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Speaker 1: Sadler will join us at one twenty. We're twenty minutes
Speaker 1: from now. If you're listening on the podcast, I learned
Speaker 1: it makes sense because I was listening at different times,
Speaker 1: you know, Frank, so I get it now, man. But
Speaker 1: Shadow has stayed in the NL West heads over to
Speaker 1: San Diego to be their starting third basement ten years,
Speaker 1: three hundred billion dollars. Does the fantasy value change where
Speaker 1: you drafted him, Frank, I don't think it changes all
Speaker 1: that much. I actually think, uh, I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see his adp rise a little bit now that he
Speaker 1: has a home, gonna hit in the middle of that
Speaker 1: lineup for the San Diego Patres also saw a tweet
Speaker 1: from Derek Carti which compared the the right handed batter
Speaker 1: wOBA for Baltimore Camden Yards versus San Diego and Petco
Speaker 1: and Camdon Yards was fourteen and Petco was eighteen. So
Speaker 1: really not all that big of a change when it
Speaker 1: comes to wOBA for right handed batters. So, Manny Machado,
Speaker 1: I think we'll be fine. Gregory's a little bit more
Speaker 1: about the motivate seen here or Machado. But I see
Speaker 1: a lot of the same numbers from Eronado that I
Speaker 1: do with Machado, and you're getting dual position eligibility, and
Speaker 1: you're also getting, in my opinion, tend of twelve stone basis.
Speaker 1: So I think he should be going in that ten
Speaker 1: to twelve range. All right, Fair enough, there you even
Speaker 1: a little bit higher. There you go with many Machado
Speaker 1: towards the end of the first round. Other big story
Speaker 1: at the moment, Mike Mustakis signs a one year timillion
Speaker 1: dollar deal with the Brewers with an option for twenty.
Speaker 1: He's expected to not be their starting third baseman again,
Speaker 1: but rather they're starting second base. Frank and I just
Speaker 1: had the discussion last hour. Go back check that out
Speaker 1: on demand. Where we rank Mike Mustakis. I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit higher on him than Frankie is, but we're kind
Speaker 1: of close to the same range. Today's show was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a catcher only show. Of course, we had
Speaker 1: the breaking news, which is important to get to you,
Speaker 1: But for the next hour we are going to spend
Speaker 1: it on catcher rankings. As we said, Lad Settler will
Speaker 1: join us coming up at about one twenty. Now, everybody's
Speaker 1: Tier one, Frank has J c Real, Muto, Gary Sanchez,
Speaker 1: and then I'd say everybody else. Is that is that
Speaker 1: fair to say? In my opinion, that is just Tier
Speaker 1: one and then Tier two starts with this whole big
Speaker 1: next group. Um, look, catcher is still not still huge
Speaker 1: drop off after you know the eighth catcher. Both in
Speaker 1: terms of talent and ADP. The eighth catcher right now
Speaker 1: is Buster Posey. I have nothing to do with and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why later on the show. What I'm
Speaker 1: trying to understand. That's trying to cut you off, but
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to understand. And I looked at j.
Speaker 1: Tiro Meto's numbers in preparation about the show. They're awesome,
Speaker 1: right like HER's a really really was bet was was
Speaker 1: awesome going to Philadelphia like a ton to absolutely like
Speaker 1: the whole runs should go up. Um has a good average,
Speaker 1: Rianny's runs and everything should go watch there so much
Speaker 1: like about j j C. Really needs in the prime
Speaker 1: of his career. I get it. He's the number one
Speaker 1: catch off the board. You have no disagreement for me,
Speaker 1: say I should sucked last year like he was horrible?
Speaker 1: Did he wind up batting two hundred or now? How
Speaker 1: bad was he? Greg? I WoT you're ready to tell me?
Speaker 1: He was under two one on alright, So he wound
Speaker 1: up batting one eight six luestion. He struck out twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of the time, eighteen bombs. Eighteen bombs of course,
Speaker 1: over just eight ten gimes. Gary Sanche just hits the
Speaker 1: crap out of the ball. But these numbers remind me
Speaker 1: of like William Rosario when he was on the Rockies
Speaker 1: all those years ago, right, like a ton of bombs,
Speaker 1: not this bad of an average, and there was a
Speaker 1: guy that you were drafted. Is like, you know you're
Speaker 1: five ten catcher, but you believe the Gary Sanche has
Speaker 1: and many people believe, not just you, the Gary Sanche
Speaker 1: is in these jat real Metu do hear him trying
Speaker 1: to figure out why, Like, I know what he did
Speaker 1: two years ago. We've had at two seventy eight, had
Speaker 1: thirty three homers. Ninety eight was upside and then the
Speaker 1: next year you see the downside. So that's why I
Speaker 1: like Rio Muto as the first catcher off the board,
Speaker 1: because he's safer. Gary Sanches even be in this here
Speaker 1: he was god awful last year. Luto doesn't have the
Speaker 1: upside that Gary Sanchez head. He doesn't have as much
Speaker 1: as I love Rio Muto and look I can, I
Speaker 1: can ain't the picture for you actually have it over
Speaker 1: on my Patreon if you go on and read about
Speaker 1: the real Muto trade. I mean his splits home versus
Speaker 1: a way outside of Marlins Park We're even more drastic
Speaker 1: than when Christian Yellis was traded away, So I understand
Speaker 1: what he might be able to do. He has the
Speaker 1: ability to hit three, but he's not gonna hit thirty
Speaker 1: three home runs. He doesn't have that kind of upside.
Speaker 1: We saw that upside out of Gary Sanchez. So my
Speaker 1: opinion Santis higher upside, real Muto, safer floor, safer player overall.
Speaker 1: Um I would still draft him as my first catcher
Speaker 1: off the board. Gary Sanchez has a lower downside than
Speaker 1: Real Muto, and we saw that last year. Why is
Speaker 1: the reason he's still in this tier, Greg is just
Speaker 1: because of what he can do, the ability to hit
Speaker 1: to thirty plus home runs. He's the only catcher that
Speaker 1: can do that. And because of that upside in the
Speaker 1: Yankees line up, hitting in the middle of that order
Speaker 1: with as many RBI opportunities as he's gonna have hit
Speaker 1: ninety r b i s two years ago, seventy nine
Speaker 1: runs scored. Because of all those counting stats, I mean,
Speaker 1: you just don't see that from a catcher. That is
Speaker 1: the reason why he is still in this top tier.
Speaker 1: The strikeouts were up last year, but the swinging strike
Speaker 1: rate as actually wasn't, so I do think, you know,
Speaker 1: the batting average was a little bit unlucky. The babbit
Speaker 1: was down last year. The expected batting average was actually
Speaker 1: three compared to his three. Still not good. But Gary
Speaker 1: Sanders a career to fifty two hitter in his brief career,
Speaker 1: so I think he's closer to that. Even if he's
Speaker 1: a two forty hitter to fifty hitter. I think you
Speaker 1: can hit you know, thirty homers seventy runs a d
Speaker 1: r BIS from a catcher. It's it's hard to it's
Speaker 1: hard to dispute those kind of numbers, that kind of
Speaker 1: projection great. So that's why he's still in this tier
Speaker 1: and rightfully should be. I still think JT. Real Mutos
Speaker 1: the number number one catcher. He's the first catcher off
Speaker 1: the board. These guys year one and two. J C
Speaker 1: number one, Gary Sanders number two. Where do you take them?
Speaker 1: Not just like I know the number one, like I
Speaker 1: can tell you where they're where people are taking them.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have them because I just don't pay
Speaker 1: that price for a catcher. So Real Muto, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to use a fourth round
Speaker 1: price tegnet In in the in the NFBC right now,
Speaker 1: which is two catchers, it's the rotistory format. He's going PICKT. Nine.
Speaker 1: So in a fifteen team league, that's the middle of
Speaker 1: the fourth round. In a twelve team league, that's the
Speaker 1: end of the fourth So that's a territory for J. C.
Speaker 1: Real Muto. I've heard. I've heard some people say that
Speaker 1: he should be going higher than that, that he should
Speaker 1: be a third round pick, because again, these stats away
Speaker 1: from Marlins Park are drastically different. Greg we're talking to
Speaker 1: forty four in Marlins Park in his career with sis
Speaker 1: away re ten batting average eight fifty two ops. The
Speaker 1: isolated power goes up by fifty four points, the babbit
Speaker 1: goes up by almost a hundred and now he goes
Speaker 1: to one of the best hitting hitting ballparks in the
Speaker 1: league in Citizens Bank Park, and he's gonna hit in
Speaker 1: the middle of the lineup with the Philadelphia Philiates, with
Speaker 1: Reese Hopkins potentially Bryce Harper as well. So people are
Speaker 1: making the argument that you're actually getting real Muto at
Speaker 1: of value right now in the fourth round, that he
Speaker 1: should be going in the third round based on you
Speaker 1: know what, he might be able to do my you know,
Speaker 1: realistic projection for real Muto to eighty you know, twenty
Speaker 1: two to twenty five home runs. And he's also going
Speaker 1: to be in that at seventy no no more. Who
Speaker 1: have more than that eighty to eighty five RBIs Because
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the middle of this line up,
Speaker 1: he doesn't give you as many stolen basis as he
Speaker 1: wants to. He'll probably give you like five to seven
Speaker 1: sotule basis JT. Real Muto, those numbers are hard to argue.
Speaker 1: He's the first catcher. He's going in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Gary Sanchez is going pick fifty seven, so on average,
Speaker 1: eight to ten picks later than JT. Real Muto, so
Speaker 1: one so one round later, he's still if it's a
Speaker 1: fifteen team league, still lee in the fourth round pick
Speaker 1: fifty seven? How come you don't take them there? Because
Speaker 1: you're just passing up on so much other great talent.
Speaker 1: Who the other guys go? Who are the guys with me?
Speaker 1: Fam is going in the fourth round? Who are the
Speaker 1: guys going between J. C. Realmuto and Gary Sanches? Like?
Speaker 1: What's that group? Carlos Correa, Patrick corbin Au handing Us
Speaker 1: Squarez and James Paxson. Those are the players going in between.
Speaker 1: Is awesome. Squarretz is awesome. It's awesome, and also will
Speaker 1: plays in a great ballpark inside of a great lineup.
Speaker 1: I don't take these guys because I I can't pass up. Also,
Speaker 1: I mean, look captured, they're more prone to injury than
Speaker 1: any other position. Sure, and think about all like the
Speaker 1: foul balls that are being fouled off them. H Gary
Speaker 1: Sanchez was injured last year. He only played eighty nine games.
Speaker 1: He's yet to play more than a d and twenty
Speaker 1: two games in any season, so you have to worry
Speaker 1: about that as well. And there were just you know,
Speaker 1: there are some catchers, uh, I like later on, I'd
Speaker 1: rather wait. I'd rather take the three to five round
Speaker 1: difference and get a guy like Wilson Ramos or he
Speaker 1: has mindy ground out a little bit later on on,
Speaker 1: or like even a Wilson co Tratrist to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I'd rather just wait and get one
Speaker 1: of those guys as my catchers. Um, it's just I
Speaker 1: can't pass up on some of the players that are
Speaker 1: going in that range, and some of some guys that
Speaker 1: are even going after them Ozzy Albis, James and Tommy
Speaker 1: Fan as of right now, we love Tommy Fan in
Speaker 1: rodo you need five outfielders, you're gonna take a starting
Speaker 1: catcher before potentially your second outfielder. That's why I can't
Speaker 1: do it. It's lineup construction. There's people that can pull
Speaker 1: it off. I've seen, you know, I've seen people win
Speaker 1: drafting catcher early. I've never been one to do it.
Speaker 1: I can't take a catcher earlier than the let's say
Speaker 1: eighth round, that'll be you know, eight nine round, that's
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna target my first catcher. Right. What about you?
Speaker 1: Will you ever own one of these guys? I don't
Speaker 1: want to say never, dude, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: it's it's ultimately gonna be as a look at the
Speaker 1: labor results here, Um, it's ultimately going to be who's there?
Speaker 1: You know? Um? Let me here. We're all right. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have flag coming up in a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes with the dr roto in the fourth round, the
Speaker 1: end of the fourth round. That's exactly where he went
Speaker 1: in the toutward draft in hole okay, see end of
Speaker 1: the fourth wife. So compared to n FBC ADP actually
Speaker 1: got some of a discount there. He went to pick
Speaker 1: fifty seven the end of the fourth round, Gary Sanchez
Speaker 1: middle of the seventh. The labor went at the end
Speaker 1: of the fifth round in the tout war draft in hold,
Speaker 1: so he went at pig See, which is still later
Speaker 1: than his ADP right now. So this he's there in
Speaker 1: the seventh round, like I would take him. I had
Speaker 1: no issue at the pick in the middle of the
Speaker 1: seventh beautiful, but listen to the guys, what don't He
Speaker 1: went around though, Scooter Jeannette, who just talked about Mitch Hannagher,
Speaker 1: A J. Pollock. Those are the hitters, Nelson Cruz, tr
Speaker 1: as Shaw, those are the hitters. And this is why
Speaker 1: I can't take This is why I can't take the
Speaker 1: better And you're like those hitters like I'd rather probably
Speaker 1: have them. The Gary Sanchez people freak out about the
Speaker 1: catcher position. They want to have one of the elite options.
Speaker 1: And if you're one of those people, like this is
Speaker 1: where you're gonna have to pay up for. It's for
Speaker 1: either Rio Muto or Gary Sanchez. It's the fourth fifth
Speaker 1: round price tag. But again in the tout words draft
Speaker 1: in hold. You went ahead of Bogar's he want ahead
Speaker 1: of Lorenzo Kane. You want to get ahead of HANDIGERI,
Speaker 1: Heno Suarez, Michael kinfordo Ad, Alberto Monazi, David Dahl, Ozzy
Speaker 1: Albi's on ahead of all those guys. And then Gary
Speaker 1: Sanche is just one ahead of you know, he want
Speaker 1: ahead of David Price, her Man Marquees, Zach Ranky, Zach Wheeler.
Speaker 1: There's some proven talent there that you're passing up on.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. By the way, the White Sox
Speaker 1: have released Yonder, Alonso Um and John Jay. No they
Speaker 1: have it. I'm reading. No, they haven't say I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding all that just for Machado. All right,
Speaker 1: there you go, and it didn't happen. Um sit here, Leo,
Speaker 1: Gary Sances. Two of your to put the two top guys,
Speaker 1: top guys out the Wrestling Reference or Frank um outside
Speaker 1: a real musical and with Shado. A lot of the
Speaker 1: names that in your Tier two, which you can read
Speaker 1: on Frank's Patreon right now, Wilson Roams, Monty Grandale, Salvador Perez, Wilson,
Speaker 1: and trays Yeada Molina, Buster Posey, Like, this crew of
Speaker 1: dudes has been around for like twenty years. These six
Speaker 1: guys the same You're only talking about Yadia Molinas. Of
Speaker 1: these guys have been the same guys forever. And this
Speaker 1: is the tier that I'm gonna live in to get
Speaker 1: my first catcher, makes sense. I'm gonna get next, next,
Speaker 1: Randal Perez, all right, and even Yadia Malina to a
Speaker 1: certain extent because he's just get him. Like, I think
Speaker 1: he gives you similar production to guys like Wilson Tariers
Speaker 1: and Buster Posey. And it's because of the name value,
Speaker 1: especially with Wilson Trayers that he goes much higher than
Speaker 1: a guy like and Yadia Malina had like all season surgery.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not he's like a million years old.
Speaker 1: But every single year people sleep on him. And every
Speaker 1: single year Yahia Melina puts up numbers, and you know,
Speaker 1: people forget about him. Wilson Ramos as of right now,
Speaker 1: I have as my my third ranked cash or Greg
Speaker 1: and look, he's going over to Milwaukee. It's a better
Speaker 1: hitter's ballpark than whether he was at with the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers. But he's he's safe, he's a safe power
Speaker 1: source from a catcher position, maybe one of the safest.
Speaker 1: I'll say you know him in Salvador Perez and Gary Schances,
Speaker 1: those are the safest power options from the catcher position.
Speaker 1: Has monte Garandel at least twenty two home runs in
Speaker 1: three straight seasons. He has seventy three home runs since
Speaker 1: that is second most among catchers, behind only Salvador Perez.
Speaker 1: Forty hard hit rate last year was the highest of
Speaker 1: his career. Always has good walk rate, so you could
Speaker 1: draft him in your O B P league, Greg, you
Speaker 1: can draft him in head to head points leagues because
Speaker 1: he walks a lot. The strikeout rate a little bit high.
Speaker 1: You know, he's in the mid twenties in terms of
Speaker 1: k rate, but twenty three hey rate was actually lois
Speaker 1: last year. Greg, So grand um safe bed for power.
Speaker 1: I have his projection, you know to forty three home runs,
Speaker 1: sixty five r b I s. You get that from
Speaker 1: a catcher, do you feel pretty good about it? And
Speaker 1: he goes over to Milwaukee too, Yeah, Milwaukee's obviously spot
Speaker 1: you want to be in. One of the reasons that
Speaker 1: we both really like Um, we both really like Mike
Speaker 1: Gustakas as well. You're in a really good lineup, You're
Speaker 1: in a really good park. You're gonna play every day.
Speaker 1: Like that's a lot of at also right, Like you're
Speaker 1: obviously a better ballpark than you were in l A.
Speaker 1: And you don't really have to worry about the Austin
Speaker 1: Barnes factor anymore, which is which is a thing going
Speaker 1: into last season if you can remember, Um, Yes, Monny
Speaker 1: Grandalla is one of those guys. And I've owned Gondela
Speaker 1: a lot and he's warning year, didn't you I did.
Speaker 1: I've had the last couple of years in different leagues,
Speaker 1: but yes, I've never actually owned him. Is one of
Speaker 1: the streakiest hitters in all of baseball. Better for Roto,
Speaker 1: much better for Roto. I mean he just wanted like again,
Speaker 1: I'm not We talked about stats and like other things
Speaker 1: and like I had to look into what other things
Speaker 1: are in place, and maybe some of them were like
Speaker 1: the yips that Grendal had to deal with them whatnot,
Speaker 1: but the Austin bars always on his ass, worry about that.
Speaker 1: In Milwaukee, they signed him to you know, it was
Speaker 1: only a one year deal, but they gave him a
Speaker 1: good amount of money, and money they wanted him to
Speaker 1: be the catcher, and they've consistently made it known throughout
Speaker 1: the off season they want no holes in the lineup.
Speaker 1: Why did they go out sign a guy like Michaelsaki
Speaker 1: is absolutely they want no holes. I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: line up? Does bother you? Does it bother the Grandell
Speaker 1: is probably about what eight seven? Does that bother you? No?
Speaker 1: Because look Luke who's bating ahead of him, He's still
Speaker 1: gonna have great RBI opportunities right ahead of him, four
Speaker 1: or five or four the four or five six just
Speaker 1: ahead him, Travis Shaw, Ryan Brown, Michaelsakis, who catch the
Speaker 1: picture Amy catches right now. Yeah, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: even think it's a worry either. I think Grandell was good,
Speaker 1: like in rodal Leagues, like, I love the honest money
Speaker 1: Grandell I just just bothers me too much in points leaves,
Speaker 1: That's all. But you know here there's nothing wrong with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something wrong. I still I still kind of like, alright,
Speaker 1: we come back, We'll get back to like Wilson Romols
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Speaker 1: was up Flood how much, gentlemen, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1: Not too badly? Not too badly? Eies many Machado day.
Speaker 1: So let's start off right off the bat. What do
Speaker 1: you think of the contract, what do you think of
Speaker 1: the fit, and what does it do to his fantasy value? Man?
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, I don't think the fantasy
Speaker 1: value changes all that much. You'll probably see a lot
Speaker 1: of people discussing today about how Petco is not a
Speaker 1: great hitting park. Uh. The one thing that is true,
Speaker 1: the Division definitely is tough. You've got some really good
Speaker 1: pitchers there. Obviously Machado got a taste of that last year.
Speaker 1: But it'll balance out a little bit with a couple
Speaker 1: of trips to cores there. So as far as this
Speaker 1: fantasy value is concerned, I don't think it it changes
Speaker 1: all that much. You're still looking at a guy. It's
Speaker 1: gonna get your thirty homers, hundred RBIs um, maybe ten
Speaker 1: steals and a decent batting average. So all in all,
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty two overall, I think is still a
Speaker 1: good price point for for him. What's going on, Glad,
Speaker 1: it's Frank Stanfel here. I I thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: may Machado was had at a discount to this point,
Speaker 1: you mentioned where he was going kind of like that
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty two range, who was going early second round.
Speaker 1: I see here in the tout Wars draft in Hold,
Speaker 1: which you are taking a part of, uh, that he
Speaker 1: went at pick two, four, six, eight, ten. He went't
Speaker 1: picked ten, And I was kind of wondering why in
Speaker 1: more high stakes drafts and with NFBC ADP, why hasn't
Speaker 1: he more so lived in that range and that ten
Speaker 1: to twelve range, because he's gonna have the dual eligibility.
Speaker 1: Now assume he plays third base, but he's gonna have
Speaker 1: third base shortstop eligibility. To me, he does a lot
Speaker 1: of what Nolan Narronado does, but he also is gonna
Speaker 1: give you, like the those ten to twelve stolen bases.
Speaker 1: I thought people were getting at a good discount, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was just because he wasn't signed yet.
Speaker 1: Do you think he climbs up draft boards a little bit? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that's really the thing. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not seeing him go ten and too many drafts like
Speaker 1: you did in this one. And of course, uh, the
Speaker 1: sort of little flip of the script there is that
Speaker 1: this is a non base percentage league here instead of
Speaker 1: batting average. Um. But yeah, I mean, you know, there
Speaker 1: are just so many good players in that first round,
Speaker 1: and I think you know you've got Sale into Graham
Speaker 1: there as well up of pictures that people are interested in.
Speaker 1: So it's really a wide range. So you may see
Speaker 1: a slight little bit of uptick, but what it comes
Speaker 1: down to is when a guy like that doesn't have
Speaker 1: a team, um, you know, as it had been up
Speaker 1: until this point, it's really just gonna have an effect
Speaker 1: on his ADP. And that's why in a recent draft,
Speaker 1: I mean I saw Harper go twenty five overall, and
Speaker 1: I bet you as soon as he signs, he'll jump
Speaker 1: back up into that tent five team range. So uh,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to assesss and and the way that
Speaker 1: people look at things when a player doesn't have an
Speaker 1: official team. Talking to Glad Settler Roto Goo, one of
Speaker 1: our favorite high stakes players of Lesbian Studio with us,
Speaker 1: is always great to chat with him. Uh, many of
Speaker 1: a shadow, I don't want to say over shadows. Mikero
Speaker 1: stock is what the over shadows Microstock is quite a bit,
Speaker 1: but we's not your signe for for ten million for
Speaker 1: one year in Milwaukee. And we were talking for the
Speaker 1: last hour of Frank about where he fits in our
Speaker 1: second base ranks. And I asked you the same thing, lad,
Speaker 1: right like, where is he gonna fall for you? I
Speaker 1: mean second bases? Um, you know, it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: it's one of those positions. It there's value throughout, and
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of guys later on.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I myself, I'm kind of liking
Speaker 1: some of those guys really late. I've been waiting on
Speaker 1: second baseman um, snagging guys who can possibly help me
Speaker 1: with batting average or you know, can contribute across the board.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a late guy like Joey Wendell, who actually,
Speaker 1: you know, competed for the AL Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: last year. Maybe somebody like Jeff McNeil way cheap, but
Speaker 1: in Mustakis's range or even above him. You've got a
Speaker 1: couple of veterans and Robinson Canoe and uh um uh
Speaker 1: Brian Doser, who I think might have a bounce back years.
Speaker 1: Rognanto doors around there too, um. And with Mustakas you
Speaker 1: know what you're getting, Um, you are getting you know,
Speaker 1: a third basement at a second basement position, at a
Speaker 1: middle end field spot, somebody with good power, uh, and
Speaker 1: just someone who's always going to have a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dragon batting average. But Henry signing there in
Speaker 1: Milwaukee is fantastic, one of the best hitter hitter sparks
Speaker 1: in baseball. So um, it'll be nice to see what
Speaker 1: he does this here, and I definitely wouldn't pass on
Speaker 1: him at his current a DP. We're speaking with Lad Seidler.
Speaker 1: Make sure you give him a follow on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Rhodo Gut. I want to get into the tout Wars
Speaker 1: draft and hold here flat You mentioned this is an
Speaker 1: O b P format, so it kind of excuse some
Speaker 1: of the some of the draft picks here a little bit.
Speaker 1: You see a guy like Joey Votto go at the
Speaker 1: end of the third round, where maybe that might not
Speaker 1: be the case if this were just batting average, but
Speaker 1: you had picked you had pick six, seven to seven,
Speaker 1: you have picked seven here. Who are you hoping for
Speaker 1: you ended up with Max Scherzer. Was that the plan
Speaker 1: was that exactly who you wanted or were hoping for
Speaker 1: someone else to fall here? I mean, you know this
Speaker 1: is what this is, what's happened to me, happening to
Speaker 1: me all season long or all draft season long, supple
Speaker 1: far is I'm just not getting an early pick. Everything
Speaker 1: is you know, ended up falling in the middle seven
Speaker 1: or eight, which is fine. Uh. You know, in this format,
Speaker 1: I thoughts starting with Max Scherzer was a good idea.
Speaker 1: Grabbing him and Walker Bueller and the third um really
Speaker 1: just allows me to concentrate on building some hitters for now.
Speaker 1: But you know, at that seven pick, J D. Martinez
Speaker 1: would have would have taken him in a jiffy if
Speaker 1: he had fallen into that spot, but pretty much knew
Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to to be honest, I really
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting Max to fall there. I was thinking based
Speaker 1: on some of the previous drafts I've seen. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: in the f S t A we had the seven
Speaker 1: pick and and insures or went five, so we missed
Speaker 1: them there. Um. But you know, I think there are
Speaker 1: some that can make a case that Sale or to
Speaker 1: Gram are the number one starting pitchers overall this year.
Speaker 1: But I think for the most part, Max is a nice, solid,
Speaker 1: safe bet, and uh, it felt like a good way
Speaker 1: to kick things off. Well, think it was interesting is
Speaker 1: how you followed the Max Schures your pick um et
Speaker 1: in round to you. And that's what Andrew Ben in
Speaker 1: Tendee obviously came to his own last year. And assume
Speaker 1: you're expelling the breakout here in your two. You just
Speaker 1: been in Tendee in the second round, lad and four
Speaker 1: pictures went off. Five out of the next six picks
Speaker 1: were starting pitchers. It's even more than that. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're right, it's uh seven and next we're starting pictures.
Speaker 1: What did you think about all that? Why Ben intended there?
Speaker 1: Because I'm just looking at this for the first time, like, whoa,
Speaker 1: this is crazy blood. Yeah. I mean it was picked
Speaker 1: twenty three overall there in the middle of the second round,
Speaker 1: and uh, pretty much any everybody that I was looking
Speaker 1: at um had just been sniped right before me been
Speaker 1: at Endy. It's you know, he's just somebody who who
Speaker 1: I think is despite being a top thirty overall guy,
Speaker 1: it feels a little undervalued to me. I feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you could do a lot worse than um,
Speaker 1: you know, leading off ahead of the likes of Mooky
Speaker 1: Betts and and j D. Martinez. So I see a
Speaker 1: boatload of runs score score this year. I see him
Speaker 1: over twenty Homer's over twenty steals, possibly getting close to
Speaker 1: three hundred. Just a nice, safe guy and obviously helping
Speaker 1: o b p Uh. It was just really a case
Speaker 1: of there are some other guys that they just missed.
Speaker 1: I think Harper I would have taken how he had
Speaker 1: fallen to fall into that spot. But you know, I
Speaker 1: just knew that I wasn't gonna go with the second
Speaker 1: pitcher there, so pretty much took who I thought was
Speaker 1: the best hitter at the board on it at that time.
Speaker 1: Would you taking Lindor? Yep, he was to pick right
Speaker 1: before me. I would have taken Lindora. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say you you had to be freaking out Francisco Lindor.
Speaker 1: I know he you know, he's dealing with the castra
Speaker 1: and he's expected to miss seven and nine weeks, which
Speaker 1: puts him at you know, early April here. But you
Speaker 1: know a lot of drafts that we've seen, I know
Speaker 1: in uh in Labor just just last week he went
Speaker 1: a pick like eight or nine to Joe Sheehan. So
Speaker 1: for him to fall into the middle of the second round,
Speaker 1: you're probably freaking out with the potential of starting your team.
Speaker 1: Surezan Francisco Lindor, that would have been pretty crazy, man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it would have been absolutely insane. I was
Speaker 1: sitting there, I wonder if he'll kept there one more
Speaker 1: pick and uh. And of course, the way it always
Speaker 1: works is it doesn't happen and you just have to
Speaker 1: always have a backup plan. The crazy thing is that
Speaker 1: we keep seeing Frank we saw in this draft, as
Speaker 1: well as Jean Carlos Stanton going in the middle of
Speaker 1: the second round, Like I just I think it's amazing,
Speaker 1: I get these have this monster a year. And that
Speaker 1: was that was part of the reason that I've mentioned.
Speaker 1: You know, if you draft at the end of the
Speaker 1: first round, you can afford to take a starting pitcher
Speaker 1: like a de Gram or a Sale because you could
Speaker 1: come right back around in the early second round and
Speaker 1: you're getting first round caliber talent that we've seen. You know,
Speaker 1: that was a couple of years ago. Last year, Jiancarlo
Speaker 1: Stanton was a first round draft pick, Paul Goldsmith was
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. Bryce Harpert was a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick. You're getting those guys in the second
Speaker 1: round now, so you can afford to kind of take
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher there and come back around and get
Speaker 1: a first round caliber talent hitter in the second round.
Speaker 1: We're speaking with Lad Seidler. We're going over his tout
Speaker 1: Wars Draft and Hold draft. If you check out my Twitter,
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the link here so you can follow
Speaker 1: along with what we're talking about. Uh, this is a
Speaker 1: fifty round draft. It's similar to the NFBC style Draft
Speaker 1: Champions where there are no waiver wire pickups throughout the season.
Speaker 1: This is an O B format here, but it is
Speaker 1: fifty rounds and you just kind of you set your
Speaker 1: line throughout the year. But it's draft and hold. Lad
Speaker 1: continuing on in your draft, you know you took Max
Speaker 1: Cher's at first, you took Andrew Bennintendi in the second round.
Speaker 1: You come around here in the third round and you
Speaker 1: pair your SP two, which is a great SP two.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are getting them getting him as
Speaker 1: their SP one. You get Walker Bueller and you pair
Speaker 1: him with Max scherzer Um. I asked Matt Moldika the
Speaker 1: same thing last week, and I'm gonna ask you as well.
Speaker 1: The one thing that worries me about Walker Bueler because
Speaker 1: I think the skills are phenomenal. The repertoire, the strikeouts,
Speaker 1: the walks, the groundballs, everything that he does looks great.
Speaker 1: He had a huge innings jump last year. Is that
Speaker 1: something that worries you with Walker Bueller? I mean a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think it's pretty well known or at
Speaker 1: least people that you know that followed closely to know
Speaker 1: that you're not really gonna have any two pictures from
Speaker 1: this group. Um, you know, it's gonna be a sort
Speaker 1: of a mixed bag over the course of the year.
Speaker 1: They'll get struggling, some start my Eta Ryu. You know,
Speaker 1: they have just so many guys on this team, so
Speaker 1: much talent. Um doesn't even include maybe somebody like a
Speaker 1: Dennis Santana who may make his way back eventually. Who
Speaker 1: you're Urias, who you know obviously is a big stud
Speaker 1: and still a young kid. So a lot of innings
Speaker 1: to go around. Um, and over the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: I mean, there really isn't a better team as far
Speaker 1: as starting pitchers ratios is concerned. Here are in with
Speaker 1: So it's a really good team to target in fantasy. Uh.
Speaker 1: As far as Walker Bueller is concerned, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: you you know, maybe you're not going to get the
Speaker 1: full thirty two starts, but the ones that you do
Speaker 1: get are going to be very quality. You're gonna get strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Can possibly see some upside with him, and you're definitely
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of help in the in
Speaker 1: the ratios with the arian with there, we're talking to
Speaker 1: Glad Settler. Follow him at Rhodo Gut on Twitter. He's
Speaker 1: a fantastic follow of course the high stakes player. He's
Speaker 1: the tout Wars had to head champ last year to
Speaker 1: make sure you follow him at the Gut. It's our guy,
Speaker 1: Glad Settler, Um, Glad. We were talking catchers. We'll get
Speaker 1: back into it um in a few moments, but traditionally
Speaker 1: this season J C. Real Muto, Gary Sanchez artsyre one
Speaker 1: and I pose the question to Frank. I want to
Speaker 1: pose it to you too, and that is Gary Sanches
Speaker 1: beat in that tier like this dude bad under two
Speaker 1: hundred last year. I know, batting averages and everything. Obviously
Speaker 1: slid eighteen home runs. But you could use the eye tests,
Speaker 1: you could use a stat test, use whatever you want.
Speaker 1: This guy sucked last year. Gary sandrasill still be the
Speaker 1: second catcher off the board. If not the first Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I think the definitely a clear
Speaker 1: little difference. Um, you know, real Muto to me is
Speaker 1: in a tier by himself, helf, especially heading over to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Uh And um, you know the thing with Sanchez because
Speaker 1: he is so poor defensively and needs to date some Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he is a drag to the batting average.
Speaker 1: I think that's something that hurts. There's no doubt about
Speaker 1: the power. You're talking about a guy that if he's
Speaker 1: healthy and playing a hundred fifty games, they're gonna see
Speaker 1: thirty plus home runs. There should be no problem. And
Speaker 1: the answer usually lies in the middle of the player.
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what he did the previous season. Sure,
Speaker 1: batting average wasn't fantastic, but also he's not a sub
Speaker 1: Mendoza hitter. So you know the true um, you know,
Speaker 1: the true skill set lies somewhere in between. He plays
Speaker 1: the Yankee Stadium with a great team. Um, I think
Speaker 1: he fits in. Well. The thing is with me is
Speaker 1: I'm just not really I'm not spending for an early catcher.
Speaker 1: It's just a tenant that I've had for many, many years. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, we saw what happened with Posey a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Lucroix the year prior. I mean,
Speaker 1: people are spending a top fifty pick for a catcher,
Speaker 1: and something always seems to happen. So for me, I'm
Speaker 1: hitting on other positions. I don't care about position scarcity,
Speaker 1: and I'd rather kick things off with my first catcher
Speaker 1: being somebody in the middle range. That's kind of what
Speaker 1: we see. Greg. I'm I'm smart, No, Lad smart like me,
Speaker 1: or vice versa. I'm smart like Glad because I said
Speaker 1: the same thing. I just I can't use a fourth
Speaker 1: or fifth round price tag on a catcher. Now. I
Speaker 1: was one of those people who I took down with
Speaker 1: Lucroid a couple of years ago. Uh, in the fifth round,
Speaker 1: I basically told myself never again, because I mean, there's
Speaker 1: just so many things that could go wrong with any player,
Speaker 1: but especially at catching, Like these guys can get banged
Speaker 1: up more than anybody else in the MLB. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: they're constantly taking foul balls, so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: You mentioned, Uh, you mentioned you live in the middle
Speaker 1: of the middle rounds with catcher. I said, normally, I'll
Speaker 1: wait till round eight, nine, ten, somewhere around their Glad
Speaker 1: to target. My first catcher is that the runs that
Speaker 1: you're looking at, and who are a few names that
Speaker 1: you find yourself ending up with a lot this year
Speaker 1: at the catcher position. Yeah, I mean, you know, right
Speaker 1: before that in debt, you know, right before that Ranger
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I do think he has money. Grundal
Speaker 1: in Miller Park, I think is very intriguing. I think
Speaker 1: he's gone arguably, you know, if not real muta. I
Speaker 1: think he's got a good shot at leading all catchers
Speaker 1: in um in you know, driving in runs this year,
Speaker 1: um probably you know, could approach home runs again and
Speaker 1: always a good walk rate despite hurting the average so
Speaker 1: Goodall is someone that's intriguing to me. I could do
Speaker 1: think Wilson can Traris of the Cubs bounces back. Don't
Speaker 1: think he is ever going to have as bad of
Speaker 1: a season as he had last year. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: he's somebody that I'm interested in. And I'm actually a
Speaker 1: little bit back on the posey train, and that's only
Speaker 1: because you know, he's fallen. He's becoming an attent to
Speaker 1: leventh round pick. Uh. And that's even in fifteen teamers.
Speaker 1: So he's somebody that's intriguing to me. Uh, typically, I've
Speaker 1: been a you know, Wilson Rono's guy from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: He's getting a little older. Um, I do like that
Speaker 1: Mets lineup. He's someone I might consider, But I do
Speaker 1: have a little bit of like gut tendencies that this
Speaker 1: may may not be a full season of health for him.
Speaker 1: This year. We're sponding, Buster posing, Buster posing. It's all
Speaker 1: about value, and I understand, you know, when he's on
Speaker 1: the field, he's still going to give you a really
Speaker 1: good batting average. What I worry about, Lad is just, uh,
Speaker 1: the consistent drop in power reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: a guy like Joe Mauer. Right, It's like I looked
Speaker 1: at them side by side. It's almost identical. They're they're
Speaker 1: isolated powers after their breakout seasons in terms of power. Uh,
Speaker 1: the they both kind of you know, just they've consistently declined.
Speaker 1: So I see a lot of Joe Mauer at the
Speaker 1: end of his career and look, Buster posey. He's not
Speaker 1: even as old as Joe Mauer was when that was happening.
Speaker 1: But you know, coming off the hip surgery, I wonder
Speaker 1: is he gonna play every day early on in the season.
Speaker 1: Those are just some of the reasons. Me personally, I'm
Speaker 1: scared off Buster Posey, but I could understand why someone
Speaker 1: uh likes Buster Posey at the price because again in
Speaker 1: a fifteen team or you're getting him the tenth round,
Speaker 1: whereas in years past you have to use a fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth round pick on him. Ye um, you know, definitely,
Speaker 1: and that discount has priced in there a little bit
Speaker 1: where he's going one fifty to the one seventy range
Speaker 1: for a guy that's been a fantastic hitter for so
Speaker 1: many years, and for if people just acknowledge that you're
Speaker 1: going to have a little bit of that power drop. Um,
Speaker 1: just knowing that he's going to hit third in in
Speaker 1: a lineup, not a great lineup, not a great team,
Speaker 1: but somebody that consistently makes contact, um will help you
Speaker 1: an average, which I think is a very um sort
Speaker 1: of underappreciated category. UM. So I think there could be
Speaker 1: a little bit drip of value remaining with with Buster Posey.
Speaker 1: There pretty weight lad settler at Rhodo Gut. I've already
Speaker 1: seen the text message from Jake making sure that everybody
Speaker 1: knows that Jake was the champ last year. Glad was
Speaker 1: the champter the year before. So I've already gotten that
Speaker 1: text message. So I want to make sure you're very
Speaker 1: clear that I Jake led all year last year, Lad
Speaker 1: wanted at some point, right, we're not wrong about that.
Speaker 1: Jake wanted all year last year, start to finish glad
Speaker 1: one the year before, So I'm making that very very clear.
Speaker 1: And and and that's of course, so it's also clear
Speaker 1: that I was an aled tout last year. Um, so
Speaker 1: I wasn't in that league, so I'm sure maybe that's
Speaker 1: the stakes would have been a little bit different. There
Speaker 1: you go, There you go, Glad. We got under a
Speaker 1: minute left. So last question is catcher um related we've
Speaker 1: talked about. That's here the wilsgon chrais he has money,
Speaker 1: grandal buster posey, Frank, that's where you said you wanted
Speaker 1: to live, and it sounds like, Lad, it's kind of
Speaker 1: where you wanted to live as well. Give me one
Speaker 1: late name that we need to know, a late name.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm good with Omar norvayaz as a very
Speaker 1: late round pick won't hurt the cattle, all right, There
Speaker 1: you go, Vas, check them out. Franks been pumping him
Speaker 1: up and well let him do it. We can back
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Speaker 1: we will try to go quickly to do a lot,
Speaker 1: to get to Franks to kill me. Um. I do
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Speaker 1: ghur really Lad Sadler, All right, Frankie, the Catchers. We've
Speaker 1: hit on your money, Grandell. We've hit on the Big
Speaker 1: three if you will in this crew that you really like,
Speaker 1: Luster posey kind he's in He's in the tier if
Speaker 1: they don't really like him. But Wilson Ramos, Nope, Wilson
Speaker 1: Ramos is in here. I like Wilson Ramos. Salvador Perez
Speaker 1: in here, Wilson contraris in here. How do you break
Speaker 1: those guys down? So I have I have you his
Speaker 1: money Grandala as my third rank catcher right now, and
Speaker 1: I have Wilson Ramos as my fourth rank catcher, and
Speaker 1: then Salvador Perez is my fifth. So those are at
Speaker 1: three or four five right there. That's really the range
Speaker 1: that I want to live in. That's where I want
Speaker 1: want to grab my first catcher. Uh. And you know
Speaker 1: they have they have climbed up draft boards a little
Speaker 1: bit here. Um. You know, I with what Lad said
Speaker 1: about the Mets lineup. I do like the Mets lineup.
Speaker 1: I think Wilson Romins is gonna be in the middle
Speaker 1: of all that. This guy has a thirty nine hard
Speaker 1: hit rate UM last year, which was his highest since
Speaker 1: to since two thousand and thirteen. People will look at
Speaker 1: the batted ball profile and they get, you know, scared,
Speaker 1: off a little bit by the fact that he hits
Speaker 1: a lot of groundball. I don't mean to sound hypocritical here,
Speaker 1: because that's that's something that I'll call out other batters
Speaker 1: for having. But he is able to overcome that because
Speaker 1: he consistently has had over a home run to fly
Speaker 1: ball ratio. Um, so you know, it's something that he's
Speaker 1: consistently done. I think he's still gonna hit fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty home runs with a great batting average. Because he
Speaker 1: hits in the middle of the lineup for the Mets,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be in a good position to
Speaker 1: to uh to drive in runs as well. Look his
Speaker 1: three his three or six batting average last year let
Speaker 1: all catchers by far. The next closest was Buster Posey
Speaker 1: at two eight four. So he has that batting average upside.
Speaker 1: Uh not gonna hit a ton of home runs last year.
Speaker 1: His one hundred thirty game page was seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1: So I do think he'll be in that you know,
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen home runs range. But I do think he
Speaker 1: could give you, you know, and this is lofty for
Speaker 1: catcher seventy plus rbs in the middle of the Mets lineup.
Speaker 1: I think that he'll be able to pull that off.
Speaker 1: So you know, give me a two eight batting average,
Speaker 1: seventeen on runs, seventy and seventy five r B I
Speaker 1: from a catcher, I have him ranked as my fourth
Speaker 1: rank catcher. That that's he's one of the guys who
Speaker 1: are gonna be targeting very heavily. There's lots of the
Speaker 1: obviously lots lots of they're with that projection. What about
Speaker 1: so the other guys there, Frank Salvador Perez. Look, he's
Speaker 1: he's the iron man. He's the iron man. That's why
Speaker 1: in the poll at Fantasy BFFs I I voted for Salvador. Depress.
Speaker 1: What is that poll doing by you talk a look,
Speaker 1: you let me know what the what the results are
Speaker 1: going on with there? But at least twenty one home
Speaker 1: runs four straight seasons, massive, massive forty six percent hard
Speaker 1: hit rate last year, Wilsamos a charity, and the last
Speaker 1: Salvador Press, so you know you might be able to
Speaker 1: get him at a discount then, because it's it's the
Speaker 1: the old boring guy, the guy who just does exactly
Speaker 1: what you want him to do. Like, why don't people
Speaker 1: want players like that? You know, uh sala reprez. He's
Speaker 1: gonna he had two thirty five last year. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: he's more of like a two six hitter. I think
Speaker 1: he's probably closer to their twenty one home runs four
Speaker 1: straight seasons. Mentioned the hard hit rate forty hard hit
Speaker 1: rate last year a career high eggs velocity nine point
Speaker 1: two miles per hour. Um, yeah, I mean he looks
Speaker 1: he hit the little harder and he hit more line
Speaker 1: drives than ever. But his babbitt was to forty five,
Speaker 1: which was a career low. So it doesn't really make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. Not a great line
Speaker 1: up in Kansas City. But guy's consistent and he's gonna
Speaker 1: give you twenty plus home runs. He's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the middle of the line up again. Another catcher was
Speaker 1: gonna give you seventy plus RBIs you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: play every single day. He's the iron man. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't Is there anything that you don't like about Salvat
Speaker 1: repress Greig, No, there's there's nothing. Here's what I don't
Speaker 1: like about it. If you're playing a p P or
Speaker 1: if you're playing a point leee, he doesn't walk. He
Speaker 1: doesn't walk at all. That's always the thing with with
Speaker 1: Salva repress. So you know, you playing O b P,
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna target him. So it's because I
Speaker 1: I did target him last year because I thought the
Speaker 1: value is going to be just good. I thought the
Speaker 1: value was just so ridiculous. OVP was horrible last year
Speaker 1: at to seventy four. The average was horrible last year
Speaker 1: at thirty five. That was also very bad at forty five.
Speaker 1: But I really like about salvage Prez doesn't strike out either, right,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't strike out, but he strikes nder twenty
Speaker 1: percent of times. He just makes so much contact, and
Speaker 1: a lot of that's just really hard contact, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's hard percentage is forty five nine
Speaker 1: percent last year, which is top fifteen all of baseball.
Speaker 1: He hit seven home runs back to back seasons. That
Speaker 1: seems really rb. I s eighty back to back season,
Speaker 1: that's real. I think what you see with Salvador Perez
Speaker 1: is what you get. He batted. He had a hundred um,
Speaker 1: played in a hundred and twenty nine games last year
Speaker 1: and still missed the start of the season with an injury.
Speaker 1: Like he's an iron man. He plays and it's the
Speaker 1: end of the season with an injury too. He plays
Speaker 1: every day. You know he's gonna hit home runs. You
Speaker 1: know he's gonna have r B. I you know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're getting with Salvador Perez, and I think there's
Speaker 1: say this, there's something that to be said for that.
Speaker 1: There's always something to be said when you know what
Speaker 1: you're getting out of a guy. And how about this, Greg,
Speaker 1: even with him not walking at all at all, he
Speaker 1: finishes the fourth frank Catcher and points leaves last year
Speaker 1: because the fact that he doesn't walk is mitigated by
Speaker 1: the fact that he plays every single day. That's the
Speaker 1: best that's the best thing about him. That's the best
Speaker 1: part of Salvador press like in O B Prodo. Though
Speaker 1: he does take a hit of course, of course, and
Speaker 1: I get that. Leagues normally we like guys that walk.
Speaker 1: We like guys that don't strike out much. Salvador Perez
Speaker 1: is kind of the opposite of both of those things.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna walk, He's gonna strike out a decent amount.
Speaker 1: But because he plays every day, that's something that we
Speaker 1: also want. In points lead do you want um? We
Speaker 1: want guys that are in there all the time. We
Speaker 1: you know, we want guys at the top of the lineup,
Speaker 1: guys who were gonna see the most play appearances. We
Speaker 1: want volume in points leaves. That's what we want. That's
Speaker 1: what Salvado Prez gives you. The home run of five
Speaker 1: ball ratio for someone like Wilson con Treres a startling
Speaker 1: under ten percent last year. The hard hit percentage was
Speaker 1: under last year. This is where we have to talk
Speaker 1: about what I mentioned earlier on in the show, because
Speaker 1: the statistically it tells me Wilson Contrais is gonna bounce
Speaker 1: back because he was atrocious last year. Beyond statistically, it
Speaker 1: was so bad, so bad. But this is where you
Speaker 1: kind of buy into talk to him being with Joe Madden,
Speaker 1: and I've read quote from Joe Madden saying, Luke, We're
Speaker 1: gonna do everything we can to get Wilson Traier's back
Speaker 1: on track. The fact that he had prospect pedigree, the
Speaker 1: fact that just the year before he was a lot better.
Speaker 1: So you're buying into all of those things. You haven't
Speaker 1: given anything, you ever really given me anything yet, right
Speaker 1: Like you're using just like all right, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, the mentality approach, But no I got you.
Speaker 1: I look at it statistically, I'm out totally, and I
Speaker 1: understand that. But when you give the heat the girlfriend
Speaker 1: a Michael Kopack, or you give me Gagura and the
Speaker 1: family issues, or you give me um Steven Piscott and
Speaker 1: his mother, right like, I got you. I understand that.
Speaker 1: But you're telling me, just Joe Madden, we're gonna work here.
Speaker 1: Here's an exact here's an exact quote I got from
Speaker 1: Joe Madden. He became really down on himself. He dragged
Speaker 1: himself down a bit. That was last year, and so
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was a snowball effect that Wilson
Speaker 1: drest utterly sucked last year, and he really got inside
Speaker 1: of his own head, and that was part of the reason.
Speaker 1: It just it just kept snowballing, and he just got
Speaker 1: worse and worse as the season got on. I went on,
Speaker 1: like Wilson Ramos, he's a guy that hits the ball
Speaker 1: on the ground a lot. The biggest difference between the
Speaker 1: Wilson's here, well, Wilson Taris has an extra L in
Speaker 1: his name. Not only that he doesn't hit the ball
Speaker 1: as hard, So the hard hit rate was down a
Speaker 1: lot lass year. At least. You know, with Wilson Ramos,
Speaker 1: he hits the ball on the ground, you know, over
Speaker 1: fifty per son at the time, but he mitigates that
Speaker 1: by having a high home run the flyball ratio because
Speaker 1: he hits the ball so hard, so you know he's
Speaker 1: only gonna hit you know, maybe thirty percent fly all right,
Speaker 1: but one out of every five of those fly balls
Speaker 1: are going out of the yard. He's consistently had over
Speaker 1: home run in the fly ball ratio. That's Wilson Rambos,
Speaker 1: Wilson and Dreris we had you know, we had one, uh,
Speaker 1: pretty good years year, but then last year he was
Speaker 1: very bad. So do we meet somewhere in the middle,
Speaker 1: do we get closer to his closer to his UH
Speaker 1: year when he hits twenty one home runs but it's
Speaker 1: seventy six batting average. He's doing that with a twenty
Speaker 1: five nine home run to five ball rage. It's just
Speaker 1: really it's just really interesting because if you look at
Speaker 1: the stats from walk really went down, you know, about
Speaker 1: a percentage is not nothing crazy. The strikeout percentage is
Speaker 1: kind of similar the babbit kind of similar. The average
Speaker 1: in the OVP dropped, and as we said, the home
Speaker 1: run of five ball ratio was got awful each of um,
Speaker 1: especially last year. It went from to nine. His batting
Speaker 1: average was to fort nine. Bad is expected batting average,
Speaker 1: which on Baseball Savant you can check this out. They
Speaker 1: use stat cast data. They use how hard you hit
Speaker 1: the ball, where you spread the ball to how often
Speaker 1: you strike out. They come up with a formula that
Speaker 1: tells them what you're expected batting average would have been. Ok,
Speaker 1: I think you guess what it should have been too.
Speaker 1: He hit two forty nine last year to nineteen. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Even worse. They're saying he was lucky. He
Speaker 1: was lucky to have a two forty nine batting average.
Speaker 1: All the projections and over on fan graphs. It does
Speaker 1: create a buying opportunity because you know, you heard Flat
Speaker 1: say it, and there's gonna be a lot of smart
Speaker 1: players who were gonna say, all right, let me let
Speaker 1: me buy back in on Wilson Travis. I'm getting him
Speaker 1: at a discount. Last year, you're paying a fifty sixth
Speaker 1: round price tag. Now you're getting him in the eighth,
Speaker 1: ninth round. You're getting a few rounds of discount. Here.
Speaker 1: I still trust the player. I still trust the lineup.
Speaker 1: I trust Joe Madden to get him back on track.
Speaker 1: If that's what you trust, then sure. Statistically, there was
Speaker 1: nothing last year that said that he's gonna be better
Speaker 1: this year. All of the projections on fan graphs are
Speaker 1: basically the same. Fifteen home runs to sixty runs scored,
Speaker 1: sixty rives, a couple of stolen bases, batting about to
Speaker 1: sixty And you know what, the stats actually support the
Speaker 1: fact that he got inside of his own head and
Speaker 1: that it was more of a snowball effect because from
Speaker 1: the first half of the second half he got progressively worse.
Speaker 1: In the second half, his groundball rate went up nine percent.
Speaker 1: Is his heart hit rate went from thirty one percent
Speaker 1: in the first half to twenty three point nine percent
Speaker 1: in the second half. So there was really something going on.
Speaker 1: He was inside of his own head last year. Speaking
Speaker 1: of catchers that are going in the wrong direction, I
Speaker 1: can get behind him though, more so than a kid
Speaker 1: Buster pose and that's that's why one is getting lat
Speaker 1: seller said he likes the value of Buster posey. Where
Speaker 1: he's going now, you said you cannot do it? Why,
Speaker 1: It's exactly what I mentioned. Um I basically put him
Speaker 1: side by side with Joe Mauer and a lot of
Speaker 1: the numbers. Um, we're exactly the same. You know, since
Speaker 1: since home runs that was that that was the last
Speaker 1: time we saw over twenty home runs out of Buster
Speaker 1: Posey is isolated power in every season since then, it
Speaker 1: was one, then it went down to two. Last year.
Speaker 1: You can argue that he might have been hampered by
Speaker 1: the hip issue. All all year his isolated power dropped
Speaker 1: to one over under one. He was at point zero
Speaker 1: nine eight. The slugging percentage was at three two. He
Speaker 1: hit only five home runs in one hundred and five games.
Speaker 1: So I'll never doubt that he is a good source
Speaker 1: of batting average. He's one of the one of them,
Speaker 1: the better, maybe one of the best hitting catchers. Definitely
Speaker 1: that I've seen in my life. You can probably go
Speaker 1: as far as to say in baseball history. But then
Speaker 1: the power numbers are consistently dropping. Here we have evidence, um,
Speaker 1: the isolated power of the slugging percentage are dropping. Not
Speaker 1: a good hitter's ballpark. And the fact that he's coming
Speaker 1: off hip surgery. Man, I mean, this is a catcher
Speaker 1: who you know, constantly squatting and you know when we spoke,
Speaker 1: when we spoke to to dr A about this. He
Speaker 1: was also worried about this. He doesn't expect I was
Speaker 1: supposed you to be ready for opening day and and
Speaker 1: he he's looking more at the healthy to recover or
Speaker 1: the healthy to return time with Buster Posey as later
Speaker 1: on in the season, the fact that he's pushing himself
Speaker 1: to try and be ready for opening day because Buster
Speaker 1: pose he is telling people that he's gonna be ready
Speaker 1: for opening Day. That's gonna open up the risk for
Speaker 1: re injury, especially with a hip and being a catcher
Speaker 1: and everything else that comes with the catcher position. I
Speaker 1: understand you're getting him at a much later discount than
Speaker 1: than you're used to seeing at a Buster Posey. I
Speaker 1: can't do it. He will not be on any of
Speaker 1: my team's, not a single one. I'd rather. I'd rather
Speaker 1: wait three four rounds and take Danny Jansen, big buster post.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. You mentioned Danny. You made me
Speaker 1: a five minutes ago. You mentioned Danny Jansen, You mentioned
Speaker 1: Omar Devayaz earlier. What makes you like them as as
Speaker 1: late sleepers. So Danny Danson was actually one of the
Speaker 1: top catching prospects in baseball. He's gonna have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to play every single day now with the Toronto Blue
Speaker 1: Jays because they traded away Russell Martin. He had very
Speaker 1: good plate discipline in the miners, consistently over a chance
Speaker 1: to start the season in Toronto. Well, you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta look, he got a little taste last year. So
Speaker 1: Danny Janson played a little bit. But what if anybody
Speaker 1: else deserves taste last year? Yea Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I have you have the date that he's
Speaker 1: eligible to join A Friday, April twelve will be the
Speaker 1: earliest day, but it would be a little bit too
Speaker 1: obvious if they did it on the day of April.
Speaker 1: April thirteenth is the one that you're calling. Last year,
Speaker 1: I had the date written down. Man, not happen. But
Speaker 1: but Danny Danson's is getting back to him. Look, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be part of a an okay lineup. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: he hits in a good ballpark in Toronto. He hits
Speaker 1: in a good division in terms of other ballparks. He's
Speaker 1: gonna travel to go to Yankee Stadium, go to Fenway,
Speaker 1: go to Camden Yards. He gets to uh, he gets
Speaker 1: to have batting practice, he gets to, you know, hit
Speaker 1: off the tea when he faces the Baltimore Orioles, starting
Speaker 1: rotation consistently under fiftcent strike out right in the minors, um,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be like a two seventy ish
Speaker 1: hitter to sixty to seventy hitter with double digit home runs.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna hit like fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's more something like the twelve to fourteen home
Speaker 1: run range. But I think he could get there and
Speaker 1: uh and be like a two seventy hitter with a
Speaker 1: good ob P. So whether you're playing points League or
Speaker 1: you're playing ob P League, UM, I think Danny Jenson
Speaker 1: is gonna be uh, pretty pretty good bet there. What
Speaker 1: about Omar de virus So, Omar Narvaias is actually getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to start consistently for the first time here
Speaker 1: with with the with the Seattle Mariners. He's got some
Speaker 1: pretty drast six splits much better against right E's last
Speaker 1: year to thirty seven o p s against right handed
Speaker 1: pitching against lefties one five sixty six ops against left
Speaker 1: handed pitching, but last season to seventy four batting average
Speaker 1: in two twenty one games, a twelve percent walk rate,
Speaker 1: a seventeen percent strikeout rate. He's a he's a professional hitter, Greg.
Speaker 1: He hits a lot of line drives, he hits to
Speaker 1: all fields. He's a solid hitter. Two seventy five, walked
Speaker 1: a lot, didn't strike out all that much. He hit
Speaker 1: nine home runs in nineties seven games. If he has
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play one hundred and twenty run in
Speaker 1: thirty games with the Seattle Mariners this year, hit nine
Speaker 1: home runs in ninety seven games, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, twelve thirteen home runs and not kill your
Speaker 1: batting average. When we talk about the catcher positions, praise
Speaker 1: man crazy. You're trying to find second catchers and just
Speaker 1: don't hurt you. That's what Oldmartiner Vaias is. He's gonna
Speaker 1: hit two seventy with with twelve home run twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: home runs. Okay, that's all I've got, all right, and
Speaker 1: look at where he's going. Look, Oldmartiner Vaias real four
Speaker 1: break The rest of this dirt chief is your second,
Speaker 1: the rest of the Tier three Lannington Castillo Beef. I
Speaker 1: love big Beef. I can never get away from him.
Speaker 1: Mikes Nino will change a scenery. Guy. That's that's cool,
Speaker 1: you're getting picked one. He's the guy I would target
Speaker 1: as my second catch. I kind of like Carson Kelly's
Speaker 1: my second catcher. Give it a chance, and I know
Speaker 1: he's gonna play every day because the Arizona's gonna keep
Speaker 1: three catchers. But he was one of the major pieces
Speaker 1: here of the Paul Goldman deal. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: see what they have in him. So I kind of
Speaker 1: like Carson Kelly. He was supposed to be the next
Speaker 1: man up behind Yadla, so he learned from him a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's gonna be the starter for the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: To sixty nine or higher batting average in each of
Speaker 1: the past three seasons in the minor leagues, all to
Speaker 1: fourteen percent, walk great in each of the past two
Speaker 1: seasons in the minors as well, So pretty good play discipline.
Speaker 1: He's gonna walk un't. I don't expect much from him
Speaker 1: power wise, and its twelve home runs. But again, when
Speaker 1: you're trying to find a second catcher, greg in Rhodo,
Speaker 1: you just want to find a guy that doesn't hurt
Speaker 1: you all that much. Person Kelly, I not see him
Speaker 1: being one of those guys where he doesn't hurt you
Speaker 1: all that. That's kind of a guy like William's the studio.
Speaker 1: Did you see the video of him taking Jose Burrios
Speaker 1: deep yesterday? Season four? Burrios there it is. This dude
Speaker 1: gets up a lot of homers. Man. I remember the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks of the season. I picked this
Speaker 1: dude up because he was, like you so like a
Speaker 1: five percent walker in a five percent strikeout rate. It's
Speaker 1: Cooper walked three. He makes so much contact it will
Speaker 1: tell you a few other catchers that I'm targeting as
Speaker 1: my second character. Robinson Turinos not not gonna give you
Speaker 1: batting or whatever, but he's gonna hit close at Tony
Speaker 1: home runs in Houston. Who wants to walk with Alias
Speaker 1: Elias ds Remember the name Greg? Remember the name a studio.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start the year in the majors. Yeah,
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