1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's up? Brother? 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Oh? You know, just waking up? How are you doing? 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: I am living my life, chasing the dream? What's going on? 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Call? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: Or how how can I get you today? What's going on? 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh? Man? I guess I don't really have anything particular, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: but I just love your act and saw that you 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: were looking for callers and thought i'd chime in. I've 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: been going through a lot of life changes recently, and 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess I thought i'd be happy 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: to share them, both to kind of reflect on them 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: and also to just share my story. 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: Sure, hit me, what's uh? What's been changing? What have 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: been the strange changes? This David Bowie reference was continue, 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: go ahead all you. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I've had kind of an eclectic life for sure, 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: but most recently I've been getting out of a marriage 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: of eleven years and ultimately definitely for the best. But 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: you know, just learning how to reintegrate into a life, 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: and you know, come to realize how easy it is 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: to lose yourself in a relationship, and sometimes it seems 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: like maybe it's easiest to do so when the relationships 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: are not healthy. 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Tell me more. 25 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I very much love my wife, 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: and probably didn't love myself enough. You know, I was 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 2: depressed my entire life, and she really made an effort 28 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: to show me her love and I think maybe kind 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: of wanted to rescue me for myself, and I was 30 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: very deeply appreciative of that. And the relationship was marked 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: by there's just so many times of her getting so 32 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: much energy to try and yeah, helped me and support me. 33 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: And you know, there's certainly windows that I was able 34 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: to reciprocate that. But you know, depression and is a 35 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: hell of a drug, and I, yeah, certainly was unable 36 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: to give her what she needed. So slowly over the years, 37 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: I drained her bucket of love until there was nothing left. 38 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: But yeah, ultimately she got to a place where it 39 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: didn't work for her, and I tried everything I could 40 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: to fix it. But you know, so often by the 41 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: time that somebody draw the line in the sand, it's 42 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: already too far gone. So no matter what I did there, 43 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: there was really no saying that. 44 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: So it was a matter of like you were to 45 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: you were feeling depressed, and she was always kind of 46 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: like giving you her energy, and after like eleven years, 47 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: she couldn't do it anymore. 48 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but yeah, you know, I certainly respect her decision. 49 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: It was a very difficult thing to come to accept. 50 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: And the first couple of months after that, uh you know, 51 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: news was dropped. I really struggled with suicide and had 52 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: to leave the state and ended up going down to 53 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Texas and spent a couple of months with my brother, 54 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: who was, you know, incredibly helpful to give me a 55 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: place to go, and ended up doing a bit of therapy. 56 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: And you know, I've done therapy in my entire life. 57 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: I've certainly never been afraid of it, but I never 58 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: found talk therapy to be you know, the answer for me. 59 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: So I ended up doing t MS, which you know, 60 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: for those that know, is transcreaning a magnetic stimulation, and 61 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: it was a game changer. It's completely yeah, opened doors 62 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: that always are close to me. And now I am 63 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: a completely different person after those two months. 64 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: M hm. 65 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: In what way do you think like you're a completely 66 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: different person? 67 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: Oh? You know, I just finally feel like what I 68 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: imagine the people around me. 69 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: Have felt. 70 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah, yeah. 71 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: The ability to USh your teeth or get up and 72 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: go to a job, or remember what people are talking 73 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: about or yeah, so yeah, I find it to be 74 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: a very profound treatment and certainly recommend it to anyone 75 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: who has treatment resistant depression or has really struggled to 76 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: find a solution to fair mental health issues. 77 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it feels when you first find some 78 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: of the works for you in the uh in in 79 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: that way is exactly described. It's like you finally feel 80 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: the way that you think most people feel, you know, 81 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: do you but I don't know that? Like, do you 82 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: feel like it was like a lasting thing for you? 83 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 84 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. 85 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Do you know there was like some relapsing for sure, 86 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: Like after the first week I was on Clad nine 87 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: and then you know, back in the you know ditch 88 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: and just had to continue going back and doing the 89 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: work and then you know, augmenting it with a lot 90 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: of meditation and dietary changes and psych meds and you know, 91 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: lifestyle changes and but ultimately, you know, it was definitely 92 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: a catalyst that I had never experienced before, and then 93 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: it made all the rest so much more effective, Right, 94 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: Like I had these twenty years of therapy under my belt, 95 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: but none of those coping mechanisms ever really did anything 96 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: because the depression was just so overwhelming, so I could 97 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: tell myself all day like, oh no, it's fine, like 98 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: tomorrow will be a better day, or you know, I'm catastrophizing, 99 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: or you know, that up the way it actually is, 100 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: and it's just so hard to actually believe those things 101 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: or you know, have them change the way you feel 102 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: when it's there's such a strong biological precursor, and that's 103 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: just not the case anymore now. Like when I you know, 104 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: I have passive self talk, my body listens and it's amazing. 105 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: Nice man, hm hmmm. So what did you do you 106 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: and yours have kids together? 107 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: No? No, no, thankfully, we always were disinterested in children. 108 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: And you know, we have a little dog together who 109 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: is like our child. And you know, my ex wife 110 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: is amazing and we have continued to you know, be 111 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: civil and kind and carrying to each other, and she 112 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: has continued to let me spend time with the dog. 113 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: Right now, he's cut up up next to me at 114 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: a friend's house. But yeah, no children. We did have 115 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: a house together, which we're currently in the process of, uh, 116 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, figuring out how to exit from. But yeah, no, 117 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: I think which'spofully been significantly more painful and messier with 118 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: a child but I think that goes with the territory. 119 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: What is your plan for life moving forward? 120 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So a part of the dynamic of the marriage 121 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: was that growing up, like I said, I kind of 122 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: had an eclectical life. Like I grew up with this 123 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: group of guys who would like live out of the 124 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: climbing gym and go on adventure races, and like I said, 125 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: twelve year old, I would be going along with them 126 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: as their support crew and you know, like making them 127 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: food or getting their bikes ready for the next leg 128 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: of the race. So I grew up with this idea 129 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: of like that being the normal and what I wanted 130 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: to with, you know, not a nine to five, go 131 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: home to your white ticket fans American dream life and 132 00:08:53,960 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: more of like a nomadic, you know, scrappyer lifestyle. And 133 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: once I met my wife, that all became very domestic. 134 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: You know. She wanted that and I wanted to be 135 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: with her. So we did have this you know very 136 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: much that like working you're nine to five to pay 137 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: for your house to you know, go weekend warrior and 138 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 2: go on vacations a couple of times a year. And 139 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: I think that was part of my depression, is that 140 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: you know, I was kind of living this lie in 141 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: order to be with her, and I was just caught 142 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: between like those two desires, and you know, like that's 143 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: what I guess I was talking about of like not 144 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: loving myself right, Like I was never willing to leave 145 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: the relationship, even though there are things that it wasn't 146 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: fulfilling me, because I was so much more focused on 147 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: making her happy and showing her my appreciation for the 148 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: support she gave me, rather than really facing like, well, 149 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: is this what I want out of my life life? 150 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: And is this, you know, fair to me? 151 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: So how long were you the entirety of the relationship, 152 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: the whole eleven years were you? Were you living this 153 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: domestic life? 154 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially. I mean we didn't get our house until 155 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: the last four years, But you know, it was not dissimilar. 156 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: You know, maybe a little less stress because we were renting, 157 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: and certainly in the beginning hit our relationship it was 158 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: a lot more youthful and filled with drugs and parties 159 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: and but yeah, I mean the last four years for 160 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: sure was much more just kind of your typical prescribed life. 161 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I have now very much pursued that 162 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: alternative voice style, and I very happily out of a 163 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: car and I continue to work, but now you know, 164 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: I can put that money towards what I'm interested in 165 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: rather than mortgage that you know, is just making me 166 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: house poor. And yeah, building out another vehicle to be 167 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: a longer term residence. And it's just lovely. Like every 168 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: night I get a different view and explore around the 169 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: state a lot, and I'm constantly out, so I'm just 170 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: routinely getting to meet people and have new experiences. And 171 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: you know, that's something that for me was always quite 172 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: the obstacle is once I started having a place to 173 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: be at home, I became a home body and I 174 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: would never really feel comfortable going out because the change 175 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: from out to in and into out wash you know, 176 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: dramatic for me. So not having an option puts me 177 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: in this place where I would just constantly get to 178 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: challenge myself and have new experiences and yeah, it's been amazing. 179 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 180 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: Man. 181 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: Do you do you share the van with anyone or 182 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: are you just like full are you full on nomadic? 183 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, no, just just myself and uh yeah, I 184 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: mean it's like locally nomadic. I you know, reside in 185 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: the same city that we were married in and yeah, 186 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: it's wonderful because I have all of these friends to 187 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: spend time with and all these places to you know 188 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: that I know like the back of my hand, so 189 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: I can always like easily find good place is to 190 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: spend nights and have waiss to go. And but yeah, 191 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: that's you know, I don't have a van because I 192 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: wanted to remain very stealthy and I feel like there's 193 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: a uh like clear stigma as soon as you see 194 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: somebody roll up in their spinner van. So yeah, just 195 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: right now, working out of the car and I've got 196 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: to fold out bed when I fold down the seats, 197 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: and yeah, like nobody gots my Yeah, I mean that's 198 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: that's about it, you know, within within that lifestyle and 199 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: uh then playing on, you know, in the winter going 200 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: back down to Texas and spending time with my brother 201 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: and then in the spring summer and fall going back 202 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: north because text summers are brutal and I have no 203 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: ability to handle heat like that. But yeah, just have 204 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: been exploring and enjoying the process of rediscovering myself and yeah, 205 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: learning what makes me tick and what I want from life. 206 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's been really fun. And now the looksperience and. 207 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: Would you say you're happier now since the divorce. 208 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: Oh so much, so much happier. Yeah, I mean, you know, 209 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: it was very rockier getting here, right But I mean, 210 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: I think that it's always the case that right like, 211 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: it's not meant to be, it won't. And the harder 212 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: you try to keep a relationship that shouldn't exist alive, 213 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: the more miserable both parties are. And I think that 214 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: that was ultimately our biggest strength in a relationship is 215 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: that we were both people that dearly wanted to maintain 216 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: our relationship, right Like. There was a lot of things 217 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: that we did do well and that we were happy about, 218 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: but then there were a lot of things we weren't. 219 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: And ultimately that skill of constantly resuscitating our connection, you know, 220 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: kept things alive that long. But you know, earnestly, we 221 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: probably should have cut things off after the first couple 222 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: of years, when you know, she realized that I was 223 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: a risk taker and an instigator and a you know, 224 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: wild child, and I realized that she was, you know, 225 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: super sensitive to people's opinions of her and you know, 226 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: much less interested and like doing the you know, atypical 227 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: things that I wanted to do, like you know, go 228 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: dumpster diving, or go uh you know, sleep in a 229 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: tree for the night and or you know, go talk 230 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: with strangers and acting about their biggest fears. So yeah, 231 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: you know, I definitely reflection for me about that. 232 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Well, you definitely I'm curious about this though, like, yeah, 233 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: was there no room for you to be that in 234 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: that relationship? You know, did she have to join did you? 235 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Did you necessarily need her to join you for all 236 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: those aspects? 237 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: No, not at all, and I that's that's what the 238 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: relationship was, was that we both lived our separate lives. 239 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: You know, I did those things, I tried to include 240 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: her in them, and she was very uncomfortable. Right, So 241 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: then I learned that uh you know it, Yeah, it 242 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: just wasn't something she enjoyed and it didn't really seem 243 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: like she wanted to try. And I accepted that, right 244 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: because I loved her and I was appreciative for her. 245 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, that's fine, like you you 246 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: don't have to and I will find other people to 247 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: fulfill that part of my life. And yeah, I mean 248 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: that part you know ultimately like worked well enough. The 249 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: issue I think was that we since we were so 250 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: okay with like, Okay, that's not gonna work for you, 251 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: Like that's fine, Like you can just do you and 252 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: I'll do me. That you know, we ended up getting 253 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: to this place where we really weren't spending that much, 254 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, time with each other outside of like very 255 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: prescribed relationship things like we're having dinner together, we're you know, 256 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: unwinding at the end of the night, like playing a 257 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: game together, like watching TV or going to a family 258 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: get together. But you know, in terms of our passions, 259 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: we yeah, I didn't really have much crossover. And you know, 260 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: now it's not the case because I'm in such a 261 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: different place in my life, but at the time, right, 262 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: I was very depressed. So one of her greatest joys 263 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: was to just go sit with friends and talk for 264 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: hours on end. And you know, with deep social anxiety 265 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: and depression, I was really interested or able to talk 266 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: at length with you know, strangers to me. So you know, 267 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't able to give that to her. And yeah, 268 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: then she wasn't really interested in doing the more like 269 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: outside adventurous things I was interested in. So yeah, it 270 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: just became a very at home relationship and then you know, 271 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: like occasionally we would have these wonderful trips, and anytime 272 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: we left our state and like went to a different place, 273 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: it was a you know, different relationship because we were 274 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: both outside of our comfort zone. So she was much 275 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: more open to doing things that she wasn't comfortable with 276 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 2: because she was already doing something she wasn't comfortable with 277 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: by traveling. And I was happier because you know, oftentimes 278 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: removing yourself from your environment can help you escape your 279 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: depression at least for a little bit. 280 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: M hm hm. 281 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: Hm hmm. Interesting Caska cask cold. You were thirty five, 282 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: nice man. Do you see yourself ever getting back into 283 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: another relationship or do you feel like the single life 284 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: is the life for you? 285 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: This? 286 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: No, I exist, Yeah, no, I I definitely look to 287 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: you know, I there were so many wonderful things, Like 288 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: she was definitely the best thing that had ever happened 289 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: to me in my life. 290 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: It just wasn't the answer, right, Like, I learned so 291 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: much and she gave me so much, and you know, 292 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: I also did my best to give her everything I could. So, yeah, 293 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: we had a lot of wonderful experiences and I still 294 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: love her, love her dearly. I'm just you know, not 295 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: probably at this point, you know, as in love with 296 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: her as I convinced myself I should be. And I 297 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: know she certainly has moved on seeing other people, and 298 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled for her. I want her to find the 299 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: person that is right for her, and I want to 300 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: find the person that's right for me. And you know, 301 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: I've gone on some dates, and you know, I've now 302 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 2: really started to see like, oh wow, like this is 303 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: what it's like when you're with somebody that's more compatible, right, 304 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: and that matches those aspects of yourself that are core 305 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: to what you want out of your life. 306 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 3: Hmm. 307 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so the days that sound like they've been 308 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: going good. 309 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's really been all flowers. 310 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: Cool. 311 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: Wow. Interesting. All right, So you're going out on dates 312 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: with girls, and I assume the I assume the fact 313 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: that you live in your car is coming up intentionally 314 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: very early in the dates, because it's a good litmus test. 315 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so the dates most of them were before 316 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: you know, I was like going on dates then in 317 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: Texas and I was like finishing my therapy to try 318 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: and like reintegrate into the world. And yeah, now that 319 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: is a process I am navigating. So I've only gone 320 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: on one date, just a couple of days ago, and 321 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: I thought that that was a bit of a bomb 322 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: to drop on a first date. But then this lovely 323 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: person that was warning to spend some time with me 324 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: informed me on the date that she had spent I believe, 325 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: a couple of years living in her car. So yeah, 326 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: the next date with I'm going to be broaching that 327 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: topic and hopefully it goes well. 328 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: I feel like, but that's the thing, right, It is 329 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: like the person who you got to bring it up 330 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: early because then if they're into it there, you know, 331 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: then that because if they're into it, that's full speed ahead. 332 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, you got to get that out of the way. 333 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm always very inclined to be an open 334 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: book and not I'll kusekate or deceive, you know. It's 335 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: just there's a time and a place, and I feel 336 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: like before I even know your name or you're like, 337 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: how many family members you have? If you you know? 338 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: But yeah, so definitely seen coming. But yeah they all 339 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: wish we walk awhile. 340 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Dode. What's your name again? 341 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: My name Zach, Zach, Zach. 342 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: You actually see Zach you. I have to say, among 343 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: people living in their car, you are probably in the 344 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: top percent. You are in the highest percentile of people 345 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: living in their car that I could have a twenty 346 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: three minute conversation with and walk away from that conversation going, 347 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: I think that guy seems like he's really enjoying his life. 348 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: I mean that, Yeah, thank you. Yeah, and yeah, as 349 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: do I. You know, It's it's not something I would do, 350 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: Like I could easily get in a place again, and 351 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, I've lived that life, and yeah, I just 352 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't get much value having a place to return 353 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: to and like I'm a minimalist, so like I have 354 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: no need for a place to like have choch keys 355 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: or art. So you know, it's like I go to 356 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: the gym for you know, shower and you know, like 357 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: whatever else and you know, laundromats, and like, I have 358 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: no problem with this modular lifestyle because the things that 359 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: I want out of lifeer outside of the home. 360 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing your story, Zach, I appreciate it. Is 361 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 362 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go. 363 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I mean absolutely, you know. The core reason 364 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 2: that I called is just whatever listeners are out there, 365 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: and I was certainly one that is struggling with their 366 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: mental health and feeling like there is no answer. I 367 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: know it's cliche, and I was always pissed off to 368 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: hear it when I was in that state, but like, 369 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: there really is help out there, and it may not 370 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: be talk therapy, it may not be psych meds uh, 371 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: you know, it may not be what you're being told, 372 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: but continue to look, continue to yeah, try and find 373 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: that answer because there is one, and don't like give up, 374 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: don't give in to that like temptation that like I'm unsavable, 375 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: there's nothing that can be done for me. Because once 376 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: you find that answer, like life is such a beautiful 377 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: thing and it's Yeah, it's definitely worth trying to find 378 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: a solution because mental like poor mental health is a 379 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: miserable crucible and you know, getting through it is a 380 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: path well worth walking. 381 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for calling, Zach. I appreciate you. 382 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Las, take care man. 383 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: Truly a guy, a guy who getting divorced and moving 384 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: into his car seemed seems like it has been a 385 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: great life decision for him. I mean that sincerely. I'm 386 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: glad to hear that our Boys Act is happier now, 387 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: glad to hear his living the nomadic dream that is 388 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: his dream. And what else? Do I have anything else 389 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: to say? 390 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't to accept Press one to send a voicemail. 391 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Pressed hello, Hello, Hey, what's up man? What's your name? 392 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 5: My name is Sebastian. 393 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: How are you doing today, Sebastian. I'm doing good today. 394 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: Man. 395 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: It's a lovely morning. The sun is shining. 396 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: I have quite early Actually, yeah, I had. 397 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: A This is like, I know, there's a lot of 398 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: people who listen to this podcast that have some form 399 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: of mental health issue, and I want, I do want 400 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: to say something people make fun of, uh, you know, 401 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson. 402 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: Not really, I'll for and people make fun of. 403 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson for the whole thing where he's like, clean 404 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: your room, bro. It's kind of it's kind of it's 405 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of really true. I last night I was I 406 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: was like I think, I thought. I was like I think, 407 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: I think this is it for me. And then I 408 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: just cleaned and then and then in the morning I 409 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: woke up, I cleaned my room. I got rid of 410 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: all the fucking trash, picked up all the clothes, took 411 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: the you know it did the laundry, hung up the laundry, 412 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: It's cleaned everything. I like looked around and I was like, oh, 413 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: this is I feel like I can do anything. I 414 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: feel like I'm gonna live forever. I feel like life 415 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: has meaning. I feel like I have limitless potential. All 416 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: you have to do is clean your I mean it's 417 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: not it's totally super all you have to do, but 418 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: if your room isn't clean, start there. I'm just that's 419 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: I just just having come immediately from feeling like, yeah, well, 420 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: just having immediately come from like oh god that I 421 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: feel like there's no hope for my existence to oh wait, yeah, 422 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: you know the whole it's so over to we're so 423 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: back pipeline. Yeah no, I train never felt that harder 424 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: than just cleaning my room. So anyway, that's enough about me. 425 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you an actual answer when you 426 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: asked how I was doing. How are you? What's going on? 427 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 428 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: Pretty good. I'm currently in Dallas, Texas. How to go 429 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: to work at a volleyball tournament? 430 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: What do you do for the volleyball tournament? 431 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: Traveling photography? We take pictures of the teams and try 432 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 5: to sell them to the parents later. 433 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh, Okay, that's pretty cool. 434 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of like relax, what real last day, we 435 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: already did all the work, just up super early. 436 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go to work I could do. Do 437 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: you sell the parents like keychain options, We'll give it. 438 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: Give me the most expensive package. 439 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 5: Like forty bucks for a poster. 440 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: Pretty much. It's a eight by twenty four. 441 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: You're not doing like Big Carpets or Nike. 442 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 5: Just a eight twenty four poster. 443 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: No keychains, flash drives. 444 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: No, nothing like that. 445 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 446 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 5: I was hoping actually to talk about how my ex 447 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: stole my cat actually or something along those lines. 448 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, yeah, we could talk about that. What happened? Man? 449 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: Okay, so uh so roughly my job as a traveling photographer. 450 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: I went to California recently, maybe about three weeks ago, 451 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: and I was on a trip with like a newer guy. 452 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 5: I didn't kind of like them at first, because like, 453 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's annoying, trying to pick fights 454 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 5: with people, saying dumb shit. So I kind of didn't 455 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 5: like him at first, but me and him got sitting 456 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: on a site together because no one else wanted to 457 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 5: work with him. I was working with him and had 458 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: a girlfriend thinking for me pretty much, and no phone 459 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 5: call da da da da da. I call her off 460 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 5: of his phone and he has her saved in his phone. 461 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 5: I'm like, what this kind of go through your phone? 462 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 5: He says, I would go fuck bro. And I see 463 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 5: like apparently they matched it on Tinder and all the 464 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: stuff like that. So I call her and confront her 465 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 5: about this, and she says, I don't know anything. 466 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. 467 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: Can't we just be adults and like talk about this 468 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: when you get back to Louisiana. It's like a point 469 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 5: four hour drive at that point, Like all my shit 470 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: is at my mom's house, all. 471 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: My stuff is backed in my vehicle. Uh yeah, you 472 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: can only imagine, yeah, and. 473 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: Wait for the reason the fact that what your girlfriend 474 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: was cheating on you with, like one of boys at. 475 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: Work, she did she matched with him on Tinder. I 476 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 5: don't think it went anything past like text conversations, you 477 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 5: know what I mean? 478 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Did you was just like, is this guy like your boy? 479 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Is it just someone you work with? 480 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: It was some random guy I met maybe twice three times? 481 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you didn't even know that, you know. 482 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: What I mean? Yeah, exactly, exactly. I wasn't really any 483 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: fault on his but he but he was being like 484 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: the cool bro being like, dude, go through my phone, 485 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 5: don't give two. 486 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean? 487 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: Whoa damn? Did she still your. 488 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: Well? 489 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 5: So we got the cat kind of together. We both 490 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 5: were working at Low's. I was the receivings clerk at 491 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 5: Low's and she was mst which is kind of like 492 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 5: the people will build shelves. Mmm okay, yeah, and they 493 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: found a random cat at Low's. The cat's name is 494 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 5: their foliage supervides her outside lawn and garden because we 495 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: found him outside on a garden. 496 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: Where's he now? 497 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: At her house? 498 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 5: Like she has them? She says, if I went once 499 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 5: I get my own place, she might give it back. 500 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, wait, so what's so where where? Okay, So 501 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: you're in Dallas, she's in Houston. No, I we live. 502 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 5: I live in Louisiana, yes, third uh, but I travel 503 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 5: around for work a lot. She lived in, like I 504 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 5: just stated, in part of the town and live with 505 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: my mother at the moment because like you know, kicked 506 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 5: out life. 507 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: Damn man, I'm sorry to hear that. Ship. 508 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but I'm traveling every week, so it's a 509 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 5: different place every like traveling wizard style. 510 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 511 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: I'm going to like w w the Rave and I 512 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: have like a bunch of decorated clothes and with my 513 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: Instagram on the back, and I'm gonna go hand them 514 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: out and like go act like a wizard and we 515 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: have a great time in a couple of weeks. 516 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not okay, just I'm not worried about you 517 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: at all. You sound like you sound like life will 518 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: continue to find you each time you are you're braved 519 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: of some element of it. 520 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is this going like on the thing? 521 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably, yeah, yes, yes, it is going on the thing. 522 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: Can I give them a shout out to my Instagram? 523 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 524 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 3: Sure? 525 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: Wait, hold on real before you do. What is the Instagram? Like, 526 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: what is it? Is it like a wizard Instagram? 527 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm transferring it to that? 528 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: Actually, I like, like yes, like that is my plan 529 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 5: to when I go. But when I go to the 530 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 5: Rave in a couple a month weeks, it's like on 531 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 5: the twenty fourth or the twenty fifth, I want to 532 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 5: transfer it to like being entirely ward theemed. 533 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Okay, like listen, listen, I listen just real quick. This 534 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: episode comes. I'm recording this like an hour before it 535 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: goes and then, so I just want to know if 536 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: people listen to this, what are they going to find? 537 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: Right now? 538 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: Right now? You're gonna be funboxing? Oh, I know, I 539 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: have a video already. 540 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: I have an unboxing video of like a compass that 541 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 5: like helps you find your rave homies. And I'm like 542 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 5: completely like wizard themed and stuff like that, and all 543 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 5: dressed up as my Beatbox Wizard. I'm an ambassador for 544 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: Beatbox Beverages as well as Forever Flow, which is like 545 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 5: a flow star, like a flow toys. 546 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: I sin on like a finger dude. 547 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: Who are you? 548 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 549 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 5: I know, like I've been trying to get on this 550 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 5: thing NonStop. You have no idea. 551 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: No, you're the exact kind of person. No, you're exactly. 552 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Uh you're you're strongly in a demographic of who I 553 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: imagine watches a Talking Lizard podcast for sure. 554 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: Oh, most definitely. 555 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: My Instagram is. 556 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: At sign b A S S capital F capital f. 557 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: L O W go I do it one more time? 558 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: Uh based b A S S F F below s 559 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: l O w b A s F F f l 560 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: O W base love. 561 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be all right, man, what's up with 562 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: your girlfriend? 563 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: Is she? Like? 564 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: Do you It sounds like you've you've already moved on. 565 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: You're already you're a wizard now. 566 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 5: You're I get what you mean, Like I just hope, 567 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 5: like I don't know. We both had our problems in 568 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 5: their relationship, and I completely understand, like if you get 569 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 5: what I mean, we will had our faults. We can't 570 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 5: like fault each other for it. We both had our 571 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 5: anger issues or disattachment or lies or whatever. I kind 572 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 5: of understand it, and I get it. But I think 573 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 5: she could have did in a better way of kicking 574 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 5: me out, because I like, you know what I mean, 575 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 5: I know what you mean, been more communicative and not like, oh, 576 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 5: I got to deal with the twenty four hour drive 577 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 5: home of not knowing what's going on and realizing all 578 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: my shit's actually like every like everywhere, and having to 579 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 5: deal with like two hours of trying to figure out 580 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 5: what's going on with my life and moving into storage units. 581 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: So so okay, so you guys were living together. Okay, 582 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: So you're in Dallas for work right now? 583 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: Correct? 584 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? 585 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 5: Jet Dallas for work? 586 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: Uh? 587 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: And Louisiana is where I say, okay. 588 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: And So in Louisiana, whose house is it? 589 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: It was her house. 590 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: Her mother committed suicide like two or three years ago, 591 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 5: and uh yeah, and she blames it on her grandparents because, 592 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 5: uh her mother was like had tried to commit a. 593 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: Suicide attempt before. 594 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 5: And before when she tried to commit the uh, it 595 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 5: was like that, and she took a bunch of veryous 596 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 5: like medication and she kind of like odied and she 597 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 5: blames it her grandparents on it because she gave it to. 598 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: What. 599 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so is that how you got the house? 600 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 5: Oh? 601 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 3: That was how she got her house. That's where And 602 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: I live with my mom on the other side of town. 603 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, if that makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. 604 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: Like she got that, she got. 605 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 5: Her house from like her mother who passed away recently, 606 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: and I went moved in with her like maybe two 607 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 5: years ago, and it was like the relationship. 608 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: Like so where you get Where are you going to go? 609 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: Now? 610 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get my own place. U trying to 611 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 5: save up money with while working this crazy job. 612 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: Little ship man. I hope I hope you. I hope 613 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: you get I hope I hope you have a good 614 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: time as a wizard. 615 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: I really do too. I gotta go do photography stuff. 616 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 5: I hope you have an amazing day as a wizard, 617 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 5: as a lizard, and I will be in the live 618 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 5: stream listening. 619 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: All right, man, you take care. 620 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 5: You came out. 621 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: I think that guy was on acid. There's no live 622 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: stream right now, that's happening. This is offline. That was 623 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: an interesting guy. Yeah, that was an interesting guy. He's 624 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: got he's got, he's got, he's got an interesting life. 625 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: But he that's the kind of guy that will always 626 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: figure something out to keep moving forward. That's not a 627 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: guy who lives in the past. That's a guy who 628 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: puts on his wizard suit and goes out into the 629 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: great beyond when things get dark. Hello, how's it going. 630 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: It's pretty late, it's. 631 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: Going pretty chill with me. I'm in I am in 632 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: a different country right now, so it is yeah, it's 633 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in Japan. I'm in Japan. 634 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 635 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: It's currently six pm. And where are you? Where are you? 636 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: I'm in North Las Vegas. So it's kind at three am. 637 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: Interesting. So if you look outside, it's night, and if 638 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: I look outside, it's it's evening. It's evening. 639 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: The Golden all. 640 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. It's been pretty rainy here and 641 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: cold and the this is kind of the first day 642 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: in a while that there's been a lot of sunshine 643 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: and sun and it's been and you can walk around 644 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: with j a T shirt and not sweatshirt or a coat. Yeah. Yeah, 645 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: it feels really nice. 646 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: It. 647 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: Like, dude, there's just this thing. It's like a cyclical. 648 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: Thing. 649 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: I think everyone everyone gets a little bit of seasonal 650 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: depression and whatnot. But dude, when you feel like a 651 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: phoenix rising from the ashes that first day of beautiful sunshine, 652 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: You're like, Wow, it's all it's all gonna be okay. 653 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 3: You know, I totally kill the dinging. You see the 654 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 3: trees in the and the leads and you're like, damn, 655 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 3: life is not as bad as a dot. 656 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: Totally totally. You're like, oh, you can do it. You 657 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: can be a part of the universe. You can do it. 658 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you try, especially if you see a rainbow. 659 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 3: Did you see one? 660 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: No? 661 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: I didn't see a rainbow. I've said that I've been seeing. 662 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: They have the sakura flowers here, These like the cherry blossoms. 663 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: What are they called, They're called the cherry the cherry 664 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: blossoms they call them here and a Fortnite skin? Is 665 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: it really Sakura? 666 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? There's one there. 667 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: Is it was it? Look what color is it? What 668 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: to look like? 669 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: I think it's a girl and she's wearing a skirt. 670 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, I know, okay, I was wondering if it 671 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: was like a cherry blossom color. Do you play a 672 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of Fortnite? 673 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 3: I do? Fortnite is in my game. 674 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: How many hours of Fortnite are you clocking a week? 675 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 3: A week? Probably recently maybe seven seven hours a week? 676 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 3: You know? I play with my friend Serena sometimes cool, 677 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: but usually I just played all those. 678 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: Interesting But playing video games online is actually is a 679 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: way to make like real friends, which I find interested. 680 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: That it's true. But it's really hard for me to 681 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 3: make friends online as much as it is in real life. 682 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 3: I just voice chat kind of scares me sometimes, but 683 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 3: as I'm getting more used to just talking to many people, 684 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 3: you know, mm, but. 685 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: How how old are you? 686 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 3: I'm nineteen, okay. I turned twenty in a month on 687 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: May fourth, So that's pretty cool. 688 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: And you're in North Las Vegas. 689 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 3: Yes, of Nevada. So I used to live in California, 690 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 3: but I moved back in twenty twenty one, which was interesting. 691 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: But you know, I've gotten used to being here in 692 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: the desert. 693 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: Why are you awake at two am? I think it's 694 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: two am? 695 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, two or seven am. That's a good question. I 696 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 3: just watched the movie The Drama with my brother, so 697 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 3: we just got back from that and now I'm playing 698 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 3: Last of Us. Know it's dream. What movie it's called 699 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: The Drama with Zenda and Robert Pattinson. 700 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: Oh? Any good? 701 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 3: It was very good. It was a romance type of movie. 702 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 5: But. 703 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: It talked about very tough top like topics like mass shootings, 704 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 3: in a way that is very It explores the human 705 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 3: nature of almost doing something really bad but backing out 706 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 3: of it. 707 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: It's so it's a romantic movie about mass shootings. 708 00:43:52,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: Yes, so to speak. Basically, Venda's character she was gonna 709 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 3: commit a mass shooting in her school when she was fifteen, 710 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: but she backed out of it last second because something 711 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 3: happened and she just decided not to. And she's in 712 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 3: a relationship with this guy later in her life Pattinson. Yes, 713 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 3: his name is Charlie the character and through just a 714 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 3: random interaction he finds out that that happened to her 715 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: and she never told him about it, so it kind 716 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 3: of explores people's reactions to that type of thing, and 717 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 3: like analyzing whether unconditional love is still president even through 718 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: those things. 719 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: Dude, I love I could have actually just sat here 720 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: and listened to explain the movie. I love watching movies 721 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: by reading the plot synopsis on Wikipedia and then not seeing. 722 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 3: The movie, never watching. 723 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: I've seen so many movies by just reading the plot 724 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: synopsis on Wikipedia. I might go and read the plot 725 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: synopsis of like Game of Thrones on Wikipedia, and I 726 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: probably like a good time, you know, like you get 727 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: the hang of the story, which I guess you came 728 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: home from the drama you got. 729 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 3: No, I've never read Wikipedia block to the movies. I 730 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 3: like watching the movies instead of that. 731 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: And you're you're in a good camp. That's a good 732 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: camp to be in. Actually the camp of actually watching 733 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: the movie. I think that's the better camp to be in. 734 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 3: But anyway, well, it differ interests me that you do that, 735 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: because I mean, I feel like experiencing movie is a 736 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 3: lot different than reading a plot about it. And I 737 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: think you know that, but it seems like, I mean, 738 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to just read something about a movie, 739 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 3: so I get it. 740 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 1: You know, you got home from the drama I did, 741 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: and what did it? Were you feeling emotional from it? 742 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 3: I definitely felt touch by it because the acting was 743 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 3: really really good and convincing. Okay, but I don't know 744 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: how to feel about it. I like to let movies 745 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 3: kind of digest in my head mentally for the next 746 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 3: few days. After I watched one. 747 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: What did your brother think? 748 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: He thought a lot about it. He's really good with words, 749 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 3: make playing stuff. He's like reading essays about it right 750 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: after or articles about it. M hmm, how are you? 751 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: M M. I'm okay, I'm living my life, but I 752 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: have more questions for you. Uh, give me your name 753 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: one more time. 754 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 3: My name is Nick. I never said it, but Nick. 755 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: Nick hmm, okay, let me ask you this. Was there 756 00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: a reason that you called in to this show? Is 757 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something. I sometimes I feel like I 758 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: as sometimes I feel like I'm like I get to uh, 759 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: I get too I get too strict with how I 760 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: want to run the show, and today I'm film then 761 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: feelm I could we just talk about fucking what are 762 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: But I would love that. I mean, in the event 763 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: that you do have something in particular that you called 764 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: in to want to talk about. I am all ears. 765 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that. And there's a reason I called. 766 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 3: I saw your Instagram story like three minutes ago before calling, 767 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 3: so I just suck it and I was gonna I 768 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 3: was gonna listen to the latest episode of your podcast 769 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 3: just now, and then I saw that. So it's a 770 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: bit of a late co incidence. You say you have 771 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 3: a hard time with deciding how you want to run 772 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 3: the show sometimes. Do you feel like that fluctuates a lot? 773 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: Well? 774 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: Wait, you said wall wait you you you said you 775 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: had something you wanted to talk about. Was it was 776 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: the thing you wanted to talk about, just that you 777 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: saw me post about me? You saw me post the 778 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 1: number on Instagram like nick. Not like I'm talking about 779 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: like I'm sorry. I'm not talking about like the logistics 780 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: of how you got here. I'm talking about if there 781 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: was a thing that you wanted to have a a 782 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: conversation about. It's okay if there's If it's not, I 783 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: just thought I thought there. I thought you thought there 784 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: was no. 785 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 3: I do not have didn't have anything in mind when 786 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 3: I called. But the reason was. 787 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: So you you said sorry, I guess. I guess I'm 788 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: reaching for a therapy e thing here, but I am curious. 789 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: I want to know. You said you have trouble making 790 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: friends online and in real life. 791 00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: Right, Uh, well, are you how like friends in their life? 792 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: How long has this been? How long has this been 793 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: in elements of your life? 794 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 3: For a while, I did mention how I moved in 795 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 3: Nevada from California a while ago. 796 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 797 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: I feel like that move and transferring to high school 798 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 3: made it really hard for me to feel like I 799 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 3: set in and when I was in high school, I 800 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 3: didn't know anyone like I did before, Like I had 801 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 3: a whole starting dude before, but now I didn't, and 802 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 3: it was like a whole new thing for me. And 803 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 3: throughout high school, it always just felt like everything was 804 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 3: so hard to do and like I was in such 805 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 3: a bubble, you know, and I just had I just 806 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 3: so much more opportunity and I didn't realize that. But 807 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 3: I feel like, looking back on it, it's been a 808 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 3: great lesson for you know, showing me that I couldn't 809 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 3: literally do whatever I want, and like, you know, I'm 810 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 3: gonna use those opportunities better in the future to like 811 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: actually talk to people and participate in things, and I 812 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 3: feel like I could definitely make friends if I wanted to, 813 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 3: because I'm a cool heart thing now and I feel 814 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 3: like I'm good at talking to people. But I just 815 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 3: haven't been put in the right type of environment for 816 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 3: that to happen to me. Agains. No, I'm not too 817 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 3: worried about that aspect as I used to be of 818 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 3: my life. Having friends with me. 819 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: Thought also good news. You actually don't even have to 820 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: be that cool of a person to make friends. 821 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 3: That's true. 822 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: A lot of there are plenty of and very uncool 823 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: people who have lots of friends. 824 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 3: A good point. I bet Hitler had a lot of friends. 825 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: Hitler had so many. I wonder if he I wonder 826 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: if he had it. I wonder if he had any friends. 827 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. Can you really like who 828 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: gets who gets? How do you get close to a 829 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: guy like that? You know, who was who was close 830 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: to him? Because he he probably had so many people 831 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: under his command, people who feared him and people who 832 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: were part of his whatever, like, but like who got 833 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: close to his heart? Like did he ever open up 834 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: to anyone? I don't think he ever. I don't know 835 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: if he ever opened up to anyone, and if he, 836 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: if he did, like you, did he open up to 837 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: a broun you. 838 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, Like I wonder what that would look like, 839 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 3: him speaking from his heart to like a therapist or 840 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 3: something whatever, a therapist would be back back then, Not 841 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 3: to not to glorify Hitler or anything, but it's like, 842 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 3: I feel like you could sit down with Hitley and 843 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 3: have a cold beer. Young just killed. 844 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, I don't think. I don't 845 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: think he like a guy like that. I don't think 846 00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: has I think anyone who achieves that level of power 847 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: of any kind, I don't think it is like that 848 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: introspective enough of a person that they could open up about. 849 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. 850 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, though, I don't know. Though I've thought 851 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: about dude. I've had I've had fantasies before where like 852 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: I sit I sit down with Donald Trump and I'm 853 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: like What's And I'm trying to like what's what is 854 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: all this? What's going on? And like why why? I 855 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: get the answer, but I don't. I just have this 856 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: feeling like if that if like someone tried to do that, 857 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: he wouldn't he would, like I wouldn't have the introspection 858 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: to give the answer. So I don't know if if 859 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: Hitler could open up like that, I don't know. 860 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. Because he did so much 861 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 3: bad stuff, he feel like it wouldn't be capable for 862 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 3: him to, like, you know, look at himself and really 863 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 3: question what are you doing? 864 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: I think too, I think to carry out I think 865 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: to be the Chancellor of Germany in the nineteen forties 866 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: requires you to be living externally like one hundred percent 867 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: of your waking existence. So I don't like Hitler. Like 868 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: Hitler is not in a room being like thinking about 869 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: his behavior or thinking about the world or thinking about right. 870 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: He's like in he's kind He's like in the zone 871 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time doing this crazy strategy thing, 872 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: not thinking about anything else. He's just like doing, and 873 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: he's I don't even I think so like being like 874 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: a world leader or some shit. I feel like it's 875 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: so much doing that you don't even have time to 876 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: like think about what you're even fucking doing. Yeah, So 877 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't I don't think. I mean, 878 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: he wrote a book. I've never read the book, but 879 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was that introspective of a person. 880 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he did have like like he 881 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: wrote a book, but I think the book is just 882 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't know anything about the book, 883 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 1: but I'm like, is it I don't know if it's 884 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: like a I don't know if it's like a Woody 885 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: Allen neurotic, you know, monologue about the self. You know, 886 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: it seems like again it's like very external stuff. 887 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like a guy like him, I mean 888 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 3: to get to that point anywhere in the world. I 889 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 3: feel like he was a smart guy for sure, you know, 890 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 3: and I feel like he was on a lot of 891 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 3: drugs for most of that time. So what you're saying 892 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 3: makes sense is doing well. 893 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: It's not about well, it's not about smart. I mean smart. 894 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: The word smart is like does a lot of right. 895 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: I guess different ways to define like. I don't like. 896 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if being strategic 897 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: is smart, I don't. I don't know, man, I don't know. 898 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I don't know 899 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: what he's doing, I don't know what we're talking about anymore. 900 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. 901 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: I think I really have had that. Yeah. I really 902 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: have had that moment though, where I'm like, I wish 903 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: I could. I wish I was that good of a 904 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: I wish I wish I was that good of a 905 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: therapy gecko, that I could like sit down with one 906 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: of these guys like what's really are you? What's really 907 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: going on? I don't think I could do it, though, 908 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: but I've had the fantasy. 909 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds intimidating, Nick Lyle. 910 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,439 Speaker 1: Uh Okay, So you were in high school and you 911 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 1: learned the lessons and now you're from what I remember 912 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 1: you saying earlier before we started talking about Hitler is 913 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: that you learn certain lessons of how you want to 914 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: approach the future that you now aim to execute upon. Correct. Correct, Now, 915 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: what do those executions look like? 916 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to see us later this year, which is 917 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 3: College of Southern Nevada, and I went there before but 918 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 3: I dropped out because I didn't like it. But I'm 919 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 3: going back and I feel like I just have a 920 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 3: lot of potential to socialize and make friends and just 921 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 3: participate in stuff. So dude, college is one way I'm 922 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 3: going to do that. 923 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm a I feel like I love I 924 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: had Actually I had a really hard time making friends 925 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: the first year of college. I remember, my first year 926 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: of college is really rough. It is really rough. And 927 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 1: then well I just did I didn't really know where 928 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: I fit in. Like I tried pledging a frat, and uh, 929 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: I didn't like that. I didn't like those. I just 930 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: did seem feel right. It's felt like it's something you're 931 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: like supposed to do. Yeah, I pledged the frat. 932 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah what does that mean? I mean, I know what 933 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 3: a frat is, but to pledge one does that mean 934 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,959 Speaker 3: just to join one? More? Yeah? 935 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: To like, how do I explain? Like you? Like you? 936 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: You you kind of like show up to like parties 937 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: and stuff. I think, and then like the people in 938 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: the frat, like deter, I don't know that much about 939 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: fucking frat culture. Yeah, they get to know you, they 940 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: pick you. Yeah, sometimes they make you. Sometimes they put 941 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: something in your ass. But they didn't do that to me. 942 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't, damn it. 943 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: No, I got haze. There's this thing called bb y 944 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: O and yeah, it's kind of like a it's like 945 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 1: a Jewish frat. There's a lot of like Christian versions 946 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: of it too, but yeah, it's like this like Jewish 947 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: youth organization. And it's kind of like a fraternity, but 948 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: it's high school. And I got hazed getting into that. 949 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: They poured like candle wax. Uh down my yeah, down 950 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: my down my back. Was it hot? Yeah, I mean 951 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: it's pretty Yeah, it's pretty hot. They put you in 952 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: a room. They put you in a room. By the way, 953 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: this is this is not reflect I'm about trying to listen. Listen, 954 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: i'mbout trying to ship on the bene breath youth organization. 955 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what happened. Okay, they're cool folks. 956 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: Out of those is a fun time whatever. 957 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 3: I see you. 958 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, they and they kicked. Did I consent to that? Yeah, 959 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean I mean I pledged whatever that means. 960 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a contract. You can say, 961 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 3: you know, pledge your reasons to the group you're joining. 962 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. It's hard to explain pledge if 963 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: you don't. If you don't, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm 964 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: Gonna'm actual. I'm getting I'm getting a little off track here, 965 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. Go ahead, No, it's try ful. Uh yeah, 966 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: I had our time making friends in college. I joined 967 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: I tried to pledge this fret. I was trying to 968 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: make friends with people on my floor and my roommate. 969 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: I was in a room with three other dudes, and 970 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: they all kind of came in from a different high school, 971 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: and a bunch of their high school friends all went 972 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: to the same college. So I was kind of like 973 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: this new background character in the lives of these like 974 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: high school guys. And I liked a lot of them, 975 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: but also a lot of them. I just wasn't. It 976 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: just felt like it really felt like I was hanging 977 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: out with other people's friends, you know, like it wasn't. 978 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be part of something that was emerging 979 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: from the ground up, and then I was, But instead 980 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I was thrust it into a culture that was that 981 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: was not mine to create, but mine to learn, and 982 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in that, And then I was. I 983 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: started playing Super Smash Brothers, and I didn't want to 984 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: be friends with any of those guys, but I like 985 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: it was nice being around them. You know. Actually I 986 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: made a couple of good friends doing that. I say back, 987 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be friends with those guys. I 988 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 1: it was a good culture to be around. It was 989 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: a good culture to be around. 990 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, but it can be just being 991 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 3: trusted into something like you said, you know, rather than 992 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 3: just being there from the beginning exactly. 993 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: And then it wasn't until I started, like I started 994 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: doing more. I was doing stand up comedy when I 995 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: was like in high school, and then I started just 996 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: doing it again just around Philadelphia, and then through that 997 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: I made a bunch of friends that were like, felt like, oh, 998 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: these are my homies. But that's it took two years 999 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: to get there. So anyway, my kind of cautionary thing is, 1000 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: don't jewish, don't join to do well I mean whatever, 1001 01:01:53,120 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: but no, no, I'm just kidding. Yeah, des joy a 1002 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: club man. Join join a thing that you like to do. 1003 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: What do you like to do? 1004 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 3: I like? I like, I like going on runs. I 1005 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 3: run a lot. 1006 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Oh join a run club, do a run club? Clubs. 1007 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 3: I hear that. I hear it also really horny. I 1008 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 3: don't know how true that is, but like runners when 1009 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 3: they join clubs. 1010 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: I have I have heard that, Yes, I have I 1011 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: that I have heard that. I have heard that. 1012 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 3: I can't comment on it. I like parkour, Like when 1013 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 3: I run, I jump off of poles, not poles that's crazy, 1014 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 3: but like, do. 1015 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Your dude, Okay, what Nick your name is? Yes, Nicholas, dude, 1016 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta, you gotta join. You have to 1017 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: you have to join or create the the CSN Parkour Club. 1018 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 3: That's yeah, I do't. That's the thing. I mean, Oh, 1019 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 3: you creating a club? That sound created? 1020 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: What you said, it sounds tough. Yeah, it's the It's 1021 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: it is the absolute best way to make friends. It 1022 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,919 Speaker 1: is the apps. If you're listening, dude, if you're listening 1023 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: to this fucking podcast right now and you're in college 1024 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and like, I don't have any friends, it is the 1025 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: best possible way to make friends. Like it is a 1026 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: cheat code. It will work one hundred of the time. 1027 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 1: I swear it just will work. Because if you like again, 1028 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: because if you like show up to like another club 1029 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: or whatever another thing, you kind of feel again. It 1030 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: feels like you're it's like there's like a culture that 1031 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you're not like a part of. But if you join, 1032 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: if you like, create the club and then like other 1033 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 1: people like, it's it's just way easier to make people. Yeah, 1034 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: and you and you feel like you're in your own 1035 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: universe that you're creating, and so you're a little bit 1036 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: less alieny feeling. 1037 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds badass. 1038 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Have everyone sign a waiver though, because you might have 1039 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: a couple of kids die running off the you know, 1040 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: roofs and stuff. 1041 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like a trial period though. Account. Yeah, I 1042 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 3: have a question for you, Okay. 1043 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Hit me. 1044 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 3: Have you ever played the Last of Us video games? 1045 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: I started playing it for a little bit and then 1046 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 1: I got stuck on this one level and then I 1047 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to play this anymore. I 1048 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: don't know as soon as they started like introducing enemies 1049 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 1: really yeah. Yeah, because here's the thing, Fuck, I have 1050 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: fuck a lot of those video game games. Like if 1051 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: your video game has a part in it that's like 1052 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: hard to get past, not because it's challenging, but because 1053 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: it's like annoying and stupid and not fun. I don't 1054 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I have no interest in continuing to play your video game. 1055 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 3: I feel you, But I think that's where strategy comes 1056 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 3: in to play, you know, and stuffing your way around 1057 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 3: enemy in the environment. 1058 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in it. I wasn't interested. Do you 1059 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: play a lot of Do you play a lot of 1060 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: other video games besides Fortnite? 1061 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 3: I play Fortnite. I play mostly story based games like Okay, 1062 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 3: I grew up with those kind of games, like The 1063 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 3: Walking Dead, Telltale, Life Is Strange, I love a lot. 1064 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: What are your three favorite video games of all time? 1065 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Life Is Strange, The Walking Dead Season one, Telltale, and 1066 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 3: damn bro, what's the third? I can't just say, anyone, 1067 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: give me a second. 1068 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: Are you sifting through something right now? 1069 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking through my my PlayStations. 1070 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: But because oh I heard that, I heard the little say, 1071 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: I heard the sound in the background. 1072 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 3: My third game, okay, the Life is Strange, The Walking 1073 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 3: Dead Season one, and The Last of Us too, The 1074 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 3: Last of Us two. 1075 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't get I. I can't get through the 1076 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 1: Last of Us. 1077 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 3: It's a very linear type of game. Do you prefer 1078 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 3: more open world type of things like Elder No? 1079 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: I have no. I would hate to play Elden Ring. 1080 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't like like no. I hate open worlds. 1081 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:51,919 Speaker 3: That is one of those things. 1082 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: It's really hard because I don't I want see. I 1083 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: use video games as an escape from having to make 1084 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: decisions in real life, and so I want a video 1085 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:09,439 Speaker 1: game to be like, the more linear, the better, right, 1086 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 1: And I love I love open world games. That give 1087 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: you the option to do all their random bullshit, but 1088 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: they also give you the option to not do all 1089 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: their random bullshit and just play through the main story. 1090 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: You're like a like you know, Grand Theft, Auto or 1091 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Red Dead. They have great philosophies for they run their games. 1092 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of freedom in it. A game 1093 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 3: that reminds me of the Horizons Forbidden Last, say, a 1094 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 3: game about machines that kind of take over the world 1095 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 3: and you can choose to do the main story or 1096 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of other things in the world, and it's 1097 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 3: really cool. 1098 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Horizon Forbidden Forbidden West. Yeah, it woa the start thing. 1099 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 3: Whoa, hey Loy, that's my bro. 1100 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 1: Whoa this guy? I don't like games where like the 1101 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: main character looks all serious. 1102 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 3: She's very scarious. 1103 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why I can't. I'm sure. Yeah, 1104 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: this game looks a little serious people. 1105 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. 1106 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: I like it. Like, what the fuck have I been playing? 1107 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 1: I tried playing middle Gear. I tried replaying middle Gear 1108 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 1: solid for a second. 1109 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 3: That was what I never played Meddle Gear, your son never. 1110 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 3: I've seen the one of the deaths from one of 1111 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 3: the old games in About the East, I love it, 1112 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 3: but no I never played it. Is it linear? Nick? Hello? 1113 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it's been thirty one unit. 1114 01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 1: I spent thirty one minutes, Nick. I'm gonna I'm gonna 1115 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: let you go. 1116 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for setting me free. 1117 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, go ahead to go ahead, but 1118 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: before before it, before I do. 1119 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 3: That, not that I wanted to be separate, set free. 1120 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed talking to you. But go ahead and 1121 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 3: talk to you today. 1122 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1123 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1124 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 3: Life is strange, it is, it is, so enjoy it. Bye, Nick, Bye, Wow, 1125 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 3: have a good day. 1126 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: Oh fuck. I cut them off week and goes on 1127 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: the line taking your phone calls every night every week, 1128 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 1: and goes to just teaching you your lin