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Speaker 4: If you will, Kyler Murray, it's official, inks a one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, No, you're exactly right. This is the reason

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Speaker 1: Jerry Paula, are you ready for my hot take? This

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Speaker 1: That's Pauli. The Arizona Cardinals are going to be an

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Speaker 4: And you know what, Not only do I like that,

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Speaker 1: they have them listed at six two, three hundred and

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Speaker 1: twelve pounds. I love that because you know, there's no

436
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,479
Speaker 1: way Roy is six to and Roy, you know, I

437
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: love you. There's no way he's six to and yet

438
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: at the same time twelve he wishes he was three

439
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: hundred twelve. Bous. This is a guy that can line

440
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: up on the interior, talking about over the head of

441
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: the center, of course, maybe even in a three technique

442
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: or anywhere in between. He can line up and he

443
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: can hold the point. And he is a dog. This

444
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: is a guy that has the mentality that the Arizona

445
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: Cardinals are looking for. And I love the fact that

446
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: he plays the game the way that it should be played.

447
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: Look, well, when he wears the black cowboy hat like

448
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: he was this week, he's six to two okay with

449
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: a black cowboy hat.

450
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: I miss that. Paul's right, all right?

451
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 4: So he gets a two year deal, reportedly eleven and

452
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 4: a half million, seven million guaranteed. We asked him how

453
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 4: he ended up in Detroit because and I said, you know,

454
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: I have a theory. In twenty twenty four, Week four,

455
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 4: the Cardinals play the Lions. You bawled out, and he said, yep,

456
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 4: the coaches and the GM saw me and then they

457
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: brought me in last year in a free agent deal

458
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: to the Lions. But now he is coming home. In fact,

459
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 4: that that is where we started our conversation on the

460
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: Cardinals cover too. Sit down yours truly and Craig.

461
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 6: Grilo coming back home because this is home for you.

462
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 6: What has been the last two three four days been.

463
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: Like for you? Yeah, it was.

464
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 7: Once the news came out, it was and we made

465
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 7: the decision, it was something that it was beautiful. And

466
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 7: then to be able to call everybody and everybody's pumped.

467
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 7: You was screaming through the phone, you know, and we're back, man, and.

468
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: It was it was so cool. It's so cool to.

469
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 7: Be in the moment and uh, you know, it's it's

470
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 7: it's beautiful to feel the love through the phone and

471
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 7: everybody's saying congratulations and welcome home. And I don't take

472
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 7: it for granted, man, I don't take it for granted

473
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 7: at all. And uh, I'm excited to be here.

474
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 4: I envisioned like, you know, like a draft night, you know,

475
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: the player, the college kid gets the call and I

476
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 4: think the whole whole house goes nuts. You know that

477
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: That's some envisioning when you when you re signed with

478
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: the Cardinals.

479
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 7: Right, it was something like that for sure. And then

480
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 7: it was it was like a hard crash, uh a

481
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 7: little later and because I was like, oh I got

482
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 7: it a little bed right, like because because you know,

483
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 7: like I said, my lady seven months, right, so now

484
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 7: we're on the same sleep schedule, right, and so we're

485
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 7: eight thirties. She's kind of giving me that look like okay,

486
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 7: let's take a shower, let's get ready for bed.

487
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: Right.

488
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 7: So it was one of those things where news came

489
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 7: out and I'm like screaming, laughing, having a good time.

490
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: It's time to go.

491
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 7: And then the next day it kind of hit us like, oh,

492
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 7: we're home, right, this is it's amazing.

493
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 6: A career high in both sacks and quarterback hits. Lessons

494
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 6: learned from your time in Detroit or how much of

495
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 6: a different better player are you from the last time

496
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 6: we saw you?

497
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I learned a lot. It was awesome.

498
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 7: It was my mental and preparation and routines and growing

499
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 7: as a man and learning how to you know, take

500
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 7: advantage of your opportunities and see formations and see certain things.

501
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 7: And so when you're in your stance, you're prepping for

502
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 7: what's about to happen. You see things before they happen.

503
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 7: And it took credit to that room that I was

504
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 7: in out there, and the coaches as well. And I

505
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 7: got to learn a lot, you know, with those with

506
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 7: those guys and and see a different side of the game.

507
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 7: And and uh, it was awesome, you know, to be

508
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 7: able to bring that with me and in my career

509
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 7: and my mental and uh, you know, one day to

510
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 7: get into coaching and kind of bring all these worlds

511
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 7: that I've in, different schemes and different the way you

512
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 7: get the message across and all that stuff right, to

513
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 7: be able to bring them into my world and to

514
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 7: continue my career and then eventually into my coaching career,

515
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 7: I'm truly blessed and and and it's been amazing what

516
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 7: I've learned in a year.

517
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: I've half joked that you should wear the number two

518
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: because you take on double teams so much, you know,

519
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's still your job description a lot of ways,

520
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: isn't it.

521
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean as a D line

522
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 7: and that's it's it's it's uh, it's what you asked for, right,

523
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 7: it's what you sign up for, and uh, some more

524
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 7: than others. But it's fun.

525
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: It's fun. I love it.

526
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Speaker 7: I love I love the double teams. I love you know,

527
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 7: anchoring in there, and you gotta love it in order

528
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 7: to play play the position. You gotta love the little things, man,

529
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 7: and you gotta love the grind. You gotta love just

530
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 7: being able to just you know, nobody, nobody really cares

531
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 7: until it's not good, right, and so nobody really cares,

532
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 7: and you gotta find you gotta look at yourself like that

533
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 7: was nice, right, that was nice even though it's just

534
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 7: a double team and you didn't really do much besides

535
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 7: just take the double right, but in your eyes are like,

536
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 7: oh that was dog play was right, just kind of

537
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 7: you know, self talking and self love.

538
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: There you go.

539
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: Roy Lopez joined us on the Cardinals cover two sit down,

540
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: and you know, I think the underrated part of this division,

541
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: Wolf is everybody runs the football, I mean the rams

542
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: for everything they get.

543
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: Through the air.

544
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: Kyron Williams and blakekorm combined for nearly two thousand yards rushing.

545
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's run scheme is always top ten in the league.

546
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 4: The Seahawks are hell bent on running the ball. They

547
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: did that last year with their one two punch at

548
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: running back. So just having that guy in Roy Lopez

549
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: on the nose, that's critical and then will fit zoom

550
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: out the rest of that D line room.

551
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: I me.

552
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: You know, this, to me is maybe the biggest question

553
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: on the team. Can you when Walter Nolan the third

554
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: was healthy, I mean, he was unstoppable. The only thing

555
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: that stopped him was injury. Daris Robinson his final three

556
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: games put up a lot of numbers in the box score,

557
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 4: something he hadn't been doing. But he finished with a

558
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: flourish You get LJ. Collier back, Dante Stills, you know,

559
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 4: probably another body or two, maybe even a draft pick

560
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: in there. But to me, that's the critical part of

561
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: this defense is that defensive front, the interior D line.

562
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me just say this as well, come home, son,

563
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: It's time to come home. Yeah. I mean, this is

564
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: the greatest story because Roy Lopez, this is it's time

565
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: for him to come home. And he is coming home.

566
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: I love that. Having said that, you know what I

567
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: love about this is this team, the Arizona Cardinals. They

568
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: know exactly what they're getting in Roy Lopez. They know

569
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: exactly Paul what they're getting, and yet they pursued him

570
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: to a point where he's making almost twelve million dollars

571
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: on a two year deal. This They know exactly what

572
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: they're getting in Roy Lopez, and I love that. You

573
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: know what you're getting as a player and you know

574
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: what you're getting as a man as well. That is huge.

575
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: And I also love the fact that he's talking about coaching.

576
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: He wants to coach Paul when he's done. That just

577
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: tells you the kind of the kind of understanding he

578
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: has of the defense that he's in and wanting to

579
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: understand not only what he does and why he does it,

580
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: but what everyone else is doing off of that as well.

581
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: You have a guy like that in the middle who

582
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: can actually help a linebacker out in certain situations and

583
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: let him know what is going on because he understands schemes. Man,

584
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: That's that's huge, especially in Rundown.

585
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a plan and it's in his fan.

586
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: His uncle, his father, have all coached, so that that's

587
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: where he's going when he's done playing, no doubt about that.

588
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: Cardinals went out and signed a veteran free agent in

589
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: the D line room, Jonah Williams. No, not the right

590
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: tackle the last couple of years. The D lineman six

591
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: five to ninety a one year deal. He's a five

592
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: year vet age thirty. Played in fifteen games last year,

593
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: so there's that. Cardinals then did not resign Jalen Thompson.

594
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: Jalen Thompson leaves, so now all of a sudden they

595
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: bring in Jacksonville safety. You saw him last year. He

596
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: kind of looks like a minnie Dennis Gardak Andrew Wingard.

597
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: He's six foot two hundred and uh aged twenty nine.

598
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: He gets a one year deal after seven years with

599
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: Jacksonville as a he'll join Rabbit and obviously butt a Baker.

600
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauli, and you know Andrew Wingard as well. Hey,

601
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: this is a guy that is more of a box safety, Paully.

602
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: He's a guy that is going to really play well

603
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: in the box for the most part. But never forget

604
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: he is all so a great special teams player. Oh

605
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: something near and dear to me once again, A great

606
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: teams player, and I love the fact that they went

607
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: out and targeted him as well and brought him in.

608
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I like a lot of the signings that are out

609
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: there Isaac Samalo. Of course we've already talked a little

610
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: bit about that. Tyler l Jeer, no doubt about a

611
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne. I like that one, and Elijah Wilkinson. That

612
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: to me is one of the signings under the radar. Palli,

613
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: no doubt.

614
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: They even have a brand new long snapper, by the way,

615
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: in case you're wondering, because yeah, right, Brew had been

616
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: around for many years. So Casey Kreiter comes over from

617
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: the Giants, ostensibly following his new special teams coordinator, Michael

618
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: Gobriel Gobi as they call him. He's a veteran guy

619
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: thirty five years of age, which actually look wolf. I mean,

620
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: if you don't have a reliable, I proven long snapper,

621
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: life can be very rough. So well, I think we're

622
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: all thankful somebody who's been doing it for a long

623
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: time at a high level.

624
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: And Paulie Ilsole like the fact Blake Gilligan and Chad

625
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Ryland you're bringing these guys back. I think these guys

626
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: are quality punter and kicker respectively. And then there are

627
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: three guys that are also retaining. James Connor We've already

628
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: talked about, but that to me is the biggest Are

629
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: you kidding me? James Connor and the intangible impact that

630
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: he's going to have on this football team. Of course,

631
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: he's got to get healthy and ready to play, but

632
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: the combination of James Connor and Tyler Elgier that is awesome.

633
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I also like LJ. Collier being re signed Paulie, especially

634
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: at the price you got him. Now, he's got to

635
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: stay healthy. But if this guy stays healthy, they're gonna

636
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: get a steal at two point five. And then Starling Thomas,

637
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: paul breaking back, Starling Thomas. I love that this guy.

638
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: Injury derailed him last year, as we all know. But

639
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: this is a guy that I expected a big year

640
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: out of last year until he got hurt.

641
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: You know a lot of people might have been surprised

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: about Sean Murphy bunting. Yeah, here's my theory on that.

643
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: Garrett Williams, what's his status one of the top slot

644
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: corners in the league. Well, Sean Murphy Bunting. His best

645
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: year in the NFL was the Super Bowl year he

646
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: was with Tampa and what did he play inside? He

647
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: played the slot. He played nickel corner. So if nothing else,

648
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: I think SMB is gonna be the guy to beat

649
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: at nickel corner, replacing Garrett Williams until he's healthy.

650
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Speaker 1: We'll see yep.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Terrell Austin comes in as a

652
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Speaker 4: three time defensive coordinator and he's been with coach Tomlin

653
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Speaker 4: since twenty nineteen. He comes in as a senior defensive assistant.

654
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: Something tells me all those years, all that knowledge will

655
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: prove very helpful to Nick Rolis and that Cardinals defense

656
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Speaker 4: as he rejoins the Cardinals. Learn more about Cardinals ticket

657
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Speaker 4: options for all the infogo a to Asycardinals dot com

658
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Speaker 4: slash tickets all right, way do you meet the energy

659
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Speaker 4: of Kendrick Bourne? That is next on the Big Red

660
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Speaker 4: Rage presented by Emergency Air. Who has more skills? Kendrick

661
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: Bourne or Jason Bourne? I looked it up. There there

662
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Speaker 4: are five films? Have you seen on five films?

663
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Speaker 8: I might have seen three, Okay, I got I gotta.

664
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Speaker 8: I don't know what I'm missing, so I haven't watched

665
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Speaker 8: them in like in order.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like randomly so even the last name compared

667
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: didn't compel you to watch all five.

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Speaker 8: Busy Okay, I need to though, I need to.

669
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, Matt Damon's old. He's like almost as

670
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: old as me. So, I mean, you know, they need

671
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Speaker 4: a new born.

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Speaker 8: Before I came out here, I went to NFL Entertainment

673
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 8: Summit and went to Hollywood and I was acting bro

674
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Speaker 8: And I was like, it was the toughest thing I've

675
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 8: kind of ever done. It took like real work. So

676
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 8: thinking about.

677
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Speaker 1: Him, like he might have more skills.

678
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Speaker 8: He might have more skills because that acting stuff like

679
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 8: football is easy. I can go out there is what

680
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 8: I do. Acting you have to like turn it on.

681
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 8: So but he got some skills. But I'm very talented too,

682
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 8: so I want to do it on myself.

683
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Speaker 4: Come on, it's not Matt Damon. It's the stunt double anyway,

684
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: So you know, don't underestimate yourself. Kendrick Bourne. Part of

685
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 4: our conversation from the cover to sit Down, You're truly

686
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 4: Craig Rilu and the effervescent and energetic Kendrick Bourne. Ron

687
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: Wolfley here in the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air.

688
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: I mean he's got a million dollar smile. He's on

689
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: board two years, reportedly ten million, with a max value

690
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: of twelve million, and so here he is. He's going

691
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: to be in its tenth season. After an undrafted rookie

692
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: out of Eastern Washington. He played all four years in

693
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: college with Cooper Cup. The two of them pushed each

694
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: other at Eastern Washington. He came into the league with

695
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: Mike Lafleur as his position coach with the forty nine

696
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 4: ers back twenty seventeen through twenty twenty, then went to

697
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Speaker 4: New England. But he's back with coach Lafleur.

698
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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope Kendrick Bourne is going to stand out

699
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: because Jason Bourne, remember his faceball, he could fit in anywhere.

700
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Speaker 1: That's the born identity he could do that. Hopefully, Kendrick

701
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: Bourne is going to stick out a little bit more.

702
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: And for me, when I'm talking about eleven personnel, I

703
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: think of the three wide receivers I'm most likely are

704
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: going to be on the field, and Marvin Harrison junior

705
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: of course, Michael Wilson and Kendrick Bourne. The one thing

706
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: about this, Kendrick Bourne's got a little size to him.

707
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson's got a little size to him. Marvin Harrison

708
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Junior's got a little size to him as well. In

709
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: eleven personnel, and all three of these guys I've seen

710
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: block and be willing blockers in rundown situation. Don't just

711
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: overlook that as well, PAULI.

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting is Kendrick told us that after

713
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: the second forty nine Ers game this season, when Michael

714
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: Wilson went off right in the absence of Marvin Harrison

715
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 4: Junior had fifteen catches and eighteen targets over two hundred

716
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 4: yards receiving. Kendrick said he went up to him after

717
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: the game and said, you don't know me, I don't

718
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 4: even know who you are, but you're a baller, and

719
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: he said, and I introduced myself to Michael Wilson. That's

720
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Speaker 4: what Kendrick told us. So that's really interesting. And he

721
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: said he's been watching Marvin Rrison Junior since his days

722
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Speaker 4: at Ohio State. He also has a real appreciation for

723
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Speaker 4: Trey McBride, not only watching him twice a year, but

724
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Speaker 4: knowing what a Pro Bowl tight end does for receivers.

725
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 4: We talked about that because he's at George Kittle right

726
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: over the years as well. So that's that's very valuable.

727
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: But Wolfe, I mean when you talk about a Mike

728
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: Lafleur and what his scheme might because I think one

729
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: of the keys of bringing in Kendrick Bourne, his knowledge

730
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: of Lafloor and the schemes and the burbage might be

731
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: a little different. But you know, in terms of navigating

732
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: the learning curve, Borne's going to fit right in right away.

733
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Speaker 4: And then in terms of what you might anticipate the

734
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: identity the DNA of this Cardinals offense. Do you have

735
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: a gut feel at all with coach.

736
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Speaker 1: Laflor Yeah, you know, I think that I do, Pauly.

737
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Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, Man, the one thing about

738
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: a Sean McVay coach, and that's who Mike Laflour is

739
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: a Sean McVay coach, is he's going to a apt

740
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: to the talent that he actually has. I think right

741
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: now they're thinking about what kind of offense they're going

742
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: to have, Polly, but they don't really know what kind

743
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: of offense they're gonna have. I think you have to

744
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: see how Michael Wilson continues to develop. You have to

745
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: see Marvin Harrison Junior and how much more he could

746
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Speaker 1: possibly grow Trey McBride and the incredible force of nature

747
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: that he is that with again a brand new offensive

748
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: line that has rebuilt. I think it's a work in progress.

749
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Speaker 1: They have an idea as to what type of player

750
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: they want, they just don't know exactly what kind of

751
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: offense it's going to produce. But I will tell you

752
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: that Mike Lafleur is going to be open minded. He's

753
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: not going to be dogmatic about it.

754
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: And it's interesting, he said at the combine to our

755
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: Danny Surrek. They've been installing things, they're getting the playbook ready,

756
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: so when they finally have an opportunity to meet with

757
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: the players, they're going to start and it's going to

758
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: be it's going to be on and getting this offense

759
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: going for the Cardinals. Now, of course, it all starts

760
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: with the quarterback. And although there were reports earlier in

761
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: the week that talks between the Cardinals and Jimmy g

762
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: Quote hit a snag, prompting the Cardinals to pivot to

763
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Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew. That was one NFL report.

764
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Speaker 1: He gets a.

765
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: One year, nearly six million dollar deal, ability to make

766
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: up to eight million with incentives. You're talking about a

767
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: guy who's in the same draft class as Kyler Murray

768
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen round six pick out of Washington State. But

769
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: you're also talking about a guy who started plenty of

770
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: games in this league. Wolf, So if needed Gardner Minshew

771
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: in a pinch, he's been there and done that, including

772
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three when he made the Pro Bowl it

773
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: almost led the Colts to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, it's really really interesting, man. I mean, what

775
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: is going to happen here? I think signing Gardner Minshew

776
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: at Jacoby Precid it sounds like Jacoby Pressade is going

777
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: to be the starter going forward, Gardner Minshew is going

778
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: to be the back. But you got two veteran guys,

779
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: two veteran backup quarterbacks in the National Football League, which

780
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Speaker 1: makes me think immediately this could be a bridge This

781
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: could be a bridge year coming up, Paul. But it

782
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean the Arizona Cardinals may not take a flyer

783
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: on a quarterback that they really really like. Maybe in

784
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: the fourth round, PAULI seriously, maybe in the fifth. Maybe

785
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's got raw materials and yet you

786
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: don't want him to actually have to play for you.

787
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: If he doesn't have to play. If he could sit

788
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: for a year, maybe he could learn from these two

789
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: veteran guys, and then maybe Pauli, that also would just

790
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: get you to twenty twenty seven and some of the

791
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are coming out next year.

792
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Speaker 4: So well for you coming? Are you coming around to

793
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: my theory that we talked about two weeks ago? I

794
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: believe where maybe like oh, I don't know, a Carson

795
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: Beck is sitting there maybe in round three.

796
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: Or four, maybe h Paul Fire. So you'd be on

797
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: board with that, Pauli. I think I would be on

798
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: board with that. Provided you took Francis Mawinoa in the

799
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: first round and then Emmanuel Pregnant in the second.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, okay, that's good right after you take the

801
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: edge rusher though, So uh, here's here's what we do know.

802
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: You get an all time personality in Kendrick Bourne. We

803
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: heard that, and then Gardner Minshew. If you followed Gardner Minshew, oh,

804
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: he's got quite the following around the league. He was

805
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: with the Raiders here recently and he was on a

806
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: podcast with Max Crosby called The Rush, and the two

807
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: of them were chopping it up, Gardner Minshew providing insight

808
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: on how he's been, uh, living in.

809
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: A van and a bus.

810
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 9: I lived in a bus at one point, and then

811
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 9: I lived in a van.

812
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: Okay, let's up with that, dude.

813
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 9: So honestly, when I was in high school, somebody told

814
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 9: me that they had an opportunity to buy a short

815
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 9: bus for one hundred dollars, and that just got my wheelspan, Like, bro,

816
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 9: for one hundred dollars, you could put a couch in there.

817
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 9: You can put whatever you want it around everywhere. It's

818
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 9: been a dream of mine for a long time.

819
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: And then I had the.

820
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 9: Opportunity on gov deals dot com to buy a used

821
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 9: prison bus two thousand and two Chevy Express, just a beautiful,

822
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 9: beautiful vehicle.

823
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: And I was able to.

824
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 9: Turn it this guy named Larry in his driveway and

825
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 9: men in a Mississippi. He built it out for me

826
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 9: and it was awesome.

827
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: Man.

828
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 9: I lived in that for a little while, and now

829
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 9: I got a van. It's not forever van, you know.

830
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: This forever Paul.

831
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I'm not sure I've ever heard the

832
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: words used prison bus or forever van in the same sentence,

833
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: the same explanation, because I have two more words, dude,

834
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: factor which I've been used in a long time, which

835
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm going to apply to Gardner Minshew.

836
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: Well, Paul, first of all, the reason why he's got

837
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: to buy a prison boss or a used prison boss

838
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: or even a van is sold out his head, which

839
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: is massive, and actually get inside of it. I mean,

840
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: this guy's brain, loan, Paul, Gardner, Mitch's brain is the

841
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: size of three basketballs. It's just absolutely huge. And it's

842
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of cool that this kind of personality with Kendrick Bourne,

843
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: as you already pointed out, it's coming into the locker

844
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: room of the Arizona Cardinals. Oh my goodness.

845
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you're right, because a used prison bus does

846
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: not have a c so you had to open up

847
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: the windows to get ventilation. And then you let that

848
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 4: glorious hair right that let us, You got to let

849
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: that fly in the wind. And so yeah, I mean

850
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: we're all going to want to live vicariously through Gardner

851
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: Minshew by the end of this season. There's no doubt

852
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: about that. I mean, look, when you talk about his experience, though,

853
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if you have to put him into a game,

854
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: here's a guy who in twenty twenty three nearly led

855
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: the Colts to the playoffs, right, I mean, this guy

856
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: has been in in money moments, and so in terms

857
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: of a backup, you always say, Okay, the rest of

858
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: the ten guys in the huddle, they want to have

859
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: trust and the guy who comes in off the bench.

860
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: That's right, Pauly. I mean there are two times when

861
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: your head will snap up in the huddle. When a legend,

862
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback who steps in to call the play steps

863
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Speaker 1: in there, your head's gonna snap up. And when the

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is going to step into that huddle and

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Speaker 1: he's going to be as common, confident, and collected as

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Speaker 1: is not something he has not experienced before in his career.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. I think it's great, and I

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Speaker 1: also think it allows the Arizona Cardinals once again to

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Speaker 1: take a flyer, take a shot on a guy, as

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Speaker 1: you said, maybe a Carson back. Polly.

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Speaker 4: Look, this division is loaded. You have a Seahawks team

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Speaker 4: that will be defending its Super Bowl title. You got

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Speaker 4: a Rams team that feel like it should have beat

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks twice and shouldn't be the Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 4: You have a Niners team that just signed Mike Evans.

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Speaker 4: Mike Evans said to the media the Niners were one

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Speaker 4: piece away. I feel like I'm that piece, so it

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Speaker 4: is more competitive than ever in the division. Special thanks

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Speaker 4: jim O, Mahunter, Cody Fincher, Lawrence Ellis, Ron woefully On,

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Speaker 4: Paul kelvc. This has been the Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 4: by Emergency Air.

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Speaker 1: Shaw.

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Speaker 2: Emergency Air. The difference is we care Harrison dies for.

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Speaker 1: The m zone. He's in touchdown.

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