonna be kind of a fun and 424 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: I'm hoping JJ can hold serve in this. Uh, JJ 425 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: McCarthy because uh, just look at the skill players that 426 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: are going to be on the field if if, if 427 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: ceedee Lamb's good with his concussion if and and he's 428 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: going to be back Thursday night. Gave him a couple 429 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: extra days. Pickens can absolutely hustle on that field. They 430 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: have this floor Noy, this young cat that's pretty good. 431 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 432 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: And then Cavante Turpin, I mean they got they got 433 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 4: speed all over the field. Ferguson, they figured out how 434 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: to really make use of him at the tight ends. 435 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: He made this last week's game was incredible. 436 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: It was gorgeous. And uh and then we have our 437 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: skill set with a QB trying to figure out how 438 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: to throw his way around the gym. So skill players 439 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: a lore under the bright lights of Jerry World. 440 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's going to be exciting. It will 441 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: be a bigger task for JJ McCarthy. I think it's 442 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: easy to say that the Cowboys defensive line is a 443 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: bit more talented than the Commanders. 444 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: I think the most pass yards in the league though 445 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: they yes, well, I mean the Geberflus's bunch, like they 446 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 4: got Azeraku. 447 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: This rookie. 448 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: That's pretty good. I think Kenny Clark has actually kind 449 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 4: of limited him in snaps in recent weeks. I don't 450 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: know what's up with that. Quinnin Williams can ball out though, 451 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, there are going to be a little bit 452 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: better defensive group. Statistically though that the Commanders were as 453 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 4: gettable as it gets. Yes, in regard to our opponents 454 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: down the stretch here, but the Cowboys not too far 455 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 4: behind him. 456 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: They're number one in total yards. 457 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: On the offensive side of things, they're averaging about twenty 458 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: nine point three points per game. So, I mean, do 459 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: you foresee this to be a barn burner? I mean, 460 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: I hope so, right, I hope so, because that means, well, 461 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: I don't see that happening with our defense necessarily. 462 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: I hope we replicate the shutout, but that seems yeah, 463 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: but that seems unlikely, So we'll settle for the fact that, 464 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: I mean, this is going to be you know, I 465 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 4: don't know if we ever talk about NFL totals, but 466 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: this might be of the overwhelming variety in terms of 467 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: points potentially being scored, and it's going to be the 468 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: biggest challenge. 469 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: We saw Jay. 470 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: Ward playing a lot of corner and kind of and 471 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: they've mixed him up a bunch where they can put 472 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: him on the field from a safety spot and he 473 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: was you know, from a tackling standpoint maybe against the Commanders. 474 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 4: That was a factor that saw him. I mean, this 475 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: is going to be a big day for Isaiah Rodgers. 476 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 4: He's going to keep you, keep up with you with 477 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: the speed, but can he finish those freaking tackles And 478 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: that's going to be a talking point with Byron Murphy too. Yeah, 479 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: the biggest challenge of the year for our secondarya in 480 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: particular with all these skill players. 481 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Awesome. 482 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, nor for your insights, your 483 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: thoughts and your time today. 484 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: Thank you You're the best. 485 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Nah No, not at all. 486 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Well, we do record this a little earlier in the week, 487 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: so if you want to dive more into the matchup, 488 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: make sure you listen to Nordo alongside Pa. 489 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: On nine to noon. Okfan from Guess What nine to 490 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: noon on weekdays. 491 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: A big thank you to Nordo and Kurt Warner for 492 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: joining the show this week. The Vikings are back in 493 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: primetime this Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys at AT 494 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: and T Stadium. Kickoff at seven twenty on NBC. Check 495 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: out Vikings dot com or the Vikings app for the 496 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: latest news on your favorite team. Thanks for listening to 497 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: MVP and School Vikings. Minnesota needed a go to source 498 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: for everything high school sports. That's why the Minnesota Star 499 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Tribune created Strib Varsity. Sign up now at startribune dot 500 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: com slash Strib Varsity