Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February thirteenth, twenty twenty five. This is
Speaker 1: another edition of Football Today, presented to you by Captain Morgan,
Speaker 1: the official Spice Drum of the NFL. My dudes, we're
Speaker 1: all back together. Bobby Skinner, Justin Pennock, Chris Rose, producer
Speaker 1: Connor putting it all together. Bobby, I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you. Saw Justin Pennock down there at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I know I wasn't on Monday Show obviously with the
Speaker 1: travel back and everything else. But Pennick had a chance
Speaker 1: to meet missus Rose. So now we're going to have
Speaker 1: to have you meet Missus Rose at some point too.
Speaker 2: Well, did you get the wedding invite? Sorry? That was mean. No.
Speaker 2: I tried to score with you for a second.
Speaker 1: No, dude, I thought maybe I was going to Spain.
Speaker 1: Isn't that where we're getting married? Oh wait, it's Florida.
Speaker 1: It's the same place.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe you know, maybe one day we'll all
Speaker 2: move there. Okay, but yeah I got to meet missus Rose. Well,
Speaker 2: I was meeting mister Pennock, even though you've met him
Speaker 2: a bunch of times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, for her, it was probably the most memorable
Speaker 1: part of going to New Orleans in Super Bowl fifty nine. Like,
Speaker 1: if she were to rank it, it certainly wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the game. It might be like he might be somewhere
Speaker 1: in between the post Malone concert and having dinner at
Speaker 1: our niece's house. So pettic. At least you made the list, buddy, what.
Speaker 2: You think of the halftime show?
Speaker 1: I thought it. I think she thought it was fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not. Why do you try to be a shitster?
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Because I watched Instagram reels and then I'm as on
Speaker 2: Twitter and it's very funny because Twitter is like that
Speaker 2: you don't understand it, and then Instagram is making fun
Speaker 2: of the you don't understand the people. I kind of
Speaker 2: side with Instagram, like it's not for me. Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't like it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Not everybody has to like everything, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think people love the Rolling Stones when they
Speaker 1: played there, like a decade and a half ago or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's fine except Chris Rose.
Speaker 2: Everybody has to like Chris Rose.
Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true. You should check social
Speaker 1: media on that one. All right, we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: fun show coming up. We're gonna touch on the AFC.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break it down in terms of what has
Speaker 1: to happen for every team, what should they want in
Speaker 1: the offseason. It could be an individual move, it could
Speaker 1: be something that has to happen with their coaching from
Speaker 1: something that has to happen for this team in order
Speaker 1: for like twenty twenty five to be a success or
Speaker 1: at least get point in the right direction. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do that in just a second, But first let's start
Speaker 1: with this. Kellen Moore has a new job. He was
Speaker 1: Philly's oc during the Super Bowl run. He is now
Speaker 1: new Orleans head coach Bobby Is this a going to
Speaker 1: be a smashing success or he just kind of meh
Speaker 1: on the move?
Speaker 2: I think Kellen Moore is as mad as a coach
Speaker 2: as there is. Obviously he's offense coordinator for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Is that just because of the way he looks? Is
Speaker 1: that what you're doing?
Speaker 2: No? I mean it's it's I've watched the Cowboys offenses.
Speaker 2: Obviously the Chargers got fired mostly because you know, got
Speaker 2: fired because he was what they're with Brandon Staley. But
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think anybody was super impressed with
Speaker 2: what he did that year with Justin Herbert. I think, like,
Speaker 2: tell me, like what part of his offensive game planning
Speaker 2: really just blows you away. I Mean they hand they
Speaker 2: run the ball really well, which with Saquon Barkley in
Speaker 2: that offensive line, and they they get one on ones
Speaker 2: for aj Brown. Like I was much more impressed with
Speaker 2: the way Shane Stiken had that Eagles offense than Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2: I think he is middle of the road, But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I think it's a solid enough higher
Speaker 2: for the Saints, who are an undesirable location to go
Speaker 2: to with all of the dead cap and how they're
Speaker 2: going to fix that. A GM who's been there for
Speaker 2: twenty plus years, a quarterback who you really can't get
Speaker 2: rid of in Derek Carr. But it's not that good
Speaker 2: defense to that is you know, lacking players up front,
Speaker 2: Like it's not it's not a fun situation in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Like their best player on offense is extremely injury prone.
Speaker 2: And Chris Chris o'love.
Speaker 3: You know, I will say if I am a Saints
Speaker 3: fan and I'm watching that Super Bowl, I am I
Speaker 3: am a little bit jazzed up, being like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: this is a guy that just kind of outdueled Steve Spagnolo. Now,
Speaker 3: obviously you have the impact of Saquon Barkley, and you
Speaker 3: know you have all those linebackers and safeties with their
Speaker 3: eyes in the backfield, like on that DeVante Smith long
Speaker 3: touchdown in the second half. You know that's play action
Speaker 3: and all the eyes are in the backfield. And then
Speaker 3: Stevante Smith won on one. So you know, you look
Speaker 3: at it, but like, oh, it's simple stuff. But I
Speaker 3: very much could have seen a world where Kellen Moore
Speaker 3: runs the same old predictable stuff and Steve Spagnolo had
Speaker 3: him figure it out and then the Chiefs kind of
Speaker 3: take over that game and win. And that absolutely did
Speaker 3: not happen. So if I'm a Saints game, I'm seeing
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore call that game against Steve spag Nolan, one
Speaker 3: of the best defense coordinators all time, one of the best,
Speaker 3: the most successful defensive coordinators all time, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, you just did it in my home stadium.
Speaker 3: Welcome Kellen Moore, and we'll see what we got. The
Speaker 3: Saints have more of a conversation to like, what are
Speaker 3: we going to be as a franchise. I think that's
Speaker 3: honestly like the biggest question that they need to answer
Speaker 3: this offseason, more than Kellen Moore, more than what do
Speaker 3: they do at quarterback? It's like, all right, well, we're
Speaker 3: at a fork in the road because we've done all
Speaker 3: this stuff with the salary and all this stuff with
Speaker 3: pushing guys back, like Alfa Kamara has like a thirty
Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit. Are we gonna eat it? And
Speaker 3: are we gonna kind of live in this bad world
Speaker 3: for a second or are we going to continue to
Speaker 3: operate business as usual and backload contracts, backload contracts and
Speaker 3: try and kind of like this win now thing. That's
Speaker 3: more of the more pressing question for the Saints.
Speaker 1: If you're to rank the thirty two teams in terms
Speaker 1: of one being most interesting in thirty two being leased,
Speaker 1: they're pretty damn close to thirty two because there's even
Speaker 1: some bad teams, Like you could take my team for instance,
Speaker 1: that is interesting. You've got their best player ever defensively
Speaker 1: requesting a trade. They're trying to figure out how to
Speaker 1: do the quarterback. If you look at the new Owns Saints,
Speaker 1: you're like, ye, like, I think that's my perfect reaction,
Speaker 1: and I think Ellen Moore kind of fits into that
Speaker 1: category and only shaking his hand once. He seems like
Speaker 1: a really, really nice person. The biggest question I think
Speaker 1: we all have is something that we don't know about,
Speaker 1: which is what is he going to be like when
Speaker 1: he has to stand in front of a room full
Speaker 1: of dudes and lead them right? You could see a
Speaker 1: little bit with Ben Johnson he was more than just
Speaker 1: this cute play caller, like when he got in front
Speaker 1: of the microphone in Chicago. There's a lot of swagger
Speaker 1: with him right now. When Kevin O'Connell went up to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: he looks like a fricking head. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have ever stood near him, seen him on
Speaker 1: the sideline. That is a giant man. Kellen Moore looks
Speaker 1: like he could hide in a cubicle during tech season
Speaker 1: and you know crush accounting, Like that's a little bit
Speaker 1: what it looks like. So I think the questions we've
Speaker 1: got most about him are the ones that we won't
Speaker 1: see or have answers to until either he's successful or
Speaker 1: not successful. I think that's kind of the point here.
Speaker 2: And he's left handed. I think the I'm a lefty too,
Speaker 2: but I love watching at Boys State I saw that
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders broke the college completion percentage record and people
Speaker 2: were bragging about that, and it's like, yes, second place
Speaker 2: is Colt Brandon Rustlin Prieze, third place Kellen Moore. So
Speaker 2: he's to be a great fifth round pick. Anyways, I
Speaker 2: think the hires man or a lot right. It seems
Speaker 2: like Brandon Staley may be the favorite to get the
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator job. I don't know if I love that,
Speaker 2: especially with their personality. They don't really have the guys
Speaker 2: up front to run a Brandon Staley defense the way
Speaker 2: it probably should be operated. I think of the staff matters.
Speaker 2: And again, the more interesting the thing with the New
Speaker 2: Orleans is what are they going to do with team building?
Speaker 2: Because to continue to do it the same way they've
Speaker 2: done it is just it's yeah, you're what are you
Speaker 2: trying to accomplish it?
Speaker 1: Except that Mickey Loomis is still the guy making the calls.
Speaker 1: He's been doing it for almost twenty five years, So
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we mean? What what's he going
Speaker 1: to do? Why would they vary from what they have done?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Why would they is because they should? But I agree
Speaker 2: with you, I don't. I don't I don't believe that
Speaker 2: they will, like you said, because it's the same guy
Speaker 2: like that's been doing it for all those years. So
Speaker 2: what what type of signal of change?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I think they extended Alvin Camorrow when it felt like
Speaker 2: that was going to end this offseason. So like what again?
Speaker 2: Like like you just said, Rose, why would they Yep?
Speaker 1: Okay, So now we're going to get down to the
Speaker 1: wish list for each NFL team, basically the biggest priority
Speaker 1: this offseason, something that can get you pointed in the
Speaker 1: right direction if it actually happens, and we're going to
Speaker 1: just focus on the AFC team. So we're going to
Speaker 1: go in reverse draft order, Pennick, you and I are
Speaker 1: going to do five teams apiece. But because Bobby is
Speaker 1: the biggest football head we know, Bobby, are you okay
Speaker 1: to do six teams? Are you all right with that?
Speaker 2: I am no Hay Arnold, but I am a football head.
Speaker 1: Okay. I guess I'll bat leadoff since you all gave
Speaker 1: me the Titans, right, I guess I'll go first. All right?
Speaker 2: I have that in the halftime show.
Speaker 1: Stop trying to convince yourself that Will Levis is the
Speaker 1: dude I think we're just about all the way there, right,
Speaker 1: Mike Borgonzi is the guy that's that's coming in and
Speaker 1: taking over for ran carthin as the GM. Now, he
Speaker 1: did say early on, we will not pass on a
Speaker 1: generational talent at one. From everything we're being told, that
Speaker 1: does not mean that we're going to take cam warders Sanders, right.
Speaker 1: Nobody thinks that those are generational talents. There are people
Speaker 1: that think that they can be starting quarterbacks, high end,
Speaker 1: maybe decent quarterbacks, and perhaps playoff winning quarterbacks if everything
Speaker 1: falls the right way. But they have to go this direction.
Speaker 1: They have to find their next dude in the building
Speaker 1: because even when they have made the playoffs over the
Speaker 1: last ten twelve years, it's been Ryan Tannehill and Marcus Mariota,
Speaker 1: and those guys haven't been good enough. So you know what,
Speaker 1: I would say, take your chance on cam Ward. I
Speaker 1: would say, go do it. Don't give me the whole
Speaker 1: generational talent thing. Let's not say that because that's not
Speaker 1: what he is. But at the same time, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the second best quarterback in franchise history, and this is
Speaker 1: dating back to their days in Houston, Warren Moon was
Speaker 1: the best, and then Steve Air McNair when he was
Speaker 1: drafted third overall the year that he came out in
Speaker 1: ninety five. I believe he came from Division two alcorn State,
Speaker 1: and those were the big questions. Can he step up
Speaker 1: big time and play against NFL talent well with cam
Speaker 1: Ward who played at three different schools including Incarnate Ward.
Speaker 1: Can he get it done? I say, screw it, go
Speaker 1: for it. Just convince yourself that he's the right guy.
Speaker 1: Just make the pick, please, That's what I would say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we'll get the answer on the Titans
Speaker 2: in free agency because if they're not drafting a quarterback
Speaker 2: or they plan on trading down, then you they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to spend a decent amount of money on whatever
Speaker 2: quarterback and free agency if that's Sam Darnold or whoever,
Speaker 2: like you said that Will Levis cannot be the plan
Speaker 2: like he can be the backup at best here. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see what they do. Again. That
Speaker 2: generational line I thought was taken a little too far.
Speaker 2: It's been me an hour trying to find it. By
Speaker 2: the way, it was on some random radio show, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree, they got to kind of figure out what
Speaker 2: they're doing at quarterback.
Speaker 1: All right, Pennick, you're up next to my Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: who are drafting second.
Speaker 3: All right, So this is kind of like a two
Speaker 3: pronged approach that I have for the Browns, because I
Speaker 3: think I would be okay with either of these. Either
Speaker 3: embrace kind of like a full tank and a full
Speaker 3: rebuild by trading away Miles Garrett and the number two
Speaker 3: pick and and.
Speaker 1: Oh god, or.
Speaker 3: Convince Miles Garrett to stay and take up to a
Speaker 3: Carter with the second overall pick, and holy smokes, I
Speaker 3: don't know what that offense looks like. But is that
Speaker 3: a defense? I mean, the defense is still fun for
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, but is that a defense that is
Speaker 3: getting getting some eyeballs looked at it? Because it is?
Speaker 3: Because that would be an awesome defense.
Speaker 1: I would like to go b please on that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot. We've been through too many unintentional
Speaker 1: tanks in Cleveland. I cannot do that. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: but please don't make that happen, please, because there's no
Speaker 1: guarantee that whatever quarterback comes next, if it's Arch Manning
Speaker 1: or somebody else a will even be there. If you
Speaker 1: luck into a couple extra wins. You could be sitting
Speaker 1: sixth and set a first and there's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great. We just don't know that stuff.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought Trevor Lawrence was going to be incredible. Guess
Speaker 1: what his team's drafting fifth this year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree that the idea of if of like,
Speaker 2: oh well, we can wait next year to get a quarterback.
Speaker 2: My thing is just if you think a quarterbacks where
Speaker 2: they have it, take it. If you don't, like, don't
Speaker 2: think about like, never pass up on someone that you
Speaker 2: think is franchise worthy because remember what was the last
Speaker 2: team that was told to do that, The Texans and
Speaker 2: they ended up getting CJ. Strouds. So I think that
Speaker 2: ended up working out with them. But I mean, you're
Speaker 2: a Browns fan, what is your course of action? What's
Speaker 2: your wish? I know you don't have this team, but like,
Speaker 2: what would you be your wishless?
Speaker 1: Well, they have to figure out what's going on with Miles.
Speaker 1: They have to, and it's easy to say, well, he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be here. It's the beginning of February game.
Speaker 1: We don't play a football game for seven months, so
Speaker 1: there is a lot of time to figure this out,
Speaker 1: to get him an extension, to try and say, hey, listen, dude,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks that this has been consistently three and fourteen.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been all right since Stefanski and Barry took over.
Speaker 1: And Andrew Barry does have his shortcomings when it comes
Speaker 1: to the draft. His record is not good, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't been consistent three and fourteen. This was this was
Speaker 1: the outlier during the Stefanski Bary era. It really has
Speaker 1: been right. They've been to the playoffs twice. They had
Speaker 1: an eight and nine season, they had a seven and
Speaker 1: ten season. Three and fourteen was horrible. But let's not
Speaker 1: act like this is what it's been year after year
Speaker 1: after year for the last five because that's not it's
Speaker 1: just not accurate.
Speaker 3: I have a secondary of spin speaking of Stefanski, and
Speaker 3: I have a secondary goal for the Browns and specifically
Speaker 3: for him him now, Bobby and Rose. I remember there
Speaker 3: was one point where we were talking about Kevin Stefanski
Speaker 3: and his rushing schemes and his run schemes, as like
Speaker 3: this is one of the most elaborate, awesome stuff in
Speaker 3: the NFL. And with the you know, acquiring Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3: We've gone away from that. We've gone away from heavy personnel,
Speaker 3: We've gone away from running the ball, running an offense
Speaker 3: through Nick Chubb. Now, I don't know what this stage
Speaker 3: in Nick Chubb's I don't know if you can do that,
Speaker 3: but I think, you know, if you invest properly at
Speaker 3: running back and offensive line, I think you can kind
Speaker 3: of get back to that. I want Kevin Stefanski to
Speaker 3: get back to what made him initially successful with the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns and why the Cleveland Browns initially were a
Speaker 3: spot that wanted to make such an aggressive trade for
Speaker 3: a quarterback like Deshaun Watson. You figured, oh, they can
Speaker 3: make that trade because of the infrastructure that they have,
Speaker 3: and then the offense just needed that quarterback to kind
Speaker 3: of take him over the top. That's my challenge for
Speaker 3: Stefanski this year. Scrap this eleven personnel stuff. Let's get
Speaker 3: some more tight ends on the field. It's got some
Speaker 3: more offensive linemen on the field. Let's start running the
Speaker 3: damn ball again, because that's where the NFL is too.
Speaker 1: Well. They did that to appease to Shawn. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I don't know that for a fact where they brought
Speaker 1: in a new OC and Kevin Stefanski, he goes down.
Speaker 1: He's going down calling the plays he wants and I
Speaker 1: think you'll see a difference in that. Yeah, let's move on.
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots have the fourth pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: Bobby Skinner, what's the wish list?
Speaker 2: This is the team that I think most reasonably can
Speaker 2: accomplish the things on their wish list because they have
Speaker 2: Drake May build the offensive line, whether that's not just
Speaker 2: signs in free agency or the draft. They just sign
Speaker 2: in free agency. Attack it with the fourth pick. If
Speaker 2: you don't like the value at the fourth pick, and
Speaker 2: you know, you know you don't want to pass up
Speaker 2: on Carter or Hunter, trade back because you need to
Speaker 2: protect that asset and let that asset and Drake May thrive.
Speaker 2: And here's why I'm not talking about wide receiver when
Speaker 2: it comes to being the number one, because I think
Speaker 2: wide receiver they should be able to take care of.
Speaker 2: If there is one team that you say, go spend
Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars on t Higgins, it is the
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. His skill set fits with Drake May's
Speaker 2: twenty six years old. They have the most cap space
Speaker 2: in the NFL one hundred, one hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 2: Use it. And then when you draft, when you signed
Speaker 2: to Higgins, go try and get your wide receiver too,
Speaker 2: and free agency as well. You know a Darius Slayton
Speaker 2: from the New York Giants, make him your wide receiver too.
Speaker 2: Spend the more money there. Let Pop Douglas be your slot,
Speaker 2: and then just set yourself up for the draft to
Speaker 2: go heavy, heavy, heavy in the trenches like I would
Speaker 2: spend free agency, you know, hitting some of the glamour
Speaker 2: spots and then allowing ourselves in the draft to go heavy, heavy,
Speaker 2: heavy in the trenches.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, it's the old adage. If you don't
Speaker 1: have the right quarterback coach combination, you're screwed. I do
Speaker 1: think that they've got both guys that can lead them
Speaker 1: to a promise. Land I really feel that much goodwill
Speaker 1: toward Drake may I called two of their games this
Speaker 1: past season. I'm honest when I say I think that
Speaker 1: was the worst offensive line and wide receiver rooms I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2: And you knew it going into the year. At least
Speaker 2: with the offensive line, the receiver room that had some
Speaker 2: young guys, And I you know, I like Pop Douglas
Speaker 2: as like a flexible player. It was bad, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was a mess. He was able to
Speaker 2: survive that build build around Drake May as as the
Speaker 2: as the goal of this offseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, I do I think that
Speaker 1: they can close the gap significantly on Buffalo in that division.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that they can go. They
Speaker 1: might be able to get seven or eight wins next
Speaker 1: year depending if they if they hit this right now,
Speaker 1: the question is do you believe in Elliott Wolf being
Speaker 1: able to do this. I don't.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Rose is if they do do
Speaker 2: like my wishless plan for them, I'm picking them to
Speaker 2: make a wild card run. I really, I really am.
Speaker 2: Because there is that defense I think can be coached
Speaker 2: up better than what it was last year. It has talent.
Speaker 2: You have Drake May and then you add that offensive
Speaker 2: talent around and Vrabel's a good coach, McDaniel's commune, a
Speaker 2: great coordinator with the right quarterback. I am picking them
Speaker 2: to be a wildcard team. If they accomplished my wish list.
Speaker 2: At the offensive line, they just add two pieces and
Speaker 2: you know wide receiver, they kind of get better but
Speaker 2: not great. Then I'm not picking them. But do my
Speaker 2: wish list. Patriots, you got the money to do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna move back to me. And I've got
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars who have the fifth pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: They just like the Patriots. They went four and thirteen.
Speaker 1: I've got a new coach, right, so do all due?
Speaker 1: Did I do that right?
Speaker 2: That was good?
Speaker 1: That's horrible. I'm not gonna sit here and say, well,
Speaker 1: I'm wishing for good health for the quarterback. I got
Speaker 1: that all right. This team actually has some talent. It
Speaker 1: was embarrassing that they got only four wins a season ago.
Speaker 1: It was, to me, actually borderline disgraceful. The one thing
Speaker 1: they've got to just fix entirely is the secondary. They
Speaker 1: got to figure this out. They were far away the
Speaker 1: worst passing defense in the NFL. They only got six interceptions.
Speaker 1: So the wish for them, in my opinion, is that
Speaker 1: somehow Travis Hunter falls to them at five. I don't
Speaker 1: see a way that that can happen right now, but
Speaker 1: that's what they need because they could sprinkle him in
Speaker 1: on offense, they put them in on defense. Whatever it is. However,
Speaker 1: you want to figure that out. If that doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it will. Some team has to
Speaker 1: love Shador Sanders enough to jump over the Raiders who
Speaker 1: are at six in the draft. They have to hope
Speaker 1: and pray that that happens. That they can then move
Speaker 1: back and maybe draft like Will Johnson out of Michigan
Speaker 1: because their secondary has got to get better. But I
Speaker 1: like most of the talent on this team. I look
Speaker 1: at the other teams in the top five and they
Speaker 1: are beref the talent. In most cases. That is not
Speaker 1: the case with Jacksonville. But god damn fix the secondary.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, was at horrible, horrible, horrific. So there you go,
Speaker 1: that's what they need. I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two years ago they really like I think they
Speaker 3: just banked on Oh wow, look at our defense. Look
Speaker 3: at how good that Look at how good that it is.
Speaker 3: You know, they had a really good record through through
Speaker 3: the month of November and the December they fell apart
Speaker 3: two years ago, so I think they kind of just
Speaker 3: banked on head again to next year. They lost key
Speaker 3: secondary pieces and then just banked on all, Well, the
Speaker 3: defense is going to be good again, and it absolutely
Speaker 3: was not. Oh and just also hoping that Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 3: would stay healthy, which he did not, but the season
Speaker 3: fell apart for them even before that anyway.
Speaker 1: And by the way, is treymon Walker going to be
Speaker 1: the most non descript, semi productive number one overall pick
Speaker 1: ever because he's had back to back double digit SAX
Speaker 1: seasons and you haven't even noticed it, right.
Speaker 2: That's because he's in douve all. He's a solid player.
Speaker 2: He's a solid player. It is very weird where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not all these traits, he's not gonna get production,
Speaker 2: and he's got decent production, but it's still like not, well,
Speaker 2: you know, even the best, the people who liked them
Speaker 2: at the number one O, we're all picking vision for him.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, but that JA. I think that Jags,
Speaker 2: like you said, they get that secondary right, They've got
Speaker 2: pieces on that front stete where they could have a
Speaker 2: little fun defensively, and then you obviously have Lawrence and
Speaker 2: Thomas and all that jazz.
Speaker 1: So uh, you got the Raiders panic I do.
Speaker 3: This is going to probably be my most vague, my
Speaker 3: vague wishless item for the Raiders because.
Speaker 2: I just feel like they need everything.
Speaker 3: They need everything now the Raiders, they've been one of
Speaker 3: the phases of instability over the last two decades. Trivia
Speaker 3: the last time they had a head coach last for
Speaker 3: four straight seasons without being fired. Do you guys know.
Speaker 1: Byern or traded? Because what ear was Gruden traded Rose?
Speaker 3: That is a very very good follow up question because
Speaker 3: it is John Gruden during his first tenure with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: And yes, so I least head coach to last four
Speaker 3: straight seasons, whether it is via Trader being what via being.
Speaker 1: Still that's a long time man. That's twenty five years.
Speaker 3: Ninety eight to two thousand and one. I think that
Speaker 3: was the tenure. Wow, so that's a last time that
Speaker 3: a coach lasted four straight years for them. My biggest
Speaker 3: wish to sign him for them, for the for the
Speaker 3: Oakland National Las Vegas Raiders is to set a foundation
Speaker 3: for stability. Very vague John spy Tech's coming out from
Speaker 3: the Bucks. They take pride in drafting, developing, and retaining.
Speaker 3: I think those the third part's most important. Spy Tech
Speaker 3: also has a reputation for really involving the coaches and
Speaker 3: personnel decisions, letting them have their input. Cool to see
Speaker 3: that Patrick Graham is still sticking around.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: You know, Patrick Graham was about to stick around with
Speaker 3: the Giants after Joe Judge was fired, stuck around with
Speaker 3: the Raiders, so I love to see that. I think
Speaker 3: Graham's just a glue guy. Hopefully he gets a head
Speaker 3: coaching job one day, and then obviously if Chip Kelly
Speaker 3: is off, its coordinator. So spy Tech really big on
Speaker 3: kind of letting the coaches really have a say on
Speaker 3: personnel and drafting decisions, and obviously the biggest question for
Speaker 3: the Raiders is QB and spy Tech had this to
Speaker 3: say about Pete Carroll and the Seahawks finding Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: I always admired the way that they started in Seattle
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position, in particular, they just kept taking
Speaker 3: shots and shots and shots. By Tick said, they traded
Speaker 3: and drafted guys high. They found their way to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: What an unbelievable move that was. He was a little
Speaker 3: bit different. He was under six feet at the time
Speaker 3: when most quarterbacks were over six feet, so they were
Speaker 3: willing to think outside the box a little bit. Spy
Speaker 3: Tech is also coming from the organization that signed Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: Obviously that was a no brainer decision, but you know,
Speaker 3: not the conventional drafter quarterback develop and retain him. So
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders, even if they make some outside
Speaker 3: the box moves, whether it is being aggressive and going
Speaker 3: after a quarterback like a Sam Darnold, whether that is
Speaker 3: if the Giants wind up passing on like a shirdor
Speaker 3: Sanders drafting Sarder Sanders, but you're a draft pick. So
Speaker 3: and even if they don't even find an answer at quarterback,
Speaker 3: making certain moves on the roster to just find some
Speaker 3: sort of stability. Whether you want to be aggressive or
Speaker 3: not be aggressive, I don't know. But the Raiders they've
Speaker 3: been the face of instability over the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: Whatever decisions they need to make, they need to make
Speaker 3: them together and on the page between front office and
Speaker 3: coaching staff, it was.
Speaker 2: Very vague get better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I but fellas like I can't sit here
Speaker 3: and say like I want the Raiders to be aggressive
Speaker 3: and get this person. I want the Raiders to be
Speaker 3: conservative because the Washington Commanders kind of taught me something
Speaker 3: this this past offseason where they were semi aggressive, like
Speaker 3: in free agency when I said, oh, I don't think
Speaker 3: you should, Like, what why are you going out and
Speaker 3: signing all these veterans? And then you see like all
Speaker 3: these guys are glue guys to go on a little
Speaker 3: bit of a playoff run. So the Raiders kind of
Speaker 3: need so much. I just feel like whatever they decide
Speaker 3: to do as an organization this year, it needs to
Speaker 3: make sure that they do it together. Yeah, and now
Speaker 3: like this, this guy's voice is stronger than.
Speaker 2: The other one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what Washington's game plan was doesn't mean shit if
Speaker 1: Sam Howe is still the quarterback. Let's be honest here,
Speaker 1: And I think last year when we did the quarterback rankings,
Speaker 1: we talked about how the Raiders had the worst quarterback
Speaker 1: game play and moving forward because they didn't have a
Speaker 1: game plan. Right, it was Gardner, Minshew and O'Connell. Right,
Speaker 1: that's not like that's not a game plan that's not
Speaker 1: thinking about the future. It wasn't even thinking about twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. So it starts with this and Spytech who,
Speaker 1: by the way, it just sounds like a startup every
Speaker 1: time we mention his name, So I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're going to know by his first name or what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so I don't know they're they're a mess,
Speaker 1: but good job by you, even if it is vague.
Speaker 1: I liked it all right, Bobby Jets, fix the Jets
Speaker 1: wish list.
Speaker 2: It's so simple that it's tough. Mature of the team
Speaker 2: and build a culture. Right, you're bringing in Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 2: former Jet from the Dan Campbell Tree, get go, get
Speaker 2: buy in from your stars and Saft Gardner, Garret Wilson
Speaker 2: and Quinn and Williams. Right Like, that's because you look
Speaker 2: at this team and outside of quarterback and offensive line,
Speaker 2: what are the positions that were like, oh man, they're
Speaker 2: just so weak here. And even offensive line, you have
Speaker 2: Olu and Tipman who are young pieces. Av played fifteen
Speaker 2: games this year, but I don't know if you can
Speaker 2: bet on that every year going forward. And then the
Speaker 2: obviously one is find another QB to go with Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 2: because I'm fine with Tyrod Taylor as a bridge starter
Speaker 2: for a year, but he's too injury prone. You can't
Speaker 2: rely on him. And but you have to find this
Speaker 2: quarterback without drafting one on Day two or Day three,
Speaker 2: because you don't want to draft a bad quarterback, which
Speaker 2: is basically what every day two and day three quarterback
Speaker 2: is for your fan base and your dumbass owner. Whatdy
Speaker 2: Johnson to be asking for you to start? Okay, you
Speaker 2: already was sho you to pick on Jordan Travis. Don't
Speaker 2: do it on another player.
Speaker 1: I think he will change the culture. Once again, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen a quarterback tyrod and
Speaker 1: you nailed it. You can't rely on him.
Speaker 2: It's just well, think about this team. This was the
Speaker 2: team that was seven and ten two years in a row,
Speaker 2: and then it fell out last year. They're getting rid
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers. You get buy in and get that defense,
Speaker 2: which is very talent, and you get another quarterback to
Speaker 2: go next to Tyrold, maybe even Tyrol's just a backup,
Speaker 2: and you get someone else as a starter who's just
Speaker 2: like an NFL player, who you can rely on to
Speaker 2: start games. That's another team that can you know, reel
Speaker 2: off some wins. Not gonna be much of a threat
Speaker 2: without that quarterback answer, but can at least, like I said,
Speaker 2: reel off some wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just today. Look we look at the division
Speaker 1: you just mentioned earlier that if the Patriots go with
Speaker 1: your wish list. You think that there'll be a wildcard team.
Speaker 1: I think that if it's Tyrod and nobody else at quarterback,
Speaker 1: this isn't a wild card team.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it is either.
Speaker 1: So they'll just continue the longest playoff drout we got
Speaker 1: going in the NFL. Yes, oh man, that's tough.
Speaker 2: By the way, Lions kept that drought going, you know
Speaker 2: when they first got Campbell and friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it, I get it. But at
Speaker 1: least the Lions had been to the playoffs with Stafford
Speaker 1: right in recent years when they got him.
Speaker 2: So it's been a while, been over like five years.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, I'm gonna do the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and I will say this, change the attitude that everybody
Speaker 1: thinks you're soft, like you have to be in a
Speaker 1: controlled environment in order to win football games. They run
Speaker 1: the ball great, but we don't think they're physical. Their
Speaker 1: defense has some players, we just don't think they're that tough.
Speaker 1: So start with that mentality. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's a coach thing an organizational thing, but when you
Speaker 1: think Miami Dolphins, like when you think Steelers or you
Speaker 1: think Ravens, you think tough like they you're like, goddamn,
Speaker 1: we're going into Baltimore, We're going into Pittsburgh. We gotta
Speaker 1: go play. It ain't gonna be easy. When you're like,
Speaker 1: you're going to Miami. Sweet might lose, but man, okay,
Speaker 1: it almost feels like you're playing flag football. So I
Speaker 1: would say this the two is stuff I get. I
Speaker 1: want them to try the backup quarterback position like it's
Speaker 1: a legit roster spot and not an afterthought for them.
Speaker 1: I also don't want Chris Greer drafting offensive lineman in
Speaker 1: the first two rounds. They need to, but he can't
Speaker 1: be the guy picking it. He just can't be Austin
Speaker 1: Jackson when he's out there is okay. He traded up
Speaker 1: for Liam Eikenberg, right, exactly like the best guy he's
Speaker 1: drafted was Robert Hunt and they let him walk. So
Speaker 1: don't let him do that. If anything, I go find
Speaker 1: an edge opposite Chop Robinson because Jalen Phillips is coming
Speaker 1: off his second straight major injury. Right, he had the achilles.
Speaker 1: Now he's got an acl I don't know if he'll
Speaker 1: you can ever rely on him. I would go get
Speaker 1: an edge at thirteen. You could probably get a really
Speaker 1: really good. One. Chop was great. The second half of
Speaker 1: the season, I'd start to establish an attitude like we
Speaker 1: want to be bad mfors instead of just yeah, we're
Speaker 1: cute Miami.
Speaker 3: Is Tyreek Hill going to be on the team next
Speaker 3: next year?
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't it seem like there's a like,
Speaker 2: wouldn't they be smart? Like this is going to become
Speaker 2: a toctic thing here this year?
Speaker 1: Yes, but what so what are you gonna do? You're
Speaker 1: gonna trade him for like a third second tops?
Speaker 2: I never see your trade market has gone low. But
Speaker 2: I feel like Tyreek Is would be the best receiver
Speaker 2: traded since.
Speaker 3: Tyreek Kill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, than Devonte Adams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Amari Cooper. Those by the way, these those trades
Speaker 1: did not work out this year for wide receivers.
Speaker 2: No, none of them did.
Speaker 1: None of them did.
Speaker 2: Now, Cooper was the random falloff where he's never missed
Speaker 2: games or anything, and then this year it just was
Speaker 2: not good.
Speaker 1: No, But I mean the guys that were traded before that,
Speaker 1: when you include like Adams from Green Bay to the Raiders,
Speaker 1: put up nice stats, no wins. Aj Brown obviously worked
Speaker 1: out great for Philadelphia Digs.
Speaker 2: He was a good one before you know, his first
Speaker 2: trader around. But it's just I'm talking about but when
Speaker 2: he got traded to the Bills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know these days. I just I think
Speaker 1: that's a dicey one. Man.
Speaker 3: I think Perry Hills contract was a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, on top of that.
Speaker 3: Twenty seven million this year and then he's got twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six, he's got fifty one. I mean they would
Speaker 3: have to you know, a team would have to work
Speaker 3: with it either extended. I don't even know, man. But
Speaker 3: then he's got void years, so that that's not a
Speaker 3: this is a we've pushed money back contract.
Speaker 1: So all right, up next, Pennic. If your wish list
Speaker 1: for uh, the Indianapolis Colts is anything other than Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 1: better be learning how to throw strikes in his backyard
Speaker 1: with a bullseye target. Then you're off base.
Speaker 3: Well it's related to Anthony Richison, but it's add another
Speaker 3: game changing weapon for Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: That he can overthrow by six miles.
Speaker 2: Oh, they just need more weapons there.
Speaker 3: Mock draft database has penn States tight end Tyler Warren
Speaker 3: as the overwhelming majority first round pick for the Colts.
Speaker 1: You know why that is, By the way, it's because
Speaker 1: he were forty four, just like Dallas Clark, Isn't that
Speaker 1: exactly it? And played at a Big ten school, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do like the you know, the consensus, uh you know,
Speaker 3: big boards and the because really it's a way for
Speaker 3: you know, thousands of thousands of media out outlets and
Speaker 3: also the thousands of thousands of mock drafts that you see.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of like a consensus of it. And
Speaker 3: and I like just seeing where where people's heads are at.
Speaker 3: So that's you know, who they have right now in
Speaker 3: the draft, that's the consensus popular pick right now. And
Speaker 3: then you also have t Higginson for agecent Like I
Speaker 3: think the Colts maybe should be a team that is aggressive,
Speaker 3: like and I'm partially saying this because the Colts were
Speaker 3: the teams that I desperately wanted to draft Brian Thomas
Speaker 3: last year. Like, I think, oh, this guy fits, this
Speaker 3: guy should fit what you know Chris Baller looks for
Speaker 3: in terms of big and athletic and strong, Like I
Speaker 3: thought Brian Thomas Junior was a guy was a prospect
Speaker 3: that was built in a lab for the Chris Baller types.
Speaker 3: And he passes on him and he goes a lot too.
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of like, hey, right, that wrong this
Speaker 3: past so offseason, now this is something that disappointed me.
Speaker 3: Like I thought Richardson was better than this. From Week
Speaker 3: eleven onward, out of thirty one quarterbacks that qualified, Richardson
Speaker 3: was twenty seventh out of thirty one quarterbacks and overall
Speaker 3: efficiency of like EPACPO week composite, I thought it was
Speaker 3: better than that. And there were only two games that
Speaker 3: he played from Week eleven onward that he completed like
Speaker 3: more than sixty percent of his passes. And again I
Speaker 3: thought he kind of got better in that department and
Speaker 3: it was not. So I think the Colts, like I
Speaker 3: think they need to like answer themselves, is Anthony Richison
Speaker 3: a guy that we really believe in? Number one? And
Speaker 3: if that answer is, I'm not so sure. This is
Speaker 3: a wait and see year. Do you really want to
Speaker 3: take a chance on like drafting a tight end in
Speaker 3: the first round or even going all out for t
Speaker 3: Higgins in in free agency? If you have a quarterback
Speaker 3: here that we don't even believe in. But if we
Speaker 3: have a quarterback here that we don't even believe even,
Speaker 3: why were these guys all retained. And that's the thing
Speaker 3: of the Indianapols culture.
Speaker 1: Right now, that's a great question. I mean, Chris Ballard,
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks has he run through since he's been there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: He goes through quarterbacks like most of us go through
Speaker 1: T shirts.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I have a lot of Christians in Ballard.
Speaker 2: I do with the quarterback thing is like what quarterback
Speaker 2: has he passed on that he should have went after.
Speaker 2: Besides like the revisionist history of like signing Baker Mayfield
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, he hasn't been in the position to go. I
Speaker 1: mean unless he wanted to trade up and go get somebody.
Speaker 2: And they did but it didn't workout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. But Anthony Richardson, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this. He completed less than forty eight
Speaker 1: percent of his passes. It's never been easier to complete
Speaker 1: a pass in the NFL ever.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I watched the Jets game and I'm like, oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I looked at the rest of the games
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, Okay, it wasn't awesome. It was better,
Speaker 3: believe it or not. It was better than what he
Speaker 3: was doing in the early part of the season, but
Speaker 3: it still was like, oh man.
Speaker 1: All right, Bobby, you're up next, Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: Keep your talent in the building. M you let guys
Speaker 2: like Jesse Bates and GJ. Reader walk re signed T Higgins,
Speaker 2: extend Chrey Hendrickson, and outside of those two things, build
Speaker 2: a defense with an image in mind. Okay, you know
Speaker 2: we talk about the Commanders. If they didn't Drafty and Daniels,
Speaker 2: none of their planer shit works out. But something we
Speaker 2: did say positively about the Commanders last offseason before we
Speaker 2: when we didn't think they're gonna be good at all,
Speaker 2: we thought there would be a bottom five team, is
Speaker 2: that this defense has been built in the image of
Speaker 2: dan Quinn. It's like a dan Quinn light defense where
Speaker 2: you get, you know, the Cowboys backup Edges. You had
Speaker 2: the two good defensive tackles there. You know, you get
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner and Frankie Luvu linebacker, bring in Jeremy Chin
Speaker 2: at safety, and their cornerback group was bad off Obviously
Speaker 2: weren't able to upgrade on that. But build a defense
Speaker 2: with an image of mind. You're not going to turn
Speaker 2: this defense into a top ten unit this offseason, but
Speaker 2: put together an image for it so that this offense
Speaker 2: can make you a super Bowl contender, because a middle
Speaker 2: of the pack defense would have made this team a
Speaker 2: super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1: My question is is how many Notre Dame defenders do
Speaker 1: the Bengals draft now that Al Golden is defensive court Golden.
Speaker 2: We are Golden. I remember it Miami, so so we'll
Speaker 2: we'll see. But yeah, build build an image, build a
Speaker 2: defense with an image in mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Do you want to do your Chargers here?
Speaker 1: And that'll get you why your favorite team? You were
Speaker 1: by the way, you nailed it. You nailed it. You said,
Speaker 1: the schedule is so simple, and you love Harbaugh and
Speaker 1: you got them to the playoffs. So good job by you.
Speaker 2: By one game off of my record prediction, people not you.
Speaker 2: You guys are actually more online with me than the consensus.
Speaker 2: It's like the one prediction I got right last year. Uh.
Speaker 2: You have three positions called wide receiver, tight end, and
Speaker 2: running back. To use premium resources on two of those
Speaker 2: three spots, you know I need to fix all three.
Speaker 2: Use premium what you could draft If you want to
Speaker 2: draft a running back in the first round, do it.
Speaker 2: If you want to draft a tight end in the
Speaker 2: first round. Do it and then obviously make a free
Speaker 2: agency piece. Make the run game great. That's that's one
Speaker 2: thing I was off. The run game there was not
Speaker 2: great with Greg Roman. It was the worst Greg Roman
Speaker 2: rushing offense. Uh, you know in his time as a
Speaker 2: play caller. And then my other wish list is trust
Speaker 2: Jesse Minner to find smart pieces for him and create
Speaker 2: a next in line for when he leaves to get
Speaker 2: a head coaching job next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their defense, I think is going to be okay
Speaker 1: that you know, they drafted a pair of fifth round
Speaker 1: corners that that played very well for them this year.
Speaker 2: Boy cam Hart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tarib still was great for them as well.
Speaker 1: He was the other fifth rounder. You know, outside of
Speaker 1: lad McConkie. They just don't have any consistency anywhere. Quentin Johnston,
Speaker 1: we thought maybe earlier in the year would get better
Speaker 1: and then he went back to Nelson Aguilar's status. They
Speaker 1: didn't have anything at the tight end. Will Disley had
Speaker 1: that career year for him, but he's not a weapon.
Speaker 1: They also have to get a little bit better in
Speaker 1: the interior of that offensive line. They've got the two
Speaker 1: great bookend tackles, but they're gonna be in good shape. Man.
Speaker 1: I like where the Chargers are. It was a stinker
Speaker 1: they had at the end of the season, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna be in good shape. Denver Broncos. So they're interesting, right.
Speaker 1: They had eighty five million in dead cap this year.
Speaker 1: They're going to drop that by fifty plus million dollars.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna be like, oh my god, it's like
Speaker 1: their uncle, their rich uncle just died and left them
Speaker 1: with all this dough. So what are they gonna do.
Speaker 1: I know that Sean Payton, but the wish list here
Speaker 1: is to curb the temptation to fill your roster with
Speaker 1: needs at tight end and running back right out the
Speaker 1: because those are both deep parts of this draft. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I would push that further down the line. It
Speaker 1: might be sexy, and I know that Sean Payton loves
Speaker 1: to have his toys around, right, but I would say
Speaker 1: keep kicking ass with that defense. Watch what just happened
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday with the Philadelphia Eagles, and they consistently
Speaker 1: add pass rushers in the draft. Denver led the NFL
Speaker 1: in sacks this year. Keep doing it. The one other
Speaker 1: thing on the wish list. Extend Nick Benito. You have to.
Speaker 1: He's heading into the fourth and final year of his
Speaker 1: rookie deal. Sirtanz. He's your defensive player of the year.
Speaker 1: He just got extended before this season. He's taken care of.
Speaker 1: Go take care of Nick Benito. He made huge, huge
Speaker 1: plays week after week the second half of the season.
Speaker 1: Pay him. He deserves some dough. Add another elite defender
Speaker 1: in the first round. Let's go Broncos.
Speaker 2: That thinks I got two things for you. The Patricks
Speaker 2: are tain Defensive Player of the Year. Reminded me that
Speaker 2: the NFL putting that on the Thursday before the super
Speaker 2: Bowl drives me nuts. That is something they Yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't get that. You just don't talk about it because
Speaker 2: then the super Bowl happened. So one change that if
Speaker 2: you want to do it end of the year, do
Speaker 2: it Pro Bowl week.
Speaker 1: Well number one, okay, they can't do it. Do you
Speaker 1: know why they do it the way they did because
Speaker 1: everybody everybody's at the super Bowl, so they want to.
Speaker 2: But don't put less value on that. People will be
Speaker 2: at the Pro Bowl too. Just they didn't used to
Speaker 2: do that. You don't even neither have.
Speaker 1: An award show you know, I'm gonna sit you down
Speaker 1: one day and explain to you the business of the NFL.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. It's that they're really running dry over
Speaker 2: there at the NFL. My number two is, uh, this
Speaker 2: was the most unconventional answer for the Broncos, but it's
Speaker 2: my favorite because you think, oh, the defense was awesome best,
Speaker 2: you know, number one ranked defense in the NFL, or
Speaker 2: number two, like, oh, just you know that's good. Now,
Speaker 2: let's read No, make keep making that defense stronger and
Speaker 2: stronger and stronger and stronger. Trust if you if you
Speaker 2: trust bow Nick, you can add pieces obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: add a wide receiver in the second round or whatever,
Speaker 2: but continue to make that defense stronger and stronger and stronger.
Speaker 2: I love that answer.
Speaker 1: Yes, I got one right on the test. It took
Speaker 1: me the entire year, the playoffs had passed Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but I finally nailed one answer that Bobby Skinner like,
Speaker 1: thank you, Well, that was.
Speaker 2: Just an unconven like most people would be like, oh,
Speaker 2: get bo Nick's a wide receiver one, when it's like, no,
Speaker 2: keep making that defense great.
Speaker 1: All right, Pennick, You're up next, Steelers.
Speaker 3: This is something that I've said on the show before
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it again. It's not gonna be the
Speaker 3: last time that I say it.
Speaker 2: Fire Mike Tomlin, Like that guy in New Orleans says.
Speaker 3: Shit, yeah, that was crazy. That guy like I went
Speaker 3: up with. I said nice, whatever, nice, he had a
Speaker 3: jersey or a shirt on whatever. Immediately fire Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa kids, Take it easy, man. Steelers signed
Speaker 3: Sam Donald. Now the question that you got to ask yourself.
Speaker 3: You gotta look at yourself in the mirror. If you're
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steeler, or really if you're any team that
Speaker 3: wants to go out and sign Sam Donald, you have
Speaker 3: to look at yourself in the mirror and say, you
Speaker 3: do know that if we signed Sam Donald, you are
Speaker 3: not going to get the same performance and the same
Speaker 3: exact same quarterback that you got last year when he
Speaker 3: was with the Vikings. Because it's not Kevin O'Connell who's
Speaker 3: calling plays and is the head coach. Probably don't have
Speaker 3: those tackles. And then number three, you don't have you
Speaker 3: don't have a Sam Donald thrown to Justin Jefferson in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Those are the three things that you gotta like, honestly,
Speaker 3: like assess, like when we're about to give this guy
Speaker 3: forty million dollars, that's where you gotta look at yourself
Speaker 3: in the mirror and inside. But I think the Steelers
Speaker 3: and Arthur Smith, I think Sam Donald fits what they're
Speaker 3: trying to do over their play action. Let's throw it deep.
Speaker 3: If George Pickens is still around, which I kind of
Speaker 3: hope that he is, hope that he gets his mind right.
Speaker 3: You know, it fits what they're trying to accomplish over
Speaker 3: there in Pittsburgh, Sam Donald does.
Speaker 2: I that's I would sign Aaron Rodgers. I would take
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and what he's going to command ten times
Speaker 2: out of ten for the I feel like that's.
Speaker 3: The opposite of what we're talking about that I think
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, Like I was listening to this you know
Speaker 3: Jets podcast. However, Rodgers didn't really run a very vertical
Speaker 3: offense this year and didn't really utilize Garrett Wilson, and
Speaker 3: you know, they're trying to run like fourteen plays for
Speaker 3: eighty two yards and you know, get seven points on
Speaker 3: the board. So I mean, you know, obviously the Steelers,
Speaker 3: they do like to run the ball, and they do
Speaker 3: like to play like the time of possession game. But
Speaker 3: they also like, you know, so Russell Wilson with the
Speaker 3: moonballs and how much that was an effective part does right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: But Sam Donald ken Ken do that has a good arm.
Speaker 2: I'm just not betting on Sam Darnal with a big contract.
Speaker 1: I think, sorry, go ahead, my bad.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not betting on Sam darn with a
Speaker 2: big contract, and especially not with the Steelers with their personnel.
Speaker 1: I think Sam Darland has too nice a hair to
Speaker 1: be in Pittsburgh. I think that's my overall assessment. Like,
Speaker 1: who is the last quarterback there that had a nice,
Speaker 1: full head of hair that like Ben always chopped it
Speaker 1: off us. Oh yeah, god, yeah, I guess so, huh,
Speaker 1: but you saw how that worked out. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: don't see it right. They're the best quarterback in franchise history,
Speaker 1: have the flow. Yeah yeah, but that was right when
Speaker 1: he got there, when he was no good and getting
Speaker 1: booed off.
Speaker 2: Had pretty good hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he was an insurance salesman in between
Speaker 1: his NFL quarterback gigs.
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, Big Ben had one of the best rookie
Speaker 2: seasons of all time, and it would have never happened
Speaker 2: if Tommy with Maddicks. Didn he get injured in week one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he took over in week two, like really
Speaker 1: good in terms of winning percentage. Didn't he go fourteen
Speaker 1: and one as a starter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he plays and that was place we statistically
Speaker 2: that was one of the best of rookie It wouldn't
Speaker 2: compared to rookies nowadays.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, but you're right, you're right, all right, Bobby.
Speaker 1: We got the bills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bills. So you're fourteen million dollars over the cap.
Speaker 2: Get cap your cap in line without touching your young
Speaker 2: pieces on the O line, D line, simple as that, right,
Speaker 2: you know, don't make any sacrifices of any of those
Speaker 2: young guys.
Speaker 1: And I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening. You know, they're big pending
Speaker 2: free agentcy with Seul Douglas and Amari Cooper. So but
Speaker 2: I will say, like Alan doesn't need a top ten
Speaker 2: wide receiver, but give give, give him someone that he
Speaker 2: can go to on third down other than Koliot here
Speaker 2: and and stop quarterback shneeking in the playoffs, that's another one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean those are all fair.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean they were one play away from
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. You know, they're, you know, a handful
Speaker 2: of decisions away from the Super Bowl, and I don't
Speaker 2: have this crazy they should do this when they're fourteen
Speaker 2: million dollars over the cap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're not going anywhere with with that
Speaker 1: monster under center. They're fine. I mean, they're in good
Speaker 1: shape there. Just get luckier. Supposed is that it. I Mean,
Speaker 1: it's weird to say, but that's kind of the way
Speaker 1: I feel. My last team is the Houston Texans, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. I've tried to stay away from the
Speaker 1: quarterback talk, but this one you have to because of
Speaker 1: the major step back it felt like CJ. Stroud had
Speaker 1: this season, and that is to get his mentals right
Speaker 1: and get him point in the right direction. He got
Speaker 1: sacked fifty two times. Fifty two times, and a lot
Speaker 1: of that pressure got right in his face, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if he got gun shy. He you know,
Speaker 1: the thing that we marveled about was the fact his
Speaker 1: rookie year he didn't turn the ball over and he
Speaker 1: was accurate and he was a complete opposite this season.
Speaker 1: So they've got to fix at least one of their
Speaker 1: guard positions. They can move off of Shack Mason, I
Speaker 1: think pretty easily. Patterson is a backup center. Go fix
Speaker 1: that stuff. Take the best interior alignment with your first pick.
Speaker 1: I heard the center position is actually fairly deep this year.
Speaker 1: You want to go take that somewhere down the line,
Speaker 1: Go get a good center. Figure out. But you need
Speaker 1: him to get back to where he was as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and I think part of it starts with the interior
Speaker 1: of that offensive line is just making him feel comfortable
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Yet again, I know some people say,
Speaker 1: because Diggs is going to move on and Tank Dell
Speaker 1: is coming off another massive injury, that you'd want to
Speaker 1: go wide receiver. Well fine, I'll find somebody in the
Speaker 1: second or third round.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: My biggest mistle signing for the Texans is at this
Speaker 3: point next year or no, not even this point next year.
Speaker 3: Convince me at some point next year to stop calling
Speaker 3: you the Houston the Houston third and long Texans, because
Speaker 3: every you just look up every third down, third and
Speaker 3: eight third and nine third and twelve third and this
Speaker 3: third and that. Every time you look up at the
Speaker 3: TV screen, they're in third down, and it's a third
Speaker 3: down situation that quarterbacks don't like. So get that nickname out.
Speaker 1: All right, panic, your last one's the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Oh, the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Is it this simple? Is it this simple?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go simple, change the running back.
Speaker 3: Here are the Ravens wide receivers on their roster right now,
Speaker 3: Zay Flowers for Sean Baton, Devontes Walker.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Those are the three. Agalar is an impending free agent.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is an impending free agent on that team.
Speaker 3: I finally want Lamar Jackson to get somewhat of a
Speaker 3: legitimate outside wide receivers. Hey Flowers took a step up
Speaker 3: this year. Increase the archs per reception, say Flowers, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he has outside inside versatility. I want more of a bigger, bodied,
Speaker 3: more conventional wide receiver one for Lamar Jackson. Now, he's
Speaker 3: always been a guy that doesn't need it. He operates
Speaker 3: like he doesn't need it. But let's just see what
Speaker 3: happens when Lamar Jackson is throwing the ball to more
Speaker 3: of a bona fide number one stud go out and
Speaker 3: trade for Tyreek Hill. Now they would never do that.
Speaker 1: Never, Yeah, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3: That's my wish list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, they just they just have to play
Speaker 1: a little bit better a little I mean Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: catch the ball, right, Yeah, all these teams that are
Speaker 1: so good, it's like, what's their wish list.
Speaker 2: Next to Roquan How about that? That's my wish list
Speaker 2: for the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, great, I mean, like any little thing with
Speaker 1: teams that are this good and they have good coaching
Speaker 1: and great organizational stability, it's just ridiculous. Which takes us
Speaker 1: to the team that got embarrassed in Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 1: Bobby Skinner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got to increase the payouts of the refs.
Speaker 2: No on, fix your offensive tackle spot, create an actual
Speaker 2: good run running game that isn't just efficient whereas high
Speaker 2: in a success rate, but you're low in yardage and
Speaker 2: become more explosive, and I think both of those things
Speaker 2: help you become more explosive. Get back to it. Let's
Speaker 2: have some more fun, right. You know what was fun
Speaker 2: watching e Xavier Worthy split two dbs. I know they
Speaker 2: were backups, but you got the speed. Fix the offensive
Speaker 2: tackle spot, create again, create an actual good run game,
Speaker 2: and guess what, the explosives will start to happen again.
Speaker 2: Become the fun. Kansas City chiefs offense. The old the
Speaker 2: old me, the you know, the the old me that
Speaker 2: I don't recognize anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think there's no question that they're
Speaker 1: Their term could be maga make offense great again?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's the show.
Speaker 2: Have another similar term I saw on on Twitter too.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, we're just having fun, all right. We are
Speaker 1: back at it again early next week. You know, we're
Speaker 1: just a few weeks away from the combine, and then
Speaker 1: a few weeks after that it's the start of the
Speaker 1: league year and free agency, and then after that it's
Speaker 1: about five weeks till the draft. So it just a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff happening. The off season is a ton
Speaker 1: of fun, Bobby, When when do you shut it down?
Speaker 1: And for the nuptials?
Speaker 2: Uh, next week? You won't see him in the show
Speaker 2: for about a week and a half.
Speaker 1: Actually, wait a second, what what? What? What? When is this?
Speaker 2: I'm out next week and then the wedding is on Sunday,
Speaker 2: and then I'll be out the midweek and they'll be
Speaker 2: back the end of that next week.
Speaker 1: Holy smoke. So you're getting married a week from Sunday?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is that is that is in fact true.
Speaker 2: Is just be up here or down here, excuse me,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a grand old time.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well I'm not home right now, so
Speaker 1: I won't run out to the mailbox to check for
Speaker 1: the invitation. Could you send an e invite? Um?
Speaker 3: You know you did old No, you did old No,
Speaker 3: you did old school. I got mine in the mail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to do old school when it comes
Speaker 1: to the wedding guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was weird, Like people that live down the
Speaker 2: street from me somehow didn't get it in the mail,
Speaker 2: and then the people in New Jersey did get it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell is going on with
Speaker 2: the United States Postal.
Speaker 1: Service literally down the street from you, yes, yes, like
Speaker 1: walking distance.
Speaker 3: Well you're not what save the state.
Speaker 2: It is people that live down the street. I hand
Speaker 2: delivered it to those people. But I'm talking about people
Speaker 2: that like live you know, ten minutes away.
Speaker 3: From around town.
Speaker 1: Still should have driven them. That's what you should have done.
Speaker 1: You should have driven the invitation over people like to
Speaker 1: get them in the mail. Those invitations can get heavy.
Speaker 1: Then put old stamps that like are a penny on
Speaker 1: there so that way makes them feel good. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: There you go would have saved you some money. Wedding
Speaker 1: planner Chris Rows, all right, well in that case, congratulations
Speaker 1: to you and your bride a little bit early. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Then you can't wait. We can't wait to have you
Speaker 1: back here, and we're gonna find out not everything, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out a lot of stuff about how
Speaker 1: it all went down. How many people are coming to
Speaker 1: this thing.
Speaker 2: One hundred people, and then we'll be live streaming it
Speaker 2: on the Talking Giants channel. I'll be brought to you
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Speaker 2: So let me let me let me run this by
Speaker 2: you first. So I'm thinking, because you know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do like a not a speech, but like a
Speaker 2: thank you at the end. Yeah, and I'll think now,
Speaker 2: not everyone most actually basically no one there listens to me, right,
Speaker 2: it's it's justin and then a handful of other people
Speaker 2: who actually like listen to what I do. I'm thinking
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think people get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's not that funny either, So it's just not
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Speaker 1: And just remember that part of the speech. Your speech
Speaker 1: should be a couple of lines. We want to thank
Speaker 1: you very much. We love having everybody here and very
Speaker 1: special to all of us. You know the whole bit,
Speaker 1: don't but I will give you this. You want one
Speaker 1: word of advice about about the wedding day? Yeah, seriously, Okay,
Speaker 1: don't blink your your fiance's name again.
Speaker 2: Isabelle.
Speaker 1: Isabelle, you two while the party's going on.
Speaker 2: She just said, what when I said that, By the way, just.
Speaker 1: Walk away for like four minutes. Go just look over everything,
Speaker 1: just take take take a mental snap shot, Take a
Speaker 1: mental snapshot of what is happening. You'll want to have one,
Speaker 1: one photograph in your brain to have of the whole
Speaker 1: festivities and everything. You'll have plenty of actual photographs, but
Speaker 1: just have one in your mind that one's just for
Speaker 1: the two of you.
Speaker 2: And then one day we'll take that photograph and we'll
Speaker 2: put it in the Airbnb and somebody will steal it.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: That's an episode.
Speaker 1: For producer Connor, for Justin Pennock, for the soon to
Speaker 1: be married Bobby Skinner. I am Chris Rose. We will
Speaker 1: see you next week, at least most of you will,
Speaker 1: and most of us will here on Football Today, presenting
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