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Speaker 1: right into it. Ojoe Jaggs beat the Saints thirty four
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty four. Trevor Lawrence was twenty or twenty nine,
Speaker 1: two hundred and four yards a touchdown. Derreck Carver thirty
Speaker 1: three or fifty five, three oh one, one touchdown, one pick.
Speaker 1: The Saints had the ball first in goal at the
Speaker 1: six yard line, four straight in completion. We should have
Speaker 1: had a touchdown on third down, but Moreau, his hands
Speaker 1: got stilled.
Speaker 2: He locked your he locked his fingers up. O Josean,
Speaker 2: you know you got in that situation. You gotta relax,
Speaker 2: You gotta relax.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely listen. I'm gonna start from the beginning
Speaker 4: of the game. Obviously, I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 4: a runaway by the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've been playing some
Speaker 4: phenomenal football man ever since Trevor Lawrence got there. That
Speaker 4: team has turned the dynamic and turned everything around and
Speaker 4: being and being a competitor as opposed to what we're
Speaker 4: used to seeing from the Jacksonville Jaguars being being up
Speaker 4: twenty four to nine. Honestly, I thought the game was over.
Speaker 4: I thought the game was over, and I just for
Speaker 4: the for the for the life of me, I can't
Speaker 4: understand why the Saints aren't the same intimidating Saints I'm
Speaker 4: used to seeing, especially offensively. Obviously, Drew Brees is not there,
Speaker 4: Derek Carr fields in, but you have the likes of
Speaker 4: Michael Thomas, olave A, Rashid Taysom Hilla, Alvin Kamara, and
Speaker 4: for what are we doing there? Used to be an
Speaker 4: intimidating factor from the Saints offensively and then just not there.
Speaker 4: Obviously we're able to come back in the game and
Speaker 4: make it a game, make make it a game again,
Speaker 4: and it is. I just don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: The games you shouldn't be have. You shouldn't be having
Speaker 4: to play from behind with a team like that, structured
Speaker 4: in that manner, with that type of talent surround you
Speaker 4: as a quarterback. I don't know what the problem.
Speaker 2: Is, but I think that's the that's the problem is
Speaker 2: the quarterback. They don't believe.
Speaker 1: And I look and I understand they're gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and say.
Speaker 2: Oh, we believe, we believe, we believe.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, your quarterback is
Speaker 1: will give you that belief that you can go out
Speaker 1: there and when you have that guy, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what's on the other side, It doesn't matter what their
Speaker 1: defense is, It doesn't matter who their quarterback is, as
Speaker 1: long as we got a quarterback that we believe in
Speaker 1: and we know what he's more than capable of doing. Look,
Speaker 1: I mean, John, I mean, how many cars, how many
Speaker 1: situations of Derek Carr, how many coaches that Derek Carr
Speaker 1: gotten fired? Dennis sund about to find out he about
Speaker 1: to get another one. Now John Gruden was gonna end
Speaker 1: up getting fired. I mean, I know Mark Davis didn't
Speaker 1: want to find he had a ten year contract for
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. But the coach before that, Derek
Speaker 1: Carr got in fired, Derrick Park. If you just look
Speaker 1: at the stacks, if you just look at the stats,
Speaker 1: thirty three fifty one touchdown and he should have had
Speaker 1: he should have had a second touchdown down, and then
Speaker 1: who knows what, Who knows what would have happened.
Speaker 2: But oh, Jo he plays. You know, you look at
Speaker 2: him and you're like, man, he can make every throw.
Speaker 1: And then he'll go a stretch where he go like
Speaker 1: an entire quarter and you're like, has this dude ever
Speaker 1: thrown a football? Has he ever played the game of football?
Speaker 1: And it just leaves you scratching your head like bron.
Speaker 4: But then what God, also I'm looking at I'm looking
Speaker 4: at it and his totality and really not just putting
Speaker 4: everything on him, because as I'm watching, I'm looking at
Speaker 4: receivers giving up on routes. I'm looking at receivers dropping
Speaker 4: balls and not saving your quarterback. Sometimes you gotta save
Speaker 4: your you gotta you got to hbo your quarterback, help
Speaker 4: a brother out. Sometimes everything is not gonna be perfect.
Speaker 4: Sometimes on certain routes. You know, you have DBS sitting
Speaker 4: on you and he has he has to scramble a
Speaker 4: little bit, come back to the ball, you know, save
Speaker 4: we re re reset everything, reset the lineman to help
Speaker 4: him out sometimes because it doesn't play out all the time,
Speaker 4: just had drawn up. You know, you got to improvise
Speaker 4: some time and help the quarter back out. I saw
Speaker 4: him fussing, you know, with with olive sometimes on some things,
Speaker 4: on some hot rods. I saw him fuss with a
Speaker 4: kamara on some rode ross that he should have should
Speaker 4: have broke broken off based on blitzes that were coming.
Speaker 4: So there was a few, a few mental mistakes, a
Speaker 4: few misassignments. So I wouldn't really put everything on Derek Carr,
Speaker 4: but the oldest, because he is a quarterback, he's gonna
Speaker 4: get most of the goddamn blame. But there's some other
Speaker 4: things from other people that I did see out there today,
Speaker 4: which is which is they have just as much reason
Speaker 4: for the loss as does Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: You know, Joe, I used to do a lot of
Speaker 1: things in the game time and the coach would say, well, well,
Speaker 1: you wh why did you do that. That's not what
Speaker 1: we that's not what we are, that's not the way
Speaker 1: we drew it up. I said, yeah, but when you
Speaker 1: drew it up on the boardroom extitly, those didn't move.
Speaker 1: I got in the game and guess what if I'm
Speaker 1: as I'm moving in the old damn sure moving. So
Speaker 1: I had I had to run my route accordingly, or
Speaker 1: I had to do accordingly. Stood that you say, this
Speaker 1: is what he normally does, but that's not what he
Speaker 1: that's not what he did, right, So I had to
Speaker 1: act a courtly. I can't go out there because you're
Speaker 1: gonna look at me crazy. I come back to the
Speaker 1: sideline seat where I read it like this, You told
Speaker 1: me to go twelve yard and they got said today
Speaker 1: you always told me, never go behind the dB to
Speaker 1: run my rope, break that up right off in front
Speaker 1: of it. So that's what I did. It's just I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, I hate the fact that Moreau dropped
Speaker 1: the ball on third down.
Speaker 2: And I know I've been there, I've done it.
Speaker 1: I dropped the play at nine, I dropped the pants
Speaker 1: in ninety one and the south ends on it. My old,
Speaker 1: my high joke. That would have given us whole field
Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs. We went to Buffalo and lost the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game ten to seven.
Speaker 4: MM listen, I dropped one. I dropped one just like
Speaker 4: Moreau when I was for the Patriots in Buffalo. Hit
Speaker 4: me right in the hands. Lack of focus, yep, two
Speaker 4: ten stuff. I think I was too relaxed on that one.
Speaker 4: It was too relaxed. It just went right to my hands.
Speaker 4: I don't know what was going on. I don't know
Speaker 4: what happened with me, but stuff like that happened. And
Speaker 4: it's crazy how you lose your lack of focus for a.
Speaker 2: Split second, just a second that it.
Speaker 4: Takes and the ball right out your hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, and driving home crying like a baby.
Speaker 1: I called my brother and the phoney, like, bro, what's
Speaker 1: going on? It was coral man, was I because that
Speaker 1: you know, when you trying to like make a name
Speaker 1: for yourself, and I wasn't getting a whole lot of opportunities.
Speaker 1: So my my whole mindset was when I got an
Speaker 1: opportunity to cash it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So it's kind of like the way I
Speaker 2: played in the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I was gonna get a whole lot of opportunities, but
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hit my head on the goal cost
Speaker 1: every opportunity that I got, So I knew I might
Speaker 1: not get one catch, but okay, can you make it
Speaker 1: something special? And so that was my that was my
Speaker 1: one chance. I'm like, man, coach, like, hey, this was
Speaker 1: gonna it had happened. Just like he said, We're gonna
Speaker 1: line you up here, we're gonna motion you out, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna motion Jerry Robinson with you.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a linebacker that's cut to be you. Man.
Speaker 2: I showed him so bad. Yeah, Oh, I just knew it.
Speaker 1: And what I mean I short. I short on the ojoe.
Speaker 1: I like instead of just all I had to do
Speaker 1: is do this, and I did it like this track.
Speaker 4: It went right off your fingertips, hunh.
Speaker 2: Right off my fingertips, man right on my fingertails. Broke
Speaker 2: my heart and I just I just remember it, like God,
Speaker 2: if you ever put me back in that situation.
Speaker 4: Again, never happened again.
Speaker 1: That's never gonna happen. So what so So, I mean,
Speaker 1: what about the Jags? If you look at the plane
Speaker 1: that the Jags got to get the lead, that's a
Speaker 1: simple Zorrow route. Ladies and gentlemen home, you run that
Speaker 1: route on third or fourth down trying to pick up
Speaker 1: a couple of yards because they're mad coverage. That's not
Speaker 1: a route that you hit your head on the gold
Speaker 1: posts on. You're not doing forty four yards on a
Speaker 1: sorrow Joe app scored several times.
Speaker 2: That's a while.
Speaker 1: They put it in the West Coast Peterson with the
Speaker 1: quarterback in the West Coast under with Andy right.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, bro, how how do you score forty
Speaker 2: four yards on a Zorrow route?
Speaker 4: Where I think they scored? Obviously they was a man
Speaker 4: and then not only there man, there was a mismatch.
Speaker 4: There's a mismatch. Why is not a nickel match?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Why is a nickel not on Christian Kirk. Why
Speaker 4: is the honey badger who normally your safety always coming
Speaker 4: down in the box if you want to play rob
Speaker 4: or something. Why is he on Christian Kirk in that
Speaker 4: situation on third down? Anyway? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: He's not to be able to cover him. I don't
Speaker 1: care if they got Cam. I don't care if they
Speaker 1: got Cam Jordan. What about the angles that they took
Speaker 1: to get him down? He still went forty four yards?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but you got to think about it. Listen,
Speaker 4: it's man the man. Where's all the DB's backs facing,
Speaker 4: where's everybody? They looking that way? So by the time
Speaker 4: they turn around, Christian Kirk is in full speed already
Speaker 4: passing by. You notice once he once he caught the
Speaker 4: ball and got going up field, everybody looked around. It
Speaker 4: was too late, he was he was full till he
Speaker 4: was already full till it was it was a house
Speaker 4: called from that point.
Speaker 1: They took some horrible angle honey back, because once he
Speaker 1: makes that play, a honey badger knows he's got to
Speaker 1: get up the field. So I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: intercept him at a point I ain't going down the
Speaker 1: line right for Get me first, stopped him for Yeah,
Speaker 1: forget trying to stop him for the first down. That's
Speaker 1: the least your concerns night. Now I'm not I'm trying
Speaker 1: not to let him get six months.
Speaker 4: Out of dight, right right, right right? Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: too late. And then Christian Kirk is already fast. He's
Speaker 4: already fast, it is. He doesn't need to be Tyreek
Speaker 4: Hill fast. But you got to think in the NFL,
Speaker 4: it's all about angles. It's all about angles. And once
Speaker 4: you get somebody that's already ahead of you, man ain't
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams is very frustrated with his role in the offense.
Speaker 1: I would be because I'm not just I'm just not
Speaker 1: here to hang out. What what are your thoughts on seventeen?
Speaker 4: My thoughts are on seventeen? Is that's right?
Speaker 2: That's right?
Speaker 4: Why does he have to settle for mediocrity because they have?
Speaker 4: Why does he have to? Why does he have to?
Speaker 4: You have a top tier receiver on your team that
Speaker 4: gives you a chance to win week in and week out.
Speaker 4: He is a difference maker. He is someone that can
Speaker 4: hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field.
Speaker 4: He is someone that makes everyone else around him job easier,
Speaker 4: including the office of the coordinator and including the quarterback.
Speaker 4: They played the goddamn New England Patriots last weekend he
Speaker 4: had two catches. Mind you, you might have won the game,
Speaker 4: but let's say you weren't playing the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4: Don't allow team to dictate what you want to do
Speaker 4: with your best players, especially someone of that magnitude. If
Speaker 4: you want to have a winning attitude and have a
Speaker 4: winning mentality, dictate what you want to do. Don't allow
Speaker 4: them to dictate to you. I can keep going to
Speaker 4: talk to him about Oh Joe, yes, hir IoT.
Speaker 1: Patriots are not dictating where the ball's going the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: Look at the quarterback that you got. What did you
Speaker 1: think when you got Jimmy garoo whoa what did you go?
Speaker 2: Ahead?
Speaker 4: You got Jimmy Garoppolo, right, Yeah, you could have the
Speaker 4: pope on the center. You could have the pope on
Speaker 4: the center who don't know don't know nothing about football.
Speaker 4: And you look at Davonte Adams resume and understanding what
Speaker 4: he can do, regardless of coverage, regardless of needing the
Speaker 4: help of officer coordinator to scheme him open understanding he
Speaker 4: has the DNA to get it off the muscle from anywhere,
Speaker 4: from the outside, from the inside, coming at the backfield,
Speaker 4: condense split, tight split, wide split. He doesn't even need help.
Speaker 4: He's what I like to call it. Remember Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 4: Remember Marvin Harrison. You used to line up on the
Speaker 4: right side of the field and all Peyton had to
Speaker 4: say was GA, get open. I don't need to scheme nothing.
Speaker 4: Davante is that type of player. So it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: who's playing quarterback. You know you have someone that is
Speaker 4: going to be open for you every single time. It's easy,
Speaker 4: it's not hard. Why you don't have to complicate it?
Speaker 4: Why make it difficult?
Speaker 1: Think about this, O Joe, go back and look at
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo when he played his best football. Yes it
Speaker 1: was in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan. Look at Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan's system. Now what did Jimmy do? Quick bass, jail, brick, screen, handoff,
Speaker 1: swing passes? Okay, So are you going to change?
Speaker 2: Are you? That's not you?
Speaker 1: I mean, so are you going to revamp your offense
Speaker 1: to get the maximized? Because you got to understand, and
Speaker 1: that is what I always tell people. When you sign
Speaker 1: a guy in free agency, you better use him like
Speaker 1: they used him where he came from and why you
Speaker 1: fell in love with him because you don't. You see,
Speaker 1: if I get a tower, if I buy a tower
Speaker 1: to drive with it, it shouldn't be a shower curtain.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be curtains that I hang up in my
Speaker 1: living room because that's not what I bought it for.
Speaker 1: You got Jimmy G and you know what his skill
Speaker 1: set was. So while we upset that he can't maximize
Speaker 1: what DeVante does when he never did that for anybody else,
Speaker 1: this is a thing.
Speaker 4: This is a thing. He's never done it with anybody else.
Speaker 4: But he's also never had a Davante Adams. He's also
Speaker 4: never had a Davanta Adams. Come hell of hot water,
Speaker 4: Jimmy T. Being a quarterback, you have someone that makes
Speaker 4: your job easy. You know what, I know, whatever play
Speaker 4: I call right now, regardless of coverage, I know who
Speaker 4: I can count on. I know who I can count
Speaker 4: on the win every single time, every single time. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you can improvise. Sometimes as a quarterback, you can go
Speaker 4: off script based on the personal the personnel that's surrounding you.
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams is one of those people. Can you imagine
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking hypothetic speaking. I never played quarterback a
Speaker 4: day in my life, never played a quarterback a day
Speaker 4: of my life at the highest level.
Speaker 2: I'm too bad for you.
Speaker 4: But if I was with the Raiders, listen, I'm feeding that.
Speaker 4: I'm feeding that because I know I can move up
Speaker 4: and down the field by feeding the individual that cannot
Speaker 4: be stopped regardless of what they do defensively. We have
Speaker 4: to do is put him in positions to win. It's
Speaker 4: really simple. I'm not sure whose ego is so complicated
Speaker 4: or whose ego is so inflamed over there offensively wherever
Speaker 4: the coordinator may be, It's easy, no, no, no disrespect.
Speaker 1: He's a better coordinator than the other head coach.
Speaker 2: He was a as a head coach. He was an
Speaker 2: effic failure in Denver.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's only he's only been Yes, he's
Speaker 1: only he's only been good in New England. Remember when
Speaker 1: he was the O C at the Rams, he was terrible.
Speaker 1: Remember when he hit the head coach at the Broncos.
Speaker 2: He was terrible.
Speaker 1: Right, he backed out of a job. He had a job,
Speaker 1: and and and and and back out of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: indeed ended up getting another job.
Speaker 4: Oh t let me ask you a question, Yes, sir, can.
Speaker 2: You get can you get butter from a duck?
Speaker 4: Now, I don't think so you can't get no butter
Speaker 4: from no duck.
Speaker 2: Now can you get can you get? Can you get
Speaker 2: backing from a chicken?
Speaker 1: So, in other words, you're asking Jimmy G to give
Speaker 1: you something that he can't watch you understand that, damn
Speaker 1: what he is?
Speaker 4: This the NFL Jimmy G. Jimmy g job is to
Speaker 4: throw the ball. Jimmy G's job is to throw the ball.
Speaker 4: There are people in the game called the NFL. You
Speaker 4: have quarterbacks, you have receivers. You have tiers of receivers, right,
Speaker 4: you have tiers and tears of quarterbacks. Right, so you
Speaker 4: have a tier one receiver that can make a good
Speaker 4: quarterback look brilliant. It's amazing. It's not hard, it's not complicated.
Speaker 4: It's really simple. If Jimmy G is one that you
Speaker 4: think you feel you can't win with or you can't
Speaker 4: he can't really get the job done. He doesn't need
Speaker 4: to be in a Kyle Shanahan's offense. You know why,
Speaker 4: because you have someone like the likes of the Vonte Adams.
Speaker 4: That makes it job fucking easy. It makes a job easy.
Speaker 1: But what Kyle did is that he masked. Kyle was makeup.
Speaker 1: He didn't let you see those improfecsions that Jimmy g had.
Speaker 1: You see, you've been in a situation. You see the
Speaker 1: nice lady at the club, and there's something about them lights.
Speaker 2: At the club.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they know they do. I didn't
Speaker 1: get someone in my house, but they make everybody look good.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, she get home and
Speaker 1: she ain't under those lights, and she start taking off
Speaker 1: a makeup.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm talking about, and she come.
Speaker 1: About them skills or them schemes of kill or whatever
Speaker 1: they call them, and everything in the flooring like what
Speaker 1: the hell drop marbles out of their pocket and everything
Speaker 1: rolling the round, and then all of.
Speaker 2: A sudden, she took off lashes.
Speaker 4: She wrapped her head up in the bonnet, right right,
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 1: See what Kyle Shanahan did. He didn't let you see
Speaker 1: those imperfections. Now you got him in a different light
Speaker 1: and you see him for what he actually is.
Speaker 4: And this is the funny thing. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 4: So in the in the in the NFL, you have
Speaker 4: players that get coaches fired, and you have players that
Speaker 4: can prolong a coach's career. Absolutely, you have Jimmy g
Speaker 4: Right and those imperfections that you speak, there's an individual
Speaker 4: that can mask those anywhere is number seventeen. He can
Speaker 4: mask all those imperfections by moving around and put him
Speaker 4: in situations, see to get the ball out of Jimmy's
Speaker 4: hands fast, or if you want to do play actions,
Speaker 4: if you want to use Josh Jacob established the run.
Speaker 4: But you have someone that can wiel you down the
Speaker 4: field at will at any given moment, and you're not
Speaker 4: using it, so you're complicating it. At this point, I
Speaker 4: think they're doing it on purpose. At this point, I
Speaker 4: think they're doing it on purpose, honestly, But I think
Speaker 4: they sabotage it on purpose. I don't know, because they
Speaker 4: have a different mindset, they thinking differently upstairs. We don't
Speaker 4: know what they're thinking. But when you understand what they
Speaker 4: have in that building, when you understand what they have
Speaker 4: in that room, when you understand the resume in the DNA,
Speaker 4: and who devote Adams is and what he can do
Speaker 4: on the field regards to who's in front of him
Speaker 4: against any coverage, two catches is fucking nonsense. That's nonsense,
Speaker 4: And I mean that with all due respect to all
Speaker 4: parties involved.
Speaker 1: You said you wanted to see Chad, you wanted to
Speaker 1: see Davante in Dallas.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, talk to me now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So so I hold on, is c D gonna
Speaker 1: give up that eighty eight because the supposed to be
Speaker 1: special if he walked to the door, who's number? Now
Speaker 1: you do remember this, O Joe. They got rid of
Speaker 1: Mari Cooper, so CD could be number one without without
Speaker 1: without anybody challenging him.
Speaker 4: Don't do that, don't do that. That's not why. That's
Speaker 4: not why. That was a business That was a business
Speaker 4: decision because working up for Erry Jerry Jones didn't want
Speaker 4: to pay that twenty million dollars. That's where it came from.
Speaker 1: He already paid it. Look at Gallup. So so tell me.
Speaker 1: So now everybody saying they need a number two receiver.
Speaker 1: Now you see Marik Cooper ball Yeah, yeah, it was nothing.
Speaker 1: It was nothing wrong with him in the first place.
Speaker 1: There was no need to There was no need to
Speaker 1: get rid of him. You got rid of him because
Speaker 1: you didn't want to pay the money. You didn't want
Speaker 1: to pay the money, and you fail.
Speaker 4: You're going to get the production from elsewhere or something
Speaker 4: close to it. That's not the case. For somewhere that good,
Speaker 4: that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you have to remove because, in my estimation,
Speaker 1: because he's so technically and fundamentally sound, Amar's not gonna conceive.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna say, oh okay. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: with Jerry and Toyo. Jerry wasn't gonna see that number
Speaker 1: one spot to Tyo. They had to get Jerry out
Speaker 1: of there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Two, they had to get Tea out of there. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's what you mean.
Speaker 1: Listen, remember on Jerry Rice's day, t O called twenty
Speaker 1: pantss Jered day.
Speaker 4: They had to move on.
Speaker 1: For Jerry because Jerry mind, Jerry wasn't going to concede.
Speaker 1: He's not the number one's receiver. Amari Cooper, you know
Speaker 1: how number you were?
Speaker 2: Number one? You ain't conceived.
Speaker 4: Ish whoao I did?
Speaker 2: Though? I did?
Speaker 4: Why did I do it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Till no, no no no no no. I'm the better
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes sometimes number number numbers don't tell the whole
Speaker 4: story anyway. That that's that's my dog. We'll get away
Speaker 4: get on that later.
Speaker 2: That the story.
Speaker 1: If I died that number, if I died your number,
Speaker 1: to see my phone.
Speaker 2: Will pick up theory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they did listen, and I was happy.
Speaker 4: I stood on the table. I think it would before Buffalo.
Speaker 4: I think that's what man. When I went, I went
Speaker 4: up to mister Brown, I went to I went to
Speaker 4: Martin Lewis. I say, man, listen, man, we got to
Speaker 4: get a t in here. You know, me, me and
Speaker 4: TV we twenty years strong in the game friends, outside
Speaker 4: of the game. On the field, I was happy and
Speaker 4: had no problem taking a backseat to one of the
Speaker 4: greatest they ever played the game. I was so listen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but we talked. We talked about winning. I was looking
Speaker 4: at the bigger picture.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: It didn't work out the way I thought it would.
Speaker 4: But I think, why can't see d see the same thing.
Speaker 4: Why can't he see the division? Jerry Jones, Jerry Way,
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones always want to be front center. He wanted
Speaker 4: to be the GM. You want to be the president.
Speaker 4: He wanted to be Thestodian. You want to be the janitor.
Speaker 4: He wanted to run the show and the brand, the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: You haven't won the super Bowl and how long? So
Speaker 4: why not make a splash? And why not bringing that
Speaker 4: splash and having DeVonta Adams and improving your offense drastically
Speaker 4: just like that, and becoming a goddamn Super Bowl favorite.
Speaker 1: I ask you a question right now, okay, at what
Speaker 1: year were you in your career when that happened? You
Speaker 1: do realize you had already gone to six Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: You had already been you had already led the league
Speaker 1: and receive it. You had already been an All Pro.
Speaker 1: CD left them hasn't been to as many Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: He hadn't accomplished the things, So he's not going to
Speaker 1: be as willing a participant as you to concede it.
Speaker 4: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa wha. I thought the common
Speaker 4: goal was to get the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what started?
Speaker 4: Listen to me, Listen to me. Is that not what
Speaker 4: we preach about all the time? There is there is
Speaker 4: one team. Listen to me. Now, there's one team that
Speaker 4: moves the needle in all media, one team that moves
Speaker 4: the needle, and every year is the same. It's the
Speaker 4: same conversation. We had the talent, we had the players,
Speaker 4: we had the personnel to go to sou Bowl, and
Speaker 4: they continue to fall short. Every year. Why not add
Speaker 4: that one special dynamic that can put you over the
Speaker 4: hump offensively? Why not? O Cho, I'm just saying speaking hypothetically.
Speaker 2: OKAYO, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1: But you know, people say I want to win, but
Speaker 1: ninety five for people want to win, but they want to.
Speaker 2: Win their way. You know that.
Speaker 4: Wait, so are you talking about Derry Jones? Is that
Speaker 4: his way about him?
Speaker 1: From city standpoint, I'm saying people, Coachchick, coach Belichick would
Speaker 1: rather lose his way bean win somebody else's way.
Speaker 4: See, and that you know what, that's the problem. That's
Speaker 4: another problem. That's probably what's going on over and got
Speaker 4: damn Vegas. Get the man the goddamn ball, because what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen is're gonna endup getting fired and you gonna
Speaker 4: be at home wondering why you got fired because you're
Speaker 4: not using the players you have to the best of
Speaker 4: the ability. It makes because because of ego, because I'm
Speaker 4: gonna try to win my way. Just what you just said,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna win my way, and if my way involves
Speaker 4: not getting Devonte Adams the goddamn ball, so be it not.
Speaker 4: Look at you.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about this?
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Cowboys, Michael Parkson was worth the same
Speaker 1: energy for the Eagles. Michael on his podcast say, I
Speaker 1: see my quarterback maybe not have the red zone success,
Speaker 1: but move the ball way better than the Eagles did
Speaker 1: on Sunday. We want the same energy for everybody because
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of bashing when it's that, but not
Speaker 1: the same when it's the Eagles.
Speaker 2: What's your take on that.
Speaker 4: Michael, Michael has to understand who he plays for. Thank
Speaker 4: pay for that star in that helmet, broy It comes
Speaker 4: with the territory. It comes with the territory America's team.
Speaker 4: That's what you own. That's just that's the nature of
Speaker 4: the business. And that's the way it will always be.
Speaker 4: Your team moves the needle, win, lost, draw by week,
Speaker 4: it don't even matter. It's gonna always be like that. Respectfully,
Speaker 4: you got to take it, take it what it is.
Speaker 2: There's certain there are certain and certain sports.
Speaker 1: The Yankees in baseball, the Lakers in basketball, the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Does he understand that Jerry Jones was not a billionaire
Speaker 1: when he purchased the Cowboy. Now he's ten, fifteen, eighteen,
Speaker 1: maybe even twenty billion.
Speaker 2: Why that comes from Michael. That comes along with it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys, I know, guys that played
Speaker 1: on bad teams that were getting seventeen eighteen sacks that
Speaker 1: didn't even really get them getting mentioned. And there are
Speaker 1: guys that's getting eight, nine, ten sacks because they've played
Speaker 1: on a more prominent.
Speaker 2: Team, they get all the love.
Speaker 1: That's how it works, Michael, Michael will I never heard
Speaker 1: Michael say one thing when it's a lot of those
Speaker 1: same media said the Dallas Cowboys and Michael Parsons have
Speaker 1: a historic deepest. Not one time did you say, why
Speaker 1: don'dt y'all get that energy to the Eagles? The league
Speaker 1: tied the NFL record with seventy two sacks last year,
Speaker 1: Michael Parker, Not one time, So they should give the
Speaker 1: Eagles love for that historic defense that they got.
Speaker 2: Now one time that I hear him say that.
Speaker 4: I mean it happens. I think you have a better
Speaker 4: understanding standing of it now after hearing everyone want to
Speaker 4: talk about it and having a better understanding on who
Speaker 4: you play for, understand where you are about christem It
Speaker 4: just comes with the nature of the business. I think
Speaker 4: I think I think he gets it. I think he
Speaker 4: gets it. But the media will never ever a bow
Speaker 4: down to the players based on what they have to say,
Speaker 4: because they understand what and who moves the needle, what
Speaker 4: and who moves it, and that that's just what it
Speaker 4: comes down to, saying, like when they come to basketball,
Speaker 4: it's the Lakers, when it comes to baseball, it's the
Speaker 4: guy damn Yankees. And it's been like that for years.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like that because I think the thing
Speaker 1: is is that the expectations that comes along with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the expectations that there are owner and the
Speaker 1: son Stephen, co owner, says that this team or this
Speaker 1: roster reminds me of the nineties Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows what the nineties Cowboys did.
Speaker 1: So when they when you keep saying that, you raise
Speaker 1: the level of expectations and when you don't meet that
Speaker 1: level of expectations.
Speaker 2: But I tell you another thing that will.
Speaker 1: Get people off you when you're on national and you're
Speaker 1: on primetime television. Don't get beat by thirty two. Don't
Speaker 1: get the breaks beat off you. Right, if you don't
Speaker 1: get the doors blowed off you. Let's just say, for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, o Jo, you used to like
Speaker 1: to do hypothetical. Let's just say that game with a
Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty seven ball game. Nobody when you get
Speaker 1: beat forty two ten and they call the dogs off right, say.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, But see me, I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it everything. You know.
Speaker 1: If I criticize, if I don't. If I criticize the blacks,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the black guy down. If I criticized the
Speaker 1: white guy, I'm criticizing them because they're not black. I
Speaker 1: just decided I will call it like I see it,
Speaker 1: And damn what you say whether they're black, dad, what
Speaker 1: you say, whether they white.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call it like I see it.
Speaker 4: Play better, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: If you play better, play better.
Speaker 4: For him, individually, he played well, which is why he
Speaker 4: can come out and say some of the things he's saying,
Speaker 4: but that he needs to have a better understanding and
Speaker 4: understand the history that comes with the team that he
Speaker 4: is playing for, and then you'll get it. Then you'll
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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, did you see this?
Speaker 1: The female European common frau yeah, was observed engaging in
Speaker 1: toxic and mobility. In other words, they were pretending to
Speaker 1: be dead. So the mail frag didn't want to make
Speaker 1: with them, wouldn't want to mate with them because they
Speaker 1: don't the mail fraust So I don't do that, Necker feeling.
Speaker 4: I ain't buy it right right right, And.
Speaker 1: They say as soon as the mail frog get up,
Speaker 1: they get up and like, okay parking and hop on
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 4: Well, that that goes on in today's era too, And
Speaker 4: I get that not only the sleep come right, what
Speaker 4: about the frogs play like they dead right? How about
Speaker 4: women that give you a number. I'm I'm speaking hypothetically
Speaker 4: because it doesn't happen to me. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: I heard somebody send you a d M and you
Speaker 4: know you saw it and you don't read it. Somebody
Speaker 4: send your text and she knows she saw it and
Speaker 4: she don't read it, and she continuously continuously sees those
Speaker 4: messages from whoever it is, knowing you have no intent
Speaker 4: on dealing with that individual, but just continuing to stare
Speaker 4: at it. And I say they do it for egotistical reasons,
Speaker 4: ostical reasons. You know, hey, it's just the same concept,
Speaker 4: same concept, listen, frogs. I'm not I'm not going to
Speaker 4: compare them to our our our female species, but I'm
Speaker 4: just saying it's it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: But it just goes to show you even something that's
Speaker 1: not as highly developed intellectually or have the brain capacity
Speaker 1: as a human like they know what they want when
Speaker 1: they don't. Oh yeah, because for the for the most
Speaker 1: part animals in the wild, what do the males do.
Speaker 1: They fight because the biggest, baddest. The females want to
Speaker 1: make to the biggest and baddest because they want that protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Humans are human probably the only species of mammals that
Speaker 1: don't don't worry about size because.
Speaker 2: They're not worried about the level of protection.
Speaker 1: Now, some women says, okay, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to geel secure, comfortable.
Speaker 4: They worried about zero zeros.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the protection they want. That's the protection.
Speaker 1: They want to stay with me. Now, let's stay with me.
Speaker 1: They but you look at all the other manimals. You
Speaker 1: look at elephants and lions, and hey, they're like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want I want the big one. I want the
Speaker 1: big with the dark male that's about two years old.
Speaker 1: I want him that that got a five hundred my territory.
Speaker 1: Those are the brothers that need to come up in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I couldn't believe the frogs did that.
Speaker 1: And I got to think, I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: women be doing that too, till like they sleep thanking
Speaker 1: to keep up from keeping from doing your true story.
Speaker 1: I broke up with I broke up with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And my sister told.
Speaker 4: Me, you broke up with her. She broke up with you.
Speaker 1: I broke I broke up my girlfriend. This was this
Speaker 1: one years ago. This is probably twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 4: Any time you tell a story, it's years ago.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking this might be this.
Speaker 1: And my sister, My sister told my grandma said, granted,
Speaker 1: you know, yelling such and such not going together. They're
Speaker 1: not together no more. My grandma. I ain't tell you
Speaker 1: her name, but you know what it is. You know
Speaker 1: what my grandma said. What she said she wasn't doing
Speaker 1: the nightly duties.
Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute, my grandy say, No, what my
Speaker 4: grandd is say? Wait, let me sit up because I
Speaker 4: want wait, let me let me get me No, let
Speaker 4: me get my note pad out with a nightly duty
Speaker 4: so I can make sure.
Speaker 1: You you know what nightly duty out?
Speaker 2: Watching this what nightly dude is on?
Speaker 4: I need you listen. I'm trying to get where you are.
Speaker 4: You have a little bit more life experience in me,
Speaker 4: so give me.
Speaker 1: Let me jot down nightly She was doing like the
Speaker 1: female European common fraud.
Speaker 2: She was fake oh oh with the time, pretending like
Speaker 2: she will sleep.
Speaker 4: Oh but y'all live. Wait, wait a minute, let's dive
Speaker 4: a little deeper. This is a lot to unpack now
Speaker 4: y'all live together. And she wasn't doing her night. Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't never check, no look, and so I don't
Speaker 4: know what you want that back. Wait, understand that the
Speaker 4: last time I checked, I saw it. I saw it
Speaker 4: on on.
Speaker 2: Murder.
Speaker 4: She wrote a woman that was playing sleep every time
Speaker 4: he came home, and just to come to find out
Speaker 4: towards the end of the story that happened to be
Speaker 4: another man. M yeah, and that happened. That happens a
Speaker 4: lot in life in general. The person you wit start
Speaker 4: acting funny, and when you dive a little bit deeper,
Speaker 4: you're always tend to find now the routine changes from
Speaker 4: who they used to be when you first met, and
Speaker 4: you start listen that because it happened to me, That's
Speaker 4: how I know it happened to me. And you started
Speaker 4: acting funny. And what did I do? I put on
Speaker 4: my black dickies, I put on a black scull cap
Speaker 4: or you sleep? So what I did? I jumped in
Speaker 4: the car. Oh you sleep? Okay, bet Wait a minute,
Speaker 4: how you sleep? It is eight thirty okay, Bet, Well
Speaker 4: you go ahead and get you a nice lice. So
Speaker 4: I get in the car. You know, I got a little.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to because listen, listen, I could be
Speaker 4: honest with you, because we're family, I could be honest
Speaker 4: with you, like I listen. I get in the car.
Speaker 4: I go to the house. You know she's staying on
Speaker 4: she's staying over there all at the time. She in
Speaker 4: Carroll City. You know that won nhing by the thirty
Speaker 4: minute drive real quickly, I jumped on the highway. I
Speaker 4: jumped on yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I pull up
Speaker 4: to the house, the car in the driveway. Wait a
Speaker 4: minut minute, Wait a minute, how the cant in the driveway?
Speaker 4: But you just told me you sleep, That's what I'm
Speaker 4: saying in my head, I'm saying, Oh no, oh, she
Speaker 4: want to play back. I waited. I waited about five minutes.
Speaker 4: I called the phone back. Oh, the phone ring. I
Speaker 4: kept called her over and over mine it ain't been
Speaker 4: number thirty minutes. So how you sleep already? I ain't chilling.
Speaker 4: So I sat on the front porch. I took a picture, right,
Speaker 4: I took a picture at the front door like this, snop, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
Speaker 4: I took a picture at the front right, did you
Speaker 4: where you live? I sent it to her? Oh but
Speaker 4: you sleep? Huh okay, back, hey, ain't listen and blocked
Speaker 4: the number and went on about and went on about
Speaker 4: my business in my life now asking guess who were
Speaker 4: trying to spin the block? You know, she started, she
Speaker 4: started seeing you know, I start. I had a little motion.
Speaker 4: My little motion was back in effect. You know, my
Speaker 4: visibility started being back popping. It was too late then,
Speaker 4: because real had done came and snatched me up real quick.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes happens. Listen. Sometimes in a relationship, Yes, sir, one.
Speaker 1: Party wants to move on, but they don't know how
Speaker 1: to tell the other they want to move on.
Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's that's because a lot of
Speaker 4: people watching right now, A lot of people watching right now.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you no lie, because a lot of
Speaker 4: people are watching right now with someone and they don't
Speaker 4: know how to break it off. Not only do they
Speaker 4: not not only do they not want to break it off.
Speaker 4: In this economy, you have someone that's helping you and
Speaker 4: taking care of you. You really don't want to lose
Speaker 4: that sense of security and help. Some men as well,
Speaker 4: they with women, they gotta stay. They gotta stay with
Speaker 4: the women because you need a roof over your head.
Speaker 2: But I ain't why like that. I could never.
Speaker 1: I could never let I can't never. I could never
Speaker 1: let a woman take care of me. I can never
Speaker 1: let a woman.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying take care of it are men. Some
Speaker 4: men aren't fortunate, and they're in situations where they need
Speaker 4: that roof over their head and they're dealing with someone
Speaker 4: that's able to provide that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's that's tough.
Speaker 1: That's tough when you're somewhere you don't want to be,
Speaker 1: because I told you the lowland. My grand used to say, boy,
Speaker 1: the lowest place in the world is to be somewhere
Speaker 1: you're not.
Speaker 2: Wanting right right right.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know you're not wanted, it's another
Speaker 1: thing to know you're not wanted.
Speaker 2: In college. I remember in college, I broke over my girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I was moping. I used to work.
Speaker 1: We used to have work study, and I worked for
Speaker 1: Coach Davis rested soul. Coach David and I used to
Speaker 1: go to his office every day, and when I wasn't
Speaker 1: in class, I would do my homework. If we didn't
Speaker 1: look the professor would cancel class or something happened. I
Speaker 1: would go to Coach Davis's office get my hours in,
Speaker 1: but I would do my homework. A couple of days
Speaker 1: go by, he see me moping. He's like so, He's like, uh,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Right, Coach, I broke over with my girlfriend. I said,
Speaker 1: my said, my girlfriend and.
Speaker 2: I broke up.
Speaker 1: He said, well, damn, Sonny says everything okay, I said, Coach,
Speaker 1: we were both sick, and he looked at me. He said,
Speaker 1: y'all were both I said yeah, Coach, I was sick
Speaker 1: of her and she was sick of me.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's a good one. Let me let me let
Speaker 4: me tell you something. Let me let me tell you
Speaker 4: something I always think about. Obviously, it's it's okay to hurt,
Speaker 4: it's okay to morn, it's good, it's ok it's okay
Speaker 4: to be sad when when things don't work out. But
Speaker 4: I tell men this all the time, when when you're
Speaker 4: opening you and you're chasing your fighting back to get
Speaker 4: a woman back that that you might have been with
Speaker 4: for a long time the last time. Think about this,
Speaker 4: when someone leaves you, a woman doesn't want to be
Speaker 4: with you anymore. I always see it as one less expense,
Speaker 4: and I mean that in the most respectful way possible.
Speaker 4: I just see it as one less expense that I
Speaker 4: have to worry about that becomes someone else's responsibility. So
Speaker 4: I've never seen who want to chase and added an
Speaker 4: extra bill? Why why do you want to do that?
Speaker 4: I see it in that way, and trying to put
Speaker 4: things in a perspective in hindsight. If you if you
Speaker 4: have one hundred dollars as a dude, right, if you
Speaker 4: have one hundred dollars as a dude and you lose
Speaker 4: that hundred dollars trying to chase someone because you have
Speaker 4: to pay, in which I call transition transition transactional axactional,
Speaker 4: it doesn't it doesn't bring any value to you because
Speaker 4: it's taking what you have bring and adding nothing to it.
Speaker 4: So why did that you? Why are you hurting?
Speaker 2: Why are you sad?
Speaker 4: And that's just a small analogy, and I mean that
Speaker 4: in the most respectful way possible, And it happens on
Speaker 4: a small scale, and it happens on the grander scale.
Speaker 4: Depends on how you look at it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, don't show what it is. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like from me and I don't want and
Speaker 1: I don't want people to take this the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Says I'm trying to compare a woman to sport. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is is that when you invest something,
Speaker 1: when you invest, for damned, when I invest my time,
Speaker 1: my energy, my heart and soul like I did the sport,
Speaker 1: it hurt when you lose.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at it. When I lose hurt. I'm hurt.
Speaker 2: You damn right, I'm hurt. Yes, I try, and.
Speaker 1: Even though I might not short awkwardly, internally, I'm in
Speaker 1: a knot. I had a young lady telling me one time,
Speaker 1: She's like, you're not hurting. I said, what do you
Speaker 1: mean I'm not hurting? She said, because when I see you,
Speaker 1: you're not You're not in a ball. I said, is
Speaker 1: that what you want?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: I said, And you want me to hurt that bad?
Speaker 1: I said, you want me to not be able to function.
Speaker 1: You don't want me to be able to go to work.
Speaker 1: I was like, I get it. I get it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've hurt you. But just because I'm not
Speaker 1: curled up in a ball because I'm not in a
Speaker 1: psych ward, trust me when i say this, and I
Speaker 1: say this in all sincerity.
Speaker 2: I'm hurting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've been able to compartmentalize because when you
Speaker 1: become a part, when you become a professional athlete, the
Speaker 1: one thing you must be able to do above all
Speaker 1: forget because you don't make it to the level that
Speaker 1: you make it as a professional athlete.
Speaker 2: If you can't play, you've got to be able to compartmentalize.
Speaker 1: If you cannot come apartmentalized, you can't play it the
Speaker 1: level of a professional spot. You've got to be able
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I've got this is going on bit
Speaker 1: at home. My wife is getting go my nerves or
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, my kids are sick, my mom is not
Speaker 1: my mom or my daddy, there's something going on. I've
Speaker 1: got to be able to say that aside for them
Speaker 1: two and a half hours and be able to get
Speaker 1: done when I need to get done, because you know what,
Speaker 1: them eighty five thousand fans and my forty five teammates.
Speaker 2: Hey, they depending on me. They don't want to hear nothing.
Speaker 1: All they see is eighty four in the front and
Speaker 1: sharp on the back, and I need to get it done.
Speaker 4: And so that's grea bad, my bad.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying. So that's where I mean.
Speaker 1: Please make sure you hit that subscribe. But I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that, Uncle Ojo. We appreciate that so much. You
Speaker 1: needse kill all your friends. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Before we get off that topic, I think one of
Speaker 4: the small issues that we have in today's today's society
Speaker 4: and today's world in general, is our sole focus is
Speaker 4: on finding a partner and the fact that we have
Speaker 4: nothing else going on outside of that partner. I think
Speaker 4: that's why we hurt so goddamn much, because you got
Speaker 4: nothing else going on in life. Everything is about my man,
Speaker 4: my man, my man, or this dude, this dude, this dude,
Speaker 4: or what he can do for me and what she
Speaker 4: could do. Like if you have something else going on
Speaker 4: in life, and whatever supposed to happen is gonna happen,
Speaker 4: it's gonna find you allowed to happen organically, allowed to happen, naturally.
Speaker 4: And it took it took me forever to get to
Speaker 4: that mouffuling point. It took me forever. Now I'm just
Speaker 4: saying it took me. Hey, we could be here for
Speaker 4: hours talking about that. You know, the ups and downs
Speaker 4: when it comes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, because because now as a as a
Speaker 1: as a business, as a business owner myself and trying
Speaker 1: to grow and what it takes, and the amount of
Speaker 1: time that I got to spend with my team, and
Speaker 1: the amount of time that I got to spend with
Speaker 1: responsors and advertisers, and you're trying to make sure this.
Speaker 2: Thing is right.
Speaker 1: It's hard because I can't serve two masters because she's like, well,
Speaker 1: let help me. What because you said, well, let's go this.
Speaker 2: No, I got to watch the games, right right?
Speaker 1: You do realize that the reason why I'm playing to
Speaker 1: talk about and to say what I say is because
Speaker 1: I watch the games. I don't do the clips. I
Speaker 1: don't do Okay, watch the game for me, ash or watch.
Speaker 2: The game for me or no, that's not how I function.
Speaker 1: I've got to see it and then I can talk
Speaker 1: about it with the passion in which I get up
Speaker 1: there and talk about it. I say, you don't understand
Speaker 1: this is not about sure. You have to understand what
Speaker 1: comes along when you with me and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of sacrifices not only do I make, but in order
Speaker 1: for my partner, they're gonna have to make those sacrifices also.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of times that when your girls
Speaker 1: going into the Jamaica, Okay, that's what you want to do.
Speaker 2: Go, but I'm not gonna be able to go.
Speaker 1: Their guys might be able to go with them, but
Speaker 1: their guys don't have the responsibility. And it's one thing.
Speaker 1: It's one thing when I'm only responsible for me and you.
Speaker 1: But I got Ash, I got Jordan, I GOTZJ, I
Speaker 1: got a Shelley, I got other.
Speaker 2: People that are counting on me.
Speaker 1: So this's got to be a success because I've got
Speaker 1: other people that that that invested in me. Ash left
Speaker 1: for left a great job at Fox. She said, I
Speaker 1: believe in you. Shannon Jordan moved from Cincinnati, say I
Speaker 1: believe in you. C j Left says, Hey, I want
Speaker 1: to rock with you. So now I'm full I'm full
Speaker 1: speed ahead. If some things ain't right, this ain't right,
Speaker 1: fix it, I like, because it's not. It's not about
Speaker 1: because me.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can go right back to Atlanta, check my
Speaker 1: heels up and live and be straight.
Speaker 2: But that's not them. My job is to get them.
Speaker 1: When it's all sitting up, when I say, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm stepping away, I want each one of the preeople
Speaker 1: that work for me say you know what, Hey, you gon,
Speaker 1: we're going to we.
Speaker 4: Good, We're good. I like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I like that. That's what that's what I
Speaker 1: work for. That's what I look when and when when
Speaker 1: Ash or Jordan or CJ. When I see how excited
Speaker 1: they are to come to work, I said, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. I appreciate y'all. If you're watching, you
Speaker 4: know how I feel about you because I tell you
Speaker 4: I love you. Every day. Thank you, Thank you on
Speaker 4: behalf of myself and all eighty five of my kids,
Speaker 4: because if it wasn't for you, they wouldn't be able
Speaker 4: to eat. If it wasn't for you, they wouldn't be
Speaker 4: able to eat. Yeah, damn, we go. We're going to
Speaker 4: We're going to Chris Ruth nine. I'm taking the kids
Speaker 4: of Chris Ruth.
Speaker 2: You mean Ruth? You mean Ruth Chris? Huh? Who Ruth?
Speaker 2: Chris Chris?
Speaker 4: Maybe what's the name of the restaurant Chris Ruth?
Speaker 2: Right, Ruth Chris.
Speaker 4: Oh ship, I said it wrong, My bad bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that might be Ruth. That might be Ruth. Brother.
Speaker 2: He ain't open this story yet though.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't be knowing about that little fancy
Speaker 4: stuff everybody liked to go to. But I'm gonna take
Speaker 4: the kids. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I love you man, Thank you, thank you man. How
Speaker 4: many subscribers were we at?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know? So we got a
Speaker 1: fousand since we just been on there. Ohtod, here is
Speaker 1: the story I did. I Dina Manzel response over any
Speaker 1: racial aspect. She was married to Ty Diggs. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she said the relationship of the impact. She said, yeah,
Speaker 1: good actor. It seemed like there was disappointment in the
Speaker 1: community with him that t digs, a black man was
Speaker 1: married to a I think she used the word a
Speaker 1: white Jewish woman.
Speaker 2: That's what he said.
Speaker 1: Hug, he said on the vand lengthen show a man
Speaker 1: my guy seeing working out all the time, he said,
Speaker 1: the backlash he received from marrying a white woman and
Speaker 1: the resentment later built up inside. We left the other
Speaker 1: part out. But she's Jewish. And so for me, what
Speaker 1: is your takeaway? And I'm gonna get in to mind.
Speaker 1: What is your takeaway? She said? He was on the
Speaker 1: cover of Essence Everything, being interviewed by all these black journalists,
Speaker 1: and he had his own stuff to deal with that
Speaker 1: it was less about being successful and more about that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So what's your takeaway on that?
Speaker 4: I said, Listen, my takeaway, Love is love.
Speaker 2: Love is love.
Speaker 4: I'm just start there. I love is love. It's about
Speaker 4: finding someone that makes you happy. Now, if you are
Speaker 4: stuck on race and focus on finding someone of your
Speaker 4: ethnicity that makes you happy, then so be it. If
Speaker 4: you are maybe one that wants to venture out and
Speaker 4: enjoy other ethnicities and other races and trying to and
Speaker 4: submerge yourself in their culture and understanding their culture and
Speaker 4: finding love in that way. So be it. When I
Speaker 4: buy a bag of skin, I'm speaking for me personally.
Speaker 4: When I buy a bag of skittles, I don't pick
Speaker 4: and choose which ones I want to eat because I
Speaker 4: enjoy them all.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Quick, I enjoy all. I enjoy them all. Everyone has
Speaker 4: a preference. Everyone should be allowed to have a preference
Speaker 4: on who they date and who makes them happy. I
Speaker 4: think limiting ourselves to stay within a race is it's
Speaker 4: a little tough, and it's a it's a tricky conbo.
Speaker 4: It depends on the person. That depends on who you are,
Speaker 4: It depends on your background, and you know somebody, some
Speaker 4: people some people have parents. You can't you can't, you
Speaker 4: can't bring some of the opposite race in your home.
Speaker 4: It just at this point where we are, at this
Speaker 4: juncture in life in twenty twenty three, the fact that
Speaker 4: we are still stuck on this is beyond me.
Speaker 1: I'm not as your question, Oh, Joe, they were married
Speaker 1: for eleven years, and so if they're married for eleven years,
Speaker 1: they've probably dated for at least two years. So at
Speaker 1: what point in time in that thirteen year relationship did
Speaker 1: he realize that she was white?
Speaker 2: Did he wake up one for like? God?
Speaker 4: Do you do you think the pressure in the back
Speaker 4: lash because he was in an interracial marriage. Do you
Speaker 4: think it affected him? Do you think it got to him?
Speaker 4: Did affect his job where he wasn't able to do
Speaker 4: like something you said, being able to compartmentalize. You think
Speaker 4: he wasn't able to separate the two.
Speaker 1: I think he allowed the community to make decisions for him.
Speaker 1: He listened to the community and said, you this promident guy,
Speaker 1: because what they do is says that white person wouldn't
Speaker 1: that lady wouldn't talk do you if you weren't who
Speaker 1: you were?
Speaker 2: Well, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa?
Speaker 4: Did you know what you just said?
Speaker 1: Yes, I was saying the community, the community would say
Speaker 1: that white woman wouldn't talk to you if you weren't
Speaker 1: who you were.
Speaker 2: The community they look at it.
Speaker 4: Neither were the women in the community.
Speaker 1: I get that, Okay, thank you, but my thing is, oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: why does why?
Speaker 2: Why do I have to live?
Speaker 1: You do realize that when when doctor king Enrosa parks,
Speaker 1: they were fighting for more than your voting rights, more
Speaker 1: than a fair housing, more than unempartment rights.
Speaker 2: It was the right to be able to choose a choice,
Speaker 2: just like abortion.
Speaker 1: That should be that should be between the woman and
Speaker 1: her doctor, right, Okay, fine, whatever, that's a woman, Okay.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't who I date who I married?
Speaker 1: Shouldn't that be between me and my spouse without outside
Speaker 1: external forces from either community.
Speaker 2: Y'all don't have to live with them.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't have to feed us, y'all don't have to
Speaker 1: take care of anything. Why is this such a That's
Speaker 1: what I don't understand when I saw the criticism that
Speaker 1: Briannie was getting for taking a white young lady to
Speaker 1: the farm, and I see some.
Speaker 2: Of these other cat Why does it upset you so much?
Speaker 1: If it doesn't cost you anything thing, if it doesn't
Speaker 1: take any money out of your pocket, if it doesn't
Speaker 1: put any money on your table, why are you upset?
Speaker 2: Is somebody?
Speaker 1: Because even though he's dating somebody outside the community, what
Speaker 1: makes you think I was dating somebody in the community, it.
Speaker 2: Would be you.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a tough it's a tough it's
Speaker 4: a tough topic. It's very, very it can go one
Speaker 4: of two ways. You know, it can go south or
Speaker 4: it can go north. There's no in between. Listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not doctor Umar, you know, so's it's hard for me
Speaker 4: to really to dissect and get and dive deep into
Speaker 4: the topic. But all I can see is and say
Speaker 4: is based on me and preference is I love everybody.
Speaker 4: I love all walks of life, regardless of where you
Speaker 4: come from, regardlessthnicity, regards to your background. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: able to enjoy all circles. I can put myself in
Speaker 4: any environment and adapt to it. And for that I think,
Speaker 4: you know, but but but committee, I know, But just
Speaker 4: having to say, you know what, stick to this and
Speaker 4: just block off everything else in life. I just I
Speaker 4: don't know why they do it. You know, they're happy
Speaker 4: with athletes, with athletes when it basically when it comes
Speaker 4: to athletes, they say, well, once you get money, we
Speaker 4: always venture off and go date elsewhere outside of our race,
Speaker 4: out outside of our race. You know, once you get
Speaker 4: a little money, you start dating women that you actually
Speaker 4: wouldn't have access to, and you know, access to get well,
Speaker 4: that's in general and life and anything that you do
Speaker 4: you want to you never want to stay the same.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just you go for what you like.
Speaker 4: And that's just the nature of the beast, the way
Speaker 4: it's always been. Listen, it's all about what makes you happy.
Speaker 4: What makes you happy. You can't you can't live for
Speaker 4: nobody else. You just can't.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, the cover of the famous case was
Speaker 1: a Loving versus Virginia about a black interracial couple that
Speaker 1: was married. Uh. And you know before it was against
Speaker 1: the law to cohabitat black and a white couldn't cohabitate together.
Speaker 1: They threw that your three a half in jail. Well, ye, yes,
Speaker 1: this was this was they got married in fifty eight.
Speaker 1: They were arrested, got put in jail. But before it
Speaker 1: was illegal, black and white couldn't cohabitated that capacity.
Speaker 2: It was illegal. They won the case in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1: It was a it was a movie made about it, Uh,
Speaker 1: Mildred and Richard Loving.
Speaker 2: But I just I just don't, I just forget that.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I've had people on both sides of
Speaker 1: the hours treat me good.
Speaker 2: I mean me.
Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, I look at the
Speaker 1: Internet when people talking crazy, it ain't it ain't it
Speaker 1: ain't the opposite race talking crazy to me.
Speaker 2: It's my race.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my community.
Speaker 2: That's my community. Right.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad. I'm so glad we're on the topic,
Speaker 4: so that we now that we're on this topic, you
Speaker 4: have no problem with dating outside of your race, right still.
Speaker 1: I'm just I've dated that, I've dated outside of my
Speaker 1: race right now. I mean, not a whole It's not
Speaker 1: I haven't dated the rainboy. It's not like I'm a
Speaker 1: you know, Hispanic things like that, but it's normally you.
Speaker 2: Know, white and black, right, Yeah, I don't have I
Speaker 2: don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, the outside noise. Does the outside noise bother you?
Speaker 4: Does that deter you from dealing with them? No?
Speaker 1: They don't pay no bills. Ain't nobody the only it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. My grandmother never had a problem with it.
Speaker 1: And when I dated my grandmother's like she would, they would,
Speaker 1: she would actually talk to them on the phone. If
Speaker 1: my grandmother didn't have a problem, Now, if it probably
Speaker 1: would have been an issue, if my grandmother would have
Speaker 1: felt some type of way, I probably.
Speaker 2: I don't think I could have gone. I don't think I.
Speaker 1: Could have gone against some wishes, because that's how much
Speaker 1: an influence that she had on me, but because she
Speaker 1: embraced it. And I mean when I was growing up
Speaker 1: working on the farm and and when we needed money,
Speaker 1: my grandmother would go to Joe Tatum, the guy that
Speaker 1: we've worked for, and says a joke, and I borrowed
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. These boys need to go there. So these
Speaker 1: boys need to get that. They'll pay it back when
Speaker 1: they start working for you in the summer. Right, He
Speaker 1: could have said no. So when I look at it,
Speaker 1: when I and mis Kills, ms Kills treated me like
Speaker 1: she was my remedial. She was my media reading teacher
Speaker 1: in high school and my Spanish teacher, and she talked
Speaker 1: she I mean man, and that woman the way she
Speaker 1: like I was her own child. She had no fn
Speaker 1: idea I was gonna grow up to be what I became,
Speaker 1: but it didn't matter to her. She saw somebody, she
Speaker 1: saw a young black kid that was struggling because he
Speaker 1: was bull driving around and she pulled me to the side,
Speaker 1: and you know what she told me, Oh Joe, She said, Jennen,
Speaker 1: your brother is sterling.
Speaker 2: That's not you.
Speaker 1: Don't you want your own, right, I taught him. He
Speaker 1: was great in school, Yes, he was great on the
Speaker 1: football field. And you're great on the football field, you're
Speaker 1: great in basketball, you're great in track.
Speaker 2: But you youffing around in here.
Speaker 1: So when I was Spanish class, where everybody else could
Speaker 1: call the classmates and talk, I had to call her
Speaker 1: and talk Spanish.
Speaker 4: I could teach you. Look, yo, you know how good
Speaker 4: is your Spanish?
Speaker 2: Now? It ain't good? Bro?
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: That was the nineteen eighty seven, So how long would
Speaker 2: gould that be?
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a man, that's a little man. That's a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 2: I did. I did.
Speaker 1: I did just enough because you know, back there, you
Speaker 1: had to have the classes that were to go towards graduation.
Speaker 2: You had to have thought.
Speaker 1: So I just took that to get that on, to
Speaker 1: get that up out there, I said, miskills, I got
Speaker 1: to get up out of here. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: be But I got it out of there. So for me,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, I don't. I don't have no problem when
Speaker 1: I see when I see someone from Hollywood that's dating
Speaker 1: outside of the race, right, I'm like, oh you wait,
Speaker 1: you get in the Hollywood to get you somebody like that.
Speaker 1: That man wouldn't even look at you if you would,
Speaker 1: you don't do that. If I see somebody walking down
Speaker 1: the street, Hey you comfortable. Oh man, it looks so happy.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it, because it ain't take it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't rob me of anything.
Speaker 1: It doesn't rob me of energy, it doesn't rob me
Speaker 1: of money, it doesn't rob me of time. It takes
Speaker 1: nothing from me. So I don't get why so many
Speaker 1: people get so upset. And if it doesn't take anything
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just been that way for a very long time,
Speaker 4: and that something like that will never change. It would
Speaker 4: never change. And just I mean I always say the
Speaker 4: same thing, man, they who makes you happy? And again,
Speaker 4: like me, I love everybody. It's it's always been a
Speaker 4: moniker of mind. It's something that I've always tweeted and
Speaker 4: always preached for the longest. And it's the fact that
Speaker 4: we're still on that, especially at this day and age.
Speaker 4: It is what it is. And I think just our people,
Speaker 4: our race really wants us with us. And maybe there
Speaker 4: maybe other races feel the same way, but they're not.
Speaker 2: You want to happy? Yeah, don't you want to us happy? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Don't you want to be happy.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you can't be happy with your
Speaker 1: own race, right, But if I'm happy, if I find
Speaker 1: somebody and I'm happy with them, don't you want me
Speaker 1: to be at the end of the day. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: that person isn't mistreated me, if that person isn't harming me,
Speaker 1: don't you want my happiness above all else?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I want people to be happy right now, above all else. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: forget all of that. I want you to be happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, bababe, You happy, Okay? Yeah, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: just making sure. She said sometimes Now she said, she said.
Speaker 1: You said you she said, you just told me to
Speaker 1: the Usher concerts, So I'm happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well she paid for it, so.
Speaker 2: Rail you paid for a time on Reil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, she ain't a bread with or not me.
Speaker 2: What you want me to do? Rail?
Speaker 1: A real he's making good money over here, real, hey,
Speaker 1: making good money. I know he ain't told you.
Speaker 4: Listen, sir, she making ten times what I'm making. I'm not,
Speaker 4: ain't man funk all.
Speaker 1: That just just temporarily, just a temporarily, that's the timporarily.
Speaker 1: You got me, you got me, hey, Hey, go ahead,
Speaker 1: let me know because I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't even talk back right now. Let me know
Speaker 4: when the money start rolling there because I can't even
Speaker 4: talk back right there.
Speaker 5: Get out, get out you you know, whoever control control
Speaker 5: of the money, control the lots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, you ain't got to tell me. I'll
Speaker 4: be walking on eggs shell some time, broy, you ain't
Speaker 4: got to tell me. He help me out.
Speaker 1: I remember my grandfathers used to tell my aunts. They
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, okay, be back in the
Speaker 1: house at this time. You know, they grumble. My grandfather said,
Speaker 1: don't grumble and statem he said, he said, don't tell me,
Speaker 1: don't tell me what a sorry you know what I am,
Speaker 1: And stay in my under under my roof, right right right,
Speaker 1: get your own place and tell me what I both
Speaker 1: for I am. Yeah, like that, and eventually they did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got to be. Oh yeah, for sure. My grandfather
Speaker 1: roole thinking with the iron fists. Yeah, he didn't didn't play.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so it was.
Speaker 2: It was. It was the best.
Speaker 1: Uh hey, shout out the puff who just donated fifty dollars, Puck,
Speaker 1: we appreciate that now he did it?
Speaker 2: Puff?
Speaker 1: Looking at that that might be might have been Diddy Hey, hey, Puffy,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. Baby appreciate that nothing. He can't
Speaker 1: get no credit for this with this.
Speaker 4: He gave this the he gave a whole.
Speaker 2: Get a whole here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the NFL is not only allowing but they're encouraging
Speaker 1: active players to participate it participate in flag football. In
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight Olympics in l A. Everybody keep saying, uh,
Speaker 1: the US A gonna run away with this.
Speaker 2: Who's your who's your call? Okay, twenty twenty eight? Who's
Speaker 2: your quarterback?
Speaker 4: Twenty sweet quarterback? You might let's go pack?
Speaker 2: Okay, you go, Okay, who you are? Receivers?
Speaker 4: Give me Tyreek, Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: Now you do realize that these guys gonna be have
Speaker 1: to like have to to kind of go hot browth way.
Speaker 2: So you just can't just low, Okay, who you're gonna be.
Speaker 1: Your dB because you probably need you probably need the smaller.
Speaker 1: This is flag football, now, Yeah, they catch the ball,
Speaker 1: they're gonna need to be in the pool flags.
Speaker 4: Joe, hold on, hold on, okay, Okay, I got you
Speaker 4: all right, you know Sathi Samuel Jr. Samuel Jr. Give
Speaker 4: me I'm trying to think of DB's that are really twitchy.
Speaker 4: Give me Marshaan Lattimore, a Terrell Are No, Denzel Ward.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of people that are really twitted,
Speaker 4: like twitchy, twitchy, Denzel Ward, Marshaan Lattimore, and the Sati
Speaker 4: Samuel Jr.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because you know, you know, you know, Jamaican's
Speaker 1: got some speed too, now, but the only thing about
Speaker 1: them they don't know how to.
Speaker 2: Control that speed. I guess it did a whole lot
Speaker 2: of Jamaica straight.
Speaker 4: They run it straight if it ain't if it ain't soccer,
Speaker 4: if it ain't soccer, they ain't ready. We would run
Speaker 4: away with that. Now you think you know, live it
Speaker 4: man Olympics.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Joe, but you do realize that they got like like
Speaker 1: the other countries, they've already started flag league, so we
Speaker 1: got flag leagues also.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're saying flag leagues.
Speaker 2: Yes, So you said, for god those and let the
Speaker 2: NFL players come in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that wouldn't be fair. That wouldn't be fair. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying no, honestly, listen, and no disrespect to the
Speaker 4: game of football today, but they damn they're playing flag
Speaker 4: football new pass on for sure. I mean I mean
Speaker 4: that with all due respect.
Speaker 1: Right, it's it's it's a it's a different ball game.
Speaker 1: We understand why with the head trauma, uh, with CTE,
Speaker 1: with some of our most prominent players of leaving early.
Speaker 2: Uh and so we do understand, but it is a
Speaker 2: different game.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a The game is a lot more speed,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more uh uh technical now than just
Speaker 1: so so much the less physicality. Right, so you had
Speaker 1: to have skill obviously, but you had to have well,
Speaker 1: you have to have a big one of these. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think, because guys are looking at the chick. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get out here on this one. Jared Judy says,
Speaker 1: stats doesn't tell the story open. But the old line
Speaker 1: don't do their thing, The quarterback didn't do his job.
Speaker 1: The old z puts you in a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: got to go through as a receiver for you to
Speaker 1: be successful. And guess what the old line can block.
Speaker 1: The quarterback can throw you the ball. The quarter the
Speaker 1: courding that it could call it great play and you
Speaker 1: ain't get open. Now, who fought is that?
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy is in a tough situation that's my dude,
Speaker 4: that's home team. I love him to death, but all
Speaker 4: I need is to put his head down and keep
Speaker 4: on chopping wood. Keep on chopping wood, because you're in
Speaker 4: a situation that you can't win.
Speaker 2: You in a situation cherry unwinnable.
Speaker 4: I know you, Finnah, see this. You ain't You ain't
Speaker 4: gonna win this one. Put your head down, put the
Speaker 4: dreads in them, put the dredds back in the ponytail,
Speaker 4: and then go to work. You know what you could do.
Speaker 4: I know what you could do. I stood on ten
Speaker 4: toes by you for the longest. Don't even give no
Speaker 4: bullets to ball material, don't give nothing else to talk about.
Speaker 4: You in a situation, make the most of it. And
Speaker 4: if the situation is gonna change, how about you. I
Speaker 4: need you, my dog. I need you to be the
Speaker 4: reason the situation changes, be the go to be the solution,
Speaker 4: not the problem.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a situation where I wish you could have
Speaker 1: talked to him and says I would put that on me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I knew you a better job of getting open. I
Speaker 1: knew I need to do a better job of winning my.
Speaker 2: One on one.
Speaker 1: I need to be I need to step up and
Speaker 1: have the coordinator have more confidence than me because I'm
Speaker 1: doing my job. And when they watch the film, they
Speaker 1: don't have a choice but to give.
Speaker 2: Me the ball. Right. So that's how it was. I
Speaker 2: got to practice. They have no They had to play
Speaker 2: me sooner or later.
Speaker 1: Right if I was cooking the guys that they would
Speaker 1: saying that out there to play on Sunday.
Speaker 2: That was starting. They had to put me in the
Speaker 2: game sooner later they have no choice. And guess what.
Speaker 2: And at first they put me in. I was just blocking.
Speaker 2: But at some point in time, guess what.
Speaker 1: When they go back and watch that film, they was like, man,
Speaker 1: eighty one open because I started. I was eighty one
Speaker 1: at first and then I got eighty four and they's like, hold.
Speaker 2: On, man, that was that quarterback. That quarterback went to
Speaker 2: the pro boil, right, he beat it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hey, So now I come in on Wednesday. They got
Speaker 1: a little package for eighty four, y'all. Yeah, okay, that's
Speaker 1: how I guess what you get? That little package got
Speaker 1: a little eighty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Jim Fossil rest his soul.
Speaker 1: He came in in ninety three and said, son, I
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's ever done this, but I would
Speaker 1: build my office around.
Speaker 4: You tight end. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 1: So now imagine, oh Joe, imagine, coordinator comes in because
Speaker 1: Wade is my head.
Speaker 2: Wade is the head coach.
Speaker 1: Now he was the defensive coordinator, Wade Phillips. See, Wade
Speaker 1: was a defensive coordinator. When I got to Denmer, okay,
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan was the linebackers coach. Right, Jarrick Coopy Yak
Speaker 1: I played with Cool. Cool was my quarter back up
Speaker 1: quarterback see cove, the one that ripped. Of all the players.
Speaker 1: Cool helped me the most because Cool would tell me
Speaker 1: what to do. He's like, Okay, they gonna put you it. Hey,
Speaker 1: they used to call it because I was big in country.
Speaker 1: They used to call me greasy. He said, greasy. They're
Speaker 1: gonna put you in on display.
Speaker 2: Right here.
Speaker 1: This is what you got, he said. Now, if there's
Speaker 1: a safety in the middle of the field, you run
Speaker 1: the corner route.
Speaker 2: He says. If you see those safeties and they split,
Speaker 2: you go down the middle middle.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, So he tell such and such, Hey, get open,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a pall. So Cool we come
Speaker 1: in and feed me. Yeah, bro, I mean I mean
Speaker 1: my second year. So cool coming. He So back then,
Speaker 1: if a tight end call, like a ten or fifteen
Speaker 1: yard pass, you got ten dollars. So yeah, back then
Speaker 1: there wasn't no Saturday caps, so they could do it.
Speaker 1: So Cooler come in. So I was running with the
Speaker 1: number two. Cooler come in, said greasy, let's go get
Speaker 1: some piece of money. So okay, I got me thirty
Speaker 1: dollars because I didn't hit him up. I didn't hit
Speaker 1: him up with Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 4: The piece of money was in practice, not the game.
Speaker 2: No, in practice. We did training camp.
Speaker 1: Oh yore, Oh man, man, I like that. Cool was like, hey, cool,
Speaker 1: like a greasy come on, let's get this. Let's let's
Speaker 1: go get some pizza money. So I'm getting in the game,
Speaker 1: he said, greasy, I'm coming man, please.
Speaker 2: Man. I was cooking them. I was cooking them backwards
Speaker 2: and then back then I was too physical for them.
Speaker 2: I was too physical. I'm talking about they come try
Speaker 2: to they come try to press me.
Speaker 4: Uh get yours?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got a card.
Speaker 1: I got a card with a Henley, the one that
Speaker 1: got in trouble. He tried to put a hit that
Speaker 1: he's running. He was doing cocaine. He tried to put
Speaker 1: a hit on the judge. He's serving forty years, played
Speaker 1: for the Rams.
Speaker 4: He tried to put a hit on the judge.
Speaker 2: Oh, he tried to put a hit on the judge.
Speaker 2: Oh he he was in the league and had a
Speaker 2: whole cartail, had a whole operation.
Speaker 4: Oh he watched too much TV man, Oh.
Speaker 2: No he had. Oh they did try to put a
Speaker 2: hit on the judge. Oh he could. They gave him fault.
Speaker 2: It faught it long one. Oh.
Speaker 4: So he out, now, no, he ain't out.
Speaker 1: This was in uh, this was in ninety three, ninety three,
Speaker 1: ninety four, that mighta been ninety four to ninety five.
Speaker 2: He got so what is so five fifteen, twenty five
Speaker 2: shorty five? Oh he gonna pull all that time. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he gonna pull all that time. Eight he told the judge,
Speaker 2: And they judge. I can't do all the time to judge.
Speaker 2: They do what you can, judge, they do what you can.
Speaker 2: You can't do it all. Just do what you can
Speaker 2: and whatever you got left over, we'll let that go.
Speaker 2: But just do what you can't. Yeah, yeah, man, but
Speaker 2: those were black in the day. Again.
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Speaker 2: What you got? What you got? Where you going to
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Speaker 4: Now? Listen? I just saw something, right it quick quiler
Speaker 4: excert excerpt. So you you ain't got no old lady?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: And I told you I was searching. I've been looking,
Speaker 4: I've been talking to some people, right, And then it's
Speaker 4: so crazy, like the speed up the process, like oh, ship,
Speaker 4: this really makes sense. Boom, you know, one plus one
Speaker 4: equal to So I looked at him like, oh I
Speaker 4: saw kim k Like she said, like, oh, I'm looking
Speaker 4: for an older man, you know, after my separation from
Speaker 4: from Pete Davidson. I'm like, oh shit, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Listen to me, stay with me, that baby, stay with me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish I wish you.
Speaker 4: It's perfect. I just talked uncle, and I'm just saying, well,
Speaker 4: uncod going on, you know, the vision and being focused
Speaker 4: and him being busy. Well, Kim would be the perfect
Speaker 4: person because she busy and he be she be focused.
Speaker 4: So whenever they have time to get together, boom we
Speaker 4: could and knowing but Chris Jenner, what she could do?
Speaker 4: What y'all coming to y'all could be like a power
Speaker 4: like a power like power Rangers or a power couple,
Speaker 4: whatever they call it. Like, what you think about that
Speaker 4: before before I make that call? What you think about that?
Speaker 2: Man, Kanye are gonna write on this track about me,
Speaker 2: He's gonna.
Speaker 4: Right listen, Kanye is in, is married, he's gone, he's
Speaker 4: in it. He's just he ain't even in the picture
Speaker 4: right now. So I'm saying I'm saying this with all
Speaker 4: due respect before I made this call. And you know,
Speaker 4: think about what happened with Travis Kelce. Stay with me,
Speaker 4: Stay with me, understand Taylor Swift came into his life
Speaker 4: and everything exponentially just shot up. Think about what with
Speaker 4: with with Kim and that that entity itself can do
Speaker 4: for club shake shape? Right, huh? Talk to me, stay
Speaker 4: with me now? Yeah, let me know, let me let
Speaker 4: me know before, let me know. Wait, hold on, let
Speaker 4: me see it. Let me know before I made the call.
Speaker 2: First of all, what you think I read? I heard
Speaker 2: what she said. I read it in the article.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, she said.
Speaker 2: She's looking for someone in the forties. Clearly I'm not
Speaker 2: in my forties.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 4: wait wait wait. You gotta understand you're black, right, so
Speaker 4: you don't really have to be in it. You could
Speaker 4: be in whatever age you are. You look forty, so
Speaker 4: it don't matter because we age different, we age gracefully.
Speaker 4: So you get our fifty is really forty sometimes thirty,
Speaker 4: depending on who you are.
Speaker 2: So you good.
Speaker 4: So you you check that box, and now find me
Speaker 4: another excuse.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really have an excuse for your other than
Speaker 1: the fact that play it cool. Now there's none of
Speaker 1: the visit.
Speaker 2: Oh your the visibility. Man, I'm a private I'm too private. No,
Speaker 2: not too private. I wish I wish you the best,
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 4: Let's not play this game now, you just so you
Speaker 4: were just on a goddamn day with Slini gold Man
Speaker 4: and try to play it off like y'all didn't come
Speaker 4: together by leaving separately and just so happen. Your car
Speaker 4: ain't come up in a goddamn time. Now you talk
Speaker 4: about you scared of some goddamn visibility. That's what you
Speaker 4: need right now. That's what we're trying to do. Then,
Speaker 4: vision that you have and the people that you have
Speaker 4: to take care of that you just named early in
Speaker 4: the show, and trying to reach that pinnacle of success
Speaker 4: where y'all could at some point say you know what
Speaker 4: we've done. You having that into your life can get
Speaker 4: you to that goal much faster than anybody else. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you need to be but you know you need
Speaker 4: to rethink this because you're not You're not thinking straight
Speaker 4: right now. Look, you're not thinking straight right now. That's
Speaker 4: that's the problem you Well.
Speaker 2: No, I am.
Speaker 1: Look for me, Like if I went away tomorrow, the kids,
Speaker 1: my sister, my mom, they straight ain't nobody got to
Speaker 1: work the rest of their life if they didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Hopefully my kids are not like that and say it's okay,
Speaker 1: I got this amount of money, I'm done with it.
Speaker 2: I need to sit down and just chill.
Speaker 1: I hope only that's not the case right right, but
Speaker 1: now is for the opportunity for the people that's helping
Speaker 1: me with Shaysha media, all the people now from the
Speaker 1: ground floor that started with me. When we grow and
Speaker 1: I say, look, God has been a great run. But
Speaker 1: now it's time for me to enjoy some of the
Speaker 1: things that I've accumulated. It's time for me to step away.
Speaker 1: If they want to continue to work, that's them. Hey,
Speaker 1: Ashley twenty plus years younger than me, Jeordan thirty years
Speaker 1: younger than me, whatever the case may be, CJ.
Speaker 2: Whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 1: That's a decision that they can make. But I do
Speaker 1: want to put them in a situation. But if they say,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I work part time, but I
Speaker 1: ain't been the grind like we've grinding.
Speaker 2: For the last ten five ten years, right, that's that's
Speaker 2: what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to be I want to
Speaker 1: be able to do for my workers what I've seen
Speaker 1: some of the other corporations do for the workers that
Speaker 1: got in at the bottom floor.
Speaker 2: The kids, straight, the kids, the grandkids, They're gonna be straight, right.
Speaker 4: You know, I need you to see the bigger picture.
Speaker 4: Right now, young you're not seeing the bigger do.
Speaker 2: You can you? Let's just say, for the sake of argument,
Speaker 2: let's just say for the sake of where we go.
Speaker 4: Now we're on the same page.
Speaker 2: Nowaday you talk to me, bro I went out with
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, we'll wake up tomorrow and Uncle o Jo would
Speaker 1: have two million subscribe.
Speaker 4: Subs five five million, five.
Speaker 2: You would to have three billion subs.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, that's now we're on the same page. Come
Speaker 4: on now, now, come on now, Kim, Kim, I know
Speaker 4: you're gonna see this. Kim, listen to me, chest not
Speaker 4: check his mama. You know, with all the respected.
Speaker 2: Look what they've been able to do. I think they're
Speaker 2: an amazing fan.
Speaker 4: Not phenomenal, phenomenally What what what Chris.
Speaker 1: Has been able to do for her daughters a lot
Speaker 1: of times? What the the what Kim went through? What
Speaker 1: a derail crippled anybody else's career for for them to
Speaker 1: clean that up, to package that and to go to
Speaker 1: where they went to ascend.
Speaker 4: To the heights, the highest, the highest of heights.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but uh, I wish you the best, o Joe,
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't worry about it. I got you. I'm gonna,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm gonna make that call. I'm gonna make
Speaker 4: that call because you know, I know people in high places.
Speaker 1: I know you know, yeah, look o Jo, you know
Speaker 1: and the last and the last probably like two months. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I've been in touch with people and people will.
Speaker 2: Stot, hey give him my number. No no, no, no
Speaker 2: no no.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the business. So you saw up,
Speaker 1: you saw I sat up? Yeah, yeah, yeah no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: trust me. No women to have reached out uh uh
Speaker 1: and try to hit you with the number. But but
Speaker 1: it's just the relationship and what club shah and what
Speaker 1: uh not cap and and being on ESPN is and
Speaker 1: what it's been able to do for my brand and
Speaker 1: the opportunity that I've been able that I've been afforded
Speaker 1: and I've been able to to to get if you're
Speaker 1: an opportunity and hopefully you can take it and like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like uncle Ojo, But hey, I kind of want
Speaker 1: to do something also.
Speaker 4: I want to Yeah, I want to. I want to
Speaker 4: do first take. And I've been asking for a whole month.
Speaker 4: I been asked to do first take for a whole month,
Speaker 4: and still to this day, I ain't getting nothing. But excuses,
Speaker 4: but it's okay, but go ahead, o jo ojo.
Speaker 2: We were doing so good. I mean he was courteous,
Speaker 2: you recepted the courtesy, you were understanding, and then boom.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I'm just still we're still at square one. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 4: in life, all you need is to pick me up.
Speaker 4: I need you, I need you to be I need
Speaker 4: you to I need to be Travis Kelsey. I need
Speaker 4: you to be my Taylor Swift. Bring me and put
Speaker 4: me on first take, and I do. I take care
Speaker 4: of the rest from them.
Speaker 2: That's it. You have you ever been on first take before?
Speaker 4: Yeah? About twenty years ago. About twenty years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, and I out debated stephen A and Skip.
Speaker 4: Yeah they could. They couldn't touch me. They couldn't touch you.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have your info. Yeah no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: I don't want them to call me. I want you
Speaker 4: to give me the call so I can feel proud that,
Speaker 4: you know what, my partner, someone that I can fight
Speaker 4: and someone that I trusted, someone that gave me an
Speaker 4: opportunity to have a little bit of visibility, got me
Speaker 4: that job. I don't want them to hit me. I
Speaker 4: want you to be every like, oh, hoe, you won't believe.
Speaker 2: This, bro, how do you expect me to get you
Speaker 2: a job?
Speaker 4: That's you have the power? I ain't you just said
Speaker 4: that you have. You have been afforded the opportunities that
Speaker 4: have come for you, and that is where you take me.
Speaker 4: You take your partner with you. Well, listen, they got
Speaker 4: me this. That's what we do.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing, and right now, our partnership, it
Speaker 1: might just be digitally, and that's.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're not It ain't gotta be digitally.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying it might not be linear. We
Speaker 2: might not have a show on regular television.
Speaker 1: And that's okay, right, because think about it, mister Beast
Speaker 1: does fifty sixty million dollars a year and he's not.
Speaker 2: On one regular channel. Everything he does is digitally.
Speaker 1: There are people Joe Rogan, he's not on regular television, right,
Speaker 1: he does thirty million a year.
Speaker 2: So we've got to get out of that mindset about TV.
Speaker 2: TV is great.
Speaker 4: I just want to be on. I just want to
Speaker 4: go on first take once.
Speaker 2: That's all. I like it. I like what.
Speaker 4: I like this, what we're doing. I ain't saying this
Speaker 4: got to be this. I'm talking about the separate entity
Speaker 4: in itself. I'm trying to diversify my portfolio. I want
Speaker 4: my resume to say, oh he been on first take.
Speaker 4: Oh he got clubs, work, huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing a little do a little a tech, h
Speaker 1: a little uh, oil and gas, yeah, uh yeah, a
Speaker 1: little some of the financials.
Speaker 2: You be straight. Her bitcoin is making a comeback.
Speaker 4: But hey, I ain't trying to do all that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I need I need something. I need. I need the
Speaker 4: people to see this. They look at you.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you too. Yeah I like it.
Speaker 4: But but we're good. I mean we're we're We're tap
Speaker 4: back in and and we'll revisit this back in. Uh,
Speaker 4: what's today Monday? Well today, what's today?
Speaker 2: Thursday?
Speaker 4: Oh it's Thursday. Listen, we'll revisit this conversation Sunday.
Speaker 2: Oh what what what we're gonna visit? Oh?
Speaker 4: Just about about what direction not were trying to go into?
Speaker 4: What direction we're trying to go into. As far as
Speaker 4: finding you a partner. We got to fix that because
Speaker 4: because I love what you're trying to do. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna be complete until it has the touch
Speaker 4: of a woman that understands what you have going on
Speaker 4: and willed to sacrifice to take that journey with you.
Speaker 2: Hold on.
Speaker 1: Tyreek was just on TV the other Shannon Sharp was
Speaker 1: just on TV the other day and saying Tyreek is
Speaker 1: the most dangerous weapon in the league, like, oh, two
Speaker 1: years ago, I couldn't do this.
Speaker 2: What did I say? You couldn't do.
Speaker 4: Me?
Speaker 2: No, Tyreek.
Speaker 1: Ty Reek was on his podcast today and he said
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp just the other day said Tyreek was the
Speaker 1: most dangerous weapon in the league, like two years ago,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do this? What did I say you couldn't
Speaker 1: do I'm always giving you your flower. You said you
Speaker 1: started out. I said, you started out as a gadget guy.
Speaker 1: You talked yourself thro route tree because mainly you was
Speaker 1: a punt returner. You had a little packag. You're a
Speaker 1: point returner, kick return you have packages. You turn yourself
Speaker 1: into a great receiver. Now you're every down player and
Speaker 1: you're well on your way to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I think it was like when Steve Smith said, Steve
Speaker 1: Smith and I had a conversation, yes, sir, and when
Speaker 1: I said hands and he said Tyreek was a body
Speaker 1: well he was a body catcher.
Speaker 2: Look but see here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Now, he took what I said, and let's just say,
Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, he said what I said.
Speaker 1: Why he didn't give me why you see what he said.
Speaker 1: Oh the other day shatter sharp said he was the
Speaker 1: most dangerous repord and two years ago.
Speaker 2: See, he didn't leave it at that. He went back.
Speaker 1: You see how the minus wire, you see how the
Speaker 1: human wire is wire. Not the praise, but the magg
Speaker 1: something that I said that I did it. I don't
Speaker 1: remember saying it. But if I said I'm gonna go back,
Speaker 1: I go back and see. But I think over the
Speaker 1: years it's probably seven hundred and fifty great things to one.
Speaker 1: But that didn't matter only if you don't praise these
Speaker 1: guys in today's game, every single word that comes out
Speaker 1: of your mouth.
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't beat you up with.
Speaker 1: Those when your last year there you had like three
Speaker 1: or four picks that went off your hand, three or
Speaker 1: four balls that went off your hand and got intercepted.
Speaker 2: I didn't kill you.
Speaker 4: I didn't see it. I didn't see it. So it's hard.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to but.
Speaker 1: Still I still think he's a phenomenal receiver. I hope
Speaker 1: he goes over two thousand. I think I still think
Speaker 1: he's the most dangerous man in football, regardless of position.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's where it is. He's from Georgia.
Speaker 1: I have the utmost respect for him. I met his
Speaker 1: mom when they came and did my podcast. So, Ree,
Speaker 1: if you feel offended by something that I said, I apologize.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyree, why don't you telling people how to lock
Speaker 4: your ass up in the offseason. Yeah, I'm the only
Speaker 4: one that don covered him, only one.
Speaker 2: I love him.
Speaker 4: I love him to death.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Oh Joe, you can't be no dB at
Speaker 1: what you WHOA the footage is on film?
Speaker 4: Asked, asked Tyreek? What I did to him? Asked a B.
Speaker 4: What I did to him? And Jamar Chase, as Davante
Speaker 4: Adams and Justin Jefferson. I locked them down.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Oho, you kind of slew for the though who you
Speaker 1: I am?
Speaker 2: I am?
Speaker 4: That's that's why I can stop on a dime.
Speaker 2: What they call you, they call you back, they say
Speaker 2: when you were to call you slop.
Speaker 4: The fact that I'm slow for is why I'm able
Speaker 4: to run full speed and stop like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm special man, special man.
Speaker 2: Got to do that. Huh yeah, because you know what
Speaker 2: I saw it.
Speaker 1: I saw it on ah, I saw it on a
Speaker 1: on YouTube, but I couldn't find it where he's actually
Speaker 1: saying because he was talking and you know, I just
Speaker 1: try to get to the part where he said that.
Speaker 2: He where he said that he called me out.
Speaker 4: But you gotta but here.
Speaker 1: But it's called like, uh up there to your resume, tyree.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. If you were
Speaker 1: to win Offensive Player of the Year this year, why
Speaker 1: did you win in the year's past? Maybe some things change.
Speaker 1: You see how that works out, Joe. Yeah, So are
Speaker 1: you going to say, when y'all vote the offensive player
Speaker 1: four years ago?
Speaker 4: What changed?
Speaker 2: Mm?
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 4: Listen, it's it's the nature. It's the nature of the beast,
Speaker 4: and understand and understanding. I want our current players today
Speaker 4: to be able to take criticism a little bit better,
Speaker 4: understand that it's not personal.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: But they will remember it. They will remember it. And
Speaker 4: I know because I'm still I'd like to say, I'm
Speaker 4: still young myself, but not too far removed from the game.
Speaker 4: And anytime I hear anything negative, well, I'm one of
Speaker 4: the few who don't care. I just you know, I
Speaker 4: just don't care what nobody say anyway, but at times
Speaker 4: that it bothers the players at times. At times it
Speaker 4: bothers the players and it can affect them and they
Speaker 4: remember that stuff and they hang on to it and
Speaker 4: they have a resentment towards the people that say some
Speaker 4: of the things that they say. That's why I'm so careful.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm so careful at times with being too
Speaker 4: critical because I used to once be that player. I
Speaker 4: used to want to be on that field. I was
Speaker 4: once one of the players that dropped balls, had bad games.
Speaker 4: So it's it's to me, it's it's very hard for
Speaker 4: me to sit up here and be like, well, god damn,
Speaker 4: you should have did this, But goddamn, you should have
Speaker 4: did that. You should have did that, because I was
Speaker 4: once in that position, so I empathize with them.
Speaker 1: But because because you were in that position, you know
Speaker 1: what's capable for guys that's in that position. So you're
Speaker 1: not you're not speaking from someone that doesn't know, because
Speaker 1: you've been an All Pro, You've been a Pro Bowl receiver,
Speaker 1: so you you're speaking from a point of knowledge.
Speaker 2: See those that can do those that can talk right.
Speaker 4: Right, So I differently already did though it's not right.
Speaker 4: And again this is this is training that I will
Speaker 4: do so I can, so I can find that happy
Speaker 4: medium where I can be critical and still it's not
Speaker 4: you know, like my grandma used to tell me, it's
Speaker 4: not what you say, is how you say it, and
Speaker 4: that's all that comes down. It's not what you say
Speaker 4: and just how you say it. Delivery is very important.
Speaker 4: You you've had, you've had, you've been married before, right,
Speaker 4: you've been married. No, no, well you had a woman.
Speaker 4: It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Speaker 4: Depending on who you're talking to, delivery has to be
Speaker 4: on point, o Joe.
Speaker 1: You can tell a woman say babe, yes sir, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't if I don't think you should wear that?
Speaker 2: Are you.
Speaker 1: Look at my delivery, maeobe, I don't think you should
Speaker 1: wear that. It didn't matter because the way she the
Speaker 1: way she perceived it. So it doesn't matter how you
Speaker 1: come at these guys delivery. In fact, it's just the
Speaker 1: fact that you're not praising them. Because when you when
Speaker 1: you oh Joe, you know this, when you're a professional
Speaker 1: and you good, and all you get is praise, praise,
Speaker 1: praise and you don't hear anything negative. When you hear negative,
Speaker 1: you forget about all the praise. That's why the wins
Speaker 1: never feels as good as the bad loss hurt right
Speaker 1: right right, So no matter how much, no matter how
Speaker 1: much I praise the player, I can praise the player
Speaker 1: for ten years.
Speaker 2: The one time in time I.
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, you're right, you're right by that, you're right
Speaker 4: bay that listen, and ain't we it just we talk
Speaker 4: about life in general, talk about when people always need
Speaker 4: something and you always give, give given. Then one time
Speaker 4: you say, no, oh, nigga, you ain't never, you ain't
Speaker 4: never done nothing for a nigga. Man, you ain't and
Speaker 4: that's all you.
Speaker 2: Add your funny.
Speaker 4: Now, Oh, it's like that.
Speaker 2: You got to.
Speaker 1: You got to put limits on what you give because
Speaker 1: takers will never putting.
Speaker 2: Limits on what they take take.
Speaker 4: Oh no, never, never, So.
Speaker 2: You got to put the limits on it. Bro Oyo.
Speaker 1: I can take a thousand pictures, Yeah, I don't take
Speaker 1: a thousand and one. Man, I start the shop the
Speaker 1: other day. He ain't take no picture. He too good, bro,
Speaker 1: I just took a thousand Yeah, I sign a thousand
Speaker 1: dollars bro right, Oh man, man, man, I don't mess
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: Then that he thinks he better.
Speaker 1: Bro, you can't please never, you can't. You can now,
Speaker 1: it's impossible. It's impossible once you realize that, no matter
Speaker 1: what you do. Let's just say I had thirty billion dollars.
Speaker 4: I give you will you will if you talk to Kim,
Speaker 4: But go ahead, I give.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, O Joe
Speaker 1: and I gave. I gave an institution five million. Right,
Speaker 1: he only gave him five million. He worked thirty billions,
Speaker 1: rountw you count my pockets. But you see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: don't you. It's not the fact that I gave, it's
Speaker 1: that you didn't give enough enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, do all this.
Speaker 4: It's always been like that though always it is always.
Speaker 4: It's never satisfying to the people. That's not even given.
Speaker 4: It's never enough to people, not even given.
Speaker 1: So I've learned, Hey, I'm gonna live my life. I
Speaker 1: can't please everybody. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the
Speaker 1: best person I possibly can. And that's all I got
Speaker 1: for you. So I'm not I'm not perfect. I don't
Speaker 1: try to be perfect. I've made mistakes, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: some more. I'm gonna make some more. People make mistakes,
Speaker 1: and I'm a firm believer the best. You know, the
Speaker 1: best apology for a mistake is changed behavior.
Speaker 4: Behavior. That's a good one. I'm glad. I'm glad you
Speaker 4: said that. I'm glad you said that. Now I know
Speaker 4: you want to go because I know you you got
Speaker 4: you got first take tomorrow.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm sleeping in. I'm sleeping there tomorrow. Right. Good.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you see me. We finna stay in on.
Speaker 2: The best.
Speaker 4: The best apology is change behavior. You understand hum you
Speaker 4: understand human nature in general?
Speaker 2: I understand human behavior.
Speaker 4: I do you understand? And you understand that human error
Speaker 4: is inevitable?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Right? So I'm asking you, as a father, as a man,
Speaker 4: how do you find that happy medium and always riding
Speaker 4: the fine line of being on the always on the
Speaker 4: end of right instead of wrong?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Oh choe, I really just try to like set my
Speaker 1: ego aside. Yeah, and can see myself as that person
Speaker 1: but your own. You can only do it if you
Speaker 1: set your ego aside right and pride. I can see
Speaker 1: being coming from where I came from. Foutain square club
Speaker 1: send the block home cement floors in the roof. People
Speaker 1: only see this aspect.
Speaker 2: Of Shannon, right.
Speaker 4: They don't see end product, yes.
Speaker 1: But they didn't see the no indoor plumbing. They didn't
Speaker 1: see that. They didn't see having it in the eighties.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about nineteen thirties, forties and fifties. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the eighties. Shannon was going to the wood
Speaker 1: to relieve himself. So you didn't see that. You didn't
Speaker 1: see Shannon drawing well water, you didn't see that. See
Speaker 1: all you see is this.
Speaker 2: So I can emphathize for somebody that doesn't have this
Speaker 2: now because I didn't. I had that before.
Speaker 1: So I divorced this Shannon because I remember that Shannon,
Speaker 1: and I realized that there are people that are less fortunate.
Speaker 2: I'm thankful that I have medical.
Speaker 1: Care and I'm able to get screened, and I'm able
Speaker 1: to provide for my family. But I used to think
Speaker 1: the same thing. I did it, why can't you? And
Speaker 1: then one night, one night, I just had a vision
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself. I was sitting on my bed,
Speaker 1: I said, because everybody didn't have me reporter, everybody didn't
Speaker 1: have a sterling shark.
Speaker 2: Everybody didn't have a share of shark.
Speaker 1: So God put things in my life that maybe somebody
Speaker 1: else has something else, but they didn't have fact right.
Speaker 2: So once I realized that it was easy for me.
Speaker 2: It's like I never said, oh they couldn't. No, you
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: You never unless when people say, oh yo, you know
Speaker 1: to saying that walk them out of somebody's shoes. And
Speaker 1: if you remember my Hall of Fame speech, I said,
Speaker 1: if you walked them out of my shoes, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: do me justice. You need to spend twenty years in
Speaker 1: my life to feel what I felt, to eat what
Speaker 1: I ate, to live how I lived, because that one
Speaker 1: mile that you been in my shoes might have been
Speaker 1: the best day of my life.
Speaker 2: And see now you got a falsees or what it
Speaker 2: was like to be shut a drop for twenty years.
Speaker 4: Woo, come on, preachers.
Speaker 1: So it's so easy for me to divorce myself, my
Speaker 1: ego and empathize with somebody else. I've never been a
Speaker 1: selfish player. I've always been a team player. I'll take
Speaker 1: a hit for the team. I'm cool with that. I
Speaker 1: want to see everybody succeed my teammates that I think
Speaker 1: people and people like you need to ask my teammates
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about it, and I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about the famous ones. That's got to say the right
Speaker 1: thing because if they don't, it might get out. Ask
Speaker 1: the ones that's not and ask them how it was
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Go back to Glennville High, go
Speaker 1: to Savannah State, go to Denver, go to Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Ask them.
Speaker 1: Ask the people at FS one from the I could
Speaker 1: floor down what Shannon Shark was like. Ask the security
Speaker 1: when you go to the front guard gate, ask him
Speaker 1: what Shannon was like. When you go to when you
Speaker 1: go to the restaurant mods and where they got breakfast?
Speaker 1: Ask them, Ask him in the makeup room, ask him
Speaker 1: in the wardrobe room right, and then go to Denver
Speaker 1: and ask the equipment guy. Ask the people at the
Speaker 1: front as the videographers. Ask the people in the training
Speaker 1: staff it's him. Ask Mike, what the what the hell
Speaker 1: you expect them to save? Ask John, expect them to save.
Speaker 4: Right right right right?
Speaker 2: Go ask the people ask stephen A. Ask the people
Speaker 2: at the front what's he like. I know it's only
Speaker 2: been a month.
Speaker 1: Or two, but ask him. Go the whole foods, go
Speaker 1: to target ask those people.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. That's I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: just who I am. You know. I don't put on
Speaker 2: no fraud. I don't try to be something that I'm
Speaker 2: not who I'm who I am.
Speaker 4: I think that's why we get it get along so well.
Speaker 4: I think that's why we get along so well. Everybody
Speaker 4: will talk about, oh, y'all got such great chemistry, Oh y'all, y'all,
Speaker 4: y'all meshed well together. But I think what makes it
Speaker 4: so easy because we're just being truly organically and authentically ourselves.
Speaker 4: So it just it just it just flows naturally. People
Speaker 4: have watched the show and said, God, damn well, y'all
Speaker 4: great together? How long y'all been doing this? But ship
Speaker 4: we didn't even got no goddamn script. This is we
Speaker 4: ain't got no script. But it goes so well and
Speaker 4: everywhere everywhere I'm going, oh my goodness, I'm in Vegas people,
Speaker 4: hey the show man, but you and sharing them and
Speaker 4: it's great. How long y'all been practicing? Practicing? What he
Speaker 4: says off the ridd and what you're saying is right,
Speaker 4: is off the cuff. It's just it's just natural, and it's.
Speaker 2: Just I think the thing for you is that you
Speaker 2: knew me.
Speaker 1: We had a little little conversation, a little dealings with
Speaker 1: each other, but not that much, right, And when I
Speaker 1: sought across from you in the restaurant, I said, look,
Speaker 1: I'm picking you because I think you can do it.
Speaker 1: I think we can do it. I think we can
Speaker 1: do great TV And I said, all I want you.
Speaker 1: I want to put you in a situation where you
Speaker 1: can grow. Now what you do with what you do
Speaker 1: with the seeds that I give you, whether you choose
Speaker 1: to plant them, whether you choose the water them, whether
Speaker 1: you choose to fertilize them, that's on you. But I
Speaker 1: am going to give you the seeds to grow whatever
Speaker 1: you want to grow. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's it. So you will never say, ah, man that
Speaker 1: he ain't help me. He could have gave me a chance.
Speaker 1: That's all I can do. And have a level of respect.
Speaker 1: I respect what you did, I respect how you did it.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you know that
Speaker 1: I sincerely want the best for you. This is not transaction,
Speaker 1: you know, I sincerely want you to succeed. I want
Speaker 1: you to be the best you can possibly be. Because
Speaker 1: I think you deserve this opportunity. I think you've earned
Speaker 1: this opportunity, and not only but to grow. Each show you.
Speaker 2: Get better and better, You get better and better.
Speaker 1: And eventually we're gonna climb and we're not gonna be
Speaker 1: number nine, We're gonna be number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's what it's about for me, Scott, to give
Speaker 1: other people opportunities.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna give you the opportunity.
Speaker 1: What you do with it, because a lot of times
Speaker 1: you get people opportunity, they say when you when you,
Speaker 1: when you give someone up with opportunity knocks, a grumbler
Speaker 1: complains about the noise.
Speaker 2: I like that, give you the opportunity. Listen.
Speaker 4: But you know what I did with it. I then
Speaker 4: plant them my seeds. I threw a little vagger in
Speaker 4: that so could grow a little faster.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're laughing.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm in my element. I'm in my elementor talking sports,
Speaker 4: talking life. Turn the cameras on and I'm ready. I'm going.
Speaker 4: I said, listen, you you tried to get off thirty
Speaker 4: minutes ago. You notice I'm still sitting talking.
Speaker 2: But I know you are.
Speaker 1: But I'm about to get off here right now though,
Speaker 1: Thank you watching another episode of night Cap out of
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I made my loan. Goddamn jacket. I'm all
Speaker 4: one on one.
Speaker 2: Were you at the Liberty City Hall of Fame? That's
Speaker 2: good blessing, good night, every Wow catch out